CNN wants Hillary to return votes she won in WV and KY!?!

[Johnf]

This had come from CNN tonight, David Gergen and crew....they are suggesting Hillary tell them, I don't want your votes if you're racist. CNN was suggesting these two states were racist because polls taken, indicated that race mattered for 90% of them.

The point is, while I haven't listened to them in what seems like months, I listened tonight for all of 10 minutes and what I heard made me frightened for the people of Kentucky and WV. CNN are playing a very dangerous game, and they could create some very serious problems. They are turning people against one another in this country.

So do we tell all the states that were strong black, or voted against women, to have Obama give all his votes back becuase they are racist against whites, or don't like women in power?

It made me sick to hear CNN suggest Hillary denounce the voters in Kentucy and WV and give her votes back and walk out of the contest now and I really do feel we need not only to email the media, but most importantly get this message out to the people of Kentucky and WV, who should be outraged at this. CNN just called them racist and suggested their votes should not be counted. They called them rednecks, they pretty much put down Hillary's win in both these states. It was disgusting. But most importantly, they were trying to get the rest of America to hate or reject the poeple of WV, and Kentucky.

Yet, do any of these morons talk about the sexist comments, attack Hillary has endured, the lopside money, media attacks..Of course not, it's them attacking her, so why would they report themselves.

CNN tried to suggest the voters in WV and Kentucky said that race was important and did not want to vote for a black president.

I don't believe this campaign would have been like this if someone like Powell was running. He is a decent human being. Race would not have been an issue for him. People are just tired of the way Obama has conducted himself; and it was Obama who brought race into this campaign, not HIllary. No one else dare talk about it, he cries foul with everything. I believe it's one of the main reasons people are worrying. No one can say anything about anyone, with the except Obama, he can say whatever he likes about whoever he likes...it's starting to ring of dictatorship:

this pretty much sums it up:

RUSH: With Obama we started out, we couldn't talk about his big ears 'cause that made him nervous. We've gone from that to this: Not only can we not mention his ears...

We can't talk about his mother.

We can't talk about his father.

We can't talk about his grandmother unless he does, brings her up as a "typical white person."

We can't talk about his wife, can't talk about his preacher, can't talk about his terrorist friends, can't talk about his voting record, can't talk about his religion.

We can't talk about appeasement.

We can't talk about color; we can't talk about lack of color.

We can't talk about race. We can't talk about bombers and mobsters who are his friends. We can't talk about schooling. We can't talk about his name, "Hussein."

We can't talk about his lack of experience. Can't talk about his income. Can't talk about his flag pin.

This started out we can't call him a liberal.

It started out we just couldn't talk about his ears.

Now we can't say anything about him.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_051608/content/01125112.guest.html
_____________________________________


CNN is trying to get the rest of America to turn their backs on WV and Kentucky. If they keep this up, they're going to have a huge uproar on their hands. This is serious.

[ILBlue]

Which of the so called pundits said this ????

That is outrageous and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

CNN and MSNBC have said horrible things about people in PA. - WV- and now even Kentucky.

How are these networks allowed to get away with this garbage?

They are getting totally out of control. :mad:

[Area504]

Wow. Just when you think they can't say anything more outrageous than they've said the day before....

[Johnf]

Which of the so called pundits said this ????

That is outrageous and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

CNN and MSNBC have said horrible things about people in PA. - WV- and now even Kentucky.

How are these networks allowed to get away with this garbage?

They are getting totally out of control. :mad:


I can't remember his name, older gent.... They were all in a panel. Any pics of the pundits, reporters, I could pick him out.

[Bad Kitty]

This is really taking the bias cake and putting the stupidity icing on it. I'm not watching the news ever again.

[CGP]

blah blah blah

Don't waste your valuable time listening to their drivel! Why do it? Seriously, CNN is TOXIC for any Hillary supporter. TOXIC.

Turn the channel. NOW!

As they say, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. CNN has been campaigning & lying for Obama since day one. It won't be any different today, tomorrow or next week. Give up on them! I implore everyone to abandon CNN political news for your own mental well-being!!! :cool:

[Johnf]

blah blah blah

Don't waste your valuable time listening to their drivel! Why do it? Seriously, CNN is TOXIC for any Hillary supporter. TOXIC.

Turn the channel. NOW!

As they say, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. CNN has been campaigning & lying for Obama since day one. It won't be any different today, tomorrow or next week. Give up on them! I implore everyone to abandon CNN political news for your own mental well-being!!! :cool:

I understand, but I will say this. If I were WV or Kentucky today, I would be totally disgusted with CNN. I'd be complaining, calling them up and out on this. They are trying to hurt those two states. They are slandering them. This issue should be sent to the people in both states and to higher authorities.

[HillWill]

but the exit polls didn't show race was a factor in kentucky? how could they say this? how offensive. this is just another way of saying any of us who support hillary are racists. i'm gonna lose my mind any minute now...

[hillary4change]

I have some late breaking news.

I was on the chat site and someone said that brazilla came out for obama tonight!!!

She said it was something in his speech tonight!!

I think it was something to do with a certain fractured fairytale video!!!

[Artists4Hillary]

Well, let's see. 91% of the AA vote in KY went to Obama. Guess they won't vote for a white person.

This is really bad for Obama, that they do this. It's going to take so many votes away from him, he is toast in the GE. Unelectable. The destrution has begun. More insults to Hillary and her supporters.

[swannyj]

Their discussion is also excellent propaganda to try to sway the voters of Montana & South Dakota. Hope those voters watch Fox. But, my sense this sort of slinging is really starting to piss people off and will drive voters in droves to McCain if Obama is the nominee.

[hillary4change]

but the exit polls didn't show race was a factor in kentucky? how could they say this? how offensive. this is just another way of saying any of us who support hillary are racists. i'm gonna lose my mind any minute now...



Don't give them any power over you.

Be happy that she kicked his wimpy @$$ all over the great state of Kentucky!! :eek::eek::eek:

[Artists4Hillary]

but the exit polls didn't show race was a factor in kentucky? how could they say this? how offensive. this is just another way of saying any of us who support hillary are racists. i'm gonna lose my mind any minute now...

You're right. No race factor in KY. Keep insulting us. We are leaving in droves.

[Bad Kitty]

Don't give them any power over you.

Be happy that she kicked his wimpy @$$ all over the great state of Kentucky!! :eek::eek::eek:

and then maybe turn off the tv. I don't even have mine on. I won't even give them the satisfaction.

[Johnf]

Well, let's see. 91% of the AA vote in KY went to Obama. Guess they won't vote for a white person.

This is really bad for Obama, that they do this. It's going to take so many votes away from him, he is toast in the GE. Unelectable. The destrution has begun. More insults to Hillary and her supporters.

I really do feel it deserves one email to cnn, but most importantly, to the people of Kentucky and WV. They must be disgusted tonight.

Imagine attacking your own states because they didn't vote for your chosen one. How is this, how is Obama and the media bringing the country together? Shame on CNN!

If I were KY and WV, I'd be getting my political representatives and writing to CNN, getting those guys fired. They are slandering the people of WV and KY. This has to stop. What's next?

[Johnf]

and then maybe turn off the tv. I don't even have mine on. I won't even give them the satisfaction.

What they said is going to cause people in KY and WV to go after CNN. One of these pundits, who ended up being supported by other, just attacked everyone in both states. What impact do you feel this is going to have on these two states and the rest of America. CNN had better watch he doesn't set off a riot, rally, protest here. You can't do this and not expect a reaction, fallout.

They are going to have to apologize to the people of these two states, or I can see they could be in serious trouble, maybe a lawsuits?

[Artists4Hillary]

Please don't watch CNN or MSNBC. Boycott them.

[lanney]

I watch FoodNetwork or Leave it to Beaver on TVLand. Learning cooking and watch kids programme.:D

[PhillyGuy1]

Hmmm, maybe those CNN pundits are right. Hillary should tell voters not to vote based on race:

Hillary: I want to tell all the voters out there not to vote based on race. You should vote on who you sincerely believe has the most knowledge and experience to run this country - and if you do I'm confident you will nominate me to be the next President of the United States!


PhillyGuy1 :)

[Johnf]

Please don't watch CNN or MSNBC. Boycott them.

I understand, I watched them for all of 10 minutes tonight, however, most important here, is that they have now seriously crossed the line. They are verbally attacking people in their own country - entire states in order to get someone elected. This is pretty scary stuff and it needs to be stopped.

You can't ignore this.
They could put people's lives in jeapordy. Look how upset everyone here is listening to them. While we might not listen to what's on the news these days because it's so biased, there are some people who do on a regular basis...and seriously, CNN maybe putting people's lives in danger, or on the line here. They are not only attacking Hillary here, but entire states, their own country people. If this keeps up there could be a civil war and I'm not joking.

[SantaCruzen]

We must now begin to create our list of reasons which the Media has been trying to brainwash us all into the Obama Show.

We need to start listing those issues. We already know about the Race Card, Sexism and Boggotry. We need to get the New York Times list of Obama's investors. I know that I posted that here some weeks ago in some form or another. But the NYT did in fact list that he has been deceptive about his donars. He has billionaires who have done fundraising among their millionaire friends.

We most Focus on Where's the Money?

[Kbentleyis]

Murray:
The point that we shouldn't listen to CNN or MSN is good... except everyone else IS!

This type of reporting leads to some serious problems within our society. Most of those yokles don't understand that these NEWS people (and political analysts) who they depend on for TRUTH and justice, are simply crazy. The public looks at these people as the leader of "the whole world's opinion."

Yes, we know better and it's hard for anyone one of us to watch. I wouldn't for all the money since I found FOX. But all those millions of others who haven't, take these news stations as the gospel.

I don't know where this is all going to lead. There is going to be some serious trouble over this BS. No wonder the Obamabots are so nuts.

[mukunda22]

I know I have--One Day At A Time.

LOL!!

[swannyj]

They know Obama is in trouble so that are trying to make race front and center so the nomination cannot be "stolen" from him. It will probably work. MSNBC is probably doing the same thing.

[eeslaomd]

I watch FoodNetwork or Leave it to Beaver on TVLand. Learning cooking and watch kids programme.:D

hahaha. i haven't watched cnn and msnbc for weeks now. for the primaries, i go to c-span, just like today.

those pundits on cnn and msnbc (with an exception or 2) are not worth our time.

