Latest Alert From FOX/CNN/ABC (6/4/08) - saying that Hillary will SUSPEND her campaign later this week...

[reddirtgirl]

Just reported on Fox news. But we all know how unreliable news networks are.

[jenaset]

All News Organizations Saying 'breaking News' Hillary To Concede On Friday! I Just Gave Ten More Dollars! What Is Going On????

[lucky-ann]

they said the same about yesterday, didn't they?

[eyedoc333]

All News Organizations Saying 'breaking News' Hillary To Concede On Friday! I Just Gave Ten More Dollars! What Is Going On????

I don't believe anything unless I hear it from Hillary herself.

[hillaryhoosier]

It's probably true. They are pressuring supers to all come out for Obama, and they are really wanting her out of the way so he can for sure get the nod.

If she doesn't concede she hurts her chances in the Senate, so I think she kind of has to.

[Bloomer]

reporting the same thing.....WTF!!!

[ssmith]

F**K THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello President Mccain!

[lucky-ann]

what the hell is their source???

[hillaryhoosier]

She had a conference call with democratic insiders today and told them it was time for her to help unite the party so she was conceeding on Friday.

A campaign advisor leaked the story.

[Mrsawd]

They Said That Is What They Would Like To See And That Is What They Believe Should Happen
But So Far Nothing From Hillary

[Florida Dawn]

On Friday? Is this true? Or another rumer? BTW, on Friday, it's 40 years that Bobby was shot.

[Mrsawd]

Ok Now They Are Saying She Is Suspending The Campaign

[hillguy08]

We have to hear it officially from the campaign to believe anything.

[ShyFire]

SUSPENDING her campaign on Friday. Not conceding.

[RAFREE]

NOT LEAVING. Suspending her campaign for a while...till the convention!

[Bloomer]

DAMN! I think I'm going to be sick now!

[Mrsawd]

They Are Not Saying Conceding She Is Suspended Her Campaign

[Jayling]

/mod hat on

Triple Merge!

Please look for similar topics before starting a new one. Thanks from the Mods.

Jayling

[Bloomer]

NOT LEAVING. Suspending her campaign for a while...till the convention!

Are you sure about this?

[gnnrg3]

Yes

[Leekosagrios]

PLease confirm whether it's concede or suspend. If she's forced to concede, I need to register Republican ASAP.

[Eridon]

Today is Wed., June 4th, I just heard Katie Curic show Hillary, and say that she is not doing anything except rest and think for the next day or so, and that she has "not" conceded. Also, O. was described as the "presumptive" candidate -- and he has been talking to McCain for what seems like a long time, even though Hillary was sweeping state after state.

It's pretty easy to get confused, when we know this, and the media is full of sh*t, but they keep it up.

My policy is, don't believe the media. ONLY believe Hillary, directly, or people on this site, who can state their sources.

[Bless]

She need to protect herself for 2012 if she don’t ggo gracefully she might have more enemy for 2012, so let us show our support by voting McCain

[Brooke]

I just saw this. They're saying she's SUSPENDING her campaign. This was expected. Especially after they said the SDs had to declare by Friday.

[reddirtgirl]

Makes me wonder if McCain has spoken to her about being on his ticket?? I mean, she can't very well continue on her current path and do that too.

[Mrsawd]

Lost Signal Now Raining So Hard In Pa

[Musicdude]

Im sure Hillary will place herself in a position to be the reserve nominee, just in case. This is all part of the chess game before the convention. Obama is no longer protected by the Democratic race in the meantime.

[Tea toaD]

This will give her time to regroup. Let O get in trouble. He already is so she is just waiting it out and keeping her delegates.

[ProudClintoniteMI]

Yep, she's just suspending it. I was having a discussion about this earlier and I mean this is definitely the most logical right now.

[Eridon]

She needs time to think, period. There's still a lot suspended, not just her campaign. Supers' votes do NOT count until August.

She's under pressure, but has not conceded. What's new about that?

[hillguy08]

PLease confirm whether it's concede or suspend. If she's forced to concede, I need to register Republican ASAP.

Well, we'll have to wait for her campaign to confirm this.

Makes me wonder if McCain has spoken to her about being on his ticket?? I mean, she can't very well continue on her current path and do that too.

Do you actually believe with all your heart that Hillary is going to be McCain's vp? Unrealistic, that's what I think.

[PA_Voter]

PLEASE... Let's wait until we Hillary say it. In the meantime, blog away for her to stay in it and go to the Credentials meeting and then DENVER.... There's not much time, so if you want to weigh in, GO TO HER SITE AND WEIGH IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

[joeysky18]

they said the same about yesterday, didn't they?

Exactly!

Have we learn yesterday that all the breaking news were all lies?

[reddirtgirl]

Fox said she was conceeding, that doesn't make it so, was just reporting what they said. She could very well be suspending, but that's not what they reported. I suspected all along that she would suspend until the convention, so this is a shock to me if true. Suspending would stop the financial hemorrhage, yet keep her in the race.

[spdubois]

oK -- as soon as she offically does this -- we all go to www.democrat.org
fill out a voter registration form
change your party to republican / green / etc party

[Etherplain]

If she uses the word "Concede" then she's done. If she instead simply says she's suspending her campain, that gives her an option come the convention. If BO slips up between now and then, she'll pounce. ....and we'll be right behind her.

[RAFREE]

SUSPENDING her campaign on Friday. Not conceding.


EXACTLY!! She will suspend and wait with her delegates all in a row...wait quietly while the republicans go to work on Obama....then she can make a case in August still. Let them all think what they want or say what they want right now. This is a SMART, SMART thing for her to do right now. They will ignore her for two months while she works quietly behind the scenes and makes a showing in Denver.

The report is not that she is leaving...suspending. John Edwards did this when he first stopped campaigning...it's okay.

