View Full Version : (June 2, 2008): Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan take on 'whitey' (NoQuarter)
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 09:56 AM
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http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/
Note by Joey: Don't go to their website yet. Their admin told me that the server is over loaded. She asked that we don't refresh the page when the website doesn't load. Wait a few minutes and click again.
In the mean time: Read the full story below.
Eddie3dfx
06-02-2008, 09:57 AM
Obama & his wife are as anti-american/anti-white as it gets.
xfiles
06-02-2008, 09:58 AM
The site is super busy and I can't get past the first page. What does Larry say specifically? He heard the tape?
Obama & his wife are as anti-american/anti-white as it gets.
Eddie3dfx
06-02-2008, 09:59 AM
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:52 am
I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.
There is more.. I will post when I can get back on.
Alex01
06-02-2008, 10:00 AM
The site is super busy and I can't get past the first page. What does Larry say specifically? He heard the tape?
I can't even get to the first page!:eek:
Ohio mom
06-02-2008, 10:00 AM
so there is actually a real tape????:eek::eek:
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 10:00 AM
Take On Whitey
By Larry Johnson on June 2, 2008 at 7:43 AM in Current Affairs
I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.
Barack may have quit his church but his religious problems are not over. Barack Obama has a Nation of Islam problem that will receive more attention in the coming days. Before Barack came on the scene, THE MAN in his political district was Louis Farrakhan. No one could take Alice Palmer’s seat without Farrakhan’s blessing. No one. I do not fault Barack Obama for seeking out the blessing of Farrakhan, but the story of what was done behind the scenes to get rid of Barack’s predecessor—Alice Palmer—has not been told. A knowledgeable source tells me that Tony Rezko played a direct role in this feat. And Rezko has been tight with Farrakhan.
It also should come as no surprise that Barack hired two members of the Nation of Islam to work on his staff—Jennifer Mason and Cynthia K. Miller. (And no, I am not merely recycling info initially reported by Debbie Schlussel. I have two independent Chicago sources for this info.) If Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger had kept their yaps buttoned none of this would mean much. But the fact that both men have been—until scrubbed from the website in recent weeks—listed as spiritual advisors to Barack Obama and also are very close to Louis Farrakhan, forces the question about Barack’s faith and beliefs.
In probing those matters we begin to understand that the Nation of Islam has been a critical component of Barack Obama’s base of support. And, I am told, Louis Farrakhan has been careful to use Tony Rezko as the intermediary in his relationship with Barack. This is not guilt by association, this is guilt because of actual relationship. Farrakhan, Wright, and Pfleger are each on tape in various settings spewing the most vile racists garbage in the guise of preaching. Barack Obama, up to this point, has tried to pretend he had no idea that these men had these thoughts or said these things.
NONSENSE!! He knew and he knows. And the gig will be up when the Michelle tape hits the airwaves. One source described how this tape was acquired. Let’s just say that one of the republican candidates who is no longer in the race, but had a dandy oppo research capability, uncovered this gem. If Republican poohbahs have their way the tape will remain on ice until October. But when it comes out, Barack will be permanently branded with the Nation of Islam. That’s not a winning platform in November. And Barack’s bundlers understand this threat. I also have learned some major financial backers are asking the Barack team about the tape and are being stonewalled. It is a wild card in the political campaign that has not yet played out.
mjoynaples
06-02-2008, 10:01 AM
is this on tv or need to read? who is reporting it???? pray GOD this is BO's end I am so sick of this man...never want to hear his name again... go away !!!
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 10:01 AM
The site is super busy and I can't get past the first page. What does Larry say specifically? He heard the tape?
Yeah, Larry appologizes for the slow site... they've added server after server and it's hard to keep up with the traffic apparently.... yesterday there were 50k peeks there.
NOW, the big thing will be WHO WILL SHOW and WHEN we see this actual tape! I firmly believe it exists because it's not unbelievable at all... I saw some gossip that Fox will be the one breaking the story at some point.... one mentioned this evening.....but I'll believe it when I see it.
I think Larry (who has a great reputation) is putting a lot on the line talking about this when it is being held back from the public....
xfiles
06-02-2008, 10:05 AM
Doesn't he have specific details of what was said? Did he hear the tape or just "about" it and what was said generically?
Take On Whitey
By Larry Johnson on June 2, 2008 at 7:43 AM in Current Affairs
I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.
Barack may have quit his church but his religious problems are not over. Barack Obama has a Nation of Islam problem that will receive more attention in the coming days. Before Barack came on the scene, THE MAN in his political district was Louis Farrakhan. No one could take Alice Palmer’s seat without Farrakhan’s blessing. No one. I do not fault Barack Obama for seeking out the blessing of Farrakhan, but the story of what was done behind the scenes to get rid of Barack’s predecessor—Alice Palmer—has not been told. A knowledgeable source tells me that Tony Rezko played a direct role in this feat. And Rezko has been tight with Farrakhan.
It also should come as no surprise that Barack hired two members of the Nation of Islam to work on his staff—Jennifer Mason and Cynthia K. Miller. (And no, I am not merely recycling info initially reported by Debbie Schlussel. I have two independent Chicago sources for this info.) If Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger had kept their yaps buttoned none of this would mean much. But the fact that both men have been—until scrubbed from the website in recent weeks—listed as spiritual advisors to Barack Obama and also are very close to Louis Farrakhan, forces the question about Barack’s faith and beliefs.
In probing those matters we begin to understand that the Nation of Islam has been a critical component of Barack Obama’s base of support. And, I am told, Louis Farrakhan has been careful to use Tony Rezko as the intermediary in his relationship with Barack. This is not guilt by association, this is guilt because of actual relationship. Farrakhan, Wright, and Pfleger are each on tape in various settings spewing the most vile racists garbage in the guise of preaching. Barack Obama, up to this point, has tried to pretend he had no idea that these men had these thoughts or said these things.
NONSENSE!! He knew and he knows. And the gig will be up when the Michelle tape hits the airwaves. One source described how this tape was acquired. Let’s just say that one of the republican candidates who is no longer in the race, but had a dandy oppo research capability, uncovered this gem. If Republican poohbahs have their way the tape will remain on ice until October. But when it comes out, Barack will be permanently branded with the Nation of Islam. That’s not a winning platform in November. And Barack’s bundlers understand this threat. I also have learned some major financial backers are asking the Barack team about the tape and are being stonewalled. It is a wild card in the political campaign that has not yet played out.
ShyFire
06-02-2008, 10:07 AM
I can't get on the site, either! Dang!
Sandy in PA
06-02-2008, 10:08 AM
Looks like Obama will soon announce that he is divorcing Michelle.....
Eddie3dfx
06-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Larry never heard the tape.
But obama is...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2332929267_620dae4a43.jpg?v=0
endodoc79
06-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Has anyone been in contact with Alice Palmer? I heard she campaigned with Chelsea Clinton in Indiana. I thought there must of been some pretty bad blood between her and BO for that to happen. There are other people who know the truth - please write your elected officials.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 10:10 AM
Looks like Obama will soon announce that he is divorcing Michelle.....
He might be too busy running from the bus to divorce her if this tape/bus comes out and chases after him.... LOL
The kicker would be to see him on this tape IN THE CHURCH at the time all of this was going on.... LOL AMEN SISTAH
check out no quarter right now
Linky-dink, please?:o
Sandy in PA
06-02-2008, 10:12 AM
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#more-2847
Good luck getting on, though. The site is a little busy!
Mrs L
06-02-2008, 10:13 AM
Yeah, Larry appologizes for the slow site... they've added server after server and it's hard to keep up with the traffic apparently.... yesterday there were 50k peeks there.
NOW, the big thing will be WHO WILL SHOW and WHEN we see this actual tape! I firmly believe it exists because it's not unbelievable at all... I saw some gossip that Fox will be the one breaking the story at some point.... one mentioned this evening.....but I'll believe it when I see it.
I think Larry (who has a great reputation) is putting a lot on the line talking about this when it is being held back from the public....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I believe there is a tape, but I am so worried that the owner will be paid off.
Oh dear I am so worried we need it RIGHT NOW!
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 10:15 AM
guys this so creepy!!!! :(
mjoynaples
06-02-2008, 10:15 AM
oh this has got to get out NOW please whoever has this have mercy on our country... let's at least get the PRESIDENT THAT IS BETTER FOR OUR COUNTRY... come on....
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 10:15 AM
Larry never heard the tape.
But obama is...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2332929267_620dae4a43.jpg?v=0
OH COME ON EDDIE.... I was really in the mood for some Rye toast this morning..... I'm not sure El TurdO looks that good on a piece of white bread... LOL
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#more-2847
Good luck getting on, though. The site is a little busy!
Thanks! x2! :D
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 10:17 AM
I hope the tape is released today!!! :eek:
Eddie3dfx
06-02-2008, 10:18 AM
Scott LOL.
Sorry, had 2 spoonfulls of extra coffee in my protein shake this morning. No Obama toast for me! :eek:
Ijane
06-02-2008, 10:18 AM
I do not fault Barack Obama for seeking out the blessing of Farrakhan, but the story of what was done behind the scenes to get rid of Barack’s predecessor—Alice Palmer—has not been told. A knowledgeable source tells me that Tony Rezko played a direct role in this feat. And Rezko has been tight with Farrakhan.
This is all just to much!!
That Rezko is a trip! I can't wait for someone to get to the bottom of why Rezko is so tightly connected with the black nationalist Chicago leaders. Rezko also contributed to Meeks campaign. What is up with this?! I think he must give to them all because he gets the business contracts in return. I can't wait to find out what he got from Meeks!
This is more excitement then the time I jumped out of an airplane! :eek:
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Take On Whitey
By Larry Johnson on June 2, 2008 at 7:43 AM in Current Affairs
I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.
Barack may have quit his church but his religious problems are not over. Barack Obama has a Nation of Islam problem that will receive more attention in the coming days. Before Barack came on the scene, THE MAN in his political district was Louis Farrakhan. No one could take Alice Palmer’s seat without Farrakhan’s blessing. No one. I do not fault Barack Obama for seeking out the blessing of Farrakhan, but the story of what was done behind the scenes to get rid of Barack’s predecessor—Alice Palmer—has not been told. A knowledgeable source tells me that Tony Rezko played a direct role in this feat. And Rezko has been tight with Farrakhan.
It also should come as no surprise that Barack hired two members of the Nation of Islam to work on his staff—Jennifer Mason and Cynthia K. Miller. (And no, I am not merely recycling info initially reported by Debbie Schlussel. I have two independent Chicago sources for this info.) If Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger had kept their yaps buttoned none of this would mean much. But the fact that both men have been—until scrubbed from the website in recent weeks—listed as spiritual advisors to Barack Obama and also are very close to Louis Farrakhan, forces the question about Barack’s faith and beliefs.
In probing those matters we begin to understand that the Nation of Islam has been a critical component of Barack Obama’s base of support. And, I am told, Louis Farrakhan has been careful to use Tony Rezko as the intermediary in his relationship with Barack. This is not guilt by association, this is guilt because of actual relationship. Farrakhan, Wright, and Pfleger are each on tape in various settings spewing the most vile racists garbage in the guise of preaching. Barack Obama, up to this point, has tried to pretend he had no idea that these men had these thoughts or said these things.
