View Full Version : (June 12, 2008): "Obama Moves DNC Headquarters to Chicago!" (Politico) - from bad to worse...
SusanfromPA
06-12-2008, 02:52 PM
He is not even the official nominee!
We need to send this to the media! This is too much!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html
Elijah4Hillary
06-12-2008, 03:03 PM
OK, isn't the DNC supposed to be an independent body? Hopefully this will cause more defections from the Democratic Party. Obama the dictator.
Sandy in PA
06-12-2008, 03:06 PM
There's a clickable obama ad on that page - have at it!
Tea toaD
06-12-2008, 03:07 PM
Sure, move it to Chicago so Chicago Style Politics can thrive to an even higher level....a national level. Coming attractions of his administration. I wish I could move out of this country.
The song by the Stones comes to mind: Under My Thumb.
joeysky18
06-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Oh, the whole thing is turning into one heck of a comedy show. MOBO, DNC, OBots, swoon...
Eddie3dfx
06-12-2008, 03:11 PM
Hmm maybe I can get a job there and turn things inside out :)
Patricia GA
06-12-2008, 03:14 PM
Has anything like this done in recent years? I see a dark cloud covering the land and a storm...take over storm is brewing. Democracy will be smothered.
SusanfromPA
06-12-2008, 03:22 PM
Has anything like this done in recent years? I see a dark cloud covering the land and a storm...take over storm is brewing. Democracy will be smothered.
I feel like we are under a very dark cloud. The cries of racism and "not a muslim" from the Obama camp are simply distractions to keep us off the real trail of deceit.
How long until Pelosi and Dean - once the instigators become the hostages?
thebword
06-12-2008, 03:23 PM
There's a clickable obama ad on that page - have at it!
If you time the clicks right, you can Obama say Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi,Hi ;):D;):D
ClintonDems
06-12-2008, 03:29 PM
He is not even the official nominee!
We need to send this to the media! This is too much!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html
I find this extremely alarming. :eek:
Vici57
06-12-2008, 03:37 PM
I am going to write my super delegates and tell them to wake up to his radical ideas. This is just the beginning and they had better start looking into his background. He is not what he wants everyone to think.
Alex01
06-12-2008, 03:38 PM
The move reflects Obama's desire to maintain an unusually streamlined campaign, as well as his swift and complete takeover of a Democratic Party that isn't always known for its unity.
You mean Axelrod of Evil's desire. Obama doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
No wonder Brazile Nut always has that shit-eating grin on her face!
Don't worry. It won't be in Chicago for long.:cool:
hillary1
06-12-2008, 03:42 PM
He is not even the official nominee!
We need to send this to the media! This is too much!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html
don't you see, he needs to get back to his church and the racist hate of america and whites, we all know we all FEEL BETTER WHEN WE ARE IN OUR OWN HOMES
DRAFT HILLARY IN DENVER AT THE CONVENTION - ROLL CALL
Mrsawd
06-12-2008, 03:43 PM
more :eek:corruption ! DNC needs removed or some thing ! Heads all checked out by mental health and Medical checks for Drugs usage !
Drugs or mentally unstable has to be the excuses!
Brooke
06-12-2008, 03:47 PM
As the Church Lady would say: Well isn't that special?
foreigner4hillary
06-12-2008, 03:49 PM
And so it begins...
yaelbelle
06-12-2008, 03:50 PM
This is so absolutely insane and absurd, I thought it was a joke!!! I had to read all the replies before it sunk it that it is the truth...
This is not a Democratic Party. It's DemsCrackpot Party!
Bad Kitty
06-12-2008, 03:52 PM
There's a clickable obama ad on that page - have at it!
done. :D
ScottVA
06-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Oh, the whole thing is turning into one heck of a comedy show. MOBO, DNC, OBots, swoon...
LOL I agree it is all becoming so comical..... I don't believe it because a National Party base must stay in DC. I think it's all just more spin!
samkm
06-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Call as well as write to super delegates. Today is the day to call.
Bacio83
06-12-2008, 03:54 PM
Hmm maybe I can get a job there and turn things inside out :)
Doooo it! :)
Next he's going to move the White House to Chicago. LOL what's next?
Ijane
06-12-2008, 03:56 PM
from the article:
The move may also save the campaign money, as the Obama campaign can use DNC salaries and staff to pay for elements of its organizing campaign and avoid some of the duplication that has often dogged presidential efforts.
This idea might save the obama campaign money but how much is it going to cost the DNC?
Brooke
06-12-2008, 04:00 PM
This is so absolutely insane and absurd, I thought it was a joke!!! I had to read all the replies before it sunk it that it is the truth...
This is not a Democratic Party. It's DemsCrackpot Party!
LOL!!!! Nice!! DemsCrackpot Party.
Maybe they'll have Wright Sermons on Sundays and bomb making strategy sessions with Ayers at night.
And don't forget to bring the cigerrettes and cocaine.
Catherine
06-12-2008, 04:00 PM
I copied the following from the posts regarding the blog.
I also heard they plan to save money in other ways. There?s a rumor circulating that team Obama and Howard Dean are negotiating the cancellation of the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver. The logic makes sense. Since the nominee has already been selected, the party can cancel the expensive 4 day event and put the budgeted monies towards the fall campaign. As part of the deal, all delegates and State funded delegations must deposit their budgeted cost of plane fare and hotel rooms into the Obama for America account. Deposits must be made before September 1, 2008. The party will lose a deposit placed with the Denver convention authority. Senator Obama is well aware that the people need to see and hear him formally accept the nomination therefore a prime time event is to be scheduled on the evening of what would have been the final day of the convention. This event, with a series of speeches leading up to the big moment, will be held at Chicago?s very own Soldiers Field. It is expected that close to 100,000 adoring fans will be present to hear him accept the nomination of the Democratic Party and to say those awe inspiring words, ?I love you back?. Republican Party officials are quite upset that the Democrats have found a way to save millions of dollars and still hold a unifying event. http://www.partizane.com/?p=364
That really would be the nail in the coffin for the Democratic Party.
Also, the actual plans are scary enough (even if the above is just a rumor). Imagine congressional candidates in conservative districts having to go "hat in hand" to the Obama controlled Democratic Party?
How do you spell R-E-V-O-L-T?
OMG, there have been many disturbing events during the past 6 months of this campaign/election. This latest fiasco - moving big chunks of the DNC to Chicago land - is right up there in the "WTF?" category. :eek:
Rezko, Obama, Chicago, DNC. Anyone else smell TROUBLE?
Mrs L
06-12-2008, 04:10 PM
I am worried and so scared about the way our Political Party has been taken over and is being run without us. So scary
I am so afraid our movement is not big enough to fight these organized criminals.
We need some TV ads, we need a movement bigger than ours, someone who can fight this evil crooked Democratic Party, a leader. The whole country is not on the Internet, they stay home and watch CNN and MSNBC.
They don't even seem worried about defections or our votes, they have it already fixed just like the nomination.
