Which Discussion Topic/s Are You LEAST Interested In?

[CGP]

Many topics get discussed on this forum. We all have our favorite topics that we like to comment on. And then there are those topics that we may have no interest in at all! I'd like to know - which topics do you roll your eyes at? I know there are a few topics that I have zero interest in and which get the eye rolling treatment from me!

I will start...

My number one "not interested" topic? MICHELLE OBAMA

I have no interest. And no opinion, either positive or negative. I know she is a popular discussion point for many both in this forum and all across the Internet. But talking about her just doesn't interest me. If anything, I feel sorry for her.

So which topic/s do not interest you or annoy you?!?

[NSTYLE77]

Michelle Obama does not interest me at all! I think we sound like hypocrits when we talk about sexism but we trash talk Michelle. However, I understand she is fair game by her controversial statements!

[CGP]

Michelle Obama does not interest me at all! I think we sound like hypocrits when we talk about sexism but we trash talk Michelle. However, I understand she is fair game by her controversial statements!

Agree on all 3 counts.

[mjoynaples]

I want to encourage folks to boycott the View (there were a lot of folks mostly women on that show ... would like to see that show canceled sooner than later...) does anyone know their products to boycott too?

my favorite topic is Hillary and what she is doing or up too and DENVER ROLL CALL and WOMENPAC ADS...

[CGP]

Gosh yes, add "The View" to my "not interested/roll eyes" discussion topics list...;)

[SusanfromPA]

I prefer threads that make note of MSM articles that advance our cause in one way or another. Obviously pro Hillary articles are great. At the moment the ones that show the media (ever so slowly) starting to go after Obama are great too. I know that sounds negative, but the more we see the MSM exposing him the more our case will make sense to the general public.

[hillarymyhero]

When we discuss Michelle Obama in any way, it is absolutely NOT attacking her. Michelle Obama is negative about Hillary and her Husband multiple times....So, for me she is a fair game...and I love to expose Obama, Michelle Obama , DNC, Democratic party, obamabots and whoever supports Obama for their hypocrisy and for their sexism against Hillary.....And also I love to expose CNN/MSNBC's moronish attempts to promote Obama and to try to force him and MO in to our throats and choking us....

Also, don't forget to expose Oprah.....Sorry, I can't help exposing men, women who got involved in butchering democracy and in butchering our right and in butchering Hillary's truthfullness......I am honest and I can not stand all this hoopla about unity.....


Simply, I love to discuss anything negative about Obama, because he is 100% negative. I can't see anything positive about him.....I supportered John Kerry in 2004.........but, wished at that time , if, Hillary could be our nominee, this time I was sure she will be President....and this Obama stole our nomination....

I am unable to view him and his wife as positives...So, please, bear with my anger...I am mad, I am bitter and yes, I am Hillary supporter for McCain....

[lalene]

I am interested in everything - no topic comes to mind that I dislike. I am fine with the "negative" posts because we would be doing the same thing as the MSM if we chose to ignore the ugly truth. We still need to show the world who Bo really is and expose how corrupted the dems actually are - and ofcourse, promote HRC to become the next president!

[ZY123]

My least favorite type of threads:

Least favorite: Threads where someone posts something and every post in the entire thread either agrees with the original poster or reiterates something the original poster said...same content different word choice.

Second least favorite: Topics that get repeated over and over with no new information:
--Whitey tape
--Obama sucks (yes he does but please tell me new reasons why ;))


I'm not a big fan of the Michelle posts either....I just don't really care what she does. But in that regard I also find this whole election (now that it's two typical male candidates) has become boring as well....so I'm hoping for some new, exciting and interesting information on it soon.


I think it's just a slow time for new news that's all....things will pick up, especially as the convention grows closer (and as Hillary is mentioned more).

On the general topics...these ones I find myself having a low interest level in:
--OPRAH (can I please never hear about her again)
--The View (I agree with the others on this)
(Both of the above shows are an embarrassment to women IMHO.)

[foreigner4hillary]

I would like to see more threads discussing action plans to put Hillary in the Whitehouse in 2008.

I do not like to see threads regarding emailing Dean...it's a waste of time and somewhat delusional. You have to face the facts: 1. that he wanted BO to win all along, 2. that he knows all the atrocities, 3. he doesn't care.

