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B positive
05-18-2008, 09:00 PM
Heard about this over brunch today from a GOP Hillary supporter!


FROM: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=110590(5/8/08)

Barack Obama's alleged socialist and communist connections will be the highlight of a planned news conference to be held in Washington in late May.

Veteran conservative journalist and media critic Cliff Kincaid says the news briefing scheduled for May 22 is not designed to support or oppose any one presidential candidate, but rather to shed light on parts of Senator Obama's (D-Illinois) past that the mainstream news media has chosen to ignore..... Kincaid says the reports will be both "explosive" and "shocking."



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CGP
05-18-2008, 09:15 PM
Interesting.

hills
05-18-2008, 09:18 PM
Lets pray more people watch the press conference.

Sandy in PA
05-18-2008, 09:19 PM
Yes--especially interesting when you consider Rev Wright's explosive comments about AIDS being introduced by the US Govt. This was a Soviet misinformation campaign in the 1980s. It makes the Communist links to Wright and Obama's church point and makes Obama even scarier. This is quite well known, and yet another thing that the media ignores, even when talking about Wright's actual comment. Its even on US govt websites:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-777030.html

nette60
05-18-2008, 09:22 PM
Yes--especially interesting when you consider Rev Wright's explosive comments about AIDS being introduced by the US Govt. This was a Soviet misinformation campaign in the 1980s. It makes the Communist links to Wright and Obama's church point and makes Obama even scarier. This is quite well known, and yet another thing that the media ignores, even when talking about Wright's actual comment. Its even on US govt websites:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-777030.html

I didn't know this. I must read more.

PuppyDogMom
05-18-2008, 09:24 PM
Isn't someone always going to come forward with something "explosive"? What's the point of waiting? I don't understand...:confused:

ssmith
05-18-2008, 09:26 PM
for those who don't believe me:

the GOPS have more ammunition than they know what to do with...

www.jeffhead.com/obamacircle.htm

Artists4Hillary
05-18-2008, 09:27 PM
I hope something blows Obama out of the water, and soon.

Sandy in PA
05-18-2008, 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by Sandy in PA
Yes--especially interesting when you consider Rev Wright's explosive comments about AIDS being introduced by the US Govt. This was a Soviet misinformation campaign in the 1980s. It makes the Communist links to Wright and Obama's church point and makes Obama even scarier. This is quite well known, and yet another thing that the media ignores, even when talking about Wright's actual comment. Its even on US govt websites:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archiv...14-777030.html

I didn't know this. I must read more.

Nette--even Hannity hasn't brought it up. I don't know why. I remember it when I was growing up. It was big news.

CGP
05-18-2008, 09:29 PM
YouTube - Obama will crown HIMSELF King Nominee .. WTF? Coup D'Etat?

Obamanation<Hillary
05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
I hope something blows Obama out of the water, and soon.

Maybe this is it. Who knows? This is definately going to hurt him to say the least. About time the media is going to reveal the truth about BO.

hobbitt
05-18-2008, 09:39 PM
OneNewsNow.com is a part of American Family Network.

And the American Family Network is a very passionate, partisan evangelical site.

(Not that there is anything wrong with that.....some of my best friends....etc.) but not a source which would inspire confidence if you were to quote them to the MSM.

Dendy
05-18-2008, 09:40 PM
It's going to be an interesting few weeks.:rolleyes:

nette60
05-18-2008, 09:45 PM
Heard about this over brunch today from a GOP Hillary supporter!






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I read on some more and Axelrod worked for the Chicago Tribune for 8 years as a reporter. A good reason we didn't have much negative news coming out of Chicago on Obama.

nette60
05-18-2008, 09:48 PM
So Obama had good connections in the media...the Chicago tribume, Axelrod connection and Oprah ! all in corrupt Chicago.

nette60
05-18-2008, 09:52 PM
Nette--even Hannity hasn't brought it up. I don't know why. I remember it when I was growing up. It was big news.

But I kind of remember a lot happening in California that has not come out in the news lately about people being hurt badly and even killed by the WU. I remember Ayers and Dohrn, there names at least....I remember them getting off on a technicality after serving some jail time....That's why Clinton pardoned them. The case had been botched up by the prosecutors. But they were guilty as hell.

Annie
05-18-2008, 10:27 PM
Heard about this over brunch today from a GOP Hillary supporter!
FROM: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election20...aspx?id=110590(5/8/08)

Barack Obama's alleged socialist and communist connections will be the highlight of a planned news conference to be held in Washington in late May.

Veteran conservative journalist and media critic Cliff Kincaid says the news briefing scheduled for May 22 is not designed to support or oppose any one presidential candidate, but rather to shed light on parts of Senator Obama's (D-Illinois) past that the mainstream news media has chosen to ignore..... Kincaid says the reports will be both "explosive" and "shocking."

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Is this the 'bomb?' Is this why Oboma is announcing May 20 he has won the delegates? Yikes! Thursday it is!
Just read the whole article..... Is this more of the same? Hope it is more and more of 'not the same'.

freespirit
05-18-2008, 10:37 PM
Man, I hope that is for real. People are undoutedly becoming increasingly concerned about BO's past and what he really stands for. I mean people other than us. We have been concerned from the get go.

indigo
05-19-2008, 12:16 AM
I hope the truth prevails and he is finally exposed...the self proclaimed emperor...without clothes.

texan4hillary
05-19-2008, 12:24 AM
who is this kinkacid guy? is he some crackpot? i mean is msm really going to listen these guys at all?

DrLisa
05-19-2008, 12:27 AM
That is only a few days away. Let's keep it front and center.

Vici57
05-19-2008, 12:29 AM
Let's hope his past is about to catch up to him. I pray that this is what we need to get him to step down. MSM will look like the idiots when all his past comes to light.

teachgrd3
05-19-2008, 12:42 AM
It's about time. So many of his "associates" or "friendly acquaintances" are Marxist/Communist. You would think this would raise a lot of red flags, but so far it hasn't. Hopefully, we're turning the corner.

Bets1
05-19-2008, 12:47 AM
The May 22 press conference will feature a former investigator for the House Committee on Un-American Activities, whose job was to expose Soviet misinformation campaigns, including one that accused the U.S. of creating the AIDS virus. Obama's controversial former pastor Jeremiah Wright has defended the very same conspiracy theory.

This sounds promising!

Eddie3dfx
05-19-2008, 01:58 AM
Frank Marshall Davis is his mentor

itsourturn
05-19-2008, 02:09 AM
Well well well...and they do this the day after BO becomes the presumptuous nominee. Just like we said...they were just waiting until they thought this exposure of Obama would help the GOP and not Hillary.

(Too bad they figured wrong...)

Kbentleyis
05-19-2008, 02:48 AM
We have been contacting newspapers, media, DNC, superdelegates, delegates, and anyone who we thought would pay attention. We were ignored or told off by the powers that be. After reading the article that Murray made available under another thread, about moving a mountain. It all seems to becoming together for us. Our government really stinks!!!

Those people knew all about it. They just didn't figure we uneducated, bible thumping, bitter, over-the-hill, gun-toting fools could use the Internet. Didn't think we could do such an indepth investigations.

I feel a cuse word comming on! Several name-calling cuse words.

mkreyns
05-19-2008, 03:33 AM
I wonder if this is part of the original idea I had that Obama will not qualify for a top secret security clearance. What time will this be on and on what channel? It is about time the government woke up from a stupor. Let's wait and see as Hillary said.

Kbentleyis
05-19-2008, 04:48 AM
I have so many thoughts on this. I felt that even if they have video footage of BO robbing a bank, supporters and media would find a way to explain it off.

I told Murray about the article he placed on a thread written by Andrew McCarthy exposing BO, was the real deal. McCarthy is a former US Prosecuting Attorney. He explained how they screwed up with Bill Ayers. The Feds obtained evidence ilegally and the case was dropped. He was guilty, but they couldn't use the evidence. His wife, Dohrn (I believe that is how you spell it) spent 8 years behind bars on another charge.

Ayers had ties with the Black Panthers. During the Chicago 8 trial they tried to murder one of the prosecutors. I think the name of the prosecutor was Murtayh... not sure how to spell that one! His son has written a book about the ties Ayres had and followed him closely. He had said that BO was very much involved with Ayres.

McCarthy said that BO not only knew Ayers, but actually worked for him, not JUST sitting on the Woods group together. MO, worked in the same office as Ayers wife. They knew each other very well.

The only hope I have, is that since 9/11 all rules have been broken on obtaining evidence, as in computer/money transfers/wire taps, etc. If, and I'm speculating, money via middle east and back again raised questions, the DOJ may have been working on Board Game for some time. Stupid Rezko played the game to long.

Too much speculation. But no matter all the heads up we sent to people, nothing ever happened. Perhaps coming from a reputable media, others will have to jump in.

Ohio mom
05-19-2008, 10:32 AM
Heard about this over brunch today from a GOP Hillary supporter!






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hhhmmmm is this the A-bomb???

Kbentleyis
05-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Bump!

samkm
05-19-2008, 01:56 PM
Hang on for the ride. Stay on the phones and done leave anything to chance.

Bad Kitty
05-19-2008, 02:11 PM
Good video Murray. Abomo? Ha ha. LOL

Does anyone know what channnel this might be on.

Wyoming Dem
05-19-2008, 04:22 PM
Bump

Annie
05-19-2008, 04:34 PM
I wonder if this is part of the original idea I had that Obama will not qualify for a top secret security clearance. What time will this be on and on what channel? It is about time the government woke up from a stupor. Let's wait and see as Hillary said.

This is what I think is going to be what is happening. The other stuff is all in his book re the Frank communist character etc and HE will slip through it as he has done in the past with oily like precision and the Kool Aid supporters will say it is 'nothing."

BUT Secret Security Clearance is another thing altogether and I don't see how it is possible for HIM to be cleared. And there will probably be indictments coming up from the Rezko trial which wasn't only about Rezko - just the beginning... Secret Service were in that church - remember Barack was there and they saw him... Now perhaps they have the video - just another expose the Republicans will have no problem through the Bush network in Government.

I also think Obama attcking Bush and McCain and also threatening the republicans attacking his wife (see the site Hillary is 44) etc. will bring them out sooner than they initially thought.

SadStateOfAffairs
05-19-2008, 04:42 PM
Video has been pulled. UNBELIEVABLE! NO more freedom of speech.

Tea toaD
05-19-2008, 04:45 PM
This was a Soviet misinformation


There has been a lot of misinformation and that is why he is still in the race:mad: It reminds me of the spies and counterspies giving misinformation to one another's countries. Let's hope this will lead to his exit of the campaign once and for all:mad: Thanks for the interesting article.

Charlie Brown
05-19-2008, 04:46 PM
This is what I think is going to be what is happening. The other stuff is all in his book re the Frank communist character etc and HE will slip through it as he has done in the past with oily like precision and the Kool Aid supporters will say it is 'nothing."

BUT Secret Security Clearance is another thing altogether and I don't see how it is possible for HIM to be cleared. And there will probably be indictments coming up from the Rezko trial which wasn't only about Rezko - just the beginning... Secret Service were in that church - remember Barack was there and they saw him... Now perhaps they have the video - just another expose the Republicans will have no problem through the Bush network in Government.

I also think Obama attcking Bush and McCain and also threatening the republicans attacking his wife (see the site Hillary is 44) etc. will bring them out sooner than they initially thought.

I always thought He was a Security Clearance issue...so with a war on terror will this put him in jail also....please say yes, maybe, possibly.......

SadStateOfAffairs
05-19-2008, 04:46 PM
Could someone summarize the video? It's vanished.....Pooof!

Charlie Brown
05-19-2008, 04:55 PM
If this is the bomb then they have there math off...a little longer then 10 days Rush... LOL! could explain why they think Bo is the winner

also I fear they will say Obama is cleared and another pass...sorry to be a downer its just this whole year has been nothing but a roller coaster and Im up one day down the next...anyway I hope this is over soon...I know you all do also...we'll pray it is...

shadow
05-19-2008, 05:03 PM
Is this why Oboma is announcing May 20 he has won the delegates?

What will it take to make these clowns realize that it doesn't matter how many times OB "announces he won"? Nobody has won a thing until the convention votes.

Tea toaD
05-19-2008, 05:04 PM
Im up one day down the next


That's the way I am too. Today and tomorrow will be great days though. Hillary is going all the way to Denver:)

indigo
05-19-2008, 05:07 PM
We should alert the media about this press conference...so it gets press coverage...otherwise no one but us will know about it.

B positive
05-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Bump! Let's keep May 22 in mind!!

