Hillary's Email to Supporters Regarding Her Plan to "Support" Obama - She is also Rumored to be "Suspending" her Campaign...

[CGP]

She doesn't mention suspending or conceding...

She mentions "supporting" Obama...this does not equal "endorsing"...

Make of it what you will ;)

(bolded part done by me)




Dear Murray,

I wanted you to be one of the first to know: on Saturday, I will hold an event in Washington D.C. to thank everyone who has supported my campaign. Over the course of the last 16 months, I have been privileged and touched to witness the incredible dedication and sacrifice of so many people working for our campaign. Every minute you put into helping us win, every dollar you gave to keep up the fight meant more to me than I can ever possibly tell you.

On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

When I decided to run for president, I knew exactly why I was getting into this race: to work hard every day for the millions of Americans who need a voice in the White House.

I made you -- and everyone who supported me -- a promise: to stand up for our shared values and to never back down. I'm going to keep that promise today, tomorrow, and for the rest of my life.

I will be speaking on Saturday about how together we can rally the party behind Senator Obama. The stakes are too high and the task before us too important to do otherwise.

I know as I continue my lifelong work for a stronger America and a better world, I will turn to you for the support, the strength, and the commitment that you have shown me in the past 16 months. And I will always keep faith with the issues and causes that are important to you.

In the past few days, you have shown that support once again with hundreds of thousands of messages to the campaign, and again, I am touched by your thoughtfulness and kindness.

I can never possibly express my gratitude, so let me say simply, thank you.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

[Santiago]

1. Hillary
2. McCain

[i hate nbc and cnn]

if it was her choice she would fight but the party leaders are making her do this bs makes me upset

[CGP]

This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!

Thankfully this entire campaign has reminded me why I have ZERO interest in being affiliated with any political party. Independence is the ONLY way to go for me, that way one can retain independent thought and not feel compelled to support a failed candidate for the sake of "unity"! :rolleyes:

Onwards to Denver!

[takakupo]

She doesn't mention suspending or conceding...

She mentions "supporting" Obama...this does not equal "endorsing"...

Make of it what you will ;)

(bolded part done by me)

I didn't get this e-mail :(
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I can't believe how sad this makes me feel. I really can't.

[i hate nbc and cnn]

i think most clinton supporters (im one of them) who knows she has to do this

[Soaring Eagle]

The democratic party can shove their unity!!!

[CGP]

I didn't get this e-mail :(
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I can't believe how sad this makes me feel. I really can't.

It's politics.

Just remember, she can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination.

[Annie]

Hmmmmm.... I am not happy with that. Is she being forced by the DNC under threat to do this... ? I understand support is not endorse... no mention of her delegates though.... Hmmmmm....

Saturday? What can happen in one day...?

Oh well back to work for me and mine... see ya later and I am still hoping... shouldn't use that hope word I know it is beginning to sound not so hopeful. So I am positive things will work out still... The important thing is HE doesn't make Potus.

[Soaring Eagle]

This definately asks this question now.


http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=14989

[K.Wayne]

I got it! Smart move. The Democratic Party is saying "now" he is the ("unofficial")nominee so, keeping true to her word, she'll support him. However, the ("official") nominee won't be picked until the convention, at which time Hillary can pull off the upset. She keeps her promise, while still being able to become the "official" nominee. And the party is "unified" around her.

[Rick V]

I didn't get this e-mail :(
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I can't believe how sad this makes me feel. I really can't.

I got the e-mail, where u or did u ever get emails from her campaign???

[CGP]

I got it! Smart move. The Democratic Party is saying "now" he is the ("unofficial")nominee so, keeping true to her word, she'll support him. However, the ("official") nominee won't be picked until the convention, at which time Hillary can pull off the upset. She keeps her promise, while still being able to become the "offical" nominee. And the party is "unified" around her.

Correct.

[MarkMiller]

I didn't get this e-mail :(
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I can't believe how sad this makes me feel. I really can't.

I hear ya. I didn't get this either.....of course i only got one e-mail from the DNC.....an hour after i made a post about never recieving anything from them. LOL! Who says they don't read these boards.

Keep your head up high and stay strong. It isn't over yet.

[lalene]

she is forced to do this by the stupid dnc. the choice of words are not "definate" words. i think she uses words that will help her keep her options open. i trust her and respect/understand her decision. she knows what she is doing. we will win.

[Kbentleyis]

Her campaign is still taking donations.

[CGP]

she is forced to do this by the stupid dnc. the choice of words are not "definate" words. i think she uses words that will help her keep her options open. i trust her and respect/understand her decision. she knows what she is doing. we will win.

Yes, I think the wording is sufficiently vague to not close all doors!

[Rick V]

I hear ya. I didn't get this either.....of course i only got one e-mail from the DNC.....an hour after i made a post about never recieving anything from them. LOL! Who says they don't read these boards.

Keep your head up high and stay strong. It isn't over yet.

No inorder to have gotten the e-mails from Hillary you had to have been a member from HILLARYCLINTON.COM. That is where I have been getting all of my e-mails from HILLARY.

[Elijah4Hillary]

Yeah, of course she's being forced to do this. No. 1 because Obama is so weak and slimy, he needs her. No. 2 The party has hardly any money for the convention, and I'm sure they're putting the blame on her, when really it's because of Obama that so many of us refused to contribute to the DNC. If they think they're going to get any money out of us now just because Hillary asks, they're dreaming. The only person who will get my money is Hillary.

I still plan to keep writing to her and to the superdelegates. I recommend everyone else do the same. As long as she doesn't concede and release her delegates, she can still win the nomination. And right now, I'm still believing in her that she WILL win.

Oh yeah, meant to say, my wife and I got the e-mails.

[lynfreedom]

Haven't been to that email in awhile but I did get one about the DC event

[JMS825]

here was my reply

I respect your choice and I hope you respect mine to leave this party and vote for John McCain come November

Sincerely
John

[MS BLUEGRASS]

It's politics.

Just remember, she can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination.

Murray...Do you REALLY think so? I just received my letter and I was a bit dismayed...I quickly came running to find a thread where this was being discussed. I so want her to go to Denver.....I would love the Michigan fiasco to be taken to the credentials committee. I'm itchin' for a floor fight!
:mad::mad::mad:

[floorrunner]

I didn't get this e-mail :(
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I can't believe how sad this makes me feel. I really can't.

Everyone that is signed up on her site will get one. They take the time to change the word friend to the name that you signed up with, to make it more personal.

[CGP]

Yes, our dear friends at AP had this to say:


An adviser said Clinton and her lieutenants had discussed various ways a presidential candidacy can end, including suspending the campaign to retain control of her convention delegates and sustain her visibility in an effort to promote her signature issue of health care. This adviser spoke on condition of anonymity because officials were not authorized to discuss the conference call Clinton held with her congressional supporters.

Other options include freeing her delegates to back Obama and ending her candidacy unconditionally. The official stressed that neither Clinton nor her inner circle had decided specifically what course to take other than to recognize that the active state of her bid to become the nation's first female president had ended.



I sure hope she chooses option 1 and not option 2. She earned those delegates and should hold onto them. She should NOT end her candidacy "unconditionally".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

[Patricia GA]

I just got it and I am crying like a baby. Man this is rough.

[Rick V]

I wanted you to be one of the first to know: on Saturday, I will hold an event in Washington D.C. to thank everyone who has supported my campaign. Over the course of the last 16 months, I have been privileged and touched to witness the incredible dedication and sacrifice of so many people working for our campaign. Every minute you put into helping us win, every dollar you gave to keep up the fight meant more to me than I can ever possibly tell you.

On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

When I decided to run for president, I knew exactly why I was getting into this race: to work hard every day for the millions of Americans who need a voice in the White House.

I made you -- and everyone who supported me -- a promise: to stand up for our shared values and to never back down. I'm going to keep that promise today, tomorrow, and for the rest of my life.

I will be speaking on Saturday about how together we can rally the party behind Senator Obama. The stakes are too high and the task before us too important to do otherwise.

I know as I continue my lifelong work for a stronger America and a better world, I will turn to you for the support, the strength, and the commitment that you have shown me in the past 16 months. And I will always keep faith with the issues and causes that are important to you.

In the past few days, you have shown that support once again with hundreds of thousands of messages to the campaign, and again, I am touched by your thoughtfulness and kindness.

I can never possibly express my gratitude, so let me say simply, thank you.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton



If you Read it there it is open to debate of what she will do look at the bolded part.

[MarkMiller]

No inorder to have gotten the e-mails from Hillary you had to have been a member from HILLARYCLINTON.COM. That is where I have been getting all of my e-mails from HILLARY.

I am signed up there. I have never recieved a single e-mail from them. I mentioned this on a post and also mentioned that I have never recieved a single e-mail or snail mail from the DNC.....then an hour later i recieved an E-Mail from the DNC.

[K.Wayne]

What we all have to remember is that she had to word this carefully because she knows that everyone is watching her. Ofcourse, the media will spin this as a concession in an attempt to try and force her hand and/or depress her supporters. We simply have to be patient and hold on.

[Spagpusher]

It wasn't but a few weeks ago or so that they wanted her and Obama to turn over their donors list so they could solicit money for the party. Obama immediately turned his in ... Hillary waited as long as she could. She didn't want to do it. I don't think she wants to do this now, either. I think it's being said with half a breath.

There is definite pressure taking place. I hope she's just going to suspend and not concede. Look at everything that came to light just since March on Obama. Now that he and Michele think they have it wrapped up ... they will get loose. Especially MO. There's no shutting up that trap for very long.

Hillary hopefully will keep her cards in her hands while painting a picture of unity.

Pisses me off that the Great Unifier needs Hillary to actually do it for him .... as usual!

[MarkMiller]

Everyone that is signed up on her site will get one. They take the time to change the word friend to the name that you signed up with, to make it more personal.

I doubt that. If we have not recieved updates than I think there may be a reason some do not get notifications. I hope takakupo gets one if it will help at all.....but i don't think just being signed up at Hillaryclinton.com is enough.

[Michael White]

Her dedication to the party is admirable. I don't see how in the world I could ever cast a vote, send a check,put up a sign for BHO.

I hope she waits in the wings in case he has an accident or something. I see his former fund raiser was just convicted of some high crimes, too bad his trial wasn't a few months ago... .

I think I'D rather have a sister that worked as a prostitute than a brother that would support BHO.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lTpFUT-lxls ♪ ♫♪

[Rick V]

I doubt that. If we have not recieved updates than I think there may be a reason some do not get notifications. I hope takakupo gets one if it will help at all.....but i don't think just being signed up at Hillaryclinton.com is enough.

Why not I signed up and donated a few times not a lot but what I could afford and I always got emails; they sent emails asking to help make calls here in her campaing office, to join rallies, and even to invite me to attend the events that HILLARY made here in CA. I got reg emails from her campaing

[PA_Voter]

I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.
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YES, YES, YES... We heard you, we just don't like what we're hearing. We understand that was the Party directive and they would have booted you earlier if you had really said what you wanted to. But don't worry, we're used to filtering out BO praises, so it's not a problem for us... We can handle it but could you change your voice so we don't think it's really coming from you?

There's still time for the DNC and SDs to wake up, and we'll try to stir them from their sleep while you go and try to sell a very flawed product.

