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ImmaSlave4U
05-29-2008, 06:15 AM
Wow...

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

YouTube - Obama's Church: Hillary Cried Because White Supremacy Failed

Spagpusher
05-29-2008, 07:35 AM
Thoroughly DISGUSTING!

Anyone sent this to Hannity?

(Edited to say, nevermind, I just sent it to him).

This is so gross. No white candidate would ever get away with being a part of a church that preaches this kind of hatred!

eyedoc333
05-29-2008, 07:43 AM
That was absolutely awful. And this is supposed to "bring the party together"?

kyforhillary
05-29-2008, 08:13 AM
Can't he be thrown out of the church for this? I'm not Catholic, but dang can't somebody in the church do something?

Eddie3dfx
05-29-2008, 08:15 AM
wtf :eek:

Vici57
05-29-2008, 08:54 AM
This is not a church, it is a platform for hatred. I have never seen anything like this and the people of the church just cheer the speakers on with their standing, clapping and saying Amen!

Sandy in PA
05-29-2008, 09:19 AM
That is the famous Father Michael Pfleger, who is the pastor of St. Sabina's Catholic Church in Chicago. He is also so in love with himself that his sermons at his own church are available via streaming video on the St. Sabina's website here:

http://a.saintsabina.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=70

As a Catholic, I am so revolted by this man that I can't even watch them. That the Archdiocese of Chicago allows this man to be a priest is beyond reason. He is hate filled, horrid, egotistical and seems to have the same diseases as Rev Wright, including loving to hear himself speak, and needs to be defrocked.

If you would like to e-mail this jerk and tell him what you thought of that performance at TUCC, here's his e-mail address:

pastorpfleger@ameritech.net

If you would like to contact the Archdiocese of Chicago and tell them they need to get their Diocese in order, here is the link to their contact info on their website:

http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/contact.shtm

El Cuco
05-29-2008, 09:37 AM
As a practicing catholic I can assure you that I have never heard this type of hate sermon in any of the parishes I have attended. My husband was active duty air force for 21 years and we moved every 3 years, so we have been members of many parishes all over the world and in many different states. I am schocked and embarassed of this hate talk by a Roman Catholic priest............ SAD!

PA_Voter
05-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Thoroughly DISGUSTING!

Anyone sent this to Hannity?

(Edited to say, nevermind, I just sent it to him).

This is so gross. No white candidate would ever get away with being a part of a church that preaches this kind of hatred!
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Again, "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are!"... Never Obama, Never!

joeysky18
05-29-2008, 09:49 AM
How can someone attend that church for 20 years if they don't agree with the the preaching.

I can't stand that church for 1 minute.

hipelayne
05-29-2008, 09:58 AM
Who the hell is this wannabe? And what the hell was that - a church or a night at the Apollo? Nothing but trash! Is this person really a Roman Catholic priest? Does the pope know that there are imposters like this guy pretending to be priests? Freakin' unbelievable! Carrying a hanky and wiping his brow like the charming Rev. Wright! Thoroughly disgusting ................ :mad::mad:

Sandy in PA
05-29-2008, 10:00 AM
Hipelayne--


That is the famous Father Michael Pfleger, who is the pastor of St. Sabina's Catholic Church in Chicago. He is also so in love with himself that his sermons at his own church are available via streaming video on the St. Sabina's website here:

http://a.saintsabina.org/index.php?o...d=42&Itemid=70

If you would like to e-mail this jerk and tell him what you thought of that performance at TUCC, here's his e-mail address:

pastorpfleger@ameritech.net

If you would like to contact the Archdiocese of Chicago and tell them they need to get their Diocese in order, here is the link to their contact info on their website:

http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/contact.shtm

supra5677
05-29-2008, 10:08 AM
wow.. Hillary was crying because of entitlement? Again there is a perfect example of an UNJUST GRIEVANCE! Hillary and Bill have given so much funding to black causes and black colleges.

supra5677
05-29-2008, 10:08 AM
send to the campaign pronto!! and LOU DOBBS

JOY TO THE WORLD
05-29-2008, 10:09 AM
This is A-typical of the kind of spiritless mentors and those who follow behind Obama. The link should be sent to Glen Beck---he seems to be disgusted with Obama and so is Lou Dobbs. At least we finally have a outlet of individuals who have the attention of viewers not drunk on Omaba's koolaid

teachgrd3
05-29-2008, 10:34 AM
Notice at the end of the video, the "wonderful young pastor" (Obama's words) thanks God for the message, the messenger, and for "Father Mike."

When Obama finally denounced Jeremiah Wright, he made it sound like the problem was Wright, not the church, and not the new young pastor.

Like Ed Koch said, Obama has sat in that church for twenty years, "like a potted plant." This is what the DNC wants? This is what is going to be welcomed into our White House, should Obama be elected?

Ohio mom
05-29-2008, 10:43 AM
can anyone summarize...I am not able to watch the video!!!

supra5677
05-29-2008, 10:53 AM
hillary was crying in new hampshire because white supremacy wasn't "winning".. never mind that she came back on won anyway..

Eddie3dfx
05-29-2008, 10:55 AM
YouTube - New Obama Rev Otis Moss III: 'At War With The Enemy'

shadow
05-29-2008, 11:14 AM
I turned that off. I refuse to dignify that crap. White supremacy?

Benefit from my ancestors? I won't even go there. The black population who feel whites owe them "because of their slave ancestry" are benefiting from that. Michelle Obama got into Princeton and Harvard based on that.

That *church* is obcene, and I wish they would make up their minds. Do they want to be all inclusive, or do they want seperatism? That *church* wants "black seperatism", so how does OB come up with his "we will rise above race" thing?

Dendy
05-29-2008, 11:16 AM
:eek:
This is truly the Trinity of Hell!!!
This guy has some serious psychological issues; it’s painful to watch.
I think that this so called church needs to be investigated, something is really not right there!

RachachaSharon
05-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Panderer!!!

movingtous
05-29-2008, 11:22 AM
can anyone summarize...I am not able to watch the video!!!

