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desmagee88
06-04-2008, 06:34 AM
The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women's Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women's Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant --- his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

This outburst happened just one month before the 2004 Democratic Convention, when Barack Obama delivered the keynote address.


...at Hillbuzz and NoQuarterUSA

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/04/breaking-news-from-hillbuzz/#more-2922

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 06:35 AM
Wow thanks for posting!
But it means the tape exist, but do you when the bomb will explode???

braane
06-04-2008, 06:37 AM
amazing! It does exist! Wholly crap!... I am so excited, I want to maek phone calls to all of my firends--dont care if it is 4:40 or not! this is incredible... lord please let this be the day

Rick V
06-04-2008, 06:41 AM
lets see when it comes out and if the media will report on it and how the nobama camp will try and spin this

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 06:43 AM
After this news I can't absolutely sleep!:D

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 06:45 AM
Damn, thought it was released...
Just woke at 4:30am because of the excitement :D:D:D:D:D:D

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 06:50 AM
WOW ahah Nobody can sleep!:D:D

B positive
06-04-2008, 06:53 AM
D/\MN, we're good here! I was just coming to paste it! Yippee, We're 24/7 on this thing;)

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 06:55 AM
I want the tape! ahah:D And then I want to see how Obama will save himself and his wife!
CLINTONS FOREVER!

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 06:56 AM
You know the movie mad mad world.. they make a sequel rate race.. thats kind of what this tape is like
everyone is stumbling and going crazy to be the first to get this tape!

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 06:57 AM
I'm becoming crazy!:DI am so exicited!

Joe from WI
06-04-2008, 07:03 AM
Voting for BO means:
1/ Vote for Iran, Cuba, Hamas who endorsed and supports BO.
2/ Vote for hate figures inside and OUTSIDE USA who are against USA and Israel.
3/ Vote for inexperience - aka GWB part II.
4/ Vote for hypcocrisy, lies, flipflops.
5/ Vote for DNC who disenfrenchises MI and FL and turn aorund and ask for Unity ticket.
6/ Vote for racism as BO has played racist card from the beginning.
7/ Vote for staying in IRaq coz BO mentioned he will place troops until 2010 (ie. until he runs for 2nd term).
8/ Vote for half-&&%# health plan as BO says he will not instal universal health care until the end of his first term. (ie. he wants you to elect him for 2nd term with more lies).

braane
06-04-2008, 07:04 AM
I have already blooged this up on all of my blogs... there was no way I was letting this go by... I woke my parents up just to tell them. They didn't seem to mind either, maybe they were half asleep though so Idk.

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 07:06 AM
The irony is that Clinton's Charity has done an incredible amount of good for Africa, so F*** YOU micHELLe Obama

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 07:24 AM
This NEWS IS AMAZING!!!

HAHA TAKE THAT OBAMABOTS!!! THERE ARE MANY TAPES OUT THERE NOT JUST ONE AND CLINTONS MUST HAVE ONE!!! THIS IS THE END OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AFTER THEY CLINCHED THE NOMINTAION!!! NOW HILLARY WILL WIN!!! HAHA!!! I HOPE THE TAPE COMES OUT TODAY LIKE EVERYBODY PREDICTS IT WILL!!! MICHELLE OBAMA IS AN UNPATRIOTIC AND NOW RACIST ! YOU ARE EVIL OBAMAS YOU ARE EVIL!!!

lynfreedom
06-04-2008, 07:29 AM
I was trying to get to bed now you have me doing research everywhere.

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 07:33 AM
So far its on noquarter, rezkowatch, and originally posted by Hillbuzz
any others?

braane
06-04-2008, 07:36 AM
I was searching everywhere... looking for these videos. It appears the Obama's clean up good...because there isnt even a cache or a dead link for any video. I do, however, remember downloading some sermons from the site way back in January. Which means that the videos could have very easily been on there.

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 07:36 AM
Michelle Obama is rude :mad:

lynfreedom
06-04-2008, 07:37 AM
google it there is a ton of junk now...lot saying Larry is making it up.

Rick V
06-04-2008, 07:37 AM
another thing that helped him is his girls can you believe him they are so yound and to pull them off from school if they are in school to campaign with him that is just unfait. He wanted to get attention for doing that

Lillian
06-04-2008, 07:39 AM
For those who are unable to access the site, the first 2 comments:

Comment by dave™© | 2008-06-04 03:31:50

The “tape” is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity’s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

So there should be a ton of these around, shouldn’t there?

Let’s see one, Larry. C’mon!

Reply to this comment
Comment by Larry Johnson | 2008-06-04 03:35:53

Actually, I may be able to satisfy that request based on what I have learned in the last hour. Send me your phone number and I’ll be sure to call you and alert you so that you can be one of the first to enjoy.

WOW YAY!!! Something's definitely cooking! HA! :D:D:D

Brooke
06-04-2008, 07:42 AM
Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference

If he was there during this, than it ALL makes sense.

Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans

I think she's referring to Somalia and Rwanda here, neither of which were his fault.

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 07:43 AM
The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women’s Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

So thats why she was able to blast him, because he wasn't at this event.

braane
06-04-2008, 07:45 AM
Something is in the air... and it aint the stinch that perfumes the air whenever I see Obama. No, do you smell that guys? That is the sweet smell of victory!

Mrsawd
06-04-2008, 07:46 AM
finally the news about the tape !


Obama can not care much about being a father I am sorry but for all that is coiming out about him wait til kids come up to his and says I saw your daddy with a erection and start telling them about how decietful that thir daddy is !!


no morals

Rick V
06-04-2008, 07:47 AM
I really want to know when the hell his is going to come out already I heard it was going to come out this past monday but nothing as of yet

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 07:48 AM
The Clintons must have a copy of it and if so it is coming out today :cool:

Rick V
06-04-2008, 07:50 AM
Hillary must know something becuase she def. did NOT look like she was ready to give up and she did say she was not.

Brooke
06-04-2008, 07:52 AM
The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women’s Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

So thats why she was able to blast him, because he wasn't at this event.

Oh duh, I missed that. Sorry, I've only been awake for 10 minutes and I had a bit much to drink last night.;)

nette60
06-04-2008, 07:54 AM
The irony is that Clinton's Charity has done an incredible amount of good for Africa, so F*** YOU micHELLe Obama

Bill Clinton has worked side by side with Brad Pitt in Louisiana to help rebuild. When have you ever seen either Barack or UG MO helping to do anything?

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 07:55 AM
Michelle Obama is a disgusting person :eek:

braane
06-04-2008, 07:56 AM
Bill Clinton has worked side by side with Brad Pitt in Louisiana to help rebuild. When have you ever seen either Barack or UG MO helping to do anything?

Bill Clinton was the first black president. What was she already building a constituency among blacks? Paint the first black President as a racist? She really has no idea does she?

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 07:56 AM
Good news is that they pinpointed when it was made.
I'm sure many people had this copy and had no idea, now that it's been pinpointed, people can go to archives for reference.
Hopefully it will be out today

Watch it's released and they will say, oh it was taken out of context!

I have never heard of someone who has a foundation for africa, being blasted for doing nothing for africa.. WTF has michelle done for africa outside of being black?

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 08:00 AM
maybe Michelle Obama is just jealous of the Clintons :eek:

Brooke
06-04-2008, 08:02 AM
maybe Michelle Obama is just jealous of the Clintons :eek:

Just like everybody else.

braane
06-04-2008, 08:03 AM
Michelle Obama is jealous of the guy at the checkout in your local Walmart....

She has no moral standards and she will pick and choose what she likes till she gets everything she wants.

Vici57
06-04-2008, 08:03 AM
Maybe Michelle needs to move to Africa!

Rick V
06-04-2008, 08:04 AM
yeah but we here at the Hillary Family love all the Clintons

Amy Dugan
06-04-2008, 08:06 AM
The pictures of the HAPPY CLINTON family last night looked like she won the nomination and these snapshots were in stark contrast to the night of IA loss and IN speech when she did not know if she won IN yet.

Was this because of her knowing about this tape????

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 08:07 AM
Who has the pictures of last night in NY???

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 08:19 AM
I Am So Excited About This Video!!! :D

Mrsawd
06-04-2008, 08:25 AM
Some people may go sell on ebay !

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 08:28 AM
I would think that this will be her day to burn in shame--due to public humiliation.

Sucks to be her.

Brooke
06-04-2008, 08:28 AM
The pictures of the HAPPY CLINTON family last night looked like she won the nomination and these snapshots were in stark contrast to the night of IA loss and IN speech when she did not know if she won IN yet.

Was this because of her knowing about this tape????

I wouldn't say that. But I think she definitely knows she has the upper hand.

hillaryhoosier
06-04-2008, 08:35 AM
As much as I want the Obama's exposed for the dangerous people they are, part of me is afraid that this tape won't make any difference.

Surely the DNC already knew about this and they all seem to be aboard the train anyway.

Lillian
06-04-2008, 08:40 AM
Maybe Michelle needs to move to Africa!

Hmmmm perish the thought! We have enough problems in Africa without the dynamic-hating-duo:eek::eek::eek:

Mrsawd
06-04-2008, 08:51 AM
I read a post that ABC and FOX already have it ! thi is probably Ho and why they have been saying alot of the things that needed said about Obama lately !

I also read that this tape is alover Washinton !
Some one will post it on You tube and we all need to be waiting to donload it as soon as we hear it becaue the Obots will try to have it taken off as soon as it hit the pages Of You tube or here ever else it appears !

Been hoping that Paster Manning would have it to release it because hey can not take it from there as soon as it hits the internet !(LIKE YOU TUBE)

LucyTN
06-04-2008, 08:51 AM
As much as I want the Obama's exposed for the dangerous people they are, part of me is afraid that this tape won't make any difference.

