Is Obama campaign allowing people to express hate for jews on his website?

[dontrustobama]

People must read this. I cannot believe that Obama, while he personally didnt post this, is allowing this on his official web site. He stands on stage saying he is a friend of the jewish community and then allows his web site to be used for this: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarloscruz/gG5BSr

[Annie]

People must read this. I cannot believe that Obama, while he personally didnt post this, is allowing this on his official web site. He stands on stage saying he is a friend of the jewish community and then allows his web site to be used for this: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarloscruz/gG5BSr


Send it to Joe Lieberman and all the members of congress who are Jewish. time for a change - a real change to get rid of Obama now.

[dontrustobama]

I'm sending it to Hillary and McCain. DONT SEND IT TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT MAKE HIM REMOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[freespirit]

Wow! That is absolutely stunning! What the hell is wrong with Obama. What's wrong with Dem leaders. I'm glad to be leaving the damn party.

[Hillarysmygirl08]

DO NOT SEND THIS TO HILLARY LEAVE HER OUT OF THIS. What happens she must have clean hands of this whole thing. Just give it to Lieberman and the other Jewish leaders.

[Musicdude]

AT the top of the blog it says its a post from "Socialists for Obama"

Everything about that article is inciting hate.

[dontrustobama]

Hillary must have this to go to Denver with to show that Obama is not fit for office

[dontrustobama]

This site may be gone fast folks save the proof that it is there. Make hard copies fast folks dont let it get away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[agalfromcal4hill]

we need to send this to FOX media. That page is totally anti-jew and clearly what BO supports. We must push this before it's lost. Somebody save the page and info before it gets scrubbed. I'm not that computer literate!!

[mjno7777]

I posted this before and now, this is the 7/22 church bulletin from TRINITY CHURCH. On page 10, you can see it is clearly PRO-HAMAS. I hope they didn't scrub this link YET.

http://www.tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf

[swannyj]

take a screen shot

[Annie]

Make a copy of it right away - it will get scrubbed.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

"Write to your Senator warning him that taking bribes from Jews is a sin."

And this...."+ Pray To The Lord Jesus Christ To Either Convert The Jews Or Conquer Them Through The Power Of His Cross!"

What I'd like to know is where the hell is our so called "president" and "Homeland Security Team". Unbelievable. This is so out of control.

[trading wine for beer]

Keep in mind that anyone can post a blog on his page. There's no way that trying to tie this to Obama will stick. I'm sure one of his supporters clicked on the "report abuse" links and it will be taken down as soon as one of the moderators see it.

I don't know BO's true stance on the issue of that particular blog entry, but, I do know that you'd be wasting your time and energy trying to get this thing to have legs. Hannity et. al. won't touch it cuz it can't be directly tied to BO.

My advice is to focus on things that might actually grow legs, as these types of things (the hateful blog entry on his site) are only distractions that will spin your energy away for nothing.

[Eddie3dfx]

Unbelievable.

[Artists4Hillary]

The radical left strikes again. They are pro-pal and bigoted. In a way, this is good he has it on his site. Makes the real Obama and his supporters disgusting attitudes out there for all to see. THE REAL OBAMA. I am going to blog this to the Jewish community, and report this to the ADL. Everyone should call the ADL tomorrow before this is scrubbed. Copy and paste to show it to everyone.

* I copied and pasted and sent this to the press, to reporters I am in touch with.

[kyforhillary]

Can anyone copy that whole page and keep it in case they scrub it? I don't know how to do that.

[dontrustobama]

just how long this is up at Obamas web site. Base upon how long it is up in my opinion will determine if he advocates what is being said or not. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS I ALREADY HAVE A COMPLETE HARD COPY.

[dontrustobama]

This has been up since APRIL!

[Annie]

I posted this before and now, this is the 7/22 church bulletin from TRINITY CHURCH. On page 10, you can see it is clearly PRO-HAMAS. I hope they didn't scrub this link YET.

http://www.tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf

Copy it and send it on to the delegates/members of congress. Fox. CNN.
Time for them to wake up.

[Artists4Hillary]

Can anyone copy that whole page and keep it in case they scrub it? I don't know how to do that.

I did, along with the comments. Now have it in my files.

[Linda C]

I went poking around...The have a Thread of "We are One'.

About as comforting as being assimilated into the Borg.

[Artists4Hillary]

Keep in mind that anyone can post a blog on his page. There's no way that trying to tie this to Obama will stick. I'm sure one of his supporters clicked on the "report abuse" links and it will be taken down as soon as one of the moderators see it.

I don't know BO's true stance on the issue of that particular blog entry, but, I do know that you'd be wasting your time and energy trying to get this thing to have legs. Hannity et. al. won't touch it cuz it can't be directly tied to BO.

My advice is to focus on things that might actually grow legs, as these types of things (the hateful blog entry on his site) are only distractions that will spin your energy away for nothing.

I disagree. This is very important. It is tied with Obama, because this reflects the attitude of this supporters.

[eyedoc333]

This has been up since APRIL!

If it's been up since April, his staff must know about it, yet are doing nothing about it. Silence implies assent.

[ShyFire]

The TUCC booklet is a PDF file- the entire 40 pages can be saved.

Damning reading starting at page 10, eh?

[suerw]

This site may be gone fast folks save the proof that it is there. Make hard copies fast folks dont let it get away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm printing hard copy now before this gets scrubbed from his site. Good suggestion.


_____________________________________________


Independent thought, Independent voice, Independent vote

[ZY123]

I hate being quoted out of context so I deleted this.

[santafegal]

Hopefully when enough of thesetype of things get out, people will come to realize the kind of person BO really is....a duplicitous and dangerous.

[Artists4Hillary]

This has been up since April, so it is obvious no one has reported this as Report Objectionable Content.

[trading wine for beer]

If it's been up since April, his staff must know about it, yet are doing nothing about it. Silence implies assent.

it has only been up since last night according to the date stamp on the post. I still think that it particular "example" is not a good one to use against Obama. I think that this is a good example of something that can be used against Hillary supporters... as in "look, any jo schmo can post something on BO's blog and the crazy Hillary supporters want to tie it to BO... grasping at straws laced with oil".