I don't mind seeing MO threads as long as it isn't sexist. I don't think blasting her for the truth is sexist. She did say nasty things about Hillary and telling it isn't sexist. Just like telling the truth about BO isn't racist.

I don't mind seeing new stuff about BO although...at this stage, even if someone told me he sacrificed newborns and worships Satan...well...I wouldn't be surprised.

What I really just like to see are concrete plans for Hillary. I'd also like to see those plans take shape and form. It would be really nice if those threads also don't get derailed by well-meaning people who talk about other stuff on it.

I would also love to see more people encourage others to leave the DNC. I would love to see threads about what the Democratic Party has or has not done for you. I would love to see threads expressing why anyone would still want to stay in that party.

[Musicdude]

Typically in any forum, threads that are not of interest fall by the wayside because no one replies and few even read the thread. For instance, if MO was not fair game, no one would respond or even click on the thread to read it.

That said, my least favorite threads are the ones that "claim" new developments on an ongoing story, but when you read the first post, there is nothing factually new at all. It's just more speculation about a "maybe" situation. I prefer not to see another "whitey" tape thread, until I release the tape. Ooops. I mean, until such tape actually shows up. :eek:

[CGP]

But in that regard I also find this whole election (now that it's two typical male candidates) has become boring as well....so I'm hoping for some new, exciting and interesting information on it soon.

Yes, more of the same...So much for "change"...It's the same old, same old...Hillary was/is the interesting figure in all of this...It infuriates me DAILY that we are currently in this predicament having to listen to all this drab nonsense about Obama/McCain...Neither of them inspire a single cell in my body! The key difference being that McCain's behavior/politics don't infuriate me while BO's behavior/politics most certainly do! So in the Obama/McCain match-up I support McCain by default, not by attraction!

[SantaCruzen]

My number one "not interested" topic? MICHELLE OBAMA

I have no interest. And no opinion, either positive or negative. I know she is a popular discussion point for many both in this forum and all across the Internet. But talking about her just doesn't interest me. If anything, I feel sorry for her.

So which topic/s do not interest you or annoy you?!?

I never read anything about Michelle Obummer.

[Three Wickets]

Least interested. Pretty much every single entry in Huffpo, where I spent too much time fighting the "new liberals" before coming here. Especially miserable there are the minor celeb turned political guru posts.
For an advocacy site, HCF is terrific, well moderated, no complaints at all. For grassroots voices, the discussion level is high minded. Thanks for being here. You are Hillary's Spartans.

[CriticalOne]

Let's see, these are a few of my least favorite things...

1. Starting threads without articles, where the forumer is essentially turning the post into his or her own personal blog. Some are interesting; most are not.

2. Anything to do with Obama being a Muslim/terrorist.

3. Actualy conspiracy theory threads (i.e. Obama is the Anti-Christ)

4. Threads where folks don't actually read the article and commentary and post cliche responses like "Nobama" or "Hillary first, McCain second, Obama never". We get it.

Just a few...

[lynfreedom]

Threads I like are the one we can build upon. Ones that we can use to get together a portfolio of information to use to help Hillary. There are so many things on the net that we have not even researched yet. Had a guy from Chicago say that if the media would research the old stuff they would find Obama in the middle of the corruption..so I now am looking at the old.

Least favorite is when things start getting irrational as that does not solve anything.

[anthonyjones]

I agree. There are some "guests" who probably view this site and come here for information that isn't just pretty that the Obama's alway get from the MSM. Our input and truth could possibly change or secure their opinion.

[Kaylin]

I'm not overly crazy about conspiracy threads, either.

I also worry about putting too much time into waiting for an implosion, whether it's Larry Sinclair, the Michelle video, whatever. Larry Sinclair may be telling the truth, but with his background I also worry he's fleecing people who are hoping against hope that his story will grow legs in the media. Plus, even if he is being truthful, his story remains unsubstantiated and so smarmy that right now all it's doing is validating Obama's claims of being smeared, of needing the extra zillion dollars to defend himself against smears, etc.

[ZY123]

4. Threads where folks don't actually read the article and commentary and post cliche responses like "Nobama" or "Hillary first, McCain second, Obama never". We get it.

