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CGP
02-13-2008, 09:11 AM
I certainly am!! Never before has an election led me to have such a strong personal and emotional reaction. I've even been getting into arguments with my partner who supports BO - can you imagine the discussions we have???!! :confused: I am so disturbed by what is going on with the rise of BO fanatacism and the media's destructive and sexist sidelining of Hillary Clinton. I refused to watch CNN last night (or any TV for that matter) as I knew the biased coverage would incense me no end - they get drunk with joy whenever Hillary loses and it makes me livid! So feel free people to VENT in this forum if that's what you need to do! I know I do! It then motivates me to battle on even stronger for Hillary!

Muath
02-13-2008, 12:01 PM
Here's the thing.

Presidents get elected because they tap into that part of us that is emotional.

That's why Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush got elected.

Am I emotional about Hillary's candidacy? you bet. I am passionate about the state of this country, about the plight of the forgotten Middle Class, about the 47 million Americans without healthcare, about Americans abroad who have to say they're Canadian to escape rabid anti-Americanism. I am passionate about a woman's right to choose. I am passionate about respecting the constitution, about protecting civil liberties.

I am emotional about whats at stake. Eight years ago was a time of optimism, we had built that bridge to the 21st century. The bridge was burnt and we regressed. I am passionate about that

I can't bear the idea of us squandering the chance. :(

CandL
02-13-2008, 05:33 PM
I second that...You are expressing exactly how I feel! Please keep up the great work. We must rally more people to help out. Thanks for the inspiration.:)

CandL
02-13-2008, 05:37 PM
Murray, I do the same thing. I refuse to watch the news at times when things are bad (and sometimes when they are good, too, because they find a way to make it bad!) GRR.
I get so angry, I want to throw things at the TV! Privately, I get sad. This is so important and I feel it slipping away. Twice I have given up and then I returned to this forum or the Facebook forum and you guys inspire me to keep on with this fight. We have to keep on! Let's do it and let the others drink the kool-aid!

CGP
02-13-2008, 06:53 PM
CandL and Muath - nice to know that I am not alone in my frustrations!!!!! ;) I agree, we can be rejuvinated and refocus when we draw on each other during times of deflation!

joeysky18
02-13-2008, 10:35 PM
And I'm working my butt off to make it happen.:D

CGP
02-13-2008, 11:48 PM
And I'm working my butt off to make it happen.:D

GREAT!!! ENTHUSIASM is KEY!!

CGP
02-17-2008, 05:10 PM
My partner and I have basically had to agree to not talk about BO/HC together as we always end up arguing!!! He is for BO and I am for HC. Case closed! :mad:

Angelica91
02-17-2008, 06:34 PM
Hi!this is my first post! I am a young girl, I am only seventeen years old, I live in Italy, but I love USA and I love this election...and then this years there is Hillary. Hillary is my hero since I was child. I loved her, I love her and I will always love her!
This is year is very important for me because Hillary is my best dream!
Yes, I live in Italy but with a president as Hillary all the world would be more beautiful!
Everybody says when Obama talks people feel excited, but not for me!
yes he talks very well, but Hillary is one! she's wonderful. and if this election is beautiful there is only a why...because there is Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!

johnny51981
02-17-2008, 07:17 PM
My partner and I have basically had to agree to not talk about BO/HC together as we always end up arguing!!! He is for BO and I am for HC. Case closed! :mad:
My twin sister is for Obama. But I know that she doesn't even pay attention. She is probably wanting him to get the nomination because she thinks he is attractive. She also thought that our caucus was 2 days....just shows you that I got more of the political smarts in that uterus.

I have never felt more emotional about THIS election that I ever have. We need more substance than flash....and Hillary just EXUDES substance and has the plans and policies to back it up.

If you look at the play book, Barrack is going for 1st Down while Hillary's always pushes for the Touchdown.

CGP
03-07-2008, 05:48 PM
Bump.

emmyCA
03-07-2008, 06:09 PM
I laughed, danced, cried hard when Hillary won the 3 states this Tuesday on OH, TX and RI...I couldn't hold myself,,,keep laughing for until now

EH
03-07-2008, 06:30 PM
I laughed, danced, cried hard when Hillary won the 3 states this Tuesday on OH, TX and RI...I couldn't hold myself,,,keep laughing for until now

You're not the only one...up until the polling stations closed I kept saying to myself "What is WRONG with some people out there? How can they be so adamant about supporting someone who sells canned smoke?" Fortunately, voters are starting to see beyond the hype!

Optixmom
03-07-2008, 06:35 PM
When I am watching the Primary results, I react similarly to my husband, an alumni from Virginia Tech, when he is watching the Hokies play a great game of football...I SCREAM FOR JOY AT THE TV! I was literally in tears when she won Ohio! I was a blubbering baby...so very elated that Ohio went her way.