I think that energy needs to be given to areas that can ACTUALLY make a difference or that has potential to stick. This blog example does not.

[dontrustobama]

It is only my opinion but this has been on Obamas OFFICIAL web site since april. Simply based upon his non removal of this hate retoric on his site does that not say that he is involved with disemminating hate retoric? Is it not a crime to disseminate hate retoric?

[Lodi]

DO NOT SEND THIS TO HILLARY LEAVE HER OUT OF THIS. What happens she must have clean hands of this whole thing. Just give it to Lieberman and the other Jewish leaders.

And O'Reilly and Hannity!

[Catherine]

Comment - Just copied from BO's official site:

By Christina from Saint Petersburg, FL 25 minutes ago
Obama DOES NOT advocate this!
Take this down!!!
You are going to get this campaign in trouble!!!!


Angry Hill supporters are ALREADY emailing this to RNC!!


TAKE THIS DOWN, NOW.

Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign.


You bet we are!

[ZY123]

it has only been up since last night according to the date stamp on the post. I still think that it particular "example" is not a good one to use against Obama. I think that this is a good example of something that can be used against Hillary supporters... as in "look, any jo schmo can post something on BO's blog and the crazy Hillary supporters want to tie it to BO... grasping at straws laced with oil".

I think that energy needs to be given to areas that can ACTUALLY make a difference or that has potential to stick. This blog example does not.

If Obama is still focusing on trying to fight Clinton supporters and blame Clinton supporters his campaign will fail big time. He declared that he won...he needs to take on the rest of us non Democrats now...and we won't be near as willing to put up with his crap.

If the blog was put up yesterday....my original point stands...another grain of evidence in the ever growing bucket that Obama is anti-Israel. The evidence for this claim is everywhere including words that came straight from Obama's mouth.

[Eddie3dfx]

I am doing something good.. will post many pictures in a sec for his hatred of jews and israel.. give me 3mins

[PAangelRN]

I posted this before and now, this is the 7/22 church bulletin from TRINITY CHURCH. On page 10, you can see it is clearly PRO-HAMAS. I hope they didn't scrub this link YET.

http://www.tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf

That one you can print out or even save as a file on your computer.

[dontrustobama]

it has only been up since last night according to the date stamp on the post. I still think that it particular "example" is not a good one to use against Obama. I think that this is a good example of something that can be used against Hillary supporters... as in "look, any jo schmo can post something on BO's blog and the crazy Hillary supporters want to tie it to BO... grasping at straws laced with oil".

I think that energy needs to be given to areas that can ACTUALLY make a difference or that has potential to stick. This blog example does not.

I was wrong it has only been up since last night. It apparently , in part, was taken from a blog from April, however the fact that it is still up since last night goes to show that either the people working to moderate Obamas bloggs are inept or he agrees with it. Does anyone know exactly how this Juan Carlos is associated with Obama?

[Qulin]

Why in the world would you promote such hate, people this not good. I am passing the links along to others.

[Eddie3dfx]

That one you can print out or even save as a file on your computer.

Give me a minute.. trying to upload all of these files :D

[Kaylin]

follow the Socialists for Obama link for all blog entries...this guy has been blogging on the Obama site since February 29th.

[dontrustobama]

I have a complete 20 page hard copy as well as saved to my files on my computer.

[trading wine for beer]

Not really... It says something about who some of his supporters are. And, I'm totally not defending BO in my "caution"... I'm saying that this is an example that is not helpful to exposing Obama. Regardless of if he subscribes to these ideals and such, posts to his blog by random "supporters" will not sway anyone away from him. Now, if it is one of his advisors or campaign staff, that'd be a little different. I think that if we go all APB on anything and everything random BO supporters say, it makes us look reactive and like a bunch of chickens running around yelling about the sky falling.

Besides, some very awesome people I know are huge BO supporters. They have excellent values and are very socially conscious and are just all around great people. This, alone, would make me think BO must be the cats meow... but... I don't think that he is. My point is, you can't say "look what kind of supporters he draws" without seeing people you love and respect in that list. I'm sure Hillary has supporters that we wouldn't want people to hold against her.

Again, not sticking up for BO... rather, sticking up for us (Hillary supporters)... as, pushing these types of examples will just make us look desperate.

Also, y'all need to look at the date of the blog post before you send out emails to other people and major MSM folk telling them it's been up since April. The post just went up last night (according to the date of the post), not in April. People will see the date first. This will kill your credibility before they even read the hate filled message.

[Eddie3dfx]

Just posted all the pictures and some articles

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15655

[dontrustobama]

follow the Socialists for Obama link for all blog entries...this guy has been blogging on the Obama site since February 29th.

cant find that. help

[Dendy]

OMG.
I got like 20 snapshots of everything and I'll keep it as a prove.

[Mrs L]

Comment - Just copied from BO's official site:




You bet we are!

Obviously this person is hiding withing this Forum.

By Christina from Saint Petersburg, FL 25 minutes ago
Obama DOES NOT advocate this!
Take this down!!!
You are going to get this campaign in trouble!!!!


Angry Hill supporters are ALREADY emailing this to RNC!!

[Kaylin]

don'ttrust...the header of his blog..."Socialists for Obama" click on that, it links to all his blog entries on the Obama site...they go back to February 29th.

[ZY123]

Not really... It says something about who some of his supporters are. And, I'm totally not defending BO in my "caution"... I'm saying that this is an example that is not helpful to exposing Obama. Regardless of if he subscribes to these ideals and such, posts to his blog by random "supporters" will not sway anyone away from him. Now, if it is one of his advisors or campaign staff, that'd be a little different. I think that if we go all APB on anything and everything random BO supporters say, it makes us look reactive and like a bunch of chickens running around yelling about the sky falling.

Besides, some very awesome people I know are huge BO supporters. They have excellent values and are very socially conscious and are just all around great people. This, alone, would make me think BO must be the cats meow... but... I don't think that he is. My point is, you can't say "look what kind of supporters he draws" without seeing people you love and respect in that list. I'm sure Hillary has supporters that we wouldn't want people to hold against her.