I agree with number 4 with a few things added: In these type of threads there also tend to be about 100 posts where people "agree" with each other. Then if someone posts a different opinion that person gets a chorus of "I disagree" posts.... personally I want to hear different perspectives and new and different thoughts (preferably rational and logical responses to posts rather emotional responses to posts that aren't personal). I'm not saying I want radical posts...just ones with some different twists or perspectives would be nice (of course Hillary first...no need for anyone to reiterate that...tell me some new reasons why!).

[ZY123]

Yes, more of the same...So much for "change"...It's the same old, same old...Hillary was/is the interesting figure in all of this...It infuriates me DAILY that we are currently in this predicament having to listen to all this drab nonsense about Obama/McCain...Neither of them inspire a single cell in my body! The key difference being that McCain's behavior/politics don't infuriate me while BO's behavior/politics most certainly do! So in the Obama/McCain match-up I support McCain by default, not by attraction!

No inspiration here either - Obama/McCain...it's not even interesting enough for me to flip on the TV or look at a newspaper. It's like another standard election....I was ready for someone really new and different...someone with something real to offer, that being Hillary. McCain doesn't infuriate me (like Obama and his politics do) but McCain barely gets me to look up from what I'm doing should I run across him on the television.

Are you still boycotting the MSM? I haven't watched one political type show (or news type show for that matter) since SD/MT. Not one, they just have nothing interesting to say....nothing...another standard election...ugh. Sci Fi it is. XD

[Lynne]

I like the posts that have evidence posted to support a claim. For example, to say Obama cheated is not specific. Instead I would like to see the claim and the evidence for the claim. For example, Obama cheated in the caucuses as reflected in the caucus complaints.
I want valid information that I can use when discussing issues with friends or not so friendly folks. It is easier for me to make my case in a debate if I can give sound information.

[RAFREE]

I am still boycotting. I am still looking for evidence and more facts that will out Obama as the fraud he is. I want the DNC to realize that we fully KNOW what they pulled on us here and THAT is why we are not falling in line.

I am not interested in Michelle Obama in the least at all. My goal is to take back this party and to expose the DNC for what they have done! I want real journalism back, Brazile and Dean FIRED and some measure of honesty restored to this party.

Also, I want Hillary apologized to by Obama and Axelrod for painting her as a racist and worse than that. Obama owes her an apology for not standing up to sexism and most of all for trying to paint her as someone who wished him harm. That was the LOWEST thing I've ever seen anyone do in a campaign!!

So most posts I am interested in are focused on showing who is honorable in this campaign and who is not! The rest doesn't matter, the big goal to me is to take this party back from George Soros and his ilk! I don't want a dictatorship and the party is sold to the highest bidder.

Michelle Obama is just a blip, and along for the ride....the bigger issues are really paramount right now or they are going to get away with this every election.

First goal??? talking to those supers and a ROLL CALL!

[joeysky18]

My list of "not interested" topic:

1. The launch of MO new version.
2. Trashing every Clinton loyalist that agree to do something for BO.
3. Astrology of the election.
4. The Holy book predicted something about the election.
5. The TV version of the at-the-office-water-cooler-gossip i.e. The View.

MOST Interested topic:

1. What else can we do to help retire Hillary debt.
2. Writing to SuperD.
3. Planning for Denver.
4. Help McCain fight the bias in MSM & spread the truth of BO.

[PuppyDogMom]

Sometimes it's just the title of a thread that annoys me. "Must Read" "Breaking News" ... I don't like the hype, especially if it isn't a "Must Read" or it isn't "Breaking News" ...

Threads that are nothing more that gossip are also annoying.

[evolin]

Most disinterested type articles now are :

Ones that suggest we call or email DNC members or delegates to try to influence them to change their attitudes toward Hillary.
We might as well go outside and throw stones at the wind.

What I am interested in is how we move forward as a group to prevent this man from becoming president.

What methods are we using to get the groups all on one page to remove unwanted congressional leaders?

What approach will be more effective in the fall to keep our group intact and as a voting block to prevent someone we do not approve of getting into the presidency?

Retiring Hillary's debt is worthy but personally I am afraid Obama is going to confiscate our donations. Just my personal fear.

We need monies to put ads out against the DNC and their hypocracy / corruption and to get public support against them and Obama.