NONSENSE!! He knew and he knows. And the gig will be up when the Michelle tape hits the airwaves. One source described how this tape was acquired. Let’s just say that one of the republican candidates who is no longer in the race, but had a dandy oppo research capability, uncovered this gem. If Republican poohbahs have their way the tape will remain on ice until October. But when it comes out, Barack will be permanently branded with the Nation of Islam. That’s not a winning platform in November. And Barack’s bundlers understand this threat. I also have learned some major financial backers are asking the Barack team about the tape and are being stonewalled. It is a wild card in the political campaign that has not yet played out.
I think the connections that Larry makes between Obama and the Nation of Islam are as important as the actual Michelle tape. There is no way the Democrats can seriously field a candidate for President with this background of radicalism.
xfiles
06-02-2008, 10:20 AM
OK, here is the deal.
We need to get someone from the DNC and the media to ask Obama if this took place (or Michelle if Obama is clueless).
IF they deny it and it comes out later, he is sunk.
If he is asked the question now, maybe it'll be enough for SD's to switch their votes to Hillary for the nomination!
Blog this everywhere, send to media, SD's, DNC, friends, etc.!!
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 10:22 AM
Yes we need to get the info out right now
Alex01
06-02-2008, 10:23 AM
I know it would be a great thing to have, but I'm betting Senator Clinton getting the nomination nod doesn't depend on people seeing this tape. It would help, but I doubt it's a make-or-break situation.
Let's keep on writing and calling and supporting and encouraging - look where those things have gotten us so far - Hillary is winning!:)
Just sayin' don't put all your eggs in the "Whitey basket.":cool:
Calico
06-02-2008, 10:23 AM
This tape needs to be released now. If FOX has it and would do it now, their ratings would skyrocket!
Ijane
06-02-2008, 10:25 AM
We need to get someone from the DNC and the media to ask Obama if this took place (or Michelle if Obama is clueless).
Absolutely!! It would be WILDLY irresponsible if the DNC has heard about the tape and let this obama have the nomination anyway!!!
Ijane
06-02-2008, 10:26 AM
Surely there are people on Clinton's campaign that are talking to the DNC about this! If not, maybe Lanny Davis should be emailed. He's very responsive!!
Brooke
06-02-2008, 10:27 AM
I can't get on to the site either. We do need this to get out though, today!
Calico
06-02-2008, 10:27 AM
The clock is ticking. Let's get the message out about this tape.
BooskerD
06-02-2008, 10:27 AM
This tape needs to be released now. If FOX has it and would do it now, their ratings would skyrocket!
Problem is, the republicans have it. They know that Hillary is the real challenge, so they'll most likely wait until the DNC stupidly forges ahead with their chosen candidate- Obama. Then, they'll unleash it. There's no way he can deny his racist ties after this.
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about what "impact" this story may or may not have. If Obama can do anything and get away with it, you can logically conclude his wife can too in the eyes of Obamamedia.
mukunda22
06-02-2008, 10:28 AM
for the Republican Party to hold on to this tape til Oct.
First of all, there are no guarantees that Obama won't win if this is released so late--It needs more time--And BO is a master at making people think he's being swift-boated.
In fact, I got an email from MoveOn about giving money to them to fight the swift boating of BO, and others. With lots of money, they can make people really believe this is a character assassination.
Ok, Repubs know Hillary can beat McCain, but is that any reason to risk such a National Security threat????
C'mon, this tape must be released for the good of the country.
Not to release it is unpatriotic.
Brooke
06-02-2008, 10:30 AM
I prayed to God last night for the truth to come out.
Johnf
06-02-2008, 10:30 AM
It's saying the server cannot be found, has the site been hacked?
BillDemo
06-02-2008, 10:30 AM
No need to visit Larry's site. Everything he posted is posted on this thread.
If you visit his site, you're just going to crash his server. It's slow because there are too many people accessing the site at once. :)
Farrakhan/Obama, huh? Good news... VERY GOOD NEWS!!! Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhee!!!!
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 10:32 AM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I believe there is a tape, but I am so worried that the owner will be paid off.
Oh dear I am so worried we need it RIGHT NOW!
Well the supposed owners are GOP so they've got their own reasons to want this out too...
mooaks
06-02-2008, 10:35 AM
Larry Johnson is a highly creditable former CIA person, that when he says something about source information, I for one believe him to the core. Having such a background cuts through a lot of doubt, especially his knowledge about liablity. This information even though not seen as yet, will sure as hell be news big time and remove any doubt about whether Obama is electable or not.:D:D
Alex01
06-02-2008, 10:38 AM
It is unethical for the Republican Party to hold on to this tape til Oct. First of all, there are no guarantees that Obama won't win if this is released so late--It needs more time--And BO is a master at making. Ok, Repubs know Hillary can beat McCain, but is that any reason to risk such a National Security threat????
C'mon, this tape must be released for the good of the country.
Not to release it is unpatriotic.
Excellent point. I was thinking that yesterday. Anyone who truly loves America would not want this man to be anywhere near the White House, and wouldn't give him even the POSSIBILITY of winning. That's why we do what we do!!:cool:
Ijane
06-02-2008, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about what "impact" this story may or may not have. If Obama can do anything and get away with it, you can logically conclude his wife can too in the eyes of Obamamedia.
I don't Murray. Farrakhan is like the kiss of death! It's one thing for politicians to survive a Farrakhan endorsement but it's a whole other story when that candidate is videoed while WITH him and calling people "whitey". I don't think something like this is recoverable. Not this time.
Edited to add: A candidate or his wife videoed with Farrakhan and actually speaking along the lines of black nationalist ideology.
LucyTN
06-02-2008, 10:40 AM
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about what "impact" this story may or may not have. If Obama can do anything and get away with it, you can logically conclude his wife can too in the eyes of Obamamedia.I could not agree more. Had the situation been reversed and Hillary's preacher had made such hateful comments about black people we would now be asking, Hillary who? The lengths to which they've gone to get this man in office is mind boggling. And the fact that so many are blindly following without doing any reseach on him is horrifying.
xfiles
06-02-2008, 10:41 AM
Let's spell it out for the dumbo media:
Farrakhan given award by Trinity.
Obama/Michelle members of Trinity.
Pfleger enamoured with Farrakhan and Wright.
Pfleger feels comfortable with his recent rant at Trinity.
Why? Because Obama, Michelle, Wright, Farrakhan are part of a racist cabal that has listened to and participated in this type of discourse.
Send this with the info Larry Johnson posted everywhere you can think of.
I have already!!! Get it out there!
DemKR
06-02-2008, 10:41 AM
Page is not working
Linda C
06-02-2008, 10:43 AM
I think there is pressure to release the tape early since not to do so would be a republican political mistake of even larger proportions. Thus the pressure from No Quarter and other sites. Fox news has been giving hints of something for several months and looking like the cat that swallowed the canary.
BTW other than BO's speech giving up the church...Where has BO been lately? and where is MO? I haven't been following the news too much lately, our youngest graduated High School and all of the stuff that goes with it. Is he even campaigning?
Brooke
06-02-2008, 10:45 AM
I think there is pressure to release the tape early since not to do so would be a republican political mistake of even larger proportions. Thus the pressure from No Quarter and other sites. Fox news has been giving hints of something for several months and looking like the cat that swallowed the canary.
BTW other than BO's speech giving up the church...Where has BO been lately? and where is MO? I haven't been following the news too much lately, our youngest graduated High School and all of the stuff that goes with it. Is he even campaigning?
He was in SD yesterday and tomorrow he plans on speaking from St. Paul, MN, site of this year's RNC Convention.
Congrats to your new graduate, Linda!!!
LucyTN
06-02-2008, 10:46 AM
Hope it's okay to post this here. Ted Kennedy will have brain surgery today at Duke University Hospital.
PrincesseJen
06-02-2008, 10:46 AM
Link doesn't work.
Dendy
06-02-2008, 10:46 AM
I’m guessing the only ways to get this thing out is all of us copy the article and send it everywhere we can.
The world has to know we want to see this tape now, before it’s to late.
The republicans will have no choice but to show it, they can’t afford to keep it hidden till October, not with so many people begging for it.
Does anybody have all the media emails?
for the Republican Party to hold on to this tape til Oct.
First of all, there are no guarantees that Obama won't win if this is released so late--It needs more time--And BO is a master at making people think he's being swift-boated.
In fact, I got an email from MoveOn about giving money to them to fight the swift boating of BO, and others. With lots of money, they can make people really believe this is a character assassination.
Ok, Repubs know Hillary can beat McCain, but is that any reason to risk such a National Security threat????
C'mon, this tape must be released for the good of the country.
Not to release it is unpatriotic.
I made this same comment on the No Quarter site (assuming it went thru). I think it's un-American for Repubs to hold this tape until October because there's still a risk that the ignorant, ill-informed, bamboozled voters will elect this racist terrorist into office.
REPUBLICANS: You are COWARDS! We know you fear running against Hillary! Grow some balls, you hypocrites!
Link doesn't work.
Keep trying. The site is overwhelmed. However, someone here posted the article. See the previous page.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 10:53 AM
We can start sending emails to Nancy Pelosi (contact info below) and ask her if she knows about this tape.
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
http://www.speaker.gov/contact
Brooke
06-02-2008, 10:53 AM
FYI guys..
If you google NoQuarter, underneath the link it says the site is overwhelmed with traffic.
This has to be a good sign, everyone. I can't see so many people flooding the site if there's nothing there.
Hope it's okay to post this here. Ted Kennedy will have brain surgery today at Duke University Hospital.
You know, at first I was genuinely sad when I heard about his health travails, and although I wish him well, as I do all my fellow travelers on the planet, my feelings have changed. I heard him say that no way should Hillary be the VP choice because he wants someone who inspires nobility of spirit.
What a jerk! Maybe it's the brain tumor talking...
kyforhillary
06-02-2008, 10:56 AM
I wish they would come on and do it it is killing me to wait. McCain is speaking now, man I hope he does it.
Folamix
06-02-2008, 10:57 AM
I know it would be a great thing to have, but I'm betting Senator Clinton getting the nomination nod doesn't depend on people seeing this tape. It would help, but I doubt it's a make-or-break situation.
Let's keep on writing and calling and supporting and encouraging - look where those things have gotten us so far - Hillary is winning!:)
Just sayin' don't put all your eggs in the "Whitey basket.":cool:
I just have the feeling that there is the fix in to trash the Cliintons. They will do whatever they have to do so that Hillary does not win the nomination and they are starting this rumour campaign about Bill's "alleged" inappropriate behavior on the campaign trail. So much of this inequity is so obvious, there must be some overriding reason why they are so flagrant in their singlemindedness.
The other thing is why is Alice Palmer saying that she does not want to be part of the story, about the tactics Obama used against her, yet she is a Clinton supporter. Is there some pressure or underlying reason why she doesn't want that brought up?
There are some unsavory characters and associations in Obama's past and present. I pray we find out before it is too late, but I have a sinking feeling that we won't
Brooke
06-02-2008, 10:57 AM
I wish they would come on and do it it is killing me to wait. McCain is speaking now, man I hope he does it.
McCain's not going to do it. He doesn't want to go negative but my Republican McCain supporter friend tells me he'll have to to have a chance.
BooskerD
06-02-2008, 10:58 AM
The rumored quote.
This is pure rumor:
Reported verbiage from Michelle Obama’s tape
Michelle Obama, “Once again, the white man keeps us down, what’s up with Whitey, Why’d he attack Iraq, Why’d he let Katrina happen, Why’d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us.”