[KYWildcatFan]

I understand, but I will say this. If I were WV or Kentucky today, I would be totally disgusted with CNN. I'd be complaining, calling them up and out on this. They are trying to hurt those two states. They are slandering them. This issue should be sent to the people in both states and to higher authorities.

Ky woman here. I banned CNN and MSNBC a long time ago. I could careless what they call me. I take it on the chin just like Hillary then smile and carry on. Call me what you want (meaning the media) my family and friends know me for who I am and that is all that really matters to me!

[mcgowan.swan]

i agree we should ignore most of what cnn says but this is going far and away from a campaign issue. these idiots are going to ignite a race war the like of which we have never seen. it would behoove us as citizens rather than hillary supporters alone, to send an email to the owners and general managers of cnn, just to voice our concern at their social irresponsibility and abuse of public access. deep in my heart i believe that wright and obama never thought they could upset the clinton cart and were just intent on bringing their black theologian beliefs from speech to reality via a race war, but then obama started winning so he threw wright under the bus in favor of being president. just a feeling. i think an uprising was their intent to begin with, and to a great extent they have dried up a fertile field and left it tinder dry and ready for the smallest spark. ( i use race here as a synonym for AA because, although we have many other races that present their own stories in America, the AA experience is unique to our country in that the ancestors brought three quarters of them here. the fact that many are later emigrants or children thereof, seems not to matter to anyone. if their skin is black, they are considered African-american. it's a cultural thing, i guess.) Obama is a dangerous person with dangerous ideals, and he stands for everything that MLK was against. Martin wanted us to see each other as people not skin colors, but black theology sees black as good, white as evil, and blacks as victims needing to be repaid, rather than equal citizens taking responsibility for their own way in the world. no one alive today was here when the original transgression took place. we cant change the past, only the future. and we cant live together if one side thinks it is owed a debt from the other that can never be paid in actuality. it is an impossible situation, much like a really bad marriage that refuses to let the past go and accept counseling to move into the future. all the work we did in the sixties, and all the joy i took from seeing the two races start treating each other with love and respect, has been washed away by obama and his campaign and beliefs. we were almost there, and then this. there will always be racists for every occasion, but to blanket two entire states voters in a democratic party election as racists because they did not vote for the AA candidate and wanted hillary is just ignorant and mindboggling from any news announcer, anywhere. we are being labeled racist on our side, but the blacks voting against a white woman are legitimate votes because they have been oppressed? i fear that how i have always considered america is rapidly changing. i thought we were well on the way to a multi racial society accepting of everyone. guess i was wrong. we are on our way to becoming the intellectual prisoners of our own political correctness. when the truth becomes a racist statement just by virtue of containing reference to one race or another in context, then we are entering a dangerous version of a modern dark age, and no, dark was not intended as a racial pun ( just an example of how speech can be twisted, and the need that will arise to modify everything in a racial undertone light). Not the country or world i want to live in or leave for my grandchildren, so i will be writing the owners as it is the only recourse, as ignoring how the trend is moving would be tantamount to ignoring the fascist movement in 1933. God, please let hillary win. It won't stop what has begun, but it will certainly help us get through it and stop the instigation on a national level that would occur if obama gets to remain in the national arena. God bless us and save us, every one!!!! Go hillary!!!!!

ps. just a quick addendum.. i noticed in reading my comment here, that i have repeatedly used their side and our side to describe the issue, unconsciously, i grant, but it is indicative of a transformation that has occurred at a basic level in my thinking. i am beginning to perceive my world as divided. the black side, the white side, the female side, the male side, and although it has always been that way concerning inanimate things such as the democratic side and the republican side, etc., it has never extended to race. now it has. i see a black side of things and a white side, rather than the person side i perceived before this campaign. so much for the great uniter, obama. how very sad. however, i will try to consciously remedy this perception, even though i believe that this perception came about because the physical reality is beginning to change and i am picking up on that. i hope i am wrong, but the facts are against my being right. goodness, social philosophy is very deep and strains my mental capacity. lol all i really wanted to do was elect hillary and get back to playing online poker in my spare time. not a social commentator in the real world of my life. lol but this side of me exists and i am very serious when i put on this cap. and as an american citizen who cares about her country, i must wear this cap until i believe my country and hillary 's legacy for it are safe. good night now and God bless. Joan.

[PhillyGuy1]

I understand, I watched them for all of 10 minutes tonight, however, most important here, is that they have now seriously crossed the line. They are verbally attacking people in their own country - entire states in order to get someone elected. This is pretty scary stuff and it needs to be stopped.

What's next? Are they now going to try to get these two entire states thrown out?

PhillyGuy1

[Bad Kitty]

What they said is going to cause people in KY and WV to go after CNN. One of these pundits, who ended up being supported by other, just attacked everyone in both states. What impact do you feel this is going to have on these two states and the rest of America. CNN had better watch he doesn't set off a riot, rally, protest here. You can't do this and not expect a reaction, fallout.

They are going to have to apologize to the people of these two states, or I can see they could be in serious trouble, maybe a lawsuits?

John I hope that it has a huge impact and people start standing up and saying we won't take this biased, horrible excuse for journalism anymore.

[K.Wayne]

Does the Obama Campaign, DNC, and CNN(msm) honestly think that they can continue generalizing and insulting white working class America across the country from the "bitter" comments of PA to now and expect to court these voters in a GE if Obama is the nominee?

I simply would like to know when it became alright to openly and repeatedly insult the white working class Americans who make under a certain income and maybe haven't gone to college?

This is simply unreal. And shows really how out of touch not only Obama
is, but the msm itself.

[freespirit]

blah blah blah

Don't waste your valuable time listening to their drivel! Why do it? Seriously, CNN is TOXIC for any Hillary supporter. TOXIC.

Turn the channel. NOW!

As they say, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. CNN has been campaigning & lying for Obama since day one. It won't be any different today, tomorrow or next week. Give up on them! I implore everyone to abandon CNN political news for your own mental well-being!!! :cool:

Amen! I emailed them for a while to ask for fairness and express outrage, but they're not worth the trouble. Such an idiotic statement. If their votes are so worthless and tainted in the opinion CNN, then they should block their damn network in those states. Also, if BO steals the nom, he needs to turn down all WV and KY votes in Gen. Plus, being from MS, I'm very aware that all AAs went for BO. That was racist, as well. Let him turn them down.

[Artists4Hillary]

They can't take Obama's landslide defeat in WV and KY. This is their kind of sick payback. But they have most seriously crossed the line, and they will be taken to task.

[Johnf]

Ky woman here. I banned CNN and MSNBC a long time ago. I could careless what they call me. I take it on the chin just like Hillary then smile and carry on. Call me what you want (meaning the media) my family and friends know me for who I am and that is all that really matters to me!


I understand how you feel, and that you don't care about what they call you, but there other people in other states, who support Obama, who may not feel the same, who will care about what they hear...the negative stories about WV and KY....and not in a good way. They are trying to turn the rest of the nation against the two states who voted an overwhelming majority for Hillary and if people feel strongly enough, as CNN are conjuring up feelings of anger and resentment towards those states, suggesting racism played a part, suggesting they were not educated, some will act. For some, no one is going to come in the way of electing their messiah...

Just as you and I don't like to watch cnn, there are those who do, 24/7 and are filled with the hate and anger they hear there. They are becoming an offshoot of Obama's church....

I feel some pundits on cnn are pitting the nation off these two states and I don't like what I heard or where that is going.

[Bad Kitty]

They can't take Obama's landslide defeat in WV and KY. This is their kind of sick payback. But they have most seriously crossed the line, and they will be taken to task.

I agree with you that the whole media is very sick. They have taken it task to entertain people rather than to keep them informed. YOU SUCK MEDIA!!! YOU SUCK!!! NOW GO FOLLOW BRITTNEY AROUND FOR AWHILE!

[KYWildcatFan]

Murray:
The point that we shouldn't listen to CNN or MSN is good... except everyone else IS!

This type of reporting leads to some serious problems within our society. Most of those yokles don't understand that these NEWS people (and political analysts) who they depend on for TRUTH and justice, are simply crazy. The public looks at these people as the leader of "the whole world's opinion."

Yes, we know better and it's hard for anyone one of us to watch. I wouldn't for all the money since I found FOX. But all those millions of others who haven't, take these news stations as the gospel.

I don't know where this is all going to lead. There is going to be some serious trouble over this BS. No wonder the Obamabots are so nuts.

I do agree with you on the fact that many do watch these vile networks and do take their word as gospel. We on the forum are people who do research of our own, we find the truth and the lies. Many many people out there do not for many reasons. One being they work a job that consists of many long hours or some who work two jobs and do not have time to do what we do. Those people do rely heavily upon what these news networks spill out. Something needs to be done. The question remains..... what?????? If we say anything they turn it against us no matter how we state it. At times I feel completely helpless. It does seem to me anyway that more note is being taken about what they are saying and some are being called out for their remarks. If you had a link or the name of the person who said that comment I could fire off an email but I would need more info in order to do so.

[Artists4Hillary]

Consider. She smashed him not once, but twice in consecutive primaries. The biggest defeats in the history of primaries. He hasn't been able to do that to her in any state. They're furious. Now they are completely out of control. The flood of emails will come in, and this will be part of the protests. Everyone get on the blogs and get this out.

Write in to CNN. I'm going to.

[Trina]

CNN is so low, but I want them to know, this Kentucky Redneck Woman is proud to be a redneck and proud to stand behind my choice for President, Hillary Clinton!! It shows that I have more intelligence than they do. And I will stand behind her Now and all the way to the White House. I also am tired of hearing them say how we will "fall in line" somehow they are going to have to realize, that we will NEVER FALL IN LINE. If they cheat Hillary out of this, I will vote for McCain no matter how much I have to choke while doing it. I will never vote for someone like BHO.

[Johnf]

I do agree with you on the fact that many do watch these vile networks and do take their word as gospel. We on the forum are people who do research of our own, we find the truth and the lies. Many many people out there do not for many reasons. One being they work a job that consists of many long hours or some who work two jobs and do not have time to do what we do. Those people do rely heavily upon what these news networks spill out. Something needs to be done. The question remains..... what?????? If we say anything they turn it against us no matter how we state it. At times I feel completely helpless. It does seem to me anyway that more note is being taken about what they are saying and some are being called out for their remarks. If you had a link or the name of the person who said that comment I could fire off an email but I would need more info in order to do so.

