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Deerly
03-08-2008, 09:08 PM
"ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: While in Casper, Wyo., today Sen. Barack Obama ruled out the possibility being a vice presidential candidate during an interview with CBS' Montana affiliate KTVQ. Here is a transcipt of what he said.

Q: You’ve raised $55 million in February and in your speech today you said "I was against the war in ’03, ’04, ’05 -- all the way on through 2010, and you specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Could you ever see yourself on the same ticket as Senator Clinton?

A: Well, you know, I think it’s premature. You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate -- you know, I’m running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count -- but you know, what I’m really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. And I think that’s what people here are concerned about. How are you going to provide health care to every American? So I spend a lot of time talking about the plan I wanted to put in place that would not only lower costs for those who already have health insurance, but also make sure people who don’t have health insurance can get health care as good as the health care I have as a member of Congress. Those are the kinds of issues that really make a difference in people’s lives, and we’re going to keep on talking about them."

:rolleyes:

Remember folks, this is the candidate of unity not divisiveness. This is the candidate who believes in change, but apparently only when he's holding the reigns. This is also the candidate whose wife has said that she is proud of her country for the first time, because people are following her husband. This is the candidate who said he would not run again if defeated.

Personally, I think HRC is taking the higher ground here and I am very proud of her. Although I would not necessarily be pleased with a Clinton/Obama ticket it really brings attention to the fact that she is about unity, despite the Obamatron's claims. I think it will reflect very well on her that she is reaching out once again and he is brushing her aside.

To me, this just reaffirms how self righteous and arrogant Obama and his campaign has become. To be perfectly honest, if things don't go his way in November, I can see him dropping out of US politics and he and his wife harboring one hell of a grudge.

joeysky18
03-08-2008, 09:12 PM
i think the thought scared him off a bit. and he didn't know how to react properly without giving ground to HRC.

just another amateur hour.

bernie gagliano
03-08-2008, 09:16 PM
Lose him. I would want him in the Illinois Senate where he is never wrong on foreign affairs. I'd give him a red phone so he could call Hillary and tell her when not to go to war. That, he does good.

LetsHelpAmerica
03-08-2008, 09:21 PM
Here we go!!! This guy is so arrogant it makes me sick!! Here he is, a fairly young man with little experience but feels that somehow he is entitled to be president!! Why? Cause auntie Oprah said so? Why? Because his wife won't be a proud American unless her husband is elected?
If he really was a candidate of change....a candidate of unity, what he would do is this:
He'd work hard ( but fair ) to win the nomination and if he lost would be damn glad to be VP so he could gather experience and be in direct line to the presidency in 8 years. He would be honored to serve with someone as capable, dedicated and experienced as Hillary.
Hillary is NOT going to run again in 8 years! Her time is NOW!!! On the other hand, he would be younger than Hillary's present age in 8 years. I think he's arrogant to not want a VP position if he lost. And, he will lose!!

freespirit
03-08-2008, 09:22 PM
His excellency is not accustomed to the implication that he might be runner up, second fiddle, or anything other than the Grand Exhaulted One. I'm sure it was a little bit of a downer to have that question raised. Probably after he has had a chance to run it by Michelle and Oprah, they'll convince him that vice pres is better than no prez.

Robin Orlowski
03-08-2008, 09:25 PM
I wouldn't be suprised either if they dropped out. Oh, well.

LetsHelpAmerica
03-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Lose him. I would want him in the Illinois Senate where he is never wrong on foreign affairs. I'd give him a red phone so he could call Hillary and tell her when not to go to war. That, he does good.

Lose him is right!! I'm sure Auntie Oprah will buy him a pretty red phone for his office ( senate office ) .

B positive
03-08-2008, 09:27 PM
Well, that's too bad for him.... the V.P. estate is beautiful and full of pillows.

Look, he's saying that now but just like his troop withdrawal plan, his promise on campaign financing and his wink-wink on NAFTA, he will say another thing come this June..."I said I wouldn't do it but you know how I love CHANGE... therefore I'm changing my mind and accepting the VP position!"

Whatever..... GoHillaryGo!!