MaryKay
05-19-2008, 11:11 PM
I have so many thoughts on this. I felt that even if they have video footage of BO robbing a bank, supporters and media would find a way to explain it off.

I told Murray about the article he placed on a thread written by Andrew McCarthy exposing BO, was the real deal. McCarthy is a former US Prosecuting Attorney. He explained how they screwed up with Bill Ayers. The Feds obtained evidence ilegally and the case was dropped. He was guilty, but they couldn't use the evidence. His wife, Dohrn (I believe that is how you spell it) spent 8 years behind bars on another charge.

Ayers had ties with the Black Panthers. During the Chicago 8 trial they tried to murder one of the prosecutors. I think the name of the prosecutor was Murtayh... not sure how to spell that one! His son has written a book about the ties Ayres had and followed him closely. He had said that BO was very much involved with Ayres.

McCarthy said that BO not only knew Ayers, but actually worked for him, not JUST sitting on the Woods group together. MO, worked in the same office as Ayers wife. They knew each other very well.

The only hope I have, is that since 9/11 all rules have been broken on obtaining evidence, as in computer/money transfers/wire taps, etc. If, and I'm speculating, money via middle east and back again raised questions, the DOJ may have been working on Board Game for some time. Stupid Rezko played the game to long.

Too much speculation. But no matter all the heads up we sent to people, nothing ever happened. Perhaps coming from a reputable media, others will have to jump in.


I've known about all this stuff too. The information is out there if one wants to know the truth. I honestly wonder if the MSM isn't covering it because all this coming out will be the bigger ratings producer during the GE. Hillary is "old news" and boring to the media.

underpaidnurse
05-19-2008, 11:13 PM
Murray,
I tried clicking on the shortcut/link to the youtube vid and it says video is no longer available?

YouTube - Obama will crown HIMSELF King Nominee .. WTF? Coup D'Etat? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-rPdQ41i_wI)

mooaks
05-19-2008, 11:36 PM
For what it's worth, I'm going to offer my own idea as to what is happening and ask a question of you all. Could it be possible that the FBI, CIA, Friends in very high places absolutely know for a fact the allegations about Obama and Wright, plus Larry Sinclair, among other things that could equally destroy his bid for the presidency???

I am thinking that the Clinton's would not want to bring him down on the sexual affairs things, because of his kids and no doubt would create an uproar that could turn to riots. Now here's what I think is happening. Perhaps Obama is caught on all counts, but maybe will be offered the way to escape without the sordid shame of admitting to the sexual charges.

This thing that the GOP has for the press conference may be the damaging piece of evidence that will bring him down, bad enough, but the lessor of the worst of the allegations. That's my thought, I'm mooaks and I approve this message. P.S. I could be so far out in left field that I may never get back to rational thinking, whatever that is. I guess I am praying for something, anything to bring him down. I do believe that the Hillary campaign hasn't shown all their cards yet. Just a case of don't wanna, but if forced to, devil take the hindmost.;););):D:D:D:):):)

Vici57
05-19-2008, 11:41 PM
Everyone need to go to http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.01.08.html and read about what is going to be presented May 22. I thought this was interesting.

But because of the sensitive nature of this briefing, we are not providing the exact location in advance except to those who definitely plan to be thereThere finding will be at an undisclosed place.

I see a crack in the ship that will start to sink!

B positive
05-19-2008, 11:42 PM
Manning (radio iview w/Rense) said he knows all about his "other lifestyle" and that he suspects Rep.Rangel knows even more. Manning, like Sinclair, is more than willing to hold a press conference on what he knows.... but not now. I guess he is a bit fearful of his life and feels that others know more and should reveal what they know before him.

I would also like to point out that Manning has said some horrific things about homosexuality and bi-racial children... for those reasons I am unable to give him much attention but I know ultra-conservatives will.

B positive
05-19-2008, 11:45 PM
Everyone need to go to http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.01.08.html and read about what is going to be presented May 22. I thought this was interesting.

But because of the sensitive nature of this briefing, we are not providing the exact location in advance except to those who definitely plan to be thereThere finding will be at an undisclosed place.

I see a crack in the ship that will start to sink!

Thanks, Vici57!

itsourturn
05-20-2008, 12:56 AM
Hmmm...

"Veteran conservative journalist and media critic Cliff Kincaid says the news briefing scheduled for May 22 is not designed to support or oppose any one presidential candidate, but rather to shed light on parts of Senator Obama's (D-Illinois) past that the mainstream news media has chosen to ignore."

What he meant to say was parts of BO's past that our megacorporate mediaopoly Republican agenda puppets have chosen to ignore.

mkreyns
05-20-2008, 01:05 AM
Moaks, I think this is all part of the FBI investigation that has to go on to get a top secret security clearance. As you notice in the reports, they also had to do backgorund checks on Hillary and McCain. It looks like they investigated Wright and where he got the idea about the USA injecting the AIDS virus into black people, which was a Russian conspiracy of disinformation.

I said a couple of months ago that I didn't think Obama could get a top secret security clearance. I saw when he applied for the clearance and I have been waiting and sweating out this primary season. I just hope that this will come out on the Mass media and I don't see how they could even consider his bid for the presidency and the top secret security clearance.

mkreyns
05-20-2008, 07:50 PM
Is there anybody here that can go to the conference in Washington, D.C.?

I do not know if it will be broadcast on TV.

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.10.08.html

mkreyns
05-20-2008, 10:16 PM
Let's see what happens when the info is released on May 22nd.

jerseygirl7
05-20-2008, 10:39 PM
Isn't someone always going to come forward with something "explosive"? What's the point of waiting? I don't understand...:confused:

I Agree - have been hearing about A bombs, video tapes, October Fest, etc. - if this is real fact, what are "they" waiting for?
I sure hope there is something real out there. I am hoping that Bill Clinton's wait and watch means the something is real!!!

Linda C
05-20-2008, 10:47 PM
Let's see what happens when the info is released on May 22nd.

It doesn't sound like anything. Obama never advocated that Aids was spread by the gov. He just never refuted it because it served his purpose.

Vici57
05-20-2008, 11:01 PM
The report is going to cover some of Obama Communism tries. i.e. Frank Davis He was Obama's mentor growing up in Hawaii. It also has to do with Ayers. I think his past is about to catch up with him.

I guess my question would be...How can he be a Senator with all of his corupt friends and ties? Why is the DNC covering for him?

DrLisa
05-20-2008, 11:05 PM
I think we will see a lot of this kind of stuff in the days to come. I think that is why DNC is rushing him to victory, before Dems really know who he is.

itsourturn
05-21-2008, 12:13 AM
Good plan, DNC. Especially if your goal is to lose to McCain in November.

Kbentleyis
05-21-2008, 12:20 AM
I emailed Kincaid, just for the heck of it. I told him that I had supplied delegates, DNC, super delegates, media, newspapers, etc.

So, then I wrote, what makes you think anyone is going to take your information for real and do something about this?

He wrote back: "We will go forward."

What is that suppose to mean? I was hoping for some juicy news... "We will go forward." UGH!

Area504
05-21-2008, 12:28 AM
Please DIGG (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_s_shocking_and_explosive_links_OneNewsNow_co m) this.

Peppermint Patty
05-21-2008, 12:35 AM
YouTube - Obama will crown HIMSELF King Nominee .. WTF? Coup D'Etat? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-rPdQ41i_wI)

Hey, video was removed! What did it say???

Peppermint Patty
05-21-2008, 12:52 AM
Moaks, I think this is all part of the FBI investigation that has to go on to get a top secret security clearance. As you notice in the reports, they also had to do backgorund checks on Hillary and McCain. It looks like they investigated Wright and where he got the idea about the USA injecting the AIDS virus into black people, which was a Russian conspiracy of disinformation.

I said a couple of months ago that I didn't think Obama could get a top secret security clearance. I saw when he applied for the clearance and I have been waiting and sweating out this primary season. I just hope that this will come out on the Mass media and I don't see how they could even consider his bid for the presidency and the top secret security clearance.

Can you imagine, after the years of the Cold war, Red scare, blacklists, etc. the Democratic party should want to nominate a man who was a Communist sympathizer???????? OMG. Oh. My. God. Toto, we are definitely NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE!!! What a travesty!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

hipelayne
05-21-2008, 01:32 AM
YouTube - Obama will crown HIMSELF King Nominee .. WTF? Coup D'Etat? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-rPdQ41i_wI)

The video is no longer available?

mkreyns
05-21-2008, 01:51 AM
I emailed Kincaid, just for the heck of it. I told him that I had supplied delegates, DNC, super delegates, media, newspapers, etc.

So, then I wrote, what makes you think anyone is going to take your information for real and do something about this?

He wrote back: "We will go forward."

What is that suppose to mean? I was hoping for some juicy news... "We will go forward." UGH!

I think it means that they are planning to do this conference whether anyone wants to believe it or not.

I didn't understand that you had supplied delegates etc. What were you trying to communicate?

He will only release juicy news at the conference, so nothing is leaked beforehand. If he has any part in the FBI investigation, he cannot release anything beforehand.

Bad Kitty
05-21-2008, 01:59 AM
"We will go forward."

Sounds like probably a standard response for we are going to say what we have to say. I hope they have evidence to back everything up.

Brooke
05-21-2008, 02:01 AM
Me too. I can't wait to see how this goes.

DrLisa
05-21-2008, 02:03 AM
I think they are building up interest to make their point. We should encourage, encourage, and say thank you, thank you!

suerw
05-21-2008, 02:45 AM
Yes--especially interesting when you consider Rev Wright's explosive comments about AIDS being introduced by the US Govt. This was a Soviet misinformation campaign in the 1980s. It makes the Communist links to Wright and Obama's church point and makes Obama even scarier. This is quite well known, and yet another thing that the media ignores, even when talking about Wright's actual comment. Its even on US govt websites:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-777030.html

This is important information. Reading up on black liberation theology, I learned about it's marxist roots, but this info you post is dynamite. I hope that the public can be made aware and realizes how insidious this doctrine purveyed in that church really is.

Bad Kitty
05-21-2008, 02:47 AM
This is important information. Reading up on black liberation theology, I learned about it's marxist roots, but this info you post is dynamite. I hope that the public can be made aware and realizes how insidious this doctrine purveyed in that church really is.

and apparently in this doctrine we can't have AC.

Annie
05-21-2008, 05:16 AM
Bumping this up as I don't want to miss the info....... bomba bomba bum bum

Annie
05-21-2008, 05:26 AM
I think it means that they are planning to do this conference whether anyone wants to believe it or not.

I didn't understand that you had supplied delegates etc. What were you trying to communicate?

He will only release juicy news at the conference, so nothing is leaked beforehand. If he has any part in the FBI investigation, he cannot release anything beforehand.


I am curious about that 'supplied delegates, etc" comment also. what does that mean?

I dug the article and left a comment and also dug the comments.... Hope more go in there are only 5 diggs.

scarolina
05-21-2008, 09:17 AM
I dugg the article and the comments

Lodi
05-21-2008, 09:27 AM
Sounds like probably a standard response for we are going to say what we have to say. I hope they have evidence to back everything up.

I second your interpretation. Sounds like good news to me, assuming, as you point out, they have EVIDENCE.

thebword
05-21-2008, 11:56 AM
Is there anybody here that can go to the conference in Washington, D.C.?

I do not know if it will be broadcast on TV.

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.10.08.html

Wow, a MUST READ! I'm speechless after reading that article on Frank Davis.
emailing links now.

Mrsawd
05-21-2008, 12:07 PM
ALL I CAN SAY IS seems like months I have been saying BO national security hazard!
SUSPICIONS GOVERMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIER JOBS BO WOULD NEVER HAVE MADE IT THIS FAR!

europeforhillary
05-21-2008, 01:00 PM
Maybe this is what the gov.wants...maybe they planned it...:eek:

maybe they created him...make him win the dem.nomination...and then they will play all the dirty cards out...so he loose :confused:

They...the gov. have too much too loose...they want to keep the power...they don't want the iraq to end yet...too much money in play for them...the war has cost billions...but others have earned billions for them self....:eek:

The money are the real power and they do anything to keep it that way!

Bo will never get it...the prez.

well there is so many conspirations teories...nothing is impossibel...who did kill kennedy????

All this MSM bias...who own and controll them???

This has been a very strange election...

we living outside the US...we talk a lot about it ...something is going on..seems scary...like there is some dynamite stories to be revield...:confused:

Maybe it's just us who's fantasy has gone crazy...I hope so;)

I hope with all my heart that Hillary will be Madam President 2008...:)

love from Liz in Denmark

mukunda22
05-21-2008, 01:09 PM
perhaps it will only be a matter of days when Obama is denied a security clearance.

That would be just.