Take this to the government level, to the people of Kentucky and WV. Who would we approach there; they need support. If they heard the news, if they know others are also listening, they'll be concerned. CNN is spreading hate propoganda against two American states.

[deniseds]

i agree we should ignore most of what cnn says but this is going far and away from a campaign issue. these idiots are going to ignite a race war the like of which we have never seen. it would behoove us as citizens rather than hillary supporters alone, to send an email to the owners and general managers of cnn, just to voice our concern at their social irresponsibility and abuse of public access. deep in my heart i believe that wright and obama never thought they could upset the clinton cart and were just intent on bringing their black theologian beliefs from speech to reality via a race war, but then obama started winning so he threw wright under the bus in favor of being president. just a feeling. i think an uprising was their intent to begin with, and to a great extent they have dried up a fertile field and left it tinder dry and ready for the smallest spark. ( i use race here as a synonym for AA because, although we have many other races that present their own stories in America, the AA experience is unique to our country in that the ancestors brought three quarters of them here. the fact that many are later emigrants or children thereof, seems not to matter to anyone. if their skin is black, they are considered African-american. it's a cultural thing, i guess.) Obama is a dangerous person with dangerous ideals, and he stands for everything that MLK was against. Martin wanted us to see each other as people not skin colors, but black theology sees black as good, white as evil, and blacks as victims needing to be repaid, rather than equal citizens taking responsibility for their own way in the world. no one alive today was here when the original transgression took place. we cant change the past, only the future. and we cant live together if one side thinks it is owed a debt from the other that can never be paid in actuality. it is an impossible situation, much like a really bad marriage that refuses to let the past go and accept counseling to move into the future. all the work we did in the sixties, and all the joy i took from seeing the two races start treating each other with love and respect, has been washed away by obama and his campaign and beliefs. we were almost there, and then this. there will always be racists for every occasion, but to blanket two entire states voters in a democratic party election as racists because they did not vote for the AA candidate and wanted hillary is just ignorant and mindboggling from any news announcer, anywhere. we are being labeled racist on our side, but the blacks voting against a white woman are legitimate votes because they have been oppressed? i fear that how i have always considered america is rapidly changing. i thought we were well on the way to a multi racial society accepting of everyone. guess i was wrong. we are on our way to becoming the intellectual prisoners of our own political correctness. when the truth becomes a racist statement just by virtue of containing reference to one race or another in context, then we are entering a dangerous version of a modern dark age, and no, dark was not intended as a racial pun ( just an example of how speech can be twisted, and the need that will arise to modify everything in a racial undertone light). Not the country or world i want to live in or leave for my grandchildren, so i will be writing the owners as it is the only recourse, as ignoring how the trend is moving would be tantamount to ignoring the fascist movement in 1933. God, please let hillary win. It won't stop what has begun, but it will certainly help us get through it and stop the instigation on a national level that would occur if obama gets to remain in the national arena. God bless us and save us, every one!!!! Go hillary!!!!!

Excellent Post. You are right. I stopped watching CNN and MSNBC weeks ago. They are now very scared. The only thing they can do is try to use the guilt factor regarding race. Ignore them. They will loose. The majority of the population is looking at this and thinking they are nuts. Including ther Republicans. OB will not win!! He has too many skeletans in his closet. Hillary 44. Keep on praying and believing in Hillary.

[VANITY4HILLARY]

As a blk person I knew this was going to happen and whites today have themselves to blame for it.Uh I knew it was a problem since I was a kid and how everything had to be so damn pc to say round a blk person or else you would be labeled a racist.Ask yourselves why you never see anything on news about blk hate crimes against white folks?Yea you knwo the answer to that one.
And let me tell you this Trust every time u see a white person getting beat down by a blk its because that person is white.Same with blk vs mexican to blk vs asian.
When I was little I remember every school year last day it was a practice by blk kids to beat up on white kids(cracka's) or gays(fags)....Sorry for the slurs but I am trying to make a point.Those words are used daily in the blk household and if any blk person here tell me I am lying than they are delusional.....

EITHER WAY MY GIRL HILLARY KICKED SOME ASS TONITE....AND I WANT THAT SPEECH OF HERS TONITE

[Johnf]

Excellent Post. You are right. I stopped watching CNN and MSNBC weeks ago. They are now very scared. The only thing they can do is try to use the guilt factor regarding race. Ignore them. They will loose. The majority of the population is looking at this and thinking they are nuts. Including ther Republicans. OB will not win!! He has too many skeletans in his closet. Hillary 44. Keep on praying and believing in Hillary.

I see CNN as fueling the race war, and the Obama people are buying into it. YOu don't go speaking out against two states the way they did and not expect problems ahead for those states and I see problems surfacing with race. There are a lot of Obama people who follow cnn, and I believe some buy into what they say. It doesn't take the majority of the population to create a riot, dissention, war...- and CNN mass media going into the homes of millins, saying what they said could have a very negative impact on the matter of race. It coudl get very ugly. People all over the world get CNN....

[deniseds]

I see CNN as fueling the race war, and the Obama people are buying into it. YOu don't go speaking out against two states the way they did and not expect problems ahead for those states and I see problems surfacing with race. There are a lot of Obama people who follow cnn, and I believe some buy into what they say. It doesn't take the majority of the population to create a riot, dissention, war...- and CNN mass media going into the homes of millins, saying what they said could have a very negative impact on the matter of race. It coudl get very ugly. People all over the world get CNN....

I think that they are trying to divide and conquer. I have pen pals I write to all over the world. You are right CNN is watched all over. Everyone is watching us and many of them especially in Australia and Europe are very concerned about BO. I am very concerned what he really means by change.

[SantaCruzen]

Does the Obama Campaign, DNC, and CNN(msm) honestly think that they can continue generalizing and insulting white working class America across the country from the "bitter" comments of PA to now and expect to court these voters in a GE if Obama is the nominee?

I simply would like to know when it became alright to openly and repeatedly insult the white working class Americans who make under a certain income and maybe haven't gone to college?

This is simply unreal. And shows really how out of touch not only Obama
is, but the msm itself.

Old Political Tricks would just work as per usual. They did not realize that Americans have been opening their eyes to all the money games because we have to eat.

Food, Food, Food.

That is what it is all about. All of those commercials for ipods and cellphones are not going to replace Food on the Table. We reached our limit as a country and we want a leader.

[Arctic907]

That's the theme his people are blogging everywhere. See this link.
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=780&pppostsubj=1&ThreadID=672547&BoardsParam=HIPDelay%3d1

[Musicdude]

CNN was suggesting these two states were racist because polls taken, indicated that race mattered for 90% of them.
.
Their figures are wrong. The other networks reported that 21% voted based on race. In North Carolina, 23% voted based on race. It works both ways. Or, it works in many ways. I have seen voters interviewed that are white and like the black president idea because its different/progressive, and voted that way. Some AA refuse to vote for an AA candidate, others will only vote for an AA candidate. The exit polls are inconclusive. They don't supply enough details to draw negative racial conclusions across the board. TV pundits who try to do so are uninformed and ignorant, and are deliberately exploiting the AA community for their own personal agenda.

[rob3gd]

SO i Guess that the Black people in north carolina that voted for Obama 92% voted for him because they like his economic policy. give me a break. It can be for various reasons and that doesnt mean that your racist. give me a BREAK.

[cowymom]

but it's ok to say "Iron my shirt"

hillary's laugh isn't geniune

hillary's tears are crocodile tears

hillary is such a b****

hillary is winning because women feel sorry for her

hillary this, hillary that

[lh4hillary]

the polls are fabricated for political aims.

[hills]

I don't believe those polls. The media has reached a stage where they will do anything for Obama to win that they might be lying. Given how Hillary supporters have been treated and how race is a very sensitive matter, I find it hard to believe that so many people might admit that as the reason for not voting fr Obama. Why doesn't CNN mention the other reasons for not supporting Obama?

Where is the sponsor list, there needs to be a boycott

[PuppyDogMom]

Just send a video clip to Geraldine Ferraro. That'll take care of it.

I agree that it's outrageous. It's so outrageous that there's no way they can get away with it.

Oh, and Donna B used CNN to declare for Obama when she was being paid? Hmmm. Nothing new their, either.

[shadow]

blah blah blah

Don't waste your valuable time listening to their drivel! Why do it? Seriously, CNN is TOXIC for any Hillary supporter. TOXIC.

Turn the channel. NOW!

As they say, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. CNN has been campaigning & lying for Obama since day one. It won't be any different today, tomorrow or next week. Give up on them! I implore everyone to abandon CNN political news for your own mental well-being!!! :cool:


I can't afford cable or satellite, and I am glad. I never see these channels and I haven't been exposed to their drivel. :p

[EH]

But it is OK for states like North Carolina and other deep south states to vote overwhelmingly for Obama? That is not reverse racism?

[ScottVA]

But it is OK for states like North Carolina and other deep south states to vote overwhelmingly for Obama? That is not reverse racism?


I agree.... if WV and KY are racist and shouldn't count then I think the same should be said for NC and SC for Bambi. I love this how whites are racist voting for Clinton.... but blacks are somehow just supporting the best candidate for them! LOL

Frankly, after this last few months.... I COULD GIVE A FAT RATS ASS about what anyone calls me! It's WAR NOW!

[VANITY4HILLARY]

That's the theme his people are blogging everywhere. See this link.
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=780&pppostsubj=1&ThreadID=672547&BoardsParam=HIPDelay%3d1

Shall we go over there and start attacking those idiots?I already started I am jechercheunhomme

[mjoynaples]

Consider. She smashed him not once, but twice in consecutive primaries. The biggest defeats in the history of primaries. He hasn't been able to do that to her in any state. They're furious. Now they are completely out of control.


