De-Register From the Democratic Party Now

[bernie gagliano]

They don't believe we won't vote for Ob**A.

They allowed the rape of Hillary by the MSM and said nothing. Many of the operatives of the DNC, and Super Delegates, participated as talking heads.

They have allowed the only truly successful Democratic Presidency in 50 years to be assaulted by Ob**a and the Reagan years lofted above the Clinton prosperity as the preferred model for the future.

They have abandoned Florida voters, again. They have abandoned Michigan voters.

They have called for the end to the campaign for over six weeks, trying to nullify the voters of nine states, Guam and Puerto Rico.

They want a coronation by June, not a convention in late August.

Pelosi and Reid, Dean and the others, traitors to the Clintons, traitors to the party voters, and ultimately discredited leaders, need to see that no one is following them in their travesty of democracy, circa 2008.

They took our money and squandered the 2006 election results, and now they are double-crossing us in this nomination process.

The proper action for any and all Hillary Clinton voters is to de-register from the Democratic party and refuse to support anyone who has not been loyal to the Clintons, or who has not proven their impartiality, or who has not spoken out against the mis-treatment, gender bias, race baiting, and double standards of party officials and the MSM.

There is no grey area to hide in. Neither for a Hillary Clinton supporter and voter or for the swine that lead the party now.

Howard Dean, a proven loser, Donna Brazille, hypocrite extraordinaire, and the legions of piglets we have seen trot their noses over to Ob**a to stick in the rump of the Fraud they want to coronate, deserve a shell of a party to command.

We are the heart and soul, the true majority base, and we have 15 million votes to prove it. We need to leave this cesspool and prevent their sham to become a fact in Denver.

When they see the mass rejection of their leadership we may have Hillary as the candidate of the party.

If that does not work, we will assure the Fraud's defeat in November.

How bad can McCain be? We've survived Bush and Cheney, and we haven't had a good Supreme Court judge who cared about the people since William O. Douglas died. Their arguments are a joke, as their leadership has been.

We leave starting tomorrow. We leave the party and we stand our ground with Hillary. Everyone can vote in the General Election. I will writing her name on the ballot. She is my choice for 2008 and that does not stop when the primaries end in June.

Spread the word. De-register from the Democratic party and stand with Hillary through the General Election.

The steps to de-register are easy. Contact your county clerk of elections.
Get a form or download one from their website, and mail it in. In California the term to put is "Decline to state". Each state has some variation.

Calif: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/english.pdf

Search state and county offices on this site's database: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/overseas/eod.htm?stateId=

Typical Voter Registration Form many states use: http://www.fabnit.com/nvra-update-09-12-06.pdf

One phone call and you get your information and the form if they do not have one on line to download.

Fill it in. Mail it back.

As thousands of others do also, the roar of our actions will attract their attention, finally.

Do not ask permission to rebel against the injustice of the 2008 primary system. Stand up like an American should and leave this disgraceful party.

Our route to the White House for Hillary requires our rebellious action. Anything less will be failure.

[MarkMiller]

Have you already done so? Has anyone else done so?

I want to guage the numbers....but eventualy I believe I will soon.

[Meg]

Thank goodness I never sent my voter registration in back in January! :cool:

[SoCal4Hillary]

I guess I hadn't thought of acting this soon, although I've certainly planned on leaving the Dem party. And, honestly, I never even knew about "de-registering" from a party! I thought it would involve leaving the Dems and registering as a Rep or Ind. Who knew?! :eek:

Anyway, I've been unsure as to when--strategically--the BEST time to make the switch would be. I can see pros and cons for each of various times. I don't know...I'm just not sure. :confused:

[Ijane]

I will de-register tomorrow.

When Senator Clinton runs for an election:

I STAND BY HILLARY

If Senator Clinton doesn't get the nomination:

SENATOR CLINTON IS MY PRESIDENT

I will leave the democratic party tomorrow in protest. If it doesn't matter then it's not a party I want to be apart of.

[Borlah]

Does anyone know how it works in Ohio? I had never voted in a Primary beoore this year so the postcard I get from the board of elections states that I am "undeclared." I called the BoE weeks before our primary to make sure I was eligible to vote and I was told that Ohio does not recognize an Independent party (which is what I figured I would be considered) and that my party affiliation would be determined by which ballot I requested. Basically, I can move back and forth from election to election. I guess what I am asking is will it really make a difference and will the party get the message.

[ZY123]

Have you already done so? Has anyone else done so?

I want to guage the numbers....but eventualy I believe I will soon.

I did it over a month ago....I was already Independent in April when I joined....now I wish I was Dem so I could participate in the mass defection.

[bernie gagliano]

I will be doing it tomorrow morning, right after I send the morning scripts to our phone group. I will call the Orange County Clerk, verify what form to use (they have a pdf on line) verify the words to use to change my registration, and end my 48 year as a democrat in Florida (1960), New York (1964), New Jersey (1968) and California (1971).

When 7.5 million, about half of Hillary's voter do this, the earth will swallow the DNC and the Super Delegates. It is what we must do.

[Soren]

I am de-registering this week!
it feels liberating and smart. Dem party got stupid.
I will be free. I like not calling myself a Democrat. It liberates me from voting for people because they are Democrat.

YaY! thank you.

[pnevai]

I have to hold on incase they revote Florida, you have to vote your party in that state.

[Wales for Hillary]

WAIT!!!!!! We need to pick a date, market it, and all do it at the same time. Both myself, my girlfriend, and 5 of my close friends will be doing so, butt we were hoping to wait for a date to make an impact with thousands of other true democrats.

[Borlah]

Just found this. It is the National Voter Mail Registraion Form.

http://www.fabnit.com/nvra-update-09-12-06.pdf

It has the basic form to register and also has rules by state. I only read Ohio's rules so I don't know if it tells how to de-register for others. No help to me but I thought I would share.

[ZY123]

WAIT!!!!!! We need to pick a date, market it, and all do it at the same time. Both myself, my girlfriend, and 5 of my close friends will be doing so, butt we were hoping to wait for a date to make an impact with thousands of other true democrats.

Did you see the Operation Independent project Shy has?

[Musicdude]

NOTIFY THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA some are listed below


I really don't know if w can get any help here But it may be worth a shot !


Rush Limbaugh 14mm
Noon - 3 PM ET at: 1-800-282-2882

Sean Hannity 13mm
3-6PM ET 800.941.7326

Michael Savage 8.25 mm 6-9 PM ET 800-449-TALK (8255)

Laura Schlesinger 8.25 mm 2:30-6 PM ET 800-375-2872

Glenn Beck 6.50 mm
9 am – Noon ET 888-727-BECK

Laura Ingraham 5.25
9 am – Noon ET 800.876.4123

Mark Levin 5.25 mm
6-8 PM ET 1-877-381-3811

Neil Boortz 4.25 mm
8:30 am – 1 PM ET 877.310.2100

Dave Ramsey 4.25 mm
Noon-3pm ET 888-825-5225

Michael Gallagher 4 mm
Noon-3 PM ET 800-655-MIKE

Michael Medved 4 mm
3-6pm ET 800-955-1776

Jim Bohannon 3.25
10pm - 1 am ET 866-505-4626

Clark Howard 3.25
1-4pm ET: (877) 87-CLARK

Bill O’Reilley 3.25
Noon – 2pm ET 1-877-9-NO SPIN

Doug Stephan 3.25
6:00-10:00 AM ET 1-800-510-8255

Bill Bennett 3 mm
8-9 AM ET 866-680-6464

Jerry Doyle 3 mm NOON – 3 PM Pacific Time 800.876.4123

George Noory 3 mm

Ed Schultz 3 mm
Noon-3 PM ET 877-934-6833

Rusty Humphries 2.25 mm
9 AM – NOON ET 800-449-TALK

Kim Komando 2.25 mm SATURDAYS 10 am – 1 pm ET 888-825-5254

Lars Larson 2.25 mm
3-6 PM Pacific Time (866) HEY-LARS

Jim Rome 2.25 mm
Noon-3 PM ET 800.636.8686

Bob Brinker 1.75 mm Money Talk with Bob Brinker Sat & Sunday 4-7 PM ET 800-934-2221

Tom Leykis 1.75 mm

Mancow 1.75 mm
6:30-9 AM ET 1-888-2-MANCOW

Joy Browne 1.5 mm
Noon – 3pm ET 800-544-7070

Thom Hartmann 1.5 mm
Noon-3pm ET 866-303-2270

Hugh Hewitt 1.5 mm
3- 6 PM Pacific Time 800-520-1234

Gordon Liddy 1.5 mm
10 am – 1 pm ET 800-445-4339

Dennis Miller 1.5 mm
2-4 PM ET 866.509.7268

Stephanie Miller 1.5 mm
9 AM – Noon ET 1-800-STEPH-1-2

Alan Colmes 1.5 mm 10 PM – 1 AM ET (begins show with open phones) 877-FOR-ALAN

Michael Reagan 1 mm
6-9 PM ET 800-468-6453

[DemKR]

Staying a Democrat because I am a candidate for DNC delegate in California! I will find out if I get it on or after May 18th. Wish me luck :)

[Patsy]

I resigned my Democratic Party Affiliation on May 7, 2008. The day after the debacle of a Primary in my home State in which voter fraud and intimidation were allowed by all Local, State and National Officials.

Some of which my Tax Dollars funded.

I mailed my letter to Chairman Dean along with a cc to Sens. Reid, Kennedy, Edwards, Kerry and Speaker Pelosi.

I also sent a separate letter to the Chairman of the NC Dem Party in reference to the inexcusable behavior they sanctioned with their silence at the JJ dinner in Raleigh last week where they allowed the Governor to be heckled and booed and allowed Barack Obama to systematically vilify Hillary Clinton.

I want no part of an organization that sanctions such behavior as that.

I am now officially a proud member of the Independent Party.

[Ijane]

Oh Bernie I'm so sorry for you. I know how hard you've worked for Senator Clinton and this is all so heartbreaking...I'm going in the morning.



SENATOR CLINTON IS MY PRESIDENT!

[Borlah]

Staying a Democrat because I am a candidate for DNC delegate in California! I will find out if I get it on or after May 18th. Wish me luck


Good Luck!:)

[samkm]

NOTE: THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE STOP WORKING TO GET HILLARY TO WIN. WE ARE SIMPLY SHOWING THE EXTENT OF OUR COMMITMENT TO HER AS THE TRUE LEADER.. OVER PARTY AFFILIATION.. TO GET OUR message ACROSS in bulk.