[SusanfromPA]

We just have to keep the faith that one of the following will happen:

Rezko
Ayers
Sinclair
Young
Tape
Birth Certificate
Ties we have yet to learn about
Other various skeletons too numerous to mention at 2:52am.

You have to remember the Republicans are after him now. All unity requests are ignored in this phase.

[Rick V]

We just have to keep the faith that one of the following will happen:

Rezko
Ayers
Sinclair
Young
Tape
Birth Certificate
Ties we have yet to learn about
Other various skeletons too numerous to mention at 2:52am.

You have to remember the Republicans are after him now. All unity requests are ignored in this phase.

We should start a petition so that the Nobama Campaing releases his birth cetificate so we can prove he is/was born in the U.S.

[Michael White]

We just have to keep the faith that one of the following will happen:

Rezko
Ayers
Sinclair
Young
Tape
Birth Certificate
Ties we have yet to learn about
Other various skeletons too numerous to mention at 2:52am.

You have to remember the Republicans are after him now. All unity requests are ignored in this phase.


Oh I know something will come up once the GOP gets their hooks into him. Hillary's loyalty to the GNP is amazing considering everything they have done to de rail her. There is no way on earth BHO will win in November.

I doubt there's any chance I could get that last $25 I sent in last night back? The alternator went out on my tractor.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

I hope she waits in the wings in case he has an accident or something. I see his former fund raiser was just convicted of some high crimes, too bad his trial wasn't a few months ago... .


YES...That timing was very interesting, was it not?:rolleyes::confused::confused:

[hoanvu76]

Hillary has said she would support the nominee, she is proving she keeps her Word, even though it's to the Vile BO and DNC. She is in a tough spot, being called a traitor or the one to rip the party apart even in truth it's Obama that did this unspeakable act.

I don't mind support, please don't' concede, just suspend, didn't John Edwards suspend but never conceded?

Maybe, even if she concedes, Obama may damaged enough in the next 2 months that the Democratic Party will force the delegates to Nominate. We've seen stranger things, like Fox and Republicans actually defending a Clinton.

I am with you Hillary no matter what, but if you're not on the ballot, Obama made my decision very easily, McCain for me!!!

[Michael White]

Support to me is:

I will smile and tell all the 20 nothings I know " Yep I guess you were right." But when I'M alone in that booth, I'll be pushing a button I have never pushed before.

[MarkMiller]

Why not I signed up and donated a few times not a lot but what I could afford and I always got emails; they sent emails asking to help make calls here in her campaing office, to join rallies, and even to invite me to attend the events that HILLARY made here in CA. I got reg emails from her campaing

Dude....I signed up....got nothing....signed up again and still got nothing. It may well just be because i was unable to donate money. They didn't have a loty of staffing so I can only guess that it was a money issue.

[OkieforHRC2008]

Yes, I think the wording is sufficiently vague to not close all doors!

I hope you are right. This doesn't make me happy even though I understand the reasoning. Are we all still hoping that by doing this, that the RNC will target Obama and vet him properly?

~~OkieforHRC2008

[MS BLUEGRASS]

We just have to keep the faith that one of the following will happen:

Rezko
Ayers
Sinclair
Young
Tape
Birth Certificate
Ties we have yet to learn about
Other various skeletons too numerous to mention at 2:52am.

You have to remember the Republicans are after him now. All unity requests are ignored in this phase.

Other various skeletons too numerous to mention at 2:52am.

YES, I have to go to bed...we are driving 600 miles tomorrow from Mid-Mi on our way to Austin...well hubby will drive...I will sleep..lol...but I cannot help myself...something has been bugging me...maybe you have already discussed this......What is Hillary's campaign debt? Don't you think it would be impossible for her to be able to come up with enough funds to mount a campaign in Denver? Someone who is knowledgeable about the workings of these things please...tell me a good answer that I want to hear.

[CriticalOne]

Looks like she's been trying to let us all down softly, instead of dropping us. If she starts running around the country campaigning for Obama, we will then know that she's done. She's leaving her options open, but I think it's safe to assume for the time being that she's going to forgo those options, more likely than not.

[Alessandro Machi]

This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!

Thankfully this entire campaign has reminded me why I have ZERO interest in being affiliated with any political party. Independence is the ONLY way to go for me, that way one can retain independent thought and not feel compelled to support a failed candidate for the sake of "unity"! :rolleyes:

Onwards to Denver!

My way allows Hillary to stay in it, pay off her debts without owing the DNC or Barack Obama. Plus it buys time so the FBI can investigate the level of collusion that went on in Iowa between Edwards, Richardson and Obama.

[takakupo]

I got the e-mail, where u or did u ever get emails from her campaign???

Yeah, I signed up six months ago. I didn't even see it in my spam :( I even donated to her campaign.

[Destiny]

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we're used to filtering out BO praises, so it's not a problem for us... We can handle it but could you change your voice so we don't think it's really coming from you?

LET'S ASK HILLARY TO SIGNAL TO US BY 'CLEARING HER THROAT' DURING HER SPEECH ON SATURDAY. GO TO www.hillaryclinton.com AND LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR HER TO 'CLEAR HER THROAT' ONE TIME FOR US. I KNOW WHEN ACTORS GO ON TALK SHOWS THEY PLAY A GAME WITH THEIR FRIENDS. THEY COME UP WITH A WORD THAT THE ACTOR HAS TO SAY - USUALLY IT'S A DIFFICULT WORD TO INCORPORATE INTO AN INTERVIEW. IT'S A 'SHOUT OUT' FOR THEIR FRIENDS. IF YOU'RE IN ON IT - IT'S FUNNY.

MY HEART IS WITH HILLARY.

[Santiago]

It's a waiting game. Patience!!

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Another question I have concerning the "presumptive nominee"...On Tuesday night as the results were coming in, how did Obama get the delegates? I thought there was no way he could reach the number. Were there superdelegates who committed to him at the same time the results were coming in from SD and MT?

[Rick V]

Another question I have concerning the "presumptive nominee"...On Tuesday night as the results were coming in, how did Obama get the delegates? I thought there was no way he could reach the number. Were there superdelegates who committed to him at the same time the results were coming in from SD and MT?

Yeah its the Supers because a day before and up to the day of election he got Superdelegates thats what put him over the top

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Plus it buys time so the FBI can investigate the level of collusion that went on in Iowa between Edwards, Richardson and Obama.

Do you think they would...what about Spector? Do you think he would make good on his threat? Wouldn't that be great!

[AnnaB]

I got this email also, but darned if I can ever post the main site. I thought my email was banned for some odd reason, but then I get this email.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Yeah its the Supers because a day before and up to the day of election he got Superdelegates thats what put him over the top

Thanks Rick V....was there a post somewhere about who committed to him?

[Rick V]

I'm mad because a Super I think Maxine Powers from my home town of Los Angeles started as a Clinton Supporter but move to nobama on election day last night

[Destiny]

Another question I have concerning the "presumptive nominee"...On Tuesday night as the results were coming in, how did Obama get the delegates? I thought there was no way he could reach the number. Were there superdelegates who committed to him at the same time the results were coming in from SD and MT?

I thought that was strange too, and I was watching Jay Leno last night and Conan O'Brien (both jerks) - anyway they both said that Obama was now the Nominee - but wait - I know for a fact that Jay Leno tapes his show at 3:30pst and Conan tapes early as well - so - I don't get it. Is this the same situation as the BBC reporting world trade center #7 had collapsed (5:30pm on Sept. 11,2001) when you can still see it in the background standing for a few minutes before collapsing? (google it). Something smells fishy!!!

Hillary knows the truth. And, I bet she has an explanation of what happened to world trade center #7 as well.

[hoanvu76]

The Democratic Party is Forcing Hillary to support BO, or her Senate Position is in Jeopardy, which will prevent her from doing more good work for Americans.

I am leaving the "Un-Democratic" party and becoming Indy or Repub.

Never BO

[sansupporter]

I admire Hillary and know what she stands for, but have absolutely no idea when it comes to BO.
(I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNOW THE REAL BHO!):confused:
I cannot and will not vote for BHO without Hillary on ticket.:(

[CriticalOne]

No, the AP had reported very early in the day that by the end of the night they were projecting him to be the presumptive nominee.

[Laura Cereta]

Hillary can do what she wants. She is a smart woman and I have the utmost respect for her and her decisions. I will not support Obama, though. I don't want to see a unified Democratic Party. I want BO to lose in Nov.

I also don't want 1/2 a vote. I was screwed out of a voice in this contest and I will still be in Denver, expressing myself on this. I hope to see some of you there. I will still write supers, as BO is vetted and torn to shreds by the GOP, and remind them that Hillary is the stronger, better candidate.

Only after the convention will I accept BO as the nominee, as he is not officially so before then. If that happens, I will do everything I can to ensure his defeat including voting and promoting McCain. Then it's HRC 2012!

[Spagpusher]

There were like 35 SDs that came out within a couple of hours of each other to endorse Obama. He only needed 40 according to their count. By 3 pm central time (my time zone) he was only 7 delegates away and the polls still had another 5/6 hours left in SD/MT. He probably got those 7 shortly after I left for work at 3:30.

No conspiracy theory on this one. The SDs did just what they said they would do .... come in waves to support him... not even waiting for the polls to close.

Makes me sick, too! They've been so blatant all of this time, but that was just the final kick in the teeth to her ... and to all of the good people who voted for her - especially those last two states.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Hillary can do what she wants. She is a smart woman and I have the utmost respect for her and her decisions. I will not support Obama, though. I don't want to see a unified Democratic Party. I want BO to lose in Nov.

I also don't want 1/2 a vote. I was screwed out of a voice in this contest and I will still be in Denver, expressing myself on this. I hope to see some of you there. I will still write supers, as BO is vetted and torn to shreds by the GOP, and remind them that Hillary is the stronger, better candidate.

Only after the convention will I accept BO as the nominee, as he is not officially so before then. If that happens, I will do everything I can to ensure his defeat including voting and promoting McCain. Then it's HRC 2012!
Well, I just went over to the CNN ticker and there was the most snotty and hateful entry by Carl Bernstein...I cannot stand that BASTARD..this is my comment...it is awaiting moderation...yeah right...ROFLMAO....

Well, well, well…another totally biased article filled with lies. If you have a fact or legitimate information, then cite your source…yeah right, you cannot because you do not have one! I am sure my comment will not get through the censors, since everyone knows CNN should really be re-named the Obama for President network.

[CGP]

Carl Bernstein - say no more! The man needs serious therapy. Diagnosis - pathological hatred of Hillary Clinton. :eek:

[takakupo]

I GOT IT!

still sad.

[samkm]

There were like 35 SDs that came out within a couple of hours of each other to endorse Obama. He only needed 40 according to their count. By 3 pm central time (my time zone) he was only 7 delegates away and the polls still had another 5/6 hours left in SD/MT. He probably got those 7 shortly after I left for work at 3:30.

No conspiracy theory on this one. The SDs did just what they said they would do .... come in waves to support him... not even waiting for the polls to close.

Makes me sick, too! They've been so blatant all of this time, but that was just the final kick in the teeth to her ... and to all of the good people who voted for her - especially those last two states.

But first they aired a story using AP that she had gotten out of the race. This was the last day of primary and it was all over the airways in South Dakota and I head about it from a voter!