AND GUESS WHO I SEE ON THE FRONT PAGE (BESIDE THE LOCAL GUY IN HIS PRISON ORANGE ARRESTED FOR A HEINOUS CRIME...) RIGHT NEXT TO THAT HEADLINE "OBAMA DECLARES CLOSER TO NOMINIATION" UNDERNEATH THIS COLUMN ARTICLE IS A TINY PIC OF HILLARY WITH A CAPTION UNDER THE PIC THAT READS "HILLARY CLINTON WAVES TO PEOPLE IN KY" WHAT THE HECK I SAY TO MYSELF...??? SHE PUMMELS HIM AGAIN... 36 POINTS AND HE GETS TOP BILLING THIS HAS GOT TO STOP... THEY SICKEN ME AND SHE WAS REALLY GIVING HIM A WAY OUT LAST NIGHT NICELY... GET OUT BO YOU ARE NOT GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY OR OUR PEOPLE WAKE UP AMERICA... AND NOW THIS CRAP THAT THESE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH VOTES WELL I CERTAINLY THINK THAT KY AND WVA NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEWS FOLKSS THINK OF THEM... MAYBE WHEN THEY SHUT OFF THEIR TVS IT WILL ALSO HAVE AN EFFECT ON BIASED MEDIAS FUTURE STATUS

John F. ... please get this story out and others too this is just horrific talk about controlling and manipulation can you imagine a White House with all these folks he would have to put in to PAY THEM BACK that is so friggin creepy... at least in HILLARY'S WHITE HOUSE it will be folks like you and me and people from KY and WVA visiting... who simply think it is a thrill that someone is doing their job for us to the best of their ability!

[Johnf]

AND GUESS WHO I SEE ON THE FRONT PAGE (BESIDE THE LOCAL GUY IN HIS PRISON ORANGE ARRESTED FOR A HEINOUS CRIME...) RIGHT NEXT TO THAT HEADLINE "OBAMA DECLARES CLOSER TO NOMINIATION" UNDERNEATH THIS COLUMN ARTICLE IS A TINY PIC OF HILLARY WITH A CAPTION UNDER THE PIC THAT READS "HILLARY CLINTON WAVES TO PEOPLE IN KY" WHAT THE HECK I SAY TO MYSELF...??? SHE PUMMELS HIM AGAIN... 36 POINTS AND HE GETS TOP BILLING THIS HAS GOT TO STOP... THEY SICKEN ME AND SHE WAS REALLY GIVING HIM A WAY OUT LAST NIGHT NICELY... GET OUT BO YOU ARE NOT GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY OR OUR PEOPLE WAKE UP AMERICA... AND NOW THIS CRAP THAT THESE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH VOTES WELL I CERTAINLY THINK THAT KY AND WVA NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEWS FOLKSS THINK OF THEM... MAYBE WHEN THEY SHUT OFF THEIR TVS IT WILL ALSO HAVE AN EFFECT ON BIASED MEDIAS FUTURE STATUS

John F. ... please get this story out and others too this is just horrific talk about controlling and manipulation can you imagine a White House with all these folks he would have to put in to PAY THEM BACK that is so friggin creepy... at least in HILLARY'S WHITE HOUSE it will be folks like you and me and people from KY and WVA visiting... who simply think it is a thrill that someone is doing their job for us to the best of their ability!


The thing that really concerns me here, is that cnn are using the race card that Obama started when Obama suggested, he could better unite people of america because of his two races. So when it suits cnn and Obama, he's white, or black.

The serious thing that is going on here is the HATE CNN is trying to instill in the people of America who support HIllary, they are trying to turn America off WV, KY, write them off, calling them racist rednecks, while accepting NC heavy black population voting heavily for the black side of Obama. What this is doing is promoting crimes of hate; against whites, against the people in these two states and the people of WV and Kentucy and Hillary are going to need more protection. CNN are trying to create a civil war here.

[Soren]

iObama ... stands for everything MLK was against. Martin wanted us to see each other as people not skin colors, but black theology sees black as good, white as evil, and blacks as victims needing to be repaid, rather than equal citizens taking responsibility for their own way in the world. .... all the work we did in the sixties, and all the joy i took from seeing the two races start treating each other with love and respect, has been washed away by obama and his campaign and beliefs. we were almost there, and then this. ... we are being labeled racist on our side, but the blacks voting against a white woman are legitimate votes because they have been oppressed? guess i was wrong. we are on our way to becoming the intellectual prisoners of our own political correctness. when the truth becomes a racist statement just by virtue of containing reference to one race or another in context, then we are entering a dangerous version of a modern dark age, and no, dark was not intended as a racial pun ( just an example of how speech can be twisted, and the need that will arise to modify everything in a racial undertone light). good night now and God bless. Joan.

logic is gone
logic is dead
thoughts are just ribbons
that come from the head

[Johnf]

I sent something on to CNN suggesting that one of their pundits, by claiming Hillary should not accept the votes of people from WV or Kentucky because it was inplied they were racist because they claimed in some poll the people in these states said race mattered....that by allowing that statement to air, they were instilling hate towards the people of these states, and also Hillary.

They were also contrasting the level of education between these states and Oregon, implying people in WV and Ky were not as smart, or educated, they were poor, rednecks, so they voted Hillary, whereas the educated, smart, voted Obama. That Hillary should not accept their votes. While, NC, with a heavy black population, with a mayor who was prepared to cheat in order to get Obama a win, was ok to vote mostly for Hillary, and race is not used. The pundit on CNN was attacking not only race issues in KY, and WV, but class, and education. It was disgusting.

Remember, it was Obama who brought up race in the first place suggesting he could bring together the two races better than anyone becuse he was both races, then called his grand mother a typical white person.

CNN needs to be accountable for this comment, it could create a civil war here, at the very least, create more tension for the people in these states, and HIllary and put some at risk.

This is now become racism against whites. It's an extension of Obama's church, only either cnn doesn't have enough smarts to see what they're doing, or they just want obama to win at all costs, they don't care what happens in their own country.

[AlexG]

CNN can call what it likes, but it is clear that they are Obama channel.

66% voted Hillary and 30% voted Obama. That looks so much like they are voting for someone they prefer to be their president than 91% blacks voted Obama and 9% black voted Hillary. It doesn't matter how CNN want to slice and dice it.

If anything, CNN are racists against white.

[Johnf]

Their figures are wrong. The other networks reported that 21% voted based on race. In North Carolina, 23% voted based on race. It works both ways. Or, it works in many ways. I have seen voters interviewed that are white and like the black president idea because its different/progressive, and voted that way. Some AA refuse to vote for an AA candidate, others will only vote for an AA candidate. The exit polls are inconclusive. They don't supply enough details to draw negative racial conclusions across the board. TV pundits who try to do so are uninformed and ignorant, and are deliberately exploiting the AA community for their own personal agenda.

I understand that, it sounds liek they are fabricating stories, not only to take the bite out of hillary's win but to discredit the voters in both states, and turn the peopel of america against them. It is serious.

[lanney]

CNN is making easy for McCain to win, by Nov "race" will be most important for people to vote. AA are just 13% less than Hispanic polpulation and they are concentrated in some states, majority of them are already red states. More this media peddle these thing stronger will be polarization. Bad for country, good for McCain. BHO is a biggest fool who had used these tricks in primary, this race issue will stick with hin for ever, he will be another Al-Sharpton.

[indigo]

It was David Gergen on CNN who said Hillary should refuse to accept "racist" votes. Another commentator refuted that idea and said it wasn't up to Hillary to do that. Boy the pundits on Cnn are unbelieveable!

[mooaks]

Murray is absolutely right. Turn of the hate machines. We ought to know about CNN and MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS by now, they are just hate machines. Gee, do people in Kentucky have televisions??? Do you think anyone in high places or those with dirt under their fingernails heard the comments??? ;););)

[Mrsawd]

craziness comes out of some people just because others using common sense !

This is just crazy hate filled hearts that can't stand truth!

Maybe alot more proof that mental health programs are not getting the people in thier offices that need to be there ! really this is proof that these hate filled people will say anything and do anything to make themselves look right !

[Bacio83]

When I was little I remember every school year last day it was a practice by blk kids to beat up on white kids(cracka's) or gays(fags)....Sorry for the slurs but I am trying to make a point.Those words are used daily in the blk household and if any blk person here tell me I am lying than they are delusional.....



I blame the 90's after Rodney King people started to freak out. I live in a city/suburb that is racially diverse 35% black, 45% white, 20% Hispanic... and let me tell you going to school I hear you. You had to put up a front and it happens. But I still blame society (all colors and races) for the backlash. People went from one extreme to the other and it feels like that year after Rodney King lots of tension.

[WV4Hillary]

The black people thing is getting stupid. I'm so sick of careers being ruined because everyone's so sensitive about them. MAYBE if schools wouldn't incite violence by making us all watch at least 3 slave movies during our high school career- such ANGER wouldn't boil up in black people - and 87% black Gary, Indiana wouldn't be right up there with 60% black Detroit as America's most deadly cities!!

[Frances]

It was David Gergen who said, the Clinton's have been involved in Civil Rights, they should stand up and tell them voters they (clinton) don't
want their vote if they are racist.........something to that effect....I do
wish someone would get that script, and post it word for word!

You can't forget what they did in SC to the Clintons, and now they want
them to do what? For whose benefit!

[Viktoriya]

I understand, I watched them for all of 10 minutes tonight, however, most important here, is that they have now seriously crossed the line. They are verbally attacking people in their own country - entire states in order to get someone elected. This is pretty scary stuff and it needs to be stopped.

You can't ignore this.
They could put people's lives in jeapordy. Look how upset everyone here is listening to them. While we might not listen to what's on the news these days because it's so biased, there are some people who do on a regular basis...and seriously, CNN maybe putting people's lives in danger, or on the line here. They are not only attacking Hillary here, but entire states, their own country people. If this keeps up there could be a civil war and I'm not joking.

I think CNN remarks are racist. I agree with your statement. They crossed the line.

[kygirl01]

If CNN wants to talk about race they should check out the states Obama has won and see the Black population foor each. In North Carolina, Blacks made up a third of the state. Isn't his wins about race? What surprises me is that he claims to be able to bring the races together but there is more seperation now, because of him, than there was before all this started.

[Amy Nelson]

Has anyone else noticed a distinct effort, by the media, to downplay the racial divide of the voting patterns now? What was once a very hot topic is now hardly mentioned at all and they are, instead, explaining Obama's losses as "cultural" and euphemisms like that. I imagine that they now want to erase any suggestion of a racial divide (never mention that 92% of AA's are voting for Obama) and categorize it differently in order to try and win the "typical white person's" vote in the GE. I guess they think we won't see through their motives.

[bernie gagliano]

Last night David Gergen charged that white voters voting for Hillary were racist.
He also challenged Hillary to reject these votes, and the voters.

I think he now has set himself up as the most likely to be Obama's communications guru.

We see Linda Douglas just left MSNBC for Obama's press spokesperson or something.

These "journalistic" and "scholar" toadies are sucking up for Obama administration jobs. They should have to wear big labels on their person like bibs that show they are bought and paid for by the Fraud.