OMG!!!:eek:
What an outrage. I have never seen such trash talk, on the podium, and coming from a preacher, nonetheless! For Ohio Mom, Father Michael, a Catholic priest, took to the podium and started preaching, like a black preacher would. (in my 18 years attending Catholic sermons, I had never seen a priest talk the way Father Michael did.) It's almost as though he put on an act...eyes closed, hand raised in the air, voice rising and lowering for effect, you know what I mean. The only thing he didn't do was have this tremor in his voice as the pitch goes up and up. Anyway, he's talking about our ancestors. Making fun of white people who say that Black people cannot blame them for what their ancestors did. Father Michael, white priest, said that yes, of course they can blame white people. If you benefit from what your ancestors did for you, ie 401k, insurance, etc, then you reap the benefits of what your ancestors did, so you cannot say that you can't take the blame. People cheering wildly and clapping their hands, nodding heads, hooting in the background. This egged Father Michael on to say that When Hillary cried in New Hampshire, it was because she realized that her white "entitlement" was being taken away by Barak Obama. Who's this black man who came along and decides to take something from a white person?
In a nutshell, this sermon was VERY racially divisive, and I for one, will never, ever, ever, ever, ever vote for their man, after this. Done. No more for me.
White or black, no one is entitled and I am getting sick of all this racial divisiveness, especially when it is being cheered on by churchgoers!:mad::mad::mad:

Frances
05-29-2008, 11:29 AM
I just sat down after eating breakfast, and I turned this on, and looked into the face of the priest, and said BAD. It's high time churches are investigated!

hipelayne
05-29-2008, 11:32 AM
Hipelayne--


That is the famous Father Michael Pfleger, who is the pastor of St. Sabina's Catholic Church in Chicago. He is also so in love with himself that his sermons at his own church are available via streaming video on the St. Sabina's website here:

http://a.saintsabina.org/index.php?o...d=42&Itemid=70

If you would like to e-mail this jerk and tell him what you thought of that performance at TUCC, here's his e-mail address:

pastorpfleger@ameritech.net

If you would like to contact the Archdiocese of Chicago and tell them they need to get their Diocese in order, here is the link to their contact info on their website:

http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/contact.shtm


Thanks Sandy - I think I will email him and I think I will find a few bible quotes to send to him too! I have never heard of this joke of a priest before, but his arrogance and wannabeism are complete gag reflexes for me! Ugh! He seems to be like Obama - a legend in his own mind!!!!!!!!!!!! I will definitely contact the Archdiocese of Chicago - maybe even the Pope too! This should not be allowed to continue - regardless of whether he says anything about Hillary - I'm talking about the whole kit and kaboodle! He is DISGUSTING!!! And where the heck did they get the lone white woman sitting in the audience? Was she one of his parishioners? I'm sorry for rambling ...... I'll stop and get back to work now!

thebword
05-29-2008, 12:17 PM
I will be sending this video in an email to the Archdiocese of my state, one to Illinois, and to the Vatican. This man he should be defrocked. He is an embarrassment to the Catholic Church.

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kpmom
05-29-2008, 12:18 PM
Does anyone know how we would go about making a complaint to the IRS about this church? Can everyday citizens make these complaints? They are not supposed to be making political statements from the pulpit and, at the same time, be exempt from paying taxes.

kpmom
05-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Show of hands; how many white people here have trust funds? What is it about "whites" and "trust funds"? Didn't Michelle O make a similar statement?
Unless Paris Hilton is on these lists, most of us are working class (black and white) folks.
And does the good Father realize 401(k) accounts are open to all people (assuming their employers offer them) regardless of race, creed, color, etc.?

philmwri
05-29-2008, 12:24 PM
This church is awlful.I grew up in a black church and it was nothing like that.

UpstateNYRN
05-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Proof positive there can be no coming together with the likes of Obama because he and the Mrs. buy into the same $hit! Think what you want, but for me this country has been hijacked by the Obama/Media Machine and there ain't no turning back. If this process has not demonstrated our country has been stolen nothing will. If this theft is allowed to occur then there is no more law, our Constitution is meaningless and there is more America. The Rev. Wright will have gotten his wish, God will have damned America! :confused:

B positive
05-29-2008, 12:41 PM
This church is awlful.I grew up in a black church and it was nothing like that.

Thank you- I needed to hear that:)

Charlie Brown
05-29-2008, 12:45 PM
Watch this video and see what is spreading all over Rowanda...It will give you peace in your heart..


YouTube - Apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Kibeho, Rwanda

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
05-29-2008, 12:47 PM
It is unchristian to have this kind of hatred for Hillary

deniseds
05-29-2008, 12:50 PM
I am a catholic and I could not even finish watching this video. It made me sick. I just cannot believe that this is allowed. Hard to believe. It should be sent to everyone.

Sandy in PA
05-29-2008, 12:55 PM
Hannity has had clips of Fr Michael Pfleger on, he knows about him. If you want contact this fraud of a priest, or the archdiocese of Chicago, here's the info:

pastorpfleger@ameritech.net

http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/contact.shtm

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Show of hands; how many white people here have trust funds? What is it about "whites" and "trust funds"? Didn't Michelle O make a similar statement?
Unless Paris Hilton is on these lists, most of us are working class (black and white) folks.
And does the good Father realize 401(k) accounts are open to all people (assuming their employers offer them) regardless of race, creed, color, etc.?

Didn't you know if you're skin color is white or light you're born with a trust fund. Your Mom just pops you out with one lol.

Sadly no, I opened a savings account when I was 11 and emptied my piggybank. I started working at 16 and haven't stopped... I worked 30 hours a week at college while over-crediting. I've paid my parents for any money they helped me for college and I'm still paying student loans. I think somebody needs a reality check lol.

Charlie Brown
05-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Im Sorry but watching a white man trying to act Black is beyond gross:eek:

trading wine for beer
05-29-2008, 01:08 PM
I guess he's forgetting that women, including white women, are lower on the "chain" than all men, including men of color, i.e. women voting, women advancing in the work place, etc... just sayin'. All women were, and in some cases, still are, looked upon as things... property. Just in recent years, it became a crime to rape one's wife, and that's still hard to "prove".

Now, I'm not one-uping or anything, just saying that if one wants to talk about "entitlement", I don't believe he is representing true fact and example into his "presentation".

Hillary knew this would be an uphill battle, I'm sure. I beleive that Hillary didn't put much money/effort into Iowa because she looked into the history of Iowa and how they've voted/treated women in the political arena. She could have had the best ground organization, and she still wouldn't have won Iowa. Puuleeezzz.

Oh, and since I'm "entitled" (being a white woman and all), where is my 10mil house on a hill, and where's my 300,000 a year job?? I have a master's degree and make less than a construction worker! Oh, and my "trust fund" was called "welfare", but that stopped when I was 18 and I moved out of my mom's section 8 funded/rented trailer. Ah, trailer park memories and cheese lines. If only I could go back... now those were the days.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

NYVIN4HILL08
05-29-2008, 01:53 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-7/1196423/mega_vomit.gif

Musicdude
05-29-2008, 02:07 PM
The MSM needs to ask Obama why he is still a member of a church that spews racist sermons. And, is he going to remain a member and continually denounce what they say? Or is he going to denounce the church? Interestingly, he loses a different blocks of voters with any answer.

NYVIN4HILL08
05-29-2008, 02:15 PM
The MSM needs to ask Obama why he is still a member of a church that spews racist sermons. And, is he going to remain a member and continually denounce what they say? Or is he going to denounce the church? Interestingly, he loses a different blocks of voters with any answer.


you can't do that, remember you can't ask obbammer any questions, it's not fair.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-7/1196423/Obama_Poster_Crybaby.gif

Sandy in PA
05-29-2008, 02:20 PM
The MSM needs to ask Obama why he is still a member of a church that spews racist sermons.

