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evolin
05-09-2008, 10:36 AM
Since the Obama supporters are putting emphases on the low educated working class supporting HRC, would those here mind stating their level of education? as we are all Clinton supporters!

For the record I do NOT believe intelligence and good decisions are necessarily related to advanced education.

For the record also i am a registered nurse....retired

Ev

xfiles
05-09-2008, 10:38 AM
Masters Degree in Business Education

Sandy in PA
05-09-2008, 10:42 AM
I have a Bachelor's in History.

pearson
05-09-2008, 10:43 AM
PhD Mathematics

Optixmom
05-09-2008, 10:44 AM
Bachelors and Masters in Optics (Applied Science)

PAangelRN
05-09-2008, 10:44 AM
Level 1 Trauma / Emergency Room Nurse

Charlie Brown
05-09-2008, 10:46 AM
I have a high school Education...Im a stay at home mom with children of special needs and next year I'll be home teaching my 11 year old daughter..Because Our school wont help her with the areas she struggles in and she needs one on one tutoring...a choice that wasnt easy to make..I remember a time not to far back when a SAHM (stay at home mom) was a good thing...Now since this election I am considered dirt because I have only a high school education.....How sad! The Clintons always supported a SAHM...But Bush doesnt because he cut's about every program for schools and BO wants some charter school deal that worries me...What exactually will be going on in them schools??? with his past I shutter at the thought!

I just find it offensive that I am judged or considered stupid because I dont have a college degree...Maybe my vote is less then a college educated vote...Just more label's in this election I can do without...

movingtous
05-09-2008, 10:53 AM
B.A. in French
1990 Fulbright Scholar
Former president of Pi Delta Phi, French Honor Society
Need more credentials? I've got more, but then we'd be bragging!

joeysky18
05-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Economics, BSc. MBA Finance. Certified Financial Advisor.

EH
05-09-2008, 10:59 AM
Degree in Foreign Languages and Linguistics; undecided whether to persue a Masters in Classical Letters or Translation & Interpretation.

Phoenix
05-09-2008, 11:00 AM
BS and Masters in Computer Science

beetlejuiceonline
05-09-2008, 11:03 AM
I have 2 degrees. BA in History and BSC in Computer Science.

My friends are all similarly college-educated and, in my experience, are all very naive about politics. They are taken in by Obama, simply because he SAYS he is a "new kind of politician". Despite their education, they fail to look beyond his claims and fail to see his lies, his racism and his corrupt brand of politics.

supra5677
05-09-2008, 11:04 AM
bachelors degree in political science minor in woman's studies
teaching credential
working on administrative credential

movingtous
05-09-2008, 11:04 AM
Degree in Foreign Languages and Linguistics; undecided whether to persue a Masters in Classical Letters or Translation & Interpretation.

I'd go with Translation and Interpretation, then move to Paris, France. You'll never be unemployed, and will actually earn your worth!:D:D I did!

Optixmom
05-09-2008, 11:05 AM
I have a high school Education...Im a stay at home mom with children of special needs and next year I'll be home teaching my 11 year old daughter..Because Our school wont help her with the areas she struggles in and she needs one on one tutoring...a choice that wasnt easy to make..I remember a time not to far back when a SAHM (stay at home mom) was a good thing...Now since this election I am considered dirt because I have only a high school education.....How sad! The Clintons always supported a SAHM...But Bush doesnt because he cut's about every program for schools and BO wants some charter school deal that worries me...What exactually will be going on in them schools??? with his past I shutter at the thought!

I just find it offensive that I am judged or considered stupid because I dont have a college degree...Maybe my vote is less then a college educated vote...Just more label's in this election I can do without...

I have the utmost respect for SAH parents. Home schooling, too? You are amazing! Never ever let anyone make you feel less about yourself. My Mom stopped after high school also, was a SAHM until I was in 3rd grade and then got her real estate license and became hugely successful and owned her own Century 21 franchise. Grades and schooling should never define a person. Everyone has gifts and something positive to offer society. You are the CEO of your family, Principal, and Teacher of the Year...and that is a pretty impressive resume to me!

Frances
05-09-2008, 11:06 AM
Masters in Public Administration

Dendy
05-09-2008, 11:07 AM
I'm an artist (painter)
2 times B.A.of arts
1.-from Holland
2.-from US

Cooney
05-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Masters in Nursing, and Family Nurse Practitioner

AdrienneJ
05-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Undergraduate degree in Liberal Studies, J.D. (law degree).