I have never had this much connection to any political candidate in my life. We have so much to gain with her as our next president, and so much to lose if she doesn't gain the nomination.

Shelley
03-07-2008, 06:35 PM
This is the first candidate that I have wanted not just because she would be best for the country, but also because I feel empathy for her, and want it for her as well. For one thing, I am one of those who felt at the time the Bill was president, that it might be better if she was president instead of him.

Then when I recently read her book, I found that we came from a similar background, and although she is a very different kind of person than me in many ways, I could still very much identity with many of her experiences. I too remember various things that I was told women couldn't do. I was in high school protesting about Viet Nam at about the same time she was in law school doing the same, and also campaigned for McGovern, and voted for him as my first vote.

What makes it especially personal for me, though, is that I just quit a job in part because I was passed by for a promotion which was given to a male who I outqualified as much as Hillary outqualifies Barack if not more. I outranked him both in experience and education. If it wasn't in this no man's land situation of American organization, but located in Europe, so not under neither rules, and if I wasn't sort of fed up with the organization for other reasons already, I would have challenged the matter. If Hillary doesn't win this, I will lose all faith in fairness in our world. It sort of feels if someone like her can't make it with the kind of qualification she has, what hope do the rest of us have. I feel toward her situation a bit the same way I did toward mine. Even to the extent that he might be capable of it--as the guy who beat me probably is--he can wait his turn.

And the comment Barack made in the speech where said people wanted him to wait longer and stick around until all the hope was stewed out of him, I found absolutely ageist. So everyone over the age of 50 is devoid of hope, and I suppose only fit to be put out to pasture. It would be one thing if he was actually saying something new that older people like Hillary and myself were too set in our ways to understand. But he is not. In fact I think both Hillary and I are more young at heart than he is.

Be afraid if his hope is really that fragile.

Optixmom
03-07-2008, 06:44 PM
This is the first candidate that I have wanted not just because she would be best for the country, but also because I feel empathy for her, and want it for her as well. For one thing, I am one of those who felt at the time the Bill was president, that it might be better if she was president instead of him.

Then when I recently read her book, I found that we came from a similar background, and although she is a very different kind of person than me in many ways, I could still very much identity with many of her experiences. I too remember various things that I was told women couldn't do. I was in high school protesting about Viet Nam at about the same time she was in law school doing the same, and also campaigned for McGovern, and voted for him as my first vote.

What makes it especially personal for me, though, is that I just quit a job in part because I was passed by for a promotion which was given to a male who I outqualified as much as Hillary outqualifies Barack if not more. I outranked him both in experience and education. If it wasn't in this no man's land situation of American organization, but located in Europe, so not under neither rules, and if I wasn't sort of fed up with the organization for other reasons already, I would have challenged the matter. If Hillary doesn't win this, I will lose all faith in fairness in our world. It sort of feels if someone like her can't make it with the kind of qualification she has, what hope do the rest of us have. I feel toward her situation a bit the same way I did toward mine. Even to the extent that he might be capable of it--as the guy who beat me probably is--he can wait his turn.

And the comment Barack made in the speech where said people wanted him to wait longer and stick around until all the hope was stewed out of him, I found absolutely ageist. So everyone over the age of 50 is devoid of hope, and I suppose only fit to be put out to pasture. It would be one thing if he was actually saying something new that older people like Hillary and myself were too set in our ways to understand. But he is not. In fact I think both Hillary and I are more young at heart than he is.

Be afraid if his hope is really that fragile.

I feel that she is a kindred spirit. It is a weird connection I have with her because I have always been a Republican. I see how hard she works for us here in NY state. We love her! She is a get-things-done kind of woman and I admire her gumption. She doesn't take any crap from anybody! She can debate the best of them and she always can define WHY she votes and works the way she does. She has substance and a strong sense of self.

CGP
03-07-2008, 06:53 PM
I laughed, danced, cried hard when Hillary won the 3 states this Tuesday on OH, TX and RI...I couldn't hold myself,,,keep laughing for until now

I was eqaully elated! Victory was so sweet after all the crap that Hillary and we (her supporters) had endured in the weeks leading up Mar 4th!

CGP
03-07-2008, 06:54 PM
I feel that she is a kindred spirit. It is a weird connection I have with her because I have always been a Republican. I see how hard she works for us here in NY state. We love her! She is a get-things-done kind of woman and I admire her gumption. She doesn't take any crap from anybody! She can debate the best of them and she always can define WHY she votes and works the way she does. She has substance and a strong sense of self.

That's a great statement of support. :)

CGP
03-07-2008, 06:55 PM
This is the first candidate that I have wanted not just because she would be best for the country, but also because I feel empathy for her, and want it for her as well. For one thing, I am one of those who felt at the time the Bill was president, that it might be better if she was president instead of him.