[lakerchick4life]

She is SUSPENDING her campaign NOT conceding

[ssmith]

SOMEONE TELL ME.. SUSPENDING OR CONCEDING????????


I had always guessed she would suspend. denver is 3.5 months away.. she has 40M for the general>>>

[CA Girl]

If Hillary wants to suspend her campaign that is fine. Seems like that is what Ron Paul is doing so he still stands a chance.
I heard on Fox however, that OB is blackmailing her with threats of releasing some papers on the Clinton Library.
It is also a ploy to get all of us on board with the party that just kicked us in the teeth.
I will be changing parties.......

[Brooke]

SOMEONE TELL ME.. SUSPENDING OR CONCEDING????????


I had always guessed she would suspend. denver is 3.5 months away.. she has 40M for the general>>>

Supseneding! Read the whole thread before freaking out.

[tcbwriter]

I just got an email alert from CNN:

Sen. Hillary Clinton will officially end her campaign for the presidency by the end of the week, multiple sources tell CNN.



:(

[deniseds]

Fox said she was conceeding, that doesn't make it so, was just reporting what they said. She could very well be suspending, but that's not what they reported. I suspected all along that she would suspend until the convention, so this is a shock to me if true. Suspending would stop the financial hemorrhage, yet keep her in the race.

Can we still send her money or does it go to the DNC?

[Brooke]

If Hillary wants to suspend her campaign that is fine. Seems like that is what Ron Paul is doing so he still stands a chance.
I heard on Fox however, that OB is blackmailing her with threats of releasing some papers on the Clinton Library.
It is also a ploy to get all of us on board with the party that just kicked us in the teeth.
I will be changing parties.......

No, that's not what they said. I just saw that. They simply said if BO picks her as VP, she'd be asked about the foundation. But that's not blackmail.

I'm all for criticizing Obama, but can we please get our news straight before making accusations?

[AdrienneJ]

Moderators, please get rid of this f-ing thread. We don't listen to any one but Hillary about what her moves are. Stop this crap.

[ScottVA]

It's probably true. They are pressuring supers to all come out for Obama, and they are really wanting her out of the way so he can for sure get the nod.

If she doesn't concede she hurts her chances in the Senate, so I think she kind of has to.

She DOESNT HAVE TO CONCEDE anything even if every Super came out to endorse Bambi...... Thats the beauty of her position........AND I DONT SEE how that hurts her in the Senate.... Nothing gets done right now anyway over Summer..... I think it makes her look weak if she drops and he really doesn't have the pledged delegate count.... Do you realize that the Supers MAY NOT even come to be needed at the Convention? LOL THey only get involved if endless voting cant produce a nominee!
I would believe it when I see it! She could just concede now if she wanted to rather then wait........ UNLESS she knows something between now and Friday. Did you guys ever think she knows more about this supposed Bomb then we know.... this could all be a distancing act by her to appear vulnerable before the bus comes for Bambi... No reprocussions for her this way... LOL DONT EVER COUNT OUT A CLINTON! :-)

[ssmith]

Supseneding! Read the whole thread before freaking out.

the whole thread is going both ways.. some saying conceding.. some saying suspending??

[nette60]

It's probably true. They are pressuring supers to all come out for Obama, and they are really wanting her out of the way so he can for sure get the nod.

If she doesn't concede she hurts her chances in the Senate, so I think she kind of has to.

HIllary is already a powerful senator...She doesn't have to worry about re-electiion ..NY loves her. They just want the Clintons to help them now.....jerks!

[NYVIN4HILL08]

If Hillary wants to suspend her campaign that is fine. Seems like that is what Ron Paul is doing so he still stands a chance.
I heard on Fox however, that OB is blackmailing her with threats of releasing some papers on the Clinton Library.
It is also a ploy to get all of us on board with the party that just kicked us in the teeth.
I will be changing parties.......
bunch of b.s. we already know everything about hillary, obbammer is the sleaze bucket that needs to be questioned about his past and associations along with his racist whitey hating wife.

[ssmith]

Can we still send her money or does it go to the DNC?

thru hillaryclinton.com to her

thru dnc to that empty-suit

[Mrs L]

Makes me wonder if McCain has spoken to her about being on his ticket?? I mean, she can't very well continue on her current path and do that too.

YouTube - Urgent message to Senator Hillary Clinton

Here you go watch this and smile!!

Pastor Manning will cheer you up

[reddirtgirl]

Do you actually believe with all your heart that Hillary is going to be McCain's vp? Unrealistic, that's what I think.


Sounded unrealistic to me too, until someone here posted that the RNC had put out a press release sticking the toe in the water.

Remember, he also considered asking Kerry to be his VP....so it's within the realm of possibility.

[Jordan]

Hillary will suspend her campaign Friday and endorse Obama according to the NYT, MSNBC and other news networks.

[Jayling]

Moderators, please get rid of this f-ing thread. We don't listen to any one but Hillary about what her moves are. Stop this crap.
Adrienne, I was going to nuke this news media rhetoric but one thread after another after yet another was started on it and merged into one, so if it does get deleted I'd bet a good dinar another would just be started anew.

Folks, please calm down. We all know how the news networks want to control our thoughts and emotions -- and emotions are running high. Please wait until we hear word from the grand Lady herself -- Hillary.

Jayling

[Ebinger]

So, this isn't true?:

Sen. Hillary Clinton will hold an event with supporters by Friday, likely ending her historic bid for the White House and ceding the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, ABC News has learned.

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., is the only former first lady to make a historic bid for the White House.

Obama, D-Ill., who claimed victory after clinching the necessary delegates on Tuesday, will be the nation's first African American running with the nomination of one of the country's two major political parties.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4705151&page=1

?????

[CA Girl]

No, that's not what they said. I just saw that. They simply said if BO picks her as VP, she'd be asked about the foundation. But that's not blackmail.