Again, not sticking up for BO... rather, sticking up for us (Hillary supporters)... as, pushing these types of examples will just make us look desperate.

Also, y'all need to look at the date of the blog post before you send out emails to other people and major MSM folk telling them it's been up since April. The post just went up last night (according to the date of the post), not in April. People will see the date first. This will kill your credibility before they even read the hate filled message.

FYI I was not supporting pushing the blog....please read the rest (actually I just deleted it because I don't want anyone else taking it out of context). I would appreciate it if you unquoted my message because taken out of context like that it misses my point. My point is only that the very words that have come out Obama's mouth and his very own actions show me what Obama feels about the Jewish community and what his positions on Israel are. He does not support Israel.

I care less about this one blog but I do care about the big supporters (not the one person here or there) Obama may have and the causes they represent. Keep in mind Obama was endorsed by Hamas.

[Artists4Hillary]

That one you can print out or even save as a file on your computer.

Send this and the blog to AIPAC. I'm going to call tomorrow and ask how to send it to them. They only have telephone numbers to contact national headquarters. No direct email with a comments section.

[MaryKay]

AT the top of the blog it says its a post from "Socialists for Obama"

Everything about that article is inciting hate.

Yeah, and I checked all the links to see if the page was a hoax, but all seem to lead back to his web site. Of course, I think it would be easy enough to link back.

That's not only offensive to my Jewish friends, but also to those of us who have family who left Eastern Europe to escape communism. I do not mind government run health care, or some other forms of programs if they really do help us have a better America, but this is just over the top.

[dontrustobama]

This cannot hurt Hillary. It can only serve to destroy Obama unless it can be proven that there is some type of link to Hillary which we all know there wont be but there is an obvious link to Obama since February!

[blueskygal]

Keep in mind that anyone can post a blog on his page. There's no way that trying to tie this to Obama will stick. I'm sure one of his supporters clicked on the "report abuse" links and it will be taken down as soon as one of the moderators see it.

I don't know BO's true stance on the issue of that particular blog entry, but, I do know that you'd be wasting your time and energy trying to get this thing to have legs. Hannity et. al. won't touch it cuz it can't be directly tied to BO.

My advice is to focus on things that might actually grow legs, as these types of things (the hateful blog entry on his site) are only distractions that will spin your energy away for nothing.

He IS RESPONSIBLE for what is on his website. If Hillary had trash like that on hers it would be jumped on right away. I made a copy and sent it to McCain's blog, Lieberman, and fox news.

[Kaylin]

MaryKay, the links don't only lead to his web site. the header link "Socialists for Obama" leads to all his blog entries right on the Obama site, which go all the way back to February 29th.

[MaryKay]

I agree. He didn't say any of this himself, nor did his top advisors, but he allows this garbage on his website. Hillary's web site would have removed this type of material, and if he wants to truly be a uniter, he should caution supporters against putting any threads out there that could be perceived as racist or offensive. I am not saying people don't have freedom of speech, but he has to start with his own supporters first and teach them the way to unity.

[dontrustobama]

This guy has been posting on Obamas web site since Feb 29th. I am now making hard copies of everything he has ever written on Obamas site. Havent read everything but loved the "Corporate Zionist Hillary Clinton is a liar" that was posted march 1st and obama hasnt taken it down yet

[dontrustobama]

I am at this moment printing hard copies of everything that this guy ever wrote on Obamas site

[CGP]

That page has been removed...or at least the link produces an "error" result.

[Kaylin]

oh, good...glad you found the rest of the blog entries, don'ttrust. yeah, they are doozies.

[Eddie3dfx]

That page has been removed...or at least the link produces an "error" result.

Good thing i copied it.

[dontrustobama]

sure lets back an obama that is disseminating information like this. "Hillary Clinton and her anti-muslim fascism cannot be president of United States" posted march 8th and still there

[trading wine for beer]

FYI I was not supporting pushing the blog....please read the rest (actually I just deleted it because I don't want anyone else taking it out of context). I would appreciate it if you unquoted my message because taken out of context like that it misses my point. My point is only that the very words that have come out Obama's mouth and his very own actions show me what Obama feels about the Jewish community and what his positions on Israel are. He does not support Israel.

I care less about this one blog but I do care about the big supporters (not the one person here or there) Obama may have and the causes they represent. Keep in mind Obama was endorsed by Hamas.

Sorry Rigel, I wasn't singling you out, I agree with the rest of what you wrote.... There are lots of posts above that speak to using this blog example as a way to show what kind of people BO attracts and that it could be used to bring him down. You're message was just the last one I read before I posted and I was only responding to the "theme" of this thread. I think more powerful examples to show his thoughts/attitudes to any particular topic is to send out actual documented quotes and examples from him, from his direct associations, etc...

[dontrustobama]

yup they removed it. But i have hard copies of everything that the guy has ever written on Obamas web site and allot of it was up there for A LONG LONG TIME for which there is NO EXCUSE.

[MaryKay]

Not really... It says something about who some of his supporters are. And, I'm totally not defending BO in my "caution"... I'm saying that this is an example that is not helpful to exposing Obama. Regardless of if he subscribes to these ideals and such, posts to his blog by random "supporters" will not sway anyone away from him. Now, if it is one of his advisors or campaign staff, that'd be a little different. I think that if we go all APB on anything and everything random BO supporters say, it makes us look reactive and like a bunch of chickens running around yelling about the sky falling.

Besides, some very awesome people I know are huge BO supporters. They have excellent values and are very socially conscious and are just all around great people. This, alone, would make me think BO must be the cats meow... but... I don't think that he is. My point is, you can't say "look what kind of supporters he draws" without seeing people you love and respect in that list. I'm sure Hillary has supporters that we wouldn't want people to hold against her.

Again, not sticking up for BO... rather, sticking up for us (Hillary supporters)... as, pushing these types of examples will just make us look desperate.