However, this is really unimportant. This is Obama's game to separate people by arbitrary lines.

Having an alphabet behind your name doesn't make you any smarter, or any more anything.

I hope people who have put their time into different kinds of life experience will share on this thread.

I'm sharing because I think it's fun when we all talk together about our lives.

It's a nice break to the hard work we do for our candidate.

movingtous
05-09-2008, 11:11 AM
I have the utmost respect for SAH parents. Home schooling, too? You are amazing! Never ever let anyone make you feel less about yourself. My Mom stopped after high school also, was a SAHM until I was in 3rd grade and then got her real estate license and became hugely successful and owned her own Century 21 franchise. Grades and schooling should never define a person. Everyone has gifts and something positive to offer society. You are the CEO of your family, Principal, and Teacher of the Year...and that is a pretty impressive resume to me!

I second that. Spelling bee winners tend to be home schooled children, so I guess they're doing something right!

jgilmore
05-09-2008, 11:13 AM
M.A. History
B.A. Journalism
B.A. Christian Studies
teaching certificate

EH
05-09-2008, 11:16 AM
I'd go with Translation and Interpretation, then move to Paris, France. You'll never be unemployed, and will actually earn your worth!:D:D I did!

Fortunately I can say that even with a B.A. I've lots of work as a translator!:D I was considering this Masters to perfect my interpreting skills.

superradmom
05-09-2008, 11:17 AM
bachelor's degree in music!

JJ4Hillary
05-09-2008, 11:18 AM
Young Undergraduate here trying to get my first degree next year.:)

Charlie Brown
05-09-2008, 11:21 AM
I have the utmost respect for SAH parents. Home schooling, too? You are amazing! Never ever let anyone make you feel less about yourself. My Mom stopped after high school also, was a SAHM until I was in 3rd grade and then got her real estate license and became hugely successful and owned her own Century 21 franchise. Grades and schooling should never define a person. Everyone has gifts and something positive to offer society. You are the CEO of your family, Principal, and Teacher of the Year...and that is a pretty impressive resume to me!

awww thats nice...Im not sore at anyone on this forum...Its a label Bo's campaign started....Education is something no one can take from any of you and I encourage all people to get a higher education...as for the home schooling honestly I have no choice...we have gone through all channels to help our daughter but its the no child left behind...That leaves us behind...she tests right at the cusp and she cant get any help...So I have many reasons to want hillary and Ive been fighting since last August to see it happen...Good thing I didnt have a job and I could devote many hours here in Iowa. LOL! When she lost here I was just sick....

I dont feel any less of a person for not having a degree...I just want to be honest about who I am and that all votes matter...Another reason the caucuses are crap because it leaves many out...the elderly, handicaped,shift workers...

I dont claim to be the biggest asset on the forum but you guide me and I will work and do anything to help...I am learning from all of you everyday and I appreciate that so much....:o

Catherine
05-09-2008, 11:22 AM
I was the first of my cousins in a large family to graduate from college - BA French with a year in Paris (thanks to hard work, scholarships and a loan). It makes me laugh to hear about us being labeled "uneducated" - but it doesn't bother me.

I work currently as a teacher's aide in a specialized classroom - it's really satisfying and it permits me to be at home when my kids are home. My husband is a small business owner - two retail stores. His family emigrated from Italy and sent two sons to college. You'll never meet a harder working family than my husbands'. What's interesting is that his working class roots and my working class roots give us a special appreciation for the hard work of people who are trying to make it when the economy gets tough.

The media and Senator Obama can call me whatever they want. Our family is self-reliant, hard working and able to pay our bills. I don't need to throw around my educational background to feel good about myself.

What my family could use - as so many others - whether highly educated or not, is the security that comes with health insurance. I work primarily to provide the insurance for my family. If we had to pay privately, it would cost $ 20,000 per year. It is Hillary's position on mandates that will drive costs down so that it won't be such a drain on working class and middle class families.

The dirty little secret about employer paid health care is that it is disappearing - little by little with companies understandably concerned about their ability to compete with foreign goods whose cost doesn't include the cost of health care.

LJSNAustin
05-09-2008, 11:24 AM
Two Master's degrees, one in Piano Performance and the other in Computer Education and Cognitive Systems. Elementary-school teacher for 18 years.

renee
05-09-2008, 11:28 AM
MA in Foreign Languages, French, Russian, Spanish
Author French Language texts for HS students
Certified Hotel Administrator
Etc, etc, etc:)

mukunda22
05-09-2008, 11:28 AM
because you are all having fun with it, so Why Not????

