(June 5, 2008): "Clinton, Obama meet privately in Washington" (Associated Press) - breaking news...

[supra5677]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...

[yaelbelle]

I just went to her site to give her all my support in not releasing one!

[blueskygal]

who do they think they are f*cking with?

what was the other song our beloved Madam President played on Tuesday night:


YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

[hills]

We should call her to give her more support. I intend to send her letters everyday and also call.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

she shouldn't give them anything, she has nothing to lose if she takes this to denver, if it doesn't work out she should just leave the dem party after the way they treated her.

[Ebinger]

Well, I hope she holds on to ALL her delegates with her life.

This remind me of when I was a kid and we'd order the girl out of the treehouse because she had "cooties".:rolleyes:

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I knew they were going to do this see this is what happens? I knew they were going to pull this shit. We need to Loudly protest any more stealing of delagates from her. I think we really hit them hard.

[Morgan]

she shouldn't give them anything, she has nothing to lose if she takes this to denver, if it doesn't work out she should just leave the dem party after the way they treated her.

How is the vote conducted, out in the open or private?

[B positive]

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama.... ...

Where did you hear this? Link?

[FLHillRodSupporter]

Morgan, I believe that the SD's vote via secret ballot.

They need to stop messing around with her. This is total BS.

[swannyj]

Supra, do you have the source for this. Do you think it would be beneficial to Hillary if we made this widely known on the net as a way of hopefully getting them to back off?

[mjoynaples]

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...

they are reading our blogs and learning we are not going down without a fight... what is her number I am going to call too... NOOOOOOOOOOO I am screaming like a banche inthe house here... good thing hubby is mowing outside he would b worried!

WHAT CAN WE DO HOW DO WE HELP HER???

[CGP]

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...

S - it's not fair to say this kind of stuff without a source....

Hysteria abounds everywhere. Adding to this doesn't help.

What makes you think this? Was it discussed on the delightfull CNN or MSNBC? Or did you read it online? Or you just think this is what they will try and do?

[NYVIN4HILL08]

We should call her to give her more support. I intend to send her letters everyday and also call.

yeah, i just emailed her again asking her not to give obbammer my vote by giving him her delegates.

[swannyj]

so basicly they are telling her to concede rather than suspend. There was mention of this at the Daily Howler site.

[jenaset]

MSM reporting Clinton an Obama meeting in Washington tonight. They are talking unity... Where is Puma... We have to let them know... NOT NOW! NOT EVER! NEVER OBAMA!!!

[hillary4change]

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...


I know what they are trying to do.

They want her to release her Delegates, so when he implodes, they can coronate that loser Gore, or Kerry, Edwards or Richardson.
A Prez., V.P. combo from the long loser list, of the DNC's has beens and never were!

[Patricia GA]

Need a source for this story please to verify this is happening.

[gnnrg3]

Secret meeting now with B.O. and Hill at her house in Wash.on MSNBC I know

[CGP]

Again, source?

[LMLavender]

MSNBC is reporting that Obama is meeting with Hillary at her house in DC at this moment 6:17 PM pacific time.

[Patricia GA]

Source Please...

[Patricia GA]

Source Quote Please And Who Said It

[Johnf]

what's up with this...

[RAFREE]

*shudder* the idea of that man in Hillary's house make me feel ill. He shouldn't even be allowed to cross the threshold of her home.

Something about this upsets me. I just have too much respect for her to think about him showing up there after all he's done.

I won't believe this till Hillary says it happened. No I won't.

[mjoynaples]

thanks for looking into sources here.... we need that! I would be getting that house blessed again after that!

[LMLavender]

Obama loaded his press core on the plane and the plane was taking off and the MSNBC reporters found that Obama was not on the plane.

They were able to contact MSNBC and inform them and have broken the story......lol......they gave BO and HRC Kudos for pulling off the secret meeting.

[hillary4change]

My husband is watching FOX, I asked him if it was being reported there. He said no, so obummer must have notified his "private media consultants" (MSNBC) and thats why they are reporting it!! :eek::eek:

I know what the DNC is trying to do, they want her to release her Delegates, so that when he implodes they can "elevate" any combo of the long list of "losers, has beens and never were" of the DNC to the race (White House!)

[LMLavender]

This is on MSNBC .....Vedrdect with Dan Abrams

[CGP]

MSNBC is reporting that Obama is meeting with Hillary at her house in DC at this moment 6:17 PM pacific time.

I'd call security - "there is a conman on my premises, please remove him immediately"! ;)

[Optixmom]

Calm down people. He is just asking her for a cup of sugar (and some spice and everything nice, because he only has snips and snails and puppydog tails to work with).

[Peace]

Why do I keep feeling like we are reliving Bush's war and the non-existent WMD being shoved down our throats by the administration and MSM propaganda machine? Only this time it is Obama and his non-existent nomination (and non-existent credentials) being shoved down our throats by the DNC and of course the always abiding MSM propaganda machine.

[mjno7777]

PRAY she does not release her delegates, this is way toooooooooooooo soon. He is a real manipulative SOB.

[agalfromcal4hill]

not feeling good about this....hopefully she'll have some support around

[LMLavender]

LOL Hey Murray......I think my thread got merged with another one

[Lodi]

Was it ScottVA who said he has a contact from the campaign?? Maybe his friend can relate the consensus of the HRC Forum: KEEP YOUR DELEGATES.

AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY OWE IT TO HILLARY AND TO THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY TO ENABLE US TO HEAR THE DELEGATES CALL OUT THEIR SUPPORT FOR HILLARY!! THIS IS AN EVEN MORE HISTORIC MOMENT THAN NOMINATING JUST ANOTHER MALE, WHO'S HALF WHITE, ANYWAY!

Eff the DNC! These people just don't realize that this is not your old, crazy uncle's campaign anymore. We're calling the shots now, and we don't need no stinkin' DNC! We should roll over, stop pursuing justice just because a bunch of men and a Pelosi whatever it is said so?

WTF! We are not lemmings on Kool-Aid or parrots with a talking-points list.

And where the hell is the Credentials Committee? They should be speaking out against the dirty doings of the RBC WITHOUT ANY PROMPTING!

NEVER SURRENDER!

[Ebinger]

Source Quote Please And Who Said It

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24582429

then click at the top:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/

I hope she tells him to go

[RE:]

Calm down people. He is just asking her for a cup of sugar (and some spice and everything nice, because he only has snips and snails and puppydog tails to work with).

We love you, Optixmom??? Can YOU be Hillary's VP???:D

[mjoynaples]

PRAY she does not release her delegates, this is way toooooooooooooo soon. He is a real manipulative SOB.

writing through tears... please make this not be so... I was just making plans to get to DENVER in August ...

[LucyTN]

We don't know that there's any truth to this but if there was, I would be disappointed if Hillary gave away what I consider to be OUR votes. They have already taken away more than they should have and should be ashamed to ask for more. Those delegates are hers and she may need them later.

[agalfromcal4hill]

he might be there to pressure her about releasing those delegates, but she'll hold on tight. Have no fear he won't get them tonight or ever. They are hers she earned them.
I'd have Bill take the trash out.

[RE:]

We don't know that there's any truth to this but if there was, I would be disappointed if Hillary gave away what I consider to be OUR votes. They have already taken away more than they should have and should be ashamed to ask for more. Those delegates are hers and she may need them later.

I'm with you on this....SHE HAS TO GO TO DENVER!!!!!

[K.Wayne]

Guys, calm down.

No sense in getting all emotional based on speculations.
Wait for the truth, don't assume anything.

[hillaryhoosier]

They want her to release all her delegates so that she has NO chance of ever claiming the nomination.

They know as long as she holds on to her delegates there is a chance that she could overturn his nomination.

I hope she doesn't give in, but I think they are going to DEMAND it.

Of course that will only make John McCain's win mean that much more.

[Lodi]

Fox is showing clips of RNC commercials using Hillary and Edwards and other Dems criticizing Obama. God, they're good...:D

[mjoynaples]

I'm with you on this....SHE HAS TO GO TO DENVER!!!!!

how would she ask us to fill this out on her web page and then not hear us... maybe she did not get enough money?

[Optixmom]

We love you, Optixmom??? Can YOU be Hillary's VP???:D

I just have tremendous faith that she will take care of him in the way that he deserves. She can handle him and his slug-like DNC comrades.

She has no obligation to him other than showing support. She said she wasn't pursuing VP after all of the press said she was.

Obama has no control over her Senate race and I bet that she is not remotely interested in any of his cabinet handouts. She holds all of the cards and she know it.

Turn off MSNBC! Read a good book, go for a walk. Hillary is much smarter than Obama. I am not worried. I have faith in her.

[LucyTN]

he might be there to pressure her about releasing those delegates, but she'll hold on tight. Have no fear he won't get them tonight or ever. They are hers she earned them.
I'd have Bill take the trash out.Don't hold me to this but I think I heard on the news today that Hillary is in DC and Bill stayed in New York. I can't see her meeting with Obama (or Oblahblah as someome here says) in private though. She would have to have some advisors present, don't you think?