Then when I recently read her book, I found that we came from a similar background, and although she is a very different kind of person than me in many ways, I could still very much identity with many of her experiences. I too remember various things that I was told women couldn't do. I was in high school protesting about Viet Nam at about the same time she was in law school doing the same, and also campaigned for McGovern, and voted for him as my first vote.

What makes it especially personal for me, though, is that I just quit a job in part because I was passed by for a promotion which was given to a male who I outqualified as much as Hillary outqualifies Barack if not more. I outranked him both in experience and education. If it wasn't in this no man's land situation of American organization, but located in Europe, so not under neither rules, and if I wasn't sort of fed up with the organization for other reasons already, I would have challenged the matter. If Hillary doesn't win this, I will lose all faith in fairness in our world. It sort of feels if someone like her can't make it with the kind of qualification she has, what hope do the rest of us have. I feel toward her situation a bit the same way I did toward mine. Even to the extent that he might be capable of it--as the guy who beat me probably is--he can wait his turn.

And the comment Barack made in the speech where said people wanted him to wait longer and stick around until all the hope was stewed out of him, I found absolutely ageist. So everyone over the age of 50 is devoid of hope, and I suppose only fit to be put out to pasture. It would be one thing if he was actually saying something new that older people like Hillary and myself were too set in our ways to understand. But he is not. In fact I think both Hillary and I are more young at heart than he is.

Be afraid if his hope is really that fragile.

A pleasure to read. Thanks for your insights.

CGP
03-07-2008, 06:56 PM
When I am watching the Primary results, I react similarly to my husband, an alumni from Virginia Tech, when he is watching the Hokies play a great game of football...I SCREAM FOR JOY AT THE TV! I was literally in tears when she won Ohio! I was a blubbering baby...so very elated that Ohio went her way.

I have never had this much connection to any political candidate in my life. We have so much to gain with her as our next president, and so much to lose if she doesn't gain the nomination.

I hear ya! You should have heard me when the announced the winner of New Mexico at that ridiculously long press conference! I screamed! And then of course on March 4th, there was a whole lot more joy to be had!

Soren
03-07-2008, 07:06 PM
It is more than experience that Clinton has

~ From experience, she allowed the natural, human generosity and care for the human race to emerge in the forefront of her actions.

~ From experience, she sees the patterns in the detail and the details in the patterns.

~ From experience, she knows the moves between the Executive Branch and Legislative Branches and how to operate with facility and strength in each of them.

~ From experience, she has been given the opportunity, joys and discernment of sitting and speaking personally to world leaders in 80 countries from China to Kosovo, from Africa to South America.

~ From experience, she has developed the muscle to stick to her points of vision in the face of attack.

~ From her experience as a woman, she has learned to endure and move forward in the political arena with grace.

~ From experience, she has dropped her ego and become one with democratic action and the people.

~ From experience, she feels the needs of the people and encourages our wisdom and action in getting the jobs done.

~ From experience, she is oriented to work, and while she’s an intrepid campaigner, the tone of the campaign is always about you, the people, and the work to be done and not about matters tending towards self-glorification.

~ From experience she knows that in her heart it is better to go to the funeral of the young woman in Texas and to visit her friends in New Orleans at the State of the Black Union rather than to abandon them as if to say that family and race questions in America are not of central importance on the agenda of the Presidency. To her, they remain central.

~ From experience, she knew what it was to be the Senator from New York in Washington DC, on the day of and on the day after and in the year after the attack on New York and Washington DC. She was in the position to work towards the defense of the ideals of our country, when we still had ideals, when we still believed in ourselves, as did the world, in a way that Senator Obama will never know because he was still outside Washington.

~ From experience, she saw how that 2002 vote presented one way to her on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee became, one year later, a tool for Bush and Cheney to begin to behave like a cowboys with guns and more guns-- just to throw away like used up toys and leave behind for our enemies to pick up and recover.

~ By the time Barack got to the Senate later, from experience he learned to see himself vote the same way that Senator Clinton did on the ensnarlment of Iraq.

~ From experience, she knows that the pharmaceuticals and insurance companies will slip right through the hole if you stand before them with anything less than a total, 100%, universal plan for them to accept. Give them a hole, and they set the price. You know that from the experience of 15 years of fighting with the big boys.

~ And from our experience we know that if any American allows himself or herself to open for 15 or 30 minutes to a speech or an interview with this great Senator from New York, he or she will begin to recognize how Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton can fill a heart with gratitude, expand knowledge of the fields of action, and fortifies hope and faith.

She's the real thing, and we will do all within our power to allow the whole world to experience her the way we who have allowed her to speak to us do.