Surely the DNC already knew about this and they all seem to be aboard the train anyway. I think that may the fear of many of us. If they did know, and did nothing but push him forward, what does that say about our leaders? They don't care one whit about our country. That is chilling.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 08:52 AM
Public Outrage, folks--

That will be what seals the deal.

MO is just not fit to be First lady and every one will see it.

Linda C
06-04-2008, 08:55 AM
As much as I want the Obama's exposed for the dangerous people they are, part of me is afraid that this tape won't make any difference.

Surely the DNC already knew about this and they all seem to be aboard the train anyway.
It will make difference in the general election if nothing else.If the SD's are that stupid..then we can't help them.

I have always believed that for Obama to get anywhere, they had to tear down the Clinton's reputation. That had been planned from day one as evidenced by the Rev. Wright's rantings against Bill and Hillary Clinton in his sermons...the made-up myth of his childhood.

Mrsawd
06-04-2008, 08:58 AM
If Obama gets that far to be invovled in this election there will be more voting fraud than a little he will win by deception We can not let him get that far We need to keep on the Goverment asses to make them do there job and get him out of our Goverment impeach before he gets there !!!

Robin Orlowski
06-04-2008, 09:01 AM
Okay, so the evidence against the so-called golden boy of the DNC does exist. Why is it not being picked up on the newswires?

Their corporate owners should be foaming at the mouth over this information. A presidential candidate primed to become THE nominee is opposed to America.

Yes, I did give Hillary my note of encouragement. I am just so frustrated by all of this crap still going on. I have that feeling I did after the 2004 election when people knowing what W was like STILL voted for him.

What is wrong with the human race!!!:confused::confused::confused:

freespirit
06-04-2008, 09:16 AM
Bill Clinton was the first black president. What was she already building a constituency among blacks? Paint the first black President as a racist? She really has no idea does she?


I remember reading something on one of the blogs about three months ago- can't recall which one - that a number of citizens of An African village had died after BO and MO came to the village and did a promotion for AIDS testing and treatment. I think the medicines were provided through Bill's foundation. Can't recall the details, but the Obama's went to promote AIDs testing and were filmed as they had AIDS tests in that village. Many people in the village were prompted to get tested following their appearance. The problem was that once they tested positive, the people were shunned by others, lost jobs, became suicidal. I know there were several deaths by suicide, and I believe, several murders. It was a tragedy for the village. The article went on to say that there was not enough counseling and other services to help the people understand how to cope if the tested positive. and not enough research done on how others would treat those who were found to have the disease.

The entire thing was a fiasco. I wonder if this is the source of her anger toward Clinton - if she holds him responsible. If anyone recalls this article, please post it. I think it actually came from a Canadian web site. Will try to find it.

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 09:20 AM
Oh my god Michelle Obama is rude

Tea toaD
06-04-2008, 09:20 AM
Thanks for posting details but sure hope the tape comes out. That's what will be the clincher. Where o where is it? Who's sitting on it? I would have thought it would have come out by now with all the hoopla over the last couple weeks:confused:

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 09:21 AM
there are actually many DVDs of it according to HillBuzz so it must be out there!!!

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 09:22 AM
Uff WHEN WHEN???? I am so tired to wait for

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 09:26 AM
If BO and MO were the ones who went to that African Village, and they were the ones who did not oversee counseling about the disease of HIV, how is that Bill Clinton's fault??

Or, is everything Bill Clinton's fault?? LOL!!

According to the Obama's, I guess Bill is the scapegoat.

I remember reading something on one of the blogs about three months ago- can't recall which one - that a number of citizens of An African village had died after BO and MO came to the village and did a promotion for AIDS testing and treatment. I think the medicines were provided through Bill's foundation. Can't recall the details, but the Obama's went to promote AIDs testing and were filmed as they had AIDS tests in that village. Many people in the village were prompted to get tested following their appearance. The problem was that once they tested positive, the people were shunned by others, lost jobs, became suicidal. I know there were several deaths by suicide, and I believe, several murders. It was a tragedy for the village. The article went on to say that there was not enough counseling and other services to help the people understand how to cope if the tested positive. and not enough research done on how others would treat those who were found to have the disease.

The entire thing was a fiasco. I wonder if this is the source of her anger toward Clinton - if she holds him responsible. If anyone recalls this article, please post it. I think it actually came from a Canadian web site. Will try to find it.

Mrs L
06-04-2008, 09:30 AM
The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women's Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women's Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant --- his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

This outburst happened just one month before the 2004 Democratic Convention, when Barack Obama delivered the keynote address.


...at Hillbuzz and NoQuarterUSA

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/04/breaking-news-from-hillbuzz/#more-2922

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I have just sent your revelation to the DNC with this message below it from Me!!

WHEN THIS IS SHOWN AROUND THE WORLD THE USA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK. YOU WILL NO LONGER EXIST.

Go and remind them of the consequences when this is shown around the world.

Patricia GA
06-04-2008, 09:32 AM
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I have just sent your revelation to the DNC with this message below it from Me!!

WHEN THIS IS SHOWN AROUND THE WORLD THE USA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK. YOU WILL NO LONGER EXIST.

Go and remind them of the consequences when this is shown around the world.

EXACTLY!

VANITY4HILLARY
06-04-2008, 09:34 AM
I am not that much surprised by this and I can already imagine the spin on this.They will play victims again and white people will feel guilty(well we already know why white women is supporting this blk man and that is that Mandingo fetish they have for a blk *****).....Anyways this sorta dribble is not shocking to me at all.Most blks have these views and trust its not even because they even dealt with racism.Even lil blk kids have this train of thought I am guessing it comes from the music they listen to and how their parents raise them.

swannyj
06-04-2008, 09:34 AM
and they have the audacity to DEMAND the Clintons campaign for him I seriously doubt Obama will withdraw voluntarily and it doesn't look as if the SDs will have the balls to go to Hillary. They would rather screw Hillary and the 18 mil voters than devoate from script.

PhillyGuy1
06-04-2008, 09:34 AM
This NEWS IS AMAZING!!!

HAHA TAKE THAT OBAMABOTS!!! THERE ARE MANY TAPES OUT THERE NOT JUST ONE AND CLINTONS MUST HAVE ONE!!! THIS IS THE END OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AFTER THEY CLINCHED THE NOMINTAION!!! NOW HILLARY WILL WIN!!! HAHA!!! I HOPE THE TAPE COMES OUT TODAY LIKE EVERYBODY PREDICTS IT WILL!!! MICHELLE OBAMA IS AN UNPATRIOTIC AND NOW RACIST ! YOU ARE EVIL OBAMAS YOU ARE EVIL!!!


Whoa, HillaryClintonRules, I was nodding off back to sleep until I read your post. Definitely woke me up.

PhillyGuy1 :)

You Go Girl!
06-04-2008, 09:36 AM
Here is what an Obama supporter has to say in reponse to this information. I have been blogging on this forum and could use a little help. http://forums.hannity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7

POSTED BY GOEAGLES
Actually, the Rainbow/PUSH conference that year was at the Chicago Sheraton and Towers, with an opening event at Operation PUSH headquarters.
There's no mention in any of the accounts I can find of any such panel.
PUSH and Jesse Jackson are big news in Chicago.
It's beyond unlikely that those alleged remarks by Mrs. Obama were not reported, either by the mainstream Chicago press or by the black-oriented Chicago Defender, or black talk radio giant WVON.
I think the two blogs cited simply join the ranks of those who have a considerable burden of proof to meet if they're going to sell this story.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._n6153551/pg_1

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 09:36 AM
EVERYBODY WAKE UP!!! THIS IS THE DAY THE VIDEO IS LEAKED!!!! :D I am so EXCITED!!!

VANITY4HILLARY
06-04-2008, 09:40 AM
EVERYBODY WAKE UP!!! THIS IS THE DAY THE VIDEO IS LEAKED!!!! :D I am so EXCITED!!!

U seem sure about that dear?Its 8:41 am and nothing yet.Surely it woul have been out by now

Mrs L
06-04-2008, 09:41 AM
EVERYBODY WAKE UP!!! THIS IS THE DAY THE VIDEO IS LEAKED!!!! :D I am so EXCITED!!!

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WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE IT??

Lodi
06-04-2008, 09:58 AM
As much as I want the Obama's exposed for the dangerous people they are, part of me is afraid that this tape won't make any difference.

Surely the DNC already knew about this and they all seem to be aboard the train anyway.

It might not matter to the DNC hacks, who were going to force their agenda one way or the other, but it DOES/WILL matter in the broader scheme of things: to the 18 million Hill supporters, to Repubs, to Independents, and even to those who voted for Obama in the primary.

Once the tape is released, the Obamas will be toast.

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 09:58 AM
I feel confident :o

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 10:01 AM
It might not matter to the DNC hacks, who were going to force their agenda one way or the other, but it DOES/WILL matter in the broader scheme of things: to the 18 million Hill supporters, to Repubs, to Independents, and even to those who voted for Obama in the primary.

Once the tape is released, the Obamas will be toast.
Julianne do you believe the tape exist and it will be relased?

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 10:04 AM
Oh it exists or the Obama people wouldn't be making defenses before the tape (crime happens).... It's just a matter of when........ my issue is if this was something that the church website once sold I'm surprised more people don't have a copy of it! Only time will tell... I believe the media will do it's best to bury the story though even if it does come out soon.

Lodi
06-04-2008, 10:05 AM
Julianne do you believe the tape exist and it will be relased?

I do believe that a very damning tape exists, otherwise the Obama campaign would not have released the statement about "what Michelle really said" (e.g., they said she said "Why'd he" not "Whitey"). Why bother to clarify something that doesn't exist?