I'm all for criticizing Obama, but can we please get our news straight before making accusations?

Thanks ClintonFan, you restored my faith. I was listening as I was working and I am glad you corrected me. I am not into false accusations either. My apologies.

[VANITY4HILLARY]

If Hillary wants to suspend her campaign that is fine. Seems like that is what Ron Paul is doing so he still stands a chance.
I heard on Fox however, that OB is blackmailing her with threats of releasing some papers on the Clinton Library.
It is also a ploy to get all of us on board with the party that just kicked us in the teeth.
I will be changing parties.......

um i thought those papers was already released?

[Ebinger]

Yeah, I asked about this in another thread:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4705151&page=1

Don't, Hillary.

[ssmith]

just like we thought.. let her suspend.. and "endorse" BO...

I think the convention is at the end of august.. thats 3 months away...

lots of BO goodies for the GOPs to open up

[floorrunner]

Here is the link from the article. The key word here is suspend. Not end.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/clinton-is-moving-toward-suspending-campaign-and-endorsing-obama/index.html?hp

[AnnaB]

I believe the media is saying she is conceding because they want her to so bad. Just like they continue to say she is begging for the VP position. They paint the picture as they want you to see it, not as it is.

[Annie]

NOT LEAVING. Suspending her campaign for a while...till the convention!


Okay that is aokay.... SUSPENDING that means still in the game until the Convention.

Just read the article she is suspending but supporting Obama... what the fk. Forget it.....! McCain for Potus - no terrorists thank you very much.

[Ebinger]

Yeah, Mitt Romney used that word - "suspended" himself, and look what happened.:(

[joeysky18]

Enough already!!!!!

It's Hillary's mom BIRTHDAY TODAY. Do you think she will be thinking about the campaign?

She probably is going to take a rest today and form a good strategy.

Please stop all the speculation about the VP stuffs. We are only speculate and make matter worse.

Let's wait, be patient give Hillary some time and space to think thing through.

[tcbwriter]

There's absolutely nothing on her website. I can't believe she would make this decision and announce it to the press before advising her supporters. Sounds like somebody is talking out of school. :(

[mjno7777]

Everyone NOW. Get off the forum, and blog in every paper online and news source. IS THIS another dirty tactic from CAMP OBAMA? AND, suspend til the convention is different from concede.

Let's do it.

[Renee in Florida]

Sounded unrealistic to me too, until someone here posted that the RNC had put out a press release sticking the toe in the water.

Remember, he also considered asking Kerry to be his VP....so it's within the realm of possibility.


No in fact it was JOHN KERRY in 2004 who actually asked Mccain to be his Vp, and Mccain turned him down.

So you see all you OBAMAOTS, we will have no problem voting for the maverick John mccain.

OBAMA will never WIN.!!!

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Ok Now They Are Saying She Is Suspending The Campaign

Which is the proper course of action. Suspend, do not conceed. Heck, Huckabee hasn't "conceeded". He's just quit campaigning and he wasn't even in neck and neck race.

Just sit back, listen to what Hillary tells her supporters, and don't believe anything unless it comes from the horses mouth. Once we know where she stands, we will act accordingly. I don't know that ever in the history of the DNC was a presidential candidate bullied so blatantly to conceed. On what grounds should she? Ted Kennedy didn't and he was like 800 delegates behind.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

Yeah, Mitt Romney used that word - "suspended" himself, and look what happened.:(



he never had the popular vote , hillary does, they didn't cheat on him, they cheated on hillary, mccain won the delegates, obbammer hasn't and can still lose them at the convention, hillary will go to the convention in a few short months.

[jenaset]

Fox and cnn now stating SUSPENDING he campaign on friday. Everybody take a breath...

[Rick V]

I hope really HOPE she does not suspend on friday and prove them WRONG once again

[Ebinger]

Like I said, Romney used the same word.

There's absolutely nothing on her website. I can't believe she would make this decision and announce it to the press before advising her supporters. Sounds like somebody is talking out of school. :(

Assosciated (with the Committee to Elect BHO) Press says:

While Clinton still wasn't conceding, there were signs aplenty that she was closing shop. She began bidding campaign staff members farewell, and a number were told not to come to work after Friday. Last paychecks were expected to go out June 15.

link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNxTApa2sQRu0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD913HEKO0)

[NYVIN4HILL08]

she needs a break, give her a chance, it's only two months till the convention, in the meantime write her on her web and telll her how you feel.

[Brooke]

YouTube - Urgent message to Senator Hillary Clinton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuysWJDP6J4)

Here you go watch this and smile!!

Pastor Manning will cheer you up

I loved that video.

[Brooke]

Can she still try to get SDs this way?

[deniseds]

Lets just wait and see what she decides. She asked all of us to go and comment on her website and I know she will let us know what she decides. We have always heard from her. I have been one of her Rapid Responders and I always get emails from her. The media is just going to talk their BS and make everyone crazy.

[ShyFire]

Right- by her suspending, instead of conceding, she is able to keep her delegates until the convention AND she stays in the mix- without bleeding money.

Does anyone have an account over at DU? I don't- but, someone needs to point out to those smug ******** what the difference between "concede" and 'suspend" is!

They're already setting Hillary up as the scapegoat when Barry loses in November..lol. They're insane! They're showing clips of the RNC commercial- but only showing Hillary dissing Nobama- leaving John Edward's comments aside..lol. IDIOTS!

[Charlie Brown]

Dear Layne,

Over the course of this campaign, I have seen the promise of America in your courage and character, your energy and ingenuity, and your compassion and faith.

Your spirit has inspired me every day in this race. While I traveled this country talking about how I wanted to help you -- time and again, you reached out to help me. To grab my hand or grip my arm, to look me in my eyes and tell me, don’t quit, keep fighting, stay in this race for us. There were days when I had strength enough for the both of us -- and on the days I didn't, I leaned on you.