Amanda2489
03-07-2008, 07:37 PM
I am very emotional about this election as well. The very first time I ever voted to a elect a president it was for Bill Clinton, that was very emotional because it was a big first for me but at 18 I really didn't realize and understand just how important these elections and voting was. I have hoped and prayed that Hillary would one day run for president ever since she was First Lady. And that time has finally arrived, not only the first woman for president, but THIS woman, Hillary. She is amazing in so many ways. I don't believe there is a more qualified candidate anywhere than Hillary. I feel that with her as president there is hope of this country getting back to a place economically that it was pre-Bush. I am also deeply troubled by the fact that there is no guarantee that she will make it, and if she doesn't I don't know how much more our country can take before it falls completely apart.

smharley for Hillary
03-07-2008, 07:50 PM
You all are saying what I feel. My first vote was for Nixon (his 2nd term). I don't know why I voted for him, I guess because he was already President. Since then I think I have voted as most of us do...close your eyes and pick. But, now, for the first time in my life I am passionate about a candidate. I am donating money, blogging, making phone calls. Maybe I have consumed the "Hillary koolaid"?? No not really, it's because this is a person of substance. This woman is the President of my dreams, we are sooo ready for a strong woman to lead this country. The Obama supporters are crying for "change", they can't see that the real change will be Hillary as President. On March 4th like the rest of you, I cheered, my eyes welled up whenHillary spoke in Ohio and I stayed up until CNN predicted Hillary the winner in Texas. I hate Texas for personal reasons, but I loved them that night. What is it going to take for these poor mislead to see that they are following the wrong one??? YES WE WILL...YES WE MUST

OkieforHRC2008
03-07-2008, 07:56 PM
I take this a bit too personal. It feels like they are constantly picking on Hillary in the media because she is a woman. Calling her a whiner? Then CNN won't post ANY of my comments unless because they aren't pro-Obama comments. I've blogged on sites, and been overrunned by Obaminites as my hubby calls them. I am totally sick of the media placing the supporters of either side in a little box. Oh if you are pro-Hillary then you are a poor, old, and female. If you are pro-Obama then you must be rich, young, and male. No one talks about how vicious Obama's supporters get when you talk about Hillary. I've seen people called names that I'd never seen on blog comments before. I try not to take it personally, but dang... They've trolled nearly every place including hillaryclinton.com

Thanks for letting me vent in an Obama free zone..

~~OkieforHRC2008

Stop the Obamination!

CGP
03-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Great responses!

LetsHelpAmerica
03-07-2008, 08:07 PM
When I see a female candidate as intelligent, gifted, experienced and capable as Senator Clinton and she is treated with such disrespect by the media, it actually
makes my heart ache. It brings to the forefront, the fact that women are so often, not treated as equals but as " second rate ", " second best " , " unworthy " , and all the other adjectives which suggest inferiority.
That is not good, fair, or productive for our country and, most especially, for women.
So, we had better get Hillary elected!

CGP
03-07-2008, 08:09 PM
When I see a female candidate as intelligent, gifted, experienced and capable as Senator Clinton and she is treated with such disrespect by the media, it actually
makes my heart ache. It brings to the forefront, the fact that women are so often, not treated as equals but as " second rate ", " second best " , " unworthy " , and all the other adjectives which suggest inferiority.
That is not good, fair, or productive for our country and, most especially, for women.
So, we had better get Hillary elected!

Second that!

Patsy
03-07-2008, 08:49 PM
My neighbor won't even read the paper anymore. It upsets her so much. Since Bill Clinton, this is the first election where I feel that there is actually a Candidate that I truly agree with and not just a voting of "the lesser of two evils," as is usually the case.

I am dismayed by the amount of anger and vitriol that is spewed by the Obama supporters. I stand by my statement long ago, that it is in fact Senator Obama who is dividing this Country along race and gender lines.

It has become clear to me that we do not have a visionary and yearning Youth, but an angry, entitled and uneducated one.

We used to be able to agree to disagree on issues, but our Youth has turned into spoiled children who can not see the forest for the trees. His supporters dig their heels in and have tantrums and stick their fingers in their ears because they do not want to discuss anything.

I am open to discussion. I wanted to like this Senator from Illinois, but I can never get a definitive answer as to what he stands for. And the more I see of him and his arrogance and sense of entitlement, the less I like.

I love my Country and wish it to be economically sound, respected and taking care of OUR needs. We should be the standard bearer for all the world to see. I respect the Constitution and what it means. I respect our rights to exercise certain freedoms.

If you do not believe in God, then do not sing the National Anthem, that is your right. But to not hold your hand over your heart in the face of the flag of this Great Nation is unconscionable. A long war was fought for us to have the freedoms we have. That Flag represents those freedoms. We can never be disrespectful of this fact.

This has been a disheartening election cycle for me. The disenfranchisement of voters, the complete disdain for anyone who disagrees with that fact and, yes I will say it, the plagiarized words from others. If you wish to be President of this Country, you must be able to speak on your own. He is regurgitating ideas that belong to others as though they were his and our Youth are too young to see this as being an issue. But, I am confident that any Professor they have would disagree on this point if they were to do it.

This Country is going to change no matter who takes over after Bush, but we must be extremely careful in how we choose. Hope alone will not bring us back from the depths in which we find ourselves. Change and inspiration are powerful tools and if misused or misguided will do irreparable damage to us for generations to come.