I am so worried, scared and upset.
neophyter
06-12-2008, 04:12 PM
:D:D:D:D
Ewwww..... that's so much fun clicking on the obamanation signs. Trick is to close the page before his drivel starts. :D:D:D:D
neophyter
06-12-2008, 04:14 PM
I am worried and so scared about the way our Political Party has been taken over and is being run without us. So scary
I am so afraid our movement is not big enough to fight these organized criminals.
We need some TV ads, we need a movement bigger than ours, someone who can fight this evil crooked Democratic Party, a leader. The whole country is not on the Internet, they stay home and watch CNN and MSNBC.
They don't even seem worried about defections or our votes, they have it already fixed just like the nomination.
I am so worried, scared and upset.
That's how they want you to feel. That's how they tried to force Hillary out of the race. You have a vote. That is powerful. If you, and the rest of the people, use that vote against him, he will be defeated.
Then, we will have to figure out how to get our Party back. But first, the vote!
ScottVA
06-12-2008, 04:16 PM
I am worried and so scared about the way our Political Party has been taken over and is being run without us. So scary
I am so afraid our movement is not big enough to fight these organized criminals.
We need some TV ads, we need a movement bigger than ours, someone who can fight this evil crooked Democratic Party, a leader. The whole country is not on the Internet, they stay home and watch CNN and MSNBC.
They don't even seem worried about defections or our votes, they have it already fixed just like the nomination.
I am so worried, scared and upset.
I'm totally shocked a lawsuit against the DNC hasn't been launched yet!
WVIndie
06-12-2008, 04:18 PM
I copied the following from the posts regarding the blog.
I also heard they plan to save money in other ways. There?s a rumor circulating that team Obama and Howard Dean are negotiating the cancellation of the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver. The logic makes sense. Since the nominee has already been selected, the party can cancel the expensive 4 day event and put the budgeted monies towards the fall campaign. As part of the deal, all delegates and State funded delegations must deposit their budgeted cost of plane fare and hotel rooms into the Obama for America account. Deposits must be made before September 1, 2008. The party will lose a deposit placed with the Denver convention authority. Senator Obama is well aware that the people need to see and hear him formally accept the nomination therefore a prime time event is to be scheduled on the evening of what would have been the final day of the convention. This event, with a series of speeches leading up to the big moment, will be held at Chicago?s very own Soldiers Field. It is expected that close to 100,000 adoring fans will be present to hear him accept the nomination of the Democratic Party and to say those awe inspiring words, ?I love you back?. Republican Party officials are quite upset that the Democrats have found a way to save millions of dollars and still hold a unifying event. http://www.partizane.com/?p=364
That really would be the nail in the coffin for the Democratic Party.
Also, the actual plans are scary enough (even if the above is just a rumor). Imagine congressional candidates in conservative districts having to go "hat in hand" to the Obama controlled Democratic Party?
How do you spell R-E-V-O-L-T?
I saw that and was like :eek: I wonder if they're going to cancel it because they got wind of a march being organized??
ZY123
06-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Wow.....there's just no response to that. Anyone who thinks this move is good has blinders on so thick they are a lost cause. All of these suspect and obviously corrput things have been going on throughout this election and what shocks me is that half of the primary voters don't get it. Our country is really in decline to have so many people lack critical thinking skills. Sorry for the bleak comment but it's true and glaring unfortunately....here's hoping we snap out of it.
Justmy.02
06-12-2008, 04:20 PM
This is unbelievable! I knew his resignation from Trinity was a sham. He's just goin' right back home.
It is a well known fact Chicago politics are and have been the most corrupt in this country since way back when. All the nasty comments from Obama supporters toward anyone who said anything negative really irritated me.
These fools are just like sheep to the slaughter. I remarked that Obama reminds me of a dictator..first the silver (forked) tongue rhetoric and then the takeovers.
Sandra
06-12-2008, 04:24 PM
Cool. Now I know what to do with my leftover Hillary Clinton stickers. ;)
(I won't actuallyplaster their windows with the stickers, but it's fun to fantasize about it.)
Ijane
06-12-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm totally shocked a lawsuit against the DNC hasn't been launched yet!
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If they move the convention from Denver I imagine the lawsuits will bankrupt the DNC!! Can you imagine how many vendors would be screwed if they move the convention?!!
ZY123
06-12-2008, 04:28 PM
If they move the convention from Denver I imagine the lawsuits will bankrupt the DNC!! Can you imagine how many vendors would be screwed if they move the convention?!!
Good point. Let's think about this logically...can they really "move" the convention (thinking from a business perspective)? Or is this some sort of scare tactic? (I'm asking)
mukunda22
06-12-2008, 04:31 PM
The Democratic Party has gone from bad to worse, and this latest escapade proves it.
Plus, F***ING Bo going after anyone who questions him on the internet--goodluck, buddy--
He is a fascist pig. The only problem is, the internet is the last bastion of free speech.
He just pronounced war and he's gonna lose.
ZY123
06-12-2008, 04:33 PM
The convention is NOT moving...that idea is not logical.
Ijane
06-12-2008, 04:53 PM
The convention is NOT moving...that idea is not logical.
Today 03:31 PM
Impossible! But at the rate the DNC is screwing up maybe it is possible! :p
"The convention will have a significant economic impact not just on Denver, but it will have a ripple effect across the entire state and the West. This will be great for Denver and great for Colorado. A major reason we were able to compete against a city like New York and ultimately win ... is because Denver made important investments in infrastructure."
- Governor Bill Ritter
"Like the Democratic Party itself, the Mile High City embodies the 21st century ideals of economic strength, environmental consciousness, regional collaboration, cutting-edge technological infrastructure and visionary zeal that will help lead America in the year 2008 and beyond."
- Mayor John Hickenlooper
http://www.2004dnc.com/
kyforhillary
06-12-2008, 05:45 PM
They're moving it so more people can visit the cemetaries and get more dead peoples names.
Sandra
06-12-2008, 05:50 PM
I don't understand why they would move to Chicago. Illinois is a blue state and Obama won the primary here quite handily. They'd be better off moving it to a Clinton-won state. Any ideas, anyone ?
Tea toaD
06-12-2008, 05:53 PM
They're moving it so more people can visit the cemetaries and get more dead peoples names.
Good one:eek:
thebword
06-12-2008, 05:57 PM
I feel like we are under a very dark cloud. The cries of racism and "not a muslim" from the Obama camp are simply distractions to keep us off the real trail of deceit.
How long until Pelosi and Dean - once the instigators become the hostages?
;)Seems to me that has already taken place.;)
deniseds
06-12-2008, 05:59 PM
I really thought that the National party base had to stay in D.C. but somehow in this election I am not surprised. Dean is OB's puppet so I am sure he figures he can get away with it.
JMS825
06-12-2008, 06:00 PM
Where at in Chicago maybe I can go there and ask for some Hillary in 08 bumber stickers
thebword
06-12-2008, 06:03 PM
:D:D:D:D
Ewwww..... that's so much fun clicking on the obamanation signs. Trick is to close the page before his drivel starts. :D:D:D:D
No, No, No, trick is getting him to just repeat :rolleyes:Hi I'm, Hi I'm, Hi I'm, Hi I'm, Hi I'm, Hi I''m, Hi:rolleyes: which explains why he can't remember what he is saying right in the middle of a sentence.