[mjoynaples]

give me a break... gee and I use to think David Gergen was smart... guess not... the bottom line is money, power and wanting a job... he is disgusting.

[Patsy]

Then I counter Mr. Gergen's argument and Challenge Barack Obama to return the 90% of votes received from the African American Population.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Only a racist would have the audacity to call someone a racist. IMHO. Anyways I feel so much better now that Rev. Wright is not Baracks campaign spiritual advisor. I think the new minister has now taken that position. What a relief. :eek:

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Then I counter Mr. Gergen's argument and Challenge Barack Obama to return the 90% of votes received from the African American Population.

Good One!:p

[EH]

Then I counter Mr. Gergen's argument and Challenge Barack Obama to return the 90% of votes received from the African American Population.

Exactly!

[Tea toaD]

Should Hillary give back any Asian Americans votes, or Latino, or AA? These people make no sense. There are all races voting for her and Obama both. His just happens to be a lot more AA then hers.

[Gerry2008]

I brought this up in another post. How can it be that it is not racist for 90% plus of blacks to vote for Sen. Obama with some admitting their vote was because he is an AA - and yet it is racist when 60% or so of whites vote for Hillary largely because he is seen as too inexperienced? Aah - it must be racist to view Sen. Obama as inexperienced.

[Dendy]

This is a very dangerous game the MSM is playing. You can’t insult and hammer such a large portion of the population and expect them to deliver for you in November. What is wrong with these people? Why is anyone who doesn’t like Obama labeled to be Racist??? Would Obama reject NC????
At this point they should come up with something more original, seriously!
This is just enraging!!!
:mad:

[samkm]

Media is racist.

[RachachaSharon]

Gergen needs to get real. He's like the rest of those idiots who find racism under every rock, in every action and out of every mouth. It could be that the people who are voting for Hillary are voting for the better candidate and a vote for Hillary is a vote FOR the United States of America's future.

[Hoosier]

This is a very dangerous game the MSM is playing. You can’t insult and hammer such a large portion of the population and expect them to deliver for you in November. What is wrong with these people? Why is anyone who doesn’t like Obama labeled to be Racist??? Would Obama reject NC????
At this point they should come up with something more original, seriously!
This is just enraging!!!
:mad:

I agree that this will backfire in November. They are counting on "white guilt" to get our votes. Screw that. I vote for the person, not the color.

[Average Jane]

I am in complete shock!

CLINTON URGED TO REJECT VOTES OF RACISTS (http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/?headline=Clinton%20urged%20to%20reject%20votes%20 of%20racists&fhash=8c330204ba47839b980bff53b47f9b86&date=1211383735000&hash=72499b8fa0dbd3444d1fc945106ec22e&return_uri=http://www.cnn.com/video/%23/video/politics/2008/05/21/ec.seg.gergen.cnn)

apparently you can get a CNN Headline on a shirt and CNN has that headline to go with their disgusting coverage of the WV and KY voters

[Christines]

I have placed David Gergen in the same league as Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann. I know that he served for a couple of years with Bill Clinton, but his hostility is evident, just as with Dick Morris.
David Gergen is mean spirited and will probably say anything or do anything to remain around power!

[Bacio83]

Sick.

[smsemedic]

ok....that does it.
i am so done with these royal sicko nutjobs!
people........it CANNOT get any worse!
i have not watched that network for quite some time.......but man, they get to me. they NEVER post my comments!!! scaredy cats!!! i have HAD IT!!!
i think i need to run and worship the porcelain goddess after this!!!

[Mrsawd]

Shouldn't them shirts have Barracks name on ???????

[joeysky18]

CNN is so in the tank for BO.

[ProudClintoniteMI]

What the h...

[Bloomer]

Sick.

WHAT THE HELL!!!! How do they get away with this crap!

You know they are talking about us....right? Because we refuse to vote for him therefore we must be racist. Not only am I insulted, I'm PISSED!

The media actually thinks this is going to help him....what....someone please explain to me why they would go this far and cross this line and do it without even giving it a second thought.
How pathetic!

[ZforHill]

Not sure if that's a big deal. That looks like something made in a t-shirt slogan generator. It's got a huge url address.

[Mrsawd]

Make a site up to sell tshirts that say same thing only put Obama on instead of Hillary send to cnn see how they like it ???!!

[mjoynaples]

and this needs to be reported... to someone any thoughts this is racist too!!!!

[carmaken]

But it is a terrible thing to insult, call names to the voters just because you don't like the way the vote came out; and to report it in the news.

It's a shame because they used to say that they could not reveal who they were for because it was not fair reporting and was considered unethical, at the very least.

This has made me want to cry this whole primary season--it has been widespread practice, but for only a few people.

[LadyVT]

We should all email CNN constantly saying:

"OBAMA SHOULD REJECT VOTES FROM ALL SEXISTS! How come no one's asked him to do that?"

I suggest writing to Anderson Cooper 360 -- it was on his watch this comment was said last night. Search google for the contact info.

[ZforHill]

A pro-hillary one.(click here) (http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/index.html?hash=0dd86c71e28e3f3adad0b73fde2097d9&return_uri=http://www.cnn.com/video/%23/video/politics/2008/05/20/sot.ky.clinton.never.give.up.cnn&session_id=)

I think it just generates the article titles as automatic t-shirt text. Go here: http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/allshirts/index.html to see them all.

[smsemedic]

they want us to get mad.
sick trickery to make us appear racist.
like is said....sicko nutjobs!

[hillguy08]

It is sick, but I don't think it's really anything to be concerned about. The CNN Shirt (http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/allshirts/index.html) page probably randomly generates the shirts from RSS headlines so yea... I believe it happens to be completely random.

[JMS825]

Is this to say Hillary supporters are all racist? Is this to say that since we don't vote for Obama we are racist? Is this to say when 95% of African Americans vote for Obama they made a conscious choice but when 60% of "White" voters vote for Hillary they are racist?

[Morgan]

Not sure if that's a big deal. That looks like something made in a t-shirt slogan generator. It's got a huge url address.


It's a big disgusting deal to me. How dare they ?

[Average Jane]

I explained when I posted it, it IS on the CNN site and that they make the shirts from their Headlines. Since they made THAT a headline, it is now made into shirt.

[ZforHill]

It's a big disgusting deal to me. How dare they ?

It is automatically generated. It takes a headline from CNN, and puts it on a Shirt.

Go here to see: http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/allshirts/index.html

They even have a Clinton: "I'll never give up on you" (http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/index.html?hash=0dd86c71e28e3f3adad0b73fde2097d9&return_uri=http://www.cnn.com/video/%23/video/politics/2008/05/20/sot.ky.clinton.never.give.up.cnn&session_id=) shirt.

[xfiles]

Another thing to consider is that if Obama becomes president, some of these networks (or all) may become state run. They are headed that direction now.

[UpstateNYRN]

I would like a roll of toilet paper with him and all of his cronies names on each one of the squares! :eek: :D

[Musicdude]

That shirt is SEXIST against Hillary. It ignores Obama. Is Obama getting certain votes based on racial bias? Why don't they urge Obama to reject racist votes?
CNN by virtue of its SEXIST comment, is also being RACIST when excluding Obama from the shirt.

A double whammy against CNN.

[Average Jane]

It is automatically generated. It takes a headline from CNN, and puts it on a Shirt.

Go here to see: http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/allshirts/index.html

They even have a Clinton: "I'll never give up on you" (http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/index.html?hash=0dd86c71e28e3f3adad0b73fde2097d9&return_uri=http://www.cnn.com/video/%23/video/politics/2008/05/20/sot.ky.clinton.never.give.up.cnn&session_id=) shirt.

I explained that in the original post.

[RachachaSharon]

I really do feel it deserves one email to cnn, but most importantly, to the people of Kentucky and WV. They must be disgusted tonight.

Imagine attacking your own states because they didn't vote for your chosen one. How is this, how is Obama and the media bringing the country together? Shame on CNN!

If I were KY and WV, I'd be getting my political representatives and writing to CNN, getting those guys fired. They are slandering the people of WV and KY. This has to stop. What's next?

No one at CNN will even read an e-mail or, if one does, they'll laugh it off. They are not worth the aggravation. As if a couple of in the tank pundits have the power to affect the entire country. Some will believe it and some will be horrified at the thought. And telling Hillary to reject votes is totally unrealistic and stupid. She'll reject those votes when BO rejects his.

[ZforHill]

I explained that in the original post.

Yea, just trying to divert the anger a bit.

[hillguy08]

I wonder if anyone actually buys these shirts. :rolleyes:

[SusanfromPA]

the polls are fabricated for political aims.

Absolutely! I feel we are living in an evil Stepford situation.

[CGP]

Ah well, looks like Obama will have to reject all of the votes he received from any African-American people who voted for him SOLELY because he is black. And he will also have to reject any votes he received soley because he is a man!

[Average Jane]

the whole headline is stupid...where is the one for Obama rejecting sexist voters?

[Johnf]

It was David Gergen who said, the Clinton's have been involved in Civil Rights, they should stand up and tell them voters they (clinton) don't
want their vote if they are racist.........something to that effect....I do
wish someone would get that script, and post it word for word!

You can't forget what they did in SC to the Clintons, and now they want
them to do what? For whose benefit!





SCHNEIDER: Yes, that is right, they were telephone polls. There were two big reasons why Barack Obama carried the state of Oregon. One, education. Oregon Democrats have a lot of that. Those who did not go to college voted for Hillary Clinton.


But take a look at Oregon voters, the Democrats today who did go to college. They voted for Obama by a 20-point margin. And you know what? They were 78 percent of the voters in among Oregon Democrats. It is a very well-educated Democratic Party and that was the key to Obama's victory.


----------------------

BLITZER: It was very different than what we saw as far as religion is concerned, in Kentucky belt.

SCHNEIDER: A totally different religious culture, it is well educated, it is far less religion, less traditionalist in religion. And that is where Barack Obama prospered. BLITZER: All right, Bill, thanks very much. Bill is going to continue to crunch those numbers.

I'm going to walk over to Anderson Cooper right now. He has got some analysis from the best political team on television.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, we have been looking at some of the exit polls from Kentucky, in particular the issue of race. Voters who said that race was important in making their decision or is the factor in making their decision.

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: It is more disquieting news I think for Barack Obama as he looks for the general election.

COOPER: One in five I think.