Again the above is an alleged quote from a rumored video featuring Michelle Obama.
We can start sending emails to Nancy Pelosi (contact info below) and ask her if she knows about this tape.
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
http://www.speaker.gov/contact
Wouldn't the best course of action be to write to Hannity, Dobbs, and O'Reilly? Nancy Peolosi doesn't care. The DNC hacks have their agenda. They won't be listening to us. They stole delegates from Hillary and awarded Barack delegates he didn't earn!
The DNC is HOPELESS!
Dendy
06-02-2008, 11:00 AM
We can start sending emails to Nancy Pelosi (contact info below) and ask her if she knows about this tape.
Nancy Pelosi is useless. We need to send this to the media. Every newspaper, every radio, every blog, every news channel. EVERYWHERE.
It's up to us to demand the video now.
Eddie3dfx
06-02-2008, 11:00 AM
The rumored quote.
This is pure rumor:
Reported verbiage from Michelle Obama’s tape
Michelle Obama, “Once again, the white man keeps us down, what’s up with Whitey, Why’d he attack Iraq, Why’d he let Katrina happen, Why’d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us.”
Again the above is an alleged quote from a rumored video featuring Michelle Obama.
Where did you get this?
Because this was on the daily kos/dd underground.. all of this was what it COULD BE.. not a rumor
But a written b.s. by a pro obama author to negate the real story that they haven't even seen yet.
They were writing b.s. to minimize a story before it broke.
lanney
06-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Hope it's okay to post this here. Ted Kennedy will have brain surgery today at Duke University Hospital.
MSNBC is saying Ted had said before going surgery that he want to come back and make Obama win.
Spagpusher
06-02-2008, 11:08 AM
I hope Hillary stays far away from this story until this tape actually becomes public. If it remains only a rumor - never coming to the surface ... it could ruin her to be associated with it. She has to keep far far away from this until someone else brings the real proof completely out on the table.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:10 AM
FYI guys..
If you google NoQuarter, underneath the link it says the site is overwhelmed with traffic.
This has to be a good sign, everyone. I can't see so many people flooding the site if there's nothing there.
I was on NQ this morning and Larry had a post that said there were over 50k hits yesterday and they're having an issue keeping up with the increasing web traffic over there.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:12 AM
I hope Hillary stays far away from this story until this tape actually becomes public. If it remains only a rumor - never coming to the surface ... it could ruin her to be associated with it. She has to keep far far away from this until someone else brings the real proof completely out on the table.
If you ask me I think she KNOWS more about this tape then we really know..... AND GOOD FOR HER... I'm sorry don't run for politics as a squeaky clean candidate and expect it to go unnoticed..... I just remember her saying in a speech recently in OR that everyone should pay attention listen and look and don't make any quick decisions just yet. She knew something was coming....
hipelayne
06-02-2008, 11:13 AM
MSNBC is saying Ted had said before going surgery that he want to come back and make Obama win.
Well unfortunately brain tumors make you do and say stupid things ...
SadStateOfAffairs
06-02-2008, 11:13 AM
I think the reason they have stolen delegates from Hillary is so she won't ever reach the "number". That's why she is pushing the popular vote argument. I think the DNC is going to let Barack implode and then appoint their own left wing zealot to run for POTUS. Say John Kerry maybe? Now it makes sense why they were trying to "push" her out. This is an outrage!
Not if we have anything to do with it.
LucyTN
06-02-2008, 11:15 AM
You know, at first I was genuinely sad when I heard about his health travails, and although I wish him well, as I do all my fellow travelers on the planet, my feelings have changed. I heard him say that no way should Hillary be the VP choice because he wants someone who inspires nobility of spirit.
What a jerk! Maybe it's the brain tumor talking... No, I agree with you. I'm terribly sorry he's ill but I've held no great fondness for him for many years. Late sixties?
I don't want Hillary to accept VP but not for Ted's reason. I don't want her mixed up in such a mess that I fully expect to evolve if that man should take over our country. Plus, why should she play second fiddle for someone who, in my opinion, is a very shady character and very possibly may not have the best interests of us all. Not to mention that she has already forgotten more about governing than he will ever learn.
Soren
06-02-2008, 11:15 AM
Obama people will say and have already begun to say, "C'mon, it's just a wife, not the candidate, and it's out of context and it was years ago and they have already left the church. You are engaging in Republican tactics and can we get on with the issues, now." Kennedy will get better and speak on his behalf and it will be back to meaninglessness as usual.
don't get excited.
Alex01
06-02-2008, 11:17 AM
I'm going to mail it everywhere, as soon as I can get to the site. I know we have what's there here, but I just want to be able to say I got it from the horse's (sorry, Larry;)) mouth.
I would include a reflection of Julianne's sentiments when you mail it, that it is unpatriotic to hold onto something that would save us as a nation from four years of this out-and-out conman, his hate-filled wife, and their very dangerous associates.
LucyTN
06-02-2008, 11:18 AM
MSNBC is saying Ted had said before going surgery that he want to come back and make Obama win.Would it be just too, too tacky to wish him a very looong recovery?
ShyFire
06-02-2008, 11:21 AM
mybarackobama.com is already gearing up for the spin... they are claiming that MO is saying 'why'd he' instead of 'whitey' and that the tape is 'doctored'.
So- seems to me, the Obama camp *knows* that the tape exists- why else would they be doing damage control?
Hmmm. I wonder how they'll explain MO having a conversation with Fharakan in the first place?
Spagpusher
06-02-2008, 11:22 AM
Yep Scott ... and I remember that about a month or so ago Lanny Davis was on Hannity & Colmes and Hannity was just itching to get Lanny to talk about something and then said words to the effect of ... "I know, we can't talk about it yet." Hannity and Lanny both were smiling ear to ear.
I think they do know it's out there. I'm just glad that so far that she - and her campaign people - have not mentioned a peep about it. Let her supporters push for it to come to the table or let the GOP put it out. Just not a word from her or from her actual campaign.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:29 AM
Would it be just too, too tacky to wish him a very looong recovery?
Well being respectful I really do wish him well.... BUT politically he's a MAJOR problem in the Democratic Party. He's part of that bleeding liberal sect trying to drag the Party into scary territory.... It's time for him to go from active politics...
SugnSpicesmom
06-02-2008, 11:29 AM
Listen guys,
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't see the article at NQ as being any big deal at all. It's like "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend" kind of thing. Until it's proven the tape actually exists and is played out in front of the public, this thing today on NQ makes Larry Johnson look like an opportunist who tried to flush "the tape" out from the GOP/media. In other words, he thought if he said he had crucial information and proof about it, that the GOP and media wouldn't want to be upstaged by him and THEY would release the tape. Johnson's plan backfired. Now he has egg on his face and his credibility is pretty much shot IMO.
Talk about a frickin' letdown. First we had Sinclair claiming he was in Washington, DC really shaking things up and that he would be providing astounding proof that Obama is gay, blah, blah, blah. Then Johnson who was going to break out this astounding video of Michelle Obama using the "whitey" term. Guess what? We are still sitting here waiting, looking like idiots for putting stock into anything either one of them say.
Now....the only saving grace is Robert Stone who was on Fox who said the tape exists. He's the guy who broke the story on Eliott Spitzer and the call girl stuff. If Stone puts stock in the Michelle Obama "tape" theory it probably is true. But....until it's truly exposed we need to press on.
I'm not saying that what was on Johnson's website isn't illuminating and holds some interesting information but until all this can actually be proven (or disproven) it's just heresay. Best thing to do is to press forward, make calls, write letters, and keep campaigning for Hillary all the way to the convention or until she tells us otherwise.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 11:32 AM
mybarackobama.com is already gearing up for the spin... they are claiming that MO is saying 'why'd he' instead of 'whitey' and that the tape is 'doctored'.
I'm going with the belief that Larry Johnson already vetted the authenticity of the tape and he knows it wasn't doctored. If the Republicans have it and are planning on using it, it's fair to believe that they've carefully vetted the tape themselves!
Wouldn't the best course of action be to write to Hannity, Dobbs, and O'Reilly? Nancy Peolosi doesn't care.
I think Nancy Pelosi does care. I think she's a total moron...but I think she cares far to much about winning the GE to ignore these types of things. If the DNC already has word of this tape, it's safe to assume that Axelrod is telling them it's been doctored.
Area504
06-02-2008, 11:33 AM
Believe it or not, I've heard the GOP actually wants the tape released now. The uber-conservatives in the party really don't like Johnny Mac (he's too liberal for them). They would prefer to have the Dems win now so they can run someone more conservative in 2012. They actually want Hillary to defeat McCain, and she has the better chance of doing so. That's why the tape may come out sooner than later.
I apologize for not having a link about this...I didn't bookmark the site where I read this and I've been doing a lot of reading online lately. Knowing that the GOP has felt that way about The Maverick for quite some time now (remember what they did to him in 2000?) I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is true.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:36 AM
Believe it or not, I've heard the GOP actually wants the tape released now. The uber-conservatives in the party really don't like Johnny Mac (he's too liberal for them). They would prefer to have the Dems win now so they can run someone more conservative in 2012. They actually want Hillary to defeat McCain, and she has the better chance of doing so. That's why the tape may come out sooner than later.
I apologize for not having a link about this...I didn't bookmark the site where I read this and I've been doing a lot of reading online lately. Knowing that the GOP has felt that way about The Maverick for quite some time now (remember what they did to him in 2000?) I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is true.
WELL TO BE HONEST.... the GOP is between a rock and a hard place with this video... it's MUCH MORE effective now then to do it in the fall... People know it exists so for them to wait it really minimizes the impact to wait.... it may backfire on them if they wait...
Mom4Hillary
06-02-2008, 11:36 AM
I know it would be a great thing to have, but I'm betting Senator Clinton getting the nomination nod doesn't depend on people seeing this tape. It would help, but I doubt it's a make-or-break situation.
Let's keep on writing and calling and supporting and encouraging - look where those things have gotten us so far - Hillary is winning!:)
Just sayin' don't put all your eggs in the "Whitey basket.":cool:
I love your perspective on this. thank you.
OkieforHRC2008
06-02-2008, 11:37 AM
Hope it's okay to post this here. Ted Kennedy will have brain surgery today at Duke University Hospital.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope all goes well. Surgery of any kind is serious stuff. I'm praying for the Kennedy family.
~~OkieforHRC2008
NewHamster
06-02-2008, 11:38 AM
My guess is the Repub in question is Romney, which is why he is squirming back into McCain's good graces. Also he could afford 17 years worth of video tapes.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 11:39 AM
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't see the article at NQ as being any big deal at all. It's like "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend" kind of thing. Until it's proven the tape actually exists and is played out in front of the public, this thing today on NQ makes Larry Johnson look like an opportunist who tried to flush "the tape" out from the GOP/media.
Hold on there! Larry Johnson isn't without a hell of a lot of credibility! He's been around for awhile and he's a professional. He's not going to ruin his reputation as a credible source by pulling a stunt like this. He understands the importance of this AND the repercussions of creating this level of excitement without any merit. I'm with Larry Johnson on this one.
No, I agree with you. I'm terribly sorry he's ill but I've held no great fondness for him for many years. Late sixties?
I don't want Hillary to accept VP but not for Ted's reason. I don't want her mixed up in such a mess that I fully expect to evolve if that man should take over our country. Plus, why should she play second fiddle for someone who, in my opinion, is a very shady character and very possibly may not have the best interests of us all. Not to mention that she has already forgotten more about governing than he will ever learn.