Catherine
06-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Good News - Ron Paul is ending his presidential campaign today. I've had this terrible feeling that BO had been funding Ron Paul's bid to draw votes from John McCain.
martreasures
06-12-2008, 06:11 PM
where better to move the DNC then to chicago the most politically corrupt city in the nation the last 2 IL governors are either in jail or about to start serving there sentence. one family has controled the city for almost 100 years.. I live 45 miles north of chicago in wisconsin when the wind blows north we can smell the politics all the way up here....
suerw
06-12-2008, 06:13 PM
Has anything like this done in recent years? I see a dark cloud covering the land and a storm...take over storm is brewing. Democracy will be smothered.
The light behind the dark cloud is Hillary. And if they deny her, as it appears the DNC and Obama machine are intent on doing, the light is the true American John McCain.
_______________________
Stand Strong for OUR Country
Bloomer
06-12-2008, 06:15 PM
I've got a really Baddddd feeling about all of this. WTF is going on?
And Ron Paul pulling out of the race could be an indication too that the Republicans are seeing that Ron could cost the party votes and they want to be damn sure a demi doesn't get into the WH so by him pulling out it leaves more dissatisfied voters that will turn to McCain. This is actully a good thing.
hillaryhoosier
06-12-2008, 06:53 PM
I wonder how long they will wait to announce that Obama will accept the nomination at Soldier Field in Chicago as the rumor that is going around states.
I have never in my life seen anything like this. When he is afraid of losing, he just eliminates any chance.
He is taking over the DNC as a presumptive nominee?
What will happen to the DNC when he goes down in flames- and he will.
foxyladi
06-12-2008, 07:10 PM
I wonder how long they will wait to announce that Obama will accept the nomination at Soldier Field in Chicago as the rumor that is going around states.
I have never in my life seen anything like this. When he is afraid of losing, he just eliminates any chance.
He is taking over the DNC as a presumptive nominee?
What will happen to the DNC when he goes down in flames- and he will.
YES HE CAN YES HE WILL
CLICKTY CLICK
Bella
06-12-2008, 07:16 PM
What a joke. Yeah, move the DNC to the most politically corrupt city. Maybe Rezko can get them a deal on property.
nette60
06-12-2008, 07:21 PM
Obama is taking controll of the DNC...after a while it will be under control of Chicago political system and Obama onlly, This is a way to eliminate competition and have all his support right there....
shadow
06-12-2008, 07:22 PM
WTF is going on? Why is the media not speaking up? How on earth is he pulling all this off?
The man has to be stopped. He seems intent on not being president, who works for the country, but a king or dictator, demanding his way. Surely congress and senate could stop him were he to find a way to actullay win?
What next? Martial law?
Now I understand why Ob says he will do away with impeachment.
:mad:
Peppermint Patty
06-12-2008, 07:29 PM
OMG, there have been many disturbing events during the past 6 months of this campaign/election. This latest fiasco - moving big chunks of the DNC to Chicago land - is right up there in the "WTF?" category. :eek:
Rezko, Obama, Chicago, DNC. Anyone else smell TROUBLE?
I think I just went numb from reading about this and reading those stupid NObamabot comments over there! Dear God in Heaven help us! :eek:
Peppermint Patty
06-12-2008, 07:34 PM
There's a clickable obama ad on that page - have at it!
I clicked on it 30 times. I only let him get in one "Hi" and hit it over and over... began to sound like "Hiel Hitler!" Oy vey!!! :eek:
EngCindy
06-12-2008, 07:41 PM
How in the hell can any candidate, presumptive or not; or even any Chairman, just move the DNC ?
This is a National Party. It's "leaders" are in Washington D.C. . The arrogance of Obama and Dean, is beyond belief.
I am becoming more enraged as every day passes. Every superdelegate should be forwarned; and, they should come out and demand the National Party stay where it is most convenient and cost effective for the "leaders", not a particular candidate.
Let's think a little ahead....In 20 years, where is the DNC going to be then ? Still in Chicago ? Wherever the presumptive candidate lives ? Can anyone say "bought and paid for " ?
This should NOT be allowed. Obama is the "presumptive nominee", not the official nominee. No DNC funds should be spent by a candidate, until the official nominee is voted in. What happens if Obama doesn't become the nominee; (no matter what the reason) ? What is the logic of having the National Headquarters in Chicago ?
Start writing those supers, especially those up for re-election.
Patricia GA
06-12-2008, 07:52 PM
We all know who is in Chicago. This is planned too.
Viktoriya
06-12-2008, 07:54 PM
People, it is really very scary.
LJSNAustin
06-12-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm totally shocked a lawsuit against the DNC hasn't been launched yet!
WHEN, DEAR LORD, WHEN?!?!??!?
shadow
06-12-2008, 08:08 PM
a comment from the article:
In Chicago Obama can run it the way he needs to run it. It will focus on the presidential election, and even congressional ones, without being eaten alive by the political beast of Washington.
"The political beast of Washington"??? They do understand that the white house, the congress and senate, are in Washington? Does Ob plan to move the entire thing to Chicago?
Area504
06-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Impossible! But at the rate the DNC is screwing up maybe it is possible! :p
http://www.2004dnc.com/
OT, but I just noticed the pic on that page, of Hillary looking at Obama during a debate I think. CHECK OUT the look on her face, looking at him!!
http://www.2004dnc.com/devalpatrickcleanenergy/HillaryObamaClintonObama_2.jpg
The term "If looks could kill" comes to mind
(for the bots: that's a figure of speech; not an assassination comment).
Ebinger
06-12-2008, 08:18 PM
People, it is really very scary.
It sure is. This is as if BHO lauched a successful political coup against the DNC.
shadow
06-12-2008, 08:26 PM
I don't know the rules. But surely he cannot just do this? I mean, he is demanding that real people just up and leave their homes to move to Chicago? Uproot thier children?
Doesn't the DNC represent ALL the democrats? Can't we say no? When did OB become dictator who can demand, and receive?
Is the media aware of this? Surely one news person has to see this for what it is and speak up?
How long do we stay silent and allow this one man to keep taking away our rights, one by one?
CAN he just cancel the convention? Surely the chosen delegates would say no? Am I this nieve?
Laura Cereta
06-12-2008, 08:27 PM
The audacity of arrogance... *sigh* :rolleyes:
We MUST keep this self-obsessed radical out of the White House! :eek:
mjoynaples
06-12-2008, 08:37 PM
I wonder how long they will wait to announce that Obama will accept the nomination at Soldier Field in Chicago as the rumor that is going around states.
I have never in my life seen anything like this. When he is afraid of losing, he just eliminates any chance.
He is taking over the DNC as a presumptive nominee?
What will happen to the DNC when he goes down in flames- and he will.
NOBAMA NEVER!
samkm
06-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Since this is causing so much angst, I called DNC and asked to speak with Dean's office.