[lanesharon]

I already reregistered as an Independent in Arizona last week (on the net). I have been a Democrat for 40 years. Sad day for me. :(

[ZY123]

NOTE: THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE STOP WORKING TO GET HILLARY TO WIN. WE ARE SIMPLY SHOWING THE EXTENT OF OUR COMMITMENT TO HER AS THE TRUE LEADER.. OVER PARTY AFFILIATION.. TO GET OUR message ACROSS in bulk.

Absolutely yes - this is important! We are fighters - this is just a way of showing solidarity. The fight continues.

[lynfreedom]

Bernie, should we not wait for the primaries to end? If by chance she wins, how will it affect our voting for her. Also, I agree if we pick a date and do a group at once, it will have more impact.

Not sure if anyone has seen this. Found it by accident while sending out the petition.

Someone has started a website for a Hillary Write-In.

http://www.writehillaryin.com/

It has links for the states so everyone can see their own rules.

[MarkMiller]

When I do it I am sending a letter to Donna Brazile and a Latte coupon to starbucks.

[SoCal4Hillary]

Add me to those who would like a "let's do it!" date to mass defect. I know NOTHING can be counted on any more--this entire campaign has proven that--so perhaps a mass defection won't mean much to the DNC, but I think it's worth a shot anyway.

I've been a Democrat...my whole life. Or, at least, since I was old enough to grasp the basic differences between Democrats and Republicans. I've worked for Democratic presidential campaigns starting in 1972--when I couldn't even VOTE yet!--because I believed in what the Dems stood for. Now? Now...I'm ashamed to carry the label "Democrat." :(

[bernie gagliano]

I will be with her until she is in the White House. We work every day until the primaries end. We go forward. But we get out of the party.

Sharon of hillary-clintons-voice left the party.
Renee of Florida left the party.
KittyNC left the party.

Why would you stay?

Those are three of the most ardent activists for Hillary in the nation. They were the most passionate, intelligent people I have been allied with since this began for me. They worked and put big money into Hillary. They helped other all over the country, in many states. They were the best of the party.

I have been too busy working for Hillary every waking moment to have done it sooner, but my intention was to act when they did. I'm out.

I posted it on our website. I will send the link to it out to all our phoners and to allied groups we work with.

The sound you hear is the Democratic party beginning to crumble. In a month and half it will be a shell. Hillary was always the choice of registered Dems. He was the choice of newly registered and crossovers from Repub and Independents. We are the base. We are the party voters. They are the frauds.

[MarkMiller]

I will be with her until she is in the White House. We work every day until the primaries end. We go forward. But we get out of the party.

Sharon of hillary-clintons-voice left the party.
Renee of Florida left the party.
KittyNC left the party.

Why would you stay?

Those are three of the most ardent activists for Hillary in the nation. They were the most passionate, intelligent people I have been allied with since this began for me. They worked and put big money into Hillary. They helped other all over the country, in many states. They were the best of the party.

I have been too busy working for Hillary every waking moment to have done it sooner, but my intention was to act when they did. I'm out.

I posted it on our website. I will send the link to it out to all our phoners and to allied groups we work with.

The sound you hear is the Democratic party beginning to crumble. In a month and half it will be a shell. Hillary was always the choice of registered Dems. He was the choice of newly registered and crossovers from Repub and Independents. We are the base. We are the party voters. They are the frauds.

Amen!

[ZY123]

Bernie, should we not wait for the primaries to end? If by chance she wins, how will it affect our voting for her.

No no....everyone can vote in the GE no matter what party....how else would Independents vote and have such a huge influence in every election? No worries. =)

EDIT: Unless you mean you live in a state that has not voted in the Primary yet - in which case you should NOT re-register without checking the rules first.

[samkm]

I got this information that Average Jane had posted elsewhere and I post it here for tomorrow.

State by state voting laws and rules for changing your party affiliation: http://tinyurl.com/3x8j6f

If you need to re-register you can do so at your states linked website or here: http://electionimpact3.votenet.com/declareyourself/voterreg2_ret/
**you can also change your name and address if needed.

Then call the DNC and tell them you left the party and why:

Phone: 877-336-7200-----OR-----202-863-8000

AND
send the letter posted here: http://www.myspace.com/operation_independent
and
via US MAIL TO:
Howard Dean
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

AND by e-mail to: howarddean@dnc.org

AND http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact

AND by Fax to: +1 202 488 5017

===========

WE STAY WITH HILLARY. WE SUPPORT HER ALL THE WAY.

[SoCal4Hillary]

Sharon of hillary-clintons-voice left the party.
Renee of Florida left the party.
KittyNC left the party.

Why would you stay?Speaking for myself only, it's not a matter of staying, it's simply a matter of choosing when the optimum time is to bail. I had assumed that I would wait until after the convention [if, of course, its results were undesirable], that's all. I just didn't think it would be this soon, and I'm still not convinced that THIS moment in time makes that much of a statement. But [thanks to Sudha], I'm doing it tomorrow...

[Borlah]

This is my first post. I can't sleep because I'm so angry at how the DNC is treating Hillary. I am beyond livid over their blatant manipulation of the nomination. Obviously, they think we are idiots and can't see what they're doing. Sometimes, I wonder if they're just trying to get her voters out there to vote. I wish that were the case. But taking thinkgs at face value, it seems they are hell bent on sabbotaging her campaign and it's made me physically sick and depressed. I cannot believe the abuse this woman is having to take just to race with the good ol' boys. If Hillary does not get the nomination, I will hold the Democratic Party responsible for our loss, and I will never EVER support or vote for another democratic candidate again, unless of course it's Hillary. In any event, I will make certain that I am registered as an Independent.

Welcome! I have to say that there are democrats out there that still deserve and need our support. Hillary has great support among elected democrats and there is no reason that we should turn our backs on them. In fact, we should doulble our efforts for them in their upcoming elections. Do everything you can to oust the heirarchy. Question your own states representatives to the senate and house and put the pressure on them if they support Obama.

[Musicdude]

MAKE SURE YOUR TIMING ON THESE EFFORTS TO LEAVE THE PARTY DO NOT DISCOURAGE HILLARY OR HER CAMPAIGN PEOPLE. JUNE IS BETTER TIMING THAN MAY. just my 2 cents...

[Ijane]

This is the right time if the point is to send a message. The DNC needs as much time prior to the convention as possible to be able to witness this and think about it.

If Hillary receives the nomination, it only takes about 30 days prior to an election for a person to register or re-register to vote (but please check that number against your state's rules).

[Soren]

U bet we're with HIllary 'til she gets in the White House, as Bernie said, but we are not wid dem Dems.

:):):):):)
I'm so excited not to be a Democrat.
We left them at the left. We did what's right to the right
We unite
We are Hillaryites
We fight good fights

[Meg]

I'd say why not do it like 2 weeks before the general election.. that'll defintely send a panic:D

[samkm]

This is my first post. I can't sleep because I'm so angry at how the DNC is treating Hillary. I am beyond livid over their blatant manipulation of the nomination. Obviously, they think we are idiots and can't see what they're doing. Sometimes, I wonder if they're just trying to get her voters out there to vote. I wish that were the case. But taking thinkgs at face value, it seems they are hell bent on sabbotaging her campaign and it's made me physically sick and depressed. I cannot believe the abuse this woman is having to take just to race with the good ol' boys. If Hillary does not get the nomination, I will hold the Democratic Party responsible for our loss, and I will never EVER support or vote for another democratic candidate again, unless of course it's Hillary. In any event, I will make certain that I am registered as an Independent.

Welcome friend. We are in the same boat. This is the anger they are going to hear tomorrow. They are going to hear about TRUE DEMOCRACY. They need to hear about Florida and Michigan.. about counting the votes and SEATING THE DELEGATES SO THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.. not seating them to look pretty after the process. ABOUT FAIRNESS.. about DECENCY.. about stopping their SEXISM. And a whole lot more. For standing by namecalling and calling us things we are not TO COVER UP INCOMPETENCE, and EMPTY RHETORIC THAT IS BEING SERVED UP with ZERO CREDIBILITY.. And the leadership has stood by it TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR LEADER. THE UNFAIRNESS NEEDS TO STOP. WE ARE DONE WITH THE PARTY. WE ARE STILL WILLING TO VOTE FOR HILLARY, BUT WE WILL DO SO AS INDEPENDENTS.

[lynfreedom]

I have seen how hard Bernie has worked for Hillary (and answered all my multiple questions about phone calls I am making). For him to get to this point, we must realize there is no other way. If we all do tomorrow when so many of his groups are doing it, will show that something is going on.

Thanks for sticking in there Bernie as well as all the others who are working hard.

[hillarymyhero]

Please, giude me, how to de register from dems?

[Borlah]

You can look up the thread for many helpful links. It all depends on the rules for your state.

[mcgowan.swan]

if we mass defect now it will tell the dnc that they should go with obama as we are leaving anyway. we need to wait and be sure hillary is not the nominee. then, the second the dnc says obama is official, then we mass defect. we dont know what effect going now will have. it may hurt hillary. she is saying she holds the working class DEMOCRATS if we all leave, then she does not hold power in the party where she needs it right now. please wait until we know one way or the other what the end result of this primary election is. then we can set a date and let them know. hillary is still in talks with the supers and she needs us to be in the party to hold her support up. as independents we will not have sway behind her as much.

[Diamond Tiger]

They need to hear about Florida and Michigan.. about counting the votes and SEATING THE DELEGATES SO THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.


I don't know if everyone knows this, but according to DNC rules, the DNC can only take away 50% of the delegates....not 100%.

Oh, and as for the renouncing of the democratic voter registration, I am sad to say that I will not be able to join you in that because I did it after Carter.

[Disfranchised]

I am sending change of party affiliation today. all 8 people in my immediate family across the country will become independent. God bless Hillary.

[Catherine]

I've posted this before, but it seemed appropriate to resurrect it today.

April 22, 2008


Howard Dean, Chairman
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol Street, S.E.
Washington, D.C. 20003

Dear Chairman Dean:

This seems as good a day as any to inform you that I visited my Town Hall a few weeks ago and changed my party affiliation from Democrat to “unenrolled” (Independent). This move reflects my loss of confidence that the DNC is capable of effectively managing the 2008 Presidential election.