Also, y'all need to look at the date of the blog post before you send out emails to other people and major MSM folk telling them it's been up since April. The post just went up last night (according to the date of the post), not in April. People will see the date first. This will kill your credibility before they even read the hate filled message.


I get your point. You're right in everything you say. It didn't come from the candidate and it's not representative of ALL Obama supporters. My issue is, many groups of Obama supporters that I've met (I used to be one, remember) seem to be set on dividing this party, and Hillary supporters the ones who are getting all the blame in the media because we supported a candidate who wanted to let the primary process simply play out so everyone could vote. I know not ALL Obama supporters are like this, but it's important for them to stop this kind of crap, too if we are truly to come together. Responsibility goes both ways.

If I were Obama, I wouldn not even allow a "Socialists for Obama" to be a group on my website. I would send messages to those individuals and say, "Look, folks, we appreciate your support for the candidate, and we do not believe in censorship, but realize Senator Obama is running for president and we are asking others to be sensitive about social and racial issues, then we need to walk to talk." To me, that would show real leadership.

I think any communications that come out on any official website needs to be moderated and should represent the views of the candidate. If those bloggers can't play nice, they need to have their posting privileges revoked and their threads removed. Murray slaps our hands sometimes, and it makes us think about how we sound.

If you know Obama supporters, maybe you could contact them and ask them to post something on the site as to why these types of threads are offensive and can be construed as representative of the candidate, especially in light of some of Obama's own writings. Lord knows I tried to no avail when the grassroots groups down here were sending out petitions to not seat the Florida delegates. I said, "Think about what you're saying here," and I got lambasted.

Point being: If Obama hadn't made some of these types of comments himself, or comments leading people to believe he holds these views, and if he removed these posts quickly, people would not be so sensitive when his supporters make posts like this, but would more likely chalk it up to a few racist loons who just happen to support him. Because he has made comments, it fuels the fire and that's what we're trying to impress on you and others. We are not saying he holds these particular views, but Obama's supporters are becoming his own worst enemy. Hillary supporters go overboard sometimes, too, but I find that most Hillary supporters error on the side of commonly held American principles and that usually comes across as less offensive. Do you see where I'm going with this?

[dontrustobama]

this is everything else that the guy wrote in many months. Someone make copies besides me if its still up. Gotta go read all of this be back later with the results.

[dontrustobama]

At 11 PM i will be sending copies of the site to everyone that wants copies since they have taken it down

[mukunda22]

BO's website represents the man, even though he may not exactly endorse what this person is saying.

He is responsible for its content.

Good work!!

We are the official "Obama Watch" group!!

[CT-Hilltopper]

I'm sending Lieberman a link to the page, unfortunately, through his web page, you can't send attachments. I sent an excerpt. Hopefully he will contact me for an attachment in case they take the page down. If he does, I will post here and someone can send me the attachments. I'm not computer savvy at all. I couldn't send many excertps either. They like small e-mails. I mentioned his picture was on there twice.

[trading wine for beer]

He IS RESPONSIBLE for what is on his website. If Hillary had trash like that on hers it would be jumped on right away. I made a copy and sent it to McCain's blog, Lieberman, and fox news.

Hillary did used to have a blog very similar to Obama's "free for all" blog... and some of the posters on Hillary's site did indeed post overt racist things and such, and they weren't removed in a very timely manner, if at all.

However, Hillary's people realized that they couldn't control the traffic on the blog, the infestation of the Obots and the uncalled for racism that was occurring... so they disabled it completely. I think that was a very smart move on their part. That way, they aren't sponsoring a voice to hateful rhetoric.

[philmwri]

I will make sure Debbie Schultz a jewish congresswoman here in Florida sees this.I will tell the people at synagogues here in Florida.Jews are mostly Democratic and many older jews won't think twice about voting for McCain.

[diane]

It's not suprising that some BO supporters will espouse views he's associated himself with for over twenty years. He hates America, women, gays, the elderly, Italians, people of faith in non-muslim religions, so why not Jewish people too? Welcome to the Obama World of Unity.

For us to be taken seriously though, it's only things Obama and his wife have said and done that mean anything. So copying what some so-called supporter did online at his webiste makes us look ridiculous. They're only going to counter saying perhaps it was a Hillary supporter in disguise, the internet is a big place, blah blah blah... so it doesn't put us in a good light to be taken seriously by submitting things that weren't said or done by Obama or his wife themselves.

[CGP]

Hillary did used to have a blog very similar to Obama's "free for all" blog... and some of the posters on Hillary's site did indeed post overt racist things and such, and they weren't removed in a very timely manner, if at all.

However, Hillary's people realized that they couldn't control the traffic on the blog, the infestation of the Obots and the uncalled for racism that was occurring... so they disabled it completely. I think that was a very smart move on their part. That way, they aren't sponsoring a voice to hateful rhetoric.

And it's important to note that most, if not all, of any offensive material placed on her site was done so by OBAMA SUPPORTERS pretending to be Hillary supporters. They have done this time and time again in an attempt to smear Hillary Clinton supporters as "racist". Following the lead of their "leader"...:rolleyes:

[MaryKay]

And it's important to note that most, if not all, of any offensive material placed on her site was done so by OBAMA SUPPORTERS pretending to be Hillary supporters. They have done this time and time again in an attempt to smear Hillary Clinton supporters as "racist". Following the lead of their "leader"...:rolleyes:

Very good point, Murray, and remember how we used to police that site all the time when we all posted on it and if one of our regulars got out of line, we would caution them strongly. Shutting it down for a while was a very good thing.

There was one young gal who used to post on Hillary's site all the time and I told her I had voted for Obama. I got her to admit she was being paid to be an "exterminator," as she called it. Very scary, stuff.

By the way, folks.... Obama's site did take that thread down already. I guess they got the message. That's actually a good thing.

[dontrustobama]

It's not suprising that some BO supporters will espouse views he's associated himself with for over twenty years. He hates America, women, gays, the elderly, Italians, people of faith in non-muslim religions, so why not Jewish people too? Welcome to the Obama World of Unity.

