(May 29, 2008): "Pelosi Prepared to 'step in' to end race" (CNN) - Pelosi declares her God-like status to single-handedly decide for all but this just inspires Hillary's supporters even more!!

[CGP]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/29/pelosi-prepared-to-step-in-to-end-race

Well my byline in the thread title was clearly a sarcastic take on Pelosi's latest diatribe...

I think Pelosi and all her DNC pals are doing Obama a great disservice by saying things this like this, if it is truly their wish for to be the nominee. And this is because the more people like her make outrageous and absurd statements, the more defiant and motivated HC supporters become to ensure Hillary fights all the way to the convention!!! Nancy Pelosi has clearly overstepped the mark, yet again, acting as though she alone has the power to decide the nominee. She doesn't. Last time I checked the DNC nomination rules didn't list that Ms. Pelosi decides who wins! Who does she think she is? It's abundantly clear she is a massive Obama backer and dislikes Clinton. Fine, good for her, but she's forgotten one thing - voters decide elections. And this time will be no different.

Shame on her. Truly.

Please note - this thread is not to be a "trash Pelosi" thread. Focus on the reasons why her statements are ill-advised and destructive to the Democratic party and why such comments do not help her candidate, Obama, AT ALL!

[Cooney]

I believe Her daughter or is her niece is a CA Superdelegate and big supporter of BO, and a columnist for the Huff Post, Oh the webs we weave Pelosi Family.

Nancy Pelosi
Address:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-4965
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.house.gov/pelosi/

Christine Pelosi, Superdelegate from CA
Address:
17 3rd St.
Washington, DC 20002
Phone: 202-546-9399
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-pelosi/
Email: Not Available

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-pelosi/


Attorney, author, and activist Christine Pelosi has a lifetime of grassroots experience in politics and public policy. She has engaged in extensive voter contact, education, and mobilization efforts at the local, state, and federal levels. Her new book, Campaign Boot Camp: Basic Training for Future Leaders, emerged from her years of grassroots activism and the Trail Mix blog she wrote as director of the AFSCME PEOPLE/New House PAC Congressional Candidates Boot Camp, which worked with over 40 challengers in 2006, 12 of whom were elected to Congress.

Christine has served as executive director of the CA Democratic Party, deputy city attorney and assistant district attorney for the City of San Francisco, HUD special counsel in the Clinton-Gore administration, and chief of staff to U.S. Congressman John F. Tierney (MA-06). Since 1996, she has chaired the CA Democratic Party Platform Committee and served as an elected member of the DNC, where she co-founded the DNC Veterans and Military Families Council.

She holds a J.D. from the University of California Hastings College of the Law and a B.S.F.S. from Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. An avid baseball fan, she lives within walking distance of her beloved San Francisco Giants. She is married to filmmaker Peter Kaufman.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

I cannot believe Nancy Pelosi - oh wait

YES I CAN

she has been taking Jabs at Hillary since March

[Frances]

pay for her step ins? Sounds like there is a twist in her step ins.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

So what is Nancy Pelosi going to do when she steps in???

[agalfromcal4hill]

She needs to keep out of this. She's just jealous of Hillary, and worried about losing her most powerful position. NOT. What a joke she's become! I used to support her, she had been a great supportor of gay rights. But now I'm thinking she's just a wolf is sheeps clothing. Used the gays to gain her power, now stomps on our rights. Hillary clearly has been the more pro-gay rights, and human rights for that matter. Madame Speaker keep your nose out of this, stop trying to change the rules, this race must go to the convention. Deal with it sister!

[CGP]

So what is Nancy Pelosi going to do when she steps in???

She doesn't have any power to do anything. It's all propaganda to support her candidate, Barack Obama. And if she thinks people are stupid enough to fall for her propaganda, she is mistaken.

Case closed.

[nette60]

I believe Her daughter or is her niece is a CA Superdelegate and big supporter of BO, and a columnist for the Huff Post, Oh the webs we weave Pelosi Family.

Nancy Pelosi
Address:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-4965
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.house.gov/pelosi/

Christine Pelosi, Superdelegate from CA
Address:
17 3rd St.
Washington, DC 20002
Phone: 202-546-9399
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-pelosi/
Email: Not Available

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-pelosi/

Her daughter lives in Ca. and is Obama supporter. I just can't believe Pelosi grew up in Baltimore where I grew up.....I think her father would turn over in his grave..He was avery popular Democratic mayor

[E. Rivers]

I honestly don't know how Pelosi expects to "step in." Hillary has every right to continue on to the convention, and I think the anxiety over the "damage" she will do to the Democratic party is unfounded. If (that's a big if) Obama is as strong a candidate as they claim, Hillary's continued participation in the primary shouldn't make any difference. Right?:rolleyes:

[xfiles]

Something unethical, illegal, undemocratic and disgusting I'm sure.

Maybe there will have to be class action lawsuits against the likes of her and some others.


So what is Nancy Pelosi going to do when she steps in???

[jdona]

How many of you read all the blog comments? Now they are threatening Clinton supporters if we demonstrate outside the DNC? Who do these people think they are? What are in we in here, a country ruled by martial law? I do believe the Constitution guarentees us the right to congregate and the right of assembly? Boy it pisses me off that they closed comments to that article. They seem to do that a lot once they get their required number of pro-Obama comments.

[CGP]

If (that's a big if) Obama is as strong a candidate as they claim, Hillary's continued participation in the primary shouldn't make any difference. Right?:rolleyes:

Correct. The only reason we see the MASS HYSTERIA is precisely because Clinton is such a strong candidate and Obama is such a weak candidate.

[CGP]

Boy it pisses me off that they closed comments to that article. They seem to do that a lot once they get their required number of pro-Obama comments.

CNN always does this. Always.

[Dendy]

I can’t even get angry over comments like that anymore.
For me Pelosi just officially lost her mind!
However I did send her an email.:)

[indigo]

fox needs to know about her superdelegate daughter and obama supporter. Let's turn this around and garner the outrage this deserves. Who is Pelosi...the queen that determines things. Kennedy went to the convention 700 delegates behind. Technically Pelosi can't do anything, but will be very vocal. There is a lot of tension between Pelosi and Clintons

[Kbentleyis]

I emailed her this morning and told her she's not big enough to push the American people around. Her statements are as useless as she is!

Also, I told her that "We're going all the way to the Convention! and, get use to the words "FREEDOM OF CHOICE!" "MOST POPULAR VOTE."

[Angelica91]

Her daughter lives in Ca. and is Obama supporter. I just can't believe Pelosi grew up in Baltimore where I grew up.....I think her father would turn over in his grave..He was avery popular Democratic mayor
hahah Her daughter????
Nancy Pelosi is only trying to help Obama but She won't!:D

[shadow]

I hope those who live in Pelosi's state are prepared to vote her out of office when she is up for re-election.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

i just sent her an email telling her that she has become a communist, fascist dictator like dean and that she should be ashamed of herself and her boy is not going to win the g.e. and we are not coming home to roost, among other things.

[joeysky18]

I sent the following response to the author and Pelosi.


To AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

Subject: Reality Check For The House Speaker

Dear the honorable House Speaker,

May I humbly remind you that you or any other politician don't own the Democratic Party nor the country. For your own goods, you must realize that the fight is not between you and Sen. Clinton. You may try to push Sen. Clinton out of the race as much as you like. But you must be aware that you are not simply pushing one candidate. The people that you are trying to push of the race are the 17 millions voters who believe in their bones that Sen. Clinton is the best candidate and casted their voted for her. You are telling us to get out, pack our things, go home, and fall in line. I'm sorry to tell you that the era of falling in line is over.

This will be a fight between one Nancy Pelosi and 17 million voters that voted for HRC and want the have the best candidate for the president.

This is not a fight between DNC and its candidate. It will be a fight between DNC and its core supporters. And DNC doesn't hold the power. We do. It's the power to the people. And we are the boss. The politicians in offices wouldn't be there today if we didn't vote for them. DNC will cease to exist if we no longer support them. So they should respect our decision. If voters say Sen. Clinton should make her case at the convention, then no politician has the right to stand in her way.

Kind regards,
xx xxx

[Ijane]

"I will step in," Pelosi told the paper. "Because we cannot take this fight to the convention…It must be over before then."

The Democratic party has stepped in so often already which is why we're going to the convention in the first place!

Nancy needs to work on something constructive like the price of gas at the pumps...which is long overdue.

I can't WAIT to watch Nancy, Howard, Donna, Obama and the entire DNC implode.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

well said Joey!!! :)

[BooskerD]

Man...reading some of those comments got my blood pressure up! What a bunch of idiots. "BaRack the vote!" "God bless Donna Pelosi, God bless Obama!" "Obama 08!" I hate those stupid soundbites they use in every post.