Oh, heck, I don't want her to accept the VP spot, either! I just felt that Ted's comment was not only extremely hurtful and uncalled for but completely incorrect. Hillary does inspire nobleness. She's nothing if not noble in her quest. She cares about us!
Karen Keefe
06-02-2008, 11:42 AM
to DENVER! She must get back the FL and MI votes and delegates the DNC/RBC Caucuses in TX, WA, NV, IN and more stole from her. She must sue every dang election board in every dang state who robbed her and us of our voice. She must put MI and FL back in the 50 US STATES. She must tell the delegates and super delegates to stop pandering to this spoiled, temper tantrum throwing BO and his grossly immature cultish followers, stop being intimidated by their threats of more tantrums (riot, bullying intimidation and even more voter supprestion) and do the right thing and nominate a mature, experienced, accomplished candidate for once.
What is the HQ number? We gotta bombard Hillary with our support. Also, e-mail her. And DNC even more. Groundswell support rocking on!
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:43 AM
Well the scuttle butt is that a GOP supporter and billionaire is the one who put up a million for this tape. Richard Mellon Scaiffe... I think most of you will remember that name from Pittsburgh :-)
Bacio83
06-02-2008, 11:46 AM
Listen guys,
Now....the only saving grace is Robert Stone who was on Fox who said the tape exists. He's the guy who broke the story on Eliott Spitzer and the call girl stuff. If Stone puts stock in the Michelle Obama "tape" theory it probably is true. But....until it's truly exposed we need to press on.
That's what Heraldo said that Stone came out with the Spitzer story and he was right then. Heraldo IMO seems to be a HRC supporter all the coverage he was doing yesterday in PR and he had a huge smile when Stone was talking about this tape, he also seems to cut off bots. YMMV
Mom4Hillary
06-02-2008, 11:48 AM
I finally got in to No Quarter. The Obamanuts are commenting like crazy and dissing Larry big time. Then I got dropped out. I think news reporters are hitting the site big time too. Wish they would get off their rear ends and do some real investigative reporting to help expose the truth about the shallowness, racist, man Obama is.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 11:53 AM
I finally got in to No Quarter. The Obamanuts are commenting like crazy and dissing Larry big time. Then I got dropped out. I think news reporters are hitting the site big time too. Wish they would get off their rear ends and do some real investigative reporting to help expose the truth about the shallowness, racist, man Obama is.
I LOVE IT.... someone woke up this morning and banged on El TurdO's wasp nest he stayed in bed and sent his worker bees out to attack everywhere LOL Funny I go to NQ all the time and while you get the occasional TurdO'not in there they don't last long and then leave....
SusanfromPA
06-02-2008, 11:53 AM
I think the reason they have stolen delegates from Hillary is so she won't ever reach the "number". That's why she is pushing the popular vote argument. I think the DNC is going to let Barack implode and then appoint their own left wing zealot to run for POTUS. Say John Kerry maybe? Now it makes sense why they were trying to "push" her out. This is an outrage!
Not if we have anything to do with it.
Try Dizzy Dean as VP - Obama gets disqualified that leaves Dean and Pelosi running the country.
That's when I not only leave the democratic party but I run like hell for Canada!
Tea toaD
06-02-2008, 11:54 AM
Update: Rumor now holds that ABC has the tape.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
Hillarysmygirl08
06-02-2008, 11:55 AM
I think the Republicians will have to release the tape or else Hannity will I. I believe that Hannity is a closet Clinton supporter. I think this needs to be released because for real rather or not she becomes President takes second place to electing this very dangerous man.
Alex01
06-02-2008, 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex01 http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?p=144796#post144796)
I know it would be a great thing to have, but I'm betting Senator Clinton getting the nomination nod doesn't depend on people seeing this tape. It would help, but I doubt it's a make-or-break situation.
Let's keep on writing and calling and supporting and encouraging - look where those things have gotten us so far - Hillary is winning!:)
Just sayin' don't put all your eggs in the "Whitey basket.":cool:
I love your perspective on this. thank you.
Thank you! I'm trying to make sure we're not hurt here any more than absolutely necessary. We've taken a lot of slings and arrows lately, and over the course of this campaign.
Hillary is such a great example for dealing with that sort of thing, isn't she? She never ceases to amaze me!:)
B positive
06-02-2008, 11:55 AM
I just got on... could hardly sleep... The first posting of the article on this thread was by tchgr3 (sp) so THANK YOU for capturing it and posting it since the site is hugely busy...... thanks from me & my co-worker;)
NYVIN4HILL08
06-02-2008, 11:56 AM
Hope it's okay to post this here. Ted Kennedy will have brain surgery today at Duke University Hospital.
he needs it
joeysky18
06-02-2008, 11:58 AM
By digging this story, Johnson pressures the TV network that has the tape to air it.
The longer they wait, they risk losing the chance to be the first channel to break the story.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 12:03 PM
I personally think that if ANY network breaks this story it's going to be FOX....
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Why do I feel like we're getting reallly close? I'm salivating..lol.
lovelikethisbefore
06-02-2008, 12:07 PM
Listen guys,
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't see the article at NQ as being any big deal at all. It's like "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend" kind of thing. Until it's proven the tape actually exists and is played out in front of the public, this thing today on NQ makes Larry Johnson look like an opportunist who tried to flush "the tape" out from the GOP/media. In other words, he thought if he said he had crucial information and proof about it, that the GOP and media wouldn't want to be upstaged by him and THEY would release the tape. Johnson's plan backfired. Now he has egg on his face and his credibility is pretty much shot IMO.
Talk about a frickin' letdown. First we had Sinclair claiming he was in Washington, DC really shaking things up and that he would be providing astounding proof that Obama is gay, blah, blah, blah. Then Johnson who was going to break out this astounding video of Michelle Obama using the "whitey" term. Guess what? We are still sitting here waiting, looking like idiots for putting stock into anything either one of them say.
Now....the only saving grace is Robert Stone who was on Fox who said the tape exists. He's the guy who broke the story on Eliott Spitzer and the call girl stuff. If Stone puts stock in the Michelle Obama "tape" theory it probably is true. But....until it's truly exposed we need to press on.
I'm not saying that what was on Johnson's website isn't illuminating and holds some interesting information but until all this can actually be proven (or disproven) it's just heresay. Best thing to do is to press forward, make calls, write letters, and keep campaigning for Hillary all the way to the convention or until she tells us otherwise.
Thank you!! I was expecting the video to come up. Now I'm kind of doubtful it even exists. I just think he should put it up! The big revelation is that he has sources who have seen it???? I don't know. I'm kind of mad right now :mad:
At least the rumor is out there?
Bacio83
06-02-2008, 12:08 PM
ABC a year after Hannity got on the ball with Wright and spun that story. If Fox and ABC have the tapes it's now a pissing contest and I for one hope they just it over with. LOL
Karen Keefe
06-02-2008, 12:09 PM
about this. First, address the RBC fascist fiasco Saturday and demand MI and FL count fairly. MI--Hillary gets all popular vote and correct % of delegates. BO gets ZERO. FL--Hillary gets popular vote and correct % of delegates. BO, who broke rules by campaigning, gets ZERO.
Second, address this Nation of Islam master plan to destroy our democracy and put totalitarianism in its place with BO as puppet leader. Follow the money--the plan is all there. US, for its part, starting with GOP voter suppression in FL in 2000, has been doing the same. GOP/Karl Rove/DNC/RBC/Donna, Nancy, Howard are playing dangerous political roulette out of sheeer pride and self-interest. Khalidi, Auchi, Rezko, Al Asammare (sp) who lives in Chicago instead of in prison, are all in on this plan to destroy our way of life. Obama and Osama are on the same page--Obama has just been sneakier about it until now.
So, call Hillary and tell her we want her to go to Denver. Then e-mail Hillary with copies to RBC/DNC/Donna/Howard/Nancy/Media re: voter suppression and fraud across this country in this primary. Hillary will then say the will of the people is sending her to Denver.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!
And take our democracy with you.
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:11 PM
While I see sharkeye's point, I don't know what good it would do to hype this up and have everybody go to NQ and all the attention it's getting if it wasn't planning on getting out there. These people wouldn't waste their time.
Where there's smoke, there has to be fire. And I kinda feel like we're at the endzone, it's now or never. Because releasing this Wednesday after which Obama's SDs will "flock" to him and he has the 2118 (which is what they're saying might happen), won't make an ounce of difference. It has to come out TODAY or tomorrow in order for this to work.
Area504
06-02-2008, 12:16 PM
ABC a year after Hannity got on the ball with Wright and spun that story. If Fox and ABC have the tapes it's now a pissing contest and I for one hope they just it over with. LOL
I still just wonder if anyone outside of this board has the sense to care.
Soaring Eagle
06-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Sounds like the only person this is going to help is MCcain in October. I was really hoping for A TAPE, NOW.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 12:21 PM
While I see sharkeye's point, I don't know what good it would do to hype this up and have everybody go to NQ and all the attention it's getting if it wasn't planning on getting out there. These people wouldn't waste their time.
Where there's smoke, there has to be fire. And I kinda feel like we're at the endzone, it's now or never. Because releasing this Wednesday after which Obama's SDs will "flock" to him and he has the 2118 (which is what they're saying might happen), won't make an ounce of difference. It has to come out TODAY or tomorrow in order for this to work.
That's right! Larry Johnson wouldn't have gotten himself into this if it weren't true and I just listened to Robert Stone in the video and he absolutely believes the tape exists. He wouldn't go on national tv and express such certainty without very credible sources.
Even if the tape doesn't come out today or tomorrow, as long as it picks up traction in the media, that might just be good enough.
Personally, I'd LOVE to see all the superdelegates endorse obama, including Pelosi...and obama partying it up at his victory celebration tomorrow night, only for the tape to come out a couple of days later...It would really showcase what complete fools they all are. Talk about embarrassment! They'll all be pointing the finger of blame at each other for their endorsement and then run to Hillary.
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:23 PM
Sounds like the only person this is going to help is MCcain in October. I was really hoping for A TAPE, NOW.
Well not necessarily. Here's a question: If say something big comes out during the GE and the DNC finally wakes up and realizes "Oh crap, we ARE about to lose this election" Is there any way possible for them to take back the nomination from Obama? I know, crazy question, but I'm just curious.
hipelayne
06-02-2008, 12:23 PM
While I see sharkeye's point, I don't know what good it would do to hype this up and have everybody go to NQ and all the attention it's getting if it wasn't planning on getting out there. These people wouldn't waste their time.
Where there's smoke, there has to be fire. And I kinda feel like we're at the endzone, it's now or never. Because releasing this Wednesday after which Obama's SDs will "flock" to him and he has the 2118 (which is what they're saying might happen), won't make an ounce of difference. It has to come out TODAY or tomorrow in order for this to work.
His 2118 doesn't make a damn bit of difference until roll call at the convention anyway! He can crown himself all he likes - I think it will be great if he has all 2118 superdelegates hanging around him then everyone can see their faces - there has to be a bunch of them up for re-election this year and unless BO wins the Presidency and the US is transformed into a dictatorship there us nothing he will be able to do help them keep their seats! A good strong effort to oust all incumbent democrats that have stood in the way of democracy should start now. Even down to the lowest of the lowest political office - whether that be school board, county/city commission - whatever!