Just think--if any one of us had these ties, WE would be denied security clearance, for heaven's sake.

PS--BUMP THIS!!

europeforhillary
05-21-2008, 01:24 PM
Hi Mukunda22

Lovely dog you got there...:-o)

I am a big animallover...got 6 dogs...hihi

May I ask you...what do you mean with BUMP...I have seen so many say this...please translate to and "old" norwegian/dane...:-o)

Liz

brussell
05-21-2008, 01:39 PM
vote for this at RealClearPolitics:

http://realclearpolitics.com/readerarticles/?period=all

Investigators to Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

VETERAN INVESTIGATORS REPORTS WILL SHED IMPORTANT NEW LIGHT ON BARACK OBAMA'S MYSTERIOUS PAST. DATE AND TIME: MAY 22. 2-4:00 p.m. Location: the basement of Ebenezer’s Coffeehouse, 205 F Street NE, Washington, D.C. 20002.
Submitted By Lynne - May 21, 9:53 am

There are other interesting articles to vote for too while you're there.

ScottVA
05-21-2008, 01:58 PM
vote for this at RealClearPolitics:

http://realclearpolitics.com/readerarticles/?period=all

Investigators to Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

VETERAN INVESTIGATORS REPORTS WILL SHED IMPORTANT NEW LIGHT ON BARACK OBAMA'S MYSTERIOUS PAST. DATE AND TIME: MAY 22. 2-4:00 p.m. Location: the basement of Ebenezer’s Coffeehouse, 205 F Street NE, Washington, D.C. 20002.
Submitted By Lynne - May 21, 9:53 am

There are other interesting articles to vote for too while you're there.

There are MANY good articles today at RealClearPolitics that need some voting.... go there and click on VIEW ALL SUBMISSIONS... there are probably more then a dozen that are GREAT reads...

Mrsawd
05-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Sink The Ship For The Bo Ass!

europeforhillary
05-21-2008, 02:20 PM
Lol

LadyVT
05-21-2008, 02:29 PM
I cannot believe this man could possibly ever get a top level security clearance in this country, ever. http://www.barackobamaassociates.info

EVER.

mkreyns
05-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Maybe this is what the gov.wants...maybe they planned it...:eek:

maybe they created him...make him win the dem.nomination...and then they will play all the dirty cards out...so he loose :confused:

They...the gov. have too much too loose...they want to keep the power...they don't want the iraq to end yet...too much money in play for them...the war has cost billions...but others have earned billions for them self....:eek:

The money are the real power and they do anything to keep it that way!

Bo will never get it...the prez.

well there is so many conspirations teories...nothing is impossibel...who did kill kennedy????

All this MSM bias...who own and controll them???

This has been a very strange election...

we living outside the US...we talk a lot about it ...something is going on..seems scary...like there is some dynamite stories to be revield...:confused:

Maybe it's just us who's fantasy has gone crazy...I hope so;)

I hope with all my heart that Hillary will be Madam President 2008...:)

love from Liz in Denmark

I have devised three conspiracy theories and this one you have proposed is close to my #2 theory.

Kbentleyis
05-21-2008, 03:03 PM
Sorry, I wasn't clearer in my explanation of my email. Here is the copy.

Subj: Re: Why MSN, CNN, NBC not Reported
Date: 5/20/2008 6:18:20 PM Central Daylight Time
From:
Sent from the Internet (Details)




We will go forward. Thank you.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: [email]
Dear Mr.
You are probably the only one, Sean Hannity too, that has finally listened. I have sent countless information to all of the above including super delegates, delegates, or anyone who'd listen. No one has paid attention.

Why now? And, what ever information you have, what difference would it make? No one is listening. They've made this person out to be like the second comming. I'm so surprised that Mr. Hannity finally found someone who would listen, but I don't know how good it will help.

Last night Hannity had two NYC police officers trying to convince Colmes how dangerous Ayers is and Obama's association to him. Well, needless to say, the word "association does not mean he shares the same views!"

How can people be so stupid? I've received rude emails from people like I was some kind of lunatic trying to spread unfounded lies. What will it take to open their eyes?

If you place Obama in the center, then layout all of these awful people associated with him, (Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Farrakan, etc.) you will notice the common link: they all hate America.

The Dean 7 are behind so much. MSN, CNN all are subsidiaries of GE. They do big business with Iran. Go figure? Who will follow the money?

Anyway, good luck. I certainly hope someone listens. I will and about 17 million Americans that love this country. We are so sick of the corruption in this government. I am sure you are seeing it yourself. No bad news is ever reported about Obama. And, if it is, it's quickly dismissed... forgotten.

K

duchess5
05-21-2008, 07:57 PM
thursday at 2;00,Cliff Kincaid editor of Accuracy in Media and his partner Herbert Romerstein are repoting on a year long investigation on Obama and his years in Hawaii....201 F street lower level.......Obama and his other communist connections.

Cliff Kincaid gave a teaser on CSPAN last Friday....I e-mailed everey news site I could think of...Please! if you know anyone of importance or influence pass this information along!

Bloomer
05-21-2008, 08:02 PM
This could prove quite interesting and couldn't come at a better time if it's more dirt. :D

hillary4change
05-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Stay tuned, but keep working. We have to earn it!

Bets1
05-21-2008, 08:22 PM
Bumping this up as I don't want to miss the info....... bomba bomba bum bum

Again! :D

swannyj
05-21-2008, 08:24 PM
Unfortunately MSM will probably bury it with a pro Obama event.

Mrsawd
05-21-2008, 08:27 PM
Maybe we should make sure all the delegates and SD's know about it ! and the Larry sinclair press conference along with my comment how is it gonna look if they elect BO then they start getting all kinds of lawsuits from His Lovers !

joeysky18
05-21-2008, 08:33 PM
please keep us posted.

brussell
05-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Merge thread

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=12624

into the one containing the post.

Tea toaD
05-21-2008, 08:38 PM
http://208.68.175.86/discussion/showthread.php?t=12113

Isn't this the same topic?;)

Patsy
05-21-2008, 08:41 PM
http://www.diversityj.com/images/JCIMG_2906s4.jpg

Bloomer
05-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Isn't someone always going to come forward with something "explosive"? What's the point of waiting? I don't understand...:confused:

I agree! Can't you just tell us already? Why do we always have to wait? what's the hold up?:confused:

SusanfromPA
05-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Do we know who is covering this?

shadow
05-21-2008, 09:43 PM
I agree! Can't you just tell us already? Why do we always have to wait? what's the hold up?:confused:

This is just a guess, but my family are all republicans and they say they want OB because they feel sure they can beat him in the GE. They say that after Bush, they fear Hillary more.

Annie
05-21-2008, 09:49 PM
Sorry, I wasn't clearer in my explanation of my email. Here is the copy.

Subj: Re: Why MSN, CNN, NBC not Reported
Date: 5/20/2008 6:18:20 PM Central Daylight Time
From:
Sent from the Internet (Details)

We will go forward. Thank you.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: [email]
Dear Mr.
You are probably the only one, Sean Hannity too, that has finally listened. I have sent countless information to all of the above including super delegates, delegates, or anyone who'd listen. No one has paid attention.

Why now? And, what ever information you have, what difference would it make? No one is listening. They've made this person out to be like the second comming. I'm so surprised that Mr. Hannity finally found someone who would listen, but I don't know how good it will help.

Last night Hannity had two NYC police officers trying to convince Colmes how dangerous Ayers is and Obama's association to him. Well, needless to say, the word "association does not mean he shares the same views!"

How can people be so stupid? I've received rude emails from people like I was some kind of lunatic trying to spread unfounded lies. What will it take to open their eyes?

If you place Obama in the center, then layout all of these awful people associated with him, (Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Farrakan, etc.) you will notice the common link: they all hate America.

The Dean 7 are behind so much. MSN, CNN all are subsidiaries of GE. They do big business with Iran. Go figure? Who will follow the money?

Anyway, good luck. I certainly hope someone listens. I will and about 17 million Americans that love this country. We are so sick of the corruption in this government. I am sure you are seeing it yourself. No bad news is ever reported about Obama. And, if it is, it's quickly dismissed... forgotten.
K


From this letter to God knows who will listen and take action for all our sakes. Thanks for all that and more.

Hillary for President. Please.

Annie
05-21-2008, 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Annie
Bumping this up as I don't want to miss the info....... bomba bomba bum bumAgain! :D

And again and again.... waiting for the news... :D

B positive
05-21-2008, 11:09 PM
Don't forget! It all goes down tomorrow afternoon!

carmaken
05-22-2008, 12:01 AM
This is just a guess, but my family are all republicans and they say they want OB because they feel sure they can beat him in the GE. They say that after Bush, they fear Hillary more.

This is exactly what I think is happening. With all of this ammo against BO, it will make McCain look like an angel sent from heaven to any voter.

If there is any justice, it will be found out before the Convention.

Peppermint Patty
05-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Everyone need to go to http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.01.08.html and read about what is going to be presented May 22. I thought this was interesting.

But because of the sensitive nature of this briefing, we are not providing the exact location in advance except to those who definitely plan to be thereThere finding will be at an undisclosed place.

I see a crack in the ship that will start to sink!

I sent this link last night to various family and friends and when they tried it this morning the site wasn't there! I tried it this morning and it was gone. Now it's back. Think the NObamabots are hacking away at the truth again???

Anyway I'll bet this doesn't see the light of day on CNN or MSNBC, hope Fox will look into it or at least report on it!

Wales for Hillary
05-22-2008, 12:17 AM
HERE IT IS FOLKS....

This might already be on here, but here are the full details of what will be discussed tomorrow. I haven't had time to read them yet so lets all sift through them and see whats gonna be a hit....

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

Peppermint Patty
05-22-2008, 12:24 AM
Moaks, I think this is all part of the FBI investigation that has to go on to get a top secret security clearance. As you notice in the reports, they also had to do backgorund checks on Hillary and McCain. It looks like they investigated Wright and where he got the idea about the USA injecting the AIDS virus into black people, which was a Russian conspiracy of disinformation.

I said a couple of months ago that I didn't think Obama could get a top secret security clearance. I saw when he applied for the clearance and I have been waiting and sweating out this primary season. I just hope that this will come out on the Mass media and I don't see how they could even consider his bid for the presidency and the top secret security clearance.

Wow, according to the PDF doc just posted a Presidential candidate does not have to have to undergo a background check. As President he would get an automatic security clearance and have immediate access to all state secrets!!!!!

That's how he's going to get around it!!!! OMG!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

PA_Voter
05-22-2008, 12:34 AM
I hope this guy makes it to the podium; and, I hope someone tapes the whole thing!

Fluffs associations are scary and people need to know!

Wales for Hillary
05-22-2008, 12:42 AM
Interesting tidbits so far.....

George Soros has funded many Weather Underground members' companies.

BernADINE dORN worked with MO for 3 years at the law firm where Obama met her

Dendy
05-22-2008, 02:48 AM
Here is a PDF of the Obama communist files:
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

xfiles
05-22-2008, 04:06 AM
Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck04.07.08.html

By Cliff Kincaid

Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.
Frank Marshall Davis

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”

One Davis poem, “Christ is a Dixie ******,” dismisses Christ as “another New White Hope” and declares:

“Remember this, you wise guys

Your tales about Jesus of Nazareth are no-go with
Me I’ve got a dozen Christs in Dixie all bloody
and black…”

The revelations about Davis’ poetry will add to the controversy over what kind of role Davis played in shaping Obama’s political views. Davis (1905-1987) seems to have had the same kind of anti-American outlook that animated Obama’s longtime pastor, Jeremiah Wright. In fact, Davis was pro-Soviet, not just anti-American.


The controversial poems are included in the book, Black Moods, a collection edited by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas and expert on Davis’s writings and career. He confirms that Davis joined the Communist Party but that he publicly tried to deny his communist affiliations.

Davis’ poem, “To the Red Army,” says that “rich industrialists” in Washington and London wanted Hitler to win and “wipe Communism from the globe.”

One Davis poem, “Onward Christian Soldiers,” mocks the Christian hymn by the same name. It talks of Africans being killed with a “Christian gun” instead of a spear by
the missionaries following “the religion of Sweet Jesus.” Another Davis poem refers to Christians “who buy righteousness like groceries.”


Gerald Horne
Davis’ writings have become an issue because he became a father-figure to Obama, who is the leading Democratic candidate for president of the U.S., during their time in Hawaii. Obama acknowledges in his book, Dreams From My Father, that he knew and accepted advice from a black poet named “Frank” but doesn’t identify “Frank” by his
full name. However, several sources, including Professor Gerald Horne and Dr. Kathryn Takara, have confirmed that “Frank” was in fact Frank Marshall Davis. Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, first noted evidence that “Frank” was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.