[Leekosagrios]

It just eats Pelosi inside-out that Hillary will become the most powerful woman in the country because until recently, that was HER title. Eat it, Pelosi, and get over it!

[Musicdude]

She sounds worried that Hillary can win at the convention. She's also being insistent about MI and FL being penalized, and that the issue should be silenced.

But here's my question, can other people at the convention, besides Hillary, bring up her nomination and the MI and FL at the convention? I dont know how all that works. :confused:

Also, it sounds like she will step in to deliver some sort of political threat to Hillary if she doesn't concede, back Obama, campaign for Obama and agree not to introduce any controversial issues at the Convention.

But if Obama's campaign implodes during summer, all issues come up at the convention anyway.

And by the way, these so-called Democratic leaders need to stop treating Hillary like she's some sort of "employee" of theirs. Hillary has the votes. She has clout. She can make or break the election for the Democrats.

[Tea toaD]

I feel Nancy Pelosi is trying to use her current position to over shadow Hillary's strength. It's very clear that she wants Hillary out of the race so they can work on Obama's GE appeal and try to "heal the party". In my view, she is also trying to prove she is the stronger female in this situation. She doen't see that she would be stepping on Hillary supporter's backs and pushing her candidate of choice down our throats. It's party first, second and always with her and the rest:mad:

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

How could Pelosi be so envious :(

She should be proud of Hillary possibly becoming the First Woman President !!!

[LarryMac]

She needs to step in and vote the way her state did before she becomes the biggest hypocrite in history.

[Joe from WI]

Pelosi has stepped over her boundaries. I will no longer have any hint of sympathy for the DEM Party. From now onwards, i only care for Bill and Hillary; i can care less if DEM Party loses the GE for the next 100 years.

[joeysky18]

How could Pelosi be so envious :(

She should be proud of Hillary possibly becoming the First Woman President !!!

Do you realize that Hillary will become Nancy's boss?

Nancy is now the female who is third in command.

With HRC as president, she will be the female who is first in command.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

I agree Joe - The DEM Party is becoming something I no longer recognize!

it as if the Clintons are being treated like Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller :eek:

[Cooney]

I wote her as well, and I am from California, 2 hours from SF, and I will work tirelessly to get here unelected if that is what it takes.


Dear Madame Speaker:

My name is XXXXX, I am a resident of California and a supporter of Hillary Clinton. I am writing you because of your comments in the press that you will not allow a floor fight at the Convention. There are many women like myself who got involved in the political process because of Hillary Clinton. I like many woman have been disgusted by the treatment of this outstanding candidate by the you, the press, the DNC, and her opponent Barack Obama. The constant call for her to get out of the race, the race baiting, and most importantly the sexism and misogyny that has occurred to a First Lady and two term Senator is deplorable and now you saying you will block any Convention floor fight over the nomination and FL & MI. I am angry, I am disappointed in you, and the DNC. I had planned to volunteer at the convention, but my feeling toward the DNC right now can only be described as outrage, and cannot in good conscience support this organization who has stood by and said nothing as a major candidate and good democrat is treated in this manner. I hope you, like so many other, will not dismiss my concerns and protest.

Hillary Clinton has a commanding lead if you look at the projected electoral votes, the recent polling in swing states, her recent big wins in Kentucky and West Virginia, all evidence points to her being the strongest candidate going into the convention. She will most likely have the popular vote, and yet, democratic leaders and the press are talking as if she is a noncontender. Her base of support is what we need to win the general.

The one base of support that will likely defect in the general is women if Hillary is not our nominee. I am one of those women. I cannot bring myself to vote for Barack Obama. I dare say this is a real sentiment amongst many many women, and the sentiment is pervasive and growing.

I await the decision of the Rules Committee this weekend, but I fear that if the delegates are not seated in full, the negative sentiment against Barack Obama will only grow. It is Barack Obama who in fact blocked the redo in both those states.

I am 55 years old and have voted in every election since my 18th year. I have never not voted Democrat, but be assured I won't vote for Barack Obama. To insist that we women will fall in line for the general is a grave miscalculation.

Respectfully, XXXX

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

so Nancy Pelosi oppose Hillary because she will take the spotlight away from her :eek:

[CGP]

Pelosi has stepped over her boundaries. I will no longer have any hint of sympathy for the DEM Party. From now onwards, i only care for Bill and Hillary; i can care less if DEM Party loses the GE for the next 100 years.

I think millions of others are feeling the same way. If the DNC is "successful" in its bid to install a failed candidate, Barack Obama, I think that will spell the end of the "democractic" party as we know it.

[CQ4Hillary]

It is unbelieveable that she would even try to insinuate that she has that power! She does not.

Even more unbelievable to me and many others is the way Obama supporters seem to believe that HRC and all of us, her supporters, should shut up, take it for the team and be happy about it. "It's for the good of the party." They scream.

Okay, let's look at what they are really saying. (Again :rolleyes:)

BO Supporter: "You should get behind our candidate because he is the ONE and YOU PEOPLE ARE DIVSIVE."

OK, I suppose it's not divisive at all to tell us what we should do and accuse anyone with an opposing view of divisivness?

BO Supporter: "Get out of OUR party!"

I guess the fact that many, many of us have been life long democrats (some have even voted in previous elections ) means nothing to you and your bus loads of college students who are mostly new to voting and politics in general right? I guess they are the real DEMS according to your standards.

BO Supporter: " We don't need them. We have NEW VOTERS!"

Yes, NEW VOTERS, Hmmm see the comment above.

BO Supporter: "If you vote against Obama you by definition are a racist."

Um, lat time I checked people could vote for the person they felt was best for the job. NOT the person who would make my vote non-racist where does it say if you don't vote for the black guy you are racist? We can't vote our concience because why? because you think we are incapable of thinking through a decision and making it? If it's not the decision you agree with it's automaticly wrong? racist? where do you Obama supporters get the authority to make these judgments?

BO Supporter: "If you don't vote for Obama and he loses it will be Hillary's fault."

If he is nominated he WILL LOSE and get over it it WILL BE HIS FAULT! He is a flawed candidate and he cannot win the general election because of that. Once again we are told that if he should lose or not do well we can't blame him ever because, you know, it's never his fault people are racists![/I Note to Obama supporters If you want your candidate to win pick one who doesn't expect preferential treatment because he's [I]racially challenged

BO Supporter: "Obama IS the nominee so get over it!"

FACT: There is NO NOMINEE until the convention in August regardless so YOU get over it! If you're so sure then shut up and see if you're right! Who will be the nominee at the convention? I'd be willing to bet it's NOT Obama! If by some chance he does win the nomination you will have very little time to do your victory dance because you'll be crying in November!

[hillary1]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/29/pelosi-prepared-to-step-in-to-end-race

Well my byline in the thread title was clearly a sarcastic take on Pelosi's latest diatribe...

I think Pelosi and all her DNC pals are doing Obama a great disservice by saying things this like this, if it is truly their wish for to be the nominee. And this is because the more people like her make outrageous and absurd statements, the more defiant and motivated HC supporters become to ensure Hillary fights all the way to the convention!!! Nancy Pelosi has clearly overstepped the mark, yet again, acting as though she alone has the power to decide the nominee. She doesn't. Last time I checked the DNC nomination rules didn't list that Ms. Pelosi decides who wins! Who does she think she is? It's abundantly clear she is a massive Obama backer and dislikes Clinton. Fine, good for her, but she's forgotten one thing - voters decide elections. And this time will be no different.

Shame on her. Truly.

Please note - this thread is not to be a "trash Pelosi" thread. Focus on the reasons why her statements are ill-advised and destructive to the Democratic party and why such comments do not help her candidate, Obama, AT ALL!

this is all it is, if she has influence over the superdelegates to come out and endorse her OBAMA, then he reaches the 2209 number, he wins

she stated less than two weeks ago her neutrality on the subject, now she is jumping in to end the contest, why would anyone believe a politician with anything they say

the only INSTRUMENT hillarys' supporters have is to continue with our support for her all the way, if she is forced out before the convention, then we must do what we have all been saying here and around the country VOTE

HILLARY OR MCCAIN

we must let the dnc and others know we will not endorse the racism biased betrayal that has plaqued hillary clinton in this nomination process, we will divide the party, we will vote mccain, mccain has integrity, what does OBAMA HAVE, NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, EMPTY RHETORIC, NO SUBSTANCE, NOTHING TO GRAB HOLD OF, NOTHING TO HOLD ON TO, NOTHING TO GARNISH, HE IS LOST, BUT HIS PALS OF WRIGHT, FARREKHAM WILL WAIT IN THE WINGS FOR HIM, THE LEFTWING, AND THE LINCOLN BEDROOM

REMEMBER DONNA BRAZILE'S WORDS, "VOTE RUSH AND MCCAIN, THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION", "CATCH IT"

THE DNC IS TELLING YOU, YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT, WHO WE ARE, GO ELSEWHERE

LET'S NOT DISAPPOINT THEM

HILLARY OR MCCAIN

[CGP]

It is unbelieveable that she would even try to insinuate that she has that power! She does not.