BS in Nursing and Certified Nurse Practitioner (1987).

I am a Liberal/Progressive Democrat, but even if/when Hillary wins the nomination, I will be leaving the party.

Democrats have proved to me for the last time what total idiots they really are.

Bacio83
05-09-2008, 11:32 AM
My Grams didn't finish High School she went to work at 16 and she's a smart cookie. My mom didn't go to college and she makes more than my Dad who has an Associates. She does the taxes and balances the budget etc etc.

With that said I met some of the stupidest people in college, no common sense. I learned that Common sense isn't that common. I'm so excited there are other Music Majors on this thread.

I have a Bachelors in Music majoring in Vocal Performance... :) And I'm freaked out about going for a Masters...

Soren
05-09-2008, 11:35 AM
I have a high school Education...Im a stay at home mom with children of special needs ..I remember a time not to far back when a SAHM (stay at home mom) was a good thing...Now since this election I am considered dirt because I have only a high school education.....How sad! The Clintons always supported a SAHM...But Bush doesnt because he cuts about every program for schools and BO wants some charter school deal that worries me...What exactually will be going on in those schools??? with his past I shutter at the thought!
I just find it offensive that I am judged or considered stupid because I dont have a college degree...Maybe my vote is less then a college educated vote...Just more label's in this election I can do without...

Layne-Iowa: thanks for the post. you educated me in several ways. First I didn't know the SAHM word. Second, you articulate how the Clintons' policies take into account and support SAHMs. Third, you raise an interesting point about charter schools; I'd like to hear Clinton and Obama on just that issue. What could be more important than how they see the education of our children? I don't have any children, but I think that the Presidential candidates should focus on THAT ONE issue domestically and REALLY TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY ENVISION: Their strategy and their tactics and how they intend to get it through Congress, too. What will they do for the children, all the children, in fact all the children of the world. Specifically. Not generalities and not just claim they have the know how. What PLANS. What STRATEGIES. What TACTICS.

I know that :p :p Hillary would be ready ;) :) to do this tomorrow and she would weave health care into to it, for caring for their health and teaching them to care for it to needs be part of their education ... but to be fair we could give the other two candidates some time to prepare. :D Let's gently "demand" a robust statement on educating and preparing our children for an global, technological, turbulant, dynamic, challenging and exciting and love-filled tomorrow.

Say! Hillary ought to invite the fellows to a Kindergarten, sit down with them, and duke it out for the kids.

Linda C
05-09-2008, 11:38 AM
masters of science... Mental Health Nurse Practitioner

My parents have a HS education. They are intelligent and self educated people. We had more books growing up and I was exposed to many different topics as a child. Our front door was always open to anyone who wanted to come in. Growing up in a small town in PA, we had foreign students including members of the Saudi royal family for dinner. My mother would talk to them about their kings and history. They were just blown away about how much she knew about their country, history and culture.

AdrienneJ
05-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Hey just a side issue about education and what it means.


When I was in law school I went to a program at Oxford on International Human Rights Law. It was a summer program.

People/lawyers from around the world attended the program. The students from America did not have to pass any rigorous competition to be accepted to the course. Everyone else did. People from Chile, Australia, Sri Lanka- everywhere else had to go through a big deal.

One of my best friends at Oxford was a woman from Uganda. Her name is Laura. She wondered why the American students seemed to be of two types: the ones who were really respectful and thoughtful and the ones who were really superficial and unfriendly.

Guess how I'm gonna divide the American students? Yup. The ones who were thoughtful, who were there to learn because they were committed to International Human Rights and took the experience as a once-in -a-lifetime
thing would be the people who would be with us and support Hillary. The ones who were there to go pub crawling every night and play with their navels while lawyers from Chile spoke about having all of the lawyers in their law firms systematically executed by their government-- those people would be happy to be Obama supporters.

So look for those who feel deep commitment to country, to human rights, to the respect of all people-- look for those people to be our allies. The other ones-- well...

It doesn't matter how much school you have-- a good heart is a good heart.
A selfish person, is a selfish person.

mjoynaples
05-09-2008, 12:07 PM
BA Theology
MA Religious Studies
Ph.D. Clinical & Depth Psychology


100% for HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Bella
05-09-2008, 12:10 PM
BS in Criminology and minor in Sociology. Training with the U.S. Marshals Service. Went on at 23 to run an International company with a sibling and was bought out two years ago and now retired at 35.

trading wine for beer
05-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Bachelors and Master's in Social Work

not that this means ANYTHING about anyone's worth or contribution.