[Bad Kitty]

Fox is showing clips of RNC commercials using Hillary and Edwards and other Dems criticizing Obama. God, they're good...:D

Yeah. I never thought I'd be cheering on their cold calculating ways but that was good and I have a feeling it's just the beginning.

[ssmith]

IF they push her OUT.. I will immediately give $$ to Mccain.. and I've been saving lots of $$ b/c I have cancelled all my subcriptions, and donations to lots of dem. party stuff.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

why does the name of this thread keep changing

[CGP]

why does the name of this thread keep changing

Because various threads have been merged...and the original title wasn't accurate...

[mooaks]

He'll ring her doorbell and she will answer: "Who's there"?? His response will be
"Obama Lama Ding Dong" "It's me baby, your big bouncin' bull frog from the river of romance" Les rap. :D:D:D:

[CGP]

Fox is showing clips of RNC commercials using Hillary and Edwards and other Dems criticizing Obama. God, they're good...:D

And just wait until they start using the Hillary voters in their ads too!

[jerseygirl7]

Again, source?

Lets all remember that Hillary is super smart. She isn't about to let them push her into something that doesn't benefit her. She has 18 million supporters and he knows it.

Let's have faith in her decision.

She will suspend and support! Remember too Bill is behind her and he won't let her get Bamboozled!!

[NYVIN4HILL08]

Secret meeting now with B.O. and Hill at her house in Wash.on MSNBC I know


yuk, the only reason i would invite him to my house is to take out the garbage, or iron my shirt

[Karee Wyoming]

I know what they are trying to do.

They want her to release her Delegates, so when he implodes, they can coronate that loser Gore, or Kerry, Edwards or Richardson.
A Prez., V.P. combo from the long loser list, of the DNC's has beens and never were!

Thast is why they all hate her - Because they are a bunch of Loser Has beens!!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN , SOME NIT WIT ON HANNITY SAYING IF HE PICKED HILLARY WOULD BE A DIASTER - ASK WHAT ABOUT ALL HER WOMEN SUPPORTERS, OH THEY WILL ALL FALL IN LINE RATHER THAN VOTE FOR McCAIN , IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME I HAVE HEARD THIS FALL IN LINE CRAP IN THE LAST TWO DAYS I WOULD BE A MIIIONARE!! IF THE MORON IS SO GREAT WHY ARE THEY ALL SO WORRIED AND RANTING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO!!! THE AA AND SNOT NOSES CAN ELECT HIM - I THOUGHT OLD CLYBURN AND SOME OTHER OLD AA CONGRESS-MAN WERE GOING TO CRY ON MSNBC THIS AFTERNOON - NEVER IN THIER LIFETIME DID THEY EVER THINK WE WOULD SEE A INTER-RACIAL RECOGNIZED BY A MAJOR PARTY - KEPT REFERING TO MARTIN LUTHER KING - FINEALLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PUTING ALL THE RACIAL INJUSTICES ASIDE - I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING IT HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT RACE AND SO MANY HAVE BOUGHT INTO THIS THERORY AND GUILT!!!!

[Lodi]

Yeah. I never thought I'd be cheering on their cold calculating ways but that was good and I have a feeling it's just the beginning.

Boy, I think you're right about that. It's just going to get nastier. No wonder the DNC wants Hill's delegates! What a movie this will be!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::D:p

[LucyTN]

He'll ring her doorbell and she will answer: "Who's there"?? His response will be
"Obama Lama Ding Dong" "It's me baby, your big bouncin' bull frog from the river of romance" Les rap. :D:D:D:And when the door opens, there stands Michelle.:D

[CGP]

We don't know that there's any truth to this but if there was, I would be disappointed if Hillary gave away what I consider to be OUR votes. They have already taken away more than they should have and should be ashamed to ask for more. Those delegates are hers and she may need them later.

Agreed.

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I wouldnt let that man anywhere alone with Hillary I hate him and I hate the thought of them being together. That would make me sick.

[hillary4change]

S - it's not fair to say this kind of stuff without a source....

Hysteria abounds everywhere. Adding to this doesn't help.

What makes you think this? Was it discussed on the delightfull CNN or MSNBC? Or did you read it online? Or you just think this is what they will try and do?


I just heard a minute ago on FOX that "She wouldn't release her Delegates" But that was all they have said about it.

[Bad Kitty]

He'll ring her doorbell and she will answer: "Who's there"?? His response will be
"Obama Lama Ding Dong" "It's me baby, your big bouncin' bull frog from the river of romance" Les rap. :D:D:D:

I don't know whether to laugh or be afraid. :confused:

[mukunda22]

turn off MSNBC!!!!

They are a bunch of liars, at best.

[LucyTN]

Thast is why they all hate her - Because they are a bunch of Loser Has beens!!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN , SOME NIT WIT ON HANNITY SAYING IF HE PICKED HILLARY WOULD BE A DIASTER - ASK WHAT ABOUT ALL HER WOMEN SUPPORTERS, OH THEY WILL ALL FALL IN LINE RATHER THAN VOTE FOR McCAIN , IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME I HAVE HEARD THIS FALL IN LINE CRAP IN THE LAST TWO DAYS I WOULD BE A MIIIONARE!! IF THE MORON IS SO GREAT WHY ARE THEY ALL SO WORRIED AND RANTING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO!!! THE AA AND SNOT NOSES CAN ELECT HIM - I THOUGHT OLD CLYBURN AND SOME OTHER OLD AA CONGRESS-MAN WERE GOING TO CRY ON MSNBC THIS AFTERNOON - NEVER IN THIER LIFETIME DID THEY EVER THINK WE WOULD SEE A INTER-RACIAL RECOGNIZED BY A MAJOR PARTY - KEPT REFERING TO MARTIN LUTHER KING - FINEALLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PUTING ALL THE RACIAL INJUSTICES ASIDE - I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING IT HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT RACE AND SO MANY HAVE BOUGHT INTO THIS THERORY AND GUILT!!!!

That "fall in to line" comment is beginning to have the same effect on me as fingernails on a chalk board. Those folks really need to talk to this fellow I've been married to for going on fifty years. When he stopped laughing and got his breath he would be glad to tell them that "I" don't fall in line. I find that a very demeaning remark to make. Reminds me of the PUMA thing. FILMA!!

[Nancy Kallitechnis]

I read on another blog that the DNC say they chose Obama because he brings more money to the Democrat party and that allegedly he brings in new voters though there was no specification about what demographic the new voters are or anything. And I read that they are willing to lose the Executive office to get the money and "new voters." The person said this was facts but I don't know much more so I cannot provide a reference to verify this.

However, if that is true I don't think it is the correct course of action. Bush showed us how much influence a president can have and I think willingly giving up a Democratic presidency is too high a price to pay for some extra money and more voters that may not actually appear.

[Johnf]

I just heard a minute ago on FOX that "She wouldn't release her Delegates" But that was all they have said about it.

Great news, were they reporting what was currently going on....

Can you imagine what's going on at the Clinton's tonight...I bet Bill has a few words for Obama...and if she doesn't let the delegates go under Obamas threats and pressure, Barry's gonna walk away pi$$ed.

[RE:]

I just have tremendous faith that she will take care of him in the way that he deserves. She can handle him and his slug-like DNC comrades.

She has no obligation to him other than showing support. She said she wasn't pursuing VP after all of the press said she was.

Obama has no control over her Senate race and I bet that she is not remotely interested in any of his cabinet handouts. She holds all of the cards and she know it.

Turn off MSNBC! Read a good book, go for a walk. Hillary is much smarter than Obama. I am not worried. I have faith in her.

I see now why you went into the Otics Field....YOU SEE SO CLEARLY!!!

[Lodi]

Am I still in the Million Woman March thread? I'm having a senior moment. Anyway, a poster here alluded to the d. bag of the century, Charles Krautheimer (the scary ugly regular guest on Fox), who loathes Hillary.

I think we should make a big "Pin the Tail on the Donkey" game for the march. We can have pictures of Krautheimer, Dick Morris, Chris Matthews, Timmy Russert, Keith Ogreman, Nancy Pelosi, etc., pasted on donkey butts and pin them with "tails" that have appropriate comments on them.

Hmmm...i think i need a rest...

[smsemedic]

call me crazy guys....but none of this makes sense! why would a woman holding all the cards she has.....give?!!! she knows the power she has....she said "no" to the vp for a reason.....it just doesn't make sense that she would throw in the towel?? we are missing something. why would she ask us to go to her site and share our thoughts and ideas....WHY??? i am telling you...none of this makes sense! perhaps she is telling obama to be the vp....
does anyone else feel as confused??

[Johnf]

I read on another blog that the DNC say they chose Obama because he brings more money to the Democrat party and that allegedly he brings in new voters though there was no specification about what demographic the new voters are or anything. And I read that they are willing to lose the Executive office to get the money and "new voters." The person said this was facts but I don't know much more so I cannot provide a reference to verify this.