This Primary has brought to light just how un-democratic our Democratic Party truly is.

I suppose I have been naive in believing the Democratic Party represented all of our interests no matter how great or small and the self-serving, corporate greed end was reserved for the Republicans. I now see with our inept system and Leadership at the top of our Party, we are no better than the other side in this regard.

I am a nearly 40 year old (just 7 days shy) woman and I come from an immigrant heritage and have had every good fortune given to me by this Great Country.

I do not support Hillary simply because she is a woman. I support her for her tireless commitment to the citizens of every state and because I believe in her judgment. That she is a woman is just icing on the cake.

And, I am frightened by what I am seeing happen to the Democratic Party. I am watching the Party that gave women the Right to Vote run roughshod over a qualified, intelligent and committed woman. If Hillary Clinton were a man running with these credentials, then we would be preparing for the General Election all ready.

I have never voted Republican in my life before, but if Obama should secure this Party's nomination with his flowery rhetoric and empty promises, then I will choose the lesser of two evils and vote against my Party. Because they will no longer represent the ideals I stand for and I will just have to suck it up and enjoy the tax breaks. Which I would willingly give up to better this Nation, but not at the cost of my beliefs.

This Country either works for all of us or it works for none of us.

I guess I'm a little verbose. Hmmmm. Sorry about that:)

RayinAR
03-07-2008, 08:58 PM
Amen Kitty. I am a 38 yr old man and I agree with everything you just said. I really don't think he will get the nomination though if we keep working hard on it.

suerw
04-02-2008, 02:59 AM
That is not good, fair, or productive for our country and, most especially, for women.
So, we had better get Hillary elected!
It is not fair for any candidate to be misquoted, misconstrued and in some cases simply trashed by the media. Not clear what the media agenda is, but I am glad that there is a candidate as strong as Hillary Clinton who will not cave to pressures from outside and, regret to say, inside the Party.

CGP
04-02-2008, 05:52 AM
It is not fair for any candidate to be misquoted, misconstrued and in some cases simply trashed by the media. Not clear what the media agenda is, but I am glad that there is a candidate as strong as Hillary Clinton who will not cave to pressures from outside and, regret to say, inside the Party.

If ever there was a person who could withstand the assaults from the Media/DNC/Obama COALITION, Hillary Clinton is the person! She is amazingly strong and resilient. I have full confidence in her ability to withstand this BARRAGE of abuse, bias and mispresentation.

Ohio mom
04-02-2008, 10:00 AM
Yes I definitely am...I feel like Hillary is fighting for me and my 12 year old daughter personally... I am a female dump truck driver and I feel what Hillary feels everyday!!! I have men treat me like a child and feel the necessity to "babysit" me even though I have been driving for almost 7 years, and I own my own trucks. Then I think what is obama going to do when his daughters come to him when they are grown and say "Dad I want to run for President!" What is he going to tell them?? How are they going to feel as women when they look back and see how their dad treated a perfectly qualified woman during this race? When they see all the sexist remarks and the incredible amount of lies he told? He is damaging his own 2 beautiful little girls who may one day want to run for this important position, and he is basically telling them to go back to the kitchen and make him a sandwich...SHAME ON HIM AND MICHELLE FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!!

Mrsawd
04-02-2008, 10:14 AM
Have a lot of emotion when you see and hear about so much shame that this man is causing In our Counrty He is tearing this Country Apart I am Personally a Married White Female Woman (MIDDLE AGED )
I am seeing so much But I will tell you I have Cousins that are married to Black Partners they are not Voting Obama they say they are ashamed to Be Black when they see a black Man being this disgusting and so many People following this type of leadership thy are saying Step Down Obama for you are Obimnating the whole race ! I was Once married to a man that was In the KKK and I did Not approve of that either WE divorced before he died !
I am Happily remarried to a Man that say If He had Millions He would Give to Clinton To Campaign In every town every where so get the Proofs of what this Obama I about ! He Is into History , Has alot Of Knowledge about the War s and His opinion Is Hillary and her followers need to try to be as Honest an upfront a Possible ! But If some dirty tactics need to be pulled to Get this disgusting Piece of Garbage throwed to the Dump then SO Be IT !

memphis
04-02-2008, 10:17 AM
I look at this forum constantly, even at work and I wake up in the night and look at it. I am very emotionally involved. I have spent way more than I could afford so she could have money she needs to run.
But I also am very logical about all that is happening. I recognize the media's quest to destroy Hillary, Obama and supporters that are obnoxious and pushy and dishonest and won the caucus states by intimidation and illegal activities.
I know I will never vote for Obama, no matter how many scare tactics and tricks Hier Dean will use to get me not to vote for McCain and vote for Obama instead.
Surely someone with enough power will speak up about what is happening or someone will step forward (such as James Carville) and organize us into a very very forceful group for Hillary. Then we could demand the media treat Hillary with fairness and respect.
Hillary will be our President. Obama will never be the President ever.

mjoynaples
04-02-2008, 10:38 AM
I was eqaully elated! Victory was so sweet after all the crap that Hillary and we (her supporters) had endured in the weeks leading up Mar 4th!