For us to be taken seriously though, it's only things Obama and his wife have said and done that mean anything. So copying what some so-called supporter did online at his webiste makes us look ridiculous. They're only going to counter saying perhaps it was a Hillary supporter in disguise, the internet is a big place, blah blah blah... so it doesn't put us in a good light to be taken seriously by submitting things that weren't said or done by Obama or his wife themselves.

The person who wrote this stuff has been writing on Obamas site since february and nothing till now has ever been taken down including the statement that and i quote "Hillary Clinton and her anti-muslim fascism cannot be president of United States" so if you want to fight for Obama don't do it here. Obama has been supporting and disseminating this persons writings since February!

[nette60]

Not really... It says something about who some of his supporters are. And, I'm totally not defending BO in my "caution"... I'm saying that this is an example that is not helpful to exposing Obama. Regardless of if he subscribes to these ideals and such, posts to his blog by random "supporters" will not sway anyone away from him. Now, if it is one of his advisors or campaign staff, that'd be a little different. I think that if we go all APB on anything and everything random BO supporters say, it makes us look reactive and like a bunch of chickens running around yelling about the sky falling.

Besides, some very awesome people I know are huge BO supporters. They have excellent values and are very socially conscious and are just all around great people. This, alone, would make me think BO must be the cats meow... but... I don't think that he is. My point is, you can't say "look what kind of supporters he draws" without seeing people you love and respect in that list. I'm sure Hillary has supporters that we wouldn't want people to hold against her.

Again, not sticking up for BO... rather, sticking up for us (Hillary supporters)... as, pushing these types of examples will just make us look desperate.

Also, y'all need to look at the date of the blog post before you send out emails to other people and major MSM folk telling them it's been up since April. The post just went up last night (according to the date of the post), not in April. People will see the date first. This will kill your credibility before they even read the hate filled message.

Israel and the US have a very special relationship..it is important if we have a leader that doesn't think the same.

[dontrustobama]

Has been writing on Obamas site since February! here check it out...
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz
He has been writing inflamitory things since then and the page above shows Obamas support for statements like "Hillary Clinton and her anti-muslim fascism cannot be president of United States" SINCE FEBRUARY!!!! They have continued to allow him to post full well knowing he is being devisive and controvercial. Obama bears the responsibility for what is posted.

[ZY123]

Sorry Rigel, I wasn't singling you out, I agree with the rest of what you wrote.... There are lots of posts above that speak to using this blog example as a way to show what kind of people BO attracts and that it could be used to bring him down. You're message was just the last one I read before I posted and I was only responding to the "theme" of this thread. I think more powerful examples to show his thoughts/attitudes to any particular topic is to send out actual documented quotes and examples from him, from his direct associations, etc...

no problem....I just don't want the real message lost and that message is Obama's own actions and words that show his lack of support for Israel and the Jewish community. That's the important point here, not the blog. He's trying to backtrack on all that now (at the same time trying not to make his other supporters angry - he doesn't realize by doing this he'll just make both sides pissed); of course the smart voter won't fall for any of it.

[dontrustobama]

The page Juan Carlos writes on has been pushing this statement with the ok of the Obama campaign since February;
"This blog is for those interested in learning how can we change this country from the current capitalist unfair system, into a real socialist, democratic system for all"
SOCIALIST?????!!!!! ARE YOU NUTS
Just like the old "russia" otherwise known as the "United Soviet Socialist Republic" SOCIALIST????????
NOT IN MY LIFETIME I WILL DIE FIGHTING THAT WITH A SMILE ON MY FACE!!!! But its right there in black and white still posted and desseminated by the Obama campaign!!!!!!

[Kaylin]

I just did some searches and don't worry, the Clinton campaign and Clinton supporters will not be blamed for the "Socialists for Obama" blog on the Obama site.

Israpundit.com, which looks like an e-zine, was on to this blog back in March. Someone named Bill Levinson writes a fairly detailed article about it.

actually, Israpundit.com seems like a pretty interesting site. there is also coverage on Obama's AIPAC speech and discussion of his seemingly contradictory statements afterward.

[mjoynaples]

I didn't get to see it but it led me to a BO page from his website and said there was an "error in link"? hopefully you were able to retrieve and save it before lost completely!

Wicked stuff sounds like and the pdf file whoa!

[AdrienneJ]

Rezkowatch has picked this up.


(June 8, 2008)"Hatemongers for Obama, or Obama's anti-Jew Problem"

http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com


I'm going to post this on a separate thread because of the article. Moderators can merge if they see fit.

[xfiles]

It's been taken down. Did anyone do a screen shot? If so, please post it here. Thanks!

[Karen Keefe]

this and other BO stuff daily? I vote we do NOT send it to Hillary--she must keep her hands clean and besides, she already knows it. Send it to supers, Senators of all faiths, media, Jewish organizations, etc.

BO cult cannot stop their hate. Our goal is to save our screen shots of their site immediately before they scrub it. I just clicked on the link and the main page is blank save for the BO logo.

Also, someone on this forum said one could do some digging and resurrect all scrubbed info and images. Anybody here want to take that job. No worries if trolls are readiing this--they can't contain their negativity and will keep handing us more info.

We do need BO blog watchdogs to copy info. Murray and moderators will know what to do with it re: this forum. Individuals will know what to do with it as it befits their conscience. BO created this monster of diviseness--that is his agitator/progaganda early training coming out. Now not even he can control it. We may have to let it play out as Hillary wanted the primaries to, to show her electability. BO's site attracting ugliness in all forms may need to play out, with our help, to show who he really is and how dangerous he and cohorts are to our party and our country.

[ScottVA]

People must read this. I cannot believe that Obama, while he personally didnt post this, is allowing this on his official web site. He stands on stage saying he is a friend of the jewish community and then allows his web site to be used for this: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarloscruz/gG5BSr

OF COURSE he's ALLOWING it! LOOK at ALOT of his campaign advisors........they either belong to NATION OF ISLAM or they are ANTI ISRAEL people from Carters old administration...... PEOPLE I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR MONTHS NOW! JEWS BEWARE! HELL WHITE PEOPLE BEWARE.......LOL Nation of Islam doesn't like either.... we're the blame for everything on the planet! LOL

[Arctic907]

The site has been scrubbed already. FYI, I saved it on my hard drive.