If you ask him any questions, it is either

a) divisive politics
b) not relevant
c) has no place in this campaign
d) interrupting his waffle eating

Tea toaD
05-29-2008, 02:25 PM
They're all pretty darn scary. It's not getting better, it's getting worse and they are defying people to challenge them:eek: Obama knows exactly what's going on and yet he get's a pass. Unbelievable:mad:

shadow
05-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Are there any members here who live in Chicago? And brave? I would love to know what would happen if a white person simply tried to attend a sunday service at trinity.

bangorgirl
05-29-2008, 02:36 PM
That guy is so hateful and out of touch! I don't know what is going on in this party or world, but bo is causing people to hate one another. VERY scary, something has to be done, where are the lawenforcement members that investigate hate crimes? They need to look at that video.

SantaCruzen
05-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Fake Religion. That is a Hoax. He is a Scam Artist.

Take Off the Clothe!!!

Ijane
05-29-2008, 02:40 PM
I'm sorry but the way I see this is that it's gotten to the point that the message the church is clearly giving is that Obama isn't qualified to be President so we have to hide that fact by inciting racism. What other reason could there be for such a continual display of racism propaganda? Seriously! Do you think if they truly believed that Obama was qualified, they'd waste their breath spewing this kind of crap?

Listening to "Father" Michael Pfleger's heavy breathing made me sick. It sounded like he either smokes too much or was getting ready to have an orgasm. :D

bangorgirl
05-29-2008, 02:46 PM
BO just wants hate, I can't believe that there is nothing anyone can do, I am getting scared for Hillary and Bill. They will inspirer so much hate for her that one of those people that follow these people or bo will go off. It needs to stop.

kathyfl
05-29-2008, 02:50 PM
what the heck is going on?..........Are the Obama supporters trying to start a freaking race war....this is totally getting out of hand.......this does nothing to "unite" anyone.......It's stirring up Hate........I'm sending the link to all boards I visit...to my Senators...and to media outlets..

Leekosagrios
05-29-2008, 02:56 PM
That's disgusting. And to think that BO sat there on those pews for 20 years absorbing all that hatred.

Ijane
05-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Clear bully tactics against fellow church and community members who support Clinton.This video is an example of how self-destructive African Americans can be.

shadow
05-29-2008, 03:01 PM
BO just wants hate, I can't believe that there is nothing anyone can do, I am getting scared for Hillary and Bill. They will inspirer so much hate for her that one of those people that follow these people or bo will go off. It needs to stop.

Yes. If they manage to push Hillary out, please please end this by supporting Senator MCCain.

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 03:07 PM
So sorry but white folks have themselves to blame for this type of behavior.Sorry but white people absolutely does not fight for there white pride the way every other race does.And most white people have white guilt and try to act like wiggers to fit in with the hood.
This is sick I looked at like 1 sec of this garbage.

neophyter
05-29-2008, 03:19 PM
BO just wants hate, I can't believe that there is nothing anyone can do, I am getting scared for Hillary and Bill. They will inspirer so much hate for her that one of those people that follow these people or bo will go off. It needs to stop.

Hate for her????

It inspired hate in me for that black church. Makes me sick that people could sit in that church... Jerry Springer wouldn't be out of place there.

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 03:26 PM
So sorry but white folks have themselves to blame for this type of behavior.Sorry but white people absolutely does not fight for there white pride the way every other race does.And most white people have white guilt and try to act like wiggers to fit in with the hood.
This is sick I looked at like 1 sec of this garbage.

Eh? Most of us have pride just not according to the color of our skin. For example I'm half Sicilian half Portuguese I show my pride in heritage. To show pride in the color of your skin for a "white" person is considered being racist or a separatist. There's a fine line "whites" have had to walk for many years. It's why I hate that the only option for those with light skin is "white" or Caucasian. My Dad puts other and writes in Sicilian. Portuguese used to be considered Hispanic but not to todays standards.... just saying. It's no-one color's fault it's society which is made up of all of us. We're to blame not one race.

And as far as acting like Wiggers... to fit into the hood.. if you're born in the hood and act Ghetto it's cause you're from the ghetto. The perception of "acting" a color is crazy. But then again I'm from the North East and you never know what race or color or ethnicity most of us are cause everyone's mixed. I've been called a Native American, a Puerto Rican and Mixed a million times in my life and the racial names that come with them.

I still think it all depends on what part of the country you're from. Here in New England the feeling is nothing compared to what I hear from other places.

PA_Voter
05-29-2008, 03:47 PM
Get ready... BO will be denoucing the church now.... Oh boy, he's going to be "shocked" with Father Michael Pfleger and now his new Pastor Rev. Moss as well.... I didn't know... I didn't know.... WHAT EXACTLY DOES HE KNOW, ANYTHING????

THIS SITE SUMS IT ALL UP:
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/

...

So, let's take BO back to just May 4, 2008....
Obama's "white supremacy and black inferiority" non-responsive answer

Three weeks earlier, to the day, Sen. Obama appeared May 4, 2008, on Meet the Press with Tim Russert, who first cited Rev. Jeremiah Wright as saying "that one of the essential facts about the U.S. is, 'We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God'." Russert then pointed out what Wright had said was "so contrary to a speech I heard you gave yesterday about one nation, one people," to which Obama responded "Right", followed by a back and forth with Russert. Note that ultimately Obama was, in legal terms, non-responsive to Russert's question.

MR. RUSSERT: So you knew in ‘07…

SEN. OBAMA: Right.

MR. RUSSERT: …”This guy’s a problem. I have to keep him out of the spotlight involving my campaign.”

SEN. OBAMA: Right. Sure.

MR. RUSSERT: Why didn’t you just say then, “You know, Reverend, we’re going on different paths because this country does not believe in white supremacy and black inferiority.”

SEN. OBAMA: Right. Well, my commitment, as I said, Tim, is to the church, not to a pastor. And I think that’s shared by millions of people who are going to church this morning. You, you join a church community, and Reverend Wright helped build a wonderful church community, one that has been a pillar of good works in Chicago, and, you know, I feel a great loyalty to that church. Reverend Wright was going to be retiring in a year, and I thought it was important for me to maintain my commitment to that church.

HRCin08/GeekLove
05-29-2008, 04:07 PM
In 2004, Obama considered Pfleger as one of his spiritual advisers helping to set his moral compass.

In April 2008, when Obama dumped Rev. Wright, Obama sought Pfleger's advice and counsel.

http://comealongway.blogspot.com/2008/05/another-paster-spewing-hate-from-pulpit.html

What does this say about his character and moral compass?

Linda C
05-29-2008, 04:07 PM
I am waiting for the condemnation of heterosexual supremacy especially from the Catholic Church and especially from the AA conservative Evangelical pastors and their churches. When the Catholic church allows women to tbe priest..come back and talk to me about entitlements. Is the priest ready to give his entitlements and live like the nuns who have none? Talk about the parable of the log and the speck

What a bunch of crap. The only way to combat this stuff is by focusing on human dignity.