This has always been your campaign, and tonight, there's no one I want to hear from more than you. I hope you're as proud as I am of what we've done and that you'll take a moment to share your thoughts with me now at my website.

I want to congratulate Senator Obama and his supporters on the extraordinary race that they have run. Senator Obama has inspired so many Americans to care about politics and empowered so many more to get involved, and our party and our democracy are stronger and more vibrant as a result.

Whatever path I travel next, I promise I will keep faith with you and everyone I have met across this good and great country. There is no possible way to thank you enough for everything you have done throughout this primary season, and you will always be in my heart.

Sincerely, Hillary



Hillary did ask for a contrabution though...But this sounds like she is done to me, I imagine she needs money for her debt..would she ask for it though??

[AnnaB]

Fox news changed their wording to suspended, this makes sense and makes one believe that she's taking it to Denver!

[joeysky18]

she needs a break, give her a chance, it's only two months till the convention, in the meantime write her on her web and telll her how you feel.

You are right. That's what we should do.

The campaign has a plan that we can't fathom. So just wait for the signal, and we can align our resources with the campaign.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

Like I said, Romney used the same word.



Assosciated (with the Committee to Elect BHO) Press says:




http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-7/1196423/obamasmokes_small.JPG


"I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

"I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race."

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

"I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds. One of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were relieved -- such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time.""I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though."

"...I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."

"I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor. I will also oppose any proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban gays and lesbians from marrying."

"I am not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."

"We're going to reshape America in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generous."

"I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community."

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person..."

"That’s just how white folks will do you."

"We've got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money."
"Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula? I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff."

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

[Ebinger]

he never had the popular vote , hillary does, they didn't cheat on him, they cheated on hillary, mccain won the delegates, obbammer hasn't and can still lose them at the convention, hillary will go to the convention in a few short months.

Yeah, and even if what AP says is true, there's no reason to keep campaigning with a full staff if there's no more primary elections - I still think I'll pop over to her site and leave a message for her not to quit. BHO's unelectable, and it's rather late for Hillary to go third party.

[AnnaB]

Everyone NOW. Get off the forum, and blog in every paper online and news source. IS THIS another dirty tactic from CAMP OBAMA? AND, suspend til the convention is different from concede.

Let's do it.

Alright, I'm on my way over to politico, then Greta, then ABC, and if I can stomach it--then CNN.

[Patsy]

Like I said, Romney used the same word.



Assosciated (with the Committee to Elect BHO) Press says:



link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNxTApa2sQRu0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD913HEKO0)

Suspend means just that. It means that you have NOT CONCEDED and that you are still in this Campaign.

It also enables you to keep staff and keep your Campaign active.

By Concession, you lose the right to continue.

Mitt Romney made a big mistake because should something happen to
McCain, Huckabee is now second in delegate count.

Hillary Clinton is reserving her right to go before the Credentials Committee
in Denver should she decide to do that.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

[Vici57]

That is exactly what she needs to do. This is the best move for her at this time. She can start to cover her debts but still not conceded to Obama. Now if all the crap will come out about Obma in the next couple of weeks, he maybe will have to step down. We can always hope he will be destroyed. I just can't stand to even look at him. I felt the same way about Bush and I am from Texas and have never voted for the man!

[Jordan]

This decision signals her focus on unifying the democratic party. Lets join her. :) She knows what's best.

[Brooke]

Guys listen, this works out perfectly. First, she doesn't have to hand over her delegates (meaning that all of our hard work and voting isn't being wiped away). Second, she's able to step back and watch Obama carry this thing on his own, or try to. We have the Rezko verdict, the tape, and more ways he is going to trip up now that the attention is ALL ON HIM. He's already showing his vulnerability against McCain and it's only been a day. And lastly, she can go take a much needed vacation and get her freak on with Bill.:D

And by the time the Convention rolls around, Obama will have been beaten and Hillary will be refreshed for Round 2.

I refuse to believe this thing is over. And I'm willing to bet, Hillary will suspend her campaign on Friday but not yet acknowledge Obama as the nominee.

[Renee in Florida]

We are united To see Hillary Clinton elected president.

If that fails we are united to vote Mccain.

[joeysky18]

We are united To see Hillary Clinton elected president.

If that fails we are united to vote Mccain.


Plan A Hillary
Plan B McCain

[Brooke]

she is dropping out guys and endorsing him. on monday i received a personal thank you note for my hard work, and my ideas to her campaign. no mention of her going to denver or that she is confident that she will be the next president but rather she said amy working together we can bring about change and restore the promise of our country.

Amy, I think you are misreading it. If she was dropping out, she would have done it last night and endorsed him. I know you have links to the campaign, but until I hear this from Hillary, I don't believe it. Why would she suspend her campaign if she was planning on endorsing him anyway? It doesn't make any sense.

[jerseygirl7]

She DOESNT HAVE TO CONCEDE anything even if every Super came out to endorse Bambi...... Thats the beauty of her position........AND I DONT SEE how that hurts her in the Senate.... Nothing gets done right now anyway over Summer..... I think it makes her look weak if she drops and he really doesn't have the pledged delegate count.... Do you realize that the Supers MAY NOT even come to be needed at the Convention? LOL THey only get involved if endless voting cant produce a nominee!
I would believe it when I see it! She could just concede now if she wanted to rather then wait........ UNLESS she knows something between now and Friday. Did you guys ever think she knows more about this supposed Bomb then we know.... this could all be a distancing act by her to appear vulnerable before the bus comes for Bambi... No reprocussions for her this way... LOL DONT EVER COUNT OUT A CLINTON! :-)


Scott, I like you analysis and I certainly need that today. I am so down and out about all this that I am about ready to cry. I was quite testy today and proclaimed that I am done cleaning up after men (sorry guys). My husband and son are keeping a distance from me tonight. Not to mention the men I work with!