LetsHelpAmerica
03-08-2008, 09:30 PM
Well, that's too bad for him.... the V.P. estate is beautiful and full of pillows.

Look, he's saying that now but just like his troop withdrawal plan, his promise on campaign financing and his wink-wink on NAFTA, he will say another thing come this June..."I said I wouldn't do it but you know how I love CHANGE... therefore I'm changing my mind and accepting the VP position!"

Whatever..... GoHillaryGo!!


EXACTLY!! Thank-you! It is all about change!! I forgot!! You have made an excellent case!

samkm
03-08-2008, 09:32 PM
:D:D:D:D:D:D:)

The ONLY spark of potential I saw in BO was when he rejected and denounced Farrakhan AFTER Hillary coached him... and even then, it was begrudgingly conceded as a point, and not as a true agreement. And, for a few hours that day, I said May be, just may be he might make a good VP.

His self-view FAR EXCEEDS his record of delivery; and his demonstrated record of learning capability (except to manipulate voters); I dont see any genuine adjustment. His SELF-VIEW far exceed his (ABILITY and LEARNING) ==> BIG EGO. BIG EGO without Good record of accomplishment => Low SELF-RESPECT..

Hillary has the strength of character to maintain the relationship to such a degree that she would still consider it for the good of the party... Her ABILITY matches SELF-VIEW. => This is a VERY STRONG person, VERY SELF-ASSURED, CONFIDENT. She gains respect every minute...

samkm
03-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Well, that's too bad for him.... the V.P. estate is beautiful and full of pillows.

Look, he's saying that now but just like his troop withdrawal plan, his promise on campaign financing and his wink-wink on NAFTA, he will say another thing come this June..."I said I wouldn't do it but you know how I love CHANGE... therefore I'm changing my mind and accepting the VP position!"

Whatever..... GoHillaryGo!!

Love you folks... I mean it.

RAFREE
03-08-2008, 09:38 PM
She was so smart to hint at this. It shows exactly WHO would put this party first!! All he is doing by continuing to be so arrogant and insistent about this is showing he's only out for himself and it's going to bite him in the butt later on.

He's further alienating her supporters AND a great big chunk of this party that he has decided in this part of the election that he will not need.

Keep it up Obama. Keep it up, you will cut your nose off to spite your face.

jerseygirl7
03-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Wow! Did he really say he wouldn't run again if defeated!!! I have turned off the TV so I rely on HRC supporters to keep me informed. Best news I have heard all day.

BO and MO's arrogance is unbelievable. Still can't believe it has gotten to this point.

Deerly
03-08-2008, 09:57 PM
Rafree, I feel the exact same way!

LetsHelpAmerica
03-08-2008, 10:00 PM
She was so smart to hint at this. It shows exactly WHO would put this party first!! All he is doing by continuing to be so arrogant and insistent about this is showing he's only out for himself and it's going to bite him in the butt later on.

He's further alienating her supporters AND a great big chunk of this party that he has decided in this part of the election that he will not need.

Keep it up Obama. Keep it up, you will cut your nose off to spite your face.


That is an EXCELLENT point!!

samkm
03-08-2008, 10:13 PM
Hype :D
Dope :D
Smoke :D
Ego :D

Yes, he can! :D:D:D:D:D

RAFREE
03-08-2008, 10:44 PM
That is an EXCELLENT point!!

Donna, my sister thinks that the party is already putting some pressure on him to get in line and bring the party together. She said his demeanor has seemed more down and that Hillary wouldn't have brought this up if they hadn't already hinted at it on a higher level in the party.

By her showing NOW that SHE will work together and him saying he won't...it sure doesn't look good on him as a "unifier" makes him look divisive and selfish..out for self. He's only forty six, is far less qualified so for him to say he won't unify and run as president after her WHILE gaining the experience that will quiet his critics. AND possibly denying her this as a much older candidate...well, the is starting to look like a spoiled brat who wants his OWN way, self interest ABOVE the party well being.

How will he be able to put the country's needs above his own desires if he can't even do that in this part of the election. If he won't even consider it??? I think John McCain would CERTAINLY make that point against him later. I know I would!