I also believe the tape will make it to the airwaves and that once it does, it will become clear, for whatever reason, what the delay has been. :)

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 10:06 AM
yes that's the problem...WHEN???? i PROMISED MESELF TO STAY POSITIVE...I can't think negative....!even if it's to hard for me...!

mooaks
06-04-2008, 10:06 AM
I don't have any doubts that the tape is in the hands of the powers that be in the Hillary campaign. Probably loaded into their laptops and used to convince the SDs that they are screwing over the party by voting for this couple to take over the white house. I'd not be surprised that within the next couple of days or one week that the case will be made and there will be a rash of shifts to Hillary. The voting is all over for us at the moment, the only people left to vote are the delegates between now and August;)

Lodi
06-04-2008, 10:08 AM
Oh it exists or the Obama people wouldn't be making defenses before the tape (crime happens).... It's just a matter of when........ my issue is if this was something that the church website once sold I'm surprised more people don't have a copy of it! Only time will tell... I believe the media will do it's best to bury the story though even if it does come out soon.

And we'll do our best to make sure the entire country hears it! Maybe left-wing extremists are willing to ignore hatespeak, but the majority of the country is not.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 10:10 AM
Maybe DNC and NBC (National Barok Corporation) will try and minimalize it, but the world is watching and so are we.

This cannot be good.

Robin Orlowski
06-04-2008, 10:10 AM
untill it's making public rounds, it's not helping the country get an effective Democratic candidate.

We still have people under a spell. They believe our opponent is a 'good' candidate. Making this tape public will make it next to impossible to continue that charade.

We know he's amateur hour (to say things 'nicely'). We don't need to convince ourselves. We need to convince the people who have been supporting him.

neutralplayer
06-04-2008, 10:15 AM
I don't know...

Personally, I still need to see this tape before I can believe it's real.

Vici57
06-04-2008, 10:16 AM
When the tape is release, I just hope that Keith Obermann will have to eat crow for now on! I understand the Obermann has been promoted at MSNBC. Go Figure, he is a stupid arrogant pr**k.

PhillyGuy1
06-04-2008, 10:17 AM
As much as I want the Obama's exposed for the dangerous people they are, part of me is afraid that this tape won't make any difference.

Surely the DNC already knew about this and they all seem to be aboard the train anyway.

Some of his supporters are so fixated by the Obama myth, that nothing will change their minds, no matter happens to be on the tape.
But fortunately this will at least give Clinton a justification for why she should take this all the way to the convention. For instance I'm sure there will be many of Obama's pledged delegates who now hearing about this tape would also like to switch sides, as well as the superdelegates who can switch at any time.


PhillyGuy1

ssmith
06-04-2008, 10:21 AM
this tape I have no doubt exists.. and it seems to be in character with her..

when dean screamed.. it didn't seem out of character.. b/c we kind of knew that was in him

its easier to believe things of people if we have seen them say or do things similar to that..

I mean, com'on she says she's finally proud of this country for the FIRST TIME after 44 years?? then she says America is mean and arrogant...???


really??? com'om!!!!!!!!!!

I believe Larry and this tape WILL MAKE a difference.. who in the H*ll would vote for a racist?

and this not a white issue.. Hillary has a very diverse base.. I know a lot of posters on this forum, like me, are not white.. and that racist language against ANY race is offensive to me!

nomination is 3.5 months away.. let the GOPs go after him!

Molly
06-04-2008, 10:21 AM
THANK YOU - You have made my day, month, year - I am SO HAPPY - will spread the word!

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 10:23 AM
COME ON LEAK IT ALREADY!!! :eek:

Robin Orlowski
06-04-2008, 10:24 AM
I'm optimistic a proven tape would signifigantly cut into their numbers. Either that or a conviction with ties directly connected to him.

It would be difficult to argue that he was a savior from 'dirty politics'.

But it does go back to having the evidence. We need the evidence for anythign to occur. Otherwise it's all going to be wistful speculations--and the country will suffer.

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 10:27 AM
:eek:UGH Release it now!!!

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 10:28 AM
:eek:UGH Release it now!!!

???

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-04-2008, 10:32 AM
sorry I am becoming impatient :D

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 10:33 AM
ahah I believed the bomb exploded!:D

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 10:34 AM
well here's the deal on his numbers. It wouldn't really matter if all of his supporters voted for him in the GE. Although I would suspect that he will lose a lot of the pre -Super Tuesday support in light of everything that has come out since.... many of those voters were moderate leaners who got caught up in the media hysteria but might be having second thoughts about him now. My thing is if Clinton supporters (en mass) run screaming from him to the McCain camp then Obama doesn't even stand a chance in November. HE NEEDS US BADLY he'll never get me though... I'm galvanized like a nail LOL I also don't have a major problem with McCain even though I would follow Hillary to the ends... Remember I don't believe he's going to take any States that a Democrat doesn't already take in the GE... that being said I do believe he's lost FL MI and he's going to have difficult time in OH one that is a deal breaker if he loses both OH and FL.... with the GE it's simple math because of winner take all... I think our Primary season needs to be all primary and go back to the winner take all ... it would certainly settle all the problems we just had... the DNC likes it this way because the current rules allow for them to manipulate it.

xfiles
06-04-2008, 10:36 AM
For that matter when have you ever seen any of their cronies down there helping out???? They rail about "whitey" but DO nothing themselves! I don't have publishable words to describe these two!!! Beyond disgusting.


Bill Clinton has worked side by side with Brad Pitt in Louisiana to help rebuild. When have you ever seen either Barack or UG MO helping to do anything?

PhillyGuy1
06-04-2008, 10:36 AM
I read a post that ABC and FOX already have it ! thi is probably Ho and why they have been saying alot of the things that needed said about Obama lately !

I also read that this tape is alover Washinton !
...



BREAKING NEWS: Dean, Pelosi, Reid set Friday deadline for superdelegates' choices, move to force end to Clinton bid.
"With the final primary concluded barely hours before, top Democratic Party leaders in Washington early this morning ratcheted up the pressure to force all remaining uncommitted superdelegates to make their choice of candidate known by Friday -- and thus end the now hopeless, one-time frontrunning campaign of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/dean-pelosi-rei.html

If it is true that the tape is all over Washington then the Pelosi, Reid and Dean must know about it, if not seen it themselves.
If so, we must demand they lose their positions as leaders of the democratic party over this fiasco.


PhillyGuy1

Area504
06-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Do we have any more details about what the tape contains? Is this the "whitey" tape? I can't get on NQ, so I'm wondering what everyone was able to read over there early this morning.

ALL4HILLARY
06-04-2008, 10:38 AM
the media probably covered this also

Wyoming Dem
06-04-2008, 10:39 AM
well here's the deal on his numbers. It wouldn't really matter if all of his supporters voted for him in the GE. Although I would suspect that he will lose a lot of the pre -Super Tuesday support in light of everything that has come out since.... many of those voters were moderate leaners who got caught up in the media hysteria but might be having second thoughts about him now. My thing is if Clinton supporters (en mass) run screaming from him to the McCain camp then Obama doesn't even stand a chance in November. HE NEEDS US BADLY he'll never get me though... I'm galvanized like a nail LOL I also don't have a major problem with McCain even though I would follow Hillary to the ends... Remember I don't believe he's going to take any States that a Democrat doesn't already take in the GE... that being said I do believe he's lost FL MI and he's going to have difficult time in OH one that is a deal breaker if he loses both OH and FL.... with the GE it's simple math because of winner take all... I think our Primary season needs to be all primary and go back to the winner take all ... it would certainly settle all the problems we just had... the DNC likes it this way because the current rules allow for them to manipulate it.
I would like to see the Clinton Campaign (or a wealthy donor(s) Do a mass snailmail to every supporter who contribute asking them whether or not she should take it to Denver. We here are inveterate online people but there are many of her constituents who are not and may not know she is asking for imput. Sadly, I think a lot of folks only get there news from the MSM still naively believing that they report "The Truth" when those of us who search out "The Truth" online know that the MSM never even comes close. I reall think this snailmail would be a good tool to gauge her support for taking them on.

PhillyGuy1
06-04-2008, 10:40 AM
For that matter when have you ever seen any of their cronies down there helping out???? They rail about "whitey" but DO nothing themselves! I don't have publishable words to describe these two!!! Beyond disgusting.

And don't forget while in Chicago when he was supposed to be helping low income people he actually helped his financial backer Antoin "Tony" Rezko get contracts to provide low-income housing and he turned into a slumlord.


PhillyGuy1

xfiles
06-04-2008, 10:40 AM
I just heard on Fox that Obama is supposed to give a speech at a campaign appearance and it's been delayed now 1.5 hrs and they don't know why. Hmmmmmmmm.....

supra5677
06-04-2008, 10:40 AM
send this information to campaign....

PA_Voter
06-04-2008, 10:40 AM
The DVD would have to come out shortly... If it does, could this be Hillary's reason for NOT conceding? Think about it, if MO really ranted about Bill and it becomes public... Hillary would be shocked that MO thinks this way of a Fmr. President and her husband... It may just give her ammunition to fight on? Your thoughts?

Johnf
06-04-2008, 10:41 AM
I hope this tape comes out in the media today

Robin Orlowski
06-04-2008, 10:44 AM
sorry I am becoming impatient :D

Me too. I suspect part of this silence is due to 'media darling' favirotism still occuring.

But we need to get info out--and prevent a HORRIBLE mistake from occuring. There is still time to save America.

Tea toaD
06-04-2008, 10:45 AM
The DVD would have to come out shortly... If it does, could this be Hillary's reason for NOT conceding? Think about it, if MO really ranted about Bill and it becomes public... Hillary would be shocked that MO thinks this way of a Fmr. President and her husband... It may just give her ammunition to fight on? Your thoughts?