Christines
06-02-2008, 12:24 PM
We should all blog to the two stations and ask them to produce it! Tell them millions will be grateful and they will receive loyalty from us forever! Also great ratings and $$$!
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:25 PM
That's right! Larry Johnson wouldn't have gotten himself into this if it weren't true and I just listened to Robert Stone in the video and he absolutely believes the tape exists. He wouldn't go on national tv and express such certainty without very credible sources.
Even if the tape doesn't come out today or tomorrow, as long as it picks up traction in the media, that might just be good enough.
Personally, I'd LOVE to see all the superdelegates endorse obama, including Pelosi...and obama partying it up at his victory celebration tomorrow night, only for the tape to come out a couple of days later...It would really showcase what complete fools they all are. Talk about embarrassment! They'll all be pointing the finger of blame at each other for their endorsement and then run to Hillary.
That's probably why we might be seeing Hillary just suspend her campaign and wait for this thing to come out, IF she needs it! We need to make calls and work for her today and tomorrow obviously, but if we have to rely on this, that scenario would make more sense.
Mrsawd
06-02-2008, 12:26 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/readerarticles/?period=all
Check out he stories here !
hipelayne
06-02-2008, 12:26 PM
Well not necessarily. Here's a question: If say something big comes out during the GE and the DNC finally wakes up and realizes "Oh crap, we ARE about to lose this election" Is there any way possible for them to take back the nomination from Obama? I know, crazy question, but I'm just curious.
I have wondered that myself - I just hope that if that happens Senator Clinton is running either as an Independent or VP for McCain! Wouldn't that throw a rotten egg in the dems plan?
B positive
06-02-2008, 12:27 PM
I wasn't expecting a tape today. I think Johnson said that it would just be an article describing what's allegedly on the tape.
His talking about it DOES force the hand of the holder.
I think all of the research we've done here has educated us enough to know that Farrakhan has been in the Chicago mix for decades. There is no doubt to me that this tape will reveal so many truths.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 12:30 PM
His 2118 doesn't make a damn bit of difference until roll call at the convention anyway! He can crown himself all he likes - I think it will be great if he has all 2118 superdelegates hanging around him then everyone can see their faces - there has to be a bunch of them up for re-election this year and unless BO wins the Presidency and the US is transformed into a dictatorship there us nothing he will be able to do help them keep their seats! A good strong effort to oust all incumbent democrats that have stood in the way of democracy should start now. Even down to the lowest of the lowest political office - whether that be school board, county/city commission - whatever!
The PROBLEM for him IS HE'S NOT going to have the 2118!
Mrsawd
06-02-2008, 12:30 PM
I want haraldo to eat his words an pay the 100.00$
movingtous
06-02-2008, 12:31 PM
Tape or no tape, we know where the Obamas stand. What more does it take to bring him down? Not long ago, I was writing his obituary, sometime in March, after the incendiary remarks of his beloved pastorl. Well, white people have a resilience to take more crap than anyone I know! Asian people would have dissed him long before now, for a lot less than what white people have been getting from the Uniters. I hope the two remaining states would wake up and take some action.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by ClintonFan1992 View Post
Well not necessarily. Here's a question: If say something big comes out during the GE and the DNC finally wakes up and realizes "Oh crap, we ARE about to lose this election" Is there any way possible for them to take back the nomination from Obama? I know, crazy question, but I'm just curious.
I have wondered that myself - I just hope that if that happens Senator Clinton is running either as an Independent or VP for McCain! Wouldn't that throw a rotten egg in the dems plan?
If something comes up Obama will be expected to remove himself from the race. At that point a replacement would step in. The DNC would ask Hillary if she'd continue the race in Obama's place. It happens all the time with politicians when they're running for elections.
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 12:33 PM
MSNBC is saying Ted had said before going surgery that he want to come back and make Obama win.
Going into brain surgery and he's thinking about Obama .... please tell me they were joking? I wish him well, but that is bizarre.
B positive
06-02-2008, 12:33 PM
... ... Personally, I'd LOVE to see all the superdelegates endorse obama, including Pelosi...and obama partying it up at his victory celebration tomorrow night, only for the tape to come out a couple of days later...It would really showcase what complete fools they all are. Talk about embarrassment! They'll all be pointing the finger of blame at each other for their endorsement and then run to Hillary.
Awesome visual! Thanks, Ijane!:p
LucyTN
06-02-2008, 12:34 PM
I have to wonder how stupid someone would be to rush to give him their endorsement right now. Of course I've wondered how stupid they are, and how they got to a position of some power long before this. If I happened to be in the position that they are I believe I'd keep my mouth shut and my eyes and mind open right up till convention time. Those people who endorsed him months ago just proved that they liked him and nothing else. They knew nothing about him because there really wasn't much to know. Simply his being black is not a good enough reason, for me.
Modeville
06-02-2008, 12:35 PM
I read on NoQuarter that they are negotiating with PayPerView for the tape....I hope that they made copies of this tape.
B positive
06-02-2008, 12:36 PM
Going into brain surgery and he's thinking about Obama .... please tell me they were joking? I wish him well, but that is bizarre.
I wish I could say it was the general anesthetic but 'fraid not. He'll be conscious and awake during the surgery so as to be able to communicate with the neurosurgeons.
On a side note, he'll have a good amount of head shaving. Odd to imagine him without hair. Maybe they'll minimize the shaving just for him.
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 12:37 PM
mybarackobama.com is already gearing up for the spin... they are claiming that MO is saying 'why'd he' instead of 'whitey' and that the tape is 'doctored'.
So- seems to me, the Obama camp *knows* that the tape exists- why else would they be doing damage control?
Hmmm. I wonder how they'll explain MO having a conversation with Fharakan in the first place?
They can say what they want, but like I posted before, it's more than the "whitey" comments. If she's sitting down with Farrakhan and working with him, look out. The connections that Larry Johnson is drawing here with the Nation of Islam are the key. We can't nominate a terrorist sympathizer for president.
Ijane
06-02-2008, 12:39 PM
Primary or no primary, Michelle Obama is a Democrat. She is a member of our party and when they pull this sh*t on her, they don't do it to just her, they do it to all of us.
Oh yeah? I want to see her voting record. Has it been made public?
ZY123
06-02-2008, 12:40 PM
Listen guys,
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't see the article at NQ as being any big deal at all. It's like "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend" kind of thing. Until it's proven the tape actually exists and is played out in front of the public, this thing today on NQ makes Larry Johnson look like an opportunist who tried to flush "the tape" out from the GOP/media. In other words, he thought if he said he had crucial information and proof about it, that the GOP and media wouldn't want to be upstaged by him and THEY would release the tape. Johnson's plan backfired. Now he has egg on his face and his credibility is pretty much shot IMO.
Talk about a frickin' letdown. First we had Sinclair claiming he was in Washington, DC really shaking things up and that he would be providing astounding proof that Obama is gay, blah, blah, blah. Then Johnson who was going to break out this astounding video of Michelle Obama using the "whitey" term. Guess what? We are still sitting here waiting, looking like idiots for putting stock into anything either one of them say.
Now....the only saving grace is Robert Stone who was on Fox who said the tape exists. He's the guy who broke the story on Eliott Spitzer and the call girl stuff. If Stone puts stock in the Michelle Obama "tape" theory it probably is true. But....until it's truly exposed we need to press on.
I'm not saying that what was on Johnson's website isn't illuminating and holds some interesting information but until all this can actually be proven (or disproven) it's just heresay. Best thing to do is to press forward, make calls, write letters, and keep campaigning for Hillary all the way to the convention or until she tells us otherwise.
Impression is everything...time to fight dirty. I don't care if it's hearsay or not...I'm going to blog it everywhere before work today...make people wonder and think it's true. In the world of public opinion it's the impression and perception of truth that matters not truth itself....we've been on the receiving side of that, time to be on the giving side......you know what they say payback is....a.....*****.
Area504
06-02-2008, 12:41 PM
Going into brain surgery and he's thinking about Obama .... please tell me they were joking? I wish him well, but that is bizarre.
Couldn't agree more.
spin spin spin.
Area504
06-02-2008, 12:41 PM
More spin on the Whitey tape:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/6/1/235757/2325
Bacio83
06-02-2008, 12:42 PM
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I'm going to agree to disagree with you. When someone spits in your face do you ask if they're in the same political party before you kick their ass? I don't think so... what binds us isn't much of anything, this woman I can not defend. No way no how. I've heard her make some awful comments and I can't defend her, sorry.
Karen Keefe
06-02-2008, 12:43 PM
about this. First, address the RBC fascist fiasco Saturday and demand MI and FL count fairly. MI--Hillary gets all popular vote and correct % of delegates. BO gets ZERO. FL--Hillary gets popular vote and correct % of delegates. BO, who broke rules by campaigning, gets ZERO.
Second, address this Nation of Islam master plan to destroy our democracy and put totalitarianism in its place with BO as puppet leader. Follow the money--the plan is all there. US, for its part, starting with GOP voter suppression in FL in 2000, has been doing the same. GOP/Karl Rove/DNC/RBC/Donna, Nancy, Howard are playing dangerous political roulette out of sheeer pride and self-interest. Khalidi, Auchi, Rezko, Al Asammare (sp) who lives in Chicago instead of in prison, are all in on this plan to destroy our way of life. Obama and Osama are on the same page--Obama has just been sneakier about it until now.
So, call Hillary and tell her we want her to go to Denver. Then e-mail Hillary with copies to RBC/DNC/Donna/Howard/Nancy/Media re: voter suppression and fraud across this country in this primary. Hillary will then say the will of the people is sending her to Denver.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!
And take our democracy with you.
B positive
06-02-2008, 12:43 PM
...Here's a question: If say something big comes out during the GE and the DNC finally wakes up and realizes "Oh crap, we ARE about to lose this election" Is there any way possible for them to take back the nomination from Obama? I know, crazy question, but I'm just curious.
Sure, if he drops out OR if the DNC votes him out. There are rules in the charter for this.
BooskerD
06-02-2008, 12:46 PM
Where did you get this?
Because this was on the daily kos/dd underground.. all of this was what it COULD BE.. not a rumor
But a written b.s. by a pro obama author to negate the real story that they haven't even seen yet.
They were writing b.s. to minimize a story before it broke.
As I stated in the head line, I got it from the "Revolutionary Political Blog"...definitely not a pro-Obama place.
Area504
06-02-2008, 12:48 PM
More spin on the Whitey tape:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/6/1/235757/2325
Oh sweet Jesus, this is how they're going to spin this thing:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg1YjIzYjFkNjEyMzBiNTY0MDE4ZGRmNjdlN2RjODA=
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:48 PM
Going into brain surgery and he's thinking about Obama .... please tell me they were joking? I wish him well, but that is bizarre.
He's got a CRUSSSHHH on him!!! :D
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 12:49 PM
I just got on... could hardly sleep... The first posting of the article on this thread was by tchgr3 (sp) so THANK YOU for capturing it and posting it since the site is hugely busy...... thanks from me & my co-worker;)
No problem, B, and you're welcome! I couldn't believe when I finally got through, and then had to wait for the second page to get the whole article. I thought it best to just copy and paste it back here for everybody, although I know we're not really supposed to do that. Please forgive me, Murray!
I think the article is, to use Larry's word, "stunning." There's much more info than just the tape. Wait till the general public gets wind of the Farrakhan/Nation of Islam connections to Obama. That's the most damning part of it.