However, if that is true I don't think it is the correct course of action. Bush showed us how much influence a president can have and I think willingly giving up a Democratic presidency is too high a price to pay for some extra money and more voters that may not actually appear.


Where's his money coming from.....there's a lot of poor American's out there.....but wasn't there talk of a brother of some middle eastern radical leader who's giving Obama money?

[jerseygirl7]

how would she ask us to fill this out on her web page and then not hear us... maybe she did not get enough money?

I did see something on Yahoo while I waiting for the Forum to upload and it said something about Obama and Hillary's debt. I try not to open that BS on Yahoo but it did catch my eye.

Any way of getting internet without one of those nasty homepages?????

[Patricia GA]

Welcome to my parlor said the spider to the fly.

[hillary4change]

Great news, were they reporting what was currently going on....

Can you imagine what's going on at the Clinton's tonight...I bet Bill has a few words for Obama...and if she doesn't let the delegates go under Obamas threats and pressure, Barry's gonna walk away pi$.


No, just that statement all by its self.

[Eddie3dfx]

He's going to be walking out of there with a black eye and blue eye lol.
Go Hillary!

[MissDeeCee]

I really think that he was completely unprepared for the onslaught of negativity from the media once he became the "self proclaimed nominee"..... he and his SD's thought he would remain the media darling. They thought they just had to push Hillary out and BO would skate to the white house. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS HAPPENED!
If BO and Hillary are meeting, it probably has more to do w/ the Dems for McCaine. They want her help reign it in..... All this talk of Dems for McCaine is making them feel desperate enough to FORCE her to release her SD's now and render her powerless....
ALSO - talk of MO's tape is being openly referenced in the MSM today.... Wright is back in the news tonight...the Obats are scrambling...

Breathe..... Calm.... You have to Believe! ;)

[agalfromcal4hill]

Patricia GA Welcome to my parlor said the spider to the fly.

love it!!! yes welcome indeed

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Obama loaded his press core on the plane and the plane was taking off and the MSNBC reporters found that Obama was not on the plane.

They were able to contact MSNBC and inform them and have broken the story......lol......they gave BO and HRC Kudos for pulling off the secret meeting.

I am pretty sure I know where her house is located in D.C. ..you wanna go and crash the party? You think we can get past security?:D:D

[hillary4change]

Calm down people. He is just asking her for a cup of sugar (and some spice and everything nice, because he only has snips and snails and puppydog tails to work with).


Love ya Optix! I know they won't "make" her do anything. They can't!

We also need to keep in mind, the media has been wrong..EVERYTIME!!

They know nothing. If they don't have the scoop, they run to the kitchen and get their own!!!

[NYVIN4HILL08]

Where's his money coming from.....there's a lot of poor American's out there.....but wasn't there talk of a brother of some middle eastern radical leader who's giving Obama money?

remember osama bin laden said he would attack americas from inside its heart, who know's anything is possible.

[Peace]

I read on another blog that the DNC say they chose Obama because he brings more money to the Democrat party and that allegedly he brings in new voters though there was no specification about what demographic the new voters are or anything. And I read that they are willing to lose the Executive office to get the money and "new voters." The person said this was facts but I don't know much more so I cannot provide a reference to verify this.

However, if that is true I don't think it is the correct course of action. Bush showed us how much influence a president can have and I think willingly giving up a Democratic presidency is too high a price to pay for some extra money and more voters that may not actually appear.

Hasn't B.O. already used up the kiddies' student loan money? Or are new disbursements being sent out soon?

[RE:]

Welcome to my parlor said the spider to the fly.

Totally got a visual....GOTCHA!!!!

[Catherine]

Morgan: How is the vote conducted, out in the open or private?




Unfortunately, it's not by secret ballot; if it were, Hillary would win.

[hillary4change]

Am I still in the Million Woman March thread? I'm having a senior moment. Anyway, a poster here alluded to the d. bag of the century, Charles Krautheimer (the scary ugly regular guest on Fox), who loathes Hillary.

I think we should make a big "Pin the Tail on the Donkey" game for the march. We can have pictures of Krautheimer, Dick Morris, Chris Matthews, Timmy Russert, Keith Ogreman, Nancy Pelosi, etc., pasted on donkey butts and pin them with "tails" that have appropriate comments on them.

Hmmm...i think i need a rest...

Julianne,
You are cracking me up!! I love it!!

[DameLiz]

When Ted Kennedy took this to the convention, did they ask him to release his delegates to Jimmy Carter prior to the convention? Is it because she is a women and they always cave in, in their minds. She cannot release those delegates, he can implode any day!

[hillary4change]

Hannity just said that bo and Hillary, are meeting now in Wa. DC, at an undisclosed location!

[ShyFire]

My God- everyone needs to get ahold of themselves!

I noticed that there were no sources sighted even after repeated requests. This is how mass hysteria begins.. stop it!

Chill.. stop slurping up the MSM's saliva. EEEK.

[Catherine]

Hannity: Breaking News - they are meeting at Hillary's home at this moment.


At least she has the advantage.

[lanney]

Fox news Hill and BO is meeting in undisclosed location in DC.

[Mrsawd]

Hillary and BO meeting taking Place right now FOX just announced !

TIME TO PRAY HARD ANF HOPE SHE DOES THE RIGHT THING NOW !

[Brooke]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...

Wait a minute. Where in that article does it say Richardson and others are encouraging her to release her delegates. I don't see that anywhere.

[RE:]

When Ted Kennedy took this to the convention, did they ask him to release his delegates to Jimmy Carter prior to the convention? Is it because she is a women and they always cave in, in their minds. She cannot release those delegates, he can implode any day!

AND TED WAS DOWN 600 DELEGATES!!!!

[PAangelRN]

turn off MSNBC!!!!

They are a bunch of liars, at best.

I thought we boycotted MSNBC and CNN???

[RE:]

My God- everyone needs to get ahold of themselves!

I noticed that there were no sources sighted even after repeated requests. This is how mass hysteria begins.. stop it!

Chill.. stop slurping up the MSM's saliva. EEEK.

Murray added the source link at the top...:)

[mooaks]

And when the door opens, there stands Michelle.:D

Now that would be funny! :D:D Good one.

[MissDeeCee]

The meeting is happening right now. Supposedly, she had to publicly state she is not lobbying for VP and it was HIS choice. Which she did today. So now he is free to ask her w/out looking like the spineless, whining, clueless, party yes man that he is.
Also - they are trying to work through the fact she did not bow to the self proclaimed king at his fake coronation on Tuesday night.
They want to "heal the rift" and probably get her out of the new cycle - which she has dominated since Tuesday.
This is all according to Greta (and obviously my personal insight!)

I REFUSE to believe that she would give in to the bullying now, when he is obviously beginning to implode.

DENVER baby!

[Catherine]

On Fox - Major Garrett is relaying how upset the Obama people were that Hillary rained on his parade Tuesday evening. He listed all the things that they wanted to hear her say - like "momentous candidacy, moment, blah, blah blah. How egotistical can he be?



BTW: They are still talking about how they expect us to come around. don't they get that this is not the typical primary season? In the past, I usually had a preferred candidate. Sometimes HE prevailed, often he didn't. Did I harden my position and refuse to support the nominee? - No. In fact, sometimes I came to appreciate the eventual nominee better than I did my initial preference. This year is so different. There is no way I'm falling in line behind him!

There is speculation that BO might be at Saturday's event. I hope not. This is her and our moment.

BTW: Notice how Hillary is dominating the news cycle for the past two days?

[lanney]

Media is sitting outside Hill house since 5 am.
Media is saying BO is not inside her house and Hillary is inside her home.
No activity in Hill house.

[mooaks]

I don't know whether to laugh or be afraid. :confused:

In reality that would scare the hell out of me too.

[JOY TO THE WORLD]

If their is a secret meeting taking place, Hillary had better be wired...afterall, Barack lies and would tell his news networks CNN and MSNBC that Hillary gave him what he wanted and cried for the position of VP...what a bunch of crock! Let's just pray that Hillary is reminded that she has strong supporters who are not backing down from the thugs from Chicago and the DNC wimps :(

[gnnrg3]

Greta talking to a man outside H. house, has been there since 2P.M. today and said B.O. not there. Only one door to go in and out.

[nette60]

Only the voters can push her out of the senate....New Yorkers will keep her as long as she runs

[Patricia GA]

Okay so we have this big report that they are meeting and then we hear on Greta from the media camped out there at Hillary's house she is in her house and he is not there. So....stay tuned for more updates. LOL

[Wyoming Dem]

Am I still in the Million Woman March thread? I'm having a senior moment. Anyway, a poster here alluded to the d. bag of the century, Charles Krautheimer (the scary ugly regular guest on Fox), who loathes Hillary.