The prospect of taking this step was harder than actually doing it. It wasn’t just my natural procrastinating nature, it’s that I’ve proudly worn my party affiliation throughout my adult life – a legacy from my maternal grandmother who only gained the right to vote following the births of six of her seven children. Throughout her life she liked to say she voted “the entire Democratic ticket” – local, state and national offices. Her hero was Franklin Roosevelt. She credited him with rescuing not only our country – but also her precious family.

Today, many who personally remember the Roosevelt years are voting in their final elections – though I wish them long, healthy lives. My generation is now on their side of the generation divide. Voters raised in the 1950’s and ‘60’s ideologically found a home in the party and, as importantly, recall that legacy passed on by parents and grandparents. As time has passed, some have certainly felt comfortable shedding party labels – how else to explain “Reagan Democrats” and the growing number of voters enrolled as independents. But still, that core of democratic voters has remained – a reliable sector of the electorate that can be called “legacy” democrats.

My fear today is that it will be the ugliness of this election – the personal attacks leveled by Democrats themselves that will prematurely break the bond that middle aged and elderly voters have with the party. Perhaps the party has already calculated the number of voters like me who plan to desert it and determined that it can live with that loss. What I’d ask them to consider though is – are they ready to lose that next generation who like me was predisposed to voting “the entire democratic ticket”. I can’t speak for other families, but mine knows that I feel passionately about this issue. As this process has played out with either the ineffectiveness of Party leaders or worse, their covert complicity in failing to rein in the savaging of the Clintons, my children are bound to hear about the failings or perhaps the treachery of the Democratic Party during the 2008 Primary season. It appears that my legacy will not include continued devotion to the Democratic Party.


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I’m one who believes that the super delegates are there to make sure that we have a winning candidate in the general election. Are they supposed to turn over the clearly expressed overwhelming support for one candidate over another? – absolutely not. But currently, that situation doesn’t exist. Both candidates have shown strengths as well as weaknesses that need to be considered before Democrats send the nominee out to compete in the general election. Both candidates are pretty much tied in national polls. The peculiarities of the caucuses may have given one candidate the appearance of a leg up. I know however that insiders within the party realize that caucus results don’t translate to victories in Electoral College results.

Recently, we’ve seen the unleashing of attacks on Clinton the likes of which have never been seen in a democratic primary (during this age of instantaneous communication and the 24 hour news cycle) as well as demands that she leave the race. At the same time Clinton’s opponent is dealing with lingering questions about his judgment. Curiously, though he manages to obtain a few high profile endorsements. As we approached the final week before the Pennsylvania primary, I cynically noted a few more 3rd tier endorsements timed for maximum gain. All this seemed designed to lower her support in Pennsylvania – a state where she was expected to carry by double-digit numbers before the vicious, unfair attacks on her honesty and reports of “voter fatigue” began surfacing. In the wake of these attacks, the Obama campaign and media release a flurry of polls that show a decline in support for her candidacy and how positively she is viewed. My question, where were the polls showing Obama’s significant declines since February – before the Rev. Wright situation even surfaced.

To sum up, my fear for the Democratic Party in the short term is that they may be embarked on a course of badly gauging public sentiment concerning the viability of Senator Obama’s candidacy going forward. Showing once again that Democrats have an uncanny ability to “snatch defeat from the jaws of victory”. As memories of this election fade, regardless of the outcome, many Democrats will wonder why the Party allowed the savaging of the Clintons. They’ll wonder why, to promote the candidacy of someone not fully vetted and so inexperienced, The DNC permitted one campaign to sacrifice the reputation of Bill Clinton, the only Democrat in almost 50 years to win re-election to a full eight-year term as President. Whoever dreamed up and ultimately stayed silent about the strategy of linking the Clinton years with those of Bush may ultimately be responsible for the election of John McCain. This I believe is at the heart of why so many of us have threatened to jump to McCain in the November election. As an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton, I understand that she’s on record as calling for her supporters to unite behind the eventual nominee. I respect and admire her but this issue – the direction of the Democratic Party and what it will accept as fair play concerning the conduct of its candidates – has me determined now to support John McCain if Obama is nominated.


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No one more than myself wants to be proved wrong about all this. I’m just not hopeful in the face of these unrelenting attacks on Hillary Clinton. I hope she prevails in Pennsylvania as well as the future primaries. Significant wins could clear the path toward the nomination of this historic candidate. She can’t though with what appears to be the sabotaging efforts of that faction of the DNC that is tied to an Obama candidacy at all costs – even at the cost of that ultimate prize, a Democratic victory in November.


I’m hoping that officials at the DNC can rein in those surrogates of Senator Obama who continue to unfairly paint Senator Clinton as the source of negativity in this campaign. I believe that their insinuations as well as the huge media bias that’s been expressed is at the heart of the so-called likeability and popularity numbers that get so much coverage. No one believes that the future of the Democratic Party is helped when a former President and his administration are subjected to unrelenting attacks Do Democrats really believe that the Clinton years can be linked to the disastrous Bush years? Yet, that’s what Senator Obama’s strategy has been since the beginning to demean and challenge the administration of the only Democrat elected to a full eight-year term since Franklin Roosevelt.

I’d leave you with this final thought. If this “legacy” democrat could survive eight years of George W. Bush, she can live through four years of John McCain while the Democratic Party figures out its “true” base.



Sincerely yours,







Enclosure: Notice of Change in Party Affiliation

[Charlie Brown]

Make sure you arent encouraging the voters that havent voted in this Primary yet...You have to be a Democrat in Iowa to vote in the primary. In the general you can be whatever...Are you sure this is a good time to encourage this...I trust you Bernie But I worry about the states that havent voted....

[bernie gagliano]

Don't change yet if your are in a state that hasn't voted yet, or in Puerto Rico, too.
Also, for several more week, in Florida and Michigan, just in case that becomes an issue before May ends when they should have the final decision.

For everyone else in all the rest of the States, do it.

This strengthens Hillary. It shows that we will never vote for the Fraud in the General Election. It shows Pelosi and the gang in D.C, and Dean and the gang of thieves and liars in the DNC, and the hypocrite sellout Super Delegates that we reject them. And we will be a force against them.

We don't support her because we are Dems (or were); we are supporting her because in our individual and collective judgment she is far superior, and just what the nation needs. We are picking the best, not the least.

You can see by Donna Brazile's intemperate email to Jennifer Lee that they have contempt for us, that they do look down on us like pawns in their game.

Well, the Game is Over! If they steal the nomination and then try to win in the General Election, they will be exposed as the delusional elites they are.

Do this today. Show the power of an angered electorate that will not let them screw us and destroy the best candidate in the race.

[ginamc]

if we mass defect now it will tell the dnc that they should go with obama as we are leaving anyway. we need to wait and be sure hillary is not the nominee. then, the second the dnc says obama is official, then we mass defect. we dont know what effect going now will have. it may hurt hillary. she is saying she holds the working class DEMOCRATS if we all leave, then she does not hold power in the party where she needs it right now. please wait until we know one way or the other what the end result of this primary election is. then we can set a date and let them know. hillary is still in talks with the supers and she needs us to be in the party to hold her support up. as independents we will not have sway behind her as much.

Agreed! This is highly problematic if implemented prior to June 3. People still need to vote. And, Delegates are bound to this through August. I'm a Delegate and my State Convention is on June 6. As it is, I'm already receiving phone calls and emails from Obama people asking me to switch on June 6! This is too, too confusing for people right now. Let's chill out for just a few more weeks, please.

[Bad Kitty]

I'm in TX so we already voted but we don't have to register either way but I am definitely going to vote for Hillary and no other democrat just b/c they are a democrat ever again.

[movingtous]

Why don't we all wait and do it, on the same day? Is there a way to do this online, and submit it on the same day? I am so furious that I don't know if I'll ever come back to this party. I feel so unwanted and so unappreciated by our party. I have been so faithfully voting with my heart since I graduated from college, that I feel betrayed. I will not be falling in line and voting rank and file Democrat. Just watch. Someone needs to come up with a forum for us, should the worst happen... Like a McCainocrat forum, or something.

[SoCal4Hillary]

I'm sorry, maybe due to lack of sleep and too little coffee thus far this morning, I'm just not thinking clearly. Actually, I feel a bit like my head is spinning. :eek:

Fair enough...but here's my problem: We have to MAIL in our de-registrations...which means there's NO WAY they're going to arrive BEFORE tomorrow's primaries.

So, with my head fully spinning now, I'm left wondering...WTF?! Why send them in now if they're not going to be received/processed until AFTER Hillary's wins tomorrow? Won't that give exactly the wrong impression? :confused:

[bernie gagliano]

One: you cannot begin a mass movement on a date. Never has happened.

Two: if your voter registration is still required, in states not voting yet, or if your party affiliation is connected to being delegate, of course you stay.

Three: the "how does it look?" argument is very, very weak thinking. Staying inside when they have mauled Hillary and spit in our faces and rationalizing that our movement outside the party is damaging to Hillary is ridiculous.

We take our votes in the General Election away from the party and away from the Fraud. We deliver them to Hillary. She is either the nominee or we write her name in.

If you stay, you strengthen their argument that Hillary counts for nothing. He is banking on converting us to his cult.

We are the heart of her campaign. The names of the first de-registrants are well known activists. You are not thinking clearly if you think KittyNC is not known. Her last act in NC was raising $145,000 for Hillary. You don't think she is known?

Sharon runs hillary-clintons-voice.com. You don't think she is known?

We at Hillary Green Mountain, allied with some of Bill's top field managers, are known and our phoners are some of the most prolific in the nation.

Carla Rossi was right in all the middle of Philaadelphia, on the videos right behind Hillary, and worked like a demon with Chad David, one of our key websters and who worked the Pa and Indiana ground support also.

We are not falling for the "wait till a more propitious day". You begin when you must, when you can. We offer leadership, example, but you are Americans who can think for yourself.

There will be a collapse within the party at the county and state level as the numbers build of de-registrations. Trust me, these lower level people will panic when they find out they have no one in their pocket any more.

Hillary voters were heavily the core of the Democratic party. The AA's were called "the base" but it was us "bitter, ordinary" voters who were the base.

Without us they have a coalition of the vain and race-baiters, the delirious and the arrogant. They have no party without Hillary's voters.