I firmly believe there are so many men who would rather vote for any man - white, black, dead or half dead, than a woman! They just can't handle the competition - a woman as President. God forbid! Feel like it is 1908 rather than 2008!

[Ebinger]

Suspend means just that. It means that you have NOT CONCEDED and that you are still in this Campaign.

It also enables you to keep staff and keep your Campaign active.

By Concession, you lose the right to continue.

Mitt Romney made a big mistake because should something happen to
McCain, Huckabee is now second in delegate count.

Hillary Clinton is reserving her right to go before the Credentials Committee
in Denver should she decide to do that.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Points taken, and I hope she does appeal the DNC's decision and hangs in there (suspends, heh) until Denver.

The MSM continues to be misleading in every which way they can. For example, I see this:

NPR - Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell says he expects that Hillary Clinton will concede defeat in the race to the White House by the week's end. Rendell, one of the New York senator's strongest supporters, says there is no chance she will keep fighting to wrest the Democratic nomination from her rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

But then you read it further:

However, he says he does not have any inside information from the Clinton campaign and is simply giving his "gut reaction."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91155924

That's not news, that's gossip. :rolleyes:

[Molly]

RELAX - she will SUSPEND!!!! PERFECT!!! - That was what I suggested in my e-mail to her - Hillary Clinton is very smart!!! This way she gets to keep her delegates - and us - the MILLIONS of supporters. Anything can happen between now and the convention in August!!! AND we all know it will as obama is a FRAUD - and soon everyone will know.
Hillary Clinton will be our next president!!!!

[HillaryNowAndForever]

I've been reading this site for months now and finally worked up the nerve to post here. I wanted Hillary to win so badly and now I don't know what to make of this news.

Thank you everyone for providing such wonderful information on Hillary. She can still win I"m sure. :)

[Frances]

Nothing like being with Mom on this special Birthday!

[Tague]

I get the suspend vs concede...but why would she endorse O?

Can anybody explain the endorse part?

What possible positive impact could that have on the uncomitted supers, or those who might have been thinking about flipping?

This is making me ill

Thanks in advance....

[swannyj]

I received a NYT alert that said she was suspending and endorsing Obama on Fri. Is suspend the same as concede?

[CriticalOne]

I think we've already made the point that this is a suspension, and not a concession. That's not even up for debate, anymore.

What is really worrying me is that they are saying she'll endorse Obama. You can't just suspend and then go and endorse your opponent for president. It's a total contradiction. I'm steeling myself for this.

There is a way to explain positively the suspension. There is no way to positively spin and endorsement of Barack Obama.

[swannyj]

I hope "suspend" rather than concede means she doesn't have to campaign for him over the summer.

[mooaks]

it's over.

Do you even have a clue what suspend means??? It sure as hell doesn't mean that it's over. John Edwards suspended his run for the presidency, he didn't quit or concede. It meant he could lay back and keep his delegates (she will keep all of her delegates) and rest relax and play the waiting game. Just like Edwards did.;);)

[AnnaB]

Candy Crawley on CNN said she is suspending but holding on to her delegates.

[hillary1]

Just reported on Fox news. But we all know how unreliable news networks are.

watching the local news tonight here in new york, local channel 7abc, before going off the air that hillary clinton will leave the race on friday, she is hosting a dinner for her staff at her home, and this i guess would be the approbriate time for the statement

i have so many mixed feelings, i am very saddened by it all, such a grueling struggle, to come so far, and to be let down by so many whom she thought of as friends in the democratic party, i am not sure i would want to be part of this organization of people who put a knife in my back

my vote will go to mccain, most are still saying the dem party will unit, who knows, who cares, i don't

[Diamond Tiger]

First - Until I hear it from Hillary, I ain't believing it...

Second - all I have is one word to say after what I have seen for the last 17 months.



WHATEVER

[DarrellP]

Fox News reported that Hillary will quit the race and endorse Obama Friday, The DNC Leadership and some Democratic Leaders in Congress urged her to quit now, so that the party leadership will have time to unite the party around Obama.

Well, this it for me, I will vote MCcain on election day, there is no way I will help unite this no good party around a nominee who does not deserve this office, I'm an African American and this will be the first time in my life that I will vote Republican to try and help block Obama's Presidency.:mad:

[JMS825]

I sent a message to Hillary

I am truly disappointed that you have decided to back Sen. Obama. On Aug 25th I will be changing my political party to Independent and I will start my campaign for Sen McCain.

[CriticalOne]

I hope "suspend" rather than concede means she doesn't have to campaign for him over the summer.

If you read through the thread, it's been explained over and over again.

[JMS825]

Not only did they say Hillary is to suspend on Friday but her endorsement will be at a rally for Obama. I am somewhat upset with Hillary same as I was with Gore when he stopped fighting

[Optixmom]

HIllary is already a powerful senator...She doesn't have to worry about re-electiion ..NY loves her. They just want the Clintons to help them now.....jerks!

NY LOVES SENATOR CLINTON!

We're keeping her senate seat warm and comfy for her to just ease back in if she so chooses. No worries for that people...move on...

[mjr17]

I have no idea what Hillary is planning for Friday, if anything. But I doubt she'll "concede"; she wil probably just "suspend" which means she hangs on to her delegates.

WE ARE STILL GOING TO DENVER!

[ShyFire]

I think we all agree that she is "suspending" her campaign.

Re: ENDORSING Obama- I'm not too sure about- that doesn't make any sense. You don't endorse while you're suspended. However- and here's a little legalese word smithing-

I think she will "ACKNOWLEDGE" his presumptive status. That's my 2cents.