Man I spoke with said this article is a blog and incorrectly titled (read: the content is accurate). He said yes some people are moving to help there with the campaign but the HQ is "still" in DC.
I asked if they were issuing any statement to quell the rumor. There does not seem to be any such plans.
I also asked if there was going to be no Roll Call in Denver. Another rumor, he said. They are definitely planning on having roll call just like in years past.
I asked if they are planning on issuing a clarification to quell this rumor. Answer appears to be vague no.. from which I gather they are trying to maintain flexibility.
JMS825
06-12-2008, 09:33 PM
I wonder what forms of advertising is outside the DNC that can be rented to say Dems for McCain paid for by PUMA
RachachaSharon
06-12-2008, 09:36 PM
I feel like we are under a very dark cloud. The cries of racism and "not a muslim" from the Obama camp are simply distractions to keep us off the real trail of deceit.
How long until Pelosi and Dean - once the instigators become the hostages?
If Pelosi and Dean think they can control BO, I think they're sadly mistaken. BO has a history of using others and passing blame onto others. Recent events are making me uneasy.
RachachaSharon
06-12-2008, 09:38 PM
Since this is causing so much angst, I called DNC and asked to speak with Dean's office.
Man I spoke with said this article is a blog and incorrectly titled (read: the content is accurate). He said yes some people are moving to help there with the campaign but the HQ is "still" in DC.
I asked if they were issuing any statement to quell the rumor. There does not seem to be any such plans.
I also asked if there was going to be no Roll Call in Denver. Another rumor, he said. They are definitely planning on having roll call just like in years past.
I asked if they are planning on issuing a clarification to quell this rumor. Answer appears to be vague no.. from which I gather they are trying to maintain flexibility.
They won't put anything in writing unless they have to. A verbal denial in their minds is the same as nothing.
Hmm maybe I can get a job there and turn things inside out :)
Go for it!:D
JMS825
06-12-2008, 09:39 PM
Anyone know the address of where the DNC was moved?
RachachaSharon
06-12-2008, 09:40 PM
What a joke. Yeah, move the DNC to the most politically corrupt city. Maybe Rezko can get them a deal on property.
Maybe he thinks that his presence in Chicago will quell any rumors generated from there.
santafegal
06-12-2008, 09:42 PM
The article says:
In a major shakeup at the Democratic National Committee -- and a departure from tradition -- large parts of the committee's operations are relocating to Chicago to be fully integrated with the Obama campaign.
Yes, the corrupt parts. :eek:
El Cuco
06-12-2008, 09:45 PM
Originally Posted by Sandy in PA
There's a clickable obama ad on that page - have at it!
So how does it work, he has to pay every time we click on it?
RachachaSharon
06-12-2008, 09:45 PM
How in the hell can any candidate, presumptive or not; or even any Chairman, just move the DNC ?
This is a National Party. It's "leaders" are in Washington D.C. . The arrogance of Obama and Dean, is beyond belief.
I am becoming more enraged as every day passes. Every superdelegate should be forwarned; and, they should come out and demand the National Party stay where it is most convenient and cost effective for the "leaders", not a particular candidate.
Let's think a little ahead....In 20 years, where is the DNC going to be then ? Still in Chicago ? Wherever the presumptive candidate lives ? Can anyone say "bought and paid for " ?
This should NOT be allowed. Obama is the "presumptive nominee", not the official nominee. No DNC funds should be spent by a candidate, until the official nominee is voted in. What happens if Obama doesn't become the nominee; (no matter what the reason) ? What is the logic of having the National Headquarters in Chicago ?
Start writing those supers, especially those up for re-election.
This must be his deal for helping the DNC raise money. "I'll do it, but I'm taking over." I think he's forgotten he's only the self-proclaimed presumptive nominee. It's not a done deal.
IVEATCH
06-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Chicago is a political beast whose bare knuckle style of politics will quickly become apparent to those in the rest of the country who may be unfamilar with it.
Some Local on the campaign is gonna' slip up .............
Best Regards,
RAFREE
06-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Go for it!:D
Actions like getting on the INSIDE are valid at this point. Julianne I think you are one of the few that are as radical in their thinking as I am. That's actually a GOOD thing, a really good thing in cases like this.
You have a RUTHLESS person here. He's gamed the system with the DNC to over ride the will of the American voters...these types COUNT ON YOU TO BE POLITE AND PLAY NICE. If you do, they will keep doing what they are getting away with.
We have to start fighting fire with fire here. That was the mistake of our campaign for Hillary. We didn't know what we were dealing with. We tried to open debate. We were so puzzled at being shoved of Daily Kos, and all the democratic blogs. We thought it was JUST the media being horribly sexist but, the party would come out for us soon...well NOW we know it was all a damned set up so the party could drag in the SOROS money and the other billionaire backers. Brazile?? She wanted to "make Obama the next nominee for president in the democratic party!" *2004 statement of Brazile at the National Black Caucus* Dean wanted to "energize the base" with MONEY.
This was not about your vote. It was about the party and their f*cking AGENDA.
But there is one thing they so casually forget...Americans don't take lightly to people screwing around with the will of the voters.
This party is eating it's own...with glee.
I would welcome anybody with suggestions of ANY kind that would help us turn their own tactics back on them. Sadly, we HAVE to think like Axelrod to beat Barackula.
JMS825
06-12-2008, 10:45 PM
Anyone know the address of where the DNC was moved?
I want to find out what advertising options we have in the area so we can get a PUMA ad out there
PA_Voter
06-12-2008, 11:02 PM
I think it's a move to remove any and all Hillary supporters from the DNC! Eliminate any people who haven't drank the Kool-Aid!
Anyone know the address of where the DNC was moved?
I want to find out what advertising options we have in the area so we can get a PUMA ad out there
I hear Rezko's house is vacant - I think he is in prison or something? :rolleyes:
Maybe they can set up a temporary DNC there - better still - maybe they can combine Rezko's house and Obama's house and increase the area available.
Chicago is a political beast whose bare knuckle style of politics will quickly become apparent to those in the rest of the country who may be unfamilar with it.
Some Local on the campaign is gonna' slip up .............
Best Regards,
And the sooner they slip up, the better!
Linda C
06-13-2008, 12:01 AM
Dean will retain the title of "Chariman". So "officially the mailing address will be in Washington DC. Might be a little PO Box.....:rolleyes: Dean has now been marginalized. His usefulness is over for Obama. He will remain a figure head. Donna Brazille "might be movin on up to a dee lux apartment" though:D
The thing we can focus on right now is to continue to help retire Hillary Clinton's debt.
abigailadams
06-13-2008, 12:27 AM
OK, what I want to know is "Where is this all going?"
The DNC clearly wanted Hilary out of the picture much earlier. Now they have to do all of this really fast.
THe DNC has no money - Obama has money and connections to money (from where?).
Does Dean have any choice as to whether or not he moves to Chicago? Maybe not. Will the members of the DNC be intimidated like the pro-hillary bloggers have been?
In any event there are some major moves going on. I am trying to wrap my head around where all of this is going?
If Universal HEalth Care is a "non-Starter" as Kerry said then what is their priority?