B positive
06-02-2008, 12:49 PM
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This is an extraordinary interesting post... tell us more about how you feel.
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Oh sweet Jesus, this is how they're going to spin this thing:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg1YjIzYjFkNjEyMzBiNTY0MDE4ZGRmNjdlN2RjODA=
OH MY GOODNESS!!! They can't be serious!!
Joe from WI
06-02-2008, 12:49 PM
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You are contradicting yourself. You say you are against BO for his tactics against Hillary Clinton, but in the end you say you wont allow Mccain to hit at BO. What is right is right, and wrong is wrong. BO is wrong candidate for this nation, be in black, white, gender, democrat, republican or independent.
BO has proven he is dirty and has the backing of back-room power brokers in DEM Party. If you are standing up for AMERICA (not just Hillary), then you should denounce BO, and not embrace him for the GE.
Bacio83
06-02-2008, 12:51 PM
Oh sweet Jesus, this is how they're going to spin this thing:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg1YjIzYjFkNjEyMzBiNTY0MDE4ZGRmNjdlN2RjODA=
So their spin is Michelle doesn't know how to speak correctly. Why'd he? Come on now she couldn't say Why did he... riiight.
They've switched kool-aid flavors to delusional.
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 12:53 PM
While I see sharkeye's point, I don't know what good it would do to hype this up and have everybody go to NQ and all the attention it's getting if it wasn't planning on getting out there. These people wouldn't waste their time.
Where there's smoke, there has to be fire. And I kinda feel like we're at the endzone, it's now or never. Because releasing this Wednesday after which Obama's SDs will "flock" to him and he has the 2118 (which is what they're saying might happen), won't make an ounce of difference. It has to come out TODAY or tomorrow in order for this to work.
We have almost three whole months until the convention. Nothing is official until then, and those super delegates can change their minds any old time. Hillary can suspend her campaign and just wait if she needs to do it that way. I wouldn't want to be Obama with this hanging over his head.
Karen Keefe
06-02-2008, 12:55 PM
TOOOODAY!
Also, raise holy heqq re: the DNC/RBC fascist attempt to doom our democracy on 5/31. MI is outright third world totalitarianism and FL is the same, just sneakier. Read the Corrine Brown blog at taylormarsh.com. Corrine Brown is a FL rep. who uncovered Jeb Bush et al voter suppression in 2000. FL 2008 is more of the same.
I'm e-mailing Arlen Specter, R-PA to encourage him to sue the DNC/RBC about stealing MI and FL votes and all the other voter suppressiona and fraud BO and co. have committed the last 16 months. It the GOP can help us restore our democracy, GREAT. We'll be keeping an eye one them, too.
We must take our help wherever we can get it.
Brooke
06-02-2008, 12:55 PM
So their spin is Michelle doesn't know how to speak correctly. Why'd he? Come on now she couldn't say Why did he... riiight.
They've switched kool-aid flavors to delusional.
Don't forget, this is the same woman who said she and Barack didn't have an elitist 'upbringin' :rolleyes:
SadStateOfAffairs
06-02-2008, 12:56 PM
I'm not defending Barack or Michelle for anything, ever! They are frauds. Period!
Tea toaD
06-02-2008, 12:57 PM
The MO tape sounds like it's not coming about. I still think there is one or more with both MO and BO sitting in church listening and or nodding in agreement to Rev. Wright.
Christines
06-02-2008, 12:57 PM
Obamites are shi**ing their pants! They are afraid. Very afraid!!!
Kbentleyis
06-02-2008, 12:58 PM
Califlefty:
Let me make myself clear to you. After Michelle Obama disgraced HRC, "can't keep her own house, how can she keep the White House," I don't care if they spread nude pictures of her in Playboy!
Further, if Hillary is not the nominee, I and many of us in this forum are voting for McCain. I personally would rather have a war hero that loves this country than a phoney, racist IDIOT.
If you don't want to hear my rant, I suggest you move to the oppositions site.
NYVIN4HILL08
06-02-2008, 12:59 PM
I hope Hillary stays far away from this story until this tape actually becomes public. If it remains only a rumor - never coming to the surface ... it could ruin her to be associated with it. She has to keep far far away from this until someone else brings the real proof completely out on the table.
yep they will say she put it out , like the blamed her for tha african garb photo
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 12:59 PM
The MO tape sounds like it's not coming about. I still think there is one or more with both MO and BO sitting in church listening and or nodding in agreement to Rev. Wright.
PATIENCE MY CHILD :-) I think it'll be out.... Maybe not today but soon.... Now that major networks (FOX) are talking about it on several occasions.... it's going to come...
Area504
06-02-2008, 01:03 PM
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OK, you can start by renouncing me...and good luck with that.
If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will officially become one of "McCain's people" who will gleefully help to do to Obama what he and his bots did to Hillary.
He and his wife deserve no less....not just because of what they did to Hillary, but for who they are.
I don't want those people in the White House. To me, they are dangerous and a threat to the national security of our country. I will do everything in my power to see that John McCain is elected if the Democratic Party doesn't wake up.
She is a member of our party and when they pull this sh*t on her, they don't do it to just her, they do it to all of us. I am not a member of the Democratic Party, but I will say that perhaps the Obamas should have thought about what they were doing before they pulled this sh*t on Hillary. What goes around comes around.
ZY123
06-02-2008, 01:05 PM
There was much excitement and speculation this morning regarding a possible disclosure regarding the Obama campaign and we were all waiting for confirmation. That confirmation never came and I doubt it ever will. The fact of the matter is this now seems to be nothing other then some vague innuendo with no reliable proof of existence. As far as I am concerned, the issue is done and settled.
Good for you. As far as I'm concerned FL and MI have full voting power based on the actual votes cast.
Please look up the definition of "fact".
We know that such dirty campaign tactics have been run against Hillary. On a daily basis her words are interpreted to mean something they weren't, and she has been accused of the most vile and vicious lies. That smear campaigns are now being used on both sides of the Democratic isle is going to be part of the legacy of this primary campaign, and that's a shame, but let me be clear about where I think the fault lies -- The campaign Obama ran was nothing short of the same kind of sh*t that the GOP did to the Clinton in the 90's. The same thing and it will be hard to forget.
What's good for the goose.....sorry man no one's sitting down on this one.
Primary or no primary, Michelle Obama is a Democrat. She is a member of our party and when they pull this sh*t on her, they don't do it to just her, they do it to all of us.
What is this party of which you speak? The clowns on the TV Saturday?...thanks but no thanks...not my party.
It is an assault on the entire Democratic Party, as was the garbage thrown at Hillary, so Team Obama has no reason to gloat.
"concern" noted...nice throw in.
As much as it pains me to say it, Barack Obama is the likely nominee, which means that Michelle will probably be the First Lady of the United States.
He's not the nominee yet and nominee or NOT he'll never step foot in the white house...period.
Difficult primary or not, we need to passionately defend Michelle Obama against this smear and I will reject and renounce anybody who pushes it, even if I once called them my allies.
"renounce and reject"? Interesting choice of words.
The campaign isn't over I know, let's not give up, let's keep up the good fight --- with the emphasis on GOOD and keep are heads high.I am disillusioned with the Democratic Party, and the manner in which it has been hijacked by Obama camp, with the willing support of the corporate media. If Obama is the candidate of our party then I wont forget that Obama built himself up by tearing down our last two term President, but I won't allow McCain's people do to Obama what Obama's people mercilessly did to Clinton.
And the close with more "concern". Sorry buddy, but this is war, the time for being nice is over.
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by califlefty:
Don't expect me to defend someone who calls our great country "a mean country" and then sits down with Louis Farrakhan. Noone is pulling anything on her. She's responsible and accountable for her own words and actions.
skc1976
06-02-2008, 01:07 PM
Larry never heard the tape.
But obama is...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2332929267_620dae4a43.jpg?v=0
I hate when mold forms on my bread trying to speak to me in some sort of messiah way. LOL :D
Tea toaD
06-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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Only if you consider party first. She might be a democrat but so are Dean, Pelosi, Reid and the rest who want party first and people not to count. They've ditched Hillary for a fellow elistist and his wife:confused:
Brooke
06-02-2008, 01:13 PM
These people are Democrats in name only. They don't do anything to stand up for the principles of our party.
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 01:15 PM
Michelle Obama the unpatriotic must have said some really awful things
Ohio mom
06-02-2008, 01:15 PM
Sorry I will not stand up for a piece of s*** like the obama's after all of this goes down...they will stand alone on this...this is not how I view America and they will not make their disgusting views speak for me!!! If they don't like it too damn bad!!! I can't stand either one of them and will never understand how someone who has had everything handed to them on a silver platter can have such a hatred about them!!! I work my a** off day in and day out...I am not bitter, typical, mean or un-American!!! Her views will never be explained well enough for me to back her!!!
bangorgirl
06-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Sorry, no f#$%en way would I EVER defend boor mo, I hear no "I'm sorry'S" coming from them for the shit that they pulled!
BooskerD
06-02-2008, 01:24 PM
Michelle Obama can rot for all I care...I almost think I loathe her more than B.O.!
Brooke
06-02-2008, 01:27 PM
Michelle Obama can rot for all I care...I almost think I loathe her more than B.O.!
Me too..lol.
LarryMac
06-02-2008, 01:29 PM
Are we talking about the same person who is basically telling white Americans, 'Let them eat cake!'
Ohio mom
06-02-2008, 01:31 PM
I hate when mold forms on my bread trying to speak to me in some sort of messiah way. LOL :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO!!!! Me too!!! :D:D:D
Wyoming Dem
06-02-2008, 01:39 PM
Found this at political discontent
http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-bomb-bombs-plural-to-be-dropped.html
Sunday, June 1, 2008
Obama bomb (bombs - plural?) to be dropped Monday
On Fox, Neil Cavuto, June 2, 4pm (ET?) has an "explosive" bomb to release on Obama.
Larry Johnson at NoQuarter has a bomb to release on Obama at 9am Monday.
Are they the same bomb or different bombs?
Is it (finally) the tape release of Michelle Obama bitching about "whitey"?
Is their more than one explosive tape with her rants on it?
Will American obamabots wake up in time before it's too late?
Will the media grow some balls and gain some ETHICS before it's too late?
stay tuned......
Joe from WI
06-02-2008, 01:50 PM
I can't respond to you because apparently the administrator chose to delete my post for having the temerity to actually stick up for Michelle Obama against a smear campaign. Obviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign. SHAME ON YOU MURRAY!
I posted a slightly expanded version of my comments on the Ed Schultz message board. I expect this note to half a short half life as well.
You should be the one who is ashamed. You claim to support Hillary Clinton but yet you turn around and insinuate that MO is a victim. C',mon, dont think we are stupid.
We Hillary supporters are loyal to our country and we dont vote for Party just because of Party line.
nette60
06-02-2008, 01:51 PM
OK, here is the deal.
We need to get someone from the DNC and the media to ask Obama if this took place (or Michelle if Obama is clueless).
IF they deny it and it comes out later, he is sunk.
If he is asked the question now, maybe it'll be enough for SD's to switch their votes to Hillary for the nomination!
Blog this everywhere, send to media, SD's, DNC, friends, etc.!!