She certainly knows about it because I heard her camp and the Repubs were trying to get ahold of it. She is staying in I'm sure because she's not a quitter. Whether the tape comes out or not, she knows we stand behind her. Let O get vetted, that may be enough to drown his chances:cool:

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 10:47 AM
If the media had this tape all along and sat on it, it's b.s.
How can the media continue working and making money if they are so in the tank for one candidate and become a propaganda funnel for him.

Mrs L
06-04-2008, 10:47 AM
I don't have any doubts that the tape is in the hands of the powers that be in the Hillary campaign. Probably loaded into their laptops and used to convince the SDs that they are screwing over the party by voting for this couple to take over the white house. I'd not be surprised that within the next couple of days or one week that the case will be made and there will be a rash of shifts to Hillary. The voting is all over for us at the moment, the only people left to vote are the delegates between now and August;)

Oh Yes, what a wonderful thought!

thank you

Ijane
06-04-2008, 10:48 AM
Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans

Good! Maybe this tape will force the discussion of Odinga and Obama's role in the deaths of over 1200 Kenyans and the displacement of over 300,000.
Michelle doesn't have an inch of room to talk about Africa!


It's curious that AIPAC has been postponed by one hour. Maybe the video shows Michelle ranting about the evils of the Jews and Israel also...And in a perfect world, Barack was threatened that the video would be released while he was speaking this morning to AIPAC..lmao!!

xfiles
06-04-2008, 10:50 AM
Larry Johnson posted on NQ that he might be able to oblige on the tape/DVD from what he had learned in the last hour and that was about 7-8 hours ago!

This is soooooooo frustrating!!! Hurry up!!!!!


I hope this tape comes out in the media today

Kbentleyis
06-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I know we want the DVD shown today and I'm excited. BUT, maybe, the news and media has been warned about the possible riots this could cause.

Remember how the Wright thing was called a "black theology thing" and not to be taken by whites as offensive? That this is normal?

However, this would not fall in that "normal" range and there could be major backlashes, especially if SDs and delegates start to defect rapidly. Would this be another 60's riot in every major city? What could happen in the fallout? Some things I'm sure has been taken into consideration by higher powers than the DNC or GOP.

I'm just throwing these thoughts out there.

Mrs L
06-04-2008, 10:54 AM
A Statement by Democratic Leaders on the End of the
Presidential Primary Process
Washington D.C. - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, DGA
Chairman Joe Manchin and DNC Chairman Howard Dean today issued the following statement:
"We have come to the end of an exciting primary and caucus process - the voters have
spoken. As the Democratic leaders of the Senate, House of Representatives, the Governors
and the Democratic National Committee we commend all of the participants of the 2008
primary process, especially Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, for making this such a
transformational election. Because of the enthusiasm our candidates have inspired, our party
has brought record numbers of voters to the polls, gained millions of newly registered
Democrats and now has advantages in states many thought were difficult to win. We are
grateful to the millions of Independents and Republicans who have crossed over to vote for a
Democratic candidate for President.
"Democrats must now turn our full attention to the general election. To that end, we are
urging all remaining uncommitted super delegates to make their decisions known by Friday of
this week so that our party can stand united and begin our march toward reversing the eight
years of failed Bush/McCain policies that have weakened our country.
"We once again congratulate all of the candidates for their leadership and dedication to
providing this country with a New Direction. We look forward to working with them and with
all Democrats to win the White House, congressional seats and state capitals so we can deliver
the change the American people deserve and demand."
# # #

Patricia GA
06-04-2008, 10:58 AM
I know we want the DVD shown today and I'm excited. BUT, maybe, the news and media has been warned about the possible riots this could cause.

Remember how the Wright thing was called a "black theology thing" and not to be taken by whites as offensive? That this is normal?

However, this would not fall in that "normal" range and there could be major backlashes, especially if SDs and delegates start to defect rapidly. Would this be another 60's riot in every major city? What could happen in the fallout? Some things I'm sure has been taken into consideration by higher powers than the DNC or GOP.

I'm just throwing these thoughts out there.

I have a feeliing that Rev Wright and the black theologists are wanting this country divided in a big way. They want the blacks to join them in the rant against whitey. It would make sense as to why they continued to fuel the racism and not be quiet. I believe they want a revolution. We cannot let fear of what might happen let Obama become the nominee. The country must know the truth. NOW please.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 11:01 AM
Good! Maybe this tape will force the discussion of Odinga and Obama's role in the deaths of over 1200 Kenyans and the displacement of over 300,000.
Michelle doesn't have an inch of room to talk about Africa!


It's curious that AIPAC has been postponed by one hour. Maybe the video shows Michelle ranting about the evils of the Jews and Israel also...And in a perfect world, Barack was threatened that the video would be released while he was speaking this morning to AIPAC..lmao!!

Ah yes, forgot about the Odlinga connection.

I am already riled up, but this takes it to the bank.

mjno7777
06-04-2008, 11:02 AM
Good! Maybe this tape will force the discussion of Odinga and Obama's role in the deaths of over 1200 Kenyans and the displacement of over 300,000.
Michelle doesn't have an inch of room to talk about Africa!


It's curious that AIPAC has been postponed by one hour. Maybe the video shows Michelle ranting about the evils of the Jews and Israel also...And in a perfect world, Barack was threatened that the video would be released while he was speaking this morning to AIPAC..lmao!!


I think we need to REMEMBER, it isn't just MICHELE and this tape, there are a host of reasons why OBAMA is unfit. ODINGA is one of those many. We need to tell the media, this tape is just PART of a whole.

jenaset
06-04-2008, 11:03 AM
Someone want to tell me exactly WHEN this tape is coming out? It seems to me that if someone had it, wouldn't it have come out by now!?

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 11:03 AM
I am becoming crazy...WHEN???????:mad:

Tea toaD
06-04-2008, 11:04 AM
A Statement by Democratic Leaders on the End of the
Presidential Primary Process
Washington D.C. - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, DGA
Chairman Joe Manchin and DNC Chairman Howard Dean today issued the following statement:
"We have come to the end of an exciting primary and caucus process - the voters have
spoken. As the Democratic leaders of the Senate, House of Representatives, the Governors
and the Democratic National Committee we commend all of the participants of the 2008
primary process, especially Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, for making this such a
transformational election. Because of the enthusiasm our candidates have inspired, our party
has brought record numbers of voters to the polls, gained millions of newly registered
Democrats and now has advantages in states many thought were difficult to win. We are
grateful to the millions of Independents and Republicans who have crossed over to vote for a
Democratic candidate for President.
"Democrats must now turn our full attention to the general election. To that end, we are
urging all remaining uncommitted super delegates to make their decisions known by Friday of
this week so that our party can stand united and begin our march toward reversing the eight
years of failed Bush/McCain policies that have weakened our country.
"We once again congratulate all of the candidates for their leadership and dedication to
providing this country with a New Direction. We look forward to working with them and with
all Democrats to win the White House, congressional seats and state capitals so we can deliver
the change the American people deserve and demand."
# # #

They are in fear of not being able to unite the party by August:eek: Now using strong arm statements is going to work? Hello...wishful thinking and desperation on their part:cool:

Spagpusher
06-04-2008, 11:06 AM
I don't know if this particular tape exists or not. I do know two things for certain - without a doubt - 100% !! ........

1. Trinity made many tapes.
2. Trinity removed those tapes from public viewing in March.


My question is ... why remove them if they were innocent and would cause harm to no one?

I'd also like to get my hands on those copies of the magazines that suddenly can't be found anywhere either.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 11:09 AM
is being suppressed because of the uprising it could cause???

movingtous
06-04-2008, 11:09 AM
Oh why, oh why did I not take more notice of Trinity United a year ago? I'd be a multi-millionaire right now, sitting on all those scrubbed tapes!:(

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 11:12 AM
but probably couldn't watch them because of the filth.

My guess is that people have the tape of that Rainbow event but never watched it, like so many things we buy or upload and never watch.

Could be that people have this tape and don't know they have it.

Oh why, oh why did I not take more notice of Trinity United a year ago? I'd be a multi-millionaire right now, sitting on all those scrubbed tapes!:(

Alex01
06-04-2008, 11:12 AM
I have to take two daughers to two doctors in two states today (minor problem for each - no worries). I hope the tape has magically appeared when I get back!

I bet Michelle had a doozy of an upbringing. We've heard a lot about BO's crazy childhood. Wonder if there's anything out there about her, in more detail than that she had a father who was a minor Chicago-style politician.

Lodi
06-04-2008, 11:13 AM
I would like to see the Clinton Campaign (or a wealthy donor(s) Do a mass snailmail to every supporter who contribute asking them whether or not she should take it to Denver. We here are inveterate online people but there are many of her constituents who are not and may not know she is asking for imput. Sadly, I think a lot of folks only get there news from the MSM still naively believing that they report "The Truth" when those of us who search out "The Truth" online know that the MSM never even comes close. I reall think this snailmail would be a good tool to gauge her support for taking them on.

Maybe Mr. Sciafe (sp?), the PA publisher and former Hillary hater now turned big-time admirer, would fund this effort?

hejiranyc
06-04-2008, 11:13 AM
I think Hillary's appearance in New York last night pretty much said it all for me- there's something going on. I have seen a crestfallen Hillary (after the NC and IN primaries, where even Bill and Chelsea were down), and I have seen a jubilant Hillary (after the WV primary). Hillary was feisty and resolute last night; she was not making nice with anybody or in any way conceding that she lost. And Hillary's decision not to make an immediate decision about her next steps pretty much confirms this; she may as well have said, "Obama, enjoy this while it lasts." If this Michelle tape is not giving her some newfound sense of purpose, then perhaps there is something else even more scandalous that compels her to keep up the fight.

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 11:15 AM
Now I must leave pc...I am becoming crazy I want to cry again...>Lately I cried too much!:D
I hope it happens....