Even more unbelievable to me and many others is the way Obama supporters seem to believe that HRC and all of us, her supporters, should shut up, take it for the team and be happy about it. "It's for the good of the party." They scream.

Okay, let's look at what they are really saying. (Again :rolleyes:)

BO Supporter: "You should get behind our candidate because he is the ONE and YOU PEOPLE ARE DIVSIVE."

OK, I suppose it's not divisive at all to tell us what we should do and accuse anyone with an opposing view of divisivness?

BO Supporter: "Get out of OUR party!"

I guess the fact that many, many of us have been life long democrats (some have even voted in previous elections ) means nothing to you and your bus loads of college students who are mostly new to voting and politics in general right? I guess they are the real DEMS according to your standards.

BO Supporter: " We don't need them. We have NEW VOTERS!"

Yes, NEW VOTERS, Hmmm see the comment above.

BO Supporter: "If you vote against Obama you by definition are a racist."

Um, lat time I checked people could vote for the person they felt was best for the job. NOT the person who would make my vote non-racist where does it say if you don't vote for the black guy you are racist? We can't vote our concience because why? because you think we are incapable of thinking through a decision and making it? If it's not the decision you agree with it's automaticly wrong? racist? where do you Obama supporters get the authority to make these judgments?

BO Supporter: "If you don't vote for Obama and he loses it will be Hillary's fault."

If he is nominated he WILL LOSE and get over it it WILL BE HIS FAULT! He is a flawed candidate and he cannot win the general election because of that. Once again we are told that if he should lose or not do well we can't blame him ever because, you know, it's never his fault people are racists![/I Note to Obama supporters If you want your candidate to win pick one who doesn't expect preferential treatment because he's [I]racially challenged

BO Supporter: "Obama IS the nominee so get over it!"

FACT: There is NO NOMINEE until the convention in August regardless so YOU get over it! If you're so sure then shut up and see if you're right! Who will be the nominee at the convention? I'd be willing to bet it's NOT Obama! If by some chance he does win the nomination you will have very little time to do your victory dance because you'll be crying in November!

Agree. Facts don't lie!

[suerw]

She doesn't have any power to do anything. It's all propaganda to support her candidate, Barack Obama. And if she thinks people are stupid enough to fall for her propaganda, she is mistaken.

Case closed.

Well said, Murray!!!

[Tim4Hillary]

Action Alert! NEED RESPONDERS' REBUTTAL

"Our Thoughts: Someone should inform House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that Clinton supporters don’t quit on their candidate. Also, that she should wait on coronating Obama because WE ARE TAKING this election to the convention. And we sincerely thank Speaker Pelosi for being so concerned with all American voters being truly heard at the Democratic Convention."



San Franscico Chronicle: Pelosi won't allow convention fight
By Carla Marinucci
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/28/MNQE10V1UL.DTL



Make Comments here

Email Carla Marinucci at cmarinucci@sfchronicle.com.

Email Nancy Pelosi - AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

BO Supporter: " We don't need them. We have NEW VOTERS!"

PFFFHT!!! LMFAO!!!!!

Do Obama supporters NOT Realize THEY LOSE more TRADITIONAL DEMS than GAIN Independents and New Voters


LMAO!

Barack Obama's coalition = LOSING COALITION

[suerw]

I think millions of others are feeling the same way. If the DNC is "successful" in its bid to install a failed candidate, Barack Obama, I think that will spell the end of the "democractic" party as we know it.

One can hope so. What I would not want to see is people's disgust and anger to fade in the face of discouragement and things just go along as usual. IF (big if because Hillary is still very much in this race) the party hijacks the nomination for BO, I hope there will be an organized national effort to reform the Dem. Party.

[PhillyGuy1]

And by the way, these so-called Democratic leaders need to stop treating Hillary like she's some sort of "employee" of theirs. Hillary has the votes. She has clout. She can make or break the election for the Democrats.

That is an excellent point. They need her to win the general election. The pip squeak can't win it on his own.
Why not choose the candidate who can win it on her own, Hillary Clinton.


PhillyGuy1

[hipelayne]

I sent the following response to the author and Pelosi.


Great letter - and I like how you ended with "Kind Regards!" LOVE IT!

Anyway, Nancy should hold up a bit here.... I took this quote from the article:

Pelosi, who will serve as chair of the convention, has largely stayed on the sidelines during her party's prolonged primary race. But the House Speaker has said Democratic superdelegates should not overturn the pledged delegate winner, and has warned of irreparable harm if they do so. Barack Obama officially won the majority of pledged delegates in last Tuesday's primary contests, though it's been clear for several weeks Clinton could not overtake him in that category.

Wasn't she saying a few weeks ago when it looked like supers were going to decide the nominee, that the popular vote should be the one honored or am I dreaming this? There's been so much crap spewing from that woman and her co-hort Dean that my head is spinning! :cool::eek::rolleyes::confused::(:):mad::p:D

[tcbwriter]

Let's not just rage over her Pelosi's comments - make your voices heard!



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Email Nancy Pelosi at: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov (AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov)


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[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

HILLARY CLINTON > NANCY PELOSI

Hillary is a fighter for the people Nancy Pelosi is an elitist from San Francisco oh my god...

[tcbwriter]

I hope those who live in Pelosi's state are prepared to vote her out of office when she is up for re-election.
Would love to - however she is a Representative in Congress not a Senator. The only people who can vote her out are those who live in her congressional district and most of those people are Obama supporters. Remember Randi Rhodes disgusting comments? Those were made in San Francisco, Nancy Pelosi's district.

The ironic thing is that Cindy Sheehan is running against Nancy Pelosi . . .

[Gerry2008]

I wote her as well, and I am from California, 2 hours from SF, and I will work tirelessly to get here unelected if that is what it takes.

Bravo Cooney - well said.

I think millions of others are feeling the same way. If the DNC is "successful" in its bid to install a failed candidate, Barack Obama, I think that will spell the end of the "democractic" party as we know it.

I'm sorry to report that I have already seen the end of the "democratic" party as we know it.

And by the way - exactly what is Ms. Pelosi intending to "step-in" - oh wait I think I know.

[Tea toaD]

Let's not just rage over her Pelosi's comments - make your voices heard!



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Thanks for all these addresses:)

[Amanda2489]

These are a couple of comments from that article that are just laughable to me

For every HRC supporter that says they will not support Obama, there are at least five people who would not support HRC if she is allowed to bully her way to the nomination. It's over HRC–now do what's best fo the Democratic Party.

There they go with that Obama math again, if they had five voters to our one then we wouldn't even be in this situation now because they'd have already won this thing by a landslide but here we sit and our candidate has the popular vote which as we "uneducated(from the below comment)" people knows means actual people, actual votes.

Maybe those uneducated that support her soo much should become educated because anyone with half a brain would realize that obama and hilary have pretty much the same agenda for america.

I only wanted to reference part of this comment but didn't want to take it out of context so I highlighted the part I am talking about. Here we are supposedly the uneducated members of society since we support a candidate who has a snow balls chance in hell of winning the GE, whereas their candidate does not, and we also know that delegate counts and superdelegates aren't necessarily reflective of the will of the people, but I guess they have forgotten all about Gore winning the popular vote but we still ended up with GWB as president because of the good old electoral collage. Oh but that's right most of his supporters were what, ten during that election?

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Hillary is going to take this to the convention no matter what Pelosi wants so who cares! :)

[SantaCruzen]

Hillary is going to take this to the convention no matter what Pelosi wants so who cares! :)

I am Independed in a Heart Beat. Essentially, I have been waiting for years for Hillary to run for President... like a many other people.

[kathyfl]

and just who listens to her?........We the people .the majority of the people support Hillary........listen to our voices....or the Democratic Party goes down in flames in Nov....:mad:

[SusanfromPA]

Found This Post At Gretawire:
Congresswoman Pelosi wants to hear from you. You can email her at sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

If you are not a constituent of the 8th district of California, and would like to e-mail Congresswoman Pelosi in her role as Speaker of the House, please email her at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

Just in case anyone would like to email Pelosi.