My ancestors? The one's that were here were abolitionists.

teachgrd3
05-29-2008, 04:19 PM
According to No Quarter, Sean Hannity is all over the Rev. Moss/Father Pfleiger stuff today... playing the audio on his radio show.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Is anyone listening to Hannity this afternoon?

jdona
05-29-2008, 04:48 PM
If you look at the video, at the congregation, you will see many white folks there. Why I don't know, you would think they were not welcomed there. I would certainly feel out of place and feel like I had a giant bulls eye on my back. I live in Blacksburg, VA. and go to a United Methodist Church although I was born Southern Baptist. We have a mixed congregation, it is a university town, and there are people of all colors and nationalities there. I don't understand this kind of Christianity that is preached in Trinity Church. Where is the Christian love, the Word of God, the Bible? Where is the Sermon on the Mount? Where is the Beatitudes? The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth? What is it with this church? This is disturbing on so many levels.

Molly
05-29-2008, 05:09 PM
I am Catholic also - I intend to notify the Catholic Services of Chicago - this guy has got to GO!

JOY TO THE WORLD
05-29-2008, 05:24 PM
This priest is a disgrace. So is TUCC and Obama's new minster, Moss. No doubt that the MSM will avoid this--I am praying for Hillary everyday and I know that she will win this election and the demons who were out to destroy her...will indeed have destroyed themselves.

Justmy.02
05-29-2008, 05:29 PM
I am nearly speechless. I had to stop the video and stop shuddering before I could restart it, but I managed to get through it.

I am so discouraged and utterly appalled such hatred and vitriol exist and that, as parents, BO and MO have allowed their children's souls to be 'nourished' by this.

I can't even begin to know what it is like to grow up black, and I love all people unless they give me a good reason not to (P.S. color of skin is not one of those reasons.) I can't bring myself to believe the majority of people in the AA community feel this way. Please, someone, say it isn't so.

I truly, truly fear for this country.

Amy Dugan
05-29-2008, 05:42 PM
was a topic on hannity's radio show. hannity had obama quotes saying he likes the new Rev Moss and quotes of Moss's praise of the priest AFTER he made these comments. hannity repeated these associations twice in 2-3 minutes time

Donald
05-29-2008, 05:51 PM
That man has some nerve..He calls himself a man of God??? This is pure hate. He is stirring the pot. Too bad the media doesn't care.

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 06:32 PM
That man has some nerve..He calls himself a man of God??? This is pure hate. He is stirring the pot. Too bad the media doesn't care.

This is the majority of rhetoric blks preach.Blks will always play the race card even if it was a blk president in the white house

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:34 PM
The man preaching hate is white...

Fox just announced they have breaking news on this.....

Eddie3dfx
05-29-2008, 06:34 PM
Lets see what happens next

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:37 PM
This is about the viedo in the other thread. Its on now.

cowymom
05-29-2008, 06:39 PM
watching

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:39 PM
Pastor apologizes and the Obama camp distances himself from these remarks.

I say we do not accept this apology. This church has a record of hate..How could Obama not know this.

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:40 PM
I am actually replying on the thread about the viedo..to keep down confusion.

cowymom
05-29-2008, 06:41 PM
barack has to denounce this church. this is more than enough

cowymom
05-29-2008, 06:43 PM
this priest was an advisor in the obama camp? can you guys imagine this

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:44 PM
Pfleger was an advisor on the Obama Campaign...if he thinks this way...you know they do.

Gerry2008
05-29-2008, 06:44 PM
I don't know what offends me more, what the pastor said against white people, or the loud cheering by the congregants while he was saying it.

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Why is Obama still a member of this church..

I don't think we should accept these so-called apologies...

The members of that church are hateful. The cheering is as bad as the comments. If the Obama family thinks this is okay...what will happen to this country.

Who is playing race games???

swannyj
05-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Until earlier today he was listed on Obama's website, however it has since been scrubbed. Larry at NQ has the screen shot though.

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 06:48 PM
So is this priest still an adviser or has that been scrubbed too?

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:48 PM
Guys, this thread already exist...may want to merge...more people have been viewing the other thread..plus it has the actual viedo..can a moderator merge these threads please.

Catherine
05-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Yet another religious person Obama has been forced to disavow. I'm curious is he also disavowing all those people standing and cheering while this crackpot ranted?

As my Italian in-laws say, "Fish rot from the head".

cowymom
05-29-2008, 06:52 PM
So is this priest still an adviser or has that been scrubbed too?

no longer an adviser

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:53 PM
The Obama camp has quickly removed his name from their web-site...as I said earlier..if he is talking like this...you know people in the campaign are.
Two huge issues for Obama this week.WWII and now Trinity again..Where is the outrage....

cowymom
05-29-2008, 06:54 PM
is there any other news media showing this? CNN, ABC, CBS and rest

SadStateOfAffairs
05-29-2008, 06:55 PM
It's also being discussed at ABC....

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/priest-and-obam.html

Donald
05-29-2008, 06:58 PM
is there any other news media showing this? CNN, ABC, CBS and rest

I haven't seen it anywhere else.

Fox is leading with this again at 6.

Donald
05-29-2008, 07:04 PM
Fox is reporting that this minister( a very left liberal) was one of Obama's personel spirtiutal advisers, had a role in the campaign as an advisor, and runs o group Catholics for Obama..He has stepped down after his weak apology.

thebword
05-29-2008, 07:09 PM
"The biggest challenge, I think, is always maintaining your moral compass."
A Chicago Sun Times articla in 2004
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

"I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you've got to face God," Pfleger says of Obama. "Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don't think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is."

Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church. The day after Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night Bible study.

cowymom
05-29-2008, 07:10 PM
Fox is reporting that this minister( a very left liberal) was one of Obama's personel spirtiutal advisers, had a role in the campaign as an advisor, and runs o group Catholics for Obama..He has stepped down after his weak apology.

so did he just step down from the campaign?

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 07:10 PM
I don't know what offends me more, what the pastor said against white people, or the loud cheering by the congregants while he was saying it.

The majority of blks feel this way bout white people.That is a fact and I am sure some blk members here will argue this fact with me on here but facts are facts.And i am not going to play cute with them.I am blk and i am here to state facts....PERIOD

thebword
05-29-2008, 07:12 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article

"The biggest challenge, I think, is always maintaining your moral compass."

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

"I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you've got to face God," Pfleger says of Obama. "Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don't think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is."

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 07:13 PM
The majority of blks feel this way bout white people.That is a fact and I am sure some blk members here will argue this fact with me on here but facts are facts.And i am not going to play cute with them.I am blk and i am here to state facts....PERIOD

You can always argue about your experience... but remember you don't speak for all blacks though. Regardless...

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 07:17 PM
You can always argue about your experience... but remember you don't speak for all blacks though. Regardless...
I said the majority of them are racist people that have to say cracka,honkey or any other different ethnicity slur daily in their lives to feel special bout themselves.....Sorry but white people need to start screaming,rioting,picketing the way blks does.And I am not for violence but maybe thats the only way to open the disgusting media eyes to their blunders.