[Eddie3dfx]

Even if she concedes, the DNC will ultimately have to ask her to run if these tapes come out of Michelle and whitey.
Which means they will be BEGGING HER TO RUN!!!!
HAHAHAHAH

[Les33]

Not only did they say Hillary is to suspend on Friday but her endorsement will be at a rally for Obama. I am somewhat upset with Hillary same as I was with Gore when he stopped fighting

Why are you believing this? Why aren't you believing Hillary? Do you think she wouldn't tell us first???????? STOP THIS

[Ebinger]

I have no idea what Hillary is planning for Friday, if anything. But I doubt she'll "concede"; she wil probably just "suspend" which means she hangs on to her delegates.

WE ARE STILL GOING TO DENVER!

Fine - so AFAIC, it's all good as long as she doesn't release her delegates and she should keep up the pressure on the superdelegates, since they're "Democrats" they should want a "Democrat" that can actually.....ummmmmmmmm..............win.

[Tague]

Listening to H&C on Fox

Now its suspend on Saturday - allows her to keep delegates and she plans to -also allows her to continue to raise money & keeps her credentials committee option open. Finally they are saying she will acknowledge support for O - not endorse him.

Hillary is so smart - I pray she has a plan I do not understand, and she really does know what she is doing

[Eridon]

I would like to see her run as an Independent. This would be better than a write in. As an Independent, her name would be in plain sight on the ballot.

Then she would be free of the stupid supers, and so would we, she would be free to fly.
She would be highly electable for all the same reasons, and everyone who already loves her and supports her would vote for her, of course including Florida and Michigan, so she would sweep all the same states.

It would be good for the country, and a historic win for REAL Democracy.

[blueskygal]

Listening to H&C on Fox

Now its suspend on Saturday - allows her to keep delegates and she plans to -also allows her to continue to raise money & keeps her credentials committee option open. Finally they are saying she will acknowledge support for O - not endorse him.

Hillary is so smart - I pray she has a plan I do not understand, and she really does know what she is doing

that's the gal i know and love. she's leaving her options open and her integrity intact.

[CriticalOne]

Yes, I was trying to figure out if the report is that she'll endorse him or acknowledge his supposed clinching. I can both support her suspending and acknowledging. I can not, however, support her conceding and endorsing or even suspending and endorsing, which simply wouldn't make sense.

BTW, I don't believe her campaign is disseminating false information or playing mind games with the media and the opposing campaign. I simply believe that with an organization as big as a presidential campaign, and especially in this 24-hour news world, you're going to have some defectors and quitters and you'll have just as many media people waiting to break a story.

[Ebinger]

I've gtg. but here, I THINK I finally understand:

WASHINGTON (June 4) - Hillary Rodham Clinton has decided to end her historic presidential campaign while leaving her options open to retain her delegates and promote her issue agenda, a campaign official says.

Meh: http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/hillary-clinton-to-end-presidential-bid/20080602202609990001

So, she's not punting after all.

*look around* Hold on tight to them that delegates, Hillary - they can't exist in a vacuum.

[Linda C]

She sure is going to take her message to the convention. Jessie Jackson did and had much less.

She is going to push her universal health care if nothing else.

[hipelayne]

Yep, she's just suspending it. I was having a discussion about this earlier and I mean this is definitely the most logical right now.

I love your signature

[hipelayne]

Not only did they say Hillary is to suspend on Friday but her endorsement will be at a rally for Obama. I am somewhat upset with Hillary same as I was with Gore when he stopped fighting

So she's only suspending her campaign for a couple of days? Doesn't make sense to me!:confused: If she endorses him then that would effectively mean that she's given up!

[thebword]

Suspending the campaign gives her distance from Obama. That way when the GOP goes after him it's McCain's campaign that is blamed, not Sen. Clinton. Sen. Clinton will still be able to go to the Convention in August, and any Super Delegates who endorsed Obama will just jump ship and vote for Sen. Clinton. So relax, Sen. Clinton is just playing it smart. Now she can relax, play nice with the DNC, and wait for the GOP attack machine to unleash all the dirt she didn't.

[Amy Dugan]

Juan Williams repeated this on Greta, Hillary is not conceding BUT is suspending it so she can have delegates, leverage for VP or other issues she cares about

[JOY TO THE WORLD]

I hold out until I actually see Hillary hold up hands with Obama...if she does and says that she is "endorsing" him, then I will react, accordingly. Nevertheless, I don't think Hillary will throw herself or her supporters overboard. Suspension makes sense and acknowledging the DNC selection is the right course...after all, words to matter :)

[B positive]

Juan Williams repeated this on Greta, Hillary is not conceding BUT is suspending it so she can have delegates, leverage for VP or other issues she cares about

Yeah, loved the way he emphasized SUSPEND and her holding on to her delegates.

He was too much for the joint ticket though.

[mukunda22]

that today, I wrote to Hillary and asked her to suspend her campaign, until further notice, and if opportunity arises again (which it most assuredly will) then she can jump in again.

I even mentioned the MO tape.

I bet alot of us did the same thing.

[ScottVA]

Well I just got off the phone with a good lawyer friend in Chicago ... we spent 45 minutes talking about Rezko's conviction.... My friend (who's actually an Obi supporter not diehard though)..... said that after the convictions on 16 counts... he thinks FitzGerald may possibly (in the very near future) bring indictments against Blagojevich (Gov of IL) and guess who else.... One Mr. Obama! Among other people... He said the FBI acquired a lot of information on Obama along with testimony of folks at the trial that puts Obama places doing things he shouldn't have been doing.... SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.... This could have been what Clinton meant in her Oregon speech for all of us to Keep our Eyes and Ears Open and pay attention/alert going forward... Maybe she's just going into suspend mode keeping her delegates and waiting for the fireworks to begin before August... LOL

[Dendy]

She is doing the smart thing. Imagine if she didn’t. This way she can relax and enjoy the show. Let the republicans do all the dirty work.
She’ll take this to the convention and if nothing else she’ll push for new rules for the primaries no more caucuses, no more shared delegates and maybe a deal for universal heath care too.