If anyone does try these addresses please remember (as hard as it may be) be polite. People tend to discount rants and name calling. Take the high road, but be firm!

[Angelica91]

I am Independed in a Heart Beat. Essentially, I have been waiting for years for Hillary to run for President... like a many other people.
I have been waiting for eight years!!!

[bangorgirl]

How should we get them to take us seriously? Should let them know that we ARE dems, and we will vote for big mac if they shove Hillary out! Scan our voter reg cards and email them with our statements. We need to let them know this is not "sore loser syndrome".

[movingtous]

Pelosi might step in?
oooooh, I'm scared.

[Cooney]

Here is some correct information.

Address:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-4965
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.house.gov/pelosi/

Email Congresswoman Pelosi
Congresswoman Pelosi wants to hear from you. You can email her at sf.nancy@mail.house.gov, or by using the form below. Please note that the rules of Congressional courtesy prevent Rep. Pelosi from replying to emails if she cannot determine that you are a constituent, so remember to include your full name, address, and zip code.

If you are not a constituent of the 8th district of California, and would like to e-mail Congresswoman Pelosi in her role as Speaker of the House, please email her at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov or click here for a contact form.

[tcbwriter]

My comments at SFGate - just for starters . . .



Just what, pray tell, do you plan to "step in" and do, Nancy? Who do you think you are? You are the Speaker of the House - NOT the speaker of the people, not the speaker of the Democratic Party and not the queen of the world!

Why, you wouldn't be where you are, i.e. the first woman speaker of the house, were it not for women like Hillary Rodham Clinton who have fought for women's equality their entire lives. And now you want to shut her down, shut down the voices of millions of people who voted for her because it doesn't suit your purposes?

You say you're supposed to stay neutral? When are you going to start doing that? For months, you've been making shameful comment after comment to the media showing your obvious bias toward Obama. Maybe it's time you STOPPED stepping in IT???


I'm just warming up . . . .

[shadow]

I don't know how all this works. But if Pelosi has the power to "end it now" and stop Hillary from going to the convention, then why do they even hold a convention, have super delegates, ect?

I am staying a registered democrat for the sole purpose of voting against these people when they come up for re-election. This is not the democratic party I belonged to all these years.

[tcbwriter]

Here is some correct information.

Address:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-4965
Fax: Not Available
Website: http://www.house.gov/pelosi/

Email Congresswoman Pelosi
Congresswoman Pelosi wants to hear from you. You can email her at sf.nancy@mail.house.gov, or by using the form below. Please note that the rules of Congressional courtesy prevent Rep. Pelosi from replying to emails if she cannot determine that you are a constituent, so remember to include your full name, address, and zip code.

If you are not a constituent of the 8th district of California, and would like to e-mail Congresswoman Pelosi in her role as Speaker of the House, please email her at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov or click here for a contact form.
This address is good for her congressional constituents but not for people writing to her as Speaker of the House.

For that, this address is best: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov (AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov)

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

The Democratic Party is becoming a latte liberal elite party of snobs

[PhillyGuy1]

Would love to - however she is a Representative in Congress not a Senator. The only people who can vote her out are those who live in her congressional district and most of those people are Obama supporters. Remember Randi Rhodes disgusting comments? Those were made in San Francisco, Nancy Pelosi's district.

The ironic thing is that Cindy Sheehan is running against Nancy Pelosi . . .

Cindy Sheehan is running as an independent against Pelosi on a very strong anti-war platform. I wouldn't be against us Hillary supporters giving Sheehan our full support just to get Pelosi out of office.


PhillyGuy1

[RachachaSharon]

She's all bravado and no brains. She wants to blow Hillary out of the water. I'm sick of these idiots. If they didn't want the primaries to go on so long, they should have had them all within a 2-3 week period of time. That would have given BO less time to interfere with voters. The Democratic Party is a mess and a joke.

[CGP]

I don't know how all this works. But if Pelosi has the power to "end it now" and stop Hillary from going to the convention, then why do they even hold a convention, have super delegates, ect?

She doesn't have any such power. That is why her comments are so embarrassingly ridiculous.

[deniseds]

I have been waiting for eight years!!!

A big me too! From the first time I saw her in the interview with Bill and she spoke up loudly that she wasn't going to say home and bake cookies. I loved her and knew she was going to be a strong force in American History. I received my note form Hillary's Rapid Responders and sent Madam Speaker a piece on my mind beginning with. " I certainly hope this means that you are going to support Senator Clinton all the way to the convention". She has every right but you already know that. We will support her all the way. I am ashamed of the DNC and you for not being fair to both candidates. Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate. The facts are there by her winning the swing states. The people are watching but you are not listening. The more negative you get the stronger we get. Hillary Clinton gets my volunteer support and money not the DNC and if she looses then John McCain is the BIG winner and the Democrats loose again.

[user312]

Date: 29May08

The Obama campaign has just announced that Senator Obama's second cousin on his mother's brother's uncle's side, Nancy Pelosi served heroically in the campaign wars, and was one of the first to liberate the delegates to support Senator Obama.:eek:

So Nancy, whatta ya gonna do when they come for you, bad ploy, bad ploy:p

[ssmith]

pelosi??? what a freaking moron!!!!!!!!!!!!

what exactly can she do??

maybe she has a magic wand somewhere???

[Angelica91]

A big me too! From the first time I saw her in the interview with Bill and she spoke up loudly that she wasn't going to say home and bake cookies. I loved her and knew she was going to be a strong force in American History. I received my note form Hillary's Rapid Responders and sent Madam Speaker a piece on my mind beginning with. " I certainly hope this means that you are going to support Senator Clinton all the way to the convention". She has every right but you already know that. We will support her all the way. I am ashamed of the DNC and you for not being fair to both candidates. Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate. The facts are there by her winning the swing states. The people are watching but you are not listening. The more negative you get the stronger we get. Hillary Clinton gets my volunteer support and money not the DNC and if she looses then John McCain is the BIG winner and the Democrats loose again.
I agree with you!:D

[ShyFire]

I wrote to her and gave her a piece of my mind... I didn't tell her that I think she's a royal bitch.. but, hopefully she got the message loud and clear!


Operation Independent is underway! L@@k below!

[Optixmom]

How much more crap can Pelosi dish out? She really should get back to Washington and pretend she is working for the American People again.

Super Delegates were created to make sure that another McGovern tragedy does NOT happen. They can vote anyway they choose. What a farce.

Blah blah blah...don't overturn the pledged delegates...blah blah blah. Well that is what they are supposed to do if the one ahead in pledged delegates is a dufus!

[AlexG]

You know... Pelosi said to not over turn pledged delegates....

From CNN : "... But the House Speaker has said Democratic superdelegates should not overturn the pledged delegate winner, and has warned of irreparable harm if they do so. Barack Obama officially won the majority of pledged delegates in last Tuesday's primary contests, though it's been clear for several weeks Clinton could not overtake him in that category."

Ahem.... If superdelegates should not over turn their pledge delegates, then all the states that Hillary won , all superdelegates MUST give their delegates to her. And, Obama can have superdelegates for the states he won. DON'T MAKE SUPERDELEGATES VOTE BASED ON SUM OF ALL STATE PLEDGED DELEGATES.

Don't contradict yourself, Pelosi. Typical Democrat officials.

[PhillyGuy1]

I found it. The real reason Pelosi does not want this to go to the convention:

February 8, 2008
Pelosi defends Democratic Party's superdelegates
Posted: 08:00 AM ET
“These superdelegates are all part of their state delegation, so that state will speak,” Pelosi said, when its delegation participates in the convention. The superdelegates “work out their preference working with the people of their state,” she added."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/pelosi-defends-democratic-party%E2%80%99s-superdelegates/

In this interview from February she also said she would have no problem with the superdelegates coming together at the convention to choose the nominee. Obviously she has changed her mind on that issue.
But the key point here is how she explained how the choice each state makes for their preferred candidate is made at the convention. If Hillary wins the popular vote when Florida and Michigan are finally included, doesn't that suggest she would win this caucusing of the pledged delegates and superdelegates?
This would be especially true if during this caucusing the full states delegates have to go to one nominee, like it works in the general election. As Bill Clinton said if that method were used in the primaries Hillary would come out way ahead.
Anyone know how it works in the convention? Are the states allowed to give each candidate only a portion of the delegates, or are does it have to be all the delegates go to one candidate for each state?


PhillyGuy1

[PhillyGuy1]

You know... Pelosi said to not over turn pledged delegates....