GERGEN: It was about 21 percent that race was a factor. Nine out of ten of those voted for Hillary Clinton.

COOPER: And that is people that would admit it to a complete strangers taking these exit polls theoretically it would be even larger those who would not admit it.

GERGEN: And from her point of view, over a quarter of the people who voted for her today in Kentucky were people who said race was a factor in their decision. And it really means -- I mean, she's been talking about sexism in this race and she has complained about some in the last 24 hours.

You know race is really playing an increasing issue. And it also raises the question in my judgment of whether she shouldn't say, you know, if you want to vote against him because he's black, I don't want your vote. I don't want to win that way. This has no place in this primary.

COOPER: Do you see her saying that?

GERGEN: Well, she has been a champion -- she's been a champion of civil rights for a long, long time. She and her husband both have I think well-earned reputations in the civil rights front. She's never had redneck votes before in her life.

I see no reason why she couldn't take the high road here in the closing days of his campaign and try to take this on and take on the Reverend Wright issue to say, "Look, I campaigned with this fellow for 15 months. I know a lot of you people don't think he shares your values that somehow Barack thinks like Reverend Wright. Not true. I know him. I have been with him. And race should come out of this."

I think she could do a lot by taking a high road.

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: Hillary Clinton ought to keep in mind, I think, the long view here. She's got many more years in public life ahead of her. Taking the high road at this point, saying I don't want racists to vote for me, saying that this is about something bigger than just strategizing the last few races. I think that would stand her in very good stead.

BORGER: Very late for that. What in Montana and South Dakota?

TOOBIN: I mean, she might as well say it, because I think it would make a difference. This race has been so polarized along the issues of race and, frankly, I think most people blame her for that than they blame Obama. And to leave, if she's in fact leaving on the high road, would do a world of good.

GERGEN: She could do it on Reverend Wright. She could still take that on before she leaves this race.



_____________________________



DONNA BRAZILE, CNN CONTRIBUTOR:

Senator Obama is new to the political scene, some voters don't know him. Early on, black voters did not know him and they were backing Senator Clinton. So as voters get to know him, they're more comfortable with him. They've begun to trust him and know where he stands on the issues. I think Senator Obama will do much better have those voters.

COOPER: Do you agree with that, David?

GERGEN: Well, she may be right. And I'm not sure.

My sense, Anderson, is that the race card is being played more heavily today than it was in the beginning of the campaign. And that there is somehow now an increasing sense of the culture almost legitimizing racial comments by opponents.

I mean, there were things like this back in New Hampshire, but there were some ugly incidents in places like Pennsylvania. And Barack Obama didn't even campaign in Kentucky and West Virginia in part because I think he faced some of these barriers.

I do think that racism is starting to rear its head in ways we haven't seen in the campaign. I think it's important to take it on. And I think it's important for the Democratic Party to take it on.

You know, race has been a big issue in our politics through our whole history. And we're seeing it play out in some parts of the country. This is not a racist country. I do think these are pockets of racism, but I think it's there and it's -- if it casts a shadow over this race, it's going to be really tragic in many ways.

COOPER: Paul Begala, David Gergen was suggesting Hillary Clinton address it head on, saying if folks are voting for me because they do not want to vote for a African-American candidate, I don't want their vote.

PAUL BEGALA, CLINTON SUPPORTER: I think perhaps David's advice to talk about Reverend Wright or other things that maybe some voters are using it as a proxy for race probably a better thing. Barack Obama, as the African-American in the race, gave an important speech in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center where he took race on directly.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/20/se.04.html

Here's the transcripts...

[movingtous]

I can't remember his name, older gent.... They were all in a panel. Any pics of the pundits, reporters, I could pick him out.

Ok, line them up. They cannot see you, so don't be afraid.

[Average Jane]

hereis the video headline the shirt was supposed to be made from:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/05/21/ec.seg.gergen.cnn

[Vici57]

I am furious! I don't know how these news newtworks can get away with such crap. I am sure they will yell free speech. That is nothing but B**Sh**. This is nothing but race baiting and it needs to stop. There is nothing we can do except to boycott their station. We need to get a list of the sponsors, and send them all email that we will boycott their product. Also, do these sponsors want to be associated with such bias MSM!

[CriticalOne]

I haven't noticed that at all. If anything the race talk has gotten heavier and more blatant.

[Johnf]

I am furious! I don't know how these news newtworks can get away with such crap. I am sure they will yell free speech. That is nothing but B**Sh**. This is nothing but race baiting and it needs to stop. There is nothing we can do except to boycott their station. We need to get a list of the sponsors, and send them all email that we will boycott their product. Also, do these sponsors want to be associated with such bias MSM!

I really do feel this is an important thread and issue that should not be buried. We need to confront it.

[xfiles]

David Gergen has lost his mind!

First of all he is way off base out in la la land!

Secondly, if Obama wants to give back his 90% black "racist" votes, then maybe we can talk!

The fact that pundits get paid to espouse this kind of spew has got to stop.

There are too many know-nothing pundits on TV that are ruining this election and this country.

Let's figure out what we can do to get rid of them.

Boycott sponsors? What else?

Spitty Matthews, Olberman and others are in this category too1

[Johnf]

David Gergen has lost his mind!

First of all he is way off base out il la la land!

Secondly, if Obama wants to give back his 90% black "racist" votes, then maybe we can talk!

The fact that pundits get paid to espouse this kind of spew has got to stop.

There are too many know-nothing pundits on TV that are ruining this election and this country.

Let's figure out what we can do to get rid of them.

Boycott sponsors? What else?

Spitty Matthews, Olberman and others are in this category too1

Oh I agree, but this is his latest spin, and I really feel it needs to be conronted. He is insulting the people of Kentucky, WV, and essentially saying the people living in Oregon are good, intelligent people. We need to see if we can get him fired for this statement.

It could create a lot of serious backlash for CNN if this issue, this transcript is revealed for what it is. There are people who know what's going on, but there are a lot of people who do not, who buy into his garbage, believing him to be some kind of politcal expert.

This transcript needs to be sent to people in Kentucky and WV, including at the government level. And Gergen, sorry, couldn't remember his name previous, but Gergen needs to be fired.

[Artists4Hillary]

I agree. What about last night when CNN was ranting about WV and KY being racist hicks and Hillary should reject their votes). It's out of control nasty.

[Patsy]

Has anyone else noticed a distinct effort, by the media, to downplay the racial divide of the voting patterns now? What was once a very hot topic is now hardly mentioned at all and they are, instead, explaining Obama's losses as "cultural" and euphemisms like that. I imagine that they now want to erase any suggestion of a racial divide (never mention that 92% of AA's are voting for Obama) and categorize it differently in order to try and win the "typical white person's" vote in the GE. I guess they think we won't see through their motives.

Have you read the CNN thread and seen the comment by their 'panel' last night?

THEY ARE SOLIDIFYING IT. THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE IN TONE. IT HAS ESCALATED.

[CGP]

Merging of threads. Don't freak out!

[Florida Dawn]

What I have noticed is this: there is very little mention of the 92% of the AA vote that is going to Obama. What the MSM is OBSESSING over now is the "working-class white vote."

Flavah of the day.

I would say don't buy into stereoypes, no matter what you are. The media know what side their bread is buttered on. They stir up controversy, they get to keep their jobs. There is no more real journalism out there--there is only opportunism and self-promotion. There is no honor or integrity out there. Juan Williams comes pretty close, for me, anyway.

Hillary Forever,
Florida Dawn

Doing My BEST to PISS-OFF the Elitist Dum-o-crats!

[jgilmore]

Do we have an email for him?

[Sandy in PA]

Do we have an email for him?

No, but you could try: racebaiter@cnn.com

That might work.

[CGP]

Facts:

* Many African-Americans (not all, but many) have voted for BO simply because he is "black" - votes fueled by race/solidarity/racism

* Many men (not all, but many) have voted for BO simply because is a "man" - votes fueled by sexism

Therefore (using CNN's logic):

* BO should have to reject all of the above votes...

[CGP]

I can't afford cable or satellite, and I am glad. I never see these channels and I haven't been exposed to their drivel. :p

As you can see, you are not missing out on anything valuable! Actually, you are sparing your mind of exposure to toxic lies!

[WV4Hillary]

The simple truth:

Tiny Kentucky and West Virginia gave Hillary a net gain of 400,000 votes. 400,000!! They HATE that, and because of it, she will now win the popular vote (most likely). They know if she wins the pop vote - she's the choice of the people, and it would be hard to ignore that.

Let's see...what OTHER states have given/will give Hillary the popular vote:

Michigan: "Shouldn't count - name not on the ballot."
Florida: "They didn't know BO...he couldn't campaign."
West Virginia: "She shouldn't accept racist votes!!"
Kentucky: Same as WV
Puerto Rico: "It's..not really a state...should their votes REALLY count in the popular vote?"

Those 5 states/territories are an integral part of her winning the popular vote at this point, and they are doing everything they can to stop it. Kentucky and West Virginia performed their part well....Michigan and Florida's fate hangs with the DNC...and Puerto Rico is next.

[CGP]

The simple truth:

Tiny Kentucky and West Virginia gave Hillary a net gain of 400,000 votes. 400,000!! They HATE that, and because of it, she will now win the popular vote (most likely). They know if she wins the pop vote - she's the choice of the people, and it would be hard to ignore that.

Let's see...what OTHER states have given/will give Hillary the popular vote:

Michigan: "Shouldn't count - name not on the ballot."
Florida: "They didn't know BO...he couldn't campaign."
West Virginia: "She shouldn't accept racist votes!!"
Kentucky: Same as WV
Puerto Rico: "It's..not really a state...should their votes REALLY count in the popular vote?"

Those 5 states/territories are an integral part of her winning the popular vote at this point, and they are doing everything they can to stop it. Kentucky and West Virginia performed their part well....Michigan and Florida's fate hangs with the DNC...and Puerto Rico is next.

Correct.

It's all about that - doing whatever they can to stop her winning.

And the 5 regions you point out are indeed TARGETS solely because Hillary Clinton is destined to win them all! Mmmm....note the common thread!?!

Digusting & vile, the whole thing.

[Johnf]

Correct.

It's all about that - doing whatever they can to stop her winning.

And the 5 regions you point out are indeed TARGETS solely because Hillary Clinton is destined to win them all! Mmmm....note the common thread!?!

Digusting & vile, the whole thing.