In remarks at a reception of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University, Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, asserted that Davis had came into contact with Obama and his family in Hawaii and became the young man's mentor, influencing his sense of identity and career path.

Obama writes in Dreams From My Father that he saw “Frank” only a few days before he left Hawaii for college. He said that Davis called college an “advanced degree in compromise,” warned Obama not to forget his “people,” and not to “start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit.”

The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where he developed his close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, and listened to his “poetry” and views.

But in the same way that he fails to identify “Frank” as Frank Marshall Davis, Obama says nothing about the nature of this “poetry.” However, Tidwell says that several Davis poems were viewed as “subversive” by the FBI and that they help explain why it monitored his activities. Tidwell says that the FBI maintained a file on Davis.


One Davis poem, “Peace Quiz for America,” includes the lines:

“Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam
Why did you send me against Axis foes
In the death-kissed foxholes
Of New Guinea and Europe
Without shielding my back
From the sniping Dixie lynchers
In the jungles of Texas and Florida?”

Tidwell asserts that Davis’ was a “closet” member of the CPUSA and that it’s not clear how long he stayed in the party.

The Senate Internal Security Subcommittee (SISS) reprinted the 1953 and 1954 Reports of the Commission on Subversive Activities of the Territory of Hawaii, which refer to Davis as “an identified member of the Communist Party” who was affiliated with a number of Communist fronts and circulated “inflammatory racial propaganda.” Davis also wrote columns for the Honolulu Record, a Communist paper. These were described as “unrelenting and unmitigated complaints of racial discrimination in the United States.” Davis was labeled “a bitter opponent of capitalism” and “staunch defender” of communists and communist sympathizers.


Max Friedman, a longtime writer and researcher on internal security affairs, discovered that Davis testified in 1956 before the SISS and took the Fifth Amendment on his Communist Party membership.

The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) took testimony in 1950 from a member of the Honolulu branch of the NAACP, Edward Berman, who said that Davis had showed up to “propagandize” its membership about alleged “racial problems.” Berman referred to “Comrade Davis” as someone who “sneaked” into the NAACP meetings “with the avowed intent and purpose of converting it into a front for the Stalinist line.”

Tidwell says that Davis “felt betrayed” when Soviet dictator Stalin signed the 1939 nonaggression pact with Nazi Germany, which triggered World War II, but that Stalin’s eventual decision to join the U.S. and its allies in a war on the Axis powers “restored a measure of Davis’ confidence in the USSR.”

Another book, The New Red Negro, by James Edward Smethurst, says that while Davis had said he was disturbed by the Hitler-Stalin pact, he did not leave the CPUSA in protest over it.


Tidwell maintains that Davis moved to Hawaii from Chicago, Illinois, in 1948 under “the governmental pressure of McCarthyism,” a reference to anti-communist Senator Joe McCarthy. However, the SISS and the HCUA had nothing to do with McCarthy's committee, which was the Permanent Investigations Subcommittee of the Senate's
Government Operations Committee.

_____________________________________________

I know in these same formative years that I was influenced by American History and patriotism in school, at home and almost everywhere.

That is part of the reason that I am a true patriot to this day.

Obama was indoctrinated with this garbage during his formative years so I don't think he even knows what true American patriotism is.

It's obvious this indoctrination stayed with him in the associates he sought out and in his church!

When is American going to wake up? Before it's too late?

xfiles
05-22-2008, 04:28 AM
THE PUZZLE PIECES ARE COMING TOGETHER!

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

Obama’s Secret Socialist Connections

Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. Obama's stint as a "community organizer" in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.

Blogger Steve Bartin, who has been following Obama's career and involvement with the Chicago socialists, uncovered a fascinating video showing Obama campaigning for openly socialist Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Interestingly, Sanders, who won his seat in 2006, called Obama "one of the great leaders of the United States Senate," even though Obama had only been in the body for about two years. In 2007, the National Journal said that Obama had established himself as "the most liberal Senator." DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. The Socialist International (SI) has what is called "consultative status" with the United Nations. In other words, it works hand-in-glove with the world body.


Symbol of the Democratic Socialists of America

The international connection is important and significant because an Obama bill, "The Global Poverty Act," has just been rushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the assistance of Democratic Senator Joe Biden, the chairman, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar. The legislation (S.2433) commits the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars more in foreign aid on the rest of the world, in order to comply with the "Millennium Goals" established by the United Nations.

Conservative members of the committee were largely caught off-guard by the move to pass the Obama bill but are putting a "hold" on it, in order to try to prevent the legislation, which also quickly passed the House, from being quickly brought up for a full Senate vote. But observers think that Senate Democrats may try to pass it quickly anyway, in order to give Obama a precious legislative "victory" that he could run on.

Howard Dean’s Socialist Ties

Another group associated with the SI is the Party of European Socialists (PES), which heard from Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, back in 2006. Dean's speech is posted on the official Democratic Party website, although the European socialist parties are referred to as "progressive." Democrats, Dean said, want to be "good citizens of the world community." He spoke at a session on "Global Challenges for Progressive Politics."

Following up, in April 2007, PES President Poul Nyrup Rasmussen reported that European socialists held a meeting "in the Democrats HQ in Washington," met with officials of the party and Democratic members of Congress, and agreed that "PES activist groups" in various U.S. cities would start working together. The photos of the trip show Rasmussen meeting with such figures as Senator Ben Cardin, Senator Bernie Sanders, officials of the Brookings Institution, Howard Dean, and AFL-CIO President John W. Sweeney, a member of the DSA. The Brookings Institution is headed by former Clinton State Department official Strobe Talbott, a proponent of world government who was recently identified in the book Comrade J as having been a pawn of the Russian intelligence service.

The socialist connections of Obama and the Democratic Party have certainly not been featured in the Washington Post columns of Harold Meyerson, who happens not only to be a member but a vice-chair of the DSA. Meyerson has praised convicted inside-trader George Soros for manipulating campaign finance laws to benefit the far-left elements of the Democratic Party. Obama's success in the Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses is further evidence of Soros's success. Indeed, Soros has financially contributed to the Obama campaign.

It is not surprising that the Chicago Democrat, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, has endorsed Obama. Schakowsky, who endorsed Howard Dean for president in 2004, was honored in 2000 at a dinner sponsored by the Chicago chapter of the DSA. Her husband, Robert Creamer, emerged from federal prison in November 2006 after serving five months for financial crimes. He pleaded guilty to ripping off financial institutions while running a non-profit group. Before he was convicted but under indictment, Creamer was hired by the Soros-funded Open Society Policy Center to sabotage John Bolton's nomination as Ambassador to the U.N. One of the claims made against Bolton was that he had yelled at somebody 20 years ago. The allegation was made by a specialist in "recovered memories."

After his release from prison, Creamer released a book, Listen to Your Mother: Stand up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, described by one blogger as the book that was "penned in the pen." A blurb for the book declares, "Some people think that in order to win,Obama consultant Axelrod

Democrats need to move to the political center by adopting conservative values and splitting the difference between progressive and conservative positions. History shows they are wrong. To win the next election and to win in the long term, we need to redefine the political center."

In addition to writing the book, Creamer is back in business, running his firm, Strategic Consulting Group, and advertising himself as "a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, change America's budget priorities and enact comprehensive immigration reform." His clients have included the AFL-CIO and MoveOn.org. In fact, his client list reads like a virtual who's who of the Democratic Party, organized labor, and Democratic Party constituency groups. Creamer's list of testimonials comes from such figures as Democratic Senators Dick Durbin (Ill.) and Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Harold Meyerson, MoveOn.org founder Wes Boyd, and David Axelrod, a "Democratic political consultant."

Axelrod, of course, is much more than just a "Democratic political consultant." He helped State Senator Barack Obama win his U.S. Senate seat in 2004 and currently serves as strategist and media advisor to Obama's presidential campaign.

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck2.22.08.html

THIS STUFF IS BEYOND SCARY AND IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHIN!!!

IF YOU READ THE CHICAGO CONNECTION, YOU WILL SEE THE BIG PICTURE OF OBAMA, AYERS, DOHRN AND MANY OTHERS!!

OBAMA IS A MARXIST MOLE!!!!

THIS EXPLAINS WHY HE SAYS ONE CONTROVERSIAL THING AND THEN HAS TO CHANGE OR DENY IT TO SUIT MAIN STREAM AMERICA!

OMG!!

xfiles
05-22-2008, 04:55 AM
It is said in the Chicago report that there are pictures of Obama and spouse on this pro-Palestinian website:

http://electronicintifada.net/


I couldn't find them but didn't have a lot of time. Maybe someone else can?

Kbentleyis
05-22-2008, 05:14 AM
From the Human Events news group (a political newspaper) said that McCain, and the GOP, hired Tim Griffith, an investigating operative. As I said before in another thread, what do you think "operative" means? He's suppose to be top in his field. He is hired to investigate (he who shall be nameless), and only him.

Operative, isn't that a CIA term?

I wonder what is going on? I wish they would please find something soon!

Kbentleyis
05-22-2008, 05:44 AM
All these people hold political seats. Why aren't they investigated as well? Maybe I'm reading this wrong. The government doesn't look at the DSA as a threat?

VANITY4HILLARY
05-22-2008, 06:41 AM
It is all beginning to come together and we must stop it. Anything to stop it.

Well I doubt if he can be stopped.Its written and I hope this does not happen over night with him in office.I hope this happen when I hit the bucket.The American people r the most pathetic and most gullible people in the world.Telling Americans who to freaking vote for.......SAD

xfiles
05-22-2008, 07:32 AM
Bill Ayers is a leader in the “critical pedagogy” academic educational school of thought,which sees elementary school students as vessels through which the revolution can be realized. Rather than blowing up ROTC offices, Bill Ayers is now attempting to plant bombs in the minds of the nation's school children.

Get a load of this!!

http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FObamamania%2Farticles%2F473%2FBill%2 BAyers%2BMarxist%2BEducational%2BTheory&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gseis.ucla.edu%2Ffaculty%2Fpa ges%2Fmclaren%2F

http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FObamamania%2Farticles%2F473%2FBill%2 BAyers%2BMarxist%2BEducational%2BTheory&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2F2008%2F 04%2Fbill_ayers_and_the_subversion_1.html


Just a guy in the neighborhood, huh? I posted a week or 2 ago about Obama's neighborhood which is infested with the likes of Ayers, Farrakhan, etc.

Seems like their neighborhood parties feature the Marxist Minifesto.

agalfromcal4hill
05-22-2008, 08:42 AM
Anyone know what time this news conference is set for? When can we expect information to come out? Will it be broadcast?
Thanks

PA_Voter
05-22-2008, 10:01 AM
It is said in the Chicago report that there are pictures of Obama and spouse on this pro-Palestinian website:

http://electronicintifada.net/


I couldn't find them but didn't have a lot of time. Maybe someone else can?
_____________
Here's one--He's Pro-Israel with Pics of him and his wife: How Barack Obama learned to love Israel
Ali Abunimah, The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml

Then it links him to one that He's not so Pro-Israel: Obama Pivots Away From Dovish Past
Larry Cohler-Esses, The Jewish Week, 8 March 2007
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6640.shtml


Oh boy, he doesn't just have fundraisers at Ayer's home but Rashid Khalidi's home as well:

In 2000, Abunimah recalled, Professor Rashid Khalidi, a leading Palestinian American advocate for a two-state solution and harsh critic of Israel, held a fundraiser in his home for Obama, embarked then on an ultimately unsuccessful bid for the House of Representatives. "He came with his wife," Abunimah said. "That's where I had a chance to really talk to him. It was an intimate setting. He convinced me he was very aware of the issues [and] critical of U.S. bias toward Israel and lack of sensitivity to Arabs. ... He was very supportive of U.S. pressure on Israel."

Khalidi, now the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University, and head of that school's Middle East Institute, declined to comment on Abunimah's recollections. But in an interview in Tuesday's Daily News, he said he hosted the fundraiser because he and Obama were friends while the two lived in Chicago. "He never came to us and said he would do anything in terms of Palestinians," Khalidi told the paper.

Nevertheless, one Hyde Park source close to Obama, speaking only on condition of anonymity, recalled, "He often expressed general sympathy for the Palestinians -- though I don't recall him ever saying anything publicly."