Ahem.... If superdelegates should not over turn their pledge delegates, then all the states that Hillary won , all superdelegates MUST give their delegates to her. And, Obama can have superdelegates for the states he won. DON'T MAKE SUPERDELEGATES VOTE BASED ON SUM OF ALL STATE PLEDGED DELEGATES.

Don't contradict yourself, Pelosi. Typical Democrat officials.

That's a good point. If that's the way it works then Hillary would get the nomination especially when Michigan and Florida are included.
I think that's the real reason she does not want this to go to the convention.

PhillyGuy1

[diane]

I have a very big problem with what Pelosi said:

"But the House Speaker has said Democratic superdelegates should not overturn the pledged delegate winner, and has warned of irreparable harm if they do so."

I take that as a direct threat against the SuperDelegates. What irreparable harm will come to them exactly? How dare Pelosi utter such atrocities! I will definately be adding my voice to the rest here who have contacted her. I'll remind her of the SuperDels job and also that we live in Democracy and over 17 million people have voted for Hillary and Pelosi should look real hard at that Electoral Map of the GE!

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Ignore Pelosi she can't do anything to stop Hillary from going to Denver

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Hillary is stronger!

[tcbwriter]

Typical Democrat officials.

You know, I'm upset with the way the Democratic leadership is running the party and have already stated I intend to register as an Independent. But republicans purposefully basterdize the name of the Democratic Party just to be nasty. Can we refrain from stooping to their level? Bottom line - Hillary is still a member of the Democratic Party and many of us still support the values the Party is SUPPOSED to stand for.

[johnny51981]

If Nance wants to keep her spot as 2nd in line, she best let the process ride its course.

[Spagpusher]

Ok, here's my email to her ....


Ms. Pelosi ...

I will make this brief, as I know you are a busy woman and I am sure - after your latest revelation that you will "step in" to end this primary battle - you have much mail to sort through at this time. With all due respect, I must ask you if you have noticed the severe drop in DNC donations this election year? Also, have you noticed that the DNC base support is catching the McCain train Donna Brazille told us about in her terse emails to Hillary supporters?

What are you and the other big wigs at the head of the Dem party thinking, anyway? You cannot beg us to support Obama. You cannot bully us to support Obama. Nor can you beg and bully our candidate to get out of this race.

Yes, Ms. Pelosi ... come June 3rd, it will be over. Either Hillary will be the nominee going into the GE thanks to the heads of the party throwing her their overwhelming support (sorry Barack, maybe in a decade or two after you've grown some facial hair and ditched your terrorist supporters), or the remainder of the base jumps that train with the rest of those who have already caught it. You have an easy out to use when throwing her your support so all the Obama kids take the news calmly. It's called the Popular Vote. You do remember how important the popular vote is, don't you? Hillary does have it ... whether you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist or not .... she's the one the core Democrats really want to go into the General Election because she's the one who can actually WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.

It is your call. Support our candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton.... or completely lose the rest of your base. It's really that simple.

Thanks for your time and I hope you have a truly wonderful day! :)

Sincerely,

[Cooney]

Here are the results of Feb 5th for Pelosi's Congressional District. Alot of Hillary support. Not as lopsided as you would think.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/demcd.pdf

Democratic President by Congressional District
8th Congressional District
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton Democratic President by Congressional District
8th Congressional District
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton 75,628 43.3%
Chris Dodd
John Edwards
Mike Gravel
DennisKucinich
BarackObama 93,785 53.7%
Bill Richardson

[ZY123]

Pelosi has no power to "step in". Think about it, what does "step-in" really mean? It's just a general term that gives a negative connotation but means nothing. So why did she say it? It's an attempt to INFLUENCE us and the remaining voters. It's an attempt at forcing us to "unite".

What do the terms "unite" and "step in" have in common? They are attempting to influence us by saying nothing of substance at all. Propaganda!

Here's the real question: What are Pelosi's real motivations? Why is she really supporting Obama? What's he done for her?

[deniseds]

Ok, here's my email to her ....


Ms. Pelosi ...

I will make this brief, as I know you are a busy woman and I am sure - after your latest revelation that you will "step in" to end this primary battle - you have much mail to sort through at this time. With all due respect, I must ask you if you have noticed the severe drop in DNC donations this election year? Also, have you noticed that the DNC base support is catching the McCain train Donna Brazille told us about in her terse emails to Hillary supporters?

What are you and the other big wigs at the head of the Dem party thinking, anyway? You cannot beg us to support Obama. You cannot bully us to support Obama. Nor can you beg and bully our candidate to get out of this race.

Yes, Ms. Pelosi ... come June 3rd, it will be over. Either Hillary will be the nominee going into the GE thanks to the heads of the party throwing her their overwhelming support (sorry Barack, maybe in a decade or two after you've grown some facial hair and ditched your terrorist supporters), or the remainder of the base jumps that train with the rest of those who have already caught it. You have an easy out to use when throwing her your support so all the Obama kids take the news calmly. It's called the Popular Vote. You do remember how important the popular vote is, don't you? Hillary does have it ... whether you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist or not .... she's the one the core Democrats really want to go into the General Election because she's the one who can actually WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.

It is your call. Support our candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton.... or completely lose the rest of your base. It's really that simple.

Thanks for your time and I hope you have a truly wonderful day! :)

Sincerely,

Good Letter. Your speaking for all of us. Thanks.

[hillarymyhero]

All of us will take this to convention along with Hillary. Pelosi is NOTHING for us. For God's sake Pelosi is not our voice, she is not our dictator and she is not our leader at all. Pelosi has NO personality and she is spineless.

Well, again we're nOT here to smear Pelosis like she has had been doing for Hillary under cover.....she is the main person who is equal share holder in damaging dems. in backing up Obama's divisive and polarizing candidacy....

Pelosi has NO right, absolutely NO right to open her mouth against Hillary's supporters wishes and not only Hillary's, but against the wishes of millions of Americans.....

The more she shows her true colors, the more we start fighting for Hillary....

Long live Hillary President 2008.

[Cooney]

Hillary won in Pelosi's district with a large enough vote that when Pelosi runs again we could oust her. I have worked at the Hillary Headquarters in SF and I can tell you there is a big grass roots network for Hillary in San Francisco. Probably even bigger than on Feb 5th. We need someone better than Sheehan to go up against her.

[lanney]

The Eighth District includes most of the City of San Francisco including Golden Gate Park, Fisherman's Wharf, Chinatown, and many of the diverse neighborhoods that make San Francisco a vibrant and prosperous community.
plus add marine county.

[Bacio83]

I'll stick my foot out to trip her... who's with me :) :p

[shenanigans]

sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

This is an alternative email address if anyone wants to use it for Nancy Pelosi.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Nancy Pelosi think Pledged Delegate is more imporant than Popular Vote... that is awful!

[trooper]

This woman is SO IN LOVE WITH HER OWN POWER....she can't stand it that Hillary gets so much love. Pelosi is one of the biggest down falls of the new DNC. She gets no respect from me and she wants to be one of the good old boys. It is more important to her that she throw her weight around and bully people than to stick up for what is RIGHT for the Democratic people. I don't know how these people will be able to look Hillary in the face if she has to go back to the senate, they are nothing but a bunch of back=stabbers and they all need to be voted out of office for what they have done to the Clintons.

[Amanda2489]

Maybe BO has offered her the VP, then she'd be even higher in command and we all know how she'd love that power trip. But we all know that ticket would never win, well for that matter no ticket with BO on top can win.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

an Obama/Pelosi ticket would be a disaster LMAO

[kyforhillary]

How inappropriate the email address: American Voices. I guess she'll have to hear a few more.

[lanney]

an Obama/Pelosi ticket would be a disaster LMAO
Her chinese business connection will come out from everywhere.

[shadow]

many of us still support the values the Party is SUPPOSED to stand for.

Sure, when the party decides to go back to it's roots and not this socialist/marxist/dictatorship they have going now.

[Molly]

I sent her a little note! Where was miss Nancy when the party leaders were telling Hillary to get out - or obama BLOCKED RE-VOTES IN FL & MI - or the obama group sent the LIE to the press on the RFK "Story"????

How dare she think she can control the election!

[Karen Keefe]

and please have a nice trip back into oblivion. The cocoon-like world of the DNC, party "elite" and backroom corruption in Chicago--IL--DC, all for fleeting money, fame and power, meet the American people.

[shadow]

Not feeling well so forgive me for not backtracking to quote the person who said it,,,but somebody mentioned Nancy being the "highest ranking woman", and possibly jealous of Hillary, and not wanting "another woman have a higher position". That seems to make a lot of sense.