Who benefits?
Chicago is the home of Barack's gang of Hoods:Rezko, Alsammarae, Farrakahn etc.
Doesn't look to honest to me.
abigailadams
06-13-2008, 12:29 AM
Farrakahn's House.
abigailadams
06-13-2008, 12:31 AM
I didn't write the rest of my last post. OBs connections with Farrakahn scare the hell out of me. And Rezko, too. Why does Dean want to be near all this crap. Where is Farrakahn's House by the way?
Kbentleyis
06-13-2008, 12:48 AM
Well, we've been hearing about the holdouts. Something drastic is happening at the DNC.
CriticalOne
06-13-2008, 01:21 AM
Excuse my French, but WTF?!
I saw someone mention this, today, and I seriously thought they were joking. They aren't even trying to hide anything, anymore. The DNC is now nothing more than a BRANCH office of Obama's campaign. I thought I'd never see the day. I thought they'd be much more sneaky about their affinity for him.
Little since Iowa has surprised me about this year, but this floored me. I shouldn't be surprised but I didn't think the DNC would have the audacity to essentially and definitively prove they were in Obama's pocket all along. There is simply no other way to see this. A move of this size proves that this has been in the work for MONTHS.
BTW, I try not to read the comments at Politico (or anywhere else) anymore, but some of the reactions were just stunning. I'd think that even if you were an Obama supporter you'd see something wrong and off with this.
abigailadams
06-13-2008, 02:29 AM
Well, we've been hearing about the holdouts. Something drastic is happening at the DNC.
What holdouts?
shadow
06-13-2008, 09:55 AM
I honestly don't understand how he can do this, right now. He is not official until after the convention. WTF is going on? Why isn't anyone in a position of power standing up as these crooks muscle to take over the entire party?
The nomination is not settled. Hillary didn't give up her delegates. This isn't a done deal until they vote at the convention. Has OB managed to over-throw the entire process and declare himself dictator?
PCFS1
06-13-2008, 10:11 AM
To leave Washington DC is so stupid. Chicago the corrupt home of Obama, I mean come now.
Gee, Now you call that fair and balanced. The DNC in OBAMAVILLE. just shows how the DNC is making a big mistakes all along this campaigne.
PCFS
Calico
06-13-2008, 10:23 AM
But there is one thing they so casually forget...Americans don't take lightly to people screwing around with the will of the voters.
This party is eating it's own...with glee.
I would welcome anybody with suggestions of ANY kind that would help us turn their own tactics back on them. Sadly, we HAVE to think like Axelrod to beat Barackula.
This is scary stuff! We are heading to an ObamaNation and it is not going to be very pleasant.
Yes, we need to turn their own tactics back on them. We to find a way to get the word out to the general public!
Unless, the public realizes what is happening, we are doomed. With msm spewing 24/7 nonsense about how great BO is, the public will eventually become "brainwashed." And, perhaps that is what the BO camp is doing trying to brainwash the people . . .
Bottom line this can't happen! This is downright scary!
RAFREE
06-13-2008, 10:31 AM
This is scary stuff! We are heading to an ObamaNation and it is not going to be very pleasant.
Yes, we need to turn their own tactics back on them. We to find a way to get the word out to the general public!
Unless, the public realizes what is happening, we are doomed. With msm spewing 24/7 nonsense about how great BO is, the public will eventually become "brainwashed." And, perhaps that is what the BO camp is doing trying to brainwash the people . . .
Bottom line this can't happen! This is downright scary!
This has Soros written ALL OVER IT. Are you all familiar with his tactics in other countries?? Things like going into schools and giving tons of money for ALL the textbooks in a whole country and such and then the leaders of that country are beholden to him. Gaining so much power and influence in their governments that his agenda in that country can be put forward???
Calico
06-13-2008, 11:01 AM
This has Soros written ALL OVER IT. Are you all familiar with his tactics in other countries?? Things like going into schools and giving tons of money for ALL the textbooks in a whole country and such and then the leaders of that country are beholden to him. Gaining so much power and influence in their governments that his agenda in that country can be put forward???
I am just learning about Soros.
Up until, February, like many I would imagine, believed Hillary would be the nominee without a doubt. Since then, it has become evident that this has been planned since 2004.
Ever since my "awakening" to reality, I have been attempting to discover what is really happening. It seems that Soros is behind everything and the more that I learn the scarier all of this becomes. It appears, BO is just a puppet in his master plan. Our county is already a disaster, thanks to GWB. Does this Soros guy think that he can sell the public on BO and appear to "fix" some of the problems and the people will be so "thankful" that Soros via BO will be deemed some sort of "miracle worker". And, then the real agenda begins.
mandyb
06-13-2008, 11:29 AM
Obama moves quickly to reshape DNC
Barack Obama’s move to merge key elements of the Democratic National Committee into his own campaign’s Chicago headquarters appears aimed at the goal of a centralized and united Democratic Party.
There's more, I just couldn't finish reading it, made me want to vomit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080613/pl_politico/11045
There has to be a way to stop this arrogant SOB
ScottVA
06-13-2008, 11:52 AM
LOL JUST A THOUGHT BUT!
I WONDER what the DNC is going to do when Obama loses in November OR gets indicted.. (assuming the GOP doesn't blow him out of the water before then)..... They certainly are going to GREAT LENGTHS for him (it's unprecidented because I don't think they've ever done this for any candidate before.... When a person puts all their eggs in one basket it sometimes is a sign of desperation!
Brooke
06-13-2008, 12:01 PM
Hey, can we rename Chicago "Jonestown"?
Guys, don't be surprised if they move into Park Ridge.:rolleyes:
Further disturbing update (June 13):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11045.html
Tea toaD
06-13-2008, 12:27 PM
But the move to Chicago also inspired some concern among Democrats who would prefer the party play a larger, independent function, and not merely serve the nominee.
And not merely serve the messiah is what it should have said. The take over has begun. It will be like fighting Golaith.
Brooke
06-13-2008, 12:29 PM
His campaign has valued centralized power over creative tension, and his internal motto is “no drama.”
Have these people been sleeping over the past 6 months? They've had NOTHING BUT drama.
This is just so disturbing and probably a sign of things to come. Obama says "jump" and the DNC says "how high?"
You know what though, look at it this way. When Hillary wins the nomination, she could move it to Park Ridge and it wouldn't be that far of a move..lol.
shadow
06-13-2008, 12:44 PM
What am I missing? How can he do this, now, before the convention??? The nomination is not even real yet. How can he take over this way when he is not the official nominee yet? :confused:
Karee Wyoming
06-13-2008, 12:54 PM
don't you see, he needs to get back to his church and the racist hate of america and whites, we all know we all FEEL BETTER WHEN WE ARE IN OUR OWN HOMES
DRAFT HILLARY IN DENVER AT THE CONVENTION - ROLL CALL
I dont care if the DNC moves to Kenya!!!! I am focusing on one thing and one thing only, leaving the corrupt Dem party and voting for John McCain in Nov. I visited the above site and his supporters really believe he is the Messia sent here from Chicago to save us all!!!! No we neeed to save ourselves and this country and thier is only one way!!! Vote for John McCain!!!!!!