I think we should make a big "Pin the Tail on the Donkey" game for the march. We can have pictures of Krautheimer, Dick Morris, Chris Matthews, Timmy Russert, Keith Ogreman, Nancy Pelosi, etc., pasted on donkey butts and pin them with "tails" that have appropriate comments on them.

Hmmm...i think i need a rest...
Julianne, I have always kept a dartboard in my office. I think better when I am flipping darts and it relieves a lot of stress. I can't tell you how many pics of George Bush and/or Cheney that I have tacked on to my dartboard & have turned into "Swiss Chese"!
Well, I wore out one of MIchelle Obama in 1 day and I am working on my 5th Howard Dean, 8th Donna Brazil (I JUST ABSOLUTELY DESPISE HER!) at least 5 Obamas and 2 Nancy Pelosi's (For some reason, it's harder to find pics of her that are "face forward".)
Needless to say, I think the "Pin The Tail On THe Assh**le game would be a sure fire hit!

[RachachaSharon]

I read somewhere several months ago that Obama's campaign believed that Hillaryis44.com is the attack site for Hillary's campaign. I was just there and the editorial is all about Hillary's supporters not supporting BO. It also mentioned PUMA. I'm certainly not sure that it's a part of Hillary's campaign, but if so, they're definitely in sync with us and not giving up.

[deniseds]

After reading everyones respond to this tread. I am beginning to think we need to get in fighting mode again and start writing the MSM and start explaining to all of them we just are not going to get in line and vote for their thug BO. I know we all are waiting around and listening to bits and pieces of information but enough with the assumptions. I really hope that Hillary stands strong and holds on to her delegates but whatever she decides. I cannot vote for BO. I really don't think that there are many of the voters who were abused this season are going to get over it any time soon. What do you guys think?

[Charlie Brown]

I hope Bill is with her and she doesnt see that ****** alone...he might man handle her like he did Joe...Son of a bitch....I dont like this one bit...

[RE:]

Okay so we have this big report that they are meeting and then we hear on Greta from the media camped out there at Hillary's house she is in her house and he is not there. So....stay tuned for more updates. LOL

I KNOW... And then if you read the source at the top of the thread, it says...

A senior Obama campaign official confirmed to NBC News that Obama delayed his departure from Washington Thursday night to meet with Clinton at her home here.



I didn't know her home was in D.C....I thought she was at home in NY??? Incorrect reporting, or am I wrong??

[Charlie Brown]

I read somewhere several months ago that Obama's campaign believed that Hillaryis44.com is the attack site for Hillary's campaign. I was just there and the editorial is all about Hillary's supporters not supporting BO. It also mentioned PUMA. I'm certainly not sure that it's a part of Hillary's campaign, but if so, they're definitely in sync with us and not giving up.


Why dont we merg with that site?????

[Mrsawd]

I don't like it either I hope her security people are really close and I also Hope she tells him just like it is my people want me to go all the way and this is what I am gonna do !

[Brooke]

I KNOW... And then if you read the source at the top of the thread, it says...



I didn't know her home was in D.C....I thought she was at home in NY??? Incorrect reporting, or am I wrong??

She has a home in DC too for when she's working in the Senate. I've been by her house, it's nice.

[mjoynaples]

After reading everyones respond to this tread. I am beginning to think we need to get in fighting mode again and start writing the MSM and start explaining to all of them we just are not going to get in line and vote for their thug BO. I know we all are waiting around and listening to bits and pieces of information but enough with the assumptions. I really hope that Hillary stands strong and holds on to her delegates but whatever she decides. I cannot vote for BO. I really don't think that there are many of the voters who were abused this season are going to get over it any time soon. What do you guys think?


I think with deniseds we need to keep telling them for us it has not changed we are still not for them or their candidate he is horrible for our country... worse than gwb and that is more than bad! agreed we need to do it!! I am so sick of these media bullies... they need to be fired... WE NEED TO DONATE TO HILLARY tooo I just want to find out for sure that it is going to HER not to bo or some general election fund until she is the nominee!

did her mom just have her birthday on Wednesday? maybe she is still in ny with her mom... and the press is just lying to us as usual

[lanney]

It is happening in DIanne Finestien(sp) house.

[CGP]

I read somewhere several months ago that Obama's campaign believed that Hillaryis44.com is the attack site for Hillary's campaign. I was just there and the editorial is all about Hillary's supporters not supporting BO. It also mentioned PUMA. I'm certainly not sure that it's a part of Hillary's campaign, but if so, they're definitely in sync with us and not giving up.

It's completely independent, like this one. BO's campaign is always making up trash about Hillary supporters. The commonality is that most of us share the same position - BO is a DISASTER!!!! It's not hard to comprehend but something the DNC is in DENIAL about. I have met many people over the past months on the campaign trail, and I hear the same things over and over again! NO BO.

[MissDeeCee]

And as usual... last to the the dance.... on the "Elitist for Obama, 360 w/ #1 Obama fan"......
David Green is saying they need to emerge from the meeting together otherwise if he leaves alone it will look like it was a rough meeting aka she once again kicked his sorry arse...
Oh pleeeeeeese..... Candy Cr is saying he has been in control of the VP situation and will retain control..... that's why the meeting is at HER house...

He should get used to how this feels.... for when he comes to visit/grovel her at her next house..... The White House!

[UpstateNYRN]

My bet is Obama is there buying NOT selling. He must know that she is smart enough to "suspend" her run and hang on to her delegates, and sit back and wait for the "Whitey" thing to break. He must be freaking out knowing that she is in the drivers seat, while he is in the back seat with any of the seedy characters he runs with. Hang in there Hillary! Let the man shit and git! :D

[Soaring Eagle]

Hillary. Please don't align yourself with him!!!!!!!!!

[Patricia GA]

It is happening in DIanne Finestien(sp) house.


source please

[lanney]

source please

FOX- Greta.

[RE:]

She has a home in DC too for when she's working in the Senate. I've been by her house, it's nice.

Thanks CF1992...I was confused, because earlier they were saying that she was at home in NY...That makes sense now.

[NYVIN4HILL08]

yuk, the only reason i would invite him to my house is to take out the garbage, or iron my shirt


and iron my shirt isn't offensive? lol, i was just trying to make a point.....np

[Patricia GA]

FOX- Greta.

Thanks

[mjoynaples]

wish we could who knows how long it will be before she cks her messages on line... we need to get over to that site and provide some direction there they are all over the place too and the posting is as usual slllllllllllllllllllooooooow!

[freespirit]

who do they think they are f*cking with?

what was the other song our beloved Madam President played on Tuesday night:


YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

Well said! I sent a message via the official site, asking her not to succumb to their pressure, but it's so frustrating taking these kinds of insignificant, fragmented actions - wish there was more we could collectively do.

[Mrsawd]

Sorry have to post again for any on that missed it it is good one


Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm
YouTube - Obama

Good Video

[CriticalOne]

This is something else I'm secretly fearing: Obama offering Hillary boatloads of money for her delegates and mailing lists (i.e. money to pay off her debt). I hope like hell that she doesn't take the bait.

I've already asked to be removed from her mailing list in case she does sell her list. We all know how Obama "won" Edwards endorsement. He bought it, period.

[Mrsawd]

People on sites are raising hell about this one !


I will be damned If my child would need to to the Hospital then that is where they will go damn him !

YouTube - Obama Gaffe

[mjoynaples]

Well said! I sent a message via the official site, asking her not to succumb to their pressure, but it's so frustrating taking these kinds of insignificant, fragmented actions - wish there was more we could collectively do.

completely there with you on this one... collective action need to squash these maggots

[santafegal]

I am absolutely certain that Hillary can't be bought.

[mooaks]

First of all, we bloggers do not keep any ideas secret, we don't really have to.
Any ideas we toss around about different scenario's involving the many many problems with Obama we have dug up, he already knows about, obviously.


And he knows about her stalling and after parsing her words from the press release, he might be trying to get clarification from her personally without hearing it from the press.

He might even be having a conversation about the Rezko stuff, or a myriad of things. "Listen Hillary, I know that you know about the tape and stuff, please do not use that against me and bring my candidacy down" Who knows?? or it could be an olive branch over remarks made during the campaign and to prove I am sincere, would you be my Secretary of State. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Fun to guess though. I just hope Bill is there if in fact Obama is there.

Or, perhaps he is in Chicago? :confused:

[endodoc79]

BO visiting Hillary's Georgetown townhouse to get cookie recipe.

[Wyoming Dem]

I am worried that the DNC is/has resorted to "Gestapo" like tactics. It is a political fact of life that if you lose the party's supporter. Your career, no matter who you are is over. If Hillary openly defies them, she is "dead" to the Democratic party and instantly become "Persona Non Gratis".

The DNC also holds TREMENDOUS sway with the Superdelegates. The DNC decides WHO gets financial help from the party and who will be allowed to "run" on a Democratic ticket. The DNC has all the "Hole Cards" here and there is little, if anything to be done. This my fellow forum members is what our OWN DAMN PARTY is willing to do to us.