BO: the Divider (wolf) in a Uniter's (sheep) Clothing.:rolleyes:
Let's be fair, however... the media is the stoker of the flame.

Renee in Florida
05-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Masters Accounting

Sitting for CPA exam July 2008

Phoenix
05-09-2008, 12:34 PM
They can't teach horse sense in college. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize that Senator Clinton is the better qualified candidate.

We all know what Obama's marketing scam is trying to do to us. Clinton supporters represent people who have many differing priorities in their lives. Nobody can do it all. Some choose money, some choose career, some choose family, or friends, or time, or music/art, or health, or animals, community service, sports, or education, travel, politics, etc....and any combination of the above.

Putting people in boxes is a very old, tired marketing scam which reminds me of the old cigarette commercials ("beautiful, healthy looking models smoke cigarettes").

Fortunately, our camp fought back yesterday by labeling the little box Obama has claimed as "eggheads". Many of these "eggheads" I know are nice people; they just lack critical thinking skills and are prone to jump on bandwagons...even when it is destined to roll right over a cliff. Perhaps "lemmings" would be a better label.

Little games.

I've enjoyed learning about people's backgrounds. It just proves that we cannot be put in a little box.

tommy
05-09-2008, 12:37 PM
Getting my BS in Electrical Engineering in a few months. :D

blueskygal
05-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Bachelor's of Science in Management and MIS, summa cum laude, MIS honors award. Went back to school nights and finished my degree while working full time. received the honors award for applying mis theory to my work.

Awarded the American Express Financial Advisor "Quality of Advice Award."

I left home at 17 and was on my own. parents never game me nor my sister a dime to help out (and they both had $$ at times). first 3 months in Boston i had $5 a week to spend on food, back in 1974. i know what it is like not to have, and to have.

people do what is right for them. for me, i had to find out what i could do.

mjno7777
05-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Doctorate in Clinical Psychology

LadyLuck
05-09-2008, 12:44 PM
Bachelors Nursing

Fleur
05-09-2008, 12:45 PM
Ph.D. in Mathematics.

lorieaselin
05-09-2008, 12:46 PM
BA in Math Educ, MS Ed. in Computer Science

Layne-Iowa,

Uneducated does not mean unintelligent. Some of the smartest people I know never went to college, and some of the most stupid, idiotic, and irresponsible people I know have multiple advanced degrees.

Being a full time mother is the hardest (and most rewarding) job I have ever had, and since I am now 59, I have had a lot of jobs. Being a single/divorced mother and going to college was definitely a challenge, but the easier part was college.

"The problem with common sense is that it's not very common."

Tea toaD
05-09-2008, 12:48 PM
I only have a high school degree but all 3 of my children are college graduates. My husband and I made sure we worked doubles to ensure they had that opportunity. Never regretted one day of my life for that:) My children thank us every chance they get for sacrificing for them:D

Optixmom
05-09-2008, 12:59 PM
My Grams didn't finish High School she went to work at 16 and she's a smart cookie. My mom didn't go to college and she makes more than my Dad who has an Associates. She does the taxes and balances the budget etc etc.

With that said I met some of the stupidest people in college, no common sense. I learned that Common sense isn't that common. I'm so excited there are other Music Majors on this thread.

I have a Bachelors in Music majoring in Vocal Performance... :) And I'm freaked out about going for a Masters...

Soprano? Mezzo Soprano?

I am just as freaked out about going for my PhD in Optics. Right now, timing wise, it doesn't fit with my family schedule. I want to wait until my children are in middle school and I can leave them alone without a babysitter. I have a very solid consulting business and am the only woman who does what I do in the world. Did not get good grades in school, but have a great work ethic and have a great memory for methods (if someone shows me how to do something once...that is all I need). I also have a knack for turning around failed projects and making them successful because as a woman engineer, I always have a different perspective and solution. People like to work with me because I empower them to be able to solve a problem without me. I help companies move forward. That is why I love Hillary so much, she is always looking to solve problems with new ideas. She never sees the glass half empty...even if someone hands her a dribble glass.