PhillyGuy1
06-04-2008, 11:15 AM
It's curious that AIPAC has been postponed by one hour. Maybe the video shows Michelle ranting about the evils of the Jews and Israel also...And in a perfect world, Barack was threatened that the video would be released while he was speaking this morning to AIPAC..lmao!!

And in a more perfect world:

"After Rezko was found guilty on all charges, prosecutors were able to obtain testimony from him in exchange for a reduced sentence that implicated Sen. Barack Obama in political corruption. Federal prosecutors have laid down an indictment against Obama on 10 charges of political corruption."
"The Obama campaign has released this short statement: 'I am suspending my campaign for president effective immediately in order to find the best way to fight these charges ...'"

Hypothetical, FOR NOW.


PhillyGuy1

Lodi
06-04-2008, 11:17 AM
Someone want to tell me exactly WHEN this tape is coming out? It seems to me that if someone had it, wouldn't it have come out by now!?

It's all about timing, I would think, and only the person or group holding the tape would decide this based on their motive for releasing it in the first place. Maybe the GOP doesn't want to run against HRC, so they're holding it until after the convention.

Who the heck knows! And yet, I believe it exists because the Obama campaign released a statement about it, etc.

hejiranyc
06-04-2008, 11:18 AM
but probably couldn't watch them because of the filth.

My guess is that people have the tape of that Rainbow event but never watched it, like so many things we buy or upload and never watch.

Could be that people have this tape and don't know they have it.

I have always found it odd that on all of the broadcast/cable networks, all you see of the Wright and Pfleger footage is the blurry, pixelated stuff they captured from YouTube. Doesn't this stuff exist somewhere in VHS or DVD? They were obviously professionally recorded. I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy afoot to hunt down all copies of the tape, or to have members of TUCC voluntarily destroy their copies; it just makes no sense to me that this is actually a secret.

Ijane
06-04-2008, 11:21 AM
This is the time! Right now! To run that video! Right now while he is speaking at AIPAC!! RIGHT NOW!

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Very disrespectful.

But what else is new???

mjoynaples
06-04-2008, 11:27 AM
I think Hillary's appearance in New York last night pretty much said it all for me- there's something going on. I have seen a crestfallen Hillary (after the NC and IN primaries, where even Bill and Chelsea were down), and I have seen a jubilant Hillary (after the WV primary). Hillary was feisty and resolute last night; she was not making nice with anybody or in any way conceding that she lost. And Hillary's decision not to make an immediate decision about her next steps pretty much confirms this; she may as well have said, "Obama, enjoy this while it lasts." If this Michelle tape is not giving her some newfound sense of purpose, then perhaps there is something else even more scandalous that compels her to keep up the fight.

sooner than later please we have been waiting a long time... let's ask all the women sufferagettes to intercede today on Hillary's behalf and ours for the sake of one person one vote and our DEMOCRACY that is in jeoporardy that through grace of all that is holy and wise and unknown these tapes will be revealed... what is hidden in darkness please bring to the light!!!! come on let's focus, center and PRAY !!!!

Lodi
06-04-2008, 11:37 AM
sooner than later please we have been waiting a long time... let's ask all the women sufferagettes to intercede today on Hillary's behalf and ours for the sake of one person one vote and our DEMOCRACY that is in jeoporardy that through grace of all that is holy and wise and unknown these tapes will be revealed... what is hidden in darkness please bring to the light!!!! come on let's focus, center and PRAY !!!!

Sounds good to me. Focus, center, invoke the Light.

I needed a reminder. Thanks! :)

hejiranyc
06-04-2008, 11:40 AM
sooner than later please we have been waiting a long time... let's ask all the women sufferagettes to intercede today on Hillary's behalf and ours for the sake of one person one vote and our DEMOCRACY that is in jeoporardy that through grace of all that is holy and wise and unknown these tapes will be revealed... what is hidden in darkness please bring to the light!!!! come on let's focus, center and PRAY !!!!

I loved David Yurgen's (sp??) reaction to Hillary's speech last night on CNN- he just about soiled his Depends. He lambasted her for giving such a defiant, non-unifying speech. And Gloria Borger was just beside herself with shock.

I have never been prouder of our girl. :D

jenaset
06-04-2008, 11:43 AM
If this tape exists, WHERE IS IT? I want to BELIEVE this, but I find it amazing that it hasn't been posted. If Hillary had it, WHY, in the name of all thats holy, didn't she put it out - or have it put out BEFORE? For that matter, why does this feel like some ethereal hope being perpetrated on us? I was at the RBC meeting with my mother on Saturday, and believe me, I AM FURIOUS! However, realistically speaking, if someone has it they need to "Put Up or Shut Up"

memphis
06-04-2008, 11:45 AM
MO is angry because she is BLACK.

Kbentleyis
06-04-2008, 11:47 AM
Patricia GA, you're right! What the hell do we have to be afraid of.

I just am old and afraid. I remember the 60s like it was yesterday. My dad was a Chicago fireman. When fires broke out his unit was dispatched to a well known black panthers neighborhood. His truck and fellow firefighters were being shot at, and luckily a bullet went through my dad's wet coat and missed his leg. He was captain and ordered all units to pull out, 3 firefighters were critically injured. His words over the radio was "let the no good bastards burn." It was like a war on the streets.

Screw it! Get the DVD out now!

GOHillary08
06-04-2008, 11:47 AM
From what I've read, the "tape" is in the hands of Republicans. They don't really need it. They have already proven that they can fix the vote for their candidate (remember Florida?) so they may just be using the tape as a teaser and letting some of the Dems take a glimpse. I know, I know - this whole mess with people wearing BO blinders has me jaded.

TeejDee
06-04-2008, 11:47 AM
I wouldn't say that. But I think she definitely knows she has the upper hand.


Thats what we think, She knows something or she would have conceded last night.. Her and Bill will just wait a day or two until the bomb drops on BO, then she will get the nomination.


YouTube - The Gap Band - You Dropped The Bomb On Me

mooaks
06-04-2008, 11:49 AM
Larry Johnson said about seeing the tape by one of his commenter's : Patience.

I would not want to see the tape until the campaign has the chance to show it to SDs. Too much can happen when tapes are made available to the General public (we are the general public) before it is used in a helpful way. Larry says:
Patience, I say I will be patient. ;)

philmwri
06-04-2008, 11:49 AM
I'm black but i'm not angry like she is.She had a better life than i did.She went to Ivy league school and had the best education.Most blacks have had it worse than her.She needs to stop complaining.Obama was raised by wealthy whites so i don't know why he feels like America has treated him wrong.

Lodi
06-04-2008, 11:52 AM
MO is angry because she is BLACK.

Interesting assertion. Let's see, we possibly have a self-hating black woman married to a self-hating homosexual. Two people who might be inauthentic to their very core.

What good or truth can come from that perspective?

On a related note, I did read that MO was always bitter about being a bad test taker in school and always feeling a little behind in the very good schools she attended. She has, reportedly, a chip on her shoulder about the whole thing.

joeysky18
06-04-2008, 11:53 AM
The Clinton are too good to use the tape. Hillary will never use it.

The same way that she never brought up Rev. Wright. If we knew about Wright in Nov-07, BO would never win IA.

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 11:54 AM
If they don't use it...what will they do???

Jayling
06-04-2008, 11:55 AM
/mod hat on

Merged yet again...

TeejDee
06-04-2008, 11:58 AM
The Clinton are too good to use the tape. Hillary will never use it.

The same way that she never brought up Rev. Wright.


We agree she knows about it though and maybe other things. But it wont come from her camp.

Lodi
06-04-2008, 11:59 AM
I'm black but i'm not angry like she is.She had a better life than i did.She went to Ivy league school and had the best education.Most blacks have had it worse than her.She needs to stop complaining.Obama was raised by wealthy whites so i don't know why he feels like America has treated him wrong.

And I'd add that in today's world, middle class people of all races have had it rough. Even outright poverty knows no color or ethnicity anymore. The only thing I inherited was my little brother, who has Down syndrome! :)

Could you imagine MO or BO dealing with something like that! Good Lord, lucky people, get a perspective already, and be grateful!

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 11:59 AM
Now I must leave pc...I am becoming crazy I want to cry again...>Lately I cried too much!:D
I hope it happens....

Go have a shot of Limoncello it'll take the edge off In fact I'll drink some with you I have two bottles I brought back from your area .... :-)

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 12:01 PM
And I'd add that in today's world, middle class people of all races have had it rough. Even outright poverty knows no color or ethnicity anymore. The only thing I inherited was my little brother, who has Down syndrome! :)

Could you imagine MO or BO dealing with something like that! Good Lord, lucky people, get a perspective already, and be grateful!

OH YEAH I figure BO would take his cue from Uncle Teddy's clan and send the brother to an "institution" and not acknowledge that they existed like they did with their own sibling.... talk about compassionate Democrats! LOL

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 12:21 PM
Thats what we think, She knows something or she would have conceded last night.. Her and Bill will just wait a day or two until the bomb drops on BO, then she will get the nomination.


YouTube - The Gap Band - You Dropped The Bomb On Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXUgtEe99ZY)

;) heehee...

I can't wait... we've been patient for months... we can wait a few hours.

Area504
06-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Takes alot of nerve to be so late for such an important speech--Very disrespectful.

But what else is new???