So I guess I am saying "Give up on convincing any of the old cronies and DNC regulars to recognize a wrong doing"

Instead move forward to action against those who have been on the wrong side of the scale against Hillary and decency. Get plans in place for the convention and November elections.

[joeysky18]

Retiring Hillary's debt is worthy but personally I am afraid Obama is going to confiscate our donations. Just my personal fear.


Till now if you still have that fear, nobody here can convince you to change your mind. You have to change it yourself.

Do anything that you can think of to overcome that fear. Call HRC campaign, ask them how much debt they have left, call DNC, research the election law. Whatever it takes to help you remove your doubt. That is the least productive thing you can do to help Hillary at this stage.

If you listen to her yesterday, there was an extreme urgency in her voice when she talked about that the campaign must repay the vendor.

[freespirit]

I'm least interested in posts featuring negative information from reliable Hillary haters such as "The Nation", Daily Kos, and even MSNBC. We know they are going to just be talking smack about Hillary. Ocassionally, however, articles from some of these sources contain information which can be referenced to make a point or support a position when writing letters or blogging in support of Hillary. Otherwise, I just think we can expect the worse from some of these sources, and they are just old news.

My favorite posts are those containing information which - A. provides hard evidence that can be used toward the goal of supporting Hillary or defeating Obama; B. gives us some hope and renews our resolve - especially on days when it seems that everyone from Bevis and Butthead to the Pope has endorsed Obama.

Also, generally, the posts featuring articles from Canadian publications are usually good. Very early in this election process, I got a lot of good information from online Canadian newspapers, journals, etc. They were willing to report the truth about Obama when reporters from our media were fainting, swooning, and having their thighs tingle when BO entered the room.

I think this forum serves many purposes, depending on what's happening on any given day. Some days, when things seem particularly bad, it provides a place where people get it. I know when I come to the forum after something really discouraging has happened, that others will be just as angry and outraged as I am, and often will be able to articulate and clarify feelings and thoughts that help me put things into perspective. Often, on those days, I just read - rarely commenting, but it's always nice to be able to see that others feel as I do. Conversley, when I need a reality check, and to stop focusing on anger and disappointment, there are always those with more reasoned and broader outlooks, who can remind us to shake it off, get over it, and return focus onto the goal.

Thanks Murray.

[evolin]

Till now if you still have that fear, nobody here can convince you to change your mind. You have to change it yourself.

Do anything that you can think of to overcome that fear. Call HRC campaign, ask them how much debt they have left, call DNC, research the election law. Whatever it takes to help you remove your doubt. That is the least productive thing you can do to help Hillary at this stage.

If you listen to her yesterday, there was an extreme urgency in her voice when she talked about that the campaign must repay the vendor.
This political scene has been so corrupted and so many bad things have transpired, that my trust of the system has been eroded.
Yes, I will try to reasure myself this is really going to her debt before I contribute again.
The very fact that the Obama team has confiscated her web site,and my adddress for snail mail and email has made me cautious.
I want none of my funds to go to help him in any way.

[shadow]

This is strictly my personal situation, but I tend to ignore threads about media tv people, because I don't have access to those shows, I don't know who those news people being discussed are. These tv people bore me to tears anyway and I do not need them telling me who to vote for.

I also skip very long posts. That is my medical issues at work. I see a very long post, think "tldr" and move on.

[BooskerD]

Anything about religion or Obama being a muslim.

[Les33]

Posts that say: if not Hillary you must vote for McCain or else

Posts that denigrate people in mean-spirited ways (which Murray is good about keeping on top of)

[mjno7777]

I prefer threads that make note of MSM articles that advance our cause in one way or another. Obviously pro Hillary articles are great. At the moment the ones that show the media (ever so slowly) starting to go after Obama are great too. I know that sounds negative, but the more we see the MSM exposing him the more our case will make sense to the general public.


I second this. Also, I have no interest in MO, let's agree to NOT post anything on her unless it is the WHITEY TAPE.

[thebword]

I agree with number 4 with a few things added: In these type of threads there also tend to be about 100 posts where people "agree" with each other. Then if someone posts a different opinion that person gets a chorus of "I disagree" posts.... personally I want to hear different perspectives and new and different thoughts (preferably rational and logical responses to posts rather emotional responses to posts that aren't personal). I'm not saying I want radical posts...just ones with some different twists or perspectives would be nice (of course Hillary first...no need for anyone to reiterate that...tell me some new reasons why!).