[Peppermint Patty]

This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!

Thankfully this entire campaign has reminded me why I have ZERO interest in being affiliated with any political party. Independence is the ONLY way to go for me, that way one can retain independent thought and not feel compelled to support a failed candidate for the sake of "unity"! :rolleyes:

Onwards to Denver!

Exactly. We've known all along if she didn't get the nom she would have to support or get behind BO. That was a given. She is a Democrat through and through. And we know she has to ask us, her loyal die-hard supporters, to support and vote for BO. Doesn't mean we have to do that.

I'm pretty sure she is well aware of our disdain for BO. At any rate, it's a dog and pony show from here on out.

Meow. :p

[Spagpusher]

Yep, yep, yep ... and Terry Mac was all over it within 5 minutes. He deserves a bouquet of flowers from Hillary's supporters. Maybe we should all pitch in a dollar and send him some?!

[Alessandro Machi]

Yeah its the Supers because a day before and up to the day of election he got Superdelegates thats what put him over the top

You can thank MSNBC and Huffington Post for putting the pressure on. In case you missed it, Huffington Post Pundits were appearing on MSNBC during the day to press the Hillary must quit perspective.

[Comet]

I personally do not think Hillary should give up she won the main states the people have not spoken just the delegates and like they said on the news they can still change their minds i would never vote for obama he is scarier than bush in my opinion i would switch over to republican obama would never get my vote. :(:mad:

I Think hillary needs to keep fighting :D

[MarkMiller]

You can thank MSNBC and Huffington Post for putting the pressure on. In case you missed it, Huffington Post Pundits were appearing on MSNBC during the day to press the Hillary must quit perspective.

I missed that....but I usualy turn the channel when the pundits start talking.

[Laura Cereta]

Well, I just read the article and Bernstein is definitely a piece of work. Hillary's a politician and she'll do what she needs to do. That article is crap, though... a bunch of unnamed sources?! Talk about 0% credibility... :mad::rolleyes:

[lanesharon]

I replied, and I believe we all should reply. Here is mine:


Sorry, Hillary, I cannot rally behind Barack Obama. And, I won't. That is not an empty promise. It is a fact. You, personally, will always have my support. But, even you cannot talk me into voting for this man. I wish you, your family, and your staff the best in everything you choose to do.

Take Care, Sharon

[hills]

Everything I have learned about Hillary in this primary tells me she is going to continue fighting. Hillary never gives up. She would have given up months ago but she didn't. She saw what happened to Michigan and Florida. It was wrong and Hillary knows if nothing is done those two states are going to the GOP. She told the people of Puerto Rico that in her first term they would begin talks of their statehood. This was after Michigan and Florida where Hillary got to see the power of the people who are trying to push her out of the race. I read here that someone asked her to fight for Michigan and she said twice that she will. She knows that Obambi cheated in the caucuses. She has always said that she is in it to win it. She also said in her speech that all votes should be counted. She talked about having the popular vote and her Electoral college being 308.

I believe that Hillary is going to fight on because we all know that the DNC changed the rules to try to help Obambi reach the magic new number which Hillary's campaign never accepted. I feel she is going to Denver but I need reassurance. The Hillary Rodham Clinton I know would never allow being cheated out of the nomination knowing the dangers America is facing. She has met too many people that need her to just let Obambi and the corrupt DNC continue their path to destruction.

[Lillian]

Exactly. We've known all along if she didn't get the nom she would have to support or get behind BO. That was a given. She is a Democrat through and through. And we know she has to ask us, her loyal die-hard supporters, to support and vote for BO. Doesn't mean we have to do that.

I'm pretty sure she is well aware of our disdain for BO. At any rate, it's a dog and pony show from here on out.

Meow. :p

I hope she doesn't get tarnished by the Obama scandals that'll finally see the light of day. She should keep a respectful distance...

What about Al Gore? His silence has been deafening. Hope he won't be waiting to jump in at the convention to 'save the day'. Hmmm

[Peace]

I think you are correct. She states it right in the email she sent tonight, that she will continue to fight. She is absolutely not a quitter. It's not over till she says it's over -- unequivocally; and the email I received does not say it's over.

[Sylvia]

Why not I signed up and donated a few times not a lot but what I could afford and I always got emails; they sent emails asking to help make calls here in her campaing office, to join rallies, and even to invite me to attend the events that HILLARY made here in CA. I got reg emails from her campaing

Maybe it went into your junk box. Sometimes that seems to happen to my emails so I have to check there before erasing everything.

[Rick V]

my emails from her never got sent into the junk emails I always got them along with my reg emails

[hills]

I think you are correct. She states it right in the email she sent tonight, that she will continue to fight. She is absolutely not a quitter. It's not over till she says it's over -- unequivocally; and the email I received does not say it's over.


I just read that email after seeing Murray's and I am in shock.

[Peace]

I just read that email after seeing Murray's and I am in shock.

So what's your take on it then? I believe it's carefully worded to keep all her options on the table, and to let us know she's still here with us . . . I think we should not yet despair.

[LadyVT]

Things to make you smile, even if you've been in tears, like me (really, it works!). Imagine...

1) ... the DNC when it finally dawns on them that BO's young supporters don't care about them, won't work for their candidates, won't vote in non-BO elections (CA had fewer than 10% of citizens voting in our primary yesterday) and won't send any money to them.
2) ... Donna Brazille's face when CNN plays the RNC anti-BO "no experience" ads (they sure did get those out FAST! and they are great!)
3) ... any of the DNC as they struggle to understand why the pundits are turning on BO (which they are starting to do now)
4) ... any of the DNC as they are forced to observe the polls as BO drops, drops, drops
5) ... BO getting indicted
6) ... BO being forced to denounce cousin Odinga, Black Liberation Theology, and all kinds of other stuff and people
7) ... MO when she realizes her husband is a loser and she won't get near the White House
8) ... the Obamabots when the whitey tape finally hits
9) ... BO's response to the US Attorney General's warning to Chicago politicians (oh, wait, that happened yesterday, but we haven't heard his response...hm...).
10) ... the public as it begins to realize that BO is just another shady politician
11) ... BO's walk of shame as he is forced to surrender the nomination (or Presidency)
12) ... Hillary's triumphant smile when she becomes President!

(feel free to add your own--spread the smiling!)

[lalene]

she still has hope guys! if it were to be over then she would have made a decision and conceded allready! come on guys.. anything can happen - especially in this election process.

[ImmaSlave4U]

:confused::confused:

The eMail I got from Hillary tonight didn't sound like she would continue to fight. She sounded to me like she will help Obama fight. :(

[RE:]

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YES, YES, YES... We heard you, we just don't like what we're hearing. We understand that was the Party directive and they would have booted you earlier if you had really said what you wanted to. But don't worry, we're used to filtering out BO praises, so it's not a problem for us... We can handle it but could you change your voice so we don't think it's really coming from you?

There's still time for the DNC and SDs to wake up, and we'll try to stir them from their sleep while you go and try to sell a very flawed product.

Damn It, PA...Your making me cry and it's NOT a pretty site, let me tell you!

And to see the money meter gone here??...ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME!!! I CHOSE THAT PART, specifically, in this 'screenplay'...I was just getting started, DAMN IT!!!!

[lalene]

she has to say she will support BO, or else the DNC, media, and Obamabots will go crazy and accuse her of destroying the party. ahhh we need to make this clear to one another! :)

[ImmaSlave4U]

^ I don't know if I buy that.

[Peace]

I think it is open to interpretation. She herself has been quoting one of her supporters, stating "it's not over until the lady in the pantsuit says it's over." I don't see her saying that in this email. I think if she was saying it, she would state it loud and clear. She states that she supports BO's candidacy, and that she had always said she would support him if he became the nominee (which he has not yet done). I do believe it's worded carefully enough to keep some of the heat off, yet keep her options on the table.

[Angelica91]

A few minutes ago, I woke up and received the Hillary email ... I am very disappointed. She always said ... we are going to go to the convention and now what she is doing? NO! She is disappointing me!
do she want to be VP?She can also take it... but I was disappointed too!:(

[CriticalOne]

Well, those options seem very likely to be put on-hold, indefinitely, on Saturday. To me, it seems quite clear that her reference to continuing the fight doesn't seem to be continuing it as a presidential candidate. Everyone that concedes in a presidential nomination process or loses a general election assures their supporters that they will continue to fight for what they believe it. I'm not sure if it does anyone any good to keep reading into this things that can not possibly be read into the decision, or to continue to deny that it's becoming more increasingly likely that she's not going to continue the fight as a presidential nominee. That's not to say that she's not going to hold her delegates in case something happens, but I think she's done campaigning for herself. Where we can find solace is that she's obviously gained enough support that should Obama implode she'll be the undisputed reserve candidate.

[CGP]

Where we can find solace is that she's obviously gained enough support that should Obama implode she'll be the undisputed reserve candidate.

She really doesn't need to do anything now. She has completed her campaign - everyone knows the deal. She is widely known. She can sit back and watch what happens between BO/JM in the coming months. If the DNC wakes up and BO tanks in the polls, we can only hope that justice will prevail and HC will be chosen as the nominee at the convention.

[Peace]

Point taken, CriticalOne. But with the primaries over with, the campaigning is basically over with anyway, except for what goes on behind the scenes. I'm only saying that the wording, and not conceding, keeps her options open. As you said, she keeps her delegates, and we'll see what transpires.

[Mrsawd]

I agree I Pray that she listens to what her people want !

She is so much better than Obama in every way !

[jencul]

I didn't get the email so i'm gonna stay in denial. I know she has to do this and I know its not the end but this is just too damn sad. shes the only person i really believe in. especially after this primary i will never see a lot of people i used to have respect for in the same way again and i will never defend the democrats again not even when people are way out of line. i will just remember how they totally failed to stand up for the principles and people i thought they represented and how they completely screwed my childhood heroes and their best advocates. **** them, if i do ever get to move to America, i will just have to find something else to do with my life, political parties are not the future and certainly not my future. my only loyalty now is to Hillary nomatter what happens.

[Peace]

I didn't get the email so i'm gonna stay in denial. I know she has to do this and I know its not the end but this is just too damn sad. shes the only person i really believe in. especially after this primary i will never see a lot of people i used to have respect for in the same way again and i will never defend the democrats again not even when people are way out of line. i will just remember how they totally failed to stand up for the principles and people i thought they represented and how they completely screwed my childhood heroes and their best advocates. **** them, if i do ever get to move to America, i will just have to find something else to do with my life, political parties are not the future and certainly not my future. my only loyalty now is to Hillary nomatter what happens.

Murray put a copy of Senator Clinton's email at the top of this thread, if you want to read it.

[AlexG]

1. Hillary
2. McCain

Ditto with Santiago. I have my reasons, and hate isn't one of it. I believe in experience, proven result service records, patriotism, and all americans created equal regardless of their believes in religions and gun rights, and I believe in a well managed process of becoming a citizen of this country or the right to drive in this country.

[deniseds]

I agree with you Alex G. I woke up this morning and got my Email from Hillary. I will vote John McCain if I have to and just wait and see what happens. I still am very sad that she has been treated this way. I will never vote for BO.

[Latina4Hillary]

Hillary will keep her delegates. She and her delegation will be a powerful influence on the party's platform and can press for inclusion of some of her plans, i.e., Universal Health Care, Green Jobs...