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 07:21 PM
I said the majority of them are racist people that have to say cracka,honkey or any other different ethnicity slur daily in their lives to feel special bout themselves.....Sorry but white people need to start screaming,rioting,picketing the way blks does.And I am not for violence but maybe thats the only way to open the disgusting media eyes to their blunders.

No I read you right... I'm just saying you still couldn't possibly speak for a majority of blacks in this country; but that doesn't make your experience or opinion less valid by any means.

And I agree to disagree on the screaming and rioting, picketing etc. :)`

Donald
05-29-2008, 07:24 PM
so did he just step down from the campaign?

All I am hearing is that Obama is quickly distancing himself...again...

joeysky18
05-29-2008, 07:24 PM
Merged. Thanks Donald.

Calico
05-29-2008, 07:29 PM
If you look at the video, at the congregation, you will see many white folks there. Why I don't know, you would think they were not welcomed there. I would certainly feel out of place and feel like I had a giant bulls eye on my back. I live in Blacksburg, VA. and go to a United Methodist Church although I was born Southern Baptist. We have a mixed congregation, it is a university town, and there are people of all colors and nationalities there. I don't understand this kind of Christianity that is preached in Trinity Church. Where is the Christian love, the Word of God, the Bible? Where is the Sermon on the Mount? Where is the Beatitudes? The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth? What is it with this church? This is disturbing on so many levels.

I too am from Virginia. Go to an United Methodist Church. And, I would never attend or be a member of a church that promoted such hate. I come from a family that believed saying the "GD" word is wrong and I can not imagine attending a church that spewed such hate. This is not mainstream America. This is pure hatred. At first I, too, wondered about the white people in the congregation. I came to the conclusion that some white people tend to "gravitate" to this kind of hatred that is practiced in the church for whatever reason. Or, perhaps these are inter-racial families. Just my guess/opinion. I totally agree, that this whole issue with Obama and this church/spiritual advisers is most disturbing! He should absolutely not be the Democratic nominee!

Hillary-in-the-Box
05-29-2008, 07:31 PM
Holy crap. (pun intended) Who the hell does that m****r f****r think he is? This doesn't make any sense to me..... on SO many levels!
Un-f***ing-believable. I am stunned.

movingtous
05-29-2008, 07:40 PM
Well, let these people gloat all they want. Their guy cannot get in the White House without these "entitled" people's votes!

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Well, let these people gloat all they want. Their guy cannot get in the White House without these "entitled" people's votes!

oh yes he can.I put money on it that somehow rules will be changed during the ge so this man get in that white house.It has to be something supernatural for this man to even get this damn far

mkreyns
05-29-2008, 07:49 PM
I'm waiting for Hell to Break Loose!!

RayinAR
05-29-2008, 07:51 PM
Wow...

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

YouTube - Obama's Church: Hillary Cried Because White Supremacy Failed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y)

The racist trash in this video makes me sick.

spdubois
05-29-2008, 07:53 PM
I am so tired of the "blame game" -- the people in the church are jumping up and down waving their hands, hooting and hollering. I would never attend a church like this and there is NO excuse for anyone else to either.

Morgan
05-29-2008, 08:08 PM
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do do not want to lose their jobs.” Booker T. Washington 1911

EngCindy
05-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Well, I think it is time we have a real discussion about Obama's religion;
Black Liberation Theology.....Oppressed VS Oppressor.

"Kill whitey" and God is Black and if he is not, then we must kill God.....

NO MORE EXCUSES OBAMA.....take your hate filled religion, your race-baiting campaign and go back to Chicago ; I'm sure Pros. Fitzpatrick has a jail cell waiting for you.

After he throws the T.U.C.C. under the bus, maybe M.O. will be next ?

thebword
05-29-2008, 08:11 PM
Shepard Smith just mentioned the Chicago Sun Times article I emailed to FOX News an hour ago. The article is from 2004, and Obama calls Fr. Pfleger a friend and advisor. He mentions going to his Bible studies.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article Keep emailing the Media. It seems as if they need us to spoon feed them the information. They must not have researchers.

Justmy.02
05-29-2008, 08:16 PM
I went over to ABC and commented on their story. You would not believe some of the absolute filth posted by BO supporters (and when I say filth, I mean it!) I am keeping track of some of these comments...

BTW, Morgan, I love the comment by Booker T. Washington. What a wise man!

joeysky18
05-29-2008, 08:22 PM
"Kill whitey" and God is Black and if he is not, then we must kill God.....

NO MORE EXCUSES OBAMA.....

Yes, I find that statement very disturbing. There are Christian in every parts of the world. What if God for them is Oriental, Arab, Indian, Chinese, Malay, Japanese, etc. Would those God must be killed too? You got the picture.

These people are filling the world with hatred. It's hypocrisy that the man who run on unity goes to church that preach hatred.

RachachaSharon
05-29-2008, 08:30 PM
I just played the video for my husband. He called him a black preacher wannabe. This is disgusting. I am Catholic and I have never heard the like. Most priests are gentle and conciliatory. This man is a race baiter. Maybe he has a trust fund but I sure don't. What we have, we've worked for and taught our kids to work hard. I would never attend this man's church. He's a disgrace.

justme819
05-29-2008, 08:34 PM
wrote this a little while ago,

btw, Obama may be able to get away with supposedly distancing himself from his Pastor...but he can never get away with distancing himself from the beliefs, teachings, philosophies, etc., of the church he went to for over 20 yrs. - his church of choice...beliefs, etc., as expressed in the, "Black Value System!"...

according to the Rev. Wright, they teach a SEPARATE BUT = black theology among other things...as can be seen at the website...

if anyone really wants to vote for someone who preaches unity while choosing to go to such a divisive church...!???

Molly
05-29-2008, 08:45 PM
I want Hillary to make a HUGE RACIST issue on this. IF these comments were made in Hillary's or McCain's church about obama they would riot in the streets - with the help of Sharpton & Jackson. Where is the outrage???? This is a DISGRACE!

Peppermint Patty
05-29-2008, 08:47 PM
Show of hands; how many white people here have trust funds? What is it about "whites" and "trust funds"? Didn't Michelle O make a similar statement?
Unless Paris Hilton is on these lists, most of us are working class (black and white) folks.
And does the good Father realize 401(k) accounts are open to all people (assuming their employers offer them) regardless of race, creed, color, etc.?


TRUST FUND???? Ha! I'm lucky I have two dimes in a savings account! Seriously. :(

deniseds
05-29-2008, 08:47 PM
I just played the video for my husband. He called him a black preacher wannabe. This is disgusting. I am Catholic and I have never heard the like. Most priests are gentle and conciliatory. This man is a race baiter. Maybe he has a trust fund but I sure don't. What we have, we've worked for and taught our kids to work hard. I would never attend this man's church. He's a disgrace.

I am also a Catholic and I had a hard time viewing the tape. I do not understand how the church has let this man continue race baiting and all this hate.