I am trying to remain hopeful that we can push McCain to victory of the SOB but if not, I am leaving this country. I am now "OFFICIALLY ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN" and it just about breaks my heart.

[Mrsawd]

They said the supporters present are her supporters then just maybe she is pushing him into making some decisions because Rezco thing and Wright is back Larry in the picture making noise hoping ! STAND YOUR GROUND HILLARY !

[Charlie Brown]

This is something else I'm secretly fearing: Obama offering Hillary boatloads of money for her delegates and mailing lists (i.e. money to pay off her debt). I hope like hell that she doesn't take the bait.

I've already asked to be removed from her mailing list in case she does sell her list. We all know how Obama "won" Edwards endorsement. He bought it, period.

Did you just email them and ask or did you just do it yourself????

[RE:]

Keep these videos of gaffes coming....He'll bury himself very soon...:rolleyes:

[hillaryhoosier]

Diane has been putting tremendous pressure on Hillary to concede.

[Amy Dugan]

on Greta somebody said Hillary will speak of supporting or endorsing Obama, but unlike Richardson and Edwards endorsements, Obama will NOT be on the stage with her Sat. They guy also mentioned suspending campaigning and something about hanging onto delegates DAMN kids made noise not sure exactly what was said if it was comment or press release from campaign anybody else watch greta/B]

[Bets1]

Keep these videos of gaffes coming....He'll bury himself very soon...:rolleyes:

I heard on one of the cable stations that Obama made many gaffes during his VA Town Hall today! He said he was tired! Can you imagine listening to the idiot tonight? Probably took him 15 minutes to get a sentence out of his mouth!

:eek:

[Gerry2008]

I am worried that the DNC is/has resorted to "Gestapo" like tactics. It is a political fact of life that if you lose the party's supporter. Your career, no matter who you are is over. If Hillary openly defies them, she is "dead" to the Democratic party and instantly become "Persona Non Gratis".

The DNC also holds TREMENDOUS sway with the Superdelegates. The DNC decides WHO gets financial help from the party and who will be allowed to "run" on a Democratic ticket. The DNC has all the "Hole Cards" here and there is little, if anything to be done. This my fellow forum members is what our OWN DAMN PARTY is willing to do to us.

I am trying to remain hopeful that we can push McCain to victory of the SOB but if not, I am leaving this country. I am now "OFFICIALLY ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN" and it just about breaks my heart.

I seriously just don't know how much worse the DNC could treat Hillary. They have never defended her against the sexism amid other acts of mistreatment. In my heart I know she must at least appear loyal to the Democratic party, something we are lucky enough NOT to have to do but how far can they push her? I think she would remain powerful, even as an Independent, as a senator from New York without the DNC behind her.

I can only hope that she refuses to release her delegates using the financial reason. Alone or not - I still hold out hope that by August the DNC comes to its senses and nominates Hillary.

[Mrsawd]

Obama back out would be the best news ever !

[CriticalOne]

Did you just email them and ask or did you just do it yourself????

Both. I unsubscribed, and then sent a letter saying in no uncertain terms that I didn't want to ever see anything from Barack Obama in my mailbox. The only time I want to see anything with Barack Obama's name on it in my mailbox is if it's to read "Barack Obama loses the nomination after clinching it" or "Barack Obama loses his bid for the presidency of the United States." Other than that, that name is as good as the most vile slur to me.

[texan4hillary]

wow-what si going on? are you guys glued to this? hillary and obama are meeting with diane feinstein tonight at diane's dc home. the press is camped out according to foxnews.com. there are negotiations between the 2. no one knows what is going on. do any of you?

[deniseds]

I understand the tremendous sway the DNC might with the Superdelegates but they still can change their minds in August. They know that in two months so many different things can happen. Do you believe they still would threaten her and not support her knowing that they will loose with BO. What the hell for? If McCain wins they all loose anyway. All of this doesn't make common sense.

[lanney]

I am worried that the DNC is/has resorted to "Gestapo" like tactics. It is a political fact of life that if you lose the party's supporter. Your career, no matter who you are is over. If Hillary openly defies them, she is "dead" to the Democratic party and instantly become "Persona Non Gratis".

The DNC also holds TREMENDOUS sway with the Superdelegates. The DNC decides WHO gets financial help from the party and who will be allowed to "run" on a Democratic ticket. The DNC has all the "Hole Cards" here and there is little, if anything to be done. This my fellow forum members is what our OWN DAMN PARTY is willing to do to us.

I am trying to remain hopeful that we can push McCain to victory of the SOB but if not, I am leaving this country. I am now "OFFICIALLY ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN" and it just about breaks my heart.

They can never take away former first lady title, she will always have security detail, status. She is also senator.
Dean, Kerry, Rchardson or other loser in DNC have no status. Hillary can show middle finger to all these losers.

[RAFREE]

My t.v. has been OFF for months unless it's Hillary speaking herself, I just reject out of hand a thing the MSM says. They have lied and lied all the way along.

[Eddie3dfx]

Wonder why the meeting is at her house?
HMM, maybe because Rezko is next door to his house and all of the media is swarming all over.

[deniseds]

Bill should be taping it with a hidden camera.

[UpstateNYRN]

Sounds to me like this guy needs to hit the "Breathalizer" and not a little glass pipe! :D

[Eddie3dfx]

Hillary, don't let michelle near your tooth brushes.. who knows what she will do!

[mjoynaples]

Obama back out would be the best news ever !

behind bars that would be a great house for him

[CGP]

Bill should be taping it with a hidden camera.

Ah, first time I've had a good laugh in days! This one got me! :p

[somerset]

It is just too late around here...no going back. The damage is done: sexism, ageism, racism, lies, filth, slander. We took this very personally and even if she forgives him, we don't. Even if she releases her delegates and campaigns for him, we won't. Our entire family, men and women, are voting for McCain now unless Hillary is our nominee for President. We changed our registrations today. Too late Barry and MEchelle. Go suck an egg.

[lanney]

Hillary is back to her house safe and sound.

[jdona]

They are meeting at Diane Feinsteins house, not her own. That was on Fox News.

[AnnaB]

Just heard on CNN that the meeting is over and was not at her house. The meeting is being called a "first step toward unity meeting". CNN's Anderson Cooper seemed embarrassed that they got the location wrong.

I hate that station, they're all so giddy after yesterday.

[Jen the Michigander]

This is something else I'm secretly fearing: Obama offering Hillary boatloads of money for her delegates and mailing lists (i.e. money to pay off her debt). I hope like hell that she doesn't take the bait.

Nah, after all this is said and done, Hillary should be able to get a helluva book deal that will pay off everything.

[Mrsawd]

some thing is not right or they would have already announce the out come !

[RAFREE]

I am worried that the DNC is/has resorted to "Gestapo" like tactics. It is a political fact of life that if you lose the party's supporter. Your career, no matter who you are is over. If Hillary openly defies them, she is "dead" to the Democratic party and instantly become "Persona Non Gratis".

The DNC also holds TREMENDOUS sway with the Superdelegates. The DNC decides WHO gets financial help from the party and who will be allowed to "run" on a Democratic ticket. The DNC has all the "Hole Cards" here and there is little, if anything to be done. This my fellow forum members is what our OWN DAMN PARTY is willing to do to us.

I am trying to remain hopeful that we can push McCain to victory of the SOB but if not, I am leaving this country. I am now "OFFICIALLY ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN" and it just about breaks my heart.

Wyoming Dem...I've been feeling this way too. My grandfather talked to me when I was only a little girl about how proud he was to be a democrat and what that meant. He grew up when the socialist party was getting real strong hold on Oklahoma and he went democrat right after that because he thought they would take care of people and stand up for helping everyone.
I could have sat down and cried more than once in this whole mess. I'm ashamed too. They don't get it. They think after all the hate that was spewed. All the manipulative things they've done, all the dems they threw under a bus that we will as Americans just ignore this.

My god. There is a whole life time of tradition here. It's not just us, it's our whole family history. It's not just the first viable female candidate. My g.g. was a suffergette. And not one of these values matters to the DNC anymore. Not one. How could have been such a fool to work so hard for these causes under their banner and then have them do this to me and the long line of dems before me??

I always said I would never change my citizenship. I am a dem living abroad and I've been roundly criticized for not getting dual citizenship. I've stood up and said each time no matter the disapproval that I was always an American in my heart and soul and could not even dream of compromising that. I don't know anymore. I just don't know.

It's not just what they did to Hillary Clinton alone though that alone is surely enough to be ashamed of. It's the will of the people being played with here. Sweet merciful jesus in heaven. I feel like I've woken up in a bad, bad dream.

If Hillary goes to the floor of the convention with this I have to be there... this is about fighting for our rights now and no longer just about one election. If they get away with it this time....we may as well not bother voting anymore because they can just manipulate and bully in whoever they want. This sickens me.

[lanney]

some thing is not right or they would have already announce the out come !