He doesn't give a rat's ass about those people! I can't find a single comment that Obama has made that would make me think he has an ounce of respect for AIPAC. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Vici57
06-04-2008, 12:27 PM
I found on another blog that the word is Rudy Giulliani was the one that acquired the tape. But since it was on sale of TUCC, there should lots of people with copies.

freespirit
06-04-2008, 12:27 PM
They are in fear of not being able to unite the party by August:eek: Now using strong arm statements is going to work? Hello...wishful thinking and desperation on their part:cool:

Right! They could use the National Guard, and they will never have unity. If they want it, and love the Dem Party enough to sacrifice for it, then they all need to resign from it. If they get the hell out, maybe some of us would get back in it.

agalfromcal4hill
06-04-2008, 12:28 PM
any news on this yet????

philmwri
06-04-2008, 12:36 PM
I wish someone hurry up and get the tape out.Because when America sees that Michelle Obama thinks like that they will finally be able to connect the dots and will see what a nasty goon Obama is.

Tea toaD
06-04-2008, 12:42 PM
Tick tock. I"m beginning to think someone is yanking our chains:mad:

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 12:45 PM
Tick tock. I"m beginning to think someone is yanking our chains:mad:

while I think something is out there I wouldn't sit here all day and worry about it..... a watched pot never boils! LOL

Besides we can bank on this soley.... although IF the sh*t hits the fan I will try LOL

philmwri
06-04-2008, 12:45 PM
Bob Beckel seems to think it's true.He said that because of this Hillary will become the nominee.If he believes it then i do do.For bob to say that is shocking because he loves Obama.

DeLana
06-04-2008, 12:46 PM
What's the delay? If the tape/DVD was sold on Trinity "Church's" website, there should be many copies out there... and not just Reps (who benefit from sitting on it) should have it!

DeLana :D

P.S. Hmm... what will the spinmeisters do with this? Besides "whitey" is really "why'd he", they could try temporary insanity of MO - maybe a crazy first lady is more acceptable than a racist one? :eek:

Patricia GA
06-04-2008, 12:47 PM
Hey if you remember watergate it took some time. So videogate will take some time. Be patient. The leak will drive this but it is not like fast food. I want it out there too so bad, but we got to let the pressures work. The valcano will errupt!

LucyTN
06-04-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm black but i'm not angry like she is.She had a better life than i did.She went to Ivy league school and had the best education.Most blacks have had it worse than her.She needs to stop complaining.Obama was raised by wealthy whites so i don't know why he feels like America has treated him wrong.I agree with you. I'm white and lived in a two room house with no electricity and no plumbing. That was a long time ago. I'm not angry and in fact feel very confident that I could make do again if it ever became necessary. I don't think I even knew what an Ivy league school was until I was in my twenties. To us, junior college was a dream. Whatever chip Michelle has on her shoulder, she needs to get over it. Her life is what SHE makes of it.

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 01:20 PM
I agree with you. I'm white and lived in a two room house with no electricity and no plumbing. That was a long time ago. I'm not angry and in fact feel very confident that I could make do again if it ever became necessary. I don't think I even knew what an Ivy league school was until I was in my twenties. To us, junior college was a dream. Whatever chip Michelle has on her shoulder, she needs to get over it. Her life is what SHE makes of it.

My Dad slept in a closet since he had six brothers and sisters not to mention his parents who worked multiple jobs. I don't think MO ever slept in a closet.

emmyCA
06-04-2008, 01:22 PM
MO cannot be first lady..She desn't have any of all required qualification of a First Lady of America

GOHillary08
06-04-2008, 01:30 PM
MO cannot be first lady..She desn't have any of all required qualification of a First Lady of America

Agreed! One of those missing qualifications? She's no LADY.

Hillarysmygirl08
06-04-2008, 01:31 PM
Well something is happening but I still think she is leaning Third Party. That doesn't mean she is going to use it to clinch the nomination though I think she is planning to use that as her "October Surprise" That is the best time to use that sort of information. I just don't see her using it to secure the nomination because that could backfire on the Clintons. If she uses it to clinch the nomination she will use it at the Convention however I think she is wasting her time trying to clinch this nomination and I think she knows that.

Patricia GA
06-04-2008, 01:33 PM
I agree with you. I'm white and lived in a two room house with no electricity and no plumbing. That was a long time ago. I'm not angry and in fact feel very confident that I could make do again if it ever became necessary. I don't think I even knew what an Ivy league school was until I was in my twenties. To us, junior college was a dream. Whatever chip Michelle has on her shoulder, she needs to get over it. Her life is what SHE makes of it.

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

MO may not have been this angry until she sat in the pew year after year and was indoctrinated. She may have had these leanings of being angry and the venom the church was teaching took deep roots as she heard it preached. Or she may have been angry from the get go and just found her place to spread her anger with the rest of them. I think this is scary stuff. We need level heads in the white house and ones that embrace democracy for all and do not play the blame game.

GOHillary08
06-04-2008, 01:34 PM
another thing that helped him is his girls can you believe him they are so yound and to pull them off from school if they are in school to campaign with him that is just unfait. He wanted to get attention for doing that

He's done his children many injustices - like exposing them to racist religious experiences, and what on earth must be contained in the family's language when they are alone????

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 01:42 PM
He's done his children many injustices - like exposing them to racist religious experiences, and what on earth must be contained in the family's language when they are alone????


Not only that but to subject your kids to potential scandals
like possible public knowledge of homosexual acts/drug use and a publically known racist mother........ those poor girls of theirs are in for a rough ride! This isn't about them though this is about MOM AND DAD and they could care less about the fall out for their kids! Shows what sort of parents they are...

CQ4Hillary
06-04-2008, 01:48 PM
they might be showing it to supers in private trying to avoid public humiliation for the "annointed one"?

I mean they wouldn't want to put it out there dem's exposing dems.

They would be saying that we aren't putting it out but others have it and the GOP WILL put it out. I can hear Hillary and Bill in my head. "We have to save the party! We can't have this coming out. If he's not the nominee they won't bother with it. They'll never give him a free pass on this one. We need to win for the country and the party!" :D:o:D:o

OK I know I'm getting a bit carried away but still the scenario is somewhat plausable to me.

Carolyn
06-04-2008, 01:51 PM
Yahoooooo!
I just sent this to Jodi Kantor and Kate Phillips at the New York Times, in case they missed it! Please Lord, oh please, oh please

Kaylin
06-04-2008, 01:54 PM
I don't think any news outlet, agency, or network has this video. if they did they'd break the story because otherwise they risk not being first to break it.

I think a republican partisan has it. that's the only explanation for a release that's timed to best strategic advantage. the best strategic advantage for repubs is to wait until Obama has the nomination signed sealed and delivered and after the Clinton delegates have been released and her campaign organization disbanded. Obviously she would become the nominee but Dems would have to scramble to pull a campaign together.

mooaks
06-04-2008, 01:56 PM
they might be showing it to supers in private trying to avoid public humiliation for the "annointed one"?

I mean they wouldn't want to put it out there dem's exposing dems.

They would be saying that we aren't putting it out but others have it and the GOP WILL put it out. I can hear Hillary and Bill in my head. "We have to save the party! We can't have this coming out. If he's not the nominee they won't bother with it. They'll never give him a free pass on this one. We need to win for the country and the party!" :D:o:D:o

OK I know I'm getting a bit carried away but still the scenario is somewhat plausable to me.

Hey! that's right on target in my book. Remember when she said something about his slum landlord Rezko during one of the earlier debates?? A few boos were thrown her way.;)

MaryKay
06-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Folks. I don't mean to poop on the party here. You know I'm a huge Hillary supporter and I wish this was true. But I've read all accounts here, and I don't think there is a tape. I believe it's an Internet rumor that caught hold and that's why everyone who's come out with some of the facts are not being more detailed. If there was a tape, money talks and it would be out there.:(

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 02:37 PM
Folks. I don't mean to poop on the party here. You know I'm a huge Hillary supporter and I wish this was true. But I've read all accounts here, and I don't think there is a tape. I believe it's an Internet rumor that caught hold and that's why everyone who's come out with some of the facts are not being more detailed. If there was a tape, money talks and it would be out there.:(

WELL THEN DONT POOP ON US! :-) We're having fun! It's great to let off some steam after a few days of tension! I think we all realize that THERE IS A TAPE (Obama wouldn't have put up a defense to it already if there wasn't) HOWEVER, it's all at the mercy of whoever has it. DAMN WHY DIDN'T I go shopping on Ebay before this Primary to see if anyone was selling their old DVDs from Trinity LOL PLUS if this was a DVD that was sold by that church you know more then one person has it!

Ijane
06-04-2008, 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by MaryKay View Post
Folks. I don't mean to poop on the party here. You know I'm a huge Hillary supporter and I wish this was true. But I've read all accounts here, and I don't think there is a tape. I believe it's an Internet rumor that caught hold and that's why everyone who's come out with some of the facts are not being more detailed. If there was a tape, money talks and it would be out there.


WELL THEN DONT POOP ON US! :-) We're having fun!

:D LOL!!

AnnaB
06-04-2008, 02:43 PM
This site has a lot of information about the tape.

http://democrats-against-obama.org/

MaryKay
06-04-2008, 02:47 PM
WELL THEN DONT POOP ON US! :-) We're having fun! It's great to let off some steam after a few days of tension! I think we all realize that THERE IS A TAPE (Obama wouldn't have put up a defense to it already if there wasn't) HOWEVER, it's all at the mercy of whoever has it. DAMN WHY DIDN'T I go shopping on Ebay before this Primary to see if anyone was selling their old DVDs from Trinity LOL PLUS if this was a DVD that was sold by that church you know more then one person has it!

I understand, Scott. :o I too need to blow off steam. I just don't want people to lose focus that we've all still got lots of work to do. The media needs to be reminded that Obama's 59 Michigan delegates aren't legal AND that supers aren't normally "forced" to declare until the convention, and they still can change their mind. Nobody should be declaring him or herself the nominee based on supers, only the delegates he or she won in the primaries and caucuses. Hillary has every right to take this to the convention, if nothing more to get a rules change so it never can happen again. Hillbuzz is backpeddling now. They talked about how they came to their conclusion about when the rant came about by doing a google search, but never confirmed how they know what is on the tape, and they said they haven't seen the tape. It's all based on rumor and speculation and google searches.