Dendy
05-22-2008, 10:22 AM
I read the document last night and couldn’t really sleep well at all. I wonder how that will go today. Will the MSM pick on it? Will it get the much needed air time and attention? Or will it be one of those stories about Obama that everyone shrugs off.
If this doesn’t wake up everyone I don’t know what will.
See I’ve lived in a communist country for 14 years and I know first hand what it feels like. No wonder that all the speeches and slogans sounded so familiar and so right out of the red book. The way the media has been operating in the last 6 months is a perfect example of controlled media. With Obama as president you can almost imagine where the freedom of speech is going to go.
This is a huge danger and if unstopped, the consequences will be devastating. I can never live in America under Obama.
Just the idea of it is absolutely sickening to me.

Ohio mom
05-22-2008, 10:32 AM
Me too. I can't wait to see how this goes.

it's supposed to go down today??? does anyone know what time and who will cover it???:confused:

Charlie Brown
05-22-2008, 10:39 AM
I have a question...Why did Bill Clinton pardon Bill Ayers from prison????This is a worry I cant get off my mind???someone please tell me...

ssmith
05-22-2008, 10:49 AM
guys.. PLEASE do your research.. BIll Clinton DID NOT pardon Ayer...

terrorist AYERS who planned the bombing.. DID NOT SERVE 1 day in prison.. he got off on a technicality..

Bill clinton pardoned member of the weather ungrd who had served many many years in prison..

research first please.. use wikipedia..

Brooke
05-22-2008, 10:51 AM
guys.. PLEASE do your research.. BIll Clinton DID NOT pardon Ayer...

terrorist AYERS who planned the bombing.. DID NOT SERVE 1 day in prison.. he got off on a technicality..

Bill clinton pardoned member of the weather ungrd who had served many many years in prison..

research first please.. use wikipedia..

Thank you for clearing that up.

Are you referring to the guy he pardoned because Barak had asked him to?

Lodi
05-22-2008, 10:51 AM
I have a question...Why did Bill Clinton pardon Bill Ayers from prison????This is a worry I cant get off my mind???someone please tell me...

Me, too!! When we're making an accusation against Obama, we can't have him negate it with a counter-accusation about the same topic. I hope Hillary had nothing to do with pardons or is on record as having been against this particular pardon...and any other questionalbe ones!!:eek:

P.S. Just saw the answer that it was a diff. WU member. Will look it up. Thx.

Officials Criticize Clinton's Pardon of an Ex-Terrorist
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By ERIC LIPTON
Published: January 22, 2001/The New York Times
An unusual combination of New York political and law enforcement leaders have condemned former President Bill Clinton's pardon of Susan L. Rosenberg, a one-time member of the Weather Underground terrorist group who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink's robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead.

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and United States Senator Charles E. Schumer, a Democrat, were among those who criticized the pardon, as did Bernard B. Kerik, New York City's police commissioner, and David Trois, a Rockland County police union official.

''It sickened me,'' Mr. Kerik said yesterday of the pardon, one of 140 granted Saturday, the final day of Mr. Clinton's tenure.

Ms. Rosenberg served 16 years in jail after she was found with a companion in New Jersey in 1984 unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons, including a submachine gun, from a car. She admitted her role in the New Jersey case, in which she had planned to supply others with explosives for politically motivated bombings.

At the time of her arrest, she was wanted on charges related to the 1981 armed robbery of a Brink's armored car in Nanuet, N.Y., a holdup that was supposed to raise money for the Weather Underground and other radical groups. But Ms. Rosenberg denied any involvement in the Brink's robbery and was never tried on those charges, because Mr. Giuliani, then the United States attorney in Manhattan, indicated that given her 58-year sentence on the New Jersey weapons charges, there was no need to proceed with that case.

She requested a pardon after federal prosecutors in 1999 cited evidence of her role in the Brink's case as a reason she should not be paroled on the New Jersey charges. Because she was never tried or convicted in the Rockland County case, it was unfair to deny her parole, her lawyer, Howard Gutman, said yesterday.

''I am confident that if each of those officials learned the true facts of the case, they would applaud the decision and would be shocked that Susan was incarcerated as long as she was,'' he said, adding that Ms. Rosenberg, who is about 45, was released from federal prison on Saturday and moved to her mother's apartment in Manhattan.

Mr. Giuliani, asked yesterday if he regretted not prosecuting Ms. Rosenberg on the Brink's charges, said he could not recall the details of the case. But even if she was not tried or convicted in the case, Ms. Rosenberg did not deserve to be freed, he said. ''She was convicted of having in her possession 740 pounds of explosives, a submachine gun, weapons,'' the mayor said. ''She admitted she had these weapons to give to someone to use in a bombing, and she had been involved in a significant number of robberies, bank robberies.''

Senator Schumer said that, even 20 years after the Rockland County robbery, the hardship continues for the families of the men killed, so Ms. Rosenberg should not have been pardoned.

David Trois, president of the Rockland County Patrolman's Benevolent Association, said he remained convinced that Ms. Rosenberg played a role in the Brink's robbery and he called the pardon an insult to all police officers.

Police Commissioner Kerik had a personal connection to Ms. Rosenberg's case. As a commander in the Passaic County Sheriff's Department in the mid-1980's, he was part of the security team that accompanied Ms. Rosenberg each day to and from her trial at the federal courthouse in Newark.

Brooke
05-22-2008, 10:53 AM
Me, too!! When we're making an accusation against Obama, we can't have him negate it with a counter-accusation about the same topic. I hope Hillary had nothing to do with pardons or is on record as having been against this particular pardon...and any other questionalbe ones!!:eek:

See above post. Bill did not pardon him.

Lodi
05-22-2008, 10:59 AM
See above post. Bill did not pardon him.

Thanks.:) I saw it after I posted, so I added a P.S. to my post and pasted in a NYT article from Jan. 2001, which talks about the pardon we were concerned about. :)

Charlie Brown
05-22-2008, 11:01 AM
guys.. PLEASE do your research.. BIll Clinton DID NOT pardon Ayer...

terrorist AYERS who planned the bombing.. DID NOT SERVE 1 day in prison.. he got off on a technicality..

Bill clinton pardoned member of the weather ungrd who had served many many years in prison..

research first please.. use wikipedia..

Hannity is already bringing this up on his show...i think knowing why will help down the road.

Lodi
05-22-2008, 11:14 AM
Ohhh nooo!

duchess5
05-22-2008, 12:00 PM
201 F street lower leval Washington.D.C....I heard directly from Cliff Kincaid.

I accused him of being "UnAmerican" by holing on to this infor mation too long

plus I believed he had enough clout to be heard if he wanted to.There are

multiple right wing radio programs that would love this information'

However I believe the right wants to run against Obama and would hold this

dynamite till the general election.I tried reaching the Clinton Campaign to no

avail,Howard Wolfson Stephanie Tubbs Jones hopefully received the message.

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 12:20 PM
What time does this press conference start?
I wish I could be there to listen in.

Dendy
05-22-2008, 01:33 PM
What time does this press conference start?
I wish I could be there to listen in.

2pm

NewHamster
05-22-2008, 01:36 PM
Howard Dean, Pelosi, etc should WANT this info! Why would they turn away from info that could sink their Chosen One AFTER it's too late???? I just don't get it..:confused:

brussell
05-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Charles Dean, brother of Presidential candidate Howard Dean, who in 1972 had applied to go into the Peace Corps and do work with them in Nepal, but he'd deferred his entry to work on the McGovern campaign. Evidently he took a freighter to Japan, made his way to Australia and eventually wound up in Laos. In fall 1974, he and an Australian friend were on a boat going up the Mekong River when apparently they were seized by members of the Pathet Lao, the communist government of Laos. According to the best information, Charlie Dean and his companion had been executed by the Pathet Lao in late 1974.

http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/2629/2016070.html

more info:
http://www.crocuta.net/Dean/Charlie_Dean.htm

brussell
05-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Dear Yahoo!:
What's the difference between communism, fascism, and socialism?
Shelly
Houston, Texas
Dear Shelly:
"This ism, that ism. Ism, ism, ism."

John Lennon was right -- there are a lot of "isms." The ones you mention are politically loaded and often used interchangeably, although the meanings are actually quite different. Hopefully, the definitions below explain the differences. However, please note that definitions don't always mimic real-world scenarios.

In very broad strokes, socialism is an economic system in which "the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy." In modern societies, socialism often attempts to eradicate class divisions. While the word "socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism," the two aren't the same -- communism is a more extreme form of socialism.

Communism advocates the "collective ownership of property and the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members." While communism is first and foremost an economic system, it's also a political ideology that rejects religion. And just as communism is a form of socialism, Marxism, Maoism, and Leninism are branches of communism.

Like socialism and communism, fascism uses a central authority to maintain control, but "terror and censorship" are common. It results from economic failure in democratic political systems. Interestingly, while socialism and communism are both on the left end of the political spectrum, fascism contains elements of both "left and right ideology" and rises from economic collapse. The most famous fascist was Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. That ought to tell you it's not a good way to run a country.
http://ask.yahoo.com/20050920.html

xfiles
05-22-2008, 02:16 PM
The reason is that they are in bed with Obama and members of radical leftist groups themeselves. This explains how and why this Obama phenom is happening. The powers that be are in on it!!!


All these people hold political seats. Why aren't they investigated as well? Maybe I'm reading this wrong. The government doesn't look at the DSA as a threat?

suerw
05-22-2008, 02:18 PM
Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck04.07.08.html

I know in these same formative years that I was influenced by American History and patriotism in school, at home and almost everywhere.

That is part of the reason that I am a true patriot to this day.

Obama was indoctrinated with this garbage during his formative years so I don't think he even knows what true American patriotism is.

It's obvious this indoctrination stayed with him in the associates he sought out and in his church!

When is American going to wake up? Before it's too late?

If all this is correct, Obama was groomed from an early age. Could this explain why he appears not to know what he really thinks, what his own values really are? Because he doesn't have any, only what he was fed and indoctrinated with. There are enough very serious questions already to disqualify him as a candidate, but it hasn't taken hold. If all this is correct, hopefully there are some honest main stream journalists (Fox perhaps?) who will powerfully bring this information to light -- and now, not later.

Ohio mom
05-22-2008, 02:22 PM
If all this is correct, Obama was groomed from an early age. Could this explain why he appears not to know what he really thinks, what his own values really are? Because he doesn't have any, only what he was fed and indoctrinated with. There are enough very serious questions already to disqualify him as a candidate, but it hasn't taken hold. If all this is correct, hopefully there are some honest main stream journalists (Fox perhaps?) who will powerfully bring this information to light -- and now, not later.

Instead of the Twilight Zone...maybe we are involved and witnessing an episode of The X-Files!!!:D:eek:

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 02:24 PM
Will this be broadcasted on the net?
The press conference starts in 34 minutes.
I'm very excited to hear what they dug up.

Bacio83
05-22-2008, 02:24 PM
^^^^^^^^^ Def. sounds more like the xfiles!

Okay I have to go to a HSA meeting cause our health care coverage is changing. Please if anyone gets word on what's going down post it here! This could be awesome.

suerw
05-22-2008, 02:35 PM
. . . . The way the media has been operating in the last 6 months is a perfect example of controlled media. With Obama as president you can almost imagine where the freedom of speech is going to go.
This is a huge danger and if unstopped, the consequences will be devastating. I can never live in America under Obama.
Just the idea of it is absolutely sickening to me.

Early on a friend, who is very sharp in analyzing political matters, said that she believed Obama's candidacy was part of some larger conspiracy. She's not the sort to be an alarmist or buy into far-out conspiracy theories, so I tucked that thought away and have kept it in mind when watching Obama and the media bandwagon for him. Kept wondering -- why this relatively unknown first term Illinois senator who is obviously lacking experience and has difficulty stating any point without his carefully crafted and deliberately vague script? .... If all these links we are seeing here can be tied together, that would explain a lot. And if all true, the links MUST be tied together and presented in a way that will shock the American people into waking up!!

xfiles
05-22-2008, 02:38 PM
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf


The above documents contain a lot of what the press conference will be about.

I called the phone # listed for Kinkaid and got a recording but I aked if it was going to be recorded to be posted on You Tube. Haven't heard back.

I HOPE someone covers it and it gets into the MSM.

We have to also spread the word.

I sent info about the press conference to media and others last night but it sadly may get shoved under the rug as some kook trying to harm Obama.

Or, he can't be blamed for who he associates with!

I also sent it to the RNC. Maybe they will have someone there if they read their messages.

*sigh*

xfiles
05-22-2008, 02:41 PM
They are tied together quite well in these 2 documents.

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf


Blog this stuff everywhere. Send everywhere!!!


Early on a friend, who is very sharp in analyzing political matters, said that she believed Obama's candidacy was part of some larger conspiracy. She's not the sort to be an alarmist or buy into far-out conspiracy theories, so I tucked that thought away and have kept it in mind when watching Obama and the media bandwagon for him. Kept wondering -- why this relatively unknown first term Illinois senator who is obviously lacking experience and has difficulty stating any point without his carefully crafted and deliberately vague script? .... If all these links we are seeing here can be tied together, that would explain a lot. And if all true, the links MUST be tied together and presented in a way that will shock the American people into waking up!!