Hillary must have showed him middle finger.

[mjoynaples]

we need to do this and we need to rally!

[Mrsawd]

Originally Posted by Mrsawd
some thing is not right or they would have already announce the out come !

Hillary must have showed him middle finger.



:p I would lmao

[MS BLUEGRASS]

I KNOW... And then if you read the source at the top of the thread, it says...



I didn't know her home was in D.C....I thought she was at home in NY??? Incorrect reporting, or am I wrong??

She also has a home in D.C.

[RE:]

She also has a home in D.C.

Thanks Blue...I've seen the error of my ways...:o

[deniseds]

I agree I do think we need a new party. It always seems it is about the extreme right or the extreme left. All money and power and nothing about the people. We just are the pawns. I am so ready for something in the middle where I believe most of us are whether we are Dems or Repubs.

[mooaks]

Wonder why the meeting is at her house?
HMM, maybe because Rezko is next door to his house and all of the media is swarming all over.

You as the so called winner, have to go to your opponents choice of meeting place, if you want to appear sorry that you beat up on her and need her support. After all, she is beyond question his superior in all phases of the campaign. He'll have to have her help to coral those blue collar white voters, middle aged white women, Latino voters, 18 million strong. Hell, by the time he reads this laundry list to Hillary, he might just say hell, I might as well give you the nomination, I can't win without your help. You won all of the important states, and I'm supposed to win with my caucus states?? Hell,
without your help it will be like bringing a knife to a gunfight against McCain. :eek:

[shadow]

I have heard rumors that Hillary has agreed to give her donor base to OB. If so, would that include donations from us? her site is still accepting donations. I would hate to donate, only to learn it went to OB or the DNC. :confused:

[lanney]

Don't forget what BO gang did in RNC.

[lanney]

Don't trust media, we know how they are spreading rumors.
I think Black caucaus want free ride to Obama and goodies for them

[nette60]

Just got a letter from Dean stating the party is new and they won't take money from Lobbyists like the republicans..What a laugh..What had Obama been doing all this time..Then he asked for a donation to help Obama..I just laughed

[mjoynaples]

Don't forget what BO gang did in RNC.

I guess I forgot...what?

[lanney]

Divided MI and florida and took Hillary delegates. Damn RNC.

[Imwithhillary]

Just got a letter from Dean stating the party is new and they won't take money from Lobbyists like the republicans..What a laugh..What had Obama been doing all this time..Then he asked for a donation to help Obama..I just laughed

Nette, I used that letter to unsubscribe to DNC mailings. Felt like I'd had an exorcism. ;)

[ScottVA]

LISTEN UP! CLINTON WILL NOT GIVE UP HER DELEGATES! AGAIN MEDIA SPIN AT IT'S FINEST!

If she gives up her delegates then her campaign is effectively OVER because she has no leverage at the Convention without them! I DO NOT think with all the shit out there about ready to hit El TurdO over the head in the next two months, that she's going to be that stupid to give them up! She is right to suspend her campaign and hang on to her delegates!

[deniseds]

LISTEN UP! CLINTON WILL NOT GIVE UP HER DELEGATES! AGAIN MEDIA SPIN AT IT'S FINEST!

If she gives up her delegates then her campaign is effectively OVER because she has no leverage at the Convention without them! I DO NOT think with all the shit out there about ready to hit El TurdO over the head in the next two months, that she's going to be that stupid to give them up! She is right to suspend her campaign and hang on to her delegates!

I hope that you are right and she will do that. I can't help thinking they are trying very hard to offer her some sort of deal. I guess we find out on Saturday.

[Brooke]

Thanks CF1992...I was confused, because earlier they were saying that she was at home in NY...That makes sense now.

No problemo.

[lanney]

Bo met Edwards, even Mr.Hair just suspended his campaign, very late in game he endrose him.
Hillary should keep that her delegates.

[endodoc79]

No one can save the Democratic party. Gestapo tactics have been ongoing. They have taken everything they could take away already. Hillary, all you have left is your dignity and your supporters. Don't let them take us away too!

[chris4Hillary]

*shudder* the idea of that man in Hillary's house make me feel ill. He shouldn't even be allowed to cross the threshold of her home.

Something about this upsets me. I just have too much respect for her to think about him showing up there after all he's done.

I won't believe this till Hillary says it happened. No I won't.

I'd have something waiting for BO if he came to my house. :cool:

[ScottVA]

I hope that you are right and she will do that. I can't help thinking they are trying very hard to offer her some sort of deal. I guess we find out on Saturday.

Well the event on Saturday is something she HAS TO DO because she signed an agreement a few weeks ago (as did he) to make fundraising appearances to support a pseudo nominee.... Her saying she supports him is NOT an endorsement nor is it ending anything for her in this race to the Convention!

She has to know that Obama is going to get hit by a speeding bus before then so if she were to give up her delegates it would effective end that for her.... the MEDIA is just spinning that point.... BUT IF SHE IS STUPID AND DOES THIS........then I'll effectively start sending my checks to McCain and actively do some GAY REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM! My partner and I both EACH gave Clinton a maxed Primary donation and we'll give our maxed GE donation to McCain if it hands a CAN OF WHOOP ASS to El TurdO! I think I'm starting to enjoy the thought of this MAJOR ASS KICKING to El TurdO and the DNC in November! MY THOUGHTS THOUGH..... Obama gets an indictment handed to him in the next 45 days by Patrick Fitzgerald! A few of those convictions yesterday were tied directly to dealings with things that Obama and Gov. Blagojevich had a hand in....... especially stacking the deck on committees to get Rezko deals in lieu of kickbacks..... THIS ONE WILL KILL El TurdO's political career!

[Hillaryisourhero]

they just reported the obama camp confirmed there was a meeting between barack obama and hillary tonight and it was in washington and was about party unity

[hillary4change]

On Fox - Major Garrett is relaying how upset the Obama people were that Hillary rained on his parade Tuesday evening. He listed all the things that they wanted to hear her say - like "momentous candidacy, moment, blah, blah blah. How egotistical can he be?



BTW: They are still talking about how they expect us to come around. don't they get that this is not the typical primary season? In the past, I usually had a preferred candidate. Sometimes HE prevailed, often he didn't. Did I harden my position and refuse to support the nominee? - No. In fact, sometimes I came to appreciate the eventual nominee better than I did my initial preference. This year is so different. There is no way I'm falling in line behind him!

There is speculation that BO might be at Saturday's event. I hope not. This is her and our moment.

BTW: Notice how Hillary is dominating the news cycle for the past two days?


My husband and I were talking about this yesterday. The media won't stop talking about how "SHE" is stealing his thunder, and on and on they go. They are the ones stealing his thunder by talking incessantly about her stealing his thunder and then blaming her for it!! Fair and balanced reporting gotta love it!

[hillary4change]

This is something else I'm secretly fearing: Obama offering Hillary boatloads of money for her delegates and mailing lists (i.e. money to pay off her debt). I hope like hell that she doesn't take the bait.

I've already asked to be removed from her mailing list in case she does sell her list. We all know how Obama "won" Edwards endorsement. He bought it, period.

She would never do that!!

[Musicdude]

What's in it for Hillary to campaign for Obama? She can just suspend her campaign temporarily and go back to the Senate. Other candidates have done the same thing.

"I have 18million voters. You have the Superdelegates. Have them help you. The DNC gave you 29.5 extra delegates. Just have them give you votes in the general election. Meanwhile, I have work to do in the Senate. See ya at the convention."

[floorrunner]

Secret meeting now with B.O. and Hill at her house in Wash.on MSNBC I know

The meeting was not at her Washington home. It was at the Washington home of Senator Diane Fienstein.

[Mrsawd]

The other post in other thread says BO called the Meeting If He did you know it is because he is scared because all his baggage is coming to life !

[Peppermint Patty]

Well, I hope she holds on to ALL her delegates with her life.

This remind me of when I was a kid and we'd order the girl out of the treehouse because she had "cooties".:rolleyes:

LOL, wow, that was YOU??? Yup, when I was a girl that would happen to me and my girlfriends... usually trying to play with my brother and his friends.

[Laura Cereta]

Listen, we freaked out at the idea of her accepting the VP spot and she said today she doesn't want it. We've got to trust the intelligence of this woman. I know she's under a lot of party pressure, but I have faith she will only "suspend" and "support" and then she will go around stumping for him b/c she has to. We're not going to pay attention to anything about party unity. Hillary wants to be President. 18 million people want her to be President. Just stay the course...

[ScottVA]

The other post in other thread says BO called the Meeting If He did you know it is because he is scared because all his baggage is coming to life !

I BELIEVE FROM A POLITCAL STANDPOINT HE AND THE DNC ARE SCARED! THEY KNOW THAT IT'S OVER WITHOUT CLINTON SUPPORTERS........ESPECIALLY IF WE DEFECTED TO MCCAIN! IN CALIFORNIA ALONE THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY SPELL LOSS FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER! NO DEMOCRAT CAN LOSE CA AND STILL WIN!