His inexperience is showing in his selfish remarks. Like I said, this will bite him in the butt later.

Lodi
03-08-2008, 10:51 PM
Lose him. I would want him in the Illinois Senate where he is never wrong on foreign affairs. I'd give him a red phone so he could call Hillary and tell her when not to go to war. That, he does good.

Thanks for the good laugh. I was starting to get a little depressed. Feel better now! ;)

Soren
03-09-2008, 12:18 AM
... he's in a corner. He can't select as his VP anyone who voted "yes" in 2002 because he's based his entire campaign on that the President has to have had the judgement to have voted "no" at that time. So his VP has to have voted no at that time. That cuts Edwards out as the VP for Obama - how could he accept someone with that judgement?
That leaves Obama with Barbara Boxer, Feingold, Durbin, Levin as possible running mates. He'd suggested Republican Hagel for his own Secy of State, but Hagel voted yes in 2002, so how could he even suggest that?
I think he's in a corner with a short list - or he is left to go outside the Senate for some real change. Maybe outside the dreaded politics altogether: Oprah, Tom Cruise, Maria Shriver - no, just kidding.

;) But really, what Democrat could he pick if he were willing to play pretend as HIllary is? Who can keep his "position" of beyond politics clear and clean? Maybe U can find some others on this list: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

Patsy
03-09-2008, 12:28 AM
The ultimate uniter!

He's just shown the truth, that he has no interest in uniting this Party, but only furthering his own agenda!

Another faux pas for the good guys.

B positive
03-09-2008, 12:29 AM
she's with Hillary

SD
03-09-2008, 10:36 AM
i thought it was a wise move on hillary's part to say she would ask him to be vp. and i think/hope she knew he would refuse. :o

he seems unable to "think fast on his feet". without his words already written out and planned, he stumbles and dodges answers. the man scares the hell out of me.

every day that passes, to me, he seems more attached to farakon (sp).

unity? i would love to hear his definition of the word.

Patsy
03-09-2008, 10:42 AM
i thought it was a wise move on hillary's part to say she would ask him to be vp. and i think/hope she knew he would refuse. :o

he seems unable to "think fast on his feet". without his words already written out and planned, he stumbles and dodges answers. the man scares the hell out of me.

every day that passes, to me, he seems more attached to farakon (sp).

unity? i would love to hear his definition of the word.

But, you know it wouldn't be his own definition seeing as he's so fond of "borrowing" words:)

CGP
03-09-2008, 11:12 AM
She was so smart to hint at this. It shows exactly WHO would put this party first!! All he is doing by continuing to be so arrogant and insistent about this is showing he's only out for himself and it's going to bite him in the butt later on.

He's further alienating her supporters AND a great big chunk of this party that he has decided in this part of the election that he will not need.

Keep it up Obama. Keep it up, you will cut your nose off to spite your face.

Yes. And we know why he behaves this way!!!??!!!

Ohio mom
03-09-2008, 11:24 AM
And don't forget, this is also the man who's wife is on the board of a "not-for-profit" hospital that earned over $100 million last year for gouging people who didn't have any insurance!!!And he didn't do anything about because his wife pocketed a few hundred thousand $$$$$ because of it!!!! ;)

Jake501
03-09-2008, 10:02 PM
His best shot at ever being President is being with Hillary for 8 years and then trying to run.

xfiles
03-09-2008, 11:17 PM
Obama is nothing but arrogant, presumptive and self-centered. If he really cared about this country, he would consider the vp slot. In 8 years he'd be the presumptive nominee for president and we could get a good look at him over the next 8 years. What's he afraid of???

Robin Orlowski
03-10-2008, 09:15 AM
Well he's going to go down in history--unless he suddenly wises up---as arrogant and self-centered. He could care less about acchieving social justice in America.

Unfortunately, you do meet a couple of organizers like that. It comes with the territory. Social justice begins and ends with their little clique of friends and everybody else is window dressing.

They're taken along for the ride, but never supposed to get in the way of things. :mad:

And that's where so many of the newcomers were lured in. People want to feel a part of something bigger than themselves.