[DrLisa]

She has no choice but to do it this way, or the entire DNC will unleash on her and then she will have no hope of the nomination when BO self destructs. This way she still has all of her options open. All she is saying is the obvious...the primaries are over, and so she will not be campaigning in the primaries any more. She will talk about her issues for the voters, and make her case at the convention if he is not doing well.

[Kaylin]

Mitt Romney originally suspended his campaign, as far as I know could still be suspended, and nobody in the RNC complained about it.

I'm glad Hillary's suspending rather than conceding. She keeps several options open--one, she's first in line if Obama has another scandal. and frankly, considering the way the Dems have treated her she needs to maintain her delegate strength because I wouldn't put anything past them in trying to bypass her and *select* an Obama replacement candidate.

two, she can continue to take donations and pay down her campaign debt. honestly, I hope this happens because I don't want to see Hillary beholden to the Obama campaign for ANYTHING.

three, she can use her delegate strength to try to get Obama to use her health care plan, which is vastly superior to his.

and if the Dems would not even give her that much, it would be a great reason for launching an independent run.

Hillary's always had a lot of options. her detractors don't want to believe this, but that doesn't stop it from being true.

[Laura Cereta]

This decision signals her focus on unifying the democratic party. Lets join her. :) She knows what's best.

Uh... no.

[trading wine for beer]

Mitt Romney originally suspended his campaign, as far as I know could still be suspended, and nobody in the RNC complained about it.



As far as that goes, John Edwards only suspended his campaign too.. I don't hear an outcry against him. In fact, if Hillary conceded, and some controversy reared its head against BO, then John Edwards would be able to step in as the nominee. Where's the divisive charge against Edwards?? :rolleyes:

[swannyj]

you read through the thread, it's been explained over and over again.
Reply With Quote

Sorry, I have slow dial up so my refresh rate/post rate is such there were a # of post between mine.
I did read the post and believe it or not understood it the first time

[texan4hillary]

i cannot believe hillary is endorsing obama saturday-does this mean all her delegates are forfit? all these conventions comming up like in tx-her del retention will plumet. and we worked so damned hard.

[Rick V]

Not if she suspends her campaign at least thats my tought

[CriticalOne]

Yeah, she can't both suspend her campaign and endorse someone else. The only way her endorsement matters is if she chooses to release her delegates.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, Saturday.

I say that we keep writing her campaign, though, up until 11:59 P.M. Friday. I've already sent the team my message which says that rolling in the mud with pigs makes you one of them, and that illegitimacy begets illegitimacy.

[Joe from WI]

Whether Hillary suspends or not her campaign is NO LONGER an issue for us voters.

We will need to consider what is our next step. We cannot allow BO to step near the WH.

[CGP]

I think we've already made the point that this is a suspension, and not a concession. That's not even up for debate, anymore.

What is really worrying me is that they are saying she'll endorse Obama. You can't just suspend and then go and endorse your opponent for president. It's a total contradiction. I'm steeling myself for this.

There is a way to explain positively the suspension. There is no way to positively spin and endorsement of Barack Obama.

Agree.

I can deal with a "suspension".

I cannot deal with an "endorsement" of him. No way. That would be akin to rewarding him for his unacceptable conduct throughout this campaign.

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I was upset I dont think she should do either. This is bad because I will not vote for Obama and will tell the Clinton campaign not to sell my name to Obama. I will make it clear that I will never vote for that man nor any democrat ever again.

[CGP]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html

In CNN's report they say she will "express her support" for Obama. This is not an "endorsement".

So:

suspend does not equal concede

support does not equal endorse

[suerw]

Well I just got off the phone with a good lawyer friend in Chicago ... we spent 45 minutes talking about Rezko's conviction.... My friend (who's actually an Obi supporter not diehard though)..... said that after the convictions on 16 counts... he thinks FitzGerald may possibly (in the very near future) bring indictments against Blagojevich (Gov of IL) and guess who else.... One Mr. Obama! Among other people... He said the FBI acquired a lot of information on Obama along with testimony of folks at the trial that puts Obama places doing things he shouldn't have been doing.... SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.... This could have been what Clinton meant in her Oregon speech for all of us to Keep our Eyes and Ears Open and pay attention/alert going forward... Maybe she's just going into suspend mode keeping her delegates and waiting for the fireworks to begin before August... LOL

If your lawyer friend is correct, this would be very good news. Regardless of any other factors, Obama's connections need to be brought to light and his candidacy derailed.

[AnnaB]

Remember she has to play the game and let things simmer a bit.

[suerw]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html

In CNN's report they say she will "express her support" for Obama. This is not an "endorsement".

So:

suspend does not equal concede

support does not equal endorse

I'm very glad that I never entered politics. I simply could not play the game as it has to be played -- for example expressing support for someone I would have every reason to believe is an unqualified, inexperienced person with major character flaws and a total lack of integrity. I learned in business to compromise and work to build coalitions to accomplish goals despite differences of opinion. However, differences of opinion are one thing. Differences in core beliefs and character issues are quite another thing. ... I realize that Hillary may well be playing a waiting game in the event more revelations about Obama come to light, keeping her options open. But I sure wish she didn't feel compelled (by others in the party or by political necessity) to outright express support for him.

[CGP]

I'm very glad that I never entered politics. I simply could not play the game as it has to be played -- for example expressing support for someone I would have every reason to believe is an unqualified, inexperienced person with major character flaws and a total lack of integrity. I learned in business to compromise and work to build coalitions to accomplish goals despite differences of opinion. However, differences of opinion are one thing. Differences in core beliefs and character issues are quite another thing. ... I realize that Hillary may well be playing a waiting game in the event more revelations about Obama come to light, keeping her options open. But I sure wish she didn't feel compelled (by others in the party or by political necessity) to outright express support for him.