We will go to the voting booth with a pen in November if need-be. We aren't leaving Hillary. We are moving to higher ground, reconstituting ourselves for the final onslaught that will devastate this Fraud and the apparatus he has bought.

[SugnSpicesmom]

I think a mass defection is exactly what we need. But honestly, the mass defection has to be because Democratic voters are disgusted with how the DNC is running the party and because of the slip-shod way it has dealt with the FL/MI debacle. It shouldn't matter who you are supporting - Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama - you should be PISSED at how the DNC has handled the whole thing. So, we need to encourage an en masse of all Democrats, regardless of who they are supporting.

We don't want to look like a bunch of sore losers who are pissed because Hillary lost the nomination (IF THAT HAPPENS!!). We want to the DNC to know we are pissed because they are a bunch of knuckleheads that have their heads up their asses and need to step down!!!

So, that being said - when's an effective time to defect? Now, the first week of June, or right before the National Convention? I don't mind trying to spearhead the effort of this but we need to decide on an exact date.

Shyfire has a drive going to defect 1-8 June. The two of us worked up the letter for that. It is geared towards Hillary supporters but could be changed. And actually, I've been thinking that a long drawn out letter isn't going to cut it. I think it needs to be a short, sweet, concise note that basically says, "The DNC sucks, we've had it, here's our voter registration cards." Much more effective now that I've had time to think about it.

So......can we decide on a date and go from there? Like I said, I'll spearhead the effort but will need some help!

[samkm]

I agree with Bernie G. Starting today though makes a lot of sense to me.

[SoCal4Hillary]

I'm [honestly!] not trying to be argumentative, but I don't feel like I'm being heard. I have EVERY INTENTION of leaving the Dem party. But mailing our forms TODAY will only result in making it look like we're bailing from the party because Hillary wins TOMORROW's primaries. Just because we MAIL them today doesn't mean they're going to be RECEIVED and/or PROCESSED today. In fact, they'll arrive after Hillary has wins tomorrow. How does that look? Or does no one but me think that's important?

[Bella]

I'm so bummed. In Cook County you don't delcare party. Basically you show up on primary day and ask for a D or R ballot.

HOWEVER..I will still call on the go ahead day and ask how I switch from Democrat to Republican. Anyone else that has open primaries that don't need to declare on voter card, do it too.

[jdona]

I contacted the state board of elections here in Virginia. This is for Virginia voters. We do not register by party affiliations here in this state it turns out. That is why we have open primaries. I downloaded the letter from the website, http://www.myspace.com/operation_independent. I am modifying the letter to reflect that although we don't register by party here, I have been a loyal, faithful Democratic voter for 34 years, have contributed to the campaigns of Wesley Clark, Jim Webb and Hillary Clinton, but I am now refusing to endorse any candidate or support any candidate that has backed Obama, and will no longer support the DNC as well. My mom is also a lifelong Democrat, she is 79, I'm sending a letter to them in her name as well. From the website it is supposed to be mailed in the week of June 1 - June 8, but I think we should move that date up. From what I read, Obama plans to publicly claim the nomination on May 21, after Oregon. I think we need to send the letters and switch our party the same day or the day after. And we need to do it by the millions. PS: I'm new here, but I post mostly on ABC, Fox and hillaryclinton.com. So hi, y'all.

[samkm]

I dont understand waiting.. for horse to leave the barn.

You are leaving anyway.. so, let them not give it to BO. Let them know your outrage.. After you de-register and mail, call DNC.

[jerseygirl7]

MAKE SURE YOUR TIMING ON THESE EFFORTS TO LEAVE THE PARTY DO NOT DISCOURAGE HILLARY OR HER CAMPAIGN PEOPLE. JUNE IS BETTER TIMING THAN MAY. just my 2 cents...


I agree that June is better timing - immediately following the last primary.

It doesn't look like write-ins will have an impact so a vote for McCain it will be! If it is not going to help Hillary, I don't want to do a write in that only benefits Obama.

It will only be for four years (ugh) - hopefully time will pass quickly and with not too much more damage to the economy, the environment, the Supreme Court - ugh, I have to stop there.

Hoping for a landslide win in West Virginia tomorrow.

[LetsHelpAmerica]

As soon as my vote is officially counted on May 20th, here in Oregon, I a have my card all filled out to switch to INDEPENDENT!!
This is a closed primary so have to remain as a democrat to vote for Hillary. But, then we need MASS movement for Independent registration!!

[ahorner]

The Democratic Party is taking sides, and the men of the party are joining the men of the media to give the nomination to Obama.

They are sadly, and tragically, mistaken if they think we will vote for Obama!!
And I don't know anyone that is going to...

We vote McCain, and count on the Democratic congress to prevent radical judges for the Supreme Court, and we wait for 2012.

McCain will be a one term president anyway.

[bernie gagliano]

Just filled in my Registration form on-line, printed it out, dated and signed it and took it to the post office and mailed it to OC County registrar in Santa Ana. Everyone in California can do the same. It takes about 5 minutes total.
(postage is now $.41)

"Decline to State" is my new voter status.

I will be going to the polls in November as a Hillary supporter. Pen in hand if necessary. I vote my brain and my conscience always, and in 2008 there is only one choice, Hillary Clinton. It was that way on Super Tuesday, and it remains so more than ever.

I will continue to work for Hillary all day and evening every day until the primaries end and then see what happens.

Please think what you must do to help Hillary now.

De-registering is now a duty. Phoning will ensure her popular vote count will be at maximums, and she needs every vote. Do both.

It will make you feel like you just took a wonderful shower washing the filth of the Party off you.

[d55may]

This is my first post. I can't sleep because I'm so angry at how the DNC is treating Hillary. I am beyond livid over their blatant manipulation of the nomination. Obviously, they think we are idiots and can't see what they're doing. Sometimes, I wonder if they're just trying to get her voters out there to vote. I wish that were the case. But taking things at face value, it seems they are hell bent on sabbotaging her campaign and it's made me physically sick and depressed. I cannot believe the abuse this woman is having to take just to race with the good ol' boys. If Hillary does not get the nomination, I will hold the Democratic Party responsible for our loss, and I will never EVER support or vote for another democratic candidate again, unless of course it's Hillary. In any event, I will make certain that I am registered as an Independent.

I thought I was being overly emotional when I got sick last week when watching Obama on TV cutting down Hillary once again, while he sticks his nose in the air looking down on all of us Hillary supporters. Thinking he'll woe us over with his rheotic and vacant policy promises.

[Disfranchised]

Florida voter registration application online.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regtovote/webappform.pdf

[d55may]

Listen, I think the DNC has made up it's mind - it's going to put Obama up as the Democratic nominee. No doubt about it happening - he's the golden boy and he is their choice. I have a theory as to why but am not ready to disclose that just yet. Soon though!!

Anyway, I think a mass defection is exactly what we need. But honestly, the mass defection has to be because Democratic voters are disgusted with how the DNC is running the party and because of the slip-shod way it has dealt with the FL/MI debacle. It shouldn't matter who you are supporting - Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama - you should be PISSED at how the DNC has handled the whole thing. So, we need to encourage an en masse of all Democrats, regardless of who they are supporting.

We don't want to look like a bunch of sore losers who are pissed because Hillary lost the nomination (IF THAT HAPPENS!!). We want to the DNC to know we are pissed because they are a bunch of knuckleheads that have their heads up their asses and need to step down!!!

So, that being said - when's an effective time to defect? Now, the first week of June, or right before the National Convention? I don't mind trying to spearhead the effort of this but we need to decide on an exact date.

Shyfire has a drive going to defect 1-8 June. The two of us worked up the letter for that. It is geared towards Hillary supporters but could be changed. And actually, I've been thinking that a long drawn out letter isn't going to cut it. I think it needs to be a short, sweet, concise note that basically says, "The DNC sucks, we've had it, here's our voter registration cards." Much more effective now that I've had time to think about it.

So......can we decide on a date and go from there? Like I said, I'll spearhead the effort but will need some help!

I think this is a excellent idea, it sure would show those pundits and the DNC that we mean business. This election was fixed in flavor of Obama from the begining. I think it would be better to de registar after May 20th. This would send a clear message to the DNC that we are serious about not voting for him.

[jdona]

If anyone has Donna Brazille's address can you post that too? I'd like to copy her on the letter and let her know that although she would like for us Clinton Supporters to sit home in November, we don't intend too, and I also would like to contact Mayor Brown and let him know us "old dinosaurs" of the Democratic Party still have a vote, a voice, and we are PISSED! I was never so insulted in my life as I was when he said that. So tomorrow it is. How are we going to know how many of us have actually defected? I hope it is in the millions, but who will be reporting the actual numbers?

[jdona]

I thought about not sending it until after June 3, but once I read that Obama was going to declare victory on May 21, I figured it was better to send it now to try and head that off. Once he publicly announces he is the candidate, then what recourse does Hillary have? That worries me the most.

[Soren]

I called two offices to re-register. LA Democratic something or other and 800-815-2666 <-- creepy number for the Dems. Anyway, neither woman who answered could have cared less that I am un-registering. I simply said I was un-registering (I gave no reason) and they said oh. Not why or won't you consider. Nothing. Just oh.

Great!

They say to go to the Post Office and that will be the quickest way. We have a vote coming up very soon and were I to do this by mail it would not happen soon enough.

So: TO THE POST OFFICE FOR ME TOMORROW. It will be refreshing not to be a Democrat any more. I hadn't realized how much of a burden it was, voting all these years for people just because they were Democrats. Now I can vote for people whom I think are decent human beings - if any of the latter ever run again.

[lynfreedom]

I think one of the points of doing it now is that DNC will not think we are just pissed about Hillary not getting it. If we do it now, they cannot blame it on her. If we do it then, it will look like it is her fault for letting it drag out and getting us all upset.

I had wondered to begin with, however, the more I thought about it, I realized Bernie is right. It needs to be done today. Even thought I downloaded a form, I still have to wait to see if I am going to be an alternate to the TX state convention. If I can ever get a straight answer from them, I will send it. If there is a chance I can be a delegate, I will wait until after convention.

Everyone please do this for her.

Wait if you still have to vote, wait if you have to be a delegate, wait only if necessary.

[Lynne]

Stop.....This signals that even Clinton supporters do no believe in her anymore.