[CGP]

Not feeling well so forgive me for not backtracking to quote the person who said it,,,but somebody mentioned Nancy being the "highest ranking woman", and possibly jealous of Hillary, and not wanting "another woman have a higher position". That seems to make a lot of sense.

Yes, she does not want her "status" as the "highest ranking" woman in the Democratic Party lowered by a female president! How sad. So, she is siding with a fraud. What class.

[Linda C]

Speaker Pelosi: Begone you have no power here.


This primary season is threatening how the democrats do business.I am not sure if they are more for Barak or more for the way they always do business. Of course that means another loss in the general election.

Definiton of insanity: doing things the same way and expecting a different result.

[Tea toaD]

She's already weilding her gavel and she's not even at the convention. Practicing maybe?:eek:

[LarryMac]

I sent this to her...

I was proud to see you make Speaker of the House. I have supported women's rights since the '70's when my independent newspaper supported NOW and the Equal Rights amendment. Now it is your turn to support the notion of uniting the party behind a woman president. Your state voted for Hillary Clinton and you have more than enough reason to support her as well.

From the perspective of most Hillary Clinton supporters, Senator Obama is an inexperienced junior senator who will do more to tear the Democratic party apart than to unite it. If his campaign's caucus intimidation and fraud, efforts to thwart new primaries in Michigan and Florida, shady and corrupt past and highly liberal agenda allows him to gain the nomination, there will be a blacklash like none seen since Teddy Roosevelt. I personally will start a Hillary Clinton Write-in campaign if he is nominated and many other Hillary Clinton supporters will either stay at home or vote for McCain.

We are still good Democrats, we just will not vote for a man responsible for so much political corruption and who has such a shady past. Unlike the mainstream media who is not yet doing its job, we realize that Senator Obama will be swift-boated after he is nominated and possibly even indicted on the Rezco issue. The Republicans are not above waiting until the nomination decision makes it too late for us to win.

We write in Hillary Clinton, stay at home or vote for McCain, not because we are sore losers, but because Hillary Clinton supporters are centrists or just left of center and cannot possibly vote for a man such as Obama who will do a lot more harm to this country than Senator McCain.

Wishful thinking may lead some super delegates to think we will come home, but we will not. I have not voted for a Republican since Nixon, and you know how that turned out, so don't make me support one now.

[name]
U.S. Army Retired
Raleigh, North Carolina

[Donald]

The money we doante( or used to) pays for the Convention. The Convention is not a party for the chosen one. I think we should all demand the DNC cancel the convention if it is going to be used as a party and not its original intent...to choose a nominee.

DNC...I want all my money back.. God, I wish there was a class action lawsuit for disgruntled supporters.

[freespirit]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/29/pelosi-prepared-to-step-in-to-end-race

Well my byline in the thread title was clearly a sarcastic take on Pelosi's latest diatribe...

I think Pelosi and all her DNC pals are doing Obama a great disservice by saying things this like this, if it is truly their wish for to be the nominee. And this is because the more people like her make outrageous and absurd statements, the more defiant and motivated HC supporters become to ensure Hillary fights all the way to the convention!!! Nancy Pelosi has clearly overstepped the mark, yet again, acting as though she alone has the power to decide the nominee. She doesn't. Last time I checked the DNC nomination rules didn't list that Ms. Pelosi decides who wins! Who does she think she is? It's abundantly clear she is a massive Obama backer and dislikes Clinton. Fine, good for her, but she's forgotten one thing - voters decide elections. And this time will be no different.

Shame on her. Truly.

Please note - this thread is not to be a "trash Pelosi" thread. Focus on the reasons why her statements are ill-advised and destructive to the Democratic party and why such comments do not help her candidate, Obama, AT ALL!

You are right about her making supporters of HRC more determined. The longer they keep up this back-stabbing attempts to maneuver the process to advantage BO, the more we are filled with the quiet outrage and resolve that will help us prevail. Pelosi proved that she did not have the power she thought she did shortly after she was installed as speaker. If I'm not mistaken, she supported someone other than Hoyer as majority leader. Can't remember who she wanted, but whoever it was, he lost. Since assuming the Speakership, her promises have proven to be empty, and her big talk has been just that - talk.

I truely believe that the Dem Party will never be the same after this race. Just the thought of party leaders and DNC failing to come to HRC's defense after all she was subjected to makes me ill. I have more regard for almost any Republican I can think of than I do for Dean, Pelosi, Judas, Pretty-boy Edwards, Reid, Leahy, Kerry, and yes, Kennedy. Republicans, at least, have the courage and intelligence to try to protect their own. I've decided to remove myself from this party regardless of the outcome of the primary. I do not form personal relationships with cowardly liars and back-stabbers, and I see no reason to be associated with their likes in political affiliation either.

[deniseds]

I sent this to her...

Good letter LarryMac. I agree. Hopefully she will listen to us. Nice to see someone else on this forum from Raleigh.

[Wyoming Dem]

The money we doante( or used to) pays for the Convention. The Convention is not a party for the chosen one. I think we should all demand the DNC cancel the convention if it is going to be used as a party and not its original intent...to choose a nominee.

DNC...I want all my money back.. God, I wish there was a class action lawsuit for disgruntled supporters.
Donald, A lot of the voters in FLorida demanded their donations back from the DNC and the DNC DID return their money.

[carmaken]

How could she forget so soon that she herself broke one of the final glass ceilings for women just 2 years ago. Her actions have been pretty traitorous. She, as Speaker of the House, should have at least stayed out of this until the nominee is decided. What would have been the harm in this?

I hope the voters in her congressional district send her a loud message come the GE; not the one she wants.

[foxyladi]

i read the article and noted this quote
hillary and her MESSAGE
obama and his APPEAL
well madam speaker my pet poodle has appeal too
but he isnt going to be president
neither is your pet poodle
madam president hillary rodham clinton
THERE THATS MORE LIKE IT:D:D:D:D:D

[SBSJR13]

Pelosi and Dean will be the ones held responsible for the big mess, and until it is done right they are not going to recieve a dime from me.. And if Obama is the nominee they are not going to recieve a dime from me, the Super Delegates have one job and thats to put forth the best candidate for November period!! That has been and always will be Hillary, just look at the numbers vs McCain... I dont care if Obama has run a better campaign or not, it still hasnt equated into him beating McCain like Hillary is.. Their obligation is to put forth the best candidate for November, and they are not doing that.. Now we are going to pay the price by having a candidate who is flawed like Kerry, Gore, Dukaukis and the list goes on.. They couldnt carry the voters to win in November and now the DNC is doing it again.. I am not going to be part of it period!! I advise no one to send money to the DNC campaign for donations..

[tcbwriter]

I sent this to her...
Let me know how I can help with that write-in campaign if it comes to that!!

[VANITY4HILLARY]

U know what I am beginning to have a problem with Hillary now.She need to come out and diss the hell out of these people.They are the ones that put the dnc back on the damn map not freaking vice versa.This is going to far.Hillary need to beg for a press conference with ted,obama and this Pelosi chick with that quite funny rhinoplasty job and call them all out.She know how to belittle these clowns and she needs to

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Does Pelosi think she owns the DNC? LOL

[Dendy]

Does Pelosi think she owns the DNC?
I’M SURE SHE DOES. SHE UPGRATED HER USE OF GOVERMENT PRIVATE JETS ON OUR BACKS, NOW SHE WANTS US TO GO AWAY AND LET HER RUN THE SHOW.
ANYWAY...WHEN IS SHE UP FOR REELECTION? DOES ANYBODY KNOW?

[Peppermint Patty]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/29/pelosi-prepared-to-step-in-to-end-race

Well my byline in the thread title was clearly a sarcastic take on Pelosi's latest diatribe...

I think Pelosi and all her DNC pals are doing Obama a great disservice by saying things this like this, if it is truly their wish for to be the nominee. And this is because the more people like her make outrageous and absurd statements, the more defiant and motivated HC supporters become to ensure Hillary fights all the way to the convention!!! Nancy Pelosi has clearly overstepped the mark, yet again, acting as though she alone has the power to decide the nominee. She doesn't. Last time I checked the DNC nomination rules didn't list that Ms. Pelosi decides who wins! Who does she think she is? It's abundantly clear she is a massive Obama backer and dislikes Clinton. Fine, good for her, but she's forgotten one thing - voters decide elections. And this time will be no different.

Shame on her. Truly.

Please note - this thread is not to be a "trash Pelosi" thread. Focus on the reasons why her statements are ill-advised and destructive to the Democratic party and why such comments do not help her candidate, Obama, AT ALL!


Well apparently Nancy wants to have a one on one smack down with Hillary which is the only way to interpret her "stepping in" at this point!!!