[Area504]

Whatever it was, it's gone.

[trading wine for beer]

I get your point. You're right in everything you say. It didn't come from the candidate and it's not representative of ALL Obama supporters. My issue is, many groups of Obama supporters that I've met (I used to be one, remember) seem to be set on dividing this party, and Hillary supporters the ones who are getting all the blame in the media because we supported a candidate who wanted to let the primary process simply play out so everyone could vote. I know not ALL Obama supporters are like this, but it's important for them to stop this kind of crap, too if we are truly to come together. Responsibility goes both ways.

If I were Obama, I wouldn not even allow a "Socialists for Obama" to be a group on my website. I would send messages to those individuals and say, "Look, folks, we appreciate your support for the candidate, and we do not believe in censorship, but realize Senator Obama is running for president and we are asking others to be sensitive about social and racial issues, then we need to walk to talk." To me, that would show real leadership.

I think any communications that come out on any official website needs to be moderated and should represent the views of the candidate. If those bloggers can't play nice, they need to have their posting privileges revoked and their threads removed. Murray slaps our hands sometimes, and it makes us think about how we sound.

If you know Obama supporters, maybe you could contact them and ask them to post something on the site as to why these types of threads are offensive and can be construed as representative of the candidate, especially in light of some of Obama's own writings. Lord knows I tried to no avail when the grassroots groups down here were sending out petitions to not seat the Florida delegates. I said, "Think about what you're saying here," and I got lambasted.

Point being: If Obama hadn't made some of these types of comments himself, or comments leading people to believe he holds these views, and if he removed these posts quickly, people would not be so sensitive when his supporters make posts like this, but would more likely chalk it up to a few racist loons who just happen to support him. Because he has made comments, it fuels the fire and that's what we're trying to impress on you and others. We are not saying he holds these particular views, but Obama's supporters are becoming his own worst enemy. Hillary supporters go overboard sometimes, too, but I find that most Hillary supporters error on the side of commonly held American principles and that usually comes across as less offensive. Do you see where I'm going with this?


Great elaboration MaryKay... great points.

[MaryKay]

The page Juan Carlos writes on has been pushing this statement with the ok of the Obama campaign since February;
"This blog is for those interested in learning how can we change this country from the current capitalist unfair system, into a real socialist, democratic system for all"
SOCIALIST?????!!!!! ARE YOU NUTS
Just like the old "russia" otherwise known as the "United Soviet Socialist Republic" SOCIALIST????????
NOT IN MY LIFETIME I WILL DIE FIGHTING THAT WITH A SMILE ON MY FACE!!!! But its right there in black and white still posted and desseminated by the Obama campaign!!!!!!

I'm Ukrainian and Slovak. I've written about my great grandfather before but he was imprisoned in a Bolshevik work camp because he would and could not fight for them (bad knee and bad attitude -- to them -- I guess). :) He escaped by hiding in a coal tower and when the train came by, they were released with the coal into the coal car and they got off the train and made their way home. He didn't even know he had a son until my grandfather met him at the door. My great grandfather made his way to France, got passage on a ship and then sent for his family once he made enough money fixing people's shoes on the streets of NYC. Great American story and you can see why I'm really offended by anything Socialist or communist. But Hillary is for socialized medicine... Well, we all make exceptions for the good of our community and nation, but like she said on O'Reilly, healthcare for all is an American principle. There's a big difference.

I think a big part of the problem is a lot of the young people who post on here -- no offense, have any real concept of the cold war or why so many of our parents and grandparents came to US to escape all of that.

[Tea toaD]

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30243_Obama_Campaign_Throws_Antisemitic_Blog_Down_ the_Memory_Hole#rss

This is regarding Obama's site taking this stuff off their site.

[Michael White]

http://www.arkansas103.com/generator/files/flip%20flops.jpg

BHO FOOTWEAR

[Christines]

It is gone!

[RAFREE]

Google cache anyone? It will still be on the cache if anybody can get that to come up, but it won't stay for long. Oh and the Wayback Machine helps sometimes with these "deleted" items.

[Dendy]

You can see the first 2 screen shots here:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15655

[rob3gdd]

what happened. its gone. someone removed it. hope someone has a copy of the text. does anyone? please let me know

[rob3gdd]

You can see the first 2 screen shots here:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15655

Thanks for the proof. we need to send this to Hannity because NBC nor CNN will pick it up

[Michael White]

If I was a homeless person I would go on there and write some of the things some of us have thought and wait for them to track me down to enjoy the free meals and lodging. If I was rich I would write something inflamatory and exercise my right to free speech. If I lost and was fined, $100,000 it wouldn't pay for half of the contempt I have for BHO.

[Laura Cereta]

Send it to Joe Lieberman and all the members of congress who are Jewish. time for a change - a real change to get rid of Obama now.

Excellent work, Annie!! :D

[Laura Cereta]

Now where do we get those e-mail addresses, or even know which members of Congress are Jewish?

[Linda C]

This isn't the first time offensive things have been put on Obama's webs site. The little disclaimer at the bottom doesn't help. Remember the slave shackle one?
Who is monitoring hisBlog...is the same people who think the Great Lakes are in Oregon?

I have never seen anything like this on Hillary Clinton's web site.

[ALL4HILLARY]

People must read this. I cannot believe that Obama, while he personally didnt post this, is allowing this on his official web site. He stands on stage saying he is a friend of the jewish community and then allows his web site to be used for this: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarloscruz/gG5BSr

Link did not work for me

[blueskygal]

yup they removed it. But i have hard copies of everything that the guy has ever written on Obamas web site and allot of it was up there for A LONG LONG TIME for which there is NO EXCUSE.

i copied that post as well. send yours to lieberman, mccain, and to fox news.

we need to get this anti-semitic stuff out of the closet.

it's outrageous!