This will hurt her. This provides them the proof they want to show that Clinton is divisive.

It looks like we are already whining about losing. But we are still in the game.

It seems more people are joining the forum. They are looking for answers on how to keep going not on how to quit.

look at this site
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/09/clinton-supporters-send-l_n_100979.html

[Ijane]

I love this and I support this 100%!! Have a few questions for you, Bernie.

First, I'd just like to restate that anyone whose state hasn't had their primary yet, do not de-register until AFTER your state primary is over.

1. Wouldn't registering as a Republican as opposed to an Independent send more of a message to the DNC?

2. Up until recently, I never thought I had it in me to vote Republican if Senator Clinton didn't get the nomination. My plan was to stay home and not vote. Well, that's changed in a big way for me. If obama should steal the nomination, I will vote McCain to help keep obama out of the White House. I can't write in Hillary Clinton's name on our Michigan ballot unless she registers to be a written in. If I do it anyway, my ballot will thrown out and I won't have used the opportunity to cast a vote towards keeping obama out. How do you have another perspective?

3. I'd like to blog this but I first want your permission before I do so.

[Renee in Florida]

Stop.....This signals that even Clinton supporters do no believe in her anymore.

This will hurt her. This provides them the proof they want to show that Clinton is divisive.


The Dems know the Independent party is the future. The DNC courts Independents. We need to help Hillary and her argument about winning the General Election. It is only reported in MSM that Hillary supporters may not vote for OBAMA. Lets send a message LOUD AND CLEAR , but not 3 weeks from now today, tomorrow, this week. We DO not recognize the current Democratic party and their spinlesss corrupt hitmen called Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, DEAN, Richardson, Dodd, , Edwards. Leave the Democratic party to Independent NOW!!!

[Mysticaltravlr]

I registered Independant because I refuse to have some fat cat delegate cast a vote for a candidate I was never behind. Now we have super delegates to get behind a candidate I was never for. :mad:

I hate to think they are being bought but why else would they back an incompetent person, much less someone who hates the US.

[indigo]

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=397

may be the only way to get the dnc's attention

[lalene]

yes! everyone.. don't let parties define who you are! please register as an independent !!!!!!!!!!!! plus, the DNC is a disgrace.

[Soaring Eagle]

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=397

may be the only way to get the dnc's attention

If Hillary does lose the nomination, i am switching to Republican. The further i am away from this democratic party the better!

[samkm]

If Hillary does lose the nomination, i am switching to Republican. The further i am away from this democratic party the better!

Call DNC and let them know. They are fast becoming the unDemocratic party. Ask to talk with the FL and MI person.. and let them know the linkage to that as well.

[JOY TO THE WORLD]

Contacted DNC yesterday and stated my opposition to Obama and the DNC leadership. I told the secretary that I will be voting for McCain in November if Hillary is not the nominee. Also expressed that if Hillary was on the infamous "undream ticket" I wouldn't vote democrat--since Obama has no experience and can't be trusted.

[JMS825]

I will be a Ind come Nov if Hillary dont win

[smsemedic]

i agree!! i still have to vote in south dakota june 3rd! both my husband and i will join in....but let's pick a date and do it together!!

[Artists4Hillary]

I already have and let the RNC know why.

[AnnaB]

Here's my thinking, I'd like to de-register, but I'd like it to be as dramatic as possible--with (perhaps) millions of other democrats. There is talk that if(yuk), he is the nominee, then the day after the deed is done--that is the day after the convention, we will de-register or register as independents en masse. What say you?

[Soaring Eagle]

Call DNC and let them know. They are fast becoming the unDemocratic party. Ask to talk with the FL and MI person.. and let them know the linkage to that as well.

Will do. I am going to tear up my democratic registration and send it to them as well!

[evolin]

The only thing that bothers me is that despite our actions unless it is with many others Obama could still win the presidency. Is writing her in legal and workable in all, states? If not, we need to make a pact to go McCain.
Obama must not be allowed to win...

[Viktoriya]

One: you cannot begin a mass movement on a date. Never has happened.

Two: if your voter registration is still required, in states not voting yet, or if your party affiliation is connected to being delegate, of course you stay.

Three: the "how does it look?" argument is very, very weak thinking. Staying inside when they have mauled Hillary and spit in our faces and rationalizing that our movement outside the party is damaging to Hillary is ridiculous.

We take our votes in the General Election away from the party and away from the Fraud. We deliver them to Hillary. She is either the nominee or we write her name in.

If you stay, you strengthen their argument that Hillary counts for nothing. He is banking on converting us to his cult.

We are the heart of her campaign. The names of the first de-registrants are well known activists. You are not thinking clearly if you think KittyNC is not known. Her last act in NC was raising $145,000 for Hillary. You don't think she is known?

Sharon runs hillary-clintons-voice.com. You don't think she is known?

We at Hillary Green Mountain, allied with some of Bill's top field managers, are known and our phoners are some of the most prolific in the nation.

Carla Rossi was right in all the middle of Philaadelphia, on the videos right behind Hillary, and worked like a demon with Chad David, one of our key websters and who worked the Pa and Indiana ground support also.

We are not falling for the "wait till a more propitious day". You begin when you must, when you can. We offer leadership, example, but you are Americans who can think for yourself.

There will be a collapse within the party at the county and state level as the numbers build of de-registrations. Trust me, these lower level people will panic when they find out they have no one in their pocket any more.

Hillary voters were heavily the core of the Democratic party. The AA's were called "the base" but it was us "bitter, ordinary" voters who were the base.

Without us they have a coalition of the vain and race-baiters, the delirious and the arrogant. They have no party without Hillary's voters.

We will go to the voting booth with a pen in November if need-be. We aren't leaving Hillary. We are moving to higher ground, reconstituting ourselves for the final onslaught that will devastate this Fraud and the apparatus he has bought.

Agree. I will fight for Hillary till convention and and beyond. Question: beyond? What is the best way to sway votes out of dems?

[PAangelRN]

I think we should start contacting the media about our large group of people that are forming to leave the party. Tell them you are willing to be interviewed.

Tell them why we are leaving. We need to get press time about this on the airwaves!!!!!

[bernie gagliano]

IF YOU ACT NOW, IT HELPS.

Why not wait until after the Inauguration? It would be just as effective as your idea.

We want to get Hillary the nomination.

You, apparently, misunderstand. You have 2 weeks to influence the vote of SD's.

They must see the exodus, they must feel the energy of our protest.

They must clearly understand that they will never win, at any level of campaign if we withhold our votes and select for whom and when we use it.

They would have to nationalize every illegal immigrant in the nation and grant them instant voting rights to make up for our walk-out.

17 million voters don't want their candidate. They can never win without us.

Waiting is like the last Jews in the ghetto hoping the Nazis were not really going to come for them.

Waiting is fear winning over reasoning.

[SugnSpicesmom]

Do NOT write in Hillary's name if she doesn't get the nomination. Do NOT vote for this Barr character that is throwing his hat in the ring running as a Liberatarian. A vote for him takes away a vote for McCain and Obama will win the GE if that happens.

Absolutely, positively (even if it makes you physically ill) VOTE FOR McCAIN should Hillary not get the nomination. You're not deserting your Party!! Your Party has already deserted you!! The minute the started shoving Obama down our throats they were telling every one of us that we don't matter. REALLY DNC? Let's see about that.

You don't have to switch your party to vote for McCain in the GE but it would sure make a hell of a statement if Democrats started mass flooding out of the Party and switching to Republican or even Independent.

[freespirit]

I wrote the DNC yesterday to say that for first time in my life, I chose not to vote. My state held a special election Tuesday, May 13, to select a member of the US House to replace Roger Wicker who was appointed to Trent Lott's Senate seate. I could not bring myself to vote for the Dem candidate, in part because of the way the DNC and Party elites have treated Hillary, and have sat quitely by and allow others to treat a Dem. candidate with such disrespect. Also, the Dem candidate running for the house seat had been endorse by Obama - another reason not to trust the dude. Although I did not vote for the Rep candidate, it was primarily because of the extremely negative campaign he waged. However, as I said in my letter, I will have no problem changing to Rep in November, as I will not be voting for Obama, nor will I refrain from voting. I will support John McCain, vote for him, donate to him - whatever it takes to get him elected. Of course I pointed out many of BO's negatives, and Hillary's positives. Also cited the party's unwillingness to count all of MI and Fl - all of the things we basically already know they have done to try to screw Hillary and ram BO down our throats. I mentioned Donna Brazille, as well, and her false statements that she is underclared S D. She is undeclared in name only, as everyone knows she has supported BO at every opportunity. Further, she has narrowed the definition of democrat - or as she refers to it "new coalition democrat" to include the AA population, the very young and the wealthy elite. By her narrow definition I no longer qualify, and will be leaving the party. I referred to the incompetence and bias of Dean, the disdain I feel for the manner in which Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, (and I wish I had known to include Edwards) and all the others who have abandoned any reason and loyalty to long term Dems, including the Clintons, who have worked for this party.

It felt so damn good, I did not regret it for one second. These scum suckers have taking our money all of these years, then disregarded every letter, email, request for fairness. To hell with them. I still intend to send the letter presented through the forum under "operation independence" and send June 1-8 as the group plans to do. I am so outta here.

[Viktoriya]

IF YOU ACT NOW, IT HELPS.

Why not wait until after the Inauguration? It would be just as effective as your idea.

We want to get Hillary the nomination.

You, apparently, misunderstand. You have 2 weeks to influence the vote of SD's.

They must see the exodus, they must feel the energy of our protest.

They must clearly understand that they will never win, at any level of campaign if we withhold our votes and select for whom and when we use it.

They would have to nationalize every illegal immigrant in the nation and grant them instant voting rights to make up for our walk-out.

17 million voters don't want their candidate. They can never win without us.

Waiting is like the last Jews in the ghetto hoping the Nazis were not really going to come for them.

Waiting is fear winning over reasoning.

Should we campaign (IF, I don’t think that it will come to this. I think Hillary will get the nomination because of all this info that floating around about OB) should we campaign against Democratic Party?

[Renee in Florida]

Should we campaign (IF, I don’t think that it will come to this. I think Hillary will get the nomination because of all this info that floating around about OB) should we campaign against Democratic Party?


Yes if they throw BO down our throats by STEALING the election from Hillary we should do everything we can to destroy the DEMOCRATIC party.