I have always been interested in politics.. NEVER gave money and certainly not the max as is now the case... and I am so sure she is the one IT is painfully hard to believe that others cannot see HER integrity, faithfulness, intelligence, hardwork and care for the people and talk about real and true change and hope being brought to the table... WOW... I have already cried for sadness and joy -all her significant WINS and especially that TX,OH, RI win was delightful and so wonderful to work together behind the scenes and witness what hard work can do..." HILLARY for PRESIDENT 2008!

yet my family is split and even though some want HILLARY they are NOT seeing BO's truth at all and maintain, "he is still a good person" scary stuff indeed... will not watch CNN (except Lou D occasionally) and never MSNBC or NBC or others and only FOX sometimes... always struggle to find out what is really happening too...thankfull for this group and appreciate the folks at hillary's web just WANTING her tech's to be more savy in getting things out in a timely manner....

threedee
04-02-2008, 10:48 AM
So much so that I have to shut off my TV and my internet. I'm to the point that I can't click on any headline that looks good for Hillary because I've been duped to find the story does nothing but bash her.
The only salvation I have is to come to sites like this.

movingtous
04-02-2008, 10:52 AM
Emotional?:eek:emotional?:mad::D Women never get emotional! We get mad, then we get EVEN. This is the first election that got me off by behind and do something! I donated money, attended campaign rallies, made calls, and blog. I boycotted CNN, MSNBC and have started watching FOX, for fair Democrat-bashing. ARRRRGGGHHHH, ARRRRGGGGGHHH, I am not hysterical, yet.

msbehavin
04-02-2008, 11:36 AM
This has been very emotional for me. Very personal...My son in law lost his job at Thanksgiving, Then they had to decide if he should insure himself OR my daughter and grandson. He has a preexisting condition, so ended up to be a no brainer and I just pray nothing happens to him. My nephew was deployed to Iraq in January, We lost over 50,000 from our 401K's cz no one was watching the financial markets, which means retirement just got further away. Our home depreciated but the tax man was all happy that he could use market prices from 2006 and our real estate taxes went thru the roof so now we can't even sell it. Obama has been my congressman and my senator and has done absolutely NOTHING to help ANYONE, but I can't seem to be able to get thru to his supporters. I am 54 years old and have waited most of my life to see a woman get into the White house only to be upstaged by a smooth talking man who has stolen almost every idea he has had from Hillary. Why is it that an idea is only viable if it is spoken by a man? That makes me so angry. One good thing, my republican husband voted for Hillary, as will my republican son in law who is in Pennsylvania and my daughter as well. We just must win this..

msbehavin
04-02-2008, 11:36 AM
This has been very emotional for me. Very personal...My son in law lost his job at Thanksgiving, Then they had to decide if he should insure himself OR my daughter and grandson. He has a preexisting condition, so ended up to be a no brainer and I just pray nothing happens to him. My nephew was deployed to Iraq in January, We lost over 50,000 from our 401K's cz no one was watching the financial markets, which means retirement just got further away. Our home depreciated but the tax man was all happy that he could use market prices from 2006 and our real estate taxes went thru the roof so now we can't even sell it. Obama has been my congressman and my senator and has done absolutely NOTHING to help ANYONE, but I can't seem to be able to get thru to his supporters. I am 54 years old and have waited most of my life to see a woman get into the White house only to be upstaged by a smooth talking man who has stolen almost every idea he has had from Hillary. Why is it that an idea is only viable if it is spoken by a man? That makes me so angry. One good thing, my republican husband voted for Hillary, as will my republican son in law who is in Pennsylvania and my daughter as well. We just must win this..

Robin Orlowski
04-02-2008, 11:36 AM
But this is the first campaign where I feel like I'm on another planet.

America publically says it's a democracy, yet the treatment Hillary is getting from the 'liberal' media is not at all open-minded. It's devolved into a contest to see who can bash her the most.

It's gotten to the point where I take everything the media says with a BIG grain of salt. I just scan the news now, and don't bother seriously reading it. I too come here for solace.

I admired them before, but now I really admire the Clintons now. To have people (including other women) constantly taunting you while hard at WORK is the sign of a true leader. They are so strong.

hillary4change
04-02-2008, 01:32 PM
I am tired of the Woman having to take the back seat to the man. For the man to imply the back seat and the kitchan are the best place for the Woman...if you get my drift. Yes I said it!

I am tired of Women showing off their boobs cause showing of their brains gets them no where.

I am tired of experience that "doesn't count" because it's the experience of a Woman. I mean experience in every sense of the word.