I agree, but in the meantime, the media are doing irreperrable damage, turning state against state, man against woman, black against white and white against black.

When you start to condem or demonize states in your own country that don't agree with you and worship the states that follow your thinking, and make them god like, it cuts deep and it risks angering a lot of people. There will be more people uniting with Kentucky and WV. Those two states are going to stand up and fight against Obama and they're going to bring more people with them. . CNN insulted these two states and lifted up the black states, or anyone who supports Obama. This is not only biased, it shows favoritism, it borders on threatening, and coercion.


CNN should be held accountable. You have to bet that many in these two states as well as those outside those states who dont' support Obama will be angry with CNN, with what is being suggested, their implications, and what they are doing.

There could be very serious consequences here -this has the potential to and could get much bigger.

[Peppermint Patty]

Wow. Just when you think they can't say anything more outrageous than they've said the day before....

Exactly!!! Unfrigginbelievable! The nerve! So it's okay for 90% of the AA's to have voted for BO in NC BECAUSE he's black, and that's not racist, but if you're white you're automatically branded a racist for voting for Hillary? And what about all the MEN who didn't vote for Hillary BECAUSE they won't vote for a WOMAN????? :mad: :mad:

This country is going to hell in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

At least those voters in KY when asked were honest. Why oh why did they have to push this man to the forefront??? Couldn't they find a better, honest decent AA politician than this lame excuse for a democrat????? :mad:

Me, screaming: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[Lynne]

Does anyone have the CNN article that was online earlier today that blatantly called WV and KY rednecks? There was also a link to t-shirts that said clinton needs to renouce racist voters. I found it at work but can't find it now. Please send if you have it.

[Johnf]

Does anyone have the CNN article that was online earlier today that blatantly called WV and KY rednecks? There was also a link to t-shirts that said clinton needs to renouce racist voters. I found it at work but can't find it now. Please send if you have it.


It's all in this link / thread.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=12487&page=3

[LJSNAustin]

So...having read through all of this thread, I am ready to take some kind of action against CNN. David Gergen bugs the hell out of me anyway, because he sounds like a Sleestak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleestak#Sleestak) when he talks.

What, realistically, can we do? Boycotting big corporations such as Time Warner actually ends up costing me money (having to switch cable providers, etc).

[Johnf]

Exactly!!! Unfrigginbelievable! The nerve! So it's okay for 90% of the AA's to have voted for BO in NC BECAUSE he's black, and that's not racist, but if you're white you're automatically branded a racist for voting for Hillary? And what about all the MEN who didn't vote for Hillary BECAUSE they won't vote for a WOMAN????? :mad: :mad:

This country is going to hell in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

At least those voters in KY when asked were honest. Why oh why did they have to push this man to the forefront??? Couldn't they find a better, honest decent AA politician than this lame excuse for a democrat????? :mad:

Me, screaming: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Why don't we all send to cnn the same message. That we dont' buy into the lies they're telling.

And that Gergen should get fired; he will likely create unrest in the country.

[Area504]

Then I counter Mr. Gergen's argument and Challenge Barack Obama to return the 90% of votes received from the African American Population.
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[suerw]

This had come from CNN tonight, David Gergen and crew....they are suggesting Hillary tell them, I don't want your votes if you're racist. CNN was suggesting these two states were racist because polls taken, indicated that race mattered for 90% of them.

The point is, while I haven't listened to them in what seems like months, I listened tonight for all of 10 minutes and what I heard made me frightened for the people of Kentucky and WV. CNN are playing a very dangerous game, and they could create some very serious problems. They are turning people against one another in this country.

As you've said, this is serious. The media is turning the perceived race issue into a potentially very inflammatory issue. As you also pointed out, it's not for the vast majority of people about race, but about this particular candidate who happens to be black and would not be an issue if the candidate were someone respected and qualified.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Alright, that's it. Scrap all the votes over the last 14 months. We need a do over. All in favor of a 14 month do-over?:eek:

[Artists4Hillary]

Should Hillary give back any Asian Americans votes, or Latino, or AA? These people make no sense. There are all races voting for her and Obama both. His just happens to be a lot more AA then hers.


Then Obama should give back the AA vote. They're voting based on race.

And this is just bull. Race was never ever mentioned as a factor in KY. And in WV, a low % of people said race mattered.

[daniperez]

So...having read through all of this thread, I am ready to take some kind of action against CNN. David Gergen bugs the hell out of me anyway, because he sounds like a Sleestak when he talks.

What, realistically, can we do? Boycotting big corporations such as Time Warner actually ends up costing me money (having to switch cable providers, etc).

Regarding the CNN panel comments last night-

Their comments were vile and dangerous. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Still can't.

I truly hope legal action can/will be taken against them.

[Bad Kitty]

If they both gave back the votes of their races, Hillary would still have more because waffleboy would have to give up his black and white votes.

[Johnf]

This had come from CNN tonight, David Gergen and crew....they are suggesting Hillary tell them, I don't want your votes if you're racist. CNN was suggesting these two states were racist because polls taken, indicated that race mattered for 90% of them.

The point is, while I haven't listened to them in what seems like months, I listened tonight for all of 10 minutes and what I heard made me frightened for the people of Kentucky and WV. CNN are playing a very dangerous game, and they could create some very serious problems. They are turning people against one another in this country.

[QUOTE]As you've said, this is serious. The media is turning the perceived race issue into a potentially very inflammatory issue. As you also pointed out, it's not for the vast majority of people about race, but about this particular candidate who happens to be black and would not be an issue if the candidate were someone respected and qualified.

Yes, I feel this a very serious issue; cnn is pitting state against state, showing favouristims, making horrific remarks about WV and Kentucky becase they supported HIllary and yet, what does he do with states that have a heavy black population and support Obama, or are ready to cheat for Obama. Cnn/Gergen is making some very derrogatory statements about soem of the states. Don't think the population in these and other states whee Obama lost and CNN is condemming them will ever listen to cnn any more. And Gergen's favourable and complimentary remarks about Oregon in contrast, would not go unnoticed.

People of America need to speak up.

[hillgal]

I heard Gergen's remarks too and was really insulted. I wouldn't vote for an inexperienced empty suit, stuffed shirt, and blank screen with absolutely no qualifications to be President if he were white. Why would I do that just because the candidate is black.

What I want to know is when the image of Obama on the internet will be the same image presented to us in the msm. They go on and on as if there is nothing wrong with this guy. They have to know what's out there and I believe it's criminal not to fully inform the public about who they are voting for. If the public knows the real Obama like we do and they still want to vote for him, so be it.

The question to Gergen should be about sexism, racism. Why would Obama supporters want to vote for an inexperienced MAN over an experienced Woman.

[suerw]

Oh I agree, but this is his latest spin, and I really feel it needs to be conronted. He is insulting the people of Kentucky, WV, and essentially saying the people living in Oregon are good, intelligent people. We need to see if we can get him fired for this statement.

He's also insulting many of the people in Oregon who are not latte liberals, who value traditional values, work hard every day just to make a living for their families and are not misled by the media bandwagon for Obama. Unfortunately, a significant portion of those Oregonians are Republicans. Many are independents who have decided not to be led around by the political machines that both parties have of late become. .... How they dare lump all of us Oregonians together!! :mad:

[LJSNAustin]

What kind of state officials should be contacted? It seems that emailing CNN will do absolutely nothing.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

If they both gave back the votes of their races, Hillary would still have more because waffleboy would have to give up his black and white votes.

Well that settles it! :D

[Lynne]

What happened to American the land of the free? Everyone has a right to have their vote count. If a person were racist their vote is just as important as anyone else. The next thing you know, pundits will advocate for politicians to renounce votes by women.

How do you determine who is racist? I guess each individual is deemed racist based on where they live? McCarthy would have liked this election.

[ginamc]

I agree.... if WV and KY are racist and shouldn't count then I think the same should be said for NC and SC for Bambi. I love this how whites are racist voting for Clinton.... but blacks are somehow just supporting the best candidate for them! LOL

Frankly, after this last few months.... I COULD GIVE A FAT RATS ASS about what anyone calls me! It's WAR NOW!

NC, SC, and...
GA, AL, MS, LA, VA in TX where there was heavy black population; i.e., Houston and Dallas.

[Golden_Pursuit]

Clinon supporters are being called racist. But where is Mr. "Unity", "Change", and "Post-Racial"? Not stepping in once again to prove himself, though its already too late for that. Sheesh.

NObama '08

[AlexG]

Media show how low-class they are.

[ginamc]

We should all email CNN constantly saying:

"OBAMA SHOULD REJECT VOTES FROM ALL SEXISTS! How come no one's asked him to do that?"

I suggest writing to Anderson Cooper 360 -- it was on his watch this comment was said last night. Search google for the contact info.


AC 360 Comments:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?10

CNN Comments:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/

[Johnf]

good stories thanks for showing.

[Obamanation<Hillary]

I'm getting tired of the bs the msm is feeding voters. Stfu, Hillary is a better candidate than Obama. Face it and eat it, asses.

[daniperez]

Please send an email to David Gergen voicing your outrage at his comments.

www.davidgergen.com


Saddle Up! We've all come too far to slow down now.

[mukunda22]

Let's see--if Hillary should negate the votes she earned in WV and KY, then Obama should do the same in NC, and all the cities with predominantly black populations.

Ordinarily, I'd ignore a chauvinist like you, but those days of denial are over.

I smell a rat over at CNN--in fact, an infestation is more like it.

[Musicdude]

That shirt is very dangerous. As I already stated, it's SEXIST against Hillary, and its Bigoted in its accusation. It exploits the AA community to wage a negative campaign against HIllary.

Somehow, that shirt appears to incite hate mongering, or hate criminality.

Now one BIG problem here too is that when msnbc and other networks talked to pro-Hillary pundits about the KY exit poll results, (that 21% vote based on race figure)...NONE of the pundits knew how to answer the accusation of racism or how to keep Hillary from blame. The pundits should have immediately brought up North Carolina and those stats. But because they didn't, and now the msm is taking advantage of it.

[Musicdude]

What kind of shirts are women around the country going to design about CNN?
hhhmmmm? :)

There needs to a national shirt addressing this. Just my 2 cents....

[peachick]

As with most abusers, their power comes from the REACTION they get from you. Do not give them the power. Your power is to NOT turn them on. From what I hear they sound like they are self destructing! Haaaaaaaaaa! If obama, the uniter, can't have his way, he can use the media to start a race war. Don't participate. He will be his own undoing in the end. Evil eventually consumes itself.