I have already started, Dem for 32 years changed to independent this week. Everyone leave the party now, dont wait for June 3rd.

[joeysky18]

IF YOU ACT NOW, IT HELPS.

Why not wait until after the Inauguration? It would be just as effective as your idea. We want to get Hillary the nomination.

You, apparently, misunderstand. You have 2 weeks to influence the vote of SD's.

After 3.5 months with this forum, I am 100% confident to say that no one here works as hard on volunteer and making the phone call for Hillary as Bernie, Carla, and Sudha.

If these 3 people think the timing is now to defect the party to make the best case for Hillary, I say it is now.

Everyone has to make their own decision. But don't be afraid of taking bold action.

[Renee in Florida]

Already Done. Changed to Independent on May 8th!!!

[SantaCruzen]

I am on board with you all. Please start those engines. I am going to jump on at the end of the Primaries. I am going to donate to HRC until there is nothing left to do. Third Party We Must Do. It is the American Way.


No Voices Left Behind!

[WorkingMommy]

Here is the link for New Jersey Voters:

http://www.njelections.org/forms_doe.html#forms

Just fill it out and send it in the mail.

Just click on Party Affiliation Declarartion Form.

[PrincesseJen]

Is there already an Independent nominee? If not, is there still a vote process to pick the nominee? If so, if she doesn't run as an independent can't we write her name in and make her the nominee without her even running? I believe that there is a higher percentage of Hillary supporters then all Independents combined. If we write her name in she should easily be the nominee. Can you imagine the headlines that she is a nominee after they think she's gone? :D Even if she doesn't agree to be the nominee (which I think under much pressure from her supporters she would) we can still write her name in on the ballot in November. But we ALL must be in this together! Most of us aren't going to vote for Obama so if he is the nominee he has already lost.

Some people are saying if she runs Independent she will lose. I don't think so.

1. If Obama is the nominee the GOP's will be attacking with damaging information. It only goes down hill from there.

2. There are people who have voters remorse for Obama and this would be a chance for them to change they're vote. Also with the damaging info that would come out in the GE a bit more people who supporter him might not anymore.

3. Obama's a horrible debater. It will show when he debates Mccain and people will be kicking themselves wishing Hillary was the nominee. Heck, I think maybe even some Republicans who still don't care for Mccain might be willing to vote for Hillary. Again we ALL NEED TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER!

[Artists4Hillary]

I de-registered and let them know why, so they can use this info against Obama. I said if Hilllary is not the nominee, McCain gets my vote, and under no circumstances will I vote for Obama.

If you let the DNC and the RNC know why, then they will know you have not defected from Hillary, that she is OUR choice.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

I'm Not Waiting Till June 1 To 8 Like Previous Planned - I'm Mailing My Change Tommorrow

[Soren]

After 3.5 months with this forum, I am 100% confident to say that no one here works as hard on volunteer and making the phone call for Hillary as Bernie, Carla, and Sudha.

If these 3 people think the timing is now to defect the party to make the best case for Hillary, I say it is now.

Everyone has to make their own decision. But don't be afraid of taking bold action.

second that. they have been amazing.

I go to the Post Office tomorrow. Dropping out of Dem party. Bye! I follow my principles, not a letter "D".

[samkm]

After you de-register i.e., sign up and drop it off in mail, call DNC and let them know at the main number.. Then, Ask to speak with the FL, MI person and let her know the reason that links to FL and MI.

Let them know the way they can get you back... IF there is such a way. We always have the option of staying outside the party.

[evolin]

I talked to one of my Florida daughters this evening and mentioned our effort to go independent. She was in to it immediately for she is sick of the democratic party. She will call them tomorrow and have them send her an application to change her status from Democrat to undeclared status. I will also do so too as I am also sick of the democratic party.
My daughter is in touch with another group down there who are making calls etc. and hopefully we can spread the word nationwide to every state and every countyseat and have democrats withdraw from this corrupt party.
We must stop this corronation!!
My daughter told me "It does not matter how many votes Hillary gets, they just keep trying to take the nomination from her." She will also write J. Edwards. He wrote her too.
I have had some problems lately with eye surgery and a sister died....her funeral today.... but I will try to resume calling to Oregon if I can manage.

[mjoynaples]

thanks please confirm getting ready!!!!

[lynfreedom]

thanks please confirm getting ready!!!!

I think Bernie was saying do it now. We need to do before they have the committee meet...and the sooner the better

[Musicdude]

I like the idea of voter-revolt. The weird and rude emails from DNC people and the Supers make it additionally compelling. So, when does all this get blogged, and emailed to MSM? I would think the RNC would want to recruit - and most importantly make their own public announcements about this phenomenon.

there was an Obama pundit on cable news saying that Obama will draw in enough republicans to counteract Democrats who refuse to vote for Obama. Sounds like they are trying to get ahead of the public relations game on these rumors. Without the RNC promoting the cause, who else can campaign this issue in the media? The effort needs some heavyweight backing to truly be widespread, notorious and effective. If it's perceived as just a band of "discontents", then it will be discounted and ignored. So what's the plan on this?

[PrincesseJen]

I like the idea of voter-revolt. The weird and rude emails from DNC people and the Supers make it additionally compelling. So, when does all this get blogged, and emailed to MSM? I would think the RNC would want to recruit - and most importantly make their own public announcements about this phenomenon.

there was an Obama pundit on cable news saying that Obama will draw in enough republicans to counteract Democrats who refuse to vote for Obama. Sounds like they are trying to get ahead of the public relations game on these rumors. Without the RNC promoting the cause, who else can campaign this issue in the media? The effort needs some heavyweight backing to truly be widespread, notorious and effective. If it's perceived as just a band of "discontents", then it will be discounted and ignored. So what's the plan on this?

LOL!! Oh yes Republicans are gonna come flocking to the candidate that is extremely liberal. He's gotta be kidding! :D

[carmaken]

This was per another thread. But I'll do it today. (Also, because of the way Hillary has been treated, 6 out of 6 people from my immediate family will stay home from the GE if BO gets his way. (My husband is totally turned off). The rebound effect from all of this could be enormous against BO from families all over the country.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

This was per another thread. But I'll do it today. (Also, because of the way Hillary has been treated, 6 out of 6 people from my immediate family will stay home from the GE if BO gets his way. (My husband is totally turned off). The rebound effect from all of this could be enormous against BO from families all over the country.

please don't sit home during the general election, please vote for someone for two reasons, one we can't let the wrong democrat get in the w.h. and ruin the country, second we have to make statement to the dnc and media that they can't force a candidate down our throats.

we the people will choose who we want.

hillary 2008-2016

[kyforhillary]

I am in Kentucky, and after I go to state convention on June 7 and vote for Hillary delegate, I am gone. Also, I am democratic chairperson of our county, whether that means anything to them or not, I don't give a flying fig. Also, the ones endorsing here in Ky will sorely regret it come next election time, if I have anything to do with it.

[PrincesseJen]

There is no such thing as "the Independent Party". You're unaffiliated.

There will be when we're finished. :D

[ShyFire]

There is no such thing as "the Independent Party". You're unaffiliated.

Actually, there are many, many parties... and several 'independent' parties.

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm

[ShyFire]

Don't forget- mass defection from the DNC on June 1-8!

http://www.myspace.com/operation_independent

[Florida Dawn]

when the Lady in the Pantsuit tells me she is no longer running. Then hubby and I become non-party affiliated, cut up our former Dum-o-crat voter registration cards and send them to Howard Dean! We may even film the ceremony and send it to the MSM---not that they'd show it. Maybe Fox might.

I stay until Hillary says I need to leave. And even though I know she will rally the party, we've been screwed by the Dum-o-crats for the LAST time.

Let 'em get the Starbucks generation to help 'em. Let 'em get all those "Caucus states" to help 'em. They don't need Florida, right? They don't need middle-aged folk, right? They don't need the folk who have supported the party for 30+ years, right? They can all kiss my Former Dum-o-crat A*s when the time comes. But not until Hil says it's time.

And Hillary, I love you, but I will NEVER vote for FLUFFY. NEVER. I've had a taste of the best, nothing else will satisfy. And my soon-to-be-80 year old mother and working class husband feel the same way.

HILLARY FOREVER!
Florida Dawn
A Soon-to-be-Former-Dum-o-crat

PS:Please don't try to change my mind, anyone, about "the good of the county" the "good of the party", the "good of the children". THOSE DOGS DON'T HUNT! NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. And, o yes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY?

[ShyFire]

Right on, Sister!


when the Lady in the Pantsuit tells me she is no longer running. Then hubby and I become non-party affiliated, cut up our former Dum-o-crat voter registration cards and send them to Howard Dean! We may even film the ceremony and send it to the MSM---not that they'd show it. Maybe Fox might.

I stay until Hillary says I need to leave. And even though I know she will rally the party, we've been screwed by the Dum-o-crats for the LAST time.

Let 'em get the Starbucks generation to help 'em. Let 'em get all those "Caucus states" to help 'em. They don't need Florida, right? They don't need middle-aged folk, right? They don't need the folk who have supported the party for 30+ years, right? They can all kiss my Former Dum-o-crat A*s when the time comes. But not until Hil says it's time.

And Hillary, I love you, but I will NEVER vote for FLUFFY. NEVER. I've had a taste of the best, nothing else will satisfy. And my soon-to-be-80 year old mother and working class husband feel the same way.

HILLARY FOREVER!
Florida Dawn
A Soon-to-be-Former-Dum-o-crat

PS:Please don't try to change my mind, anyone, about "the good of the county" the "good of the party", the "good of the children". THOSE DOGS DON'T HUNT! NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. And, o yes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY?

[BooskerD]

I live in Wisconsin and I've never had to declare my party affiliation. However, my partner and I have given generously to local democratic candidates over the years, to the point where our phone number has been passed around and we get several pleas for financial donations a week. Tammy Baldwin is still supporting Hillary as far as I know, but since Obama won this state over Hllary, I imagine Baldwin is under pressure to "flip" and I fully expect that she will.

My plan is this- if Hillary should lose the nomination, the very next time that phone rings and Russ Feingold or Tammy Baldwin or any of the countless other dems come begging for money...then, I will tell them that I am sickened by the way the DNC handled the nomination process and I will announce that I am no longer affiliated with the democratic party. Take me off your g.d. list, please.