It is important for her to keep all her delegates and bring more support to her side. She needs to go to the convention surrounded by strong and loyal support. Hillary needs us, her supporters, to continue our work. Hillary's delegates need to hear from us. Thank them for their support. We want them to stand by our girl!

Her super delegates must be under constant pressure to switch to the other guy.

I'm not giving up!!! Hillary can win the nomination at the convention. She should not accept the VP spot.

[Angelica91]

I think she will accept it!

[houna]

I also replyed to her emails and told her I will not vote for him not even for her. I also told I am leaving the party with others. Unlike SD my vote is mine and I do what I think is right not to pacify some one else.
I just wish her guts and fighting extend to leaving the party. That is the right move.

[winterlongone]

She really doesn't need to do anything now. She has completed her campaign - everyone knows the deal. She is widely known. She can sit back and watch what happens between BO/JM in the coming months. If the DNC wakes up and BO tanks in the polls, we can only hope that justice will prevail and HC will be chosen as the nominee at the convention.

good point, murray!

i too received the email. makes me sick at heart (said something similar in the "where do we go from here" thread), but:

denver hasn't happened yet.

that's what i am now waiting for.

[EH]

I got the email as well...though I completely understand her position, that doesn't oblige me to support Obama. HAD THIS BEEN A FAIR PRIMARY WITH RESPECT OF DEONTOLOGY AND DEMOCRACY, AND WITHOUT THE RESORTING TO VULGARITY AND VIOLENCE AS DID OBAMA SUPPORTERS, I WOULD HAVE BACKED HIM. I will have no part of the Democrats anymore.

[takakupo]

I can't stop being sad :(
Someone replay her wins.

[Angelica91]

I can't stop being sad :(
Someone replay her wins.
I am crying without stoping!:(
Now I feel so angry and sad...I don't believe in anybody!I am sooo angry with DNC! My travel to America won't happen!:mad:

[nette60]

After reading the Headlines in the Washington Post I checked my email and had the letter from the Campaign also. Its a real hard day for me.....Post also states she is courting VP slot...I think Ob k nows that he needs her and Bill after all. She is under enormous pressure to do this...(I think even from Bill )I just wish she wouldn't.Whats the next

[hills]

I can't stop being sad :(
Someone replay her wins.


You aren't the only one. Everything I know about Hillary pointed to her taking it to Denver so I just don't get it. Hillary Clinton doesn't let someone steal her delegates. She can't save the party, it is too corrupted anyone can see that.

[Angelica91]

Hillary is my dream and now my dream is died!
But do you remember what Bill said?? This race would be the last race for him...:(Uff I feel so sad!

[ShyFire]

Please read this passage from Murray- daily! He is 100% correct. This is politics!

And strategy is the name of the game.

Before anyone jumps to any conclusions- remember, actions speak LOUDER than words. She doesn't need to "clear her throat" as a signal. She has SUSPENDED her campaign- not conceded. That, my friends, IS the signal. It signals that this is just another move on the chess board.

Laura Ingraham said it best last night..lol. "Oh, yea, she suspended her campaign, WINK,WINK"

GET IT?





This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!


Onwards to Denver!

[mjoynaples]

It's politics.

Just remember, she can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination.

plus don't believe everything the media spins and "onto DENVER!!" (my new t-shirt!)

[endodoc79]

I received five copies of the email, one for everyone in my family. Aren't computers amazing! Well, it says what she has to say. Alot of times it's not what you say, but what you dont say that counts. She is a principled person, but she knows the game and how it's played. She's keeping her options open- and I for one will be in Denver supporting her and her platform. The Rezko verdict yesterday was interesting and as a former real estate salesperson I am still talking about the $350K gift from Rezko to Obama so he could buy the mansion in Kenwood that he could not afford. I am sure that the fact that is illegal is not lost on Patrick Fitzgerald. His work continues. I will also be writing superdelegates to remind them of what is going on. People must be held accountable for their decisions and we all know this decision by the DNC goes against the will of the people, especially since in Feb. Donna Brazile said the decision on the nominee should not be made by the superdelegates, but by the people.

[nette60]

Remember who is controlling the Media.....They are mostly to blame in all this as well as the Supers......This is why we need to make a statement in November. Even if Hillary is on the ticket with Obama....No Vote from me..We have to do this to save democracy. Otherwise why bother. Just become a communist country. This is about more than this one election

[thebword]

This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!

Thankfully this entire campaign has reminded me why I have ZERO interest in being affiliated with any political party. Independence is the ONLY way to go for me, that way one can retain independent thought and not feel compelled to support a failed candidate for the sake of "unity"! :rolleyes:

Onwards to Denver!

Ditto, terrific analysis.:)

[Mrs L]

MURRAY WRITES:
But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please help me understand........HOW??

WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBABLE PROCEDURE?

[nette60]

I received five copies of the email, one for everyone in my family. Aren't computers amazing! Well, it says what she has to say. Alot of times it's not what you say, but what you dont say that counts. She is a principled person, but she knows the game and how it's played. She's keeping her options open- and I for one will be in Denver supporting her and her platform. The Rezko verdict yesterday was interesting and as a former real estate salesperson I am still talking about the $350K gift from Rezko to Obama so he could buy the mansion in Kenwood that he could not afford. I am sure that the fact that is illegal is not lost on Patrick Fitzgerald. His work continues. I will also be writing superdelegates to remind them of what is going on. People must be held accountable for their decisions and we all know this decision by the DNC goes against the will of the people, especially since in Feb. Donna Brazile said the decision on the nominee should not be made by the superdelegates, but by the people.

She also said she didn't need White blue collar workers..and that she was uncommitted..what a hypocrite..

[Eridon]

She doesn't mention suspending or conceding...

She mentions "supporting" Obama...this does not equal "endorsing"...

Make of it what you will ;)

(bolded part done by me)

"...RALLY OUR SUPPORT BEHIND OBAMA." What is there to get? Clearly, this is a concession based on fear of McCain. This has been the alibi of her traitors all along, the excuse to ruin her image in the media.

As we know, supers don't mean sh*t in the general.

[Eridon]

Now what?? Move to Canada.

[ShyFire]

Jolene-

By suspending her campaign, she keeps her delegates and her name on the ballot for roll call in Denver.

In the next ten weeks, it will be apparent to everyone whether or not BO is going to be able to withstand the GOP. IF he is wounded by the upcoming onslaught- like the whitey tape or just him losing debates- there will be an OUT for the delegation.

Do not forget, HE DID NOT RECEIVE the required number of PLEDGED (EARNED) delegates to secure the nomination. He was carried over the finish line by the 'promise' of votes from the Super-d's. He is on thin ice- he really is. If he gaffes enough to show that he IS unelectable- the delegation will have no choice but to vote for the candidate that can beat McCain.

Lots of IF's, yes. But, this is politics.. and, that's how it is.




MURRAY WRITES:
But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please help me understand........HOW??

WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBABLE PROCEDURE?

[hillaryhoosier]

The NY democratic council will endorse Obama Friday at 1 PM, and many of Hillary's other SD supporters will do so this week too. It's so sad. :(

[Eridon]

After reading the Headlines in the Washington Post I checked my email and had the letter from the Campaign also. Its a real hard day for me.....Post also states she is courting VP slot...I think Ob k nows that he needs her and Bill after all. She is under enormous pressure to do this...(I think even from Bill )I just wish she wouldn't.Whats the next

She's got the popular vote, what is she afraid of? And the supers have until August. What has she got to lose? This keeps happening to all the good ones. What if they didn't cave in to pressure? Look at all the sweeps she had by not caving in -- O. was LOSING!

[Angelica91]

Guys, we all in our hearts know that would have happened! I hope only she knows what she's doing...

[Kbentleyis]

I just don't know what to think. I read my email about 1:30 this morning. I'm feeling so confused right now.

[hillaryhoosier]

She's got the popular vote, what is she afraid of? And the supers have until August. What has she got to lose? This keeps happening to all the good ones. What if they didn't cave in to pressure? Look at all the sweeps she had by not caving in -- O. was LOSING!

I honestly think the DNC has basically told her she HAS to do this. She can remain in the Senate because she played nice to the party.

But if she were to fight it then when Obama falls it would look like it was her.

Now, it will be HIS fault.

So really in a way she was kind of doomed if she does and doomed if she doesn't.

[Brooke]

Support to me is:

I will smile and tell all the 20 nothings I know " Yep I guess you were right." But when I'M alone in that booth, I'll be pushing a button I have never pushed before.

You and the rest of us..lol.

I feel like I'm in ALIAS and everything Hillary says is code for something.:D

This is the best decision for her. Does anybody know what time this thing is suspposed to happen? I want to make sure I set the VCR since I won't be here.

[hills]

I honestly think the DNC has basically told her she HAS to do this. She can remain in the Senate because she played nice to the party.

But if she were to fight it then when Obama falls it would look like it was her.

Now, it will be HIS fault.

So really in a way she was kind of doomed if she does and doomed if she doesn't.



How can she trust them after all the betrayal?

[martreasures]

Hi Friends I am new here I was trying to find a news outlet that was pro-Hillary. I was looking toward the main street media but I found none, the voice of reason from the networks does not exist...but I found you nice folks and now I am feeling better..but I must say as a long time Dem who has voted in every election since 1968. I am so sad that our party has sunk to such a new low...there is no way I can vote for the obamanation about to be hoisted upon us ..no matter what is said by my past party I will vote John Mccain ..yesterday with great sadness I contacted the wisconsin Democratic and quit the party...the person I blame most is Howard Dean, the man who was laughed off his own election trail..so what does the DNC do they make him their leader...they deserve too loose...we love you Hillary....J&m

[Dendy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V47-HRJUxmM&feature=related

[takakupo]

You aren't the only one. Everything I know about Hillary pointed to her taking it to Denver so I just don't get it. Hillary Clinton doesn't let someone steal her delegates. She can't save the party, it is too corrupted anyone can see that.

We need ice cream or something.

[martreasures]

Hi Friends I am new here I was trying to find a news outlet that was pro-Hillary. I was looking toward the main street media but I found none, the voice of reason from the networks does not exist...but I found you nice folks and now I am feeling better..but I must say as a long time Dem who has voted in every election since 1968. I am so sad that our party has sunk to such a new low...there is no way I can vote for the obamanation about to be hoisted upon us ..no matter what is said by my past party I will vote John Mccain ..yesterday with great sadness I contacted the wisconsin Democratic and quit the party...the person I blame most is Howard Dean, the man who was laughed off his own election trail..so what does the DNC do they make him their leader...they deserve too loose...we love you Hillary....J&m

[ShyFire]

No way, jeffers- not yet.

In no way will we unite behind obama- not a chance in HELL. Especially during this transparent drive by the DNC to get us to "fall in line". uh, huh.. no way.

Obama did not receive the earned delegates needed to secure the nomination- he was carried across the finish line by "promises" of votes from the supers. They have not voted yet.

NOW is the time to push back- not surrender!

Are you sure you're with Hillary?:confused:



I also got the email, and find it sad, though not unexpected. Hillary ran a hard fought campaign, and I am proud to have been a part of it. I'm proud of every call I made, every dollar I donated, and every word I blogged. I do not think it was wasted effort or money. Hillary is the candidate in this election I most admired, and whom I think would make the best President.