VANITY4HILLARY
05-29-2008, 08:50 PM
I want Hillary to make a HUGE RACIST issue on this.
I do to and i don't want her to play nice either about it.
This shyt is sick and its even sicker that the media is not on this crap

Peppermint Patty
05-29-2008, 08:54 PM
OMG, after reading all your comments I am ashamed to be Catholic. I won't even watch that video because I may lose it. How dare he????????? I will send a letter to that archdiocese and give them a piece of my mind.

BTW, my brother sent me that news, he said this Priest is a known Nut!!! Still, if he's bashing Hillary that's wrong and not Christian at all!

And here's what my brother sent me:

BEST OF THE WEB TODAY - WSJ online

Meanwhile, Back at Trinity United
By JAMES TARANTO
May 29, 2008

Blogger Armando Llorens of the pro-Clinton site TalkLeft.com1 has an eye-opening video from the Trinity United Church of Christ, which remains Barack Obama's church. The video was uploaded to YouTube2 this past Sunday, though it is unclear if it was shot then or earlier. But to judge by the subject matter, it is quite recent.

The video features Father Michael Pfleger, with an introduction by the Rev. Otis Moss, Jeremiah Wright's successor at Trinity United. As we noted last month3, the Democratic presidential front-runner described Moss as a "wonderful young pastor" after Obama renounced Wright.

Blogress Michelle Malkin4 has transcribed the video, in which Pfleger, described by Moss as "a friend of Trinity . . . a brother beloved . . . a preacher par excellence . . . a prophetic, powerful pulpiteer . . . our friend . . . our brother," delivers a hateful rant against Hillary Clinton:

When Hillary was crying [gesturing tears, uproarious laughter from audience]--and people said that was put-on--I really don't believe it was put-on.
I really believe that she just always thought "This is mine" [laughter, hoots]. "I'm Bill's wife. I'm white. And this is mine. And I jus' gotta get up. And step into the plate." And then out of nowhere came, "Hey, I'm Barack Obama." And she said: "Oh, damn! Where did you come from!?!?!" [Crowd going nuts, Pfleger screaming]. "I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show." [Sobs.] She wasn't the only one crying! There was a whole lotta white people cryin'!
Who is Michael Pfleger? As we noted last month5, he is a strong supporter of Louis Farrakhan and has been described as a "spiritual adviser" to Obama. He also publicly threatened the life of a Chicago businessman and, according to one report, "is known for climbing ladders to deface liquor billboards."

In his Trinity United oration, Pfleger asserted that white people have a moral obligation to surrender their assets, which, he suggested, properly belong to blacks (the video clip begins in midsentence):

--honest enough to address the one who says, "Well, don't hold me responsible [gesticulating] for what my ancestors did." But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did and unless you are ready to give up the benefits [voice rising], throw away your 401 fund, throw away your trust fund, throw away all the money you put into the company you walked into because yo' daddy and yo' granddaddy and yo' greatgranddaddy--[screaming at the top of his lungs]--unless you're willing to give up the benefits, then you must be responsible for what was done in your generation 'cuz you are the beneficiary of this insurance policy!
Pfleger is white. Many Illinois taxpayers are black. The New York Times6 reported earlier this month that the latter have been forced to subsidize the former, through the good offices of one state Sen. Barack Obama:

Mr. Obama more eagerly met the demands for spending earmarks for churches and community groups in his district, said State Senator Donne E. Trotter, then the ranking Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee. "I know this firsthand, because the community groups in his district stopped coming to me," Mr. Trotter said.
Typical of Mr. Obama's earmarks was a $100,000 grant for a youth center at a Catholic church run by the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a controversial priest who was one of the few South Side clergymen to back Mr. Obama against [Rep. Bobby] Rush.
Father Pfleger has long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church. Father Pfleger, who did not return calls for comment, is one of the religious leaders whose "faith testimonials" Mr. Obama has posted on his presidential campaign Web site.
We searched the Obama Web site in vain for Pfleger's endorsement. It appears the campaign has suppressed it, although a copy appears on the Michelle Malkin page linked above.
Llorens, the TalkLeft blogger who posted the video, says twice in his short post that "this has nothing to do with Barack Obama." It seems to us Llorens is quite wrong about this, although possibly he is being ironic. For one thing, it raises serious questions about Obama's moral judgment that he not only attends but sends his two young daughters to a church whose pulpit regularly features such hatred.

It also renders doubtful one of the most frequent arguments for an Obama presidency: that he would diminish anti-American sentiment around the world through his conciliatory mien and tough diplomacy. His response to the political crisis over his spiritual advisers has been vacillatory, not conciliatory: first he stood by them, then he distanced himself from them. Now he pretends they don't exist--which differs from the putative Bush administration approach to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad & Co. how exactly?

Obama does not appear to have succeeded in diminishing anti-American sentiment in his own church, from religious leaders who fervently support him. The danger is that he would show similar weakness on the world stage, and that America's enemies would find such weakness provocative rather than meliorative.

Goodwill Industries7
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in an interview8 (audio only) with the San Francisco Chronicle, offers a curious explanation for recent American success in Iraq:

The purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn't happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn't accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians--they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities--the Iranians.
"This is an inexcusable slander," fumes Commentary's Abe Greenwald, who accuses Pelosi of "discounting the success of the American military, denying the accomplishments of U.S. allies, and giving the credit to our most dangerous enemies."

But doesn't this miss the point? Who needs Barack Obama if the Bush administration is generating so much Iranian goodwill?

Cheney Liberates Auschwitz9
By now you've heard about this slip-up from Barack Obama:

"I had an uncle who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. The story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months," Obama said.
Obama's campaign later issued a statement saying it was his great-uncle, not his uncle, who participated in liberating the Buchanwald concentration camp, not the Auschwitz death camp. The latter was liberated by the Soviet army.

But what caught our attention was the bit about the attic. Compare to this CNN10 report from November:

Obama was referencing the recent revelation by the Vice President's wife, Lynne Cheney, that he and the Vice President are distantly related.
"For the first time in a long time, the name George Bush will not appear on the ballot," he told the crowd of about 500 people at Converse College in Spartanburg.
"The name Dick Cheney, my cousin, will not appear on the ballot," Obama said. "We had been trying to hide that cousin thing for a long time. Everybody's got a black sheep in the family. A crazy uncle in the attic."
And where was Barack Obama when crazy old Dick Cheney was liberating Auschwitz? Let's just say he had other priorities.

takakupo
05-29-2008, 09:19 PM
...
Is this what Bill Burton was trying to deflect with his RFK e-mail to 2,000 reporters.

thebword
05-29-2008, 09:46 PM
This just posted on FOX News website. DIGG IT

Home | Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Top Story
AT OBAMA’S CHURCH, CHICAGO MINISTER SAYS CLINTON FELT ‘WHITE’ ENTITLEMENT
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, May 29, 2008

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article

The aide told FOX News that when Obama was a state Senator in 2000, he secured a $100,000 earmark for the ARK Community Center, a center attached to Pfleger’s St. Sabina church. The aide said the initiative was awarded to help keep at risk kids off the streets by giving them a place to play.