[Karee Wyoming]

if we mass defect now it will tell the dnc that they should go with obama as we are leaving anyway. we need to wait and be sure hillary is not the nominee. then, the second the dnc says obama is official, then we mass defect. we dont know what effect going now will have. it may hurt hillary. she is saying she holds the working class DEMOCRATS if we all leave, then she does not hold power in the party where she needs it right now. please wait until we know one way or the other what the end result of this primary election is. then we can set a date and let them know. hillary is still in talks with the supers and she needs us to be in the party to hold her support up. as independents we will not have sway behind her as much.
I mailed mine to H.Dean yesterday, thier is no point in puttting it off - After the Edwards fisasco last night I am sure they will never give Hillary the full delegates and Popular vote she earned in Fla & Mich , they want thier pound of flesh, they have to show that no one in the party can get away with this. Donna B (Gonzila ) has been beating this drumbeat all week (the rules are the rules!!!) The DNC and all of the extreme left wing nuts are convinced that O-Bama can get enough votes from the AA, new young voters to make up for the loss of the true democrats (White middle class americans)
they are in for a big surprise as they think because Hillary will get behind O-Bama that we will - not this one -I will vote for McCain . I am done with the party and will be calling my state election board today to get the forms to change to independent!!! My husband is holding off, so if you decide the mass defection all at once would be better, he will do his at that time!!!!
I just cannot stay a member of this corrupt party another day!!!

[Karee Wyoming]

This was per another thread. But I'll do it today. (Also, because of the way Hillary has been treated, 6 out of 6 people from my immediate family will stay home from the GE if BO gets his way. (My husband is totally turned off). The rebound effect from all of this could be enormous against BO from families all over the country.

Please everybody do not stay home or do a write in for Hillary, this will only help O-Bama get elected - voting for John McCain is the only way to stop O-Bama , do not forget we still have Nader and Bob Barr just announced yesterday he will be running as a libertarian and the O-Bama camp are counting on those two spoilers to take votes away from McCain.

I would like nothing better than a write in for Hillary or just stay home, I am so disgusted , but I know in my heart voting for McCain is the only way to stop O Bama , I left the dem party today and am now a independent so I will hold my nose and do it in Nov.

[PrincesseJen]

Please everybody do not stay home or do a write in for Hillary, this will only help O-Bama get elected - voting for John McCain is the only way to stop O-Bama , do not forget we still have Nader and Bob Barr just announced yesterday he will be running as a libertarian and the O-Bama camp are counting on those two spoilers to take votes away from McCain.

I would like nothing better than a write in for Hillary or just stay home, I am so disgusted , but I know in my heart voting for McCain is the only way to stop O Bama , I left the dem party today and am now a independent so I will hold my nose and do it in Nov.

Sorry, I don't see how writing her name in will help Obama. Most of us aren't going to vote for him anyway so he would lose either way. Also this would make a great statement.

[samkm]

This thread is about de-registration. Please stay on topic. If you have completed voting and you are sick of the party, proceed to de-register and call DNC to let them know we are outraged (and the reasons) and we have de-registered.. and will come back only if (your conditions). It is a democracy and our voices need to be heard and counted.

MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY VOTED, THIS IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY IT WILL BE HEARD RIGHT NOW.

[justme819]

Is there already an Independent nominee? If not, is there still a vote process to pick the nominee? If so, if she doesn't run as an independent can't we write her name in and make her the nominee without her even running? I believe that there is a higher percentage of Hillary supporters then all Independents combined. If we write her name in she should easily be the nominee. Can you imagine the headlines that she is a nominee after they think she's gone? :D Even if she doesn't agree to be the nominee (which I think under much pressure from her supporters she would) we can still write her name in on the ballot in November. But we ALL must be in this together! Most of us aren't going to vote for Obama so if he is the nominee he has already lost.

Some people are saying if she runs Independent she will lose. I don't think so.

1. If Obama is the nominee the GOP's will be attacking with damaging information. It only goes down hill from there.

2. There are people who have voters remorse for Obama and this would be a chance for them to change they're vote. Also with the damaging info that would come out in the GE a bit more people who supporter him might not anymore.

3. Obama's a horrible debater. It will show when he debates Mccain and people will be kicking themselves wishing Hillary was the nominee. Heck, I think maybe even some Republicans who still don't care for Mccain might be willing to vote for Hillary. Again we ALL NEED TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER!

You make a good case...many Hillary supporters agree with you...that includes me...so i`ll add my voice to yours here...and strengthen an already strong case.

I`ve already sent 3 e-mails to Hillary and Garin to run as an, 'Ind. leaning Dem.', or I-Dem and a case for it...altho, by no means the entire case...here`s part of the reasoning...

In a recent poll, respondents were asked if they wanted a Dem, nom. to win the GE or a Repub. nom. to win the GE?...RESULTS: Dem. Nom. wins 50%-32%.

Since this poll was taken after McCain won the presumptive nom., we see that he gets only 32% without any Hillary and BO voters saying that they would vote for him...like they undoubtedly do in the head-to-head match-ups!

what this would essentially mean is that Hillary would win most of the large blue states, McCain would win most of the large red states, and BO would win a few of each - probably small states - while finishing 3rd...the real contest would be between Hillary and McCain for the Swing states...the winner there would probably be our next Pres.

This is also based on what i believe to be extremely inflated nos. for BO`s pop. vote totals...skewed as such by all those red caucus states he won with an avg. of a 4% turn-out supposedly reflecting the views of the entire states...this is an extremely flawed process...in which the results are mathematically invalid...as proven by the results of Tex. where BO won the Caucus but lost the state-wide primary!...

Clinton would no doubt win over some of BO`s supporters...as they see BO not winning any big states in state-wide polls in this 3-way race...leading up to the election...BO`s supporters are more likely to bolt 1st as the far left, the AA community, etc., see McCain much further across the political spectrum than Hillary supporters do which account a great deal for why so many more are willing to vote for McCain than BO`s supporters...in other words, BO supporters are much more afraid of McCain winning than Hillary supporters are!...and, as has been pointed out many times in this forum, THERE ARE NO CAUCUSES IN THE GE!!!

IMHO, she`s got a better chance of winning the Presidency in a 3-way race than winning the Dem. nom. at this point!

One other factor almost forces Hillary to run for Pres. this election cycle...her angering the far left by simply quoting the AP article which stated that BO is losing support among white voters again...has ALL them saying that they WON`t vote for Hillary in future elections...besides, there`s likely to be other far left candidates going up against her in future elections...another thing is that the Repub. party/nom. will probably never be this weak...in an election cycle again...in our life-time...if there was ever a time for a Dem. Ind. - Hillary - to win the Presidency, it`s this election cycle!

i sent this info to Garin using the links he said to use to send feedback...and the link in the other e-mail he sent to give feedback about his, 'fair play', op-ed article...and then sent additional data to Hillary as part of a HAPPY MOTHER`S DAY message!

It`s clear that I can`t convince them alone...and that a petition is needed to send thru either these same links or other links!

Of course, I`m no expert and can`t be sure of all this...but, IMHO, if Hillary can`t win the Dem. nom., she has no choice but to run as an Ind. Dem...if she ever wants a legit shot at the Presidency!

just my thoughts subject to change at any moment! :D :cool:

[ShyFire]

I don't think she'll run as an Independent. She is and always will be a public servant- it's her life! If she were to switch to Independent during this election season- the press, the pundits, the GOP and the DNC will say- "See- she will do ANYTHING to get elected" and her career would be in peril- especially if she wasn't successful in getting elected. Just my 2c on that.. even though I wish it could be done!

Looking at the numbers posted above re: Dem vs GOP- with McCain garnering only 32% of the national vote- it is painfully apparent that disenfranchised Dems and Independents will have to vote for him IN ORDER TO BEAT OBAMA, IF he is the nominee. Writing in Hillary- as noble as it sounds (except, I think more polls are electronic these days- no writing, at all unless done by absentee mail in ballot?)- it will not help keep Obama out of the WH. We might just have to hold our noses and do it- to save our country! At least McCain isn't all right wing- he's pretty much a centrist. Again, my 2c.

[PrincesseJen]

I don't think she'll run as an Independent. She is and always will be a public servant- it's her life! If she were to switch to Independent during this election season- the press, the pundits, the GOP and the DNC will say- "See- she will do ANYTHING to get elected" and her career would be in peril- especially if she wasn't successful in getting elected. Just my 2c on that.. even though I wish it could be done!

Looking at the numbers posted above re: Dem vs GOP- with McCain garnering only 32% of the national vote- it is painfully apparent that disenfranchised Dems and Independents will have to vote for him IN ORDER TO BEAT OBAMA, IF he is the nominee. Writing in Hillary- as noble as it sounds (except, I think more polls are electronic these days- no writing, at all unless done by absentee mail in ballot?)- it will not help keep Obama out of the WH. We might just have to hold our noses and do it- to save our country! At least McCain isn't all right wing- he's pretty much a centrist. Again, my 2c.

The fact she is a public servant is reason enough for her go Independent. She serves her country no one party. I think she'll do it if we pressure he enough to. And as far as the pundits go, they are already saying she'll do anything to win so what would be different? A way to counter act that would be to make a video with Clinton supporters bringing awareness about the defection. We can clearly state it's nobodies fault except the DNC. Our party was already divided. I actually have a good dialoge written up in my mind if we were to make such a video. :D :cool:

[UpstateNYRN]

This is a brilliant move and a sure way to make the statement that we are serious. Excellent thinking! I am at this time a registered Independent and a fearless fighter for Hillary.

[justme819]

I agree that she`s already getting beat up by the media and everyone else it seems!

i keep imagining such a 3-way race...it would go down as the most historic Pres. election in history...an AA, (race), vs. a woman, (sex), vs. an older guy, (age)...

i think it would make for such an awesome election...can you imagine the debates?...BO stinks at debates!...Hillary and McCain could go after each other...while taking time out to beat up on BO...who, as we all know, is lost with-out a tele-prompter and/or a good speech-writer!...or maybe Hillary and BO would beat up together on McCain...with Hillary having to cover for BO`s twisted, tied-up tongue...while he awkwardly tries to defend some policies which he stole from Hillary`s platform!...