That said, I think it is false hope to assume that this email means anything more or less than what it says. Hillary has stated many times that if she didn't get the nomination she'd work hard for the candidate who did. That is something I deeply respect her for, since I don't know if I could in her position.

Hillary has said that she wants the party to unify. Given the virtual identical positions that she and the Illinois Senator have, it makes sense to support the Democrat over McCain and four more years of right wing ideology. I fully expect Hillary to use the word 'endorse" on Saturday, and to ask us to support him in his bid for the White House. Out of respect for Hillary, that's exactly what I intend to do. Others may do what they wish, but I cannot in good conscience vote for a candidate who would perpetuate the damaging policies Bush has fostered on this country for eight years. Likewise, I will not abstain from exercising my right and obligation come November. Our nation has suffered enough. Please think about it.

[Leekosagrios]

Everyone has to remember that she's forced to publicly express her support for BOzo, but she's not ending her campaign. She's decided to step aside for the moment, that's all.

[Calico]

A few weeks ago, there was discussion that Hillary would suspend, not concede, when Obama had enough delegates to be the nominee. So, I was expecting this to happen. Several in the media, have indicated, that Hillary is going to keep a lower profile and wait for Obama to implode. And, she will be ready when they need her.

It is now a wait and see game. We can not take on a defeated attitude, that is what the DNC and Obama want. For us, her supporters, we must keep the faith. And, we need to keep our eyes and ears open on anything that pertains to Obama and let the media, especially Fox or Lou Dobbs, know, if we find out anything "interesting"! There is a long of time between now and the convention. A lot can happen!

[Karen Keefe]

conceding, she keeps her pledged delegates, can "endorse" Obama just like the supers have "endorsed" BO and Hillary and then changed their minds throughout the primary, and then she can still raise money to pay off her campaign debt.

Smart move. Hillary knows politics as much as BO does--she just doesn't blatantly cheat like he does with the blessing of DNC/Donna/Nanncy/Howard et al. A big shame on you to Charlie Rangel of NY, one of Hillary's most ardent supporters, who tossed his SD support to BO, along with the other SD's of no courage, to make the current, changeable delegate number. These people have no guts at all and are willing to throw away even more of what's left of our democracy.

I'm from TX--major caucus cheating here, as well as in NV, WA and other states. BO and Axelrod started his campaign in 2004, with BO visiting college campuses and promoting his books so all the kids would know him and become his bussed in caucus army. BO and Axelrod and co. also studied the Dem. primary system, understood that grabbing delegates in every state, even the red states one wouldn't get in November and in Dem. states where even the loser of popular votes gets a high % of delegates, was how to win.
THAT is how he won delegates--it was great political strategy. Not saying I like it or the massive cheating that occurred, and I think there should be a legal protest of the whole caucus results.

Hillary, on the other hand, worked in Congress, didn't go to IA early enough, planned for the Feb. knockout punch in major states, lost the momentum with FL and MI debacles, which DNC and BO planned from day one IMO, and then she won more states, got stronger and stronge and ended up with the popular vote. By then BO/DNC/Howard, Nancy, Donna/GOP/Soros/Huffiington/Media had all done their hatchet jobs.

I'm all for Hillary going to Denver. I am also horrified at the methods of the BO/GOP/Karl Rove junta that attacked the one true Democratic leader left in this country.

Anybody keep a record of the media bias for BO and against Hillary? Time allocated to each, positive vs. negative comments to shape opinion and suppress votes, blatant and massive misogyny directed at Hillary and by extension all women.

The misogyny by these non-journalists, fed by BO, his cult, bipartisan party leaders, foreign and domestic terrorists, has been building against Hillary since she was a strong, outspoken courageous First Lady and maybe even sooner. Seeing her come so very far in the public arena under such attacks from all sides incited these primitive males and their primitive females who curry favor with them to keep their jobs or status to unleash a torrent of vitriol for 16 straight months. Dean, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Daschle, Reid, Donna, the DNC, the GOP, the media "journalists," and the man who wants to be our leader, BO could have stopped this hate speech against Hillary and all us women. BO could have tamed his followers with the same amount of energy he used to incite them to violence in word and action.

Keep your delegates, Hillary. Play the game. We know you won't play it Chicago style. Rise, Hillary, rise.

Murray, it's a long post, one of a very few from me--I hope you'll consider posting it.

Hang in, team. We are the guardians of democracy.

[smsemedic]

ok gang....i was in a total depression yesterday. my husband and i were just having coffee on our porch and he had some uplifting words for me.....sounded like he is a brother of murray....
"she is moving into clinton mode.....there is no way a woman with that power, holding the major cards that she has, would concede. she is making the speech saturday to get the thugs off her back. she is going to lay in the weeds, and wait.....she will be back......don't underestimate the clintons....they are the sharpest politicians we have."
just thought i would share that with you.....it gives me a little encouragement.

[shadow]

She really has no choices at this point. She is being pressured.

She said she will "congratulate OB", but I hope she doesn't plan to "go on the campaign with him". I can't see her doing that though, if for no other reason, Michelle wouldn't allow it.

Hillary has to be graceful now. But it is a long time until Denver and if they do manage to prove all the dirt on OB, things can change.

In the meantime, I still feel we need to make some sort of "MCCaincrats" thing as a big message to these DNC people.

I cringe when I hear them say "time to unify". I would be all for unifying the democratic party, if there still was a democratic party. This thing, I don't know what it became, but "democratic"? not.

[Angelica91]

Guys, but Hillary said this...I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.
She intends to deliver on that promise...:mad:

[Tea toaD]

ok gang....i was in a total depression yesterday. my husband and i were just having coffee on our porch and he had some uplifting words for me.....sounded like he is a brother of murray....
"she is moving into clinton mode.....there is no way a woman with that power, holding the major cards that she has, would concede. she is making the speech saturday to get the thugs off her back. she is going to lay in the weeds, and wait.....she will be back......don't underestimate the clintons....they are the sharpest politicians we have."
just thought i would share that with you.....it gives me a little encouragement.

I agree, this is so true. She is also showing that she is NOT divisive as she was being made to look like during this long Primary process. She is noble and a true patriot. Also, she isn't going to act spoiled like someone else we know. She has class:)

[jerseygirl7]

Do you think they would...what about Spector? Do you think he would make good on his threat? Wouldn't that be great!

What happened in Iowa between Edwards, Richardson and Nobama?
Can't imagine that the FBI would do anything but we can hope. Yeah, Spector should step up to the plate!! Now would be a good time!

Just read this morning how NJ is questioning if they should have kept our Primary in June? Doesn't it figure. She could have gotten the lion's share of our 157 delegates. Damn. There is so much buyers remorse talk going on in NJ right now that she would done even better than she did in February.

[Dendy]

She really has no choices at this point. She is being pressured.

She said she will "congratulate OB", but I hope she doesn't plan to "go on the campaign with him". I can't see her doing that though, if for no other reason, Michelle wouldn't allow it.

Hillary has to be graceful now. But it is a long time until Denver and if they do manage to prove all the dirt on OB, things can change.

In the meantime, I still feel we need to make some sort of "MCCaincrats" thing as a big message to these DNC people.

I agree 100%

[yaelbelle]

Hillary's campaign didn't want to spam donors or other folks who didn't want extra email. In order to get her email updates, you had to go to the "join" section, and sign up for emails from her there.

[Lodi]

It's politics.

Just remember, she can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination.

EXACTLY! I wish people would bear this in mind. She's suspending not quitting her run. She maintains her delegates, and as we have seen in just one day after his reaching the presumptive nominee position, Obama's already being slammed and vetted the way he should have been at the outset.

I can hear the chickens in the distance--"Ba-waaaack, Ba-waaack"--coming home...to roost.

Patience and faith, everyone.

[Christines]

I believe that as long as she suspends she can still retain delegates and donations!

[hills]

ok gang....i was in a total depression yesterday. my husband and i were just having coffee on our porch and he had some uplifting words for me.....sounded like he is a brother of murray....
"she is moving into clinton mode.....there is no way a woman with that power, holding the major cards that she has, would concede. she is making the speech saturday to get the thugs off her back. she is going to lay in the weeds, and wait.....she will be back......don't underestimate the clintons....they are the sharpest politicians we have."
just thought i would share that with you.....it gives me a little encouragement.


Well that did make me feel good. It does give me encouragement too.

[yaelbelle]

I know I am a hold out. But I do believe that she has looked at the numbers, looked at the money, and even looked at their legacy. I believe she has come to the conclusion that she can't become President if she burns all her bridges with the DNC. I believe she is a woman of honor and will stand by her word. I believe she is letting the DNC lie in the bed they made. I believe if all works out well, with a little luck, Obama will implode and they will have to court her back.
And I still do not read "concede!"

[swannyj]

I woke up even angrier this morning because it has finally penetrated this thick scull Hillary never had a chance. The Script was written a long time ago we just didn't know it. Hillary however fought with all her might and she kicked BO's but, but the script was written and it is for naught. Of course she is being pressured out of that, there is no doubt.
Unlike you guys I don't believe anything will knock him out at this point. Obama doesn't give a s*** about this country and would never willingly step down, especially since he is running from having to face up to his part in the board games. The DNC has shown us they have no intention of changing the script they wrote, and evidently the SDs lack the backbone to act on the will of the people.

[ssmith]

TO ALL THOSE YOU ARE GIVING UP AND THINK SHE IS GIVING UP:

1) Politics a games, and Bill and Hillary are experts at it

2) At this point the media and the DNC are living in such a state of denial of BO, the drumbeats are LOUD for hillary to not contest this.

BUT BUT BUT BUT

3)I read that email, and one thing that struck out at me:

She said she "SUPPORTS" NOT "ENDORSES" the fraud..

And she is, she is SUSPENDING NOT CONCEDING her campaign.

This means, she is going to lay low for a while, probably do some fundraisers for him, campaign a little for him , BUT now that she acknowledges he is the "presumtive nominee", it clears the path for the GOP to go after him.

There is a lot of info we know that the general public DOES NOT, and it will shock them, and the media (right- leaning), will EXPOSE IT ALL!

And some of it is SO BAD, that by the time august comes ard, he will be losing to Mccain EVEN MORE!

so, do not give any $$ to the DNC, remeber she is doing this b/c she has to, this campaigning for him. If you wanna give $$ give directly to hillary via
hillaryclinton.com

In the meantime, leave the dem. party, even snail them your card if you want, sign up with the RNC's "Clinton's for Mccain", you don't have to give any $$ to Mccain, but the sheer number of people of clinton supporters going to mccain will be public and wake the DNC up.

This is not over, she has to lay low for the story line to change, and that;s can't happen until the spotlight is HARSHLY and BRIGHTLY on that arrogant fruad

[Lodi]

She really has no choices at this point. She is being pressured.

She said she will "congratulate OB", but I hope she doesn't plan to "go on the campaign with him". I can't see her doing that though, if for no other reason, Michelle wouldn't allow it.

Hillary has to be graceful now. But it is a long time until Denver and if they do manage to prove all the dirt on OB, things can change.

In the meantime, I still feel we need to make some sort of "MCCaincrats" thing as a big message to these DNC people.