ZY123
05-09-2008, 01:01 PM
BBA Accounting
Masters Degree Computer Science

Certificate Creative Writing

-If I ever get time I'd like to go for the PhD in Computer Science as well

samkm
05-09-2008, 01:03 PM
MS, MBA, a bunch of certifications.

mcgowan.swan
05-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I am fifty-nine years old. I dropped out of high school in 1965. I traveled with a vegas style road show group as a dancer/singer/musician for fifteen years. Then I came home and worked as a waitress for ten years. In 1990, I returned to college while working full time. I earned two associates degrees, one in business administration, and one in social science and humanities. Then I went to a four year college and earned a bachelors in american studies. I now work as an auditor in the hospitality industry.
My mother couldnt attend college, but she is the smartest person i know, and she taught me critical thinking. I would have been a Hillary supporter in 1965. just as i am now, because college does not teach you common sense or the ability to critically analyse things, although they think they do. if you could not think critically before college, you probably will not be able to to any great degree afterwards either, as shown by the obamabots. lemmings is a great name for them. They act just like lemmings swimming to destruction. lol the point is, educated or not, if you are here supporting Hillary, then you have all the education you need. way to go, forum!!!! But it is nice to know we have the educated here as well as the just naturally smart people. Hillary needs us all, and we, as her supporters, refuse to be put in a box and labeled. go hillary '08 :):)

OkieforHRC2008
05-09-2008, 01:10 PM
I just have a high school education, though I have taken a few college courses to help me be a better writer. I'm a happy SAHM/writer/artist who spends her spare time homeschooling her two children. So if Obama supporters want to categorize me as stupid and poor, I say go ahead, only the petty separate us like that. Besides, I married a college educated man (BFA in Broadcasting), and he was smart enough to vote for Hillary.

~~OkieforHRC2008

United we stand, divided we fall.

mkreyns
05-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Master of Science in ESL education
Bachelor of Arts in Interdisciplanary studies with a concentration in Linguistics
A.A. Gerneral Studies for lower division of B.A.
A.A. in Fashion Merchandising and Design (Am.College of Switz., now IAU)
Teacher Certification

Now I am like Layne as I have a son with learning disabilities and I had to take him out of high school because they would not support it even though it is Federal Law. NCLB has crucified the educational system and Hillary has a plan to cut it out so kids can get the education they deserve again.

LJSNAustin
05-09-2008, 01:21 PM
I only have a high school degree but all 3 of my children are college graduates. My husband and I made sure we worked doubles to ensure they had that opportunity. Never regretted one day of my life for that:) My children thank us every chance they get for sacrificing for them:D

Iam4Hillary, you brought tears to my eyes with your post. You and your husband are the kind of parents everyone should be so lucky to have. Mine were equally fabulous and I thank God for them every day. Thank you for reminding of how blessed I am.

evolin
05-09-2008, 01:51 PM
I did not bring forth this topic to cause divide among Hillary supporters but to show our diversity and strength.
None are less intelligent because it has not been their lot to have advanced education.
I think this is a good subject and i am enjoying the info about fellow members.
This country needs the solid strength our diversity provides.
My spouse did not have a degree but i considered him more intelligent and thoughtful than most folk.
Thanks to all who responded.

Kathy in NH
05-09-2008, 02:06 PM
I'm probably somewhere in the middle... Never aspired to go to 4-year college, and I feel very blessed to be where I'm at.

Went to a 2-year "business school" right out of HS (in the days when we still learned shorthand!). Then SAHM for 15 yrs and never bored! Picked up odd jobs along the way, and self taught computer skills. My real love is gardening and tropical plants, and have 2 p/t jobs in that field. I prefer hard, hands-on work and identify more with the "blue collars" and really truly believe Hillary can help all of us! But especially those who have been marginalized, and don't need a handout, but a hand up (paraphrasing Habitat for Humanity).

Somehow this labeling that is probably mostly the media's fault -- "lower educated blue collar" -- somehow implies if you have less education you need the wisdom of the "higher educated, higher income Obama supporters." Bleccchh!

PA_Voter
05-09-2008, 02:10 PM
Formal education was a BS in Mathematics... I went to a Liberal Arts college and yes, having the degree opened doors for me. However, my informal education is what I hang onto most--my parents outlook for me when I was young.

They believed that you should do whatever it is that you want to do and they were willing to help make it happen. It's the diversity of my education that has helped me through the years....

Jack of Many Trades... Master of None: I've gone from being a programmer, to a senior analyst, to a program manager, to a finance clerk, to a decisions support manager with landscaping, construction and painting jobs interspersed! Currently I'm a bookkeeper/accountant and Land Developer (not really, just went through a sub-division of my property so my sister can build a tiny house next door to me)!

Diversity is what Hillary understands, and we do too!!