VANITY4HILLARY
05-22-2008, 02:42 PM
ok so nobody know where this will be broadcasted?
U kno what guys this remind me of that mini series movie v
whe the aliens come from out of space to pretend to be our friends

B positive
05-22-2008, 02:46 PM
ok so nobody know where this will be broadcasted?
U kno what guys this remind me of that mini series movie v
whe the aliens come from out of space to pretend to be our friends

Vanity- I loved that V mini-series:o I thought I was alone

I've done a bunch of searching... it's all over the net so enough people are aware but there are no live recordings occurring that I could find... we'll just have to keep looking and waiting.

P.S. DNC just got sued by some FL SDs!

Brooke
05-22-2008, 02:59 PM
I thought CSPAN was airing it, no?

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 03:01 PM
I watching c-span and they are just showing the congress

xfiles
05-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Kinkaid said between 2-4pm today due to the sensitive nature of the interview and there was a phone number for people and press to call to get details of exact location.

I think he is afraid of Obamabots and possibly even for his life!

So it could be as late as 4pm today from what I understand.

brussell
05-22-2008, 03:05 PM
Here's the place, now we just need a video link up ;-)

http://ebenezerscoffeehouse.com/

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:06 PM
Instead of the Twilight Zone...maybe we are involved and witnessing an episode of The X-Files!!

If so, someone please let me know when it ends. I just don't like watching that episode anymore

xfiles
05-22-2008, 03:08 PM
Is this where the press conference is being held?


Here's the place, now we just need a video link up ;-)

http://ebenezerscoffeehouse.com/

Peppermint Patty
05-22-2008, 03:10 PM
If all this is correct, Obama was groomed from an early age. Could this explain why he appears not to know what he really thinks, what his own values really are? Because he doesn't have any, only what he was fed and indoctrinated with. There are enough very serious questions already to disqualify him as a candidate, but it hasn't taken hold. If all this is correct, hopefully there are some honest main stream journalists (Fox perhaps?) who will powerfully bring this information to light -- and now, not later.

A real "Manchurian Candidate"!!! :eek::eek:

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:14 PM
I don’t see this anywhere on TV!!!
So frustrating!! I’m sure we can get more airtime in Russia than here!!! What is going on????:mad:

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Press conference at a coffee house?
geez.
I thought this was at a real area with actual press

underpaidnurse
05-22-2008, 03:17 PM
not to be a wet blanket but:

The repubs won't release the bombshell until its to late for Hillary, they can not win against her.

The name of the informant "house on un american affairs" has a certain mccarthy sound to it and it will be easy for the MSM to spin it as some kind of radical wing.

I am all for exposing the man, and when I spoke to my father about what he remembers of the Weather Underground living in San Francisco during that time, he said it was domestic terrorism. I think his relationship with these people is very telling about his mindset. There is a huge debate about nature vs. nurture, but one thing is for sure, those that you surround yourself with help shape the view you have of the world.

Shame on you Obama.

mkreyns
05-22-2008, 03:22 PM
Well I doubt if he can be stopped.Its written and I hope this does not happen over night with him in office.I hope this happen when I hit the bucket.The American people r the most pathetic and most gullible people in the world.Telling Americans who to freaking vote for.......SAD

We have to have faith and try. I will post the video as soon as I can find it on UTube

http://www.revelation13.net/

YouTube - The 2008 U.S. Election and the Bible Code and Astrology

http://www.youtube.com/Revelation13net

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:29 PM
TThe repubs won't release the bombshell until its to late for Hillary, they can not win against her.

I’m sure Obama has dirt on McCain as well.
It’s in everyone’s best interest to report whatever there is on this guy now.
And it’s not just republicans…it’s everyone!

xfiles
05-22-2008, 03:31 PM
I agree with this theory. He accidentally spouts something Marxist and then has to go back and deny it or explain what he meant, etc. I really don't think he is all that bright myself! But he is stealthy and able to fool other fools!


If all this is correct, Obama was groomed from an early age. Could this explain why he appears not to know what he really thinks, what his own values really are? Because he doesn't have any, only what he was fed and indoctrinated with. There are enough very serious questions already to disqualify him as a candidate, but it hasn't taken hold. If all this is correct, hopefully there are some honest main stream journalists (Fox perhaps?) who will powerfully bring this information to light -- and now, not later.

MaryKay
05-22-2008, 03:43 PM
Keep us posted on this.

brussell
05-22-2008, 03:45 PM
(Feb 26, 2008): "Obama's Women Reveal His Secret" (Asia Times)

[quote]"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation. [/quote
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=2811&highlight=women+reveal+his+secret

Mother worked at Ford Foundation
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14obama.html?pagewanted=print

http://www.fordfound.org/

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:50 PM
"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation.

OMG:eek:

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:52 PM
Audio of the conference:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Annie
05-22-2008, 03:53 PM
OMG:eek:

That's old stuff - it was out several months ago.... Nothing new.

LJSNAustin
05-22-2008, 03:55 PM
I guess my question would be...How can he be a Senator with all of his corupt friends and ties?

My question exactly...wouldn't he also need top secret security clearance in order to be a U.S. Senator?

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 03:56 PM
I'm reading the pdf files and they are shocking.
It deserves it's own thread

Dendy
05-22-2008, 03:56 PM
That's old stuff - it was out several months ago.... Nothing new.

I didn't know.
The conference is of the FL delegates not the Obama communism connection.

Annie
05-22-2008, 03:59 PM
HERE IT IS FOLKS....

This might already be on here, but here are the full details of what will be discussed tomorrow. I haven't had time to read them yet so lets all sift through them and see whats gonna be a hit....

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

Okay....so.....does the FBI have this? How to get it to them...Surely Kincaid can do that or perhaps he wants many people to create an uproar to get them to take action. :confused:

Looks like it will be President McCain. This wont happen in time for Hillary - unless the FBI come out now and refuse him Security Clearance. And will he have already chosen his running mate vp and what happens then?

Is Hillary totally out of the picture when he does that? This is what I have been thinking is the DNC 's plan all along. Maybe Ted Kennedy was to be there but now with his brain tumor things could change.

Annie
05-22-2008, 04:15 PM
guys.. PLEASE do your research.. BIll Clinton DID NOT pardon Ayer...

terrorist AYERS who planned the bombing.. DID NOT SERVE 1 day in prison.. he got off on a technicality..

Bill clinton pardoned member of the weather ungrd who had served many many years in prison..

research first please.. use wikipedia..


YOU TELL 'EM! This is why we are in the position we are now - with this man and his followers positioning him to be President.

Unfortunately it appears most Americans don't read just listen to the pundits on TV who are only afraid of being called racist. Well maybe they should be afraid of a lot more than that - and I am not talking stupidity - though they are...

I feel Hannity can only go so far.... but they have to do something now or it will be too late...

Patricia GA
05-22-2008, 04:19 PM
I got this today in e-mail:

Dear Friend of America's Survival, Inc. :


Today is the day! We are holding our news briefing and releasing two blockbuster reports on Obama's communist connections. A news release and the two reports are now posted at www.usasurvival.org Please send links of them to your friends and associates get them posted on blogs and other Internet sites.


We are planning to eventually post videos of the event for those who couldn't come to Washington, D.C. to attend. Thank you for your support and interest. For America's Survival, Inc.

xfiles
05-22-2008, 04:27 PM
Says videos will be posted (soon I hope!!)

Printed from America's Survival, Inc. - http://www.usasurival.org/
America's Survival Briefing, May 22, Washington, D.C.

Contact:
Fran Griffin
Griffin Communications
Phone: (703) 255-2211
E-Mail: PR@griffnews.com

Wednesday, May 14, 2008


Investigators to Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections:
Washington, DC- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process will hold a briefing on Capitol Hill to release two new explosive reports on Barack Obama's ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past.

WHAT: Briefing to release two reports: "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection" by Herbert Romerstein, and "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection" by Cliff Kincaid.

The reports are based on direct fact-finding and special access to historical, congressional, and investigatory documents.

WHEN: Thursday, May 22, at 2 p.m.

WHERE: 201 F St., NE, lower level, Washington, D.C. (Basement of Ebenezers Coffee House)

WHO: Herbert Romerstein, an author and investigative journalist, served as an investigator for the much-feared U. S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, the House Committee on Internal Security, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency. One of his recent books is the acclaimed THE VENONA SECRETS: EXPOSING SOVIET ESPIONAGE AND AMERICA'S TRAITORS.

Cliff Kincaid is an investigative journalist who specializes in analyzing the effects of communist and terrorist influence on the U.S. media. He is founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., and editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report. He is the author or coauthor of nine books, including WHY YOU CAN'T TRUST THE NEWS, and was instrumental in denying access to the U.S. media market to the Islamic terrorist Al-Jazeera television channel.

SPONSOR: America's Survival, Inc., http://www.USAsurvival.org, an independent watchdog group that monitors the United Nations and international terrorism.

BECAUSE OF LIMITED SEATING, RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED: Name, affiliation, and contact information can be called in to 443-964-8208 or sent to PR@griffnews.com or Kincaid@comcast.net.

Bets1
05-22-2008, 06:14 PM
We are planning to eventually post videos of the event for those who couldn't come to Washington, D.C. to attend. Thank you for your support and interest. For America's Survival, Inc.

Waiting and waiting and waiting ~ LOL!!

mkreyns
05-22-2008, 06:23 PM
What about the Truman Doctrine? Will that prevent a communist takeover? You know Hillary always mentions his name and his famous quote.
Then she talks about needing a president like FDR at these times. I think she is using encoded language for us to decode.

What's the news on the press conference?

mkreyns
05-22-2008, 06:29 PM
My question exactly...wouldn't he also need top secret security clearance in order to be a U.S. Senator?

No there are different levels of security clearances. How he got in the Senate though is another thing for explanation.

JMS825
05-22-2008, 06:54 PM
Wonder what info really came out in the conference today and how much of it will be covered by the MSM

delacarpa
05-22-2008, 07:23 PM
I can only imagine if this info on Obama makes to the Youtube it will zillions of hits. Much of our new now comes from the blogs and so Fox News will probably pick it up from there. Waiting till it becomes the talk of the town.

shadow
05-22-2008, 07:52 PM
Rumors are everywhere. I have a lot of difficulty giving OB credit for having the brains needed for all this.

Again a rumor,,,but I was told by a republican family member that OB is going to try to get rid of the impeachment rules and eliminate the two term rule. If that is true he plans to be a dictator. I would just laugh and say "more conspiracy theory",, but I am highly suspicious of how the DNC and the big party bigwigs are behaving. Why on earth are they tossing away any hope of winning back the white house? They are also putting the re-election of so many democratic congressmen and senators on the line. Why???

Dendy
05-22-2008, 08:10 PM
I have a lot of difficulty giving OB credit for having the brains needed for all this.
LOL:D
The same thing crossed my mind.
I don’t think it’s so much him, but the people that have helped him along the way and whose views he's embarrassed.
OB has been groomed for this and he is incredibly corrupt and unscrupulous, unfit to be president.
I cannot believe that this is happening though; it’s just too crazy.

Annie
05-22-2008, 08:33 PM
Rumors are everywhere. I have a lot of difficulty giving OB credit for having the brains needed for all this.

Again a rumor,,,but I was told by a republican family member that OB is going to try to get rid of the impeachment rules and eliminate the two term rule. If that is true he plans to be a dictator. I would just laugh and say "more conspiracy theory",, but I am highly suspicious of how the DNC and the big party bigwigs are behaving. Why on earth are they tossing away any hope of winning back the white house? They are also putting the re-election of so many democratic congressmen and senators on the line. Why???

President McCain arriving in the White House on his white horse to save us all from George Orwell's 1984 coming to America in shade of Obama. Unless our damselle/heroine Hillary Rodham Clinton gets us out of this bludy mess. The more one hears the more frightening it becomes. Does America - no matter how ignorant many are - deserve this Obamanation?

p.s. Seems to me Pres.Clinton must know a lot about the background going on as he probably still has many CIA contacts. I think they have to come out front and center and say it like it is OR JUST START ANOTHER PARTY NOW!