I am tired of hearing an intelligent Woman be talked over by a man, because his thoughts ideas are more important...and no one thinks it is wrong..they don't even notice.

I am tired of hearing that a Womans complaint is whining, while a mans complaint is just that, a complaint.

I am tired of Womens strength being discounted and demeaned to bitchiness!

I am tired of health-care for the rich and "more" important, while millions suffer in silence. Health-care isn't a priviledge its a human right!!

Im tired of Women having to scream and still men don't hear us.

I am tired of sexual abuse against young girls and Women and no real action or education is out there to show we are worth more!!

I could say so much more!!!

greekme1105
04-12-2008, 02:07 PM
Me too.

Horizon
04-12-2008, 03:21 PM
The first election I voted in was against the first Bush.I have not missed even a small local election since I was 18.This is truly only the second time that an election has brought me to tears. The first was the night that Al Gore was declared President and then...OOPS! We made a mistake! It's really Bush Jr., our biggest nightmare.I cried and could not believe what I was seeing and hearing. I thought that after that,this country would never allow such injustice.But, hold on! Here come the 2 Johns,Kerry and Edwards. That was some fun time in Ohio that year,huh? Was surprised to see Kerry roll over and take it.He should have fought harder.That was when I began to seriously worry about what would happen to us and our standing around the world.Oh, the joy when Hillary announced she was running!! And then, who's this guy?? He's a Senator? From where? Only for 3,yes, 3 years! Is he kidding? Oh,yeah. He's serious.Serious enough to lie,cheat,plagiarize and play the race card every opportunity he can.And while he's at it,lets talk down to everyone. After all,being condescending is much more attractive than having any experience whatsoever! Lets act like an ass and belittle small town America. Lets try to gloss over and explain away every stupid thing that we say and expect people to buy it.And they do.In droves.Like moths to a flame,they flock,never realizing what the burn from the heat will do to you.So,I sit and wait.I no longer watch anymore.I can't afford to replace my t.v when I throw the remote through the screen.I volunteer, and I tell.And tell,and tell.Anyone who will listen.This is what she stands for!This is what she's done!This is what she will do! And she always keeps her word. This I know,from experience.From watching her for years. From hearing her for years.I will do everything in my power to see this through.She must win.I'm weary of telling my kids "I'm sorry". I'm sorry for the mess we're handing over to you.I'm sorry you'll probably never receive S.S. benefits, or be able to send my grandchildren to college.I'm tired of this.I fear He will divide us even further.I fear filling out my mail in ballot in Nov. and not wanting to vote for my party candidate.I can't seem to be able to be the Democrat I used to be.The one who would vote for whoever won the nomination because,really, he's just as good as the other guy and doesn't scare me at all.I am not that person this time.This time, I'm worried about the other guy. The other guy will be training on the job.The other guy doesn't understand how foreign policy works. Or how to deal with us small town folk. The other guy convinced people that experience was just another dirty word, and having a President who is ready on day one isn't such a good thing. So,yes! This is very personal and emotional for me.I have never before volunteered at a campaign office or gotten up at 4:30 a.m. to drive 170 miles to stand in a cold rain for 3 hrs to see any candidate.But I did, for her.I believe in her even more than I believed in her husband who I gladly voted for twice. I want her to know that we will all lift her up.Rise,Hillary,Rise!

TeejDee
04-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Fantastic post! Know that there are lots of people out there that are feeling just like you! I get so mad sometimes I can't even think clearly but then I come across a post like yours and it keeps me fighting for Hillary! If we all keep doing our part, emailing everyone we know including media nationally and in our hometowns, making calls, going door to door with Hillary brochures(all of which I have done personally) WE WILL SUCCEED! I would suggest that we also all help Larry Sinclair get his story out! Everyday I talk to someone that hasn't even heard about him!Thank you again for your post and keep fighting for Hillary! In the words of Winston Churchill we must "never, never, never, QUIT!!!

Christines
04-12-2008, 05:30 PM
It makes me more determined when I see the media ignore the flaws of Obama! They want him nominated! It goes to show you the power they have!
But we can't let them get away with it! I have never been this involved in a political campaign but there is so much at stake!!!

ZY123
04-14-2008, 12:10 AM
This election has had a profound effect on me including a great role in shaping my future political beliefs. I was raised from a very early age to be a Democrat. My father was a delegate at many (if not every) conventions and I remember as a child the excitement, enthusiasm and compassion my father had as he stood up for what he believed in. I traveled across the country with him as he worked for his beliefs. He was for the people, the underdog – the you and the me. My Dad passed away when I was 14, and as a way of honoring his memory I have always stayed a true Democrat – until this year.