I just don't want to see everyone sitting around waiting for a gift that may not even exist, especially when so much work is yet to be done. We have legitimate, legal reasons to keep Hillary in the race to the convention and I think we should all focus on getting that message out. I think it makes her look more reasonable if we say THIS is why she's not making a decision. But, I'll get back to work and leave you all to the party if this is what you want. ;)

Ace
06-04-2008, 02:47 PM
I think I've come across some really incriminating information but I need to do more research before I post my findings.

CQ4Hillary
06-04-2008, 02:54 PM
Hey! that's right on target in my book. Remember when she said something about his slum landlord Rezko during one of the earlier debates?? A few boos were thrown her way.;)

So either I'm not entirely crazy OR I'm not the ONLY one who's crazy! LOL! :D

I think she could be using this in her talks with the supers!

CQ4Hillary
06-04-2008, 02:55 PM
I think I've come across some really incriminating information but I need to do more research before I post my findings.

I have all my fingers crossed! Is it really good???

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 02:55 PM
I think I've come across some really incriminating information but I need to do more research before I post my findings.

I can understand that you'd want more proof before you put it out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 02:56 PM
I think I've come across some really incriminating information but I need to do more research before I post my findings.

ooooooh do share as soon as you can.

bangorgirl
06-04-2008, 02:59 PM
I want to watch bo and co. implode! I just hope it doesn't take too long, imagine what mo will say if that tape is released? Makes one think.

philmwri
06-04-2008, 03:00 PM
Please hurry we need to get the news out fast.

Ace
06-04-2008, 03:02 PM
Clue: The answer(problem) is not within the actual church. It's actually somewhere else. I'm still researching. If anyone has the tape it is ABC and ********* who i'm researching right now.

gnnrg3
06-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Fox?:confused:

Brooke
06-04-2008, 03:12 PM
There has to be a tape. If there wasn't and if it was just a rumor, they would have already said it was a rumor.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 03:13 PM
public humiliation and shame when the tape is released.

BO and CO will spin it every which way--but ya call it what it is--a National Travesty.

If she had ranted 20 some years ago, the spin could have been: I was young, then, but I am an adult, now.

This is the sort of thing that will be painful to watch--but a relief, as well.

Oh, and you'll hear a bunch of crap about Hillary and Bill setting her up.

But she set herself up by putting herself in that position.

I want to watch bo and co. implode! I just hope it doesn't take too long, imagine what mo will say if that tape is released? Makes one think.

bangorgirl
06-04-2008, 03:14 PM
not if they want to hang on to it till oct.

Leekosagrios
06-04-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm hearing it might come out today around 4pm, anyone else heard this too?

philmwri
06-04-2008, 03:20 PM
It's more damaging if you do it now.Look at how Reverend Wright is still damaging him and Reverend Moss is still haunting him.

bangorgirl
06-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Thats why I think they are hanging on to till after the convention or oct.

mukunda22
06-04-2008, 03:22 PM
BO's supporters will just stay at home --they (generally) won't vote McCain--
Of course I have nothing to back this statement up with. LOL!!

But I do believe they will be demoralized--

the more i wait the less hope i have about this tape.

and lets think about something here, this tape may do more damage to Hillary than help. if it comes out and SD's start switching, people (BO supporters, remember there is 18million of them too) will freak and it will be hard for Hillary to win in Nov without his supporters as it will be hard for BO to win without us.

mooaks
06-04-2008, 03:26 PM
So either I'm not entirely crazy OR I'm not the ONLY one who's crazy! LOL! :D

I think she could be using this in her talks with the supers!

She wouldn't, but nothing to stop her campaign legals from presenting the tape on their Laptop computers to the SDs. I can hear them now. Is this for real???
OMG, we're one of the Jonestown bunch. Grrrrrrrrrrr! You damn right I'll back Hillary :D:D

candyrose9460
06-04-2008, 03:28 PM
if she is talking about katrina, it did happen till 8/29/05. so don't think that is the one... look somebody is sitting back and playing this shit. if there is a tape, why do they keep changing the date to release it.

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 03:29 PM
hey, I'm back!:D
:eek:What??? anything?????:eek:When??? I WANT THE TAPE!

deniseds
06-04-2008, 03:29 PM
I am beginning to think the tape will be held for later or it is just talk. Let the MSM talk their BS for a while. You know it will analyzed to death. Everything will settle down then new BO stories will start popping up in the news. One thing I can say for this forum. We helped the media alot by sending them information. Sometimes I was surprised how much I would read here and then see in go mainstream. They were always behind us. Hillary can take a while to relax and meet with her advisors. Let BO talk to the machine for a while. I heard a Republican jokingly say today. Now that the dems have cooled down I am ready. My bitter white self is tired of reading my bible and polishing my gun. Let the Revolution begin. It seemed funny because this person is usually quite introvert. So maybe we just need to be patient and wait for what Hillary decides to do.

Ace
06-04-2008, 03:30 PM
See this thread on my findings.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=14844

The "tape" exists. Its a matter of someone showing it and whether or not MO says racial slurs.

JMS825
06-04-2008, 05:02 PM
If the tape is true what is to say Obama just wont divorce Michelle. Obama always toss people under the bus when he dont need them anymore. Wright, Moss, Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger, Trinity Church, Farrahkhan, Sinclair, Young, His typical white racist g-ma and the list goes on

ScottVA
06-04-2008, 05:03 PM
If the tape is true what is to say Obama just wont divorce Michelle. Obama always toss people under the bus when he dont need them anymore. Wright, Moss, Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger, Trinity Church, Farrahkhan, Sinclair, Young, His typical white racist g-ma and the list goes on

LOL I don't think it would be that simple BUT WHO CAN SAY! haha! Associations can be politically deadly regardless... clearly if she feels this way then he must as well.... they've been married quite a while now! LOL

JMS825
06-04-2008, 05:05 PM
LOL I don't think it would be that simple BUT WHO CAN SAY! haha! Associations can be politically deadly regardless... clearly if she feels this way then he must as well.... they've been married quite a while now! LOL

He married Michelle for political gain cause he needed proof he was black now he is seen as black he dont need her anymore

erasmus
06-04-2008, 05:14 PM
Anyone ever watch the Beckett play, 'Waiting for Godot'? Grrr

Soaring Eagle
06-04-2008, 05:15 PM
It's now 4:18 eastern time and no tape. I think we are being played.:mad:

Angelica91
06-04-2008, 05:16 PM
It's now 4:18 eastern time and no tape. I think we are being played.:mad:
ME TOO!

Ebinger
06-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Re the dvd/tape/whateveritis:

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women’s Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant — his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on “whitey”, and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that’s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who’s seen this.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/04/breaking-news-from-hillbuzz/#more-2922

Just do it, Larry.

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 09:00 PM
Larry's trying to get his hands on the tape since he believes the GOPers are going to try and sit on it... he said he's on it... I hope he's got this it seems Bob scared the GOP yesterday.

Arctic907
06-04-2008, 09:20 PM
There is a "Michelle Obama whitey remark" that was posted on YouTube about two days ago, but I cannot get it to open. Shows 38,764 views. I would guess that it is somebody who wants the hits for the video based on the title.

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 09:30 PM
There is a "Michelle Obama whitey remark" that was posted on YouTube about two days ago, but I cannot get it to open. Show 38,764 views. I would guess that it is somebody who wants the hits for the video based on the title.

Saw that the account is suspended too... talk about overkill.LOL it was just a Rick Roll video.. we're going to have to save the video as soon as it's on.

xfiles
06-04-2008, 09:44 PM
NEWS


I emailed Larry Johnson about 3-4 hours ago and he said he is working to try to get access to the tape (apparently he is close to whomever has a copy--by close I mean closing in).

He said it DOES exist and it is HORRIBLE!

I told him to grant the person who has it sainthood, anonimity, lifetime acheivement award or whatever to get it!

I ask him to keep me posted and haven't heard anything furhter!

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 09:49 PM
maybe tomorrow will bring better news, but today is certainly a dissapointment.

Cricket22
06-04-2008, 09:49 PM
Folks, you may be being led down the path with these constant rumors of a Michelle tape. Just because someone provided a "story" of what was on "the tape" does not mean the tape exists. I think the 'noquarter' bunch has a good scam going. If there were such a tape, it would be out there already. Think about it. Sheesh! [Not that I don't wish for such a tape, but I am reality based.]

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 09:50 PM
:) Yeah posted that on his site too... we have to do the work since the GOP got scared.

JMS825
06-04-2008, 09:54 PM
Folks, you may be being led down the path with these constant rumors of a Michelle tape. Just because someone provided a "story" of what was on "the tape" does not mean the tape exists. I think the 'noquarter' bunch has a good scam going. If there were such a tape, it would be out there already. Think about it. Sheesh! [Not that I don't wish for such a tape, but I am reality based.]

My question is if the tape didnt exist then how was it sold on Rainbow Push site up till last March? Also why would the Obama people release a transcript of a fictional tape?

Eddie3dfx
06-04-2008, 10:05 PM
Folks, you may be being led down the path with these constant rumors of a Michelle tape. Just because someone provided a "story" of what was on "the tape" does not mean the tape exists. I think the 'noquarter' bunch has a good scam going. If there were such a tape, it would be out there already. Think about it. Sheesh! [Not that I don't wish for such a tape, but I am reality based.]