MaryKay
05-22-2008, 08:34 PM
From one MK to another MK... MK...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Doctrine

Amy Dugan
05-22-2008, 09:04 PM
did i miss the press conference? when i google obama, nothing bad comes up

Dendy
05-22-2008, 09:14 PM
did i miss the press conference? when i google obama, nothing bad comes up
We are waiting for the video.
I wish it was only google, when I turn my TV on there is nothing bad about him either.;)

Eddie3dfx
05-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Gotta pressure kincaid to release it soon.

xfiles
05-22-2008, 09:20 PM
Send it to the UK media. They love this stuff. Also, call Kinkaid and email him.

His info is on the original thread about the 5/22 press conference on the last page or 2.


Gotta pressure kincaid to release it soon.

shadow
05-22-2008, 10:25 PM
Send it to the UK media

Yes. If anyone has anything backed up, send it to the UK. They have no fear of telling the truth. The media in this country just is not going to reveal anything about OB.

mkreyns
05-22-2008, 10:44 PM
From one MK to another MK... MK...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Doctrine

I know what the Truman Doctrine is, I wonder why we cannot stop communism with this.

Ijane
05-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Bill Ayres is a true domestic terrorist who didn't spend any time in jail and to this day is not only totally unrepentant but feels his crimes were justified. He lives a very nice life and is a university professor.

Amazing what money can buy.

MaryKay
05-22-2008, 10:57 PM
I know what the Truman Doctrine is, I wonder why we cannot stop communism with this.

Oh, sorry. Thought you were asking for the doctrine.

Vici57
05-22-2008, 11:26 PM
I was checking to see whatelse might be out there on OB and I ran across this blog from someone that has known him a while. It's an interesting read.
It is along the same lines as what is being said about him.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508

xfiles
05-23-2008, 12:03 AM
bumping this up! Important. Does anyone have PR media contacts to send this to?

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

suerw
05-23-2008, 12:19 AM
I was checking to see whatelse might be out there on OB and I ran across this blog from someone that has known him a while. It's an interesting read.
It is along the same lines as what is being said about him.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508

Good article. Thanks for posting the link, Vici57.

LadyVT
05-23-2008, 12:24 AM
Someone asked how did he become Senator. In this:

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

there's a page that looks like a page out of a newspaper--it's a newsletter, and it it is a section about Obama, running for Senate.

It says fortunately he is running unopposed.

That's how.

DrLisa
05-23-2008, 12:34 AM
Has anybody heard any more about this on the news or what this all means?

LadyVT
05-23-2008, 12:43 AM
DrLisa, haven't heard a peep from the press. I believe what it means is that Obama's early childhood immersion in Communism and Socialism influenced his own value system to the point that as an adult he sought out and has been mentored by like-minded people he'd either met in childhood or met as an adult. Those people have orchestrated his rise in politics and continue to influence him.

xfiles
05-23-2008, 12:45 AM
No videos yet but go to

http://www.usasurvival.org and read the communist connection docs and some of the others.

You will see that what it's all about it that there is a communist/marxist connection and group of people behind and with Obama.

Howard Dean is one so that explains how/why he is being rammed down our throats.

I don't think Dean even realizes how seriously deep Obama is into marxism/communism but it doesn't matter.

Dean is a traitor!

Has anybody heard any more about this on the news or what this all means?

xfiles
05-23-2008, 12:53 AM
Obama friend William Ayers' wall outside his professorial office:

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck04.28.08.html

Dendy
05-23-2008, 01:51 AM
Obama friend William Ayers' wall outside his professorial office
Interesting. Thanks for the link.

B positive
05-23-2008, 02:42 AM
Found a story outlining the Press Conference:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

Someone posted this on another thread so I thought I would put the link here, too.

B positive
05-23-2008, 02:57 AM
bump... go to the article, scroll down and DIGG it!!! ;)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

Mrsawd
05-23-2008, 03:22 AM
So does this mean they are gonna do any thing abot all tis of are they letting this scum bag Obama do as he damn well pleases

xfiles
05-23-2008, 03:27 AM
If THEY is the DNC, no because Howard Dean is in on it.

Unless they are called out and finally realize Obama is a doomed candidate, I think they will foolishly keep pushing him on us.

Perhaps others will force the DNC's hand so we need to blog this information everywhere, send to the press, etc.

So does this mean they are gonna do any thing abot all tis of are they letting this scum bag Obama do as he damn well pleases

VANITY4HILLARY
05-23-2008, 03:35 AM
So does this mean they are gonna do any thing abot all tis of are they letting this scum bag Obama do as he damn well pleases

Its the American way of life.For Christ sake blk people voted back in a mayor in some state/city right?So basically what I am saying this man cannot be stopped.I give prop's to Hillary for staying in.....Hillary needs to leave the dem party and run as a independent and ruin the dem party(but if she was to leave the party would she have to give up her senate seat?).
I am beginning to think maybe those conservatives was right that the left is a bunch of evil satanic people.

duchess9
05-23-2008, 10:08 AM
hopefully all of you will do the same,we must flood there inbox....surely someone will have the courage to report on this material and soon.

Is anyone contacting Montana and SD about this Obama mess?

indigo
05-23-2008, 10:35 AM
URGENT. We need to send this to every SD...and maybe the FBI.

Patricia GA
05-23-2008, 10:48 AM
I got this e-mail today from Kincaid:

Dear Friend of America's Survival, Inc. :

We held our news briefing and released two blockbuster reports on Obama's communist connections. The news release and the two reports are posted at www.usasurvival.org Please send links of them to your friends and associates in order to get them posted on blogs and other Internet sites.

Several television camera crews were there, including one from Russia. Isn't that interesting? Perhaps they were interested in the information we had on Obama's alleged links to Russia through various communist agents. What do you think? We'll monitor what gets reported.

Meanwhile, Jerry Corsi of WorldNetDaily has a good story about our event. You can always count on Jerry to cover the events that matter and you can read his article here.

A wise-guy "journalist" from the Washington Post, who was identified to me as a notorious Obama supporter, also turned in a story. You can read it here. Needles to say, he tried to dismiss or cast doubt on most of our information.

There used to be a time when a Post story might make a difference in the media in terms of follow-up. But with new alternative media, such as WorldNetDaily, the story gets out anyway and gets picked up far and wide. Plus, we recorded the event and will be posting that material shortly. So people will be able to see the event for themselves and make their own judgments.

If you see any pick-up on our news briefing, please send it along to us. I am unable to see or monitor everything out there. Please send it to Kincaid@comcast.net Thank you for your interest and support.

Bets1
05-23-2008, 10:48 AM
bump... go to the article, scroll down and DIGG it!!! ;)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

Dugg it!

Ohio mom
05-23-2008, 11:01 AM
so was this press conference for real or just another scheme to suck us in for ratings??? I heard zilch on the news :eek::eek::eek: surprise surprise...what did they discuss if it was in fact legit???

Dendy
05-23-2008, 11:08 AM
Several television camera crews were there, including one from Russia. Isn't that interesting?

I was making the point yesterday that even in Russia you can get more airtime than in US.
What’s happening in our media is extremely alarming and I’m afraid that if not confronted we may wake up one day and see that all own precious rights are gone.

suerw
05-23-2008, 04:31 PM
so was this press conference for real or just another scheme to suck us in for ratings??? I heard zilch on the news :eek::eek::eek: surprise surprise...what did they discuss if it was in fact legit???

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=65066
I read this and it appears that the information is pretty well documented. Doesn't sound like this was by any means a major press conference, but it is stated that a rep of the Washington Post was there and wrote an article -- but possibly the article was another apologist piece for Obama. .... I cannot believe that some key operatives in the Republican Party aren't watching this, though. We don't receive most of the talk radio programs here in my area, but I'd be surprised if at least some of this doesn't hit conservative talk radio.
What Kincaid has done is connect links -- from Obama's parents and grandparents, to his mentors in his formative years, to his church, to his backers when he first became a community organizer and entered politics in Illinois, and onward. It makes plain that the "questionable associations" he has tried to brush off are not exceptions. They are part of a well orchestrated pattern and plan. I think that is what makes Kincaid's report and press conference potentially dynamite if the right people get hold of and use it.

Patricia GA
05-23-2008, 05:07 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=65066
I read this and it appears that the information is pretty well documented. Doesn't sound like this was by any means a major press conference, but it is stated that a rep of the Washington Post was there and wrote an article -- but possibly the article was another apologist piece for Obama. .... I cannot believe that some key operatives in the Republican Party aren't watching this, though. We don't receive most of the talk radio programs here in my area, but I'd be surprised if at least some of this doesn't hit conservative talk radio.
What Kincaid has done is connect links -- from Obama's parents and grandparents, to his mentors in his formative years, to his church, to his backers when he first became a community organizer and entered politics in Illinois, and onward. It makes plain that the "questionable associations" he has tried to brush off are not exceptions. They are part of a well orchestrated pattern and plan. I think that is what makes Kincaid's report and press conference potentially dynamite if the right people get hold of and use it.


If this report could be presented without chopping it up it makes a much clearer picture. And it would be harder for Obama to make his excuses believable.

indigo
05-23-2008, 05:41 PM
and received 4 very irate emails that it was malicious and Mc Carthy-like. I guess this is just another topic we can't talk about regarding Obama.

ssmith
05-23-2008, 05:45 PM
if these SDs are that dumb and still nominate this fraud.. I can't wait if they nominate the arrogant empty-suit.. the repubs have a 1000 dossier, and its growing.. they will go after that fraud BIG time..

all these SDs will be shaking in their boots for their jobs! and their stupidity!

xfiles
05-23-2008, 05:46 PM
Write them back and in the future put a disclaimer which is what I do.

Even if you don't believe this or don't want to believe it, it should still give you pause because the associations ARE real. And please consider that many millions of voters have researched Obama and they have serious doubts about him, serious enough not to give him the benefit of the doubt for the highest office in this country. Even the slightest doubt will make him a flawed candidate. Since the idea is to win in the fall Hillary is the far better candidate (list a few reasons)


and received 4 very irate emails that it was malicious and Mc Carthy-like. I guess this is just another topic we can't talk about regarding Obama.

Dendy
05-23-2008, 06:37 PM
When is this video coming out? Does any body know?

mkreyns
05-23-2008, 08:04 PM
Could Barack Obama Get A Security Clearance? by Cliff Kincaid. This is an overview of the two reports we just recieved and questions Obama's ability to be approved for a top secret security clearance.

http://onekit.enr-corp.com/1003946/index.html

B positive
05-23-2008, 08:40 PM
Write them back and in the future put a disclaimer which is what I do.

Even if you don't believe this or don't want to believe it, it should still give you pause because the associations ARE real. ... ... Even the slightest doubt will make him a flawed candidate. ...

I completely agree w/ you! It's the facts for us and the doubts for others that make him so unelectable!

xfiles
05-23-2008, 08:47 PM
I just got an email response from Kinkaid about when the video will come out--"In about a week."

Told him not soon enough.

Anyone here a video guru who can help this guy and/or encourage him?

kincaid@comcast.net

duchess9
05-24-2008, 10:19 AM
Does anyone have the numbers from these 2 states? The media is not talking about it at all,I am curious.Is Hillary behind in both and just expected to win in PuertoRico?

I am sick that all we know about Obama is being kept from the voters in these last races......however I did send the latest from Cliff Kincaid to there news bureau........Will a blowout in PR be enough?

I do know a Congressman Griffin(?) from Florida,along with reps from both camps filed a lawsuit against the DNC to count all votes and all delegates.(He was a John edwards supporter)I do not know if he filed with the Justice,Cival rights dept....that would be great if he did.

Ohio mom
05-24-2008, 12:36 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=65066
I read this and it appears that the information is pretty well documented. Doesn't sound like this was by any means a major press conference, but it is stated that a rep of the Washington Post was there and wrote an article -- but possibly the article was another apologist piece for Obama. .... I cannot believe that some key operatives in the Republican Party aren't watching this, though. We don't receive most of the talk radio programs here in my area, but I'd be surprised if at least some of this doesn't hit conservative talk radio.
What Kincaid has done is connect links -- from Obama's parents and grandparents, to his mentors in his formative years, to his church, to his backers when he first became a community organizer and entered politics in Illinois, and onward. It makes plain that the "questionable associations" he has tried to brush off are not exceptions. They are part of a well orchestrated pattern and plan. I think that is what makes Kincaid's report and press conference potentially dynamite if the right people get hold of and use it.

I wish we could figure out the reasoning for the huge amount of support this fraud has and why!!!

mcgowan.swan
05-24-2008, 04:51 PM
today is the 24th,, so what happened to the meeting??????????????????

xfiles
05-24-2008, 05:33 PM
The press conference was held and there are about 50 posts about it if you skim this whold thread.

Also, there are pdf and other files at:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

Click on the link there.

For some reason my browser is redirecting me to a USA survival page about how to survive a nuclear war.