I feel my father would be disappointed with what the Democratic Party has become. It has become a party of identity politics and the anointed candidate this year (BO) used race baiting to secure his place in the party. The Democratic Party – the party that supposedly supports women’s rights but has stood by while blatant sexism and media bias infect Hillary’s candidacy. The Democratic Party – the party that has shown a lack of leadership in its handling of MI and FL – when did the Democratic Party become the party that suppresses votes – when BO became the anointed candidate that’s when. The Democratic Party – the party that seemingly has picked its candidate before the votes have been cast. The Democratic Party has lost its way IMO and I hope one day it can find its way home.

One thing that was true about my Dad was he stood up for what he believed in – and many times that was the underdog. And the underdog this election is Hillary Clinton – the media has unfairly put her in that position but I’m here to stand up for her. My first move was to leave the Democratic Party and register as an Independent. The point of this move was to show the Democrats that they can’t get away with their behavior and still have my membership. They can’t assume they have my vote because I’m a woman and part of their “base”. As an intelligent women, they need to know my vote goes to the best candidate and if that’s not Hillary that’s John McCain – Obama has not earned my vote. My vote is not a given, it must be earned. My second move is to stand up for Hillary no matter what. I have talked to my Democratic friends and I have gotten them to donate to her campaign and to consider McCain (a centerist) should Obama get this nomination. I have also spread the word on my idea of women re-registering as Independents and forcing the party to “earn” our votes – not “assume” they have them.

This is by far the most involved I have EVER been in an election and also the most emotional. I think this is a great forum and encourage everyone to stand up for what they believe even if what they believe is unpopular. =)

BooskerD
04-14-2008, 11:49 AM
Emotional? Personal? Oh, yes...there are very few people in my life I can discuss this election with- I'm pretty much down to my dear partner and my mom. One of my close friends is an Obama supporter only because Hillary reminds her physically of her boss, whom she hates. I want to throttle her!

Further, I have no idea if I'm even a democrat any longer. I think that this Clinton/Obama debacle has forever fractured the dems. I have zero respect for the DNC and Howard Dean. I already disliked Dean because of his treatment of Granny D (Doris Haddock) and it burns me that two states are being excluded from this process and our party candidate is being selected without input from all, with Dean's blessing. Ugh.

BooskerD
04-14-2008, 11:56 AM
This election has had a profound effect on me including a great role in shaping my future political beliefs. I was raised from a very early age to be a Democrat. My father was a delegate at many (if not every) conventions and I remember as a child the excitement, enthusiasm and compassion my father had as he stood up for what he believed in. I traveled across the country with him as he worked for his beliefs. He was for the people, the underdog – the you and the me. My Dad passed away when I was 14, and as a way of honoring his memory I have always stayed a true Democrat – until this year.

I feel my father would be disappointed with what the Democratic Party has become. It has become a party of identity politics and the anointed candidate this year (BO) used race baiting to secure his place in the party. The Democratic Party – the party that supposedly supports women’s rights but has stood by while blatant sexism and media bias infect Hillary’s candidacy. The Democratic Party – the party that has shown a lack of leadership in its handling of MI and FL – when did the Democratic Party become the party that suppresses votes – when BO became the anointed candidate that’s when. The Democratic Party – the party that seemingly has picked its candidate before the votes have been cast. The Democratic Party has lost its way IMO and I hope one day it can find its way home.

One thing that was true about my Dad was he stood up for what he believed in – and many times that was the underdog. And the underdog this election is Hillary Clinton – the media has unfairly put her in that position but I’m here to stand up for her. My first move was to leave the Democratic Party and register as an Independent. The point of this move was to show the Democrats that they can’t get away with their behavior and still have my membership. They can’t assume they have my vote because I’m a woman and part of their “base”. As an intelligent women, they need to know my vote goes to the best candidate and if that’s not Hillary that’s John McCain – Obama has not earned my vote. My vote is not a given, it must be earned. My second move is to stand up for Hillary no matter what. I have talked to my Democratic friends and I have gotten them to donate to her campaign and to consider McCain (a centerist) should Obama get this nomination. I have also spread the word on my idea of women re-registering as Independents and forcing the party to “earn” our votes – not “assume” they have them.

This is by far the most involved I have EVER been in an election and also the most emotional. I think this is a great forum and encourage everyone to stand up for what they believe even if what they believe is unpopular. =)

Oh my gosh, beautifully put, Rigel. I am completely on board, especially with the party "earning" my vote, not just assuming that I'm duty-bound to do the same old thing election after election. If Obama wins the democratic nomination, McCain is my candidate of choice. He is bright, experienced, and willing to cooperate across party lines.

ZY123
04-14-2008, 09:34 PM
Oh my gosh, beautifully put, Rigel. I am completely on board, especially with the party "earning" my vote, not just assuming that I'm duty-bound to do the same old thing election after election. If Obama wins the democratic nomination, McCain is my candidate of choice. He is bright, experienced, and willing to cooperate across party lines.

Thanks!

Hopefully HRC will get this nomination so we can vote for the best candidate - otherwise we go with second best. :)