:DDitto, couldn't agree more.:D

Sorry, it was too good to pass up.:D Seriously, I have not time for threads that are just gossip. I come here for the links to the REAL information that the MSM is not reporting, a reference tool. I also use the Forum as a community, to help reassure myself that I am not alone. To that vain I would love to see more threads on organizing ourselves and being a source of ideas that can really help expose Obama to the rest of the country.

[CGP]

Sometimes it's just the title of a thread that annoys me. "Must Read" "Breaking News" ... I don't like the hype, especially if it isn't a "Must Read" or it isn't "Breaking News" ...

Agree. Especially if there is no corresponding description of what the thread is about. There are so many threads that people have to make choices about what they read or do not read. A title that says nothing other than "must read" ironically usually leads me to not read it!

[Dendy]

“The Bomb” and Conspiracy theory threads about Obama and Hillary.
I don’t like when I get false hopes and ideas of events and happenings that never materialize.
I don’t like getting into hypotheticals and I certainly don’t like being disappointed when they don’t happen.

[hillary1]

Many topics get discussed on this forum. We all have our favorite topics that we like to comment on. And then there are those topics that we may have no interest in at all! I'd like to know - which topics do you roll your eyes at? I know there are a few topics that I have zero interest in and which get the eye rolling treatment from me!

I will start...

My number one "not interested" topic? MICHELLE OBAMA

I have no interest. And no opinion, either positive or negative. I know she is a popular discussion point for many both in this forum and all across the Internet. But talking about her just doesn't interest me. If anything, I feel sorry for her.

So which topic/s do not interest you or annoy you?!?

POLLS

tired of polls, numbers are deceiving, polls are deceiving, who is being asked, why, where, gender, there are so many facets that make up poll numbers, you ask one group they like this one, another group, they like the other party
they are misleading, only the media like to pound them out perhaps to influence those who haven't voted

however, what one finds out of favor, another may not, we all find our interests in different threads, i think being repetitive in the thread gets tiresome, and how much can one say on the subject when its been rummaged through time and time again

my interests are on hillary, not even on obama, all these threads that threaten the candidacy of obama, well it has not happened, and more than likely it will not

we may very well face the fact, obama will be the choice of the dnc, like it or not, now its time to ask yourself who do you support, will it be the democratic party or the republican party

for me, as it was put by one pub, john mccain has been a thorn in the republican party's side since day one, for me thats good, this is a man who has stood up to his principles, he has shown me integrity, and character, he has given much for his country, he may not be 100% right, but, better than the party of the people, the dems, NOT, who have lied their way with a fraudulent candidate in obama rather than someone who has fought her entire political life for all the people and the disenfranchised, hillary clinton

the dems today are no better than the pubs under george bush these past eight years, this is a downward spiral with obama, and the pubs will be laughing all the way to 2012 when again they will take the white house, but each passing year with these political whores the country gets worse

[Molly]

Anything NEGATIVE concerning obama - that is a FACT - not opinion.
ALL POSITIVE FACTS concerning HILLARY - and how she will WIN the White House - and what we can do to HELP her.

Could care less about his wife - michelle

[Calico]

The type of threads that I would like to see more of:

1. Plans of action about how we will get Hillary nominated at the convention and as President in November. The time is ticking, we must do something now.

We need a plan to reach the general population across America. I have seen threads that contain great suggestions and information get “buried” and never seen again. And, great threads get completely off-topic. Concrete action plans with organization should be a priority.

2. News articles with cited sources are one of the first things that I read. We need to keep informed as to what the msm is saying.

3. Also, I read, any thread containing information/research concerning BO, from the his past to his present. We need to learn all we can about this man.

The type of threads that are my least favorite:

1. A thread that does not have complete information in the title. I tend pass over these or wait to last to look at them. There are so many threads, it is difficult to read them all.

2. Threads about celebrities are typically just “puff” pieces. In some cases, it is relevant. Example, how Oprah’s support of BO has affected her ratings and how her audience, of mostly women, perceive her now.

3. Threads that concern McCain. If BO is the nominee, then I will support and vote for McCain. Until then, I would like to concentrate on BO not being the nominee and how that will happen.