"I will step in," Pelosi told the paper. "Because we cannot take this fight to the convention…It must be over before then."

[Morgan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representati ves


When the Speaker and the President belong to the same party, the Speaker normally plays a less prominent role as the leader of the majority party.—For example, Speaker Dennis Hastert played a very low-key role during the presidency of fellow Republican George W. Bush. On the other hand, when the Speaker and the President belong to opposite parties, the public role and influence of the Speaker tend to increase. The Speaker is the highest-ranking member of the opposition party and is normally the chief public opponent of the President's agenda. Recent examples include Tip O'Neill, who was a vocal opponent of President Ronald Reagan's domestic and defense policies; Newt Gingrich, who fought a bitter battle with President Bill Clinton for control of domestic policy; and Nancy Pelosi, who has clashed with George W. Bush over domestic policy and the Iraq War

[VANITY4HILLARY]

Well apparently Nancy wants to have a one on one smack down with Hillary which is the only way to interpret her "stepping in" at this point!!!



And i so want Hillary to take that "BLANK" out.Why does Hillary sIt and allow this without attacking.is it possible that Hillary can be helping and this all is some sort of plan by them all.

[JamieKuuipo]

I sent the following response to the author and Pelosi.

YOU GO GIRL.
PELOSKI- HAS OPENED HER MOUTH AND INSERTED A FOOT I THINK SHE HAS
LOST THE SUPPORT OF US WOMEN ---- AND SHE NEEDS TO STEP ON HERSELF.

EVERYONE SAYS WE WILL UNITE AND HAVE TO SUPPORT OBAMA, HELLO
WE DONT HAVE TO DO THIS WE CAN SUPPORT MACAIN AND OBAMA WILL
LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION HEY PELOSKI STEP ON THAT

[JamieKuuipo]

And i so want Hillary to take that "BLANK" out.Why does Hillary seat and allow this without attacking.is it possible that Hillary can be helping and this all is some sort of plan by them all.

she has taken this heat from them since Jan-- we have to continue to show
them they are the ones acting like idots bulling hillary will not stop her or us.
We can not resort to there tactics, THEY NEED TO STOP BULLING US OR LOSE THE GE

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

oh my god... Nancy Pelosi the San Francisco elitist thinks she can tell us to sit down and shut up

Does she want us to vote for McCain? :)

[FlaDem]

I think this is just a powerplay tactic by Pelosi, etc. They are running scared, and are grasping at straws. It's almost as if she is admonishing Hillary by wagging her finger at her and saying that if Hillary dares to say that she will take this to the convention Pelosi is going to get her big, bad SDs after her. My pop can beat up your pop. She is not a referee that can "step in" and break up a fight. She should know her place and let the process play itself out as in a true democracy.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Nancy Pelosi is into herself that is all :)

[shadow]

she has taken this heat from them since Jan-- we have to continue to show
them they are the ones acting like idots bulling hillary will not stop her or us.
We can not resort to there tactics, THEY NEED TO STOP BULLING US OR LOSE THE GE

Yes. Hillary supporters act like human beings. That is what makes OB's "threats of riots" so pathetic.

I keep wondering what planet Pelosi and co. are on, because OB has no chance. None. He would have to get ALL the democratic votes and at least some of the republicans. That just is not going to happen.

[xfiles]

The DNC will be in for a rude awakening when they see their party long-time loyalists leave.

They would rather please the young thug voters than those who have been loyal and voted dem for many years.

The party does not care about us as individual voters and so now we don't care about the party!!

[Soaring Eagle]

The democratic party can shove Obama where the sun doesn't shine!

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Ya know, Pelosi said everyone should vote the way their constituents vote. They didn't listen to her then and I doubt they will listen to her now. I think she may be in the middle stages of dementia........Throw the bum out!

[debstew]

Who knows what to believe anymore?? If Obama has superdelegates waiting in the wings why then would Nancy, Harry and Howard want to call the undecided to have them commit ???? You know I don't believe anything this person called Obama says. I guess his payoffs and his threats didn't work with some of them so he has to get his soldiers out.....The three stooges...:eek::eek:

[PhillyGuy1]

I wrote my letter to Pelosi. Here's what I wrote:

The American people decide who their president should be.

I was very disappointed with your charge that you would step in to prevent Hillary from getting the nomination by stopping her from taking it to the convention if necessary.
Keep in mind this one overwhelmingly important fact:

More than 50% of the democratic voters DO NOT want Barack Obama as the democratic nominee.

This shows that Obama is FAR from getting some mandate from democrats that he should represent them in the November election.
There are millions of Hillary supporters out there who believe she should be the nominee. So strong is that belief that a great deal of us will choose to vote for John McCain rather than Obama.
There is only one way you could prevent this mass defection. Allow the nomination process to completely run its course, even going to the convention if necessary. If Obama can't win it there then he does not deserve to be the nominee. If Hillary can not, then she doesn't deserve to be.
But you must let the MAJORITY of the democratic voters know this was a completely fair process where each candidate had the FULL opportunity to win the nomination.



PhillyGuy1

[PuppyDogMom]

Well, this will warm your hearts ... NOT ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/us/politics/30dems.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[Mrsawd]

I believe they will end up having to rename this Party


If they nominate Obama the new name should be the scumbags of the goverment Party!

[SusanfromPA]

It may seem like it's all over, but "presumptive" is not a done deal and the number of pledged delegates needed will not be reached by either candidate so unless one of them drops out there is nothing OFFICIAL until August.
They can declare all they want but the SD's vote in August. We will know a lot more about Obama by then.

[Alex01]

I called and my husband sent an email. He was incensed, and this is a man who stays calm through thick and thin. When I first called, a young man answered and I said that there was an article on CNN that had to be a hoax or a joke, because surely Nancy Pelosi did not think she could thwart the democratic process. He sent me to her voice mail. I definitely tried to keep it civil, but it was most difficult.:mad:

I got the idea a little later in the day that she was sending out a feeler. A completely bizarro one, like "Oh, I'm going to take away your right to use the telephone for a few months, no biggie." But it is a biggie, sweetie. You're taking away our right to valid representation, and we hold that sacred.

You're about to find out how sacred.

[SugnSpicesmom]

Well, I just fired off a nice, long note to dumbsh-t Pelosi. Here's what it said:

Dear House Speaker Pelosi,

I am writing in reference to your statement today in regards to the Democratic nominee race - "I will step in,"....."Because we cannot take this fight to the convention. It must be over before then."

I am absolutely floored that you would make such a statement when history has shown that more than once a fight for the nominee race has gone to the convention - and with a much less convincing argument than what Sen. Clinton has. I am absolutely floored that you feel you have the power to silence the voices of millions of voters. I am absolutely floored that you would attempt to intervene in the democratic process. Please do not humiliate yourself by trying to justify your comment and say that you want what is best for "the Party."

"The Party" has made a mockery of itself, embarassing its members, attempting to leave millions of voters without a voice in order to force an inexperienced, unvetted, unchallenged, and blatant racist candidate down their throats, by allowing the media in almost every form to insult, obiliterate, and attack one of its own, and actually assist the media in doing it. I don't know how Howard Dean or other members of the DNC can even hold their heads up, and believe me, as voters we will remember everything that has gone on in this "democratic" process.

No, I'm not a sore Clinton loser as Donna Brazille and others have indicated. I am a pissed-off, life-long Democrat that is disgusted with the way this Party has functioned repeatedly over the past several years. This campaign year has been the worst and it is going to cost the Democrats the White House. Do you all honestly believe that Sen. Obama is going to win against Sen. McCain in the General Election? You're delusional - every one of you. The GOP is frothing at the mouth to get at Sen. Obama. They will obiliterate him in ways that aren't even imaginable. They have so much ammunition it's unbelievable. The latest is now on video tape - Father Pfleger standing at the pulpit of Sen. Obama's church spewing more racial hatred towards white people and specifically Sen. Clinton. Don't believe me? Go here and click on the video link posted:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=13641

Do you think the GOP and McCain are going to let this slide and not call Sen. Obama out AGAIN on his questionable alliances and friendships? This is just one of the many issues that are going to face Sen. Obama if the DNC is stupid enough to select him as the Democratic nominee. And maybe that's what all of you want. Maybe you want to send the "black guy" packing. Maybe you're all a bunch of racists yourselves and you want to see Sen. Obama obiliterated and sent back to Chicago never to be heard from again. That's an interesting thought and one that is explored in this op-ed piece: http://www.themouthpiece.org/opinions/aracistdnc.html

Yes, it's my piece and I'm proud of it. I think I might have actually nailed the problem right on the head in that piece.