Pfleger was also once a member of the Catholics for Obama Committee, which is a voluntary advisory committee to the Obama campaign, the aide said. But the aide said Pfleger decided to step down a few weeks ago from this committee, though the campaign did not request the resignation.

Lodi
05-29-2008, 10:16 PM
I just sat down after eating breakfast, and I turned this on, and looked into the face of the priest, and said BAD. It's high time churches are investigated!

Yes, and have their tax-exempt status removed as well for politicking from the pulpit. The upside is that this should play in Hillary's favor. It's just so ludicrous and hateful and divisive. ICK! :eek:

Bacio83
05-29-2008, 11:04 PM
Ya know I wanna make a video that is supposed to be an expose about the horrible church that HRC goes to... And then with all the buildup just show a regular preaching love church.. LOL This isn't funny I know but I still think it'd be a good laugh.

Alessandro Machi
05-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Because of this video, not the Pastor Wright video, but specifically because of this video of Pfegler and his racist rant against Hillary Clinton, I actually feel a twinge of regret for not being a racist.

I feel like I have no tribe. I feel that it is stupid to not belong to a group if all the other groups insist on having their own place to call home in which they call others racists.

SugnSpicesmom
05-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I have avoided looking at this video all day. I just didn't want to do it. Then I saw that Fox aired it and I decided to go ahead and view it. I am absolutely sick inside after watching it. How in the world does Obama even look his backers in the face? How does he say he doesn't/didn't know what was going on there? How in the world do his backers say it doesn't matter what was preached in that building? I can't even call it a church because it isn't. Those people again stood and cheered that white racist son-of-a-bitch and they're not racist??? God forgive me but I can never forgive them.

spdubois
05-29-2008, 11:37 PM
Basically the guy is calling Hillary a racists --

“I’m white, I’m entitled, there’s a black man stealing my show” ---- “she wasn’t the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying”

When is the Democratic party going to step in and say ENOUGH. Jeez these guys take shots at Hillary all the time and nohting happens. If the roles were reversed – and this was being said about "barry" how do you think the story would play out?

Molly
05-29-2008, 11:40 PM
Thanks for the e-mail - I sent the good "Father" a note! I am just shocked at a Catholic Priest saying such RACIST comments about a US Senator - in a church and think that it is OK. I told him he brings SHAME to my Catholic Religion - this is a Disgrace! Obama must believe the same message - same church, different pastor - and to see the people Cheering - I am just sick!

ILBlue
05-29-2008, 11:46 PM
Does anyone of you remember the story of he Illegal that stayed at the church in Chicago over a year ago for months on end because she was being deported for welfare fraud?

If you do , this was the priest that gave her and her son shelter at his church.

I can't view the video, so haven't seen it yet.

carmaken
05-29-2008, 11:48 PM
A month ago, I would have responded "Are these people just plain stupid?!" But now I wonder, with most of the news giving Obama a free ride; maybe they are just being "In your face" to Hillary's Campaign. It's like they are trying to see just how much s--t they can put on the air against her and have it nearly ignored, not even raise an eyebrow.

I looked at the times of the original posts and they were all this morning. I heard nothing about Father Fleger until Greta's show

Ijane
05-29-2008, 11:48 PM
It has to be something supernatural for this man to even get this damn far

There's nothing supernatural about it. It's good old fashioned corruption.

joeysky18
05-29-2008, 11:53 PM
I have avoided looking at this video all day. I just didn't want to do it. Then I saw that Fox aired it and I decided to go ahead and view it. I am absolutely sick inside after watching it.

I have been avoiding the tape as well. I can't make myself watch it. I still want to believe that people are born good. I still want to keep my faith in the human race. Before Barack Obama came to the public and dragged along his friends with him, I never knew that it will be possible for people to harbor so much unjustified hatred. He doesn't bring any unity formula with him.

MaryKay
05-30-2008, 12:01 AM
Where is that Bill Cosby thread? Murray???

JOY TO THE WORLD
05-30-2008, 12:09 AM
The sad thing about this video and Obama's connection is that even when he sent out a press release denouncing the priest friend, action, he never gave an apology to Sen Clinton--and the priest apology was bogus as well...Obama is evil through and through and his friends are who he is. This priest is sharing the very thing that he and Obama, along with Rev Wright believe...racist of any color are no good for America or the world!

lovelikethisbefore
05-30-2008, 12:25 AM
It is disgusting that people are standing up and cheering but it is not suprrising. I am black and the amount of bamboozling going on by Obama's campaign about Hillary and making Hillary into being something shes not is not new. Black people will wake up when he sees he used us and denounces all things black if he is the nominee in the general election.

lovelikethisbefore
05-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Because of this video, not the Pastor Wright video, but specifically because of this video of Pfegler and his racist rant against Hillary Clinton, I actually feel a twinge of regret for not being a racist.

I feel like I have no tribe. I feel that it is stupid to not belong to a group if all the other groups insist on having their own place to call home in which they call others racists.

Please don't let this make you turn racist, this is a fringe church Obama attends and people ought to understand that!

hillary4change
05-30-2008, 12:28 AM
This is so shocking to me.

How do these people know what is in my heart?

If they know what is in my heart after having NEVER met me...then it is safe for me to say after, watching them...THEY ARE HATEFUL RACISTS!!

But if I said that, I would be the racist. This is what obama has brought...total division. If you try to defend you are racist. If you don't vote for him you are racist!

He has set it up where we are at fault and can never be anything but racist deserving of hate!

President of Hope & Change!

MaryKay
05-30-2008, 12:32 AM
What makes me so angry, is that how are my great grandparents and grandparents responsible for slavery? My maiden name is a Russian last name. My great grandfather was held in a Siberian work camp for about 10 years because he would not fight for the Bolsheviks. He escaped, only to return home to find out he had a son... my grandfather...

My great grandfather came to America by stowing away on a cattle boat. He worked hard by shining and repairing people's shoes on the streets of NYC, and when he saved enough money, he sent for his family. My grandfather could not read or write his own language when he arrived, let alone English, so as a twelve-year-old, he was put into the first grade... He suffered humiliation from the kids and the teachers until he turned 18 with a sixth grade education. My grandfather didn't let that cloud his judgement of our nation. He fought in WW II. He worked hard and became a union leader in Pittsburgh and fought for voting rights union members of all colors to the point where he almost lost his life. He became a successful businessman in spite of his education. His proudest accomplishment was as general manager for a meat company; he finally got great hot dogs into Three Rivers Stadium. The man was known by all the media in Pittsburgh in the 70's. Although I would say the voting this was his greatest. When he told me that on Sunday while we were all eating salami sandwiches at his house when I was a kid, I was enthralled. He just thought taking a baseball bat and theatening poeple who didn't want to let African American union members vote was what he had to do...

Some white people stood up for what was right. Obama needs to remember that... Again... Murray... where is that Cosby article?

Might not sound like much with the hot dogs, but he made a lot of people happy. This man loved this country.