4. Threads that are not realistic. Although, at one time, emailing/calling SD and Dean was a good thing to do, now it is obvious that will not change their minds. It would take millions of e-mails and telephone calls from different people to change the minds of the Super Delegates and Dean.

More realistically, Dean and the Super Delegates need to see actual things happen in the general population that will cause them to change their mind. For example, Kerry losing the primary; seeing this grassroots campaign for Hillary and to take back the Democratic Party take off and be successful; the public “talking” about the corruptness that has taken over the Party; and the truth about BO getting to the general public.

In conclusion, I feel that we need to find a way to reach the public and get our message out. In addition to the Internet savvy, we need to reach another segment of the population. Not everyone has Internet access or has access to MSM. These are the people we need to reach. These are the people that can make a difference. There is power in numbers, we need to reach these people. A organized grassroots campaign should be a priority. And, we can’t wait. The clock is running and time is running out. The convention will be here soon.

[wasGOPnowInd]

I want to read anything that shows the Obama facade is cracking. First of all, it provides hope that things are changing, and secondly, it allows us to share things with other groups that might help the cause.
Action alerts, including rasing money for Hillary, but most importantly, on the March plans, and our other efforts to get her nominated.


What I don't want to see...


I agree, anything on Michelle - don't care.
Anything to do with voting for Obama - forget it. As far as I am concerned, if you feel that way, leave!

[wasGOPnowInd]

I think it is important that we show up at McCain rallys, and other events where the MSM is likely to be. This is the best way, I believe, to get the message across to the DNC that we are serious, and that they need to make a change in the nominee, of face losing the election. For that reason, I think posts related to McCain press/photo OPs are key to our success.

[Musicdude]

Threads with nothing but a link, in the first post...I do NOT read.
Same goes for video clips. If it's worthy of review, then prove it. Spend time explaining it's important, and post quotes from it. Most members are good about doing so, but there are a few that aren't

[brussell]

I like threads that start out with facts/articles/action items.

It might be good to have a separate lounge for vetting and blowing off steam to keep it out of the main room. This forum is well-known and we don't want to come across as sore losers.

We need to post stuff that will help Hillary get the nomination in August. This includes the truth about delegate counts, popular vote, how the Dem convention works, first ballot, second ballot, the rules and how the DNC is changing them as they go. I just learned that super delegates can be added but I don't have a source yet.

[Bacio83]

I like articles that pertain to HRC, also negative BO ones make me smile too but from reputable sources. Anything that pertains to the PUMA movement is golden.

I don't like MO articles until the stupid tape is released that is. I don't like blogish posts... if I wanted to read a blog... I'd read a blog :p Also conspiracy theory posts are annoying too they fall in the blog category IMO.

[samkm]

I like threads that start with published facts with source cited both at the top and at the bottom. Preferably there is little to no opinion added. All opinion can be added by the same author in the very next post.

I dislike - mere agreement, only moticon thread and many shortforms (which I dont understand anyway).

Disliked topics:
- MO (unless hospital & dollar connections, conflict of interest with healthcare reform)
- Oprah (I skip it everytime)
- The View (I skipped even this week's)
- Excessive focus on Brazille. She feeds off of it. Cover the facts. Dont react.
- Opinion not prefaced as opinion. Person posting needs to help the other members interpret the post easily and quickly.
- mere agreement, without adding info/narrowing scope of agreement.
- mere disagreement without clarification.. Unless the matter is really significant, there is no need to voice it. We dont need to put a breadcrumb everywhere.

Insufficient discussion/coverage:
1. Power structure (positional, influence in House & Senate) and their inter-play.
We just saw it coming up with FEC discussion yesterday. Harry Reid (D-NV) has massive positional power and is at the top of the power structure and the FEC story helped me understand why. The power is coming from both DNC and FEC positions. Understanding this will help us know what is at play.
2. Lack of looking back into history on occasion. I find there are historic published material that are germane that we seem to miss; when we hit a news topic, we need to broaden our search to appropriate geography and time period. Not easy to do but gives you great nuggets of info.

Most annoying
1. New threads on same news item (threads being started without search)
2. Threads being used as chat rooms (without being pre-assigned as discussion thread for specific purposes)
3. Huge wasted space because the header and signature intervenes in reading (rather than being on the far left and far right) resulting in a LOT of scrolling. Black background is harsh on the eye because of the high contrast (eyes look for contrast and constantly try to make sense from it.. it is a cognitive function to look for edges and corners).