[hillaryhoosier]

They probably had it at Diane's house so she could act as a mediator and try to get Hillary to see "reason."

Also, so that the meeting was on neutral territory as I'm sure there is great animosity between them right now.

[CGP]

"I have 18million voters. You have the Superdelegates. Have them help you. The DNC gave you 29.5 extra delegates. Just have them give you votes in the general election. Meanwhile, I have work to do in the Senate. See ya at the convention."

I'd add in a few expletives for emphasis, but I do like the overall sentiment! ;)

[Peppermint Patty]

I BELIEVE FROM A POLITCAL STANDPOINT HE AND THE DNC ARE SCARED! THEY KNOW THAT IT'S OVER WITHOUT CLINTON SUPPORTERS........ESPECIALLY IF WE DEFECTED TO MCCAIN! IN CALIFORNIA ALONE THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY SPELL LOSS FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER! NO DEMOCRAT CAN LOSE CA AND STILL WIN!

I wish you were right, but I think CA will still go Democratic. :mad:

We are nothing if not very liberal from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

[ZY123]

I wish you were right, but I think CA will still go Democratic. :mad:

We are nothing if not very liberal from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

SF and LA are liberal but not the parts in between...or OC. ;)

[ScottVA]

Listen, we freaked out at the idea of her accepting the VP spot and she said today she doesn't want it. We've got to trust the intelligence of this woman. I know she's under a lot of party pressure, but I have faith she will only "suspend" and "support" and then she will go around stumping for him b/c she has to. We're not going to pay attention to anything about party unity. Hillary wants to be President. 18 million people want her to be President. Just stay the course...

WELL SAID AND TOTALLY TRUE! SHE'S GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS AT THE MOMENT.... AND SHE'S REALLY IN CONTROL BETWEEN NOW AND THE CONVENTION IF SHE KEEPS HER DELEGATES AND SHE KNOWS THIS....

[ScottVA]

SF and LA are liberal but not the parts in between...or OC. ;)

I know it's hard to believe BUT it is possible that CA can go GOP if McCain get's enough of Clinton's former voters!
All you've got to do ... is do the math... I think that Schwartzenegger will campaign hard for McCain too and remember Clinton did VERY WELL with the Latino voters in CA.... that voting block alone could be the key to turning CA RED for this GE. He is very popular with Latinos because of his immigration stance that pisses off his own Party!

[Peppermint Patty]

SF and LA are liberal but not the parts in between...or OC. ;)

Very true, but somehow CA always goes DEM/Blue in Federal elections. However, they did vote for Arnold... but then that's Governors... we have a mix we swap out Dem then Rep, then Dem, etc. :D

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I still think she turned him down. I think he is trying to get her to rein us in. Fat chance Dumbo boy lol I love those ears makes him look like hes about to fly

[Peppermint Patty]

I know it's hard to believe BUT it is possible that CA can go GOP if McCain get's enough of Clinton's former voters!
All you've got to do ... is do the math... I think that Schwartzenegger will campaign hard for McCain too and remember Clinton did VERY WELL with the Latino voters in CA.... that voting block alone could be the key to turning CA RED for this GE. He is very popular with Latinos because of his immigration stance that pisses off his own Party!

Well believe me I will be pushing for McCain! Most of my family of Dems will vote for McCain too and of course the Reps. Only my best friend and her hubby (he's Latino) will vote for NObama!!! So see you can't count on the Latinos to go Rep! And one of my Jewish friends, who is orig from NY, will vote BO. :( However my other close friend who is Jewish from Jersey, she says if Hillary is not VP then she will hold her nose and vote for McCain... she was turned off by McCain's sexist remarks! And all this time she was adamant that if not Hillary then McCain... I need to knock back some sense into her! Geesh.

However, that said, I think when the you-know-what really hits the fan for BO he will be toast and these people will go for McCain. Another friend who is very liberal just HATES BO... she thinks at least McCain is a war hero, has experience and has served his country honorably... and she's pretty young. So there you go, it runs the gamut out here... sigh.

[ScottVA]

Well believe me I will be pushing for McCain! Most of my family of Dems will vote for McCain too and of course the Reps. Only my best friend and her hubby (he's Latino) will vote for NObama!!! So see you can't count on the Latinos to go Rep! And one of my Jewish friends, who is orig from NY, will vote BO. :( However my other close friend who is Jewish from Jersey, she says if Hillary is not VP then she will hold her nose and vote for McCain... she was turned off by McCain's sexist remarks! And all this time she was adamant that if not Hillary then McCain... I need to knock back some sense into her! Geesh.

However, that said, I think when the you-know-what really hits the fan for BO he will be toast and these people will go for McCain. Another friend who is very liberal just HATES BO... she thinks at least McCain is a war hero, has experience and has served his country honorably... and she's pretty young. So there you go, it runs the gamut out here... sigh.

I didn't say ALL Latinos in CA would go for McCain... but I bet the majority do... I've not met one Latino in my travels that support Obama.... many think that the AA community look down on them (a concern that was told to me by more then one Latino)....

I still think CA is in play for McCain if he's running against Obama!

[ZY123]

Very true, but somehow CA always goes DEM/Blue in Federal elections. However, they did vote for Arnold... but then that's Governors... we have a mix we swap out Dem then Rep, then Dem, etc. :D

Also I'd say San Jose (think older computer geeks) could swing conservative. But yeah hard core city of LA and DEFINITELY SF (lolol....LA is conservative compared to SF!) will be hard to swing. But if we can get the conservatives and Clinton supporters gone Republican out we can at least give Obama a run for his money in an Obama vs. McCain matchup (assuming Obama doesn't implode first - which he will!....resulting in the better nominee ;)).

[ZY123]

I know it's hard to believe BUT it is possible that CA can go GOP if McCain get's enough of Clinton's former voters!
All you've got to do ... is do the math... I think that Schwartzenegger will campaign hard for McCain too and remember Clinton did VERY WELL with the Latino voters in CA.... that voting block alone could be the key to turning CA RED for this GE. He is very popular with Latinos because of his immigration stance that pisses off his own Party!

Ahhhhhnooold. I think of it this way, if liberal CA throws out their Democratic governor in a crazy recall election (which included candidates as irrelevant as Mary Carey and Huffington) then we could possibly go red given the right set of circumstances.

[Viktoriya]

I BELIEVE FROM A POLITCAL STANDPOINT HE AND THE DNC ARE SCARED! THEY KNOW THAT IT'S OVER WITHOUT CLINTON SUPPORTERS........ESPECIALLY IF WE DEFECTED TO MCCAIN! IN CALIFORNIA ALONE THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY SPELL LOSS FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER! NO DEMOCRAT CAN LOSE CA AND STILL WIN!

I agree, that is why she is not going to release her delegates, but she will promiss to support him (she will keep delegates "just in case, because we need to put Democrat in the White house;)")

He will agree and right after Saturday Hillary speech, he or his camapaign will came out and say: now the most important person - Hillary is behind us blah-blah-blah - we united to fight Republicans. He and DNC will stop pressure on Hillary to release delegates.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

LISTEN UP! CLINTON WILL NOT GIVE UP HER DELEGATES! AGAIN MEDIA SPIN AT IT'S FINEST!

If she gives up her delegates then her campaign is effectively OVER because she has no leverage at the Convention without them! I DO NOT think with all the shit out there about ready to hit El TurdO over the head in the next two months, that she's going to be that stupid to give them up! She is right to suspend her campaign and hang on to her delegates!

They hijacked her votes. Now she's holding the DNC hostage with her delegates!:D No one can win without her delegates. It has to be a floor fight. I'm loving this.

[Viktoriya]

Just got a letter from Dean stating the party is new and they won't take money from Lobbyists like the republicans..What a laugh..What had Obama been doing all this time..Then he asked for a donation to help Obama..I just laughed

I replied that Tony Rezko is coming to mind...

[ScottVA]

That Rezko conviction was MAJOR..... I don't think a lot of people thought that he'd get convicted at all because the star witness was a little cooky....... I think the conviction came mostly on the ground work the prosecution put into the case.....research and compiling records and numbers etc... Obama and the Gov are in a little hot water now and I think the DNC are squirming.....

[Viktoriya]

That Rezko conviction was MAJOR..... I don't think a lot of people thought that he'd get convicted at all because the star witness was a little cooky....... I think the conviction came mostly on the ground work the prosecution put into the case.....research and compiling records and numbers etc... Obama and the Gov are in a little hot water now and I think the DNC are squirming.....

I wonder when MSM will start to invest in this story.
It is huge.

[RE:]

Listen, we freaked out at the idea of her accepting the VP spot and she said today she doesn't want it. We've got to trust the intelligence of this woman. I know she's under a lot of party pressure, but I have faith she will only "suspend" and "support" and then she will go around stumping for him b/c she has to. We're not going to pay attention to anything about party unity. Hillary wants to be President. 18 million people want her to be President. Just stay the course...