[Latina4Hillary]

The link takes you to the Obamabot blog.

[blueskygal]

You can see the first 2 screen shots here:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15655

C H E C K M A T E !

[Suzan]

Respectfully, I don't agree with whoever said we look ridiculous for sending this information to the media. Obama has a history of suspicious and unsavory associations and this definitely belongs on that long list. These deranged people are drawn to him. They see him as the realization of their dreams, and those dreams are hate-filled and terrifying. This is just one of many sinister groups that have publicly endorsed him. Why is that happening? What do they see in Obama? What do they know that the media refuses to look at?

If nothing else, this is guilt by association, which is very powerful, as we know ... and some of the links to him are much more than just association. The media has time on their hands now. They can't bash Hillary. They actually have to be respectful of her now, which is probably killing them, lol. Let's give them some news!

[JamieKuuipo]

He IS RESPONSIBLE for what is on his website. If Hillary had trash like that on hers it would be jumped on right away. I made a copy and sent it to McCain's blog, Lieberman, and fox news.

RIGHT ON YOUR GOOD

[dontrustobama]

I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I DO IN FACT HAVE HARD COPIES OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS POSTED AND DISSEMINATED BY THE OBAMA OFFICIAL WEB SITE SINCE FEBRUARY. THEY REMOVED ALOT OF IT BUT NOT ALL. HERE IS WHAT IS STILL UP ON THE SITE.

"WE MUST BREAK OUR SATANIC MATRIMONY WITH ISRAEL ELITES AND LOBBIES. THIS COUNTRY CANNOT KEEP ON WAGING WARS ON BEHALF OF ISRAEL" page 24- an open letter to Barack Obama

The next item you must read in total. I will post a couple of statements from it but you've got to read the entire thing.

THE ISRAELI CONNECTION TO 9/11- PAGE 25 posted may 26 removed 6-8-08
U.S INVESTIGATORS AND THE CONTROLLED MEDIA HAVE IGNORED A PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE POINTING TO ISRAEL'S INTELLIGENCE AGENCY , THE MOSSAD , BEING INVOLVED IN THE TERROR ATTACKS OF 9/11
FROM THE VERY MORNING AIRCRAFT SMASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND THE PENTAGON , NEWS REPORTS HAVE INDICATED ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE BEING INVOLVED IN THE EVENTS OF 9/11 AND THE PLANTING OF FALSE FLAGS TO BLAME ARAB TERRORISTS AND MOLD PUBLIC OPINION TO SUPPORT THE PRE-PLANNED "WAR ON TERROR"
to anyone interested i will be scanning all of the pages and posting them on the web so that you can read/download. will be done sometime around 9am i am guessing .

PAGE 28- POSTED MAY 24TH- STILL POSTED AT- http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz

"Hillary Clinton is evil, she is wishing for the death of Obama"

"There she suggested that some is likely to step up to the plate and assassinate Barack Obama in the waning moments of the California primary, just as Bobby Kennedy was forty years go almost to the day. The wish is mother to the deed"
SURE LETS ALL COME TOGEATHER BARACK!!!! THERES MORE...
"Hilary’s populism has been skin-deep in the literal sense of the term. It’s not been about rich developers, or predatory sub-prime loans. It’s only about the color of Obama’s skin, which Mrs Clinton opines is unsuitable in tint."
AND HERE'S SOME BS ABOUT MCCAIN
"As he runs against an elderly, unstable Republican candidate whose own mottled epidermis raises constant uneasy questions about possible battles with cancer "

HEY KENTUCKY HERES WHAT OBAMA IS ALLOWING TO BE DISSEMINATED THROUGH HIS SITE ABOUT YOU!
"zionists own TV and press, they must have done a good job in Kentucky tricking all those dumb white Mcworkers of Kentucky into thinking that Hillary is a socialist, hahaha, she is a capitalist in favor of NAFTA and zero food stamps"
THIS WAS POSTED MAY 20TH AND IS STILL POSTED HERE>
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz

HERES MORE FOLKS
"SOCIALIST LINKS TO COMBAT THE HILLARY RIGHT-WING MACHINE" POSTED MARCH 12TH STILL POSTED HERE>http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz
SOCIALIST???? YOU MEAN LIKE THE UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLIC?
THATS EXCATLY WHAT IT MEANS . HERE ARE A FEW OF THE SITES BEING DISSEMINATED THROUGH HIS "OFFICIAL SITE"!
http://www.marxist.com/
http://www.marxists.org
http://www.socialistworker.org
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/
http://www.rebelion.org/
http://leninology.blogspot.com/

THERE'S MORE FOLKS
"Hillary Clinton and her anti-muslim fascism cannot be president of United States" POSTED MARCH 8TH STILL POSTED HERE>
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz
AND THIS
USA: The War, the Economy & the Elections By US Socialist Appeal Editorial Board http://www.marxist.com/usa/war-economy-elections.htm
POSTED MARCH 6TH AND STILL POSTED
AND LOOK AT THIS
"ANTI-COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA
The U.S. is also using the current situation to blast out lies about communism—that communism is “totalitarian control” over people. This caricature has nothing to do with real communism, which is about the proletariat taking hold of and consciously transforming society to abolish all classes and class distinctions and to emancipate all of humanity."
POSTED MARCH 4TH AND STILL POSTED HERE>
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz
AND THIS
Corporate Zionist Hillary Clinton is a liar
POSTED MARCH 1ST STILL POSTED HERE>
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz
AND THIS
"Can we change this system with elections? Can we vote for socialists into Congress and the White House and they'll pass socialist laws for us? Can we get from capitalism to socialism in gradual increments?"
POSTED FEB 29TH STILL POSTED HERE>
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/juancarloscruz

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THRUOUT ALL OF THIS THERE ARE LINKS TO "Report Objectionable Content " AND ALL BUT ONE THING I HAVE POSTED HERE IS STILL THERE RIGHT NOW!!!! THESE ARE THE PEOPLE PUSHING OBAMA INTO THE WHITE HOUSE FOLKS!!!!
ON THE VERY TOP OF THE PAGE THIS IS WHAT IS SAID
"Socialists for Obama
This blog is for those interested in learning how can we change this country from the current capitalist unfair system, into a real socialist, democratic system for all. This capitalist system of Bush and his cronies only benefit the upper classes. USA needs a 21st Century Socialist, Democratic and Participative system for the workers and people of this country, without fascism, without wars, but with peace, equality, socialism and love"

SOCIALISTS!!!! NOT IN MY COUNTRY NOT IN MY LIFETIME FOLKS. WE HAVE SEEN WHAT SOCIALISM BECOMES IN OTHER COUNTRIES. NO WAY!!!!!!