B positive
05-30-2008, 12:38 AM
I've seen other youtube videos of this "priest" for awhile now.... I doubt he'll be a priest for too much longer.... racism, no matter which way it flows, is just plain wrong.

I feel this "priest" is using AA frustrations and channeling it into hatred for white people.:( The way the congregation members were clapping and such gave me the impression that deep down these AA church members really believe that white people have 401k and trust funds.... what a disservice - the real victims are the members of this congregation... especially the young children. I just want to hug the kids sitting there listening to this.

teachgrd3
05-30-2008, 12:39 AM
MaryKay, God bless your grandfather. I enjoyed those hot dogs at Three Rivers Stadium! What a story..... and there are millions of stories all across this great country.

What is going on in Obama's church is absolutely rotten. To praise hate and division is obscene.

This church needs to be condemned and Obama's cakewalk needs to end. I really hope Hillary speaks out, loud and clear.

Alessandro Machi
05-30-2008, 12:44 AM
Please don't let this make you turn racist, this is a fringe church Obama attends and people ought to understand that!

I feel a twinge of regret, and I always will, because I realize now that my own professional career has suffered because I never wanted to belong to a specific "tribe". I believe in taking each moment for its worth. But I see now there is a price to pay for not having a "wink, wink, nudge nudge" social group, it spills over into other areas of life.

DrLisa
05-30-2008, 12:50 AM
I just got home from work and turned on the news. Oh my goodness, another preacher filled with hate and anger. Wrights best friend and a strong supporter of BO.

What does this tell us about him. Birds of feather flock together I always say.

VotingHillary
05-30-2008, 12:56 AM
Perhaps that "priest" should learn the history of his Chicago Irish-Catholic parishoners...most of their ancestors came over to America as indentured servants...a fancy European way of saying..SLAVES! They were referred to as "white niggers." I have a sign in my home circa 1928, courtesy of the Fulton Printing Company. It is the sign my grandfather faced when looking for a job in Pittsburgh. It reads "Now Hiring...Irish Need Not Apply." It is dated 1928..not even a hundred years ago. I have it over my front door so every day I am reminded that I am not that far removed from prejudice myself and to respect others as they are. Apparently, that priest is in need of a serious history lesson.

I bring this up because as someone whose recent ancestors also suffered the injustice of prejudice...my vote is not based on race, creed or color. It is for the best candidate...Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Christines
05-30-2008, 01:07 AM
Father Michael Phleger is sick! He is an embarrassment! He looks like he is trying out for Saturday Night Live. He is so pathetic! Obviously he wants his fifteen seconds of fame and media attention!

Morgan
05-30-2008, 01:09 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/us/politics/11chicago.html?_r=2&pagewanted=4&sq=Michael%20Pfleger%20&st=nyt&scp=2&oref=slogin


Typical of Mr. Obama’s earmarks was a $100,000 grant for a youth center at a Catholic church run by the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a controversial priest who was one of the few South Side clergymen to back Mr. Obama against Mr. Rush

Father Pfleger has long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church. Father Pfleger, who did not return calls for comment, is one of the religious leaders whose “faith testimonials” Mr. Obama has posted on his presidential campaign Web site.

Musicdude
05-30-2008, 01:09 AM
I feel this "priest" is using AA frustrations and channeling it into hatred for white people.:( .

It's White-Elitist-Racism. It's exhibited by him, and much of the MSM, and a large faction of Obama supporters. What's the mindset of white-elitist-racists? Whether conscious of it or not, this is their attitude:
"We are the better white people. We pretend to empathize with those who feel less fortunate. We tolerate and assist reverse-racism and because it makes us appear superior, and politically avant garde. It elevates our own white status among whites, and other races. We have ascended above the fray. We are the elite white people who grade on a curve, to benefit non-whites who are not as superior as us. "

floorrunner
05-30-2008, 01:29 AM
This priest should be ex-communicated from the Catholic Church. I was born catholic, raised catholic and will die catholic. No catholic church that I have ever set foot in has ever spewed this kind of venom. This man does not preach Catholicism.

rob3gdd
05-30-2008, 01:49 AM
This is not the real black church! Obama and his church is crazy people. this man is teaching them how to be victims in this society

MaryKay
05-30-2008, 01:59 AM
MaryKay, God bless your grandfather. I enjoyed those hot dogs at Three Rivers Stadium! What a story..... and there are millions of stories all across this great country.

**************************

Oh, thank you. Yeah, we was with Kahn's Meats and KDKA called him the "Kahn Man." :D

Musicdude
05-30-2008, 02:11 AM
The Superdelegates who endorse Obama....
Don't they understand that video clips like this will be showing up for years, all around the world? That's how they want the U.S. represented? Incredible. :rolleyes:

Morgan
05-30-2008, 02:14 AM
Im Sorry but watching a white man trying to act Black is beyond gross:eek:


Especially if he does a bad job of it.

ImmaSlave4U
05-30-2008, 04:32 AM
I haven't been near the TV....has this been on the news?

lea210
05-30-2008, 08:07 AM
I bet Satan is smiling at this church...sick disgusting church

Johnf
05-30-2008, 08:47 AM
OMG!!!:eek:
What an outrage. I have never seen such trash talk, on the podium, and coming from a preacher, nonetheless! For Ohio Mom, Father Michael, a Catholic priest, took to the podium and started preaching, like a black preacher would. (in my 18 years attending Catholic sermons, I had never seen a priest talk the way Father Michael did.) It's almost as though he put on an act...eyes closed, hand raised in the air, voice rising and lowering for effect, you know what I mean. The only thing he didn't do was have this tremor in his voice as the pitch goes up and up. Anyway, he's talking about our ancestors. Making fun of white people who say that Black people cannot blame them for what their ancestors did. Father Michael, white priest, said that yes, of course they can blame white people. If you benefit from what your ancestors did for you, ie 401k, insurance, etc, then you reap the benefits of what your ancestors did, so you cannot say that you can't take the blame. People cheering wildly and clapping their hands, nodding heads, hooting in the background. This egged Father Michael on to say that When Hillary cried in New Hampshire, it was because she realized that her white "entitlement" was being taken away by Barak Obama. Who's this black man who came along and decides to take something from a white person?
In a nutshell, this sermon was VERY racially divisive, and I for one, will never, ever, ever, ever, ever vote for their man, after this. Done. No more for me.
White or black, no one is entitled and I am getting sick of all this racial divisiveness, especially when it is being cheered on by churchgoers!:mad::mad::mad:

I have a family member who is a priest, and you are right, no, they would never speak like this.

We should write the Vatican they need to know:

http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

Les33
05-30-2008, 11:28 AM
That was like watching some kind of bizarre pornography. His way of forwarding civil rights is to pretend to be black in an obscenely embarrassing way, railing against white people as if he isn't one, as if all white people should be uptight self-loathing egomaniacal pricks like him. I wonder what kind of house he lives in, if he wants to trade his for my white person 300 sq ft apartment in East Harlem. God this has gotten weird.