I hear ya! This is why I have no interest in supporting party politics. This notion of everyone rallying behind the leader, unifying behind them, is total crap. It requires people to support someone they have no belief in, no faith in, all for the sake of "unity". Stuff that. I'd rather sit on the sidelines as an independent and not feel compelled to support a fool just because that's what a good party member does! :rolleyes: The Taylor Marsh example is the classic case of "supporting the nominee" regardless. She has harshly critized Obama for months - and rightly so - and now will suspend all of that to rally behind the presumptive nominee. What absolute B/S. Party politics requires people to abandon ethics and morals.

[Karee Wyoming]

HIllary is already a powerful senator...She doesn't have to worry about re-electiion ..NY loves her. They just want the Clintons to help them now.....jerks!

I hope Hillary suspends her candicity and presents her delegates at the convention, If BO is the nominee, go back to her job in the Senate, do as little campaigning for him as possible (Party & DNC be dammed) I would wait and run for govenor of New York, she would most cetainly win and no chance of the crooks on the hill & the corrupt DNC & Cohorts cheating her out of it!!! Hillary cannot do anything to prevent BO from winning the GE so we need to do it for her - vote John McCain and if she runs again in 2012 we could certainly support her again!!!

I really do not think she will ever run again, you can only knock a person down so many times and she certainly has figured out the extreme bias & sexism by the MSM, DNC, SD. The unfair front-loaded cacuss's. A freind of mine from Las Vegas came to see me last night, she helped with caucuss thier, said it was a disaster, people voted multible times, no real list to verify any info - This is why Hillary lost and no-one is responsible except the rotten DNC with thier stupid rules, proportioning delegates, shutting out Mich & Fla. etc. etc.

The choice is Hillarys but they can carrry on about unity of the party till the cows come in, I will never vote for this fraud!!! He can pick Mickey Mouse for his VP for all I care.
I will be joining McCains campaign and I will do everything possible (financial, phone blogging, etc. to help him beat that moron!!!
BO just makes me sick with all his pandering and praising Hillary, he just wants to use her to try to get our votes. He is in-between a rock and a hard place, He has no idea of the resolve of the american people who supported Hillary and the stupid News people do not have a clue what they have done to women in this country.

We all know sexism has been rampant thru out this process, I find it laughable when they all try to figure out how many white voters are racist, Most people would not tell you even if they were, when you get in that voting booth you can vote anyway you choose!!! But you never hear anything about the 90% AA that voted for BO and against Hillary, Do they ask if they are racist, the answer in No!!!!

[seawave]

Well I just got off the phone with a good lawyer friend in Chicago ... we spent 45 minutes talking about Rezko's conviction.... My friend (who's actually an Obi supporter not diehard though)..... said that after the convictions on 16 counts... he thinks FitzGerald may possibly (in the very near future) bring indictments against Blagojevich (Gov of IL) and guess who else.... One Mr. Obama! Among other people... He said the FBI acquired a lot of information on Obama along with testimony of folks at the trial that puts Obama places doing things he shouldn't have been doing.... SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.... This could have been what Clinton meant in her Oregon speech for all of us to Keep our Eyes and Ears Open and pay attention/alert going forward... Maybe she's just going into suspend mode keeping her delegates and waiting for the fireworks to begin before August... LOL

Scott, I hope you analysis is correct. This would mean there is justice in the world and give new meaning to the saying What Comes Around Goes Around. Please keep us informed. Out here on the west coast we don't get all the Chicago news. seawave in WA

[blueskygal]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html

In CNN's report they say she will "express her support" for Obama. This is not an "endorsement".

So:

suspend does not equal concede

support does not equal endorse

People, remember one thing: OUR GAL HAS I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y and what song did she play last night? "I won't back down."

[blueskygal]

"If BO is the nominee, go back to her job in the Senate, do as little campaigning for him as possible (Party & DNC be dammed) I would wait and run for govenor of New York,"

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HILLARY AS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. SORRY DIDN'T BRING YOUR NAME WITH/QUOTE.

YES! (Wish i still lived there if she was!) that would give her real executive experience.

[Annie]

Do you even have a clue what suspend means??? It sure as hell doesn't mean that it's over. John Edwards suspended his run for the presidency, he didn't quit or concede. It meant he could lay back and keep his delegates (she will keep all of her delegates) and rest relax and play the waiting game. Just like Edwards did.;);)


I know -and Edwards just gave up his delegates so Obamababy could think he had the nomination but he still doesn't.

Anyway - some people need a dictionary before they type. I don't care if they can't spell but for gad's sakes know what the words mean. This is how rumors start and continue..

I agree with someone else the moderators need to shut this thread down. Too much confusion and too many people unable to see the difference between 'concede' and 'suspend'.:rolleyes:

[Annie]

Juan Williams repeated this on Greta, Hillary is not conceding BUT is suspending it so she can have delegates, leverage for VP or other issues she cares about

Rush Limbough mentioned a nomination for Supreme Court Justice would be something she would probably be interested in............... how's them apples?

Now, of course, she is only suspending and will be working for the DNC only (not Obama) for funds for the general (remember she signed that she would do that with the DNC a couple of weeks ago) and she is hanging on to her delegates. Obama cannot pick a vp until the convention and by the time the Convention comes around in August we shall see who the super delegates will cast their vote towards then.... White House? or No House?

Edwards was suspending but obviously conceded when he released his Delegates to Obama.

So do Edwards delegates have to go to Obama or do they have a choice in the matter? Hmmmm.

Now I understand when people say 'why bother to vote our votes don't count anyway'. There you go - they must have all been democrats.