FOR ALL WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT IS POSTED JUST CLICK ON THE LINKS AND SCROLL DOWN IT'S ALL THERE UNLESS I HAVE STATED THAT IT WAS REMOVED. FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WERE REMOVED I WILL BE SCANNING COPIES AND POSTING THEM SOMEWHERE ON THE WEB, NOT SURE WHERE YET, BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE WHAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE TRYING TO SHOVE DOWN OUR THROATS. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT OBAMA MUST THINK THAT SOME OF THIS IS "OK" TO DISSEMINATE. AND REMEMBER THAT ALL OF THIS INFO THAT IS STILL POSTED WAS POSTED BY A MAN THAT POSTED THIS "now removed"
"Americans must know how extreemly powerfull the jewish lobby is and how it operates to undermine Americas interests both at home and abroad. At home by corrupting Americas political system and abroad by dictating American foreign policyagainst Americas best interests"
"money corrupts and jewish money corrupts the American political system absolutely"
" jewish lobbies utilize the immense wealth of jewry to bribe U.S. politicians"
currently the AJC (American Jewish Congress) works with pandering Congressmen and "bought" Senators like Senator Jeff Bingaman to push through Bills with Zionist agendas" AND THERES ALOT MORE FOLKS. I HOPE YOU, LIKE I, WILL NEVER ALLOW OBAMA TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PLEASE POST THIS EVERYWHERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE!!!!!!

[braane]

It is taken down now. It really doesn't chock me though.

[dontrustobama]

Obama Keeps Talking About change I Think We Know What Kind Of Change He Wants Now Folks! Hate The Jews And Make This Country Socialist!!! We Have Seen How Socialism Morphs Into Communism Thruout The World Folks. Socialism Doesn't Work. The World Has Shown Us That For A Fact. Nowhere In The World Has Socialism Worked As It Is Supposed To And Obamas Campaign , While I Will Admit, Took Down Everything That Expressly Used The Word "jew" They Purposly Left Everything About Socialism!!!!?????
Obama Can Kiss My A$$. Not Only Will I Not Vote For Him I Will Never Stand For Him Being President Of My Country!!!!!

[braane]

You can see the first 2 screen shots here:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15655

Now if thats not change we can believe in, than what is?

[Annie]

Why in the world would you promote such hate, people this not good. I am passing the links along to others.

I LOVE YOUR EMBLEM....Make it a sticker and you could sell it.... outrageous and wonderful!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dendy
You can see the first 2 screen shots here:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/d...ad.php?t=15655

Meantime that page should be sent to ISRAEL and the Jewish League.

[sisterrosetta]

CAMPAIGN 2008
His Jewish ‘Problem’: A Myth?

The candidate sought to reassure the crowd at AIPAC last week
By Mark Hosenball, Jake Sherman and Richard Wolffe | NEWSWEEK
Jun 16, 2008 Issue

http://www.newsweek.com/id/140476

EXCERPT

Obama has trailed Clinton among Jewish voters in polling matchups against John McCain (though both beat him soundly). But Obama has many high-profile Jewish fund-raisers, and aides claim his support among Jews will equal or surpass John Kerry's 75 percent in 2004. McCain has enlisted high-profile help of his own to help win Jewish votes: Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman, a self-described "independent Democrat" who has criticized Obama's leadership qualities, has agreed to head up a booster group called Citizens for McCain. In a brief but animated Senate floor confrontation last week, according to a campaign aide who asked for anonymity when talking about private discussions, Obama told Lieberman he was surprised by Lieberman's personal attacks and his half-hearted denials of the false rumors that Obama is a Muslim. (The aide says Lieberman was "strangely muted" during the exchange; a Lieberman spokesman says the chat was "private and friendly.") McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker says Lieberman "played a key role in reaching out to the Jewish community in the primary … and you can expect that will continue."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/What_that_was_about.html

Obama seems to be zeroing in on these whispers -- what he called "cultural issues" -- as opposed to Iran policy or other elements of a traditional right/left divide as the central threat to his candidacy.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/06/obamaniacs_fret.html

Obamaniacs Fret about the Jewish Lobby
Obama's website sure requires a lot of maintenance. Every time someone who hasn't drunk the Kool-Aid sees what they've got up there, they have to take it down. A screen capture of the latest, via Michelle Malkin:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/08/creepy-antisemitism-caught-on-the-mybarackobama-site-and-quickly-scrubbed/

Concern about the nefarious "Jewish lobby" is a preoccupation among Obamaniacs. Meanwhile, Obama has been trying to convince Jews that he doesn't hate their guts like other black supremacists — with predictable help from the leftist media. Not all Jews are so slavishly devoted to moonbattery as to believe him.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30245_At_the_Official_Obama_Site-_The_Israeli_Connection_to_9-11

At the Official Obama Site: 'The Israeli Connection to 9/11'
Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 1:55:40 pm PST
Looks like in their rush to delete the antisemitic post I wrote about earlier, the administrators at my.barackobama.com missed something: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Socialists for Obama: The Israeli Connection to 9/11.

[Laura Cereta]

This stuff is getting sent to the media (and Joe Leiberman) as of NOW!

[Lynne]

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30243_Obama_Campaign_Throws_Antisemitic_Blog_Down_ the_Memory_Hole#rss

This is regarding Obama's site taking this stuff off their site.

I wonder how many positive Hillary sites have been erased by Obama. Maybe we should do the same.