Too many sources from dems and republicans for it not to exist.
When Beckel says it's coming and he is a staunch Obama supporter, it's coming.
He hates Hillary with a passion

Bacio83
06-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Someone went to Rainbow/Push...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2025964/posts

Rainbow/PUSH may not have a copy of the 2004 Michelle Obama Panel
Volokh Conspiracy ^ | June 4, 2008 | Jim Lindgren

Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:38:37 PM by FreedomFlyer

As many of you know, there has been an ever-shifting intenet rumor launched publicly by an extremely unreliable pro-Clinton blogger, Larry Johnson, that there is a video recording of Michelle Obama saying some intemperate things at Trinity United Church. ...

Until today, the rumors have been too vague to be debunked, but now . . . a specific conference for the remarks has been specified: the 2004 Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Annual Conference starting on June 26, 2004.

To get the information necessary to put this matter to bed, I drove over to the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition National Headquarters, which is in the opposite corner of my Hyde-Park/Kenwood neighborhood. I spoke with Robert (Bobby) Lewis, Director of Studio Services, who apparently handles the recordings of events. He said that the recording of events from 2005 and earlier was farmed out and most or all of the existing recordings (listed on the website) had not been conveyed in-house to the National Headquarters. He said that he did not know if the organization had a recording of the 2004 conference. In response to my more specific question, he said that the one-hour Saturday broadcasts on the 2004 Annual Conference (June 26, 2004, and July 2, 2004), which are listed on the website for purchase, are not available, since they come from the earlier outsourced period.

I was very surprised when he informed me that I was the first person to have contacted them about this matter. Given the furor on the internet, I suspect that many of you are skeptical about this claim, but he really seemed in the dark. He wanted to know the name of the website that had the story about the conference. And at first, he thought I was talking about an event where Barack, not Michelle, had appeared.

Ebinger
06-04-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm sure this thing exists - too much detail to be a hoax.

Not sure if Rainbow/PUSH has it now, but somebody does, I bet, if the price is right.;)

AdrienneJ
06-04-2008, 10:17 PM
That post is by "freedomflyer" who does not have a profile listed under their name. Anyone who calls Larry Johnson "unreliable" is pretty much unreliable themselves. So, I can't give that post any credibility.

As for no one having asked for the tape... that is certainly ludicrous. Everybody is asking for the tape. My aunti Minnie would be doing it (if I had an aunti Minnie).

Ijane
06-04-2008, 10:17 PM
I'm SURE it exists also!!!

I emailed Larry Johnson about 3-4 hours ago and he said he is working to try to get access to the tape (apparently he is close to whomever has a copy--by close I mean closing in).


I like Larry. I emailed him once about something and he was so gracious to email back. I trust!

Annie
06-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Public Outrage, folks--

That will be what seals the deal.

MO is just not fit to be First lady and every one will see it.

The only people who will care are the Republicans and the people who are already in Hillary's camp - US and others like us. Obama's supporters don't care. He could come on out with horns sticking out of his head between his ears and they would still call him the savior..... And the DNC have obviously sold their souls to him.

I am shocked at the representatives for Hillary who were on Lou Dobbs regarding the whole schmiel on Saturday.. a bearded Barack supporter and a fat white woman who voted for the half votes... Now that woman was a rep for Hillary - so what was that about?

mukunda22
06-05-2008, 12:09 AM
And Will catch The World On Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will have to step down--and all of us will have to work like hell to push this point down everyone's throats.

hillaryhoosier
06-05-2008, 12:14 AM
I think Bob made the announcement on purpose to scare the GOP and also to get Obama's people working on supressing it.

Bacio83
06-05-2008, 12:44 AM
I think Bob made the announcement on purpose to scare the GOP and also to get Obama's people working on supressing it.

Yup. And now Larry is trying to get his hands on another copy for us. They say if you want something done right you got to do it yourself.

no_more_bush
06-05-2008, 12:54 AM
Doesn't Michelle look like Omarosa from The Apprentice?

hejiranyc
06-05-2008, 12:57 AM
Doesn't Michelle look like Omarosa from The Apprentice?

I was thinking she was like a more sinister version of Condi.

LadyVT
06-05-2008, 05:21 AM
The only people who will care are the Republicans and the people who are already in Hillary's camp - US and others like us. Obama's supporters don't care. He could come on out with horns sticking out of his head between his ears and they would still call him the savior..... And the DNC have obviously sold their souls to him.

I am shocked at the representatives for Hillary who were on Lou Dobbs regarding the whole schmiel on Saturday.. a bearded Barack supporter and a fat white woman who voted for the half votes... Now that woman was a rep for Hillary - so what was that about?

Yes--only the Repubs will care and we will care. But BO HAS to win some of us over in order to win the nomination, period.

That's why he's going to lose big time.

mjno7777
06-05-2008, 10:53 AM
I was thinking she was like a more sinister version of Condi.

YES OMAROSA.

HILLARYCLINTONRULES
06-05-2008, 11:17 AM
Michelle Obama does remind me of Omarosa from The Apprentice :(

mjoynaples
06-05-2008, 11:23 AM
Doesn't Michelle look like Omarosa from The Apprentice?

the idea of these two people in the white house the whole thing is pathetic... I sit here in utter disbelief that the DNC has done this the RBC has added insult to injury and I would never have imagined that we would be in worse shape than GWB how is this possible??? oh yeah, let's thank George Soros, MSNBC, all the LOSERS on the show, CNN and BO himself for being such a fake AMERICAN it is frightening... we need to expose GSoros and his money links and get this out there so the average American gets these connections... WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING everyone is going to think it is over! SHE IS GOING TO DENVER!

Eddie3dfx
06-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Omarossa is much better looking than Michelle Obama.

sisterrosetta
06-05-2008, 12:04 PM
The Michelle Obama Diversion
By Larry Johnson on June 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/04/the-michelle-obama-diversion-2/

I learned last week that Republicans have a tape of Michelle in a racist rant. She does so while part of a panel discussion. I do not know where this occurred. And the specific date is not known either. BuzzHill offered up his view earlier today but I have not confirmed one way or another.

At no time have I claimed to have the tape or promised to deliver said tape. In fact, I reported that Republicans working on behalf of McCain are desperate to keep this under wraps until Obama is formally nominated in August. Got it?

I believe my sources and believe the tape will appear after August and before November.

Vici57
06-05-2008, 12:26 PM
This is bullshit! I don't know what Larry is trying to pull here but enough about the Michelle Obama tape. With 8000 members in the church, you would think someone would have it that doesn't like Michelle. I can't imagine that everyone in this church have a love for her! I am tired of being just left hanging. If there was any tape at all, the news media would have already found a copy. :mad:

wasGOPnowInd
06-05-2008, 12:28 PM
enough already about this stupid (and apparently non-existent) tape.

mukunda22
06-05-2008, 12:37 PM
Larry's working on it--and probably with out sleep--

And take it from a nightshift worker--lack of sleep can be ugly.

Or ask Murray!! He'll tell ya the same thing!!!

LOL!!

foxyladi
06-05-2008, 12:38 PM
enough already about this stupid (and apparently non-existent) tape.

YEAH WHAT THEY SAID

BooskerD
06-05-2008, 12:42 PM
I believe the tape exists...I also believe it's not in the best interest of the republicans to reveal the tape until after August. The tape will have a lot more impact right before November. As for Larry Johnson, if you read the article carefully, he never said he was going to obtain and show the tape on his site.

I can't wait until August!

Calico
06-05-2008, 12:49 PM
If there is a tape out there and someone was able to acquire it, it would stand to reason that other people may be able to acquire it.

If the Republicans have the tape, it also would stand to reason, that they would hold onto it until after August. Especially, since so many Hillary supporters are moving to McCain. Why would they want to stop that?

Of course, the Republicans could do the right thing and release the tape. Anyone who cares about the Nation, should not take even the smallest chance (and there is always a chance as long as he is the nominee) that Obama will be President, not even the Republicans should take this chance. Obama is one scary "dude."

With that said, let us all support Hillary and try to find out anything we can on Obama and spread it to the media, blogs, etc.!

Bacio83
06-05-2008, 12:51 PM
enough already about this stupid (and apparently non-existent) tape.

Come on guys, for some of us this is fun. There's so many threads out there pick another one. For us this is like a Where's Waldo puzzle.

BooskerD
06-05-2008, 12:58 PM
Come on guys, for some of us this is fun. There's so many threads out there pick another one. For us this is like a Where's Waldo puzzle.

Yes. Don't rain on our "whitey-gate" parade! :)

sisterrosetta
06-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Thursday, June 05, 2008
A reading from the Obama Scriptures for June 5, 2008.


All the People the Lord Did Not Knew
From Axelrod's Letter to the Arugulas


http://www.liberalrapture.com/2008/06/reading.html

Reading ends as follows:

And the Lord's wife insulted the White Tribe
And the masses did wonder - What manner of wife is this?

And the Lord said:
This is not the Wife I knew.
My grandma was White
etc. etc.
respect my authori- tay!

And the underside of the bus did runneth over.

Later, the Lord went out back to sneaketh a smoke.



The Word of the Lord.

Bacio83
06-05-2008, 02:21 PM
^^^ Thanks be to gah!

underpaidnurse
06-05-2008, 03:39 PM
She looks like a muppet prototype on steroids

wasGOPnowInd
06-05-2008, 03:43 PM
Yes. Don't rain on our "whitey-gate" parade! :)

as most of you know, i like to have fun (see my threads from yesterday). but, it is not so fun to continually raise our hopes only to have nothing happen.

Bacio83
06-05-2008, 04:05 PM
as most of you know, i like to have fun (see my threads from yesterday). but, it is not so fun to continually raise our hopes only to have nothing happen.

Trust me when and if the tape comes out there's going to be so many threads with it, this one is now just an update thread of us trying to get more information out. I'm sorry you feel that way, I look at it as more of a speculative and collaborative thread.

Soaring Eagle
06-05-2008, 04:08 PM
It's like someone is playing games with us about this "tape".