I will not give up on trying to get the truth out on this scumbag dictator!!!!
ScottVA
06-13-2008, 01:07 PM
I could care less myself....... let them go to Chicago! I don't really know what purpose that serves.......unless they think they need to be protected in some way! LOL
brussell
06-13-2008, 01:42 PM
Obama Moves DNC Headquarters to Chicago
By SusanUnPC
Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
I knew at once that Barack Obama was seizing the DNC by the hair, and dragging it into his lair where he can seize control of the Democratic party’s monies, its employees, and any access to its power brokers. The party is no longer, in any way, the party of the Democratic voter. It is now Barack Obama’s party, to do with as he wishes.
The Obama-controlled Chicago machine will hold sway over all Superdelegates running for reelection this year — including their access to money, support, and endorsements.
...
Chicago is the home of Obama’s longtime extremist mentors, associates, advisers and benefactors — both before and immediately after his law school years — including Reverends Jeremiah Wright, Otis Moss and James Meeks; Minister Louis Farrakhan; Father Michael Pfleger; Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn; marketing guru David Axelrod who created the mix-and-match Obama and Deval Patrick personae; the convicted Antoin “Tony” Rezko who only two years ago enabled a “sweetheart deal” that allowed Barack and Michelle Obama to buy a historic mansion they could ill afford; the Illinois state senator power broker Emil Jones who “[f]or almost a year … used his position as leader of the state senate to block anticorruption legislation passed unanimously by the state’s lower house.”
Smith writes:
The move reflects Obama’s desire to maintain an unusually streamlined campaign, as well as his swift and complete takeover of a Democratic Party that isn’t always known for its unity.
To which Riverdaughter replies, about this “complete and utter takeover of the DNC by the Obama campaign”:
I’m guessing that “streamlined” means “pared to the bone for cost reasons”. “Consolidate” means “have Obama hire the staff because the DNC can’t pay them”. Is it that Obama has highjacked the DNC or is it that the DNC is forced to go this route because the fundraising machine has dried up over the outrageous treatment of Hillary Clinton? And if it is the latter, how long will it take before it cries “Uncle” and ceases to exist as a party apparatus at all?
Read the rest
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/13/obama-moves-dnc-headquarters-to-chicago/
What am I missing? How can he do this, now, before the convention??? The nomination is not even real yet. How can he take over this way when he is not the official nominee yet? :confused:
Yes, this is what I find extroadinarily alarming. He is not even the official nominee and he is allowed to do this? It's outrageous. Truly. No nominee - presumptive, official or president - should be able to unilaterally move the headquarters of the entire organization to their own backyard!!!!
LadyVT
06-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Calico-- I agree with you. Soros is frightening. I'm beginning to think BO CAN'T lose in the fall because of the Obama superdelegate, Andrews (and the Chicago mob), who works for Diebold. I just have a very sinking feeling.
I'm also concerned about what could happen if/when BO becomes POTUS and doesn't want to leave for what will inevitably be a "lesser" position after eight years.
victory
06-13-2008, 02:11 PM
DNC is hurting for money? BWAAAH! Good. I hope they suffer. And I hope it spreads to BO's coffers as well.
suerw
06-13-2008, 02:22 PM
Rafree wrote I would welcome anybody with suggestions of ANY kind that would help us turn their own tactics back on them. Sadly, we HAVE to think like Axelrod to beat Barackula.
I see what you say -- fight fire with fire. We've seen that playing nice, being respectful didn't work. Isn't there one of the already organized anti-Obama sites that might consider organizing as a 527 and playing hardball?
Suzan
06-13-2008, 03:39 PM
If you ever needed a reason to get the hell out of the Democratic party, this is it! That ship's headed for an iceberg.
I'm an independent who's thinking of going Republican just to get further away from the Democratic Party.
I echo what several have already said here: I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. NEVER. How can a PRESUMPTIVE nominee take over the DNC? He's not even official yet ... except that he is, apparently, in their minds. Small wonder they won't let Hillary on the ballot.
This is fascism, folks!!!
JamieKuuipo
06-13-2008, 03:50 PM
He is not even the official nominee!
We need to send this to the media! This is too much!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html
MOVE THE REST OF THE MOB FAMILY TO CHICARGO SO I CAN KEEP AN EYE
ON THEM AND MAKE SURE THERE NOT SKIMMING THE MONEY.
ITS ALL MINE. IT ALL COMES HERE TO CHICARGO, IM GOING TO GET ALL
THE DNC MONEY, PEOPLE, HERE, SO I CAN NOW TAKE OVER THE WORLD.
NO BODY DOSE ANY THING WITH OUT THE BOSS APPROVAL.
YOU GOT IT, NOW EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND DO AS I SAY.
AFTER WE GET ALL THE DNC OVER HERE, TELL THEM TO GET THE CLINTON SUPPORTER TO FALL IN LINE TOO.
GET ALL HER PEOPLE AND GET THEM OUT THERE MAKING THEM FALL
IN LINE. USE ROW VS WADE THAT WILL DO IT TELL THEM ANY THING
I DON'T CARE JUST GET THERE MONEY GET THERE VOTE!
GET DEAN OVER HERE, I DON'T WANT HIM SCREWING THIS UP.
Oh and Peloski, just leave her to me, she will bow down to me in submission like she always has.
Charlie Brown
06-13-2008, 03:56 PM
I'm totally shocked a lawsuit against the DNC hasn't been launched yet!
Who is going to launch it???? They are all in the tank...This isnt about parties anymore...No one can make heads nor tails of any of it...We are about to see our country taken over by not only a Anti-American agenda but a Anti Christain....Next its the mark of the beast...The Beast being the goverments...I know some of you are not Christains and even though I wish you were...I respect your choice...But Murray you are a raised Catholic that has been taught what is to come...You know this...What is happening is writen....We must turn to our Lord and beg him for forgivness of our sins...Whatever they might be...Evil is here....No one knows who to trust for sure....We are not to trust man...That I do know...so pray for our leaders that they will have the Lords wishes at heart...not Satans...I pray for us all and I am so sad that im loosing faith in man kind....I am just sick and so sorry I didnt turn to our Lord sooner as time is short...PRAY PLEASE PRAY!!!!
Suzan
06-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Where's the You Tube clip that shows how he "eliminated" the competition in his state senate race? If you haven't seen it, trust me, it explains exactly what's going on.
This is corrupt Chicago politics all the way. Don't be surprised at anything that happens. It's beyond outrageous.
shadow
06-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Who is going to launch it???? They are all in the tank...This isnt about parties anymore...No one can make heads nor tails of any of it...We are about to see our country taken over by not only a Anti-American agenda but a Anti Christain....Next its the mark of the beast...The Beast being the goverments...I know some of you are not Christains and even though I wish you were...I respect your choice...But Murray you are a raised Catholic that has been taught what is to come...You know this...What is happening is writen....We must turn to our Lord and beg him for forgivness of our sins...Whatever they might be...Evil is here....No one knows who to trust for sure....We are not to trust man...That I do know...so pray for our leaders that they will have the Lords wishes at heart...not Satans...I pray for us all and I am so sad that im loosing faith in man kind....I am just sick and so sorry I didnt turn to our Lord sooner as time is short...PRAY PLEASE PRAY!!!!