I cringe when I hear them say "time to unify". I would be all for unifying the democratic party, if there still was a democratic party. This thing, I don't know what it became, but "democratic"? not.

Here-here!

I especially agree with your suggestion for some sort of "McCainorcrats" organization. Even though as of June 3 I'm no longer a Democrat, and even though many HillRods are not Dems, the name of the group has to get across the point that the base "won't be staying home" (take that, Brazile nut!) but, if it comes to it, voting for McCain.

What does everyone think of Shadow's suggestion??

(As I write this, Sen. Claire McTraitorskill is saying how much the party needs Hillary and her supporters. She's setting the scene for blaming Hillary if we don't vote the party line. We'll just have to show them that, unlike the Robamatons, we don't follow blindly, even if asked to by our leader.)

[Lodi]

ok gang....i was in a total depression yesterday. my husband and i were just having coffee on our porch and he had some uplifting words for me.....sounded like he is a brother of murray....
"she is moving into clinton mode.....there is no way a woman with that power, holding the major cards that she has, would concede. she is making the speech saturday to get the thugs off her back. she is going to lay in the weeds, and wait.....she will be back......don't underestimate the clintons....they are the sharpest politicians we have."
just thought i would share that with you.....it gives me a little encouragement.

I think hubby is right! I love the imagery!

(Does he have any single brothers in their early fifties? :D)

[mukunda22]

Don't worry everyone.

She has to support the dude--for now.

She's doing the right thing, although I pray she suspends rather than concedes.

Meanwhile, defecting from the Democratic Party feels like turning my back on dysfunction and pure psychosis.

Who needs it??

And if Hillary gets back in and wins the nomination, I will not come back into the fold.

Which means, I gotta get moving and become an official Independent. I have a problem with that because in PA, I lose my voice because you can't vote for a Democrat in a primary if registered Inde.

**SIGHS**

Well, if that's my only problem today, then I must be having a Magnificent Experience!! LOL!!

[yaelbelle]

Last thought:

McCain, movement to write her in, etc. will still not see my money unless or until I hear the word "concede" from Hillary, or if Obama actually gets the nomination in Denver.

[xfiles]

I'm disappointed but I guess if she wants a future in politics, she has to do this. I just don't see how she can though on principle.

She doesn't mention suspending or conceding...

She mentions "supporting" Obama...this does not equal "endorsing"...

Make of it what you will ;)

(bolded part done by me)

[Lodi]

Guys, but Hillary said this...[that she will support Obama IF he is the nominee...]
She intends to deliver on that promise...:mad:

It depends on what the meaning of "if" is...:D

[freespirit]

The democratic party can shove their unity!!!

well said. Sounds like a good song title.
:)

[Deepel]

I received the email this a.m. Very hard to read. But necessary on Hill's part. However, I am so glad to be able to come to this forum and still be able to not have to read the same BS. Thank you EVERYONE :). I know the DNC cast their vote in stone for BO a long time ago and they think that forcing HRC to be political and promote BO that will unify their stupid party. Well, maybe for some, but not for me, not now, not ever. I have seen enough backroom politics and MSM to take me through the rest of my life. And as a "typical white (italian) woman" I can forgive, but I won't forget. I finally completely understand where I belong, or is it "don't belong"??? Will change my party affiliation to Independent ASAP, will always be a HRC supporter, but if I have to, will vote McCain in 2008. My Dad is a WWII vet he used to like BO, loved his speech, bought his book, saw the beginning stages of his campaign (summer 2007) and looked at me and said, "That guy is arrogant." Voted for HRC in the primary, but now and is for the very first time in his life, voting Republican. YIKES!!!

[Lodi]

We need ice cream or something.

LOL!! :D On Tuesday night, I ate an entire quart--a freakin' quart--of low-fat ice cream. My stomache STILL hurts!!!!!!:eek:

[Qulin]

I know Hillary has to do what is right for the party but I just can't support Obama. I just don't feel that I can wait until August. That is just too much time for Obama. Also, its too much time for the democratic party.

If I give my money to Hillary it could possibly go to Obama. I guess I can only pray that Hillary gets the nomination in the end. Until then, I just gotta sit back from all this and make my final decision to support McCain.

I am so proud of those that have supported Hillary. We have all written letters, blogged, sent money, etc. It's nice to see this type of compassion for a candidate and to be a part of something as special as this. This time has been inspiring in itself.

Also, I just don't think I can watch Hillary speak on Saturday. I knew this time would most likely come but I just cannot see her support this guy. I do understand that some may not understand my position but its just too difficult for me.

In the meantime, I can only pray that things will change and I sincerely wish everyone the best with whatever they decide. Hillary supporters are the best group of people I have ever meant. :D

[Lodi]

Carl Bernstein - say no more! The man needs serious therapy. Diagnosis - pathological hatred of Hillary Clinton. :eek:

We can add the aptly named DICK Morris to that "he-man" (:eek:) Hillary Haters' club!

[Robin Orlowski]

It hurt reading, but I know facts now. It's not those false 'reports' which had been circulating to smear her.

Still, I cannot bring myself to support BO.

[joeysky18]

Guys, we all in our hearts know that would have happened! I hope only she knows what she's doing...

She always know what she's doing. She makes every decision by her own conviction. I remembered when she had problem with Bill. I had no ideal why her make her decision that way. But it was her decision and I respected that.
And look, it WAS the right decision. They worked it out. They're very much in love with each other.

I have no doubt that Hillary knows what she's doing. I trust her completely. It's for the best of the country in the long run, although we couldn't fathom the outcome yet.

[yaelbelle]

And I love that Hillary, ever so smart, chose slow-news-Saturday to give her support. By Monday morning, I am sure there will be better things for the MSM to be swarming over. Hopefully some gaffe by her rival.

[smsemedic]

I think hubby is right! I love the imagery!

(Does he have any single brothers in their early fifties? :D)

yes, the image is comforting.....
unfortunately, my hubby does not have any brothers.....
i will keep my eyes out for look-alikes tho!!!
it is odd.....my husband has this odd sixth sense about this election.
it is hills way or the highway for us!!!
but i agree.....
we need to re-channel our depression into a movement!!!
we need to send a message to the dnc nut-jobs....
we need a seriously catchy name.....
not just mccainocrats....
i will brainstorm today. look at what we have accomplished on this site......we are a huge united front.......
now let's rock and turn this party around!!!

[movingtous]

"I want the 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, heard & not invisible."

Okay, while we're all still invisible, we ought to walk into Obama's room and each smack him across the face. Maybe that'll bring him around, and he'll see us and not dead people.

[marcelmarcel]

Please relax!!!! This is far from over!
This is a war and Hillary is a great tactician. Wars are not linear. You often need to retreat to a sheltered area and regroup. I do not think Hillary is forced to retreat. She may be pressured. She cannot be forced. Nobody can force her, she is powerful. This is her choice: to retreat and regroup. Look, she cannot send an E-mail to her supporters: I am faking that I will support Obama, and I will wait for him to make a mistake....
Our job remains the same, to show that BO does not have a chance in the GE.
Personally, I will never vote for BO. For a very basic reason, beyond politics: survival and physical security. BO can be blackmailed big time. I do not want to put the security of my country in his hands.

[bangorgirl]

"I want the 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, heard & not invisible."

Okay, while we're all still invisible, we ought to walk into Obama's room and each smack him across the face. Maybe that'll bring him around, and he'll see us and not dead people.

God that is a great thought! lol! I am depressed today, I do respect her respect her decision. But I can't support bo.

[LarryMac]

Just remember suspension is not concession. If Obama self-destructs as many of us feel he will, she can still take the nomination in Denver. This may very well be a tactic to draw out the negative attacks against Obama the right-wing has been holding in reserve.

[Angelica91]

She always know what she's doing. She makes every decision by her own conviction. I remembered when she had problem with Bill. I had no ideal why her make her decision that way. But it was her decision and I respected that.
And look, it WAS the right decision. They worked it out. They're very much in love with each other.

I have no doubt that Hillary knows what she's doing. I trust her completely. It's for the best of the country in the long run, although we couldn't fathom the outcome yet.
O, yes, you are right, with that exemple you make me smiling!:D
thank you so much!
it's true, now they're very much in love!:D

[endodoc79]

Hillary mentioned it in her speech on Tuesday night in New York and got very big cheers from the crowd. It is BO's lack of it toward the working class America that makes me so sure I could not physically pull the lever for him despite what Hillary or anyone could say. Waiting on the line in NY a well-connected Democrat from upstate NY said- my mom and my sister are party enthusiasts and on the outside say I'll support the nominee, but he know's when they get in the booth they'll pull the lever for McCain. Everybody will come to their own decision in November. Right now we should have goals- mine is to continue to show the Democratic party who the best candidate for the people really is and that's Hillary Clinton. They are not listening now, but we have until August 25 in Denver for them to see the error of their ways

[Tea toaD]

How funny. &*^%$*@^%@!**^ Take that:D


I want the 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, heard & not invisible."

Okay, while we're all still invisible, we ought to walk into Obama's room and each smack him across the face. Maybe that'll bring him around, and he'll see us and not dead people

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I got the email. I asked her in writing not to pass my infomation on to the Obama campaign as I respect her decison I cannot in good conscience honor her request to support him as I would now be helping the Republicians as the Democrats steal elections and I will never again support another Democrat except for you.

[hejiranyc]

People, please think about this... why is she merely suspending her campaign as opposed to conceding outright? Simple. She's still in it to win it. The fact of the matter is that she is not going to gain any more favor, both within the party as well as the electorate, by digging in her heels and continuing to tout that she is the superior candidate to run against John McCain. She is going to play nice with the party, unite the electorate, stump for Obama and garner all kinds of good notices and goodwill from the press. Basically she is going to give off the appearance that she is finally behaving like a good little girl.

The fact of the matter is that Obama is highly unlikely to survive this long, hot summer unscathed. In addition to all of those sensational scandals waiting in the wings, the GOP is going to make minced meat out of him. They are going to take him to task for his inability to take a firm stand on an issue, his inability to think or speak spontaneously, and the 800lb gorilla- inexperience on everything. And all of those pie-in-the-sky predictions of putting all of those red states into play- not gonna happen. He is going to limp into the convention on life support while Hillary rides in atop a wave of goodwill and appreciation for her hard work to unify the party. It is conceivable that many supers will finally see the light at that point.

[RAFREE]

I love what she said because it shows she was listening and reading what we've said about B.O. in our emails to her. When she says she told us all along she would support him, she's just reminding us that she knows we have said we aren't going to vote for him. SHE however, has said "all along" and true to her word she will.

But, she did keep her options open here.

The only thing about this I find sad and irritating is the way the party leaders have pushed her, have ignored how historic and noble HER RUN IS. Not just his AND the way Obama has ignored that with so few nods to her.

BUT, I honestly believe she will take this to Denver. You just never, ever do know in a race this close...I don't trust the party leaders at all anymore so who knows what will come next for her....they told her it would be best for her to "keep her future options open" as IF she doesn't have options without bowing to B.O.

At this point she is the most powerful woman in Washington with 18 MILLION supporters who love her and support her. I think the DNC is going to slowly wake up to the fact they can't do a damned thing in the G.E. without us.

Watch out for the "we love you all" thought speak to be taken up a notch from the Obamatrons in the next few weeks. They are going to start sounding like Hallmark cards soon.