I AGREE!!!!!:D

[RE:]

They hijacked her votes. Now she's holding the DNC hostage with her delegates!:D No one can win without her delegates. It has to be a floor fight. I'm loving this.

DENVER...DENVER...DENVER...DAMMIT!!!!!

[Joe from WI]

why should she give up her delegates?

She fought hard to have 50 states (50) counted and she knows she is the best for the presidency and BO is UNFITY (UNFIT) to be president.

How can she turn around and say we should support BO??? Even if she really says that, i'm NEVER gonna vote for him. I vote for the best candidate. ANd i know Hillary is FORCED to endorse him. She knows very well he is unfit for presidency but her senate job is on the line and DNC is forcing her to get behind BO. After they used her dry to get all our votes, BO is gonna throw her some insignificant job as a "VP" and perhaps report daily to MO.

[Mrs L]

Don't hold me to this but I think I heard on the news today that Hillary is in DC and Bill stayed in New York. I can't see her meeting with Obama (or Oblahblah as someome here says) in private though. She would have to have some advisors present, don't you think?


You may already know this now, but it was held at Diane Feinsteins home.

[Kaylin]

off the top of my head...two conditions I would love to see Hillary insist upon as non-negotiable in her meeting with Obama:

1. fire David Axelrod...this is the PIG who tried to spin Geraldine Ferraro as
a racist for making observations that Obama himself had made. not
acceptable.

2. no position in the campaign for Donna Brazile...anyone who could
essentially suggest the Dems might be able to disenfranchise rural
working class voters (and leave them without leadership) is too
stupid to be in a high profile position or position of authority.

[Kaylin]

oh yeah I forgot...two factoids I hope Hillary doesn't point out to Obama, because they would help him.

1. if he chooses Kathleen Sebelius as veep, not only will Hill supporters be
incensed that he chose a woman who isn't Hillary, Bill O'Reilly LOATHES Kathleen Sebelius and if she's on the ticket, he'll devote the first ten minutes of his show EVERY SINGLE NIGHT BETWEEN NOW AND THE ELECTION telling his viewers WHY Sebelius should be nowhere near the presidency.

2. Jim Webb...hehe, did some research on Jim Webb and he's a good guy. the problem is he's been married THREE TIMES.

[Angelica91]

OMG!:eek:Why this meeting??? and then at her home..!
No, Hillary, no! Keep your delegates, please!
These are sad days...uff:mad:
I am becoming very angry!:mad:

[Sandy in PA]

oh yeah I forgot...two factoids I hope Hillary doesn't point out to Obama, because they would help him.

1. if he chooses Kathleen Sebelius as veep, not only will Hill supporters be
incensed that he chose a woman who isn't Hillary, Bill O'Reilly LOATHES Kathleen Sebelius and if she's on the ticket, he'll devote the first ten minutes of his show EVERY SINGLE NIGHT BETWEEN NOW AND THE ELECTION telling his viewers WHY Sebelius should be nowhere near the presidency.

2. Jim Webb...hehe, did some research on Jim Webb and he's a good guy. the problem is he's been married THREE TIMES.

It would be good for us if he picked Kathleen Sebelius. There are a lot of people who hate her, including the Bishop of Kansas city who told her she was not welcome to take Communion in the Catholic Church because of her radical partial birth and live birth abortion positions. Its been big news in Kansas & Missouri.

[Angelica91]

I am very agry with Hillary! Why this meeting?
She musn't GIVE UP HER DELEGATES! WE MUST GO TO THE CONVETION! AND SHE MUSN'T ACCEPT TO BE VP!:mad:
I think Hillary has a plan or she's becoming crazy!:mad::)

[Christines]

We have to trust Hillary! She is politically smart and will do what is best! She will become President!

That is what she really wants! She knows that the citizens of this country need her!

[Angelica91]

We have to trust Hillary! She is politically smart and will do what is best! She will become President!

That is what she really wants! She knows that the citizens of this country need her!
I hope you are right!:) I believe in Hillary but I know also DNC leaders told her to quit for her good!:mad:
I hate them!:mad:

[PA_Voter]

It would be good for us if he picked Kathleen Sebelius. There are a lot of people who hate her, including the Bishop of Kansas city who told her she was not welcome to take Communion in the Catholic Church because of her radical partial birth and live birth abortion positions. Its been big news in Kansas & Missouri.
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Looking at only a few States that SurveyUSA polled, it looks like it would be a good choice for Hillary! Now that I read somewhere on this forum that Edwards doesn't want the VP slot (I'm sure BO's already agreed to another position with him), BO's in a worse position because Edwards seemed to be polling the best.

[hillary1]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/

JUDAS and the other sexist ******* democratic leaders are trying to get Hillary to release ALL of her delegates to Obama. Now why would they want her to do that? Lets see..

The first vote is the pledged delegate vote. Obama isn't going to make it and NEITHER is Hillary. By rule Obama will only be MADE the nominee on the 2nd vote which is held by SUPER DELEGATES. Now the supers who were strong armed into backing Obama don't necessarily feel good about it. Presumptive nominee? Ya right only when the brokers put you over the top. Supers and it won't take that many could easily flip on Obama especially since he pissed off half the party.. Saturday will be very telling. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run her out of politics if she doens't release them. Then again Edwards held his delegates but nobody said nothing. Aint sexism ugly...

i heard lastnight hillary wants a roll call, first time since 1964 i believe that this will be done if it is done

hillary is putting her political career on the line with this, we all must stay supportive for her, and the dnc must know we as democrats, and we as staunch supporters of hillary clinton will not allow their excessive abuse of hillary clinton to continue to go on

we will destroy the democratic party if need be, we need to lobby in order to get others to step up as nominees who want to be part of a third party, we need to start from some where, AND THIS GRASSROOTS EFFORT WOULD BE JUST THE PLACE TO START

THERE ARE MANY IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE TIRED OF THE WHORES IN WASHINGTON PLAYING THE SAME OLD GAME, WE NEED NEW BLOOD, WE NEED NEW PEOPLE WHO WILL STEP UP AND FACE THE FACT THIS COUNTRY IS IN DIRE NEED OF HELP, HELP FOR ALL, NOT JUST LOBBYISTS PANDERING AND SLEEPING WITH THE WHORES OF WASHINGTON TO GET THEIR WAY

THIS COUNTRY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, NOT THE WHORES OF WASHINGTON, WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK

[hills]

What is a roll call? Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am new to politics

[smsemedic]

me too....what is a roll call and where did you hear this?

[mjoynaples]

anyone can you confirm this as yet? also ... are we her people going to this shindig to support her or are we leaving her to deal with the obambots alone?
I cannot go and may not be able to watch depends what time is on? DETAILS? is anyone going? what is the mood here on this now?:confused:

[Mrsawd]

WHY NOW WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO COVER UP ?


Just got a letter from Dean stating the party is new and they won't take money from Lobbyists like the republicans..What a laugh..What had Obama been doing all this time..Then he asked for a donation to help Obama..I just laughed

[mjoynaples]

SHE is going to DENVER... and if they say this outloud then AMERICA WILL KNOW!!! and hopefully enough crap MORE CRAP will be made public for ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll people to hear... you know the average person doesn't know what is going on and they think oh well, was for HRC now for BO he's a dem.. FORGET THIS thinking what he did he should be arrested for this is what women in companies and ceo's who have suffered abuse after abuse have worked hard to get justice in this country to say "hey you cannot treat me abusively or sexist or misosynistically because of my gender... forget it... and then they took some to court and won and changed things except it is clear that it only physical changed things second order change or real change is change of mind and heart and way of being and clearly these sexist pigs loom large in politics and the money behind them and media and those women need to feel most ashamed that this was done to them and then they did it to one of their own... men do not do this they say nothing and move on... they do not character assasinate like these women did to Hillary... WE NEED TO EXPOSE THIS MORE this is why she needs to keep going because we do not want a crook as president or a liar and voter cheater... he stole her votes... and more!

DENVER .... we need a new t-shirt and make some money so we can support her to help pay off her debt so she is free to do what she wants and is not beholdin' to anyone!

[mjoynaples]

Hillary is not interested in the VP you A$$!! SHE IS GOING TO DENVER for nomination!!!! get with it... and we are all going with her and voting for her!!!! GO Hillary!!!!

I just called her office they were thrilled to hear the support... this is on another thread will write more there! 703-469-2008!!! :)GO HILLARY!

[CriticalOne]

Oh, yes! I really hope it's true that's she's demanding a roll-call at the convention. If they still deny her there we will have seen every last traiterous superdelegate, and we'd put all of their positions on the chopping block.

Roll call! Roll call! Roll call!

That should be our new slogan.

[hillarymyhero]

I don't care,if, they meet or not. All I care is for America and right now supporting McCain and Hillary 2012.

[Hillarysmygirl08]

yes unless of course he implodes