[Johnf]

As with most abusers, their power comes from the REACTION they get from you. Do not give them the power. Your power is to NOT turn them on. From what I hear they sound like they are self destructing! Haaaaaaaaaa! If obama, the uniter, can't have his way, he can use the media to start a race war. Don't participate. He will be his own undoing in the end. Evil eventually consumes itself.


If we do not react, CNN creates problems for Kentucky and WV and Hillary from the Obama supporters who do and will watch their broadcasts. Doing nothing is not going to help anything here. I had not watched CNN in a long time, and didn't have it on long, but it rattled me, and for any Obama supporters, for the people of Oregon who now have been given superior status to that of the people of KY and WV, who were written off, this will mean something. It's how we react that will be important and will matter. Doing nothing gives them power. Look, no one did much with Germany for years when Hitler was in power, they ignored - avoided him - didn't believe he would do as promised and that gave him power, it's when everyone united and fought against him that Hitler's regime ended. We must confront the issues, but wisely - not waste effort or time on those who would support someone like Gergen who encourages the nation to repel 2 states who voted against his candidate. We must take this to a very high level.

Who in the media might do something to assist with this issue. I feel it is a serious one. It is underhanded, it is disturbing. Gergen fuelled the fire of hatred against WV, and KY and Hillary. He talked about the people of Oregon - casting them as a great example, as he did the candidate OB. He called the people of WV and KY uneducated, racist rednecks and that Hillary should not accept their vote. ( it would be ok to accept their vote if that had been Obama, he would have supported them the two states and Obama) Because these two states, strongly did not vote Obama, and voted strongly against him, he is trying to turn the rest of the nation against all 3, WV, KY and Hillary. He is trying to diminish Hillary's votes. He talks about the people of these states, but what about Gergen. Does he somehow feel education, wealth makes him an authority, right, a better person?

I took some time to research Gergen, hadn't known a lot about him prior, I think the thing is, that many don't, many of the Obama supporters now watching him may take him at face value, particularly because he's supporting and championing their cause....but what's in it for Gergen? Has he been promised a position by the Obama camp? Let's try and connect the dots.

http://vodpod.com/watch/741718-david-gergens-stern-advice-for-hillary-clinton

David Gergen Questioned About Bohemian Grove Video

David Gergen admits being "A Happy Member of Bohemian Grove."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove


David Gergen is a political consultant and presidential advisor during the Republican administrations of Nixon, Ford, and Reagan. While remaining a Republican he also served as an advisor to Bill Clinton. He is a member of the Bohemian Grove. In the Alex Jones film "Martial Law - 9/11: Rise of the Police State", Alex confronts Gergen about his involvement in the occult ceremonies undertaken at the infamous Bohemian Grove. His reaction goes from amused to fearful to angry as Jones presses him about his participation in the "Cremation of Care" ritual. This is one greatest interviews of all time by Alex Jones. Classic!

YouTube - David Gergen - Alex Jones


David Gergen on CNN: The Media Needs to 'Move On' From Rev. Wright Issue
Monday, April 28, 2008 4:30:56 PM · by Pyro7480 · 59 replies · 1,468+ views
NewsBusters.org ^ | 4/28/2008 | Matthew Balan
Later in the segment on CNN’s "Newsroom" between Tony Harris, David Gergen, and Roland Martin after the Reverend Jeremiah Wright speech at the National Press Club (which Mark Finkelstein blogged about earlier), Gergen suggested that "it’s time for him [Rev. Wright] to get off the stage, and frankly, for the media, I suggest, to move on." He also twice characterized the whole affair as a "sideshow" [audio available here].Shortly after a commercial break which came in the middle of the discussion, Gergen, in response to a question from "Newsroom" co-host Tony Harris, said of Rev. Wright, "Every time he appears,...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2008254/posts


The Power of One (Gergen on Bush)
Friday, November 19, 2004 1:35:20 AM · by neverdem · 26 replies · 1,172+ views
NY Times ^ | November 19, 2004 | David Gergen
GUEST OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Washington Give the man his due: George W. Bush is emerging as one of the boldest, most audacious presidents in modern history. Whether he is also wise is a question that will preoccupy us for another four years, but the reshuffling of his team in recent days makes clear that he intends to stretch the powers of his office to their limits. Woodrow Wilson once wrote that "the president is at liberty, both in law and conscience, to be as big a man as he can.'' President Bush comes Texas-sized. By sending members of his White House...

Presidents of the past would also sympathize with Mr. Bush's desire to quell rebellious voices at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency. For more than half a century, White Houses have resounded with complaints about the striped pants set at Foggy Bottom and renegades at Langley. Foreign service officers are especially out of step with the incumbent president: a rising star in foreign service confided a week ago that on a scale of 0-to-10, colleagues in the service would give a 9.5 grade to Colin Powell and a grade of 2 to the Bush administration. Bringing the foreign service on board will be one of the toughest challenges facing Secretary Rice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1283579/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2008254/posts


Gergen's talents as a politician. Close associates say he is % "constantly pulse taking" -- measuring the attitudes of his co-workers, his allies and the country. Gergen's fans say this habit helps explain his ability to move easily in a wide circle of public figures, policymakers and journalists. His detractors say it has led him to switch alliances with alarming expedience.

While Gergen, 51, is regarded in Republican circles as an expert communicator and strategist, he is also known to be disorganized, undisciplined and often tardy -- characteristics he shares with his new boss. "If they are looking for a good analyst," said a Reagan White House veteran, "they have found one. But this is not someone who can make the trains run on time."

Hired to reposition Clinton as a centrist, Gergen has his work cut out. But his influence is likely to expand quickly in the coming weeks, if only because Gergen is the sole White House official with previous West Wing experience. How long his devotion to Clinton will last is another question.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978700,00.html

Gergen is obviously someone not to be trusted, he flip flops,

Ilsa (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-04-06 07:08 PM
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David Gergen said that [the Administration] has been less than
Advertisements [?]honest with the American people on how things are going in Iraq.

Oh reeeeeeeally? (No Shit, Sherlock).

Come on, Gergen. Spill your guts and call them what they are: "Liars."


less than honest = dishonest
cowardly words
Gergen can go fly a kite, he's acting all 'fair and balanced' now that the ship appears to be sinking but I remember well his supportive excited words for bush's selection and the home invasion of Iraq.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2857821

Why even Obama supporters didn't like him, because they say he acts, lies to the public, now suddenly, they do. They are making references now in support of Gergen, all over the internet, and supporting Gergen's campaign to damage Hillary and alienate the two states WV, KY. Wonder, what is Obama paying him?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6053150

That aside, it's clear Gergen is damaging the country, turning the nation against 2 states, trying to punish these states. Something needs to be done. Gergen needs to be exposed.

[LJSNAustin]

What can we do? Are there any attorneys in the forum who can give advice? How would we go about bringing a lawsuit against Gergen and/or CNN? I am sick of this and I am serious in my request.

[Johnf]

What can we do? Are there any attorneys in the forum who can give advice? How would we go about bringing a lawsuit against Gergen and/or CNN? I am sick of this and I am serious in my request.


I don't know but it would be good to find out if there were any.

[shadow]

92% Obama, *8% Clinton, AAs racist?

For some strange reason, it is only racist when whites say it.

I see the double standard applied and it angers me. It works both ways.

[amblush617]

I'm having this discussion there with a bo supporter named briannyc ... he's an ******* who won't back if it's a woman who gives her opinions/comments .. earlier in the evening, 2 guys slapped him down good & he wouldn't comment, just changed the subject, lol


I'm from Ky & yes, I know there are people who are racist .... most it's not the color of your skin .. from my experience in working 30 years in retail .. it's the person & how they portray themselves that shows who they are ..


If ya work hard & cause no problems, people will respect you .. at least that's how I've witnessed things all my life here ... but then, maybe I didn't understand what I was talking about .. I'm one of those who never went to college ...

yeah right! lol

[RachachaSharon]

I'm having this discussion there with a bo supporter named briannyc ... he's an ******* who won't back if it's a woman who gives her opinions/comments .. earlier in the evening, 2 guys slapped him down good & he wouldn't comment, just changed the subject, lol


I'm from Ky & yes, I know there are people who are racist .... most it's not the color of your skin .. from my experience in working 30 years in retail .. it's the person & how they portray themselves that shows who they are ..


If ya work hard & cause no problems, people will respect you .. at least that's how I've witnessed things all my life here ... but then, maybe I didn't understand what I was talking about .. I'm one of those who never went to college ...

yeah right! lol

Amblush, I live in Western NY, but my mother's family is in KY (Allen Co.) and TN (Sumner Co). I lived there for a short time as a kid and spent my summers there. The cousins are all college educated, as are their children and their grandchildren (the cousins are a bit older than I because my mother was the youngest of 8). They are not rednecks. I can tell you that, without a doubt, they are no more racist than anyone else in any other area of this country. They are middle-class Americans. They work hard. They pay their taxes and their bills. For anyone to make a general statement that voting for Hillary is racist is absolutely ridiculous. To select WV and KY because of the mistaken perception that they are all, for want of better terms, hillbillies and rednecks is about as prejudiced as one can be. And, certainly, they are no more racist than an AA who votes for BO because of the color of his skin. Racist attitudes don't just come in the color white.

[samkm]

Oh, I see...

CNN wants Obama to return the North Carolina votes because he and Michelle campaigned on racism specifically to appeal to the black voter base.

Very nice of them to call them on it... I knew CNN can recognize it for what it is. In fact, about time too. ;)

I dont recall seeing Hillary campaigning on race grounds.... anywhere! In fact, I still see Hillary treating every person with RESPECT and DIGNITY, without bringing any racism nor racist undertones to the campaign.

Hillary, Thank you.. In fact, this is one of the big reasons why I support you. We will help you collect the North Carolina votes in November :) but we will not bus people in, nor create a non-existent 41st floor in some apartment and hoodwink the system to get you elected.

We stand with you, Hillary Clinton, WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY, WORTHY OF RESPECT.

[amblush617]

I agree with you whole hardly ... Craig must not have liked it, since he put up a new thread for people ...


Oh, briannyc sent me links to southern bands singing Dixieland, lol .. then another sent a link .. that when Craig stepped in .. don't know if they'll comment again or not .. I'm done .. just had to get my 2 cents in, hehehe