[Bloomer]

and ptience is a virtue.

I do not believe she has given up and I will not give up either.

Our goal now is to make sure the DNC knows that we horses will not be lead to drink the kool-aid. That Obama is.... as our wonderful Bacio puts it "Unelectable".
A message needs to be sent loud and clear that we will not stand for what the DNC has done and we will not be forced to come home against our concious and better judgement.
I liked the idea of sending the voters registration card torn into little pieces to the DNC.....where's the scizzors.

Hey Bacio! Time to Bump that video up don't you think? We could all use a little boost right now and that would do it for me anyway. ;)

If and when Hillary comes back out to fight I will once again be right there to fight, right beside her. Until then the DNC gets not one dime and I turn my back on them.:mad:

[Frances]

Victory requires discipline, and who best has taught us this? We continue to trust her moves, things are going to be happening fast, and she has plenty enough time to explain things to us. But right now the message is "Time to Shape Up the Party". The party is saying you are either with us or against us, and they are publicly watching us, and will be testing our voting strength on McCain.

We know they are not giving us our way, and that they stopped her from winning the nomination. The deals they have made could very well blow up. Don't you think the credential committee will be critical? They will either go down the same disastrous road, or they can strike back to prevent another losing fiasco.

If anyone knows how much room we have to maneuver, it would the Clintons. I can't gauge that measure, and not sure how this changes between now and August, but Obama will be exposed!

Keep those checks coming into Hillary Clinton, and keep on keeping on!

[hills]

When is the credential committee?

[Eridon]

No way, jeffers- not yet.

In no way will we unite behind obama- not a chance in HELL. Especially during this transparent drive by the DNC to get us to "fall in line". uh, huh.. no way.

Obama did not receive the earned delegates needed to secure the nomination- he was carried across the finish line by "promises" of votes from the supers. They have not voted yet.

NOW is the time to push back- not surrender!

Are you sure you're with Hillary?:confused:

I agree. We can show the dorks who are pressuring her that it is WE THE PEOPLE they betrayed, and WE THE PEOPLE who elect a President. They have nothing over us except make us all lose to McCain, either by our protest vote or by abstaining. Seems to me, they have to do what we say, or else. Not the other way around. As in "POWER TO THE PEOPLE".

WE MUST WRITE CALL EMAIL THE DNC AND TELL THEM WE ARE NOT PUPPETS AND WE ARE NOT CO-OPERATING. That's all we have to say.

Then the choice is theirs: get off it, or lose to McCain.

[shadow]

Please relax!!!! This is far from over!
This is a war and Hillary is a great tactician. Wars are not linear. You often need to retreat to a sheltered area and regroup. I do not think Hillary is forced to retreat. She may be pressured. She cannot be forced. Nobody can force her, she is powerful. This is her choice: to retreat and regroup. Look, she cannot send an E-mail to her supporters: I am faking that I will support Obama, and I will wait for him to make a mistake....
Our job remains the same, to show that BO does not have a chance in the GE.
Personally, I will never vote for BO. For a very basic reason, beyond politics: survival and physical security. BO can be blackmailed big time. I do not want to put the security of my country in his hands.

Yes!

[Eridon]

We need a list of who to write to, call, and/or email. I'm going to start with my own county, and my own state for the party, and then ditto same with the supers of my own state.

After that, I can do the DNC national -- does anyone have a list for those?

[GOHillary08]

She doesn't mention suspending or conceding...

She mentions "supporting" Obama...this does not equal "endorsing"...

Make of it what you will ;)

(bolded part done by me)

Still, I feel a bit disenfranchised. Truly. I just checked my email a little while ago, but my husband told me that Hillary was on TV (I don't watch) last night and pretty much said what her email said. I know that she's doing what she feels she has to do, but I sure hope she holds on to her delegates for Denver.

[mcgowan.swan]

when you signed up at hillaryclinton.com there was a little box on the bottom to check if you wanted updates and email from the campaign. if you left it blank you were not added to the list. it wasnt about donations. and i do not know what hillary has planned. i hope she goes to the convention and the sd's wake up and vote her in. if not, then i hope someone somewhere has enough dirt on obama to get him out before the convention. i hope she suspends and does not concede. i am still leaving the party because hope is not enough for me. otherwise i would be supporting obama.

TO HILLARY: i will vote for mccain in november if obama is the only other choice. sorry hillary, but he is a dangerous man and i cannot follow your wishes. as for the party, it would be impolite for me to spell out my feelings here. you may wish to save them, but the ship has already sunk. my advice is, SAVE YOURSELF, before the party and obama paint you with the same brush. my love always to you and bill and chelsea. i will be watching and i will still be pushing the sd's if you decide to suspend, not concede. my support for you is a heartbeat away if you ask for it, but never obama. may God always bless you and yours.

TO MURRAY: thank you for all you have done. i will be returning to work next week, and i will remain a forum member. i will donate to you asap. thank you again. i will look to you and this place for any further news from hillary. it is a pleasure to know you. may god bless you and yours as well. love, joan

[Brooke]

It depends on what the meaning of "if" is...:D

OH GOD!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Hilarious!!! :D Thanks for the laugh, Julianne.

Look, I cannot get Bill's face on Tuesday out of my head, that look, that smile. He KNOWS something. I have learned over the past 16 years of watching them, they're always one step ahead of everybody else. They're too smart. And I've watched them every day for the past 16 years long enough to know this. You should never underestimate the Clintons. Have faith and trust them.

And I gotta tell you, I've prayed so much during this campaign. And I know in my heart God won't let me go through 1998 again. I just know it. And all of this has to be for a reason.

But this is what she needs to do right now, but it's a tactical move. I'm sure of it. We have to wait and see what happens. And I won't listen to my friends who tell me "chil out, it's over" It's not over. It's never over. The Clintons never go away.

Everybody is comparing this to Kennedy in 1980. I don't think they had Super Delegates back then did they?

I won't be rushing to join the McCain camp right away, but I might look into volunteering if he has an office here. Just to be on the safe side.

[GOHillary08]

"I want the 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, heard & not invisible."

Okay, while we're all still invisible, we ought to walk into Obama's room and each smack him across the face. Maybe that'll bring him around, and he'll see us and not dead people.

EXACTLY ! Talk about feeling better...just the thought makes me smile. Thanks!

[Angelica91]

Look, I cannot get Bill's face on Tuesday out of my head, that look, that smile. He KNOWS something. I have learned over the past 16 years of watching them, they're always one step ahead of everybody else. They're too smart. And I've watched them every day for the past 16 years long enough to know this. You should never underestimate the Clintons. Have faith and trust them.

Bill's face is becoming my TORMENT....:D
I am becoming crazy thinking to that face!:D
ClintonFan, because of you, I can't forget Bill's face; that face is my last hope!:D

[mjoynaples]

The NY democratic council will endorse Obama Friday at 1 PM, and many of Hillary's other SD supporters will do so this week too. It's so sad. :(

WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAY WAIT... what are people writing these SD's? and what can we say so regular folks get this and WAIT and support her...

what about my idea about buying her books that will at least help her personal financials right?

[AdrienneJ]

Whew. Thanks to everyone for being here this morning. I didn't much enjoy getting that e-mail. I came over to this site immediately to see what you guys thought. Thanks for the info on suspending still being an option.
It just didn't feel at all right that she would be throwing in the hat. Not when she's got so many compelling reasons to go to Denver. So thanks for being here and telling me that options are still open, and many of you sense she is still moving forward.

[blueskygal]

"I want the 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, heard & not invisible."

Okay, while we're all still invisible, we ought to walk into Obama's room and each smack him across the face. Maybe that'll bring him around, and he'll see us and not dead people.

Make that a b*tch slap, because that is exactly what he is!

[mjoynaples]

smsemedic ..." we need to re-channel our depression into a movement!!! we need to send a message to the dnc nut-jobs....
we need a seriously catchy name.....
not just mccainocrats....
i will brainstorm today. look at what we have accomplished on this site......we are a huge united front.......
now let's rock and turn this party around!!!"

YES, let's put this energy and I feel it too sad, depressed, soooo tired, very angry, scared, mostly angry, outraged, engaged, empowered, wanting to do more we need to be organzied... we work well together and need to savor this energy and move it forward for HILLARY and figure out a way she gets the money... I am going to buy her books for gifts and myself!

Feeling VERY STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS INFORMATION SHE IS GOING TO DENVER AND THERE IS STILL A CHNACE OUT THERE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE WEB AND ARE CRYING TODAY WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT TO THEM AND CONTACT THEM TO KEEP HOLDING ON FOR HILLARY WE ARE SOOOOOOOO NOT DONE !!!! NOBAMA all the way to DENVER HILLARY IS THE ONLY ONE!

smsemdic really like your thoughts here and completely in this camp lets do something for HILLARY for Denver, nomination and election !!!MADAME PRESIDENT HERE SHE COMES!!!

[Bloomer]

It was that shit eating grin kind of smile that says to you.....I know something you don't know and you'd all better get ready because it's gonna blow. YEP! Somethings cooking in the Clinton house and it's gonna be a smokin before it's all over.
ClintonFan is right....they are too smart.......they have a stradegy and if they are involved in it you know it's going to be damn good.

The Clinton's are playing chess right now and they are three moves ahead already. YOU GO HILL!

[hills]

WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAY WAIT... what are people writing these SD's? and what can we say so regular folks get this and WAIT and support her...

what about my idea about buying her books that will at least help her personal financials right?


I think that money will go to Hillary personally, unless it is bought from Hillary store.

[mjoynaples]

It was that shit eating grin kind of smile that says to you.....I know something you don't know and you'd all better get ready because it's gonna blow. YEP! Somethings cooking in the Clinton house and it's gonna be a smokin before it's all over.
ClintonFan is right....they are too smart.......they have a stradegy and if they are involved in it you know it's going to be damn good.

The Clinton's are playing chess right now and they are three moves ahead already. YOU GO HILL!

I am with the other person too who wrote (she ... I think it was a she) would not watch Hillary on SAT I am seriously thinking I will have trouble too ... and now discover I have two other committments and graduation so may not be around anyway... PLEASE BE SURE TO HAVE A THREAD WITH A PLAY BY PLAY so we can come back and read and learn!

GO HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO DENVER... and in the meantime let's send HIllary some notes on her website be sure you still write and if you have not already tell others to do so!!!! :)

[SantaCruzen]

Her dedication to the party is admirable. I don't see how in the world I could ever cast a vote, send a check,put up a sign for BHO.

I hope she waits in the wings in case he has an accident or something. I see his former fund raiser was just convicted of some high crimes, too bad his trial wasn't a few months ago... .

I think I'D rather have a sister that worked as a prostitute than a brother that would support BHO.

No signs, not money, no honey for BO.

[skc1976]

With all due respect to Hillary, I have one thing to say:

PUMA!!!!

[Eridon]

I think that money will go to Hillary personally, unless it is bought from Hillary store.

I just sent 3 emails to the head of my local Dem. Party Committee; the exec. director of the Maine Dem. committee, and the Campaign Mgr. for the state Dem. party.

I stated why I am disgusted with the party, and that I cannot in good conscience vote for a candidate who was hand-picked by dictators. I told them that as an American, I would rather freeze to death with no heat than support a dictatorship.