I think some hanky panky is going on!



today is the 24th,, so what happened to the meeting??????????????????

NoSocialismPlz
05-25-2008, 06:49 PM
Got some more connections for you guys... Get the word out!

1. Obama's Father Was a Socialist
http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html

2. Obama's Mother Was a Communist Sympathizer
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.html

3. Obama's teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known communist)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

4. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html)
5. Obama was hand picked by Alice Palmer, a known communist, to succeed her in the Illinois state senate
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

6. Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago home. Ayers is a former terrorist from the Weather Underground and communist
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

7. Obama attended several meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

8. Obama endorsed openly socialist senator Bernie Sanders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A

9. The Chicago Democratic Socialists Endorsed Obama
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

10. The Communist Party USA Endorsed Obama:

"Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election."
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

(This line has since been removed from the CPUSA website)

11. Obama's church is rooted in black liberation theology, liberation theology is rooted in Marxism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE
(about half way through covers this)

12. The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/

13. Michelle Obama's Marxist Thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk

There are many more references, you can get to a lot of them via the links provided above.

NoSocialismPlz
05-25-2008, 06:55 PM
Got some more connections for you guys... Get the word out!

1. Obama's Father Was a Socialist
http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html

2. Obama's Mother Was a Communist Sympathizer
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.html

3. Obama's teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known communist)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

4. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html)
5. Obama was hand picked by Alice Palmer, a known communist, to succeed her in the Illinois state senate
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

6. Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago home. Ayers is a former terrorist from the Weather Underground and communist
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

7. Obama attended several meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

8. Obama endorsed openly socialist senator Bernie Sanders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A

9. The Chicago Democratic Socialists Endorsed Obama
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

10. The Communist Party USA Endorsed Obama:

"Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election."
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

(This line has since been removed from the CPUSA website)

11. Obama's church is rooted in black liberation theology, liberation theology is rooted in Marxism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE
(about half way through covers this)

12. The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/

13. Michelle Obama's Marxist Thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk

There are many more references, you can get to a lot of them via the links provided above.



I e-mailed a lot of this stuff to Cliff Kincaid (the parts that weren't covered in the reports) and he replied with:

"We didn't put everything into our reports. There is much more."


WOW...even more than what I just posted? Obama is DAMAGED GOODS. If and when this info gets around anybody that loves this country will ensure that he is DONE as a candidate for POTUSA.

Tea toaD
05-25-2008, 07:59 PM
I read on a repub. website that they are getting a person in place to take over what Rove did for Bush to find stuff on Obama. I know they already have some but I guess they are doing this even if McCain says he doesn't want 'dirty politics". I wish this stuff would get out now. Before the convention;) At this rate, maybe it will.

shadow
05-25-2008, 11:05 PM
13. Michelle Obama's Marxist Thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk

This video is great. And is one huge reason why I cannot ever support the man.

brussell
05-26-2008, 10:33 AM
Obama as You've Never Known Him!
By Dana Milbank
Friday, May 23, 2008

Dana was at the news conference ...
These and many other implausible accusations were offered by a group of conservatives yesterday -- including a living relic from the House Committee on Un-American Activities -- in a Capitol Hill basement. The charges ranged from the absurd to the merely questionable, but anybody who watched the Swift Boat campaign of 2004 make John Kerry look like a war criminal knows that's not the point.

The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy took a blow with Hillary Clinton's collapse. But it is regrouping, and finding plenty of sinister things to say about Obama -- even if he didn't trade cattle futures.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/22/AR2008052203905.html?hpid=topnews

samkm
05-26-2008, 11:09 AM
brussell, thanks. very good article.

Here are some things we can look forward to learning about Barack Obama:

· That he was mentored in high school by a member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party.

· That he launched his Illinois state Senate campaign in the home of a terrorist and a killer.

· That while serving as a state senator, he was a member of a socialist front group.

· That his affiliations are so dodgy that he would have trouble getting a government security clearance.

· That there is reason to doubt his "loyalty to the United States."

Good article worth sending to all super delegates.

Dendy
05-26-2008, 11:15 AM
Wow! Thanks for the link.
I wonder if the story will get more coverage now. It’s mind boggling to me that you have all this facts and no one is reporting on it. It’s just criminal.

NoSocialismPlz
05-26-2008, 11:37 AM
Obama as You've Never Known Him!
By Dana Milbank
Friday, May 23, 2008

Dana was at the news conference ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/22/AR2008052203905.html?hpid=topnews


Per Kincaid this guy is in the tank for Obama...

Dear Friend of America's Survival, Inc. :

We held our news briefing and released two blockbuster reports on Obama's communist connections. The news release and the two reports are posted at www.usasurvival.org Please send links of them to your friends and associates in order to get them posted on blogs and other Internet sites.

Several television camera crews were there, including one from Russia. Isn't that interesting? Perhaps they were interested in the information we had on Obama's alleged links to Russia through various communist agents. What do you think? We'll monitor what gets reported.

Meanwhile, Jerry Corsi of WorldNetDaily has a good story about our event. You can always count on Jerry to cover the events that matter and you can read his article here.

A wise-guy "journalist" from the Washington Post, who was identified to me as a notorious Obama supporter, also turned in a story. You can read it here. Needles to say, he tried to dismiss or cast doubt on most of our information.

There used to be a time when a Post story might make a difference in the media in terms of follow-up. But with new alternative media, such as WorldNetDaily, the story gets out anyway and gets picked up far and wide. Plus, we recorded the event and will be posting that material shortly. So people will be able to see the event for themselves and make their own judgments.

If you see any pick-up on our news briefing, please send it along to us. I am unable to see or monitor everything out there. Please send it to Kincaid@comcast.net Thank you for your interest and support.

NoSocialismPlz
05-26-2008, 11:42 AM
Got some more connections for you guys... Get the word out!

1. Obama's Father Was a Socialist
http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html

2. Obama's Mother Was a Communist Sympathizer
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.html

3. Obama's teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known communist)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

4. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html)
5. Obama was hand picked by Alice Palmer, a known communist, to succeed her in the Illinois state senate
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

6. Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago home. Ayers is a former terrorist from the Weather Underground and communist
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

7. Obama attended several meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

8. Obama endorsed openly socialist senator Bernie Sanders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A

9. The Chicago Democratic Socialists Endorsed Obama
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

10. The Communist Party USA Endorsed Obama:

"Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election."
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

(This line has since been removed from the CPUSA website)

11. Obama's church is rooted in black liberation theology, liberation theology is rooted in Marxism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE
(about half way through covers this)

12. The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/

13. Michelle Obama's Marxist Thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk

There are many more references, you can get to a lot of them via the links provided above.

Does anybody have anything to add to this list?

Elijah4Hillary
05-26-2008, 11:45 AM
Hey you guys,
Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary -- I think in Indiana. I'll try to find out more info about that. But we need to be careful. We don't want to be putting anything out there that could come back and bite us in the a$$ and possibly hurt Hillary.

CGP
05-26-2008, 11:48 AM
Hey you guys,
Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary -- I think in Indiana. I'll try to find out more info about that. But we need to be careful. We don't want to be putting anything out there that could come back and bite us in the a$$ and possibly hurt Hillary.

Whatever is "out there" is already out there. ;)

And Hillary Clinton is not responsible for what members of the public may choose to read or distribute on the Internet. Gosh, she already gets blamed for everything else that humankind has ever done wrong!

NoSocialismPlz
05-26-2008, 11:50 AM
Hey you guys,
Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary -- I think in Indiana. I'll try to find out more info about that. But we need to be careful. We don't want to be putting anything out there that could come back and bite us in the a$$ and possibly hurt Hillary.

Nothing damaging here...

Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary Clinton in Indiana. Palmer is a former Illinois state senator. In the '90's, she selected Obama to be her successor. But when she tried to reclaim her spot, B.O. got her kicked off the ballot.
The Chicago Tribune has the dirt on how Mr. Niceguy became state senator.
It isn't pretty.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story

It still makes B.O. look way worse than Hillary. Obama stabbed her in the back so what's the best way to get him back? Support Hillary of course! No problem...

Elijah4Hillary
05-27-2008, 03:18 AM
Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary Clinton in Indiana. Palmer is a former Illinois state senator. In the '90's, she selected Obama to be her successor. But when she tried to reclaim her spot, B.O. got her kicked off the ballot. The Chicago Tribune has the dirt on how Mr. Niceguy became state senator. It isn't pretty.
Yeah, I'm aware of all that.

Anyway, sorry for being thick-headed, but I don't understand how describing Alice Palmer as "a known communist" to try to undermine Obama is good for Hillary? I honestly don't get it. :confused:

delacarpa
05-27-2008, 11:21 AM
Hey you guys,
Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary -- I think in Indiana. I'll try to find out more info about that. But we need to be careful. We don't want to be putting anything out there that could come back and bite us in the a$$ and possibly hurt Hillary.

I think you need to rethink ALICE PALMER she is an Obama supporter. We need to get the message out she is a progressive supporter of Obama and I think he did some bad politics on her.

NoSocialismPlz
05-28-2008, 10:52 AM
Another article on this:

Barack Obama's communist connections (http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/080526)

Dendy
05-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Is this video ever coming out?

NoSocialismPlz
05-30-2008, 11:24 AM
3 More Articles on This:

The candidates and the communists [forgotten but not gone] (http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_politics0173_05_25.asp)

It’s the Communism, Stupid (http://www.aim.org/aim-report/its-the-communism-stupid/)

Obama's communist ties investigated (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Printer.aspx?id=126368)


See this quote from the 1st article:

"When one of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s supporters brought up the issue of Davis’s influence over Obama, by circulating an article I had written for AIM about Davis playing the role of Obama’s mentor, he was pilloried by the left-wing blogs. The reaction suggests awareness that the role of Davis in the formation of Obama’s political views could sink the candidate. They are desperate to keep this information suppressed."

Vici57
05-30-2008, 12:43 PM
It's great there are a few more articles out there. But unless the MSM reports on it, it just falls on deaf ears. Is there going to be a video of the meeting or not? That would help with getting the investigation out there.

NoSocialismPlz
06-11-2008, 07:07 PM
The video is posted!

They are all posted here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/americassurvival (http://www.youtube.com/user/americassurvival)

NoSocialismPlz
06-11-2008, 07:34 PM
The video is posted!

They are all posted here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/americassurvival (http://www.youtube.com/user/americassurvival)

Part 1:

YouTube - Part 1

Part 2:

YouTube - Part 2

Part 3:

YouTube - Part 3

Part 4:

YouTube - Part 4

Part 5:

YouTube - Part 5

Part 6:

YouTube - Part 6

Part 7:

YouTube - Part 7

Part 8:

YouTube - Part 8

NoSocialismPlz
06-11-2008, 09:04 PM
Transcript:

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Transcript_May_22_edited_version.pdf (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Transcript_May_22_edited_version.pdf)

NoSocialismPlz
06-12-2008, 10:43 AM
A lot of folks were waiting for these vids... We still care don't we?

Patricia GA
06-12-2008, 12:59 PM
I put a post up about them last night after I watched the videos. I did not see yours. I think it would get a lot of attention if seen by those who are clueless. They would really wonder ans ask themselves about Obama. I think Hannity could use these for a follow up to what he has said about Ayers and all. It is interesting to hear what Ayers has on his office door and office wall.

xfiles
06-12-2008, 01:08 PM
Obama is so slimey his own slime won't stick to him.

I sent this and a lot more info to people like Lanny Davis and most of the SD's etc. and got responses that were horrible. Even Lanny Davis said "quit sending me your slime".

It seems the "powers that be" are not listening and don't want to. They are in deep denial!!

Disgusting for this country that installing a Marxist candidate is more important than our country's standing, reputation and National Security!!

Patricia GA
06-12-2008, 01:11 PM
I know the power brokers will not listen. They are too party conscience. But if Hannity or someone similar would get some of this footage on the air it would be good. I sent out links in e-mails to friends and told them to forward to their friends.

Tea toaD
06-12-2008, 01:17 PM
I remember a remark by a pundit saying Obama is the least vetted and most promoted by the media. He worked as a Washington Reporter during JFK's run and that O is getting 100x more positive news than JFK ever did. He said he just couldn't believe it.

Patricia GA
06-12-2008, 01:17 PM
Please note there will be a correction in one of the videos.

It turns out there was a glitch in the videos that we posted on our May 22 briefing. One video was the same as the other. I apologize. In our rush to get these produced and posted, a mistake was made. All but one of the videos is correct. But part of Herb Romerstein's excellent speech was inadvertently omitted. We are fixing the problem and I will let you know when they are ready for viewing. They should be ready to go shortly.

Thank you for your patience.

For America,

Cliff Kincaid