Imo, it would be classic...and drama at it`s best...

i think America would come out the winner in this...if only because it would surely keep BO from the White House!...

she and her campaign have surely considered this by now...and no doubt at this point, everything`s still out on the table...one thing is certain regardless of what direction they take...Hillary will have my absolute support...in it to win it to the very end!

Hillary...08!!!

Now...off to win Ken. by as HUGE a margin as possible...and on to a game-changing win in Ore.!

[Karee Wyoming]

I don't think she'll run as an Independent. She is and always will be a public servant- it's her life! If she were to switch to Independent during this election season- the press, the pundits, the GOP and the DNC will say- "See- she will do ANYTHING to get elected" and her career would be in peril- especially if she wasn't successful in getting elected. Just my 2c on that.. even though I wish it could be done!

Looking at the numbers posted above re: Dem vs GOP- with McCain garnering only 32% of the national vote- it is painfully apparent that disenfranchised Dems and Independents will have to vote for him IN ORDER TO BEAT OBAMA, IF he is the nominee. Writing in Hillary- as noble as it sounds (except, I think more polls are electronic these days- no writing, at all unless done by absentee mail in ballot?)- it will not help keep Obama out of the WH. We might just have to hold our noses and do it- to save our country! At least McCain isn't all right wing- he's pretty much a centrist. Again, my 2c.
That was my point! If we write in Hillary, yes we will make a statement to DNC but our vote would be moot!! Maybe I am missing something but if we do not give John McCain our vote, how can we expect him to defeat O-Bama - I too wish with all my heart Hillary would run as a Independent but she is so loyal to the democratic party even tho they have treated her so unfairly. I hope with the de-register letter to Dean and his cronies will make a bigger impact, but everybody needs to do what they think best - this is a free country.

[ShyFire]

That was my point! If we write in Hillary, yes we will make a statement to DNC but our vote would be moot!! Maybe I am missing something but if we do not give John McCain our vote, how can we expect him to defeat O-Bama - I too wish with all my heart Hillary would run as a Independent but she is so loyal to the democratic party even tho they have treated her so unfairly. I hope with the de-register letter to Dean and his cronies will make a bigger impact, but everybody needs to do what they think best - this is a free country.


Agreed. We'll see where the polls sit IF it comes down to that (I'm still hanging on to Hillary to pull it off but, IF)- and it looks like a tight race between O and J- we will have to get together and vote McCain to keep O OUT!

[Jayling]

I am now officially a proud member of the Independent Party.
There is no such thing as "the Independent Party". You're unaffiliated.
Kitty knows exactly what she is. She is no longer a supporter of the Democratic Party and will use her Independent voice and resources to support the best candidates, no matter the affiliation.

J.

[Meg]

I today, officially became an Independent.:cool:

[PrincesseJen]

I think the new party should be called "Moderate Independents".

[smsemedic]

it will be june 4th for me!!!
or perhaps, after i vote on the 3rd....
my husband and i are excited to leave the party!

BTW...o'reily's show tonight is about Hillary supporters going indy and leaving the party!
thanks for the motivation bernie!!!

[SugnSpicesmom]

Unless you want Obama to get elected in November you have to vote for McCain. No writing in of Hillary because that just takes votes away from McCain. Hillary could not possibly get enough votes to win (although it would be HILARIOUS if somehow she did). Voting for anyone other than McCain will absolutely result in Obama being elected.

This country cannot afford to have him anywhere near the office of President. So, PLEASE do not stay home, do not vote for Barr (Republican), do not write Hillary in. Vote for McCain and that will ensure Obama is defeated!!!

[carmaken]

This thread is about de-registration. Please stay on topic. If you have completed voting and you are sick of the party, proceed to de-register and call DNC to let them know we are outraged (and the reasons) and we have de-registered.. and will come back only if (your conditions). It is a democracy and our voices need to be heard and counted.

MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY VOTED, THIS IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY IT WILL BE HEARD RIGHT NOW.

Just to get a consensus of what we should do. The most impact can be made by sheer numbers of people doing the same thing. Thanks! (I did not mean to start a discussion on staying home from the GE---sorry!)

[reddirtgirl]

I'm in TX so we already voted but we don't have to register either way but I am definitely going to vote for Hillary and no other democrat just b/c they are a democrat ever again.


I'm with you in Texas, Starr! I've been considering leaving the party for a long time now during this puke-provoking Obamination lovefest. I'm just not sure of the timing. Folks make sense talking about being in the party until Nobama is official, if he's gonna be. Hillary needs us behind her.

But once it's over, I'm outta here! I would love more than anything (except watching President Hillary Clinton take the oath of office!) to show a mass defection felt all the way to Dean's desk! Wonder what the MSM would have to say then?

Registered Democrat since 1971. Sad.

[reddirtgirl]

One: you cannot begin a mass movement on a date. Never has happened.

Two: if your voter registration is still required, in states not voting yet, or if your party affiliation is connected to being delegate, of course you stay.

Three: the "how does it look?" argument is very, very weak thinking. Staying inside when they have mauled Hillary and spit in our faces and rationalizing that our movement outside the party is damaging to Hillary is ridiculous.

We take our votes in the General Election away from the party and away from the Fraud. We deliver them to Hillary. She is either the nominee or we write her name in.

If you stay, you strengthen their argument that Hillary counts for nothing. He is banking on converting us to his cult.



Ok ok ok Bernie, you convinced me! ;) I'm doing it NOW!!

[hillbilly4me]

Thank goodness I never sent my voter registration in back in January! :cool:

New news by noquarte.net 7 27-08

The Donna Brazile - Karl Rove Connection

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/27/the-donna-brazile-karl-rove-connection/#more-3797


Please do all you can to help pass this around on all hillary's website supporters and your friends and family,

There should be no room in our goverment for this corrupted election

[hillbilly4me]

Ok ok ok Bernie, you convinced me! ;) I'm doing it NOW!!


The Donna Brazile - Karl Rove Connection

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/27/the-donna-brazile-karl-rove-connection/#more-3797

These people should have noway in our goverment!And I just want to note that you have to check your states you live in and county if they allow write and in's...Some states are not allowed write in's.

I Think it's best mean while to change your party to unifilliated so you can vote for who you want..So if the democratic Party again mess with Hillary in not letting her on the ballot or mess with her in Denver..Then you can vote McCain...


While you are at it file a compliant to :


http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml#filing

Published in June 2008

Contents:
Introduction
Filing a Complaint
Complaint: Early Stages
Receipt of Complaint
Notice to Respondent
Respondent's Counsel
Commission Action
Case Processing
Initial Vote to Proceed (Reason to Believe)
Early Resolution of Complaint (Pre-Probable Cause Conciliation)
Investigation
General Counsel's Brief
Probable Cause Hearing
Vote on Violations (Probable Cause to Believe)
Resolution of Complaint (Conciliation Agreement)
Complainant's Recourse
Confidentiality
Overview of Process and Applicable Timeframes (CHART)
For More Information


And while you are at it request Obama's birth certificate........Obama will not step forward to show his real birth certificate..The one he had posted on his website was found to be a fraud document.KOS and OBAMA should be held on charges as by law for this fraud of documents. Pass this website link around. of the first link...There you can find noquarters radio link.It rewally good stuff on Obama and DEnver and more evn a chat room as well

[diane]

I still don't feel like I can leave the Party as long as Hillary is my Democratic Senator in NY. Of course I don't consider myself part of the Party, but technically I'm still registered and will remain so as long as Hillary is my Senator.

[hillbilly4me]

They don't believe we won't vote for Ob**A.

They allowed the rape of Hillary by the MSM and said nothing. Many of the operatives of the DNC, and Super Delegates, participated as talking heads.

They have allowed the only truly successful Democratic Presidency in 50 years to be assaulted by Ob**a and the Reagan years lofted above the Clinton prosperity as the preferred model for the future.

They have abandoned Florida voters, again. They have abandoned Michigan voters.

They have called for the end to the campaign for over six weeks, trying to nullify the voters of nine states, Guam and Puerto Rico.

They want a coronation by June, not a convention in late August.

Pelosi and Reid, Dean and the others, traitors to the Clintons, traitors to the party voters, and ultimately discredited leaders, need to see that no one is following them in their travesty of democracy, circa 2008.

They took our money and squandered the 2006 election results, and now they are double-crossing us in this nomination process.

The proper action for any and all Hillary Clinton voters is to de-register from the Democratic party and refuse to support anyone who has not been loyal to the Clintons, or who has not proven their impartiality, or who has not spoken out against the mis-treatment, gender bias, race baiting, and double standards of party officials and the MSM.

There is no grey area to hide in. Neither for a Hillary Clinton supporter and voter or for the swine that lead the party now.

Howard Dean, a proven loser, Donna Brazille, hypocrite extraordinaire, and the legions of piglets we have seen trot their noses over to Ob**a to stick in the rump of the Fraud they want to coronate, deserve a shell of a party to command.

We are the heart and soul, the true majority base, and we have 15 million votes to prove it. We need to leave this cesspool and prevent their sham to become a fact in Denver.

When they see the mass rejection of their leadership we may have Hillary as the candidate of the party.

If that does not work, we will assure the Fraud's defeat in November.

How bad can McCain be? We've survived Bush and Cheney, and we haven't had a good Supreme Court judge who cared about the people since William O. Douglas died. Their arguments are a joke, as their leadership has been.

We leave starting tomorrow. We leave the party and we stand our ground with Hillary. Everyone can vote in the General Election. I will writing her name on the ballot. She is my choice for 2008 and that does not stop when the primaries end in June.

Spread the word. De-register from the Democratic party and stand with Hillary through the General Election.

The steps to de-register are easy. Contact your county clerk of elections.
Get a form or download one from their website, and mail it in. In California the term to put is "Decline to state". Each state has some variation.

Calif: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/english.pdf

Search state and county offices on this site's database: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/overseas/eod.htm?stateId=

Typical Voter Registration Form many states use: http://www.fabnit.com/nvra-update-09-12-06.pdf

One phone call and you get your information and the form if they do not have one on line to download.

Fill it in. Mail it back.

As thousands of others do also, the roar of our actions will attract their attention, finally.

Do not ask permission to rebel against the injustice of the 2008 primary system. Stand up like an American should and leave this disgraceful party.

Our route to the White House for Hillary requires our rebellious action. Anything less will be failure.

It's Obama who is Bush...

McCain went against Bush many many times as did Hillary..Obama went with more on Bushes policy's and voted for them.