I also wrote to the two Maine supers who stabbed her in the back, same thing.

As for "waiting," we have no choice. There's nothing else we can do. But might as well tell the party what I think, and what I will do. This is going to be a long four years.

[Bella]

Do what I did and hit the reply button, change the subject heading into something else so they know it's a human on the other end not just a returned email and tell Hillary you want her to contiue to fight for us. I also wrote I will never ever support/donate/vote for Barack Obama.

[lanesharon]

Bella, Can you explain your avatar to me????

[Marie]

I could've swore I read in the constitution that you have to support the other candidate of the party, but now I can't find that part.

I did find this: "No person, except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office, who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."

And Jeez, why does the media talk about Hillary non-stop? They're obsessed. Leave her alone for a while, talk about something else, they're acting like kindergartners.

[SantaCruzen]

I have been collecting name of NObama people PM me and I can add you to my list. We need to gather around the fire and chat.

[KYWildcatFan]

I, like many of you, received the same email from Hillary. There is a lot to interpreted from this letter. It's a bit hazy in it's message. That only leads me to believe that there is an undercurrent going on here. The main fact that she did not concede speaks volumes to me. I will forever remain faithful to Hillary. There is no way I would ever vote for BO. I don't care who tells me to do so. It will never happen.

I will be voting for McCain if Hillary is not an option. However, I am going to wait until Saturday, after Hillary speech, to decide whether or not to campaign for McCain. If she says she has conceded then I will be off to McCain country buying bumper stickers, t-shirts, signs, and buttons and making contributions to his campaign. But I will also tell you I will be wearing my Hillary gear while wearing the McCain gear. McCain t-shirt with Hillary buttons, Hillary t-shirt with McCain buttons. I want everyone who sees me to know that my love and support for Hillary has not changed but seeing as what has happened I will vote for McCain to keep Bo out of office. If someone screams racist I will scream back polices and foreign policy.

I will never leave this forum as long as Murray keeps it going. Murray has been a life saver to me and many of us here. My Love to Murray!

[floorrunner]

Rush limbaugh was talking about this today and he said the key to the letter is what she did not say? Then he went on to slam Obama about Rezko.

[Angelica91]

Saturday is Saturday is the day of judgement, we will know with certainty what Hillary will do. Endorsment or support?
Keep her delegates or not?
While waiting for the arrival of that day, what do you think will happen?:)

[Soaring Eagle]

This came from the Clinton campaign. She is telling us what she is going to do.



Dear Doug,

I wanted you to be one of the first to know: on Saturday, I will hold an event in Washington D.C. to thank everyone who has supported my campaign. Over the course of the last 16 months, I have been privileged and touched to witness the incredible dedication and sacrifice of so many people working for our campaign. Every minute you put into helping us win, every dollar you gave to keep up the fight meant more to me than I can ever possibly tell you.

On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

When I decided to run for president, I knew exactly why I was getting into this race: to work hard every day for the millions of Americans who need a voice in the White House.

I made you -- and everyone who supported me -- a promise: to stand up for our shared values and to never back down. I'm going to keep that promise today, tomorrow, and for the rest of my life.

I will be speaking on Saturday about how together we can rally the party behind Senator Obama. The stakes are too high and the task before us too important to do otherwise.

I know as I continue my lifelong work for a stronger America and a better world, I will turn to you for the support, the strength, and the commitment that you have shown me in the past 16 months. And I will always keep faith with the issues and causes that are important to you.

In the past few days, you have shown that support once again with hundreds of thousands of messages to the campaign, and again, I am touched by your thoughtfulness and kindness.

I can never possibly express my gratitude, so let me say simply, thank you.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

[Diamond Tiger]

Lou Dobbs just said on his radio show that HRC is "suspending" her campaign. Now here is someone I actually believe - because he doesn't have anything invested one way or the other - being an independent.

I got the feeling from the letter that she is suspending and waiting and regrouping.

I will be standing right with her when she gets the Nomination!!!

[Musicdude]

I'm not waiting. I'm throwing my hat in the ring. I'm meeting with Rev. Wright, Ayers and Rezko to get the proper annointing in corruption, racism and radicalism, so I can be a kwalified kandidate.

[EH]

I'm not waiting. I'm throwing my hat in the ring. I'm meeting with Rev. Wright, Ayers and Rezko to get the proper annointing in corruption, racism and radicalism, so I can be a kwalified kandidate.

Of course you're gonna talk foreign policy with Brzezinski and play golf with Olbermann as well, aren't you? Cause that will get you on Oprah!;)

[hillary1]

Saturday is Saturday is the day of judgement, we will know with certainty what Hillary will do. Endorsment or support?
Keep her delegates or not?
While waiting for the arrival of that day, what do you think will happen?:)

last i heard she is keeping her delegates, that is her ace for the convention, she does not get what she wants, she'll play the ace card, and i hope it sends denver a mile high above what it is

[philmwri]

Hillary will suspend her campaign which is smart.Then Obama will start getting attacked by the republicans and after he can't handle it anymore he will drop out and Hillary will step in!

[Santiago]

It's a plan!

[philmwri]

The Republicans will unleash their fury the second Hillary ''Concedes''.Maybe when she suspends her campaign the tape will finally come out.

[yaelbelle]

I think Hillary is a brillian tactician.

She let it be known that she would fight for every American's vote. Then let it be known that the DNC took unnecessary action to not just squeeze her out, but be punitive.

I think she let it be known that she would do what was best for the party. (Didn't agree to VP but didn't burn the bridge.) Then let it be known that she was unwelcome.

She keeps that she got the popular vote a common theme.

[Angelica91]

DO you remember 1998????
Impeachment??? Everybody said Bill would have lost, but it didn't happen!
DON'T UNDERSTIMATE THE CLINTONS!

[FLHillRodSupporter]

To me, it sounds like she's going to do the old grade-school promise trick... you say something to someone's face while the whole time, you have your fingers crossed behind your back.

And just so you all know, the letter I got from her yesterday in regards to the stuff I gave to her in Boca Raton said, "....WHEN I am President, I will work hard to make sure that ideas like yours are able to become a reality."

That, to me, does NOT sound like someone ready to toss in the towel. And the letter is dated "May 29, 2008."

I think that she knows exactly what she's doing, and she's playing her hand VERY smart.

[philmwri]

Rise Hillary Rise!Hillary Clinton is the best candidtate.

[diane]

Received this email today... (like the one this morning wasn't bad enough!)

"STATEMENT FROM THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN

Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, DC to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend. "


Hillary is trying to gently bring us around to supporting BO. She knows we've seen the disgusting way the DNC, Media and BO and his supporters have treated her and us... but she did state many times that she would support him if he got the Dem Nom, and so she is. The thing that pisses me off is that Hillary HAS to play nice and HAS to say these things instead of being able to say the truth which is BO can't win, he's unworty to be President and once again an unqualified inexperienced man has been given the job over a qualifed competent intelligent woman! (God I hate them!)

However, I know we're hoping Hillary will retain her delegates (we'll see come Sat), which will put her in the position of standby in case the GOP decides to trash BO now and something leaks. Unlikely though...this was the GOP plan from the beginning--to get BO nominated so they can destroy him. No way are they going to let anything in their heavily funded corporatate owned Media leak out to ruin thier plan and have Hillary run against McCain.

We can still hope though.... and come the GE don't vote for BO and let the DNC know it!

[EH]

WTF????:mad:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/06/clinton-to-drop-out-of-democratic-race-saturday-at-noon/

[Leekosagrios]

Go to hillaryclinton.com for the real news. She's suspending her campaign, which Fox calls "dropping out". She's stepping aside for the moment, but she's not quitting the convention in August.

[BooskerD]

The media is full of it. I only listen to Hillary or McAuliffe.

[EH]

In that same article they're also saying that Charles Schumer said on GMA that she'd accept VP! I WON'T believe that!

[Angelica91]

I can't believe in that!:(
I believe in her but...uff tell me it's not true!:(

[Bacio83]

I have to tell my brother daily not to listen to what he hears on TV etc because they're full of it. Ya'll know this too. Come on they said she was going to drop on Tuesday remember? BS... they're setting her up don't fall for the MSM spin and crap fest ya'll. Go to Hillaryclinton.com and get the 411 not this drivel.

[ScottVA]

This is why party politics is total B/S! You have to "support" a failed/doomed candidate otherwise you are labelled a traitor and demonized accordingly. She has no choice at this point other than to "support" him - if she wishes to retain credibility in the Democratic Party! This is what party politics is all about. Yes, it's B/S!

But this doesn't change anything in terms of reality. HC can still go the convention and she can still win the nomination. Approaching it this way, however, she is doing her part for "unity" whilst protecting the possibility of still clinching the nomination.

This is politics. It's all a game!

Thankfully this entire campaign has reminded me why I have ZERO interest in being affiliated with any political party. Independence is the ONLY way to go for me, that way one can retain independent thought and not feel compelled to support a failed candidate for the sake of "unity"! :rolleyes:

Onwards to Denver!

LOL Unfortunately....the DNC made them both sign mutual agreements to support the other at the end of the race... she's just doing what she promised..... AS LONG AS SHE KEEPS HER DELEGATES.......It's ALL GOOD!

[deniseds]

I think that is exactly what she is doing. Supporting BO and the DNC as promised. Hopefully keeping all her delegates until role call in Denver in August. We will see.

[Skeets]

I wish Hillary all the best and look forward to voting for her in 2012.
Will not vote for a person with the past that BHO has.
My vote goes to McCann and hope he win's. I will give him my support.
Skeets

[RE:]

I wish Hillary all the best and look forward to voting for her in 2012.
Will not vote for a person with the past that BHO has.
My vote goes to McCann and hope he win's. I will give him my support.
Skeets

Thanks..Sk****. Hillary still has until the convention...Don't give up until the ROLL CALL!!!:)

[DarrellP]

:mad:I saw a news flash on my TV stating that Hillary was mainly put on the nomination board to help ease angry protesters, So this is not geniune, it's just to trick us so-called angry protesters from protesting the DNC Convention. Well, this trick is not going to work either, strong Hillary supporters will protest and support Hillary for President throughout this Convention until she's made the official Presidential Nominee over Obama.

I do not know were the gender-biased media, the DNC, and the Obama Campaign get off thinking we are so stupid and simple- minded to fall for their acts of trickery in any form, We are going to protest by the thousands to show them that our voices will be heard both male and female, and not watered down by slick and slizzy campaign tactics in ordr to shut us up and fall in line with their program.

I hope they soon realize that we are not going away until things are made right with us and Hillary, like I said in earlier post, if no Hillary nomination for President, then no party unity, but instead McCain or Nader will get our votes by the thousands, that's it, that's final, case closed.

We Pumas and other strong Hillary Supporters "Won't Back Down" under any circumstances until Hillary comes out of this Convention the Nominee, and not the VP Nominee as a slick and slizzy compromise to try and appease us, it won't work, we will not be satisfied with her being VP, Hillary is to experienced over Obama to stoop down to this lower position.

Hillary For President08!!

[hillarypower08]

Isn't this article from June 2008?

WTF????:mad:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/06/clinton-to-drop-out-of-democratic-race-saturday-at-noon/

[hillarypower08]

I thought I was in "New Threads." Doihhh!!!

Isn't this article from June 2008?