LarryMac
05-09-2008, 02:12 PM
MA Computer Resources Management

Brooke
05-09-2008, 02:14 PM
B.A. Political Science, Minor in International Relations (Middle East focus)
American University 2001

Still planning on grad school once I get my job situation in order, in either Public Administration or Peace and Conflict Resolution.

portia9
05-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Me: BA in English

Husband: BSc. in EE, works at Microsoft Research. He has several friends there who are voting Hillary and most are PhD's.

Other Hillary supporters I know include an ex-teacher working at Microsoft, a family physician, a prominent lawyer who is my neighbor, as well as my other neighbor, also an educated Microsoftie.

Santiago
05-09-2008, 02:27 PM
Mba

Optixmom
05-09-2008, 03:00 PM
I love the line about the half empty glass----even if a dribble glass. That's so great!! Is that your writing? If so, wow!

Yup. It seems like she is always handed the dribble glass or the one with a crack in it and she always seems to be able to use it and make it extremely functional. The woman is an optimistic innovator!!!

Bacio83
05-09-2008, 03:07 PM
LOL It's funny cause my part time jobs are covered by my degree... singing with CT opera etc... but I got my current job from experience garneredd before I graduated HS. Since I started working as soon as I turned 16 my Mom said go get a job! LOL.

I ended up working in HR in High School for a big Insurance company for two years, had to dress up in business attire for my last two years of school it was funny.

And that is what got me my job after College, not my music degree. Figure that out :)

I did work all through college 32 hours a week so that helped too.. :0)

RachachaSharon
05-09-2008, 03:21 PM
BS; MS Management; law practice administrator

Jan26
05-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Postgraduate degree

Bloomer
05-09-2008, 04:05 PM
High school education and some college, no degree.......but stayed home to raise my own girls and then raised about 600 more children in a 22 year span operating a daycare/preschool out of my home.

What did I get out of that. 600 plus children who all went on to become something good. In the meantime being a single parent too I worked night and day to be sure that my own two girls would have the education that I didn't have and what did I get out of that........An attorney and a biologist.
Not bad for an uneducated mom.

BEST PART IS...... MY VOTE COUNTS JUST AS MUCH AS THE PHD.

AnnaB
05-09-2008, 04:39 PM
B.A. in Business

AntiObama007
05-09-2008, 04:48 PM
I graduated high school in 2007 and can't afford to go to college. :(

CGP
05-09-2008, 04:50 PM
Bachelors (x 3) & Masters.

houna
05-09-2008, 07:32 PM
MS ag econ.

RachachaSharon
05-09-2008, 07:48 PM
I guess this diversity in education and background means that we are well-educated, whether through life experience (the best teacher), formal education or a combination of both. We are strong, hard-working and (dare I say it) opinionated people, whether it's in our own homes raising our children or working on the next shuttle. Congratulations to us!

Bloomer
05-09-2008, 07:54 PM
YES! Patting all on the back for jobs well done. We all have paths to follow along our way....it is the seeds (ideas) we plant that leave the footprints saying we were here.

WV4Hillary
05-09-2008, 08:08 PM
College student - will be attending a college in the Ivy League next year.

pnevai
05-09-2008, 08:11 PM
BSEET

But honestly, just because you sat zombie like through 2 or more years of college does not mean you have the market cornered on smarts. You only need to see how many so called college educated political experts mis-pronounce Iraq and Iran.

If you can not ptoperly pronounce the name of a country you have no business talking about it.

8 out of 10 college graduates can not find Afghanistan on a world map, 50% could not find China in a recent study. So that is how much stock I put in the judgement of all those College Grads and Students that support Obama.

Montana Pat
05-09-2008, 08:15 PM
Ph.D. in Art History and Archaeology

Grew up on a farm in North Dakota, and was the first in my family to go to college and earn a bachelor's degree. I worked hard and got an MA and PhD on scholarships.

I know both worlds--the educated "elite" and the salt of the earth laborers, and I would trust the wisdom of the latter over the intellect of the former anyday.

nette60
05-09-2008, 10:21 PM
BS Business and Management..work for the Feds!

As you can see we are a diverse group...We represent Hillary and she represents us...the Media and Obama camp put out a lot of dribble to get young highschool and college 'kids' to support him..Yes there are some so called Latte drinkers but mostly not.

jerseygirl7
05-10-2008, 12:10 AM
BSN - Nursing
Legal Nurse Consultant
Masters / Health Education in progress

Bad Kitty
05-11-2008, 01:32 AM
Yes. Post graduate and still in school.