Although I am not a christian, my family and friends who are say the same as you do. He definitly fits what is written.
But we do have some power. Even though Ob and his mob seem to have taken over the democratic party, they cannot win without ALL registered democrats, and some republicans as well.
The Ob poeple loved to shout "the math". He *won* about 50% of registered democrats, and Hillary, about 50%. But to win the GE, he has to not only carry his 50% but he also needs Hillary's 50%. That won't happen. At best, he will get approximately 25% nationally, when we vote in November.
We Hillary supporters are the ones he is coming for, and we have to stay strong and vote Mccain, and get all we can to help.
Suzan
06-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Although I am not a christian, my family and friends who are say the same as you do. He definitly fits what is written.
But we do have some power. Even though Ob and his mob seem to have taken over the democratic party, they cannot win without ALL registered democrats, and some republicans as well.
The Ob poeple loved to shout "the math". He *won* about 50% of registered democrats, and Hillary, about 50%. But to win the GE, he has to not only carry his 50% but he also needs Hillary's 50%. That won't happen. At best, he will get approximately 25% nationally, when we vote in November.
We Hillary supporters are the ones he is coming for, and we have to stay strong and vote Mccain, and get all we can to help.
I hear you, Shadow. I wonder if anyone's figured out mathematically how many of Hillary's supporters he needs to win. We need to make sure he doesn't get them.
shadow
06-13-2008, 08:02 PM
Unless he really does have some way to "have dead people register and vote", I don't see how he can win the GE. If all the democrats were behind him, it would still be a 50/50 shot at a win. And as far as I can tell, he doesn't have all the democrats. He has to find a way to get us Hillary supporters, and I am hoping none of us will go over. I see him losing, on a huge scale.
For people who loved to shout "look at the math", the OB campaign has been very quiet about the real math that counts now.
Sandra
06-13-2008, 08:05 PM
Excellent point, shadow ! They were obsessed with math before, what happened???? :D
PhillyGuy1
06-14-2008, 10:03 AM
MOVE THE REST OF THE MOB FAMILY TO CHICARGO SO I CAN KEEP AN EYE
ON THEM AND MAKE SURE THERE NOT SKIMMING THE MONEY.
ITS ALL MINE. IT ALL COMES HERE TO CHICARGO, IM GOING TO GET ALL
THE DNC MONEY, PEOPLE, HERE, SO I CAN NOW TAKE OVER THE WORLD.
NO BODY DOSE ANY THING WITH OUT THE BOSS APPROVAL.
YOU GOT IT, NOW EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND DO AS I SAY.
AFTER WE GET ALL THE DNC OVER HERE, TELL THEM TO GET THE CLINTON SUPPORTER TO FALL IN LINE TOO.
GET ALL HER PEOPLE AND GET THEM OUT THERE MAKING THEM FALL
IN LINE. USE ROW VS WADE THAT WILL DO IT TELL THEM ANY THING
I DON'T CARE JUST GET THERE MONEY GET THERE VOTE!
GET DEAN OVER HERE, I DON'T WANT HIM SCREWING THIS UP.
That's great. I can easily visualize "Big Al" Capone barking out those same types of orders.
PhillyGuy1
PhillyGuy1
06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
Yes, this is what I find extroadinarily alarming. He is not even the official nominee and he is allowed to do this? It's outrageous. Truly. No nominee - presumptive, official or president - should be able to unilaterally move the headquarters of the entire organization to their own backyard!!!!
Moving to Chicago makes it much easier to bring all his corrupt cronies on board.
Mayor Daley, anyone? Gov. Rod Blagojevich, anyone?
And it makes it easier for the DNC membership to be likewise corrupted.
PhillyGuy1
Robin Orlowski
06-14-2008, 10:51 AM
I was upset that I was not going to be a national nominee this year. However, if things are heading in this direction, I am glad I jumped off the sinking ship.
Why oh-why don't people see what is going on with the direction of things?:confused::(:rolleyes::eek:
Last night, I watched an episode of Lois and Clark. A mystery candidate named John Doe was really a criminal who had successfully brainwashed everybody. Nobody knew anything about him except he was a 'darn nice guy who they had to vote for'--without any idea of what would happen when he then got into office!!
It SO eerily echoes today---and I wish I myself could actually call for Superman (who btw had easily seen through that 'koool-aid candidate'!)
The same episode was stressing he had ZERO tolerance for political corruption!!
Charlie Brown
06-14-2008, 11:17 AM
OT, but I just noticed the pic on that page, of Hillary looking at Obama during a debate I think. CHECK OUT the look on her face, looking at him!!
http://www.2004dnc.com/devalpatrickcleanenergy/HillaryObamaClintonObama_2.jpg
The term "If looks could kill" comes to mind
(for the bots: that's a figure of speech; not an assassination comment).
I remember this picture and think of it a lot....She knows....remember in NH when she teared up and said she didnt like the direction our country was going in...I figured it was because Of the War...But I believe now that is a bigger message...Also when she mentioned the woman waiting in the rain to give her a Rosery..Hillary wants us all to pray...She knows the power of those beads...No matter what our faith we must turn to God....I know Im harping on this ...But please its urgent...Our Country is in Grave danger...the World actually...Only God can spare us....Pray for our Leaders...
Charlie Brown
06-14-2008, 11:23 AM
I could care less myself....... let them go to Chicago! I don't really know what purpose that serves.......unless they think they need to be protected in some way! LOL
Earlier someone had a article on Obama having youth camps and teaching them at the camps to riot...Do you remember that???? What better way to keep The protesters at Bay and have his protesters the majority...Sorry but I would be scard to go to Chicago right now...Im sure so would others...
mjoynaples
06-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Yes, this is what I find extroadinarily alarming. He is not even the official nominee and he is allowed to do this? It's outrageous. Truly. No nominee - presumptive, official or president - should be able to unilaterally move the headquarters of the entire organization to their own backyard!!!!
THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC SO NOT JUST US WHO ARE HERE OR ON THE INTERNET ARE AWARE BUT EVERYONE and the people begin to see this is a freakin' conspiracy and we are being fooled to believe we are a democracy... what a joke... and the AUDACITY of our going into other countries to show them the light... what a load of B-ll crap!!
THIS IS REALLY DISTRESSING!!!