I have been saying for the longest.Most of the media has been bought and will not admit their mistakes....In addition to the media, please send your infor to all members of Congress whether SD or not..I think pressure from them is the best thing....I know that my state senator was one of few that spoke out for Hillary
ZY123
06-02-2008, 01:52 PM
I can't respond to you because apparently the administrator chose to delete my post for having the temerity to actually stick up for Michelle Obama against a smear campaign. Obviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign. SHAME ON YOU MURRAY!
I posted a slightly expanded version of my comments on the Ed Schultz message board. I expect this note to half a short half life as well.
Not cool at all. If you have an issue with a mod or Murray try the PM button. Also if you wonder why a post might have been removed (not that I'm saying it has, I don't know) I suggest re-reading the site rules you agreed to when you registered.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
I hate when mold forms on my bread trying to speak to me in some sort of messiah way. LOL :D
LOL if that ever happens you might want to check the expiration date on your OJ it might have gone bad causing unnatural thoughts :-)
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
I can't respond to you because apparently the administrator chose to delete my post for having the temerity to actually stick up for Michelle Obama against a smear campaign. Obviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign. SHAME ON YOU MURRAY!
I posted a slightly expanded version of my comments on the Ed Schultz message board. I expect this note to half a short half life as well.
I agree with Murray. Your original post had no place in this forum and your statements in defense of Michelle Obama were particularly offensive to me.
Marie
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
IObviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign.
boohoo
Bacio83
06-02-2008, 01:55 PM
I can't respond to you because apparently the administrator chose to delete my post for having the temerity to actually stick up for Michelle Obama against a smear campaign. Obviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign. SHAME ON YOU MURRAY!
I posted a slightly expanded version of my comments on the Ed Schultz message board. I expect this note to half a short half life as well.
You do know that not only Murray has the power to delete posts as well eh? There are mods here.
Plus I just think defending Michelle is more than this site can stomach. If you haven't noticed Michelle has never been one to stick up for Hillary in fact she's gone out of her way to rub salt in our wounds and spit in her face. Like I said earlier... if someone spit in my face I wouldn't ask who their political party is before I threw the first punch.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 01:55 PM
I AM SHOCKED that ANYONE would be in here defending Michelle Obama! That woman is UNF*CKINGBELIEVEABLE!
She hates this Country ... hates white people... is so self loathing that only she could think she's a victim of society as a millionaire and graduate of an Ivy League school....
WHAT THE F*CK IS TO DEFEND?? She's PURE TRASH!
ZY123
06-02-2008, 01:57 PM
Actually I'm more annoyed someone is on here dissing Murray and the mods....if you have an issue take it to PM...how hard is that? It's also common sense....how ridiculous.
Dendy
06-02-2008, 01:59 PM
Why do I have to support MO? What is going on here?
I’m never going to support anybody from the Obama family period.:mad:
Everyone with such requests should go to a different forum and stop harassing us. It’s just not going to happen here.
bangorgirl
06-02-2008, 02:01 PM
Why would anyone want to defend mo, or bo? They don't stick up for us. If Hillary drops out I see it as she was forced out, therefore I will work for big Mac if I have to. NOBO!!!
Tea toaD
06-02-2008, 02:01 PM
IObviously free speech does not apply in this forum - and thus I resign
If you are still reading this board, free speech for promoting MO is detestable. I agree that your posts should have been removed. You are acting like a baby. This is Pro-Hillary and should remain that way:mad: Knock yourself out sharing your concern for MO somewhere else:rolleyes:
Area504
06-02-2008, 02:02 PM
Don't feed it, guys. The mods will just have more to clean up later. I'm serious.
bangorgirl
06-02-2008, 02:07 PM
Sorry I just have a hard time when someone tells me I need to defend bo or mo, I am so grateful to have this forum it's the only place that we can support Hillary without being attacked. So thanks to all the mods.
Mrs L
06-02-2008, 02:11 PM
Where is it???
Who owns it ?
Are there copies?
Why won't they show it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary once said there would be a November surprise. I want it now.
ZY123
06-02-2008, 02:11 PM
Guys, I am starting to think that there is no tape. Why hasn't Larry delivered yet like he promised?
It doesn't matter if there's a tape...there are sources confirming a tape...enough to alter perception...use it. Pounce on the weakness while the wound is fresh.
bangorgirl
06-02-2008, 02:17 PM
I heard one of the pundits yesterday on fox, they said one of the networks has it. Fox had a reporter say "prez. Clinton said this is probably his last day campaigning." That was at a rally in s. dakota. I hope it isn't over!
VANITY4HILLARY
06-02-2008, 02:23 PM
Guys I hope we are all making those calls today
Area504
06-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Guys, I am starting to think that there is no tape. Why hasn't Larry delivered yet like he promised?
I just read this on another message board. This board is a group of friends, private membership by invitation only so I can't provide a link.
Anyway, this is what I read, and it's coming from an Obama supporter:
Kerry ignored false rumors in the hope they would go away. There is only one reason Obama could be ignoring this - it must be true, or true enough. The information is specific enough - SHe was sitting on a panel with Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan, that it would be pretty simple matter to say either, "Michelle Obama was never on that panel," or "She was on the panel, here is the tape, and she didn't say those things."
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 02:38 PM
Guys, I am starting to think that there is no tape. Why hasn't Larry delivered yet like he promised?
I think we need to either put Hillary's name on the ballot or vote for McCain. Sadly, Obama seems likely to succeed in stealing the nomination.
Steve
LARRY JOHNSON does NOT have the tape.... he knows who does and he's just creating the vibe (setting it up) to it being released... I think he's been promised that it will but he's not exactly sure as to when/where... Larry has a good reputation and he's an ex CIA agent I don't think he'd go out on a limb publically if he didn't know what he was doing here. Fox has even talked about this video so it's out there and not really all that surprising if you ask me LOL It's only the effect of it on the public if they hear it coming from the horse's (no pun) :-) mouth!
mukunda22
06-02-2008, 02:39 PM
column was very revealing.
There is a contingency of people, like the author of that column and also the people who responded to the column, who are very nonsupportive of Larry and Susan.
They were all abt them when they uncovered the Valerie Plame situation (notice Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson are for Hillary) but now that they all are in the BO ditch, they make statements that make it seem that Larry and Susan are crazy with hate for Obama.
Apparently, many of these bloggers know Susan and Larry personally, but now have broken ties.
Believe me, this is a point of view that will gain momentum in the blog-o-sphere.
thebword
06-02-2008, 02:44 PM
I understand and feel too all the excitement surrounding this thread, but please let's keep our comments in our usual manner, free from foul language and personal attacks. The fact that this tape is finally coming to the MSM and blog sphere attention should be enough to make us all overjoyed.:D We do not need to lower ourselves to the level of other bloggers. This forum is civilized, and that is why most of us login everyday. Do not give the TROLLS, who must be here in force today, the opportunity to copy and spread negativity that will only reflect badly on us, this forum, and Sen. Clinton.
suerw
06-02-2008, 03:09 PM
Why do I have to support MO? What is going on here?
I’m never going to support anybody from the Obama family period.:mad:
Everyone with such requests should go to a different forum and stop harassing us. It’s just not going to happen here.
I see nothing defensible about MO, who said "I have never been proud of my country in my adult life....," "American is a mean country in 2008" and other remarks indicating her disrespect for America and for us Americans. All I've seen from her is a mean-spirited attitude. She is the one who is "bitter," as is BO.
Also, as one who once moderated a site, I agree that any issues on forum policy should be taken privately to Murray or a moderator in a PM.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 03:23 PM
Why would the republicans use this tape now when they fought so hard to run against Obama. And there is still time for the Supers to vote for Hillary maybe what they really wanted is him to win it all so they could blame Iraq on the dems that is why we hear the surge is working every day now. Fox also went along with all the rest of the media and put Hillary down so she never looked like she was winning plusthe top b in the house is way to friendly with Bush her daughter is on Air Force one as a reporter and friends with Bush this whole race has been unreal makes me want to vote for Barr who I hate at this point who do you trust beside Hillary.Who Knows maybe Obama is suppose to be the fall guy and he doesn't even know it. You know Like Carter was.
I think if the GOP are behind this then they would release it now because they realize it could backfire on them and not be as effective if they wait... if people know it's out there for months and then finally see it it might not have the same effect then if they release it now..
Annie
06-02-2008, 03:24 PM
So... a Republican who was running for their nomination has the tape. Well guys/gals.... it is pretty easy to figure out which Republican has the smarts to find it and the one who is brave enough to have it and keep it - the previous "Elliot Ness" style officer of the Republican Party - the one who went after the Mob and got them - GUESS?
Rudy Guilliani That's right - you may have guessed it. And I bet I am right in this. :eek:
BillDemo
06-02-2008, 03:27 PM
The GOP must have heard that Obama was leaving his church so now they are taking steps towards releasing the tape. Now is the time it can do the most damage. If they were smart, they'd release it this week.
Area504
06-02-2008, 03:28 PM
So... a Republican who was running for their nomination has the tape. Well guys/gals.... it is pretty easy to figure out which Republican has the smarts to find it and the one who is brave enough to have it and keep it - the previous "Elliot Ness" style officer of the Republican Party - the one who went after the Mob and got them - GUESS?
Rudy Guilliani That's right - you may have guessed it. And I bet I am right in this. :eek:
Rudy...right?
On edit: Ah, I see you had it hidden in your post!! LOL
i hate nbc and cnn
06-02-2008, 03:28 PM
I think if the GOP are behind this then they would release it now because they realize it could backfire on them and not be as effective if they wait... if people know it's out there for months and then finally see it it might not have the same effect then if they release it now..
obama supporters have been saying they will riot if hillary "steals" the nomination from obama so if they release the tape now the sd will go to hillary and the gop will think it has divided the party
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-02-2008, 03:29 PM
BillDemo is right - all of this Trinity Church stuff has come out in a big wave ... it would make sense for the tape to come out this week also
Brooke
06-02-2008, 03:31 PM
You guys ever see "Enemy of the State" with Will Smith and Gene Hackman? I feel like I'm in that movie
"Who made the tape?"
"I made the tape"
'I don't have the tape"
LOL!!
I hope that info Wyoming Dem posted is true. Guess we'll see at 4pm.
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 03:33 PM
The GOP must have heard that Obama was leaving his church so now is the time to release it. Now is the time it can do the most damage. If they were smart, they'd release it this week.
I think that whole "leaving the church thing" was BECAUSE of this tape... they know it's coming out sometime soon SO what does BO do.... make up a story that he's leaving the church as if it's going to create some cushion from the fallout LOL
joeysky18
06-02-2008, 03:37 PM
Guys I hope we are all making those calls today
Agree with Vanity4Hillary.
Wyoming Dem
06-02-2008, 03:47 PM
You guys ever see "Enemy of the State" with Will Smith and Gene Hackman? I feel like I'm in that movie
"Who made the tape?"
"I made the tape"
'I don't have the tape"
LOL!!
I hope that info Wyoming Dem posted is true. Guess we'll see at 4pm.
It was a comment on that site so I have no idea of it's veracity. Scott said he heard something about fox as well.
xfiles
06-02-2008, 03:52 PM
I've sent the article everywhere but more people should do it also. Repetitive emails from different sources get noticed.
Send to SD's, Pelosi, etc. It can't hurt. You never know, maybe enough will have doubts because of it.
Nancy Pelosi is useless. We need to send this to the media. Every newspaper, every radio, every blog, every news channel. EVERYWHERE.
It's up to us to demand the video now.