CGP
05-11-2008, 10:29 AM
I did not bring forth this topic to cause divide among Hillary supporters but to show our diversity and strength.
None are less intelligent because it has not been their lot to have advanced education.
I think this is a good subject and i am enjoying the info about fellow members.
This country needs the solid strength our diversity provides.
My spouse did not have a degree but i considered him more intelligent and thoughtful than most folk.
Thanks to all who responded.

It's an interesting topic, especially given the media likes to construct the average Hillary supporter as a dumb fool without any capacity to think independently!

eyedoc333
05-11-2008, 10:43 AM
B.S., M.S., Ph.D. in Biomedical Sciences

I work 2 jobs doing cancer research, one in academia, one in biotech.

PuppyDogMom
05-11-2008, 10:48 AM
BA - English

MA - Guidance and Counseling

Ph.D. - Educational Administration

Hope I'm only 4 years away from retirement.

memphis
05-11-2008, 11:53 AM
I got a college education the 'hard' way. I got married, divorced with one child, worked and went to college at night and weekends. Got a double major in Business and Computer Science with very high grades from the University of AL.
My parents were 'blue' color. My Father and Mother were intelligent and hard working. They had their ups and downs, their mistakes, their hard times. And how they loved their children (3 girls and 1 boy). Father worked in a saw mill for several years, my Mother in a sewing factory. They purchased a neighborhood grocery store and were very successful and respected in the community. They both were oldest children and had to quit school in the 8th grade to work on the farm. This is the kind of people that really count in this world. All of their children are college educated.

CGP
05-11-2008, 12:17 PM
BA - English

MA - Guidance and Counseling

Ph.D. - Educational Administration

Hope I'm only 4 years away from retirement.


Could you be more "qualified"!!!??? :)

Democratdoc
05-11-2008, 06:18 PM
B.Sc.(Biology), Masters (physiology), and M.D. degree. Yes, we're all poor, uneducated schmucks voting for Hillary, LOL! I guess the elitist Obamabots feel all superior......why?? Beats the hell out of me.

CGP
05-11-2008, 06:35 PM
B.Sc.(Biology), Masters (physiology), and M.D. degree. Yes, we're all poor, uneducated schmucks voting for Hillary, LOL! I guess the elitist Obamabots feel all superior......why?? Beats the hell out of me.

I don't think you have enough! Maybe one more?! ;)

musgrrl
05-14-2008, 11:30 AM
BM in Music Composition and Theory at New York University.

It's amazing how many "educated" people are voting for Obama. I think the Hillary supporters are much more educated when it comes to how you pick a president.

If this were a medical analogy, who would you rather have operating on you? The person who is charismatic and makes you feel good, or the one with the record of very little or no deaths on the operating table? It's possible that might be the same person, but what the obamabots are doing is picking the guy who is charismatic but has very little experience operating and might kill someone on the table.

What I'm saying is that what should matter primarily is how capable someone is to do the job. Everything else is secondary.

keys_11
05-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Collage educated doesn’t automatically mean COMMON SENSE which the Obamas so called educated supporters don’t have.

DemKR
05-14-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm right in the middle of my college years.......However, what happens when you get a degree these days? Do you get kool aid poured on you instead of gatorade?

jencul
05-14-2008, 02:42 PM
BA American History with Politics. Moved across country and went to university at 26 with an empty bank account and £20 in my pocket, worked my way through uni but found it wasn't really what i though it would be, there was hardly any discussion or debate which is what i really wanted and needed from the experience. It was pretty hard and my mother kept telling me to quit and come back home but I stuck it out and graduated because it was Hillary that inspired me to go and i knew she would never quit so i wasn't allowed to either plus i loved my subject so that helped. Thanks to Hillary i always had hope for the future and i will never stop fighting. I wish i could help her right now but I have a lot of faith in her and i know that America will realise that she's worth fighting for too.
She will be such an amazing President, every time i hear her speak i love America even more.

suerw
05-15-2008, 12:37 AM
MA-business administration.
Self-employed computer consultant (formerly a corporate computer operations manager)
Education aside, I consider the example of my family's solid values and motivation to succeed, as well as life experience far more important that formal education.
As someone here pointed out, formal education and degrees do not necessarily equal intelligence and certainly do not always equal common sense.
Go Hillary!!!!

je_80
05-15-2008, 09:46 AM
Bachelor of Fine Arts degree (went to a fine arts college)

CGP
08-31-2008, 09:03 PM
Relevant thread, in view of Andrea Mitchel's latest insult.