OH I WONDER IF THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSER FOR OPRAH WHO IS ALSO OUT OF CHICAGO to work on too... now she can literally go door to door.... wow what democracy... they all learn that money talks and with it you can make anything happen! SICKENING
Molly
06-14-2008, 11:36 AM
Hmmmm...Rumor??? There is a story on FOX political web site now that says the DNC is short of cash for the convention in Denver - Millions short!!! Maybe they are starting to set the stage for this exact thing!
endodoc79
06-14-2008, 11:54 AM
To quote FDR: The only thing we have to fear is rear itself. BO & thugs want you to be fearful. This should only make you work harder to spread the word- Obama is dangerous to our way of life and he must be stopped now. We don't want Chicago-style politics nationwide where it's pay to play and you send your hard earned tax money in so Obama can send it to his corrupt cronies in Africa and Indonesia as part of the Global Poverty Act and big business will rule with instructions to BO telling us what we can and can not do. He is a hypocrite, already telling us what to eat to be healthy, yet he's smoking cigarettes like a chimeny. Our greatest weapon against this BO cancer is to cut it out now before it has a chance to spread any further, and we do that with our votes. A vote for McCain or whoever else is on the ballot in November who can win is a vote for democracy.
Wyoming Dem
06-14-2008, 11:55 AM
I hear you, Shadow. I wonder if anyone's figured out mathematically how many of Hillary's supporters he needs to win. We need to make sure he doesn't get them.
I read some place that if Obama losses JUST 10% of the Hillary constituency, he cannot defeat McCain. This will be very critical in the "Swing" states as those states really can go either way. All those primaries he won??? FORGETABOUTIT! Every single one is a Republican stronghold and they will never go Democrat. Also, all those small states he won (small population) won't be enough in numbers to help him. As I and everyone else has said from DAY ONE...he is truly, "Un-Electable". Unless...we are all getting so paranoid that we believe that Soros, et al has found some way to rig the elections and God help me, I don't find this farfetched at all.
Robin Orlowski
06-14-2008, 11:57 AM
The 'nomination' is second now to the direction which the country is heading. Like everybody else here. I don't want America going down the drain.
I feel for Hillary in that photo. It really demonstrates her strength that she is not puking after listening to his continous stream of lies.
Okay, she looks like it--my honest first impression. But to be able to actually hold off is admirable.
I hope that attempt to move to Chicago is a 'desperate realization' they cannot win. I will then LOVE to see his face pouting!!:D
shadow
06-14-2008, 12:33 PM
I read some place that if Obama losses JUST 10% of the Hillary constituency, he cannot defeat McCain. This will be very critical in the "Swing" states as those states really can go either way. All those primaries he won??? FORGETABOUTIT! Every single one is a Republican stronghold and they will never go Democrat. Also, all those small states he won (small population) won't be enough in numbers to help him. As I and everyone else has said from DAY ONE...he is truly, "Un-Electable". Unless...we are all getting so paranoid that we believe that Soros, et al has found some way to rig the elections and God help me, I don't find this farfetched at all.
I believe that the OB campaign is overlooking something important. Back when Florida (and probably other states as well) held our primary, many registered republicans changed to democratic party to be able to vote in our primary, for Obama. Not because they want him for president, but because they knew they can beat him, whereas Hillary was a real threat.
Those people have now gone back to the republican party. OB is overlooking that fact. A lot of his votes were only to stop the real threat - Hillary. He keeps forgetting that.
diane
06-14-2008, 12:42 PM
Umm..... shouldn't a Senator serving in Congress actually BE in DC? I mean, I know Obama only showed up for photo ops and then took off on vacations (just like Bush!), and then to steal the Primay, but surely he still must have to at least pretend he's still a Senator right? So wouldn't it be easier for a member of Congress to be well...near Congress in DC?
Will the DNC now move it's headquarters to whichever State furture Noms are from?
Honestly, they make themselves so easy to hate.
Robin Orlowski
06-14-2008, 04:35 PM
That moving around the country could be a very sloppy process...and I doubt it's one which has been factored into the decision.
DC is the strategic position for a national political party headquarters to opperate from because the federal government is headquartered from there. Ditto for the headquarters of national political organizations which give money and support to political parties (again whatever we think of them).
Moving around/having to move around is going to make it difficult for these groups (even in the internet era) to contact a political party.
hillary4change
06-14-2008, 05:14 PM
:pWhat am I missing? How can he do this, now, before the convention??? The nomination is not even real yet. How can he take over this way when he is not the official nominee yet? :confused:
I guess this is part of the "selection" process. In the days of yore, we voted and elected, now it's "select" and "crown!" :confused:
The DNC will really look stupid when Fitz drags bo out of the new Chicago DNC for his indictment. :eek:
We have to look at the bright side, Dean, Pelosi, Brazile and goons will have easy access for visitation of their GREAT leader!! :eek::D:p:eek:
Molly
06-14-2008, 05:46 PM
It is NOW a FACT!!!!! I just spoke with the DNC - confirmed that the Washington, DC office has been shut down - all phones disconnected - for the move to Chicago - taking place over the week-end!!!!!
Please - CALL THEM -- 877-336-7200 - live person to take calls/complaints
shadow
06-14-2008, 07:33 PM
It is NOW a FACT!!!!! I just spoke with the DNC - confirmed that the Washington, DC office has been shut down - all phones disconnected - for the move to Chicago - taking place over the week-end!!!!!
Please - CALL THEM -- 877-336-7200 - live person to take calls/complaints
This is no longer the "Democratic National Committee". It is now "The Obama Stronghold".
We are no longer democrats. We have been changed, against our will, to "obamacrats", the new party.
I was holding out on changing party, but this clinched it. I am going monday to change oficially to republican. I refuse to stay, even on paper, affiliated with this communtist takeover shit.
Folamix
06-14-2008, 07:42 PM
If Pelosi and Dean think they can control BO, I think they're sadly mistaken. BO has a history of using others and passing blame onto others. Recent events are making me uneasy.
I think BO has money behind him. Its not him, its who supports him.
shadow
06-14-2008, 09:07 PM
I can't help but question who, really, is behind all this. Has anyone noticed that when OB has to speak "off the cuff", or in the few debates, he stammers and gets confused? I can't help but wonder if somebody else is the real threat and using him as a "front man". Alone, without teleprompters, ect, he stumbles and stammers, and cannot think on his feet, or answer a question. He comes across, to me, as well, kind of, dumb.
I wonder, is there somebody, some organization, who planned this long ago, and are using Ob because he is so easy to handle, and most likely because he is so narcisist (cannot spell) and so "in desire of power" that he is easily led/moved/pushed?
Morgan
06-14-2008, 09:19 PM
It is NOW a FACT!!!!! I just spoke with the DNC - confirmed that the Washington, DC office has been shut down - all phones disconnected - for the move to Chicago - taking place over the week-end!!!!!
Please - CALL THEM -- 877-336-7200 - live person to take calls/complaints
Unbelievable! What would BO do to the country if elected?
Does the DNC own or rent their DC building? Are they coming back after the election?
Robin Orlowski
06-14-2008, 10:05 PM
This is absurd. What happens when he looses? How will the DNC have justified this move?
Boston is another city with lots of established political opperatives. But the DNC did not dare move in 2004 for the Kerry campaign--despite the fact even that Kerry had a longer national record prior to running for President.
So the idea that they are now pulling up stake and will replant for a comparative amateur is especially puzzling. He's been in the Senate for a MUCH shorter time.
There is a critical difference between change and absurdity.
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