Karee Wyoming
06-02-2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah, Larry appologizes for the slow site... they've added server after server and it's hard to keep up with the traffic apparently.... yesterday there were 50k peeks there.
NOW, the big thing will be WHO WILL SHOW and WHEN we see this actual tape! I firmly believe it exists because it's not unbelievable at all... I saw some gossip that Fox will be the one breaking the story at some point.... one mentioned this evening.....but I'll believe it when I see it.
I think Larry (who has a great reputation) is putting a lot on the line talking about this when it is being held back from the public....
I am pretty sure it will be Fox - Hannity keps bringing up BO association with Farrakahn every night, and the interview of Heraldo & Roger Stone in PR - Heraldo slyley said he did not believe it!! They are suttely getting the public ready for the bomb to drop!!!! Dont look for CNN or MSNBC to break it!! All are chicken O-Bama tankers!!!!!!
Brooke
06-02-2008, 04:01 PM
It was a comment on that site so I have no idea of it's veracity. Scott said he heard something about fox as well.
I clicked on the link and it's from the blog so maybe it is true. I guess we'll find out in less than an hour.
ginamc
06-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Has anyone been in contact with Alice Palmer? I heard she campaigned with Chelsea Clinton in Indiana. I thought there must of been some pretty bad blood between her and BO for that to happen. There are other people who know the truth - please write your elected officials.
CNN had a Special Investigation story on BO and Palmer yesterday.
Viktoriya
06-02-2008, 04:12 PM
Don't expect me to defend someone who calls our great country "a mean country" and then sits down with Louis Farrakhan. Noone is pulling anything on her. She's responsible and accountable for her own words and actions.
Agree.
She is not 20 years old anymore.
It was her choice, her actions, her responsibility
ginamc
06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Let's spell it out for the dumbo media:
Farrakhan given award by Trinity.
Obama/Michelle members of Trinity.
Pfleger enamoured with Farrakhan and Wright.
Pfleger feels comfortable with his recent rant at Trinity.
Why? Because Obama, Michelle, Wright, Farrakhan are part of a racist cabal that has listened to and participated in this type of discourse.
Send this with the info Larry Johnson posted everywhere you can think of.
I have already!!! Get it out there!
I heard it put this way on GMA today by Chris Cuomo:
It is NOT about the Messenger, and much as it is about... THE MESSAGE. All of these messages, rants, themes, hateful rhetoric from Trinity are not about specific people but rather, it's about the overall MESSAGE of Racism that pervades that place. And, obviously, a place that BO gravitatated to for over 20 years.
ginamc
06-02-2008, 04:15 PM
I still just wonder if anyone outside of this board has the sense to care.
Oh yes, they do! I can think of dozens of people who I've told, and they CARE and want something done about this!
I hate when mold forms on my bread trying to speak to me in some sort of messiah way. LOL :D
ROFLMAO!!!!!
Tape or no tape, we know where the Obamas stand. What more does it take to bring him down? Not long ago, I was writing his obituary, sometime in March, after the incendiary remarks of his beloved pastorl. Well, white people have a resilience to take more crap than anyone I know! Asian people would have dissed him long before now, for a lot less than what white people have been getting from the Uniters. I hope the two remaining states would wake up and take some action.
Ditto with Latinos! He is having trouble with Latinos BIG-TIME. First time that he dis'd Hillary in NV, word spread about BO's B.S., and Hispanics were very upset about that. He's persona non-grata with the majority of us.
Area504
06-02-2008, 04:18 PM
Oh yes, they do! I can think of dozens of people who I've told, and they CARE and want something done about this!
That's encouraging. I'm really, really glad you responded. Thanks!
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 04:22 PM
He really only has the ultra left wing liberal votes... and the AA votes... I wouldn't even give him the youth vote because that is too hard to gauge as they blow like the wind (not reliable voters)....
Area504
06-02-2008, 04:23 PM
He really only has the ultra left wing liberal votes... and the AA votes... I wouldn't even give him the youth vote because that is too hard to gauge as they blow like the wind (not reliable voters)....
That's true. If the young voters get something better to do on Election day, they will take it and drop him like a hot potatoe (sic).
Artists4Hillary
06-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Listen guys,
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't see the article at NQ as being any big deal at all. It's like "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend" kind of thing. Until it's proven the tape actually exists and is played out in front of the public, this thing today on NQ makes Larry Johnson look like an opportunist who tried to flush "the tape" out from the GOP/media. In other words, he thought if he said he had crucial information and proof about it, that the GOP and media wouldn't want to be upstaged by him and THEY would release the tape. Johnson's plan backfired. Now he has egg on his face and his credibility is pretty much shot IMO.
Talk about a frickin' letdown. First we had Sinclair claiming he was in Washington, DC really shaking things up and that he would be providing astounding proof that Obama is gay, blah, blah, blah. Then Johnson who was going to break out this astounding video of Michelle Obama using the "whitey" term. Guess what? We are still sitting here waiting, looking like idiots for putting stock into anything either one of them say.
Now....the only saving grace is Robert Stone who was on Fox who said the tape exists. He's the guy who broke the story on Eliott Spitzer and the call girl stuff. If Stone puts stock in the Michelle Obama "tape" theory it probably is true. But....until it's truly exposed we need to press on.
I'm not saying that what was on Johnson's website isn't illuminating and holds some interesting information but until all this can actually be proven (or disproven) it's just heresay. Best thing to do is to press forward, make calls, write letters, and keep campaigning for Hillary all the way to the convention or until she tells us otherwise.
I have to agree.
ginamc
06-02-2008, 04:40 PM
That's true. If the young voters get something better to do on Election day, they will take it and drop him like a hot potatoe (sic).
A new Wii Vid should do the trick! :D
Alex01
06-02-2008, 04:43 PM
Hillary just said on FOX News that she would not drop out or concede on Tuesday night (it might have been Wednesday night, I only caught the tail-end of it)!
Senator Hillary Clinton is going all the way to the White House!!:cool:
GOHillary08
06-02-2008, 04:46 PM
Larry never heard the tape.
But obama is...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2332929267_620dae4a43.jpg?v=0
This one's just a classic! Made my day.
I made a backup link of the story just in case.
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take.html
Area504
06-02-2008, 04:52 PM
I made a backup link of the story just in case.
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take.html
Great idea!
ScottVA
06-02-2008, 04:59 PM
This one's just a classic! Made my day.
If my toaster starts burning his figure on my bread it's going right to the dumpster... LOL Or MAYBE I could call Father Pfleger to perform an exercism on it! LOL
Donald
06-02-2008, 05:00 PM
If my toaster starts burning his figure on my bread it's going right to the dumpster... LOL Or MAYBE I could call Father Pfleger to perform an exercism on it! LOL
I needed a good laugh..Thanks
teachgrd3
06-02-2008, 05:14 PM
I've sent the article everywhere but more people should do it also. Repetitive emails from different sources get noticed.
Send to SD's, Pelosi, etc. It can't hurt. You never know, maybe enough will have doubts because of it.
Absolutely. I just finished sending it, with my own brief comments, to all undecided superdelegates asking them to declare for Hillary, and also to those declared for Obama and asking them to switch.
You never know when something will make an impression on someone. It's worth the effort.
ginamc
06-02-2008, 11:09 PM
I just saw this explanation of the Whitey vid. Larry Johnson just posted that BO camp just concocted or doctored a transcript stating that the vid goes something like this "why'd he?" -- NOT "whitey' So indirectly admitting it exists. BO gave to MSM because they were bugging him too much about it, and to his big donors. Looks like he's worried.
DK and other bloggers are blogging this insane stuff:
How you'd say it:
Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?
How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:
Whitiey cut folks off medicaid?
Whitiey let New Orleans drown?
Whitiey do nothing about Jena?
Whitiey put us in Iraq for no reason?
Yeah, right... WHATEVER.
ginamc
06-02-2008, 11:14 PM
If my toaster starts burning his figure on my bread it's going right to the dumpster... LOL Or MAYBE I could call Father Pfleger to perform an exercism on it! LOL
LOL!!! I love that toast, I laughed so hard when I saw it -- it is GREAT!
Area504
06-02-2008, 11:27 PM
If my toaster starts burning his figure on my bread it's going right to the dumpster... LOL Or MAYBE I could call Father Pfleger to perform an exercism on it! LOL
Thank you for this....I needed a good laugh right now!! http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cajuncocoa/Emoticons/Laughing_RoflSmileyLJ.gif
Area504
06-02-2008, 11:34 PM
I just saw this explanation of the Whitey vid. Larry Johnson just posted that BO camp just concocted or doctored a transcript stating that the vid goes something like this "why'd he?" -- NOT "whitey' So indirectly admitting it exists. BO gave to MSM because they were bugging him too much about it, and to his big donors. Looks like he's worried.
DK and other bloggers are blogging this insane stuff:
How you'd say it:
Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?
How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:
Whitiey cut folks off medicaid?
Whitiey let New Orleans drown?
Whitiey do nothing about Jena?
Whitiey put us in Iraq for no reason?
Yeah, right... WHATEVER.
I feel pretty much the same: Whatever.
Wouldn't it be bad enough for most people that she's sitting there cozying up to Louis Farrakhan?
OK, we could explain that away maybe...she's on a panel with him. I guess we could accept that. Certainly the average Obamoron would have no problem with it.
But this whole "why'd he/whitey" thing is bizarre. I know African Americans who use that dialect, but they're usually not Princeton graduates with advanced degrees. How condescending is it if she's mocking the dialect of lesser-educated African Americans just to pander to them? Am I alone in thinking that way? I know Oprah slips into that dialect at times, so maybe it's not as insulting to African Americans as I would think it is. Enlighten me, please. I know I get irritated when people make fun of Southern accents, so I would have expected this to be about the same.
itsourturn
06-02-2008, 11:52 PM
I think that tumor explains his endorsement of Obama.
Charlie Brown
06-03-2008, 12:03 AM
I feel pretty much the same: Whatever.
Wouldn't it be bad enough for most people that she's sitting there cozying up to Louis Farrakhan?
OK, we could explain that away maybe...she's on a panel with him. I guess we could accept that. Certainly the average Obamoron would have no problem with it.
But this whole "why'd he/whitey" thing is bizarre. I know African Americans who use that dialect, but they're usually not Princeton graduates with advanced degrees. How condescending is it if she's mocking the dialect of lesser-educated African Americans just to pander to them? Am I alone in thinking that way? I know Oprah slips into that dialect at times, so maybe it's not as insulting to African Americans as I would think it is. Enlighten me, please. I know I get irritated when people make fun of Southern accents, so I would have expected this to be about the same.
I feel the same ...When Oprah started talking AA dialect I thought why would they fall for this...Then in the next sentence she spoke like MLK...it was sick..
But they all went in droves to see her here in Iowa...You know what they call Iowa..Idiots out wondering around...LOL! I believe it and I was born here...:(
ScottVA
06-03-2008, 12:09 AM
I feel the same ...When Oprah started talking AA dialect I thought why would they fall for this...Then in the next sentence she spoke like MLK...it was sick..
But they all went in droves to see her here in Iowa...You know what they call Iowa..Idiots out wondering around...LOL! I believe it and I was born here...:(
That is hilarious never heard that analogy LOL You sound like me able to make fun of yourself it's great to have a little self humility...
HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-03-2008, 03:09 AM
Oh my god I hope the tape is released this week ! :)
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