We_Count
08-31-2008, 09:18 PM
33 year old mother of 3 with a Bachelor's of Science in Psychology.

logan
08-31-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm a 24-year old with a BS in Communication, and my wife got her diploma in the top half of her class.

samkm
08-31-2008, 09:52 PM
Yes. 4 degrees, and 4 major certifications.

Hillicrat
08-31-2008, 09:58 PM
BS Math Ed, MS Math Ed, + a few more hours beyond.

DebDeb
08-31-2008, 10:02 PM
Bachelors in Communications; working toward my Masters. Too, I was a recording artist, have been published, and now have my own company.

I hate that we have to state these things, but this is war...

pongonis
08-31-2008, 10:23 PM
BS in nursing!

karate kid x
09-01-2008, 08:20 PM
i am currently a junior perusing a bachelor's degree in computer science

texasdad
09-10-2008, 01:48 PM
1 year of college......................

So what, I earn more than most people with a Phd.

Ellen McKinley
10-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Ph.D. in Mathematics Education

jlynne
12-23-2008, 08:56 PM
BS Organizational Management
JD General Civil Litigation
LLM Conflict Resolution
MFA in creative writing in progress

G'aal
12-24-2008, 09:04 PM
Undergraduate degree in Liberal Studies, J.D. (law degree).

However, this is really unimportant. This is Obama's game to separate people by arbitrary lines.

Having an alphabet behind your name doesn't make you any smarter, or any more anything.

I hope people who have put their time into different kinds of life experience will share on this thread.

I'm sharing because I think it's fun when we all talk together about our lives.

It's a nice break to the hard work we do for our candidate.

I agree with you with respect to sharing information. For the record, I have a Bachelor's degree in Finance. However, it was the media that continually made the demographics of the supporters for each candidate an issue, not Obama. I never heard him divide up the supporters along such lines.

Unless they were just making stuff up, Hillary did tend to engender large amounts of support amongst white middle-class voters, whereas Obama generally appealed to younger voters (particularly college educated, for whatever reason) and minorities. Even though there are plenty of examples to the contrary for both, on average, those were probably pretty accurate characterizations. I don't think it's a big deal - it's not like a college degree made those that supported Obama any better, other than whatever income-earning potential the degree carries with it.

G'aal
12-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Collage educated doesn’t automatically mean COMMON SENSE which the Obamas so called educated supporters don’t have.

I agree with the common sense part of your comment. However, characterizing all Obama "so called educated" supporters as lacking it is just as bad as calling all Hillary supporters uneducated. There were strong feelings on all sides. Hillary supporters absolutely felt she was right for the job, just as Obama supporters believed he was the superior candidate. McCain, well, I suppose the same applied, but he didn't ever stand much of a chance, given the landscape of this election.

I don't like calling everyone on one side or another anything sweeping, like Obama supporters lacking common sense. Just because you feel strongly one way doesn't make it right.

Horizon
12-24-2008, 09:14 PM
I am 41 and never graduated High School. I am starting Nursing School next month. I waited until my oldest two were raised and starting their own college education before I started mine. I have worked two jobs most of the time to make sure that they have had opportunities I did not. My youngest is 16 so we can study together!

disenchanted
12-25-2008, 01:20 AM
I have a HS education. I've been a SAHM since 1982 raising 4 daughters. When the last one graduates in 2010 I'll go back to college and get a degree in Horticulture. I'd like to open up my own garden center one day. The thing I've noticed about SAHMs is their ability to master so many different skills. I seriously doubt those that criticize my level of education could do my job.

It's our differences that make America unique. Each and every one of us has contributed to making this country a big old colorful patchwork quilt. How drab it would be if we were all the same.

foxyladi
08-23-2009, 01:21 PM
They can't teach horse sense in college. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize that Senator Clinton is the better qualified candidate.

We all know what Obama's marketing scam is trying to do to us. Clinton supporters represent people who have many differing priorities in their lives. Nobody can do it all. Some choose money, some choose career, some choose family, or friends, or time, or music/art, or health, or animals, community service, sports, or education, travel, politics, etc....and any combination of the above.

Putting people in boxes is a very old, tired marketing scam which reminds me of the old cigarette commercials ("beautiful, healthy looking models smoke cigarettes").

Fortunately, our camp fought back yesterday by labeling the little box Obama has claimed as "eggheads". Many of these "eggheads" I know are nice people; they just lack critical thinking skills and are prone to jump on bandwagons...even when it is destined to roll right over a cliff. Perhaps "lemmings" would be a better label.

Little games.

I've enjoyed learning about people's backgrounds. It just proves that we cannot be put in a little box.

think outside the box.