Go ahead, put Sen. Obama's name on the ballot. He has offended millions of people and will never get their votes. You know them right? The bitter, gun-toting, religious people? The bitter feminists? The gays and lesbians? The blue collar workers? The Reagan-Democrats? The women? The blacks that he has stepped over to get where he wanted to be? The whites he hates? All of them - every one of them - he is going to lose. They aren't going to "come home" and vote for him. They're pissed and they recognize the danger of voting for someone who has terrorist ties, who is a racist in its purest form, who has nothing but contempt for the common man, who is an elitest, and who sat in a church for more than 20 years listening to hateful, vial, disgusting comments disguised as "black theology."

So go ahead, Speaker Pelosi. Step in and put this nightmare to bed. You don't really have the power to do it. Dean doesn't have the power to do it. Reid doesn't have the power to do it. But, if you want to try go ahead. Put Sen. Obama's name on the ballot and watch the Democrats lose the White House again because it will. If that's a chance you want to take, well that's up to you. Just remember that you, Reid, Dean and the DNC are going to be held responsible for what happens to this country. And I can assure you, if Sen. Obama somehow manages to gain control of this country as President, you will be horrifically sorry for what you have done. Think about that when you go to bed tonight, when you try to intervene and stop the democratic process, and when you shove him down America's throats. I doubt you'll sleep very well.

V/R,
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[Morgan]

I’M SURE SHE DOES. SHE UPGRATED HER USE OF GOVERMENT PRIVATE JETS ON OUR BACKS, NOW SHE WANTS US TO GO AWAY AND LET HER RUN THE SHOW.
ANYWAY...WHEN IS SHE UP FOR REELECTION? DOES ANYBODY KNOW?

I'd forgot about that. The poor baby has to fly non stop. She could use her broom.

[yaelbelle]

Updated Nancy Pelosi contact info:

http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

does she want McCain to be president?

[Angelica91]

It seems all the party wants McCain to be President!:(
Everytime I saw that woman I become sad!:(

[EH]

What Nancy Pelosigalore STILL doesn't understand is that while the DNC is arrogant enough to choose their candidate, WE go to the polls in November...and our vote isn't for their freak show!

[eyedoc333]

I just had a really strange thought.

Do you think this is some sort of "reverse psychology", where these statements are being made to push Hillary out in order to fire up her supporters even further? Think about it. If no one said anything, it would be much quieter, wouldn't it? Instead, there is a big push-back from Hillary's supporters.

Well, regardless of the motivation, we are fired up!

[Johnf]

I just had a really strange thought.

Do you think this is some sort of "reverse psychology", where these statements are being made to push Hillary out in order to fire up her supporters even further? Think about it. If no one said anything, it would be much quieter, wouldn't it? Instead, there is a big push-back from Hillary's supporters.

Well, regardless of the motivation, we are fired up!


If it were much quieter, no one would be motivated to change anything. No reverse psychology. This is a result of some backroom deals between Obama and Pelosi IMO, and this is being done to make Hillary supporters believe they don't have a chance and become less driven, lose hope and focus and quit.

Stay focused and win. Get caught up in the Pelosi and media garbage, lose. I choose to stay focused and stand up for our rights and fight even harder and that's what Pelosi hopes doesn't happen. Her psychology is failing. She's trying to strong arm people here. She's using threats. Well, people are showing her what they think of her threats and Pelosi.

A Hillary victory now would mean a Pelosi loss.....Pelosi has been saying damaging things about Hillary and her supporters and she knows Hillary is very close to winning, it's about keeping Pelosi's job now, not just Obama's.

[HILLARYCLINTONRULES]

Pelosi is clearly a terrible politician

[Johnf]

The only letter I would write her; and it would be short and sweet, to the point.

To Ms. Pelosi

You must really be afraid of losing your job now...you went too far - how much Money, what job did Obama promise you? I can see you're in it for yourself - a Hillary win means a Pelosi loss. So I can see why you're attacking Hillary & protecting Obama & your own interests but you're selling out the rest of America.

Signed.....the People of America who don't like the backroom politics, corruption and lies

[Eddie3dfx]

Nancy Botoxo Pelosi should step down immediately.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/nancy_pelosi.jpg

[Angelica91]

She's very ugly!
And...who is the most beautiful woman???
http://j.gravelle.us/Portals/0/PelosiClinton.jpg
http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/clintonpelosi_gi2.jpg

[EH]

Nancy Botoxo Pelosi should step down immediately.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/nancy_pelosi.jpg


I'm having trouble digesting lunch after seeing that pic! Man she is FUGLY!

[Angelica91]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01E3fMw3qBg98/610x.jpg
http://www.hillarysupportnetwork.org/images/pelosi.jpg
THAT WOMAN IS SOOOO FALSE!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[hipelayne]

I feel Nancy Pelosi is trying to use her current position to over shadow Hillary's strength. It's very clear that she wants Hillary out of the race so they can work on Obama's GE appeal and try to "heal the party". In my view, she is also trying to prove she is the stronger female in this situation. She doen't see that she would be stepping on Hillary supporter's backs and pushing her candidate of choice down our throats. It's party first, second and always with her and the rest:mad:

It seems to me that if they really had the best interests of the party at heart they would have sat back and let the election take its course! They wouldn't be out there bullying and cajoling Senator Clinton and making themselves, the Democratic Party and the country look stupid in the eyes of the rest of the world! I'm afraid that Ms. Pelosi's behavior is going to backfire, not only on her but on women in general because she is acting like one of the b****s that a lot of people (males in particular) think that women with power are - no matter how untrue it is! Between them, Reid, Dean, Pelosi and BO have turned back the clock on race, womens rights and democracy as a whole! My daughter is expecting my first granddaughter on August 27 - I would love to be able to tell her when she's 18 going to the voting booth for the first time, that she was born in the most important month in history when Senator Hillary Clinton became the first ever female nominee for President of the United States. However, it seems like I will be telling her that she was born in the month that many Americans would rather forget!

[PhillyGuy1]

Nancy Botoxo Pelosi should step down immediately.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/nancy_pelosi.jpg

With that rhinoplasty job she looks like an old Michael Jackson.

PhillGuy1

[PhillyGuy1]

Here are the results of Feb 5th for Pelosi's Congressional District. Alot of Hillary support. Not as lopsided as you would think.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/demcd.pdf

Democratic President by Congressional District
8th Congressional District
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton Democratic President by Congressional District
8th Congressional District
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton 75,628 43.3%
Chris Dodd
John Edwards
Mike Gravel
DennisKucinich
BarackObama 93,785 53.7%
Bill Richardson



Thanks for that info. We should send this to the Clinton campaign. They must have a list of Clinton supporters in Pelosi's district. Tell them to get the word out, vote for Golub and against Pelosi.
At this late date it might not be enough to get Pelosi thrown out, but it might be enough to send a message that we Clinton supporters will not be silenced.
Or maybe we could do a mass mailing to every household in Pelosi's district. Include in it those absurd undemocratic statement's of Pelosi. Tell them to vote against the member of congress who is against the democratic process.


PhillyGuy1

[Mrs L]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/delegate-tracker.htm#uslPageReturn

I sure could use some help on this page.

[PhillyGuy1]

Thanks for that info. We should send this to the Clinton campaign. They must have a list of Clinton supporters in Pelosi's district. Tell them to get the word out, vote for Golub and against Pelosi.
At this late date it might not be enough to get Pelosi thrown out, but it might be enough to send a message that we Clinton supporters will not be silenced.
Or maybe we could do a mass mailing to every household in Pelosi's district. Include in it those absurd undemocratic statement's of Pelosi. Tell them to vote against the member of congress who is against the democratic process.


This might result in a backlash against the Clinton campaign if conducted by them. So this needs to be a completely grassroots operation.
This page gives the districts population as about 600,000:

California's 8th congressional district.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California's_8th_congressional_district

Let's say the number of households is a third or a quarter of that, call it 200,000.
To send these notices to arrive by Tuesday, June 3rd they would have to be done by overnight mail which would be $12.60 each by US Postal Service. Too expensive for a grassroots operation.
One possibility might be to have the word sent out on Hillary support forums that if you are in Pelosi's district or nearby districts to volunteer to deliver these notices to households in her district. We could have a list of the households in her district and each volunteer be assigned a certain number of households that are closest to where the volunteer lives.
Another possibility would be to do volunteer phone banking to all of the households in her district.
Some voters might be hesitant to change their vote based on this one issue but frankly Pelosi has done such a lousy job as Speaker with the approval rating of Congress down to only 13% now that she deserves to be replaced on her performance alone.


PhillyGuy1