Most lacking feature
1. When I search by topic, while the result pulls up the thread, I have no idea where in the thread it is, even when I search by Username, without scrolling through entire thread.
2. Side room where postings can be developed before publishing. Each posting should get a few member endorsements before they go out to Main, I believe.
3. A Newsroom frontal look to Main would have been nice, but may not be consistent with this Forum.

Most useful feature
1. I can quote a thread, copy it and paste it into p.m. that way when the person responds (if they keep the original mail), I know exactly which thread and which post it is referencing. I have begun to use this more often.
2. Absence of trolls ==> relative safety in developing concepts and discussing new topics in the context of history. Perspective is important without having to be guarded at all times from a contrarian perspective being guised into our discussion.
3. "New threads" button. Very nice.

HIGHEST ANNOYANCE
1. LOOONG posts being quoted blindly in a following post. Unnecessary. Makes it impossible for original person posting to edit any mistake/private info they spilled by mistake. Very annoying to come across that we simply have to scroll past.
2. A thread previously visited.. I cannot go directly to the place where I last left off, even when it is where I last posted something. I scroll up and down.

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I don't like threads with a Hillary is being pressured but noone really knows this? Is she being physically threatened and if she is then why is the Bush adminstration being told of this? I do not know if she is being physically threatened but I do know that she is considered a National Treasure and therefore if she is being threatened then why is the President not being informed of this. I can understand political pressure but noone really states which kind of pressure that she is undergoing. I also do not like the Anti Christ story because I believe its crap. I love the fighting back posts rather or not I agree with the actual action the fact that you are fighting back is positive even if I disagree with the way you are fighting back.

[CGP]

Many great responses above. Thanks for the input!

Keep the responses coming...

[hills]

Michelle Obama does not interest me at all! I think we sound like hypocrits when we talk about sexism but we trash talk Michelle. However, I understand she is fair game by her controversial statements!


Me too.

[KYWildcatFan]

I have not had much time to visit the forum lately. I am in the process of buying my daughter a home and anyone who has bought a home knows what I mean.

However, I do stop in at least two to three times a day. Seeing as I am not able to be here as much as I was I have become a little more selective in viewing posts. I do not look at posts about "bombs" any more. I guess I am just sick of words and want action.

The threads I do view are ones that have articles in the thread. Those I find interesting and informative. I also read posts that are written by forum members I truly respect and appreciate. And when I do view posts I usually look for some of my favorite members postings. I can go to some members post to get to the heart of the matter and that really helps me right now with my life being so busy.

Yet, when I did have time there was not one post I would not read. I find all of them interesting to some point and I love reading what our forum members think.

As far as MO goes..........well to be honest I like reading post about her. She treated the Clinton's horribly and I think she deserves what she so delightfully dished out.

Oprah I could careless about. I have never been a fan of hers nor will I ever be. I feel the same about The View.

I also feel that as long as threads are not mean towards the Clinton's, her supporters and we her foot army then I usually do not have a problem with them. Murray and the Mods do a fantastic job at cleaning up the sludge on the forum.

I think it is important that we stick to the issues, work as a team, and do all we can to promote Hillary and if need be if Hillary does not ride out as the nominee in Denver then we work our hearts out for McCain.

As long as threads are civil and posts are civil I really don't have a problem with them. I do not like a bunch of cursing nor slang talk, I usually pass by those posts. I don't mind a bad word now and then as long as it's not the whole post. Slang just annoys me and I feel the poster is losing a large audience by not making clear points that everyone can understand. Yet, I recognize the right to free speech and freedom of opinion so even if I don't like it I do not want anyone to change their writing skills.

[braane]

I think we should expose everyone! Michelle, barack... I could care less. Attacking michelle doesnt make it racism/sexism and not attacking her is giving her the benefit of the doubt because she is female. Barack gets attacked, so should michelle. That is the bottom line.

[Bad Kitty]

I think I feel the same as many of you....everytime I see MO's so called new image posts or The View or its hosts I cringe.

[Brooke]

Here are just a few:

-Threads on Michelle Obama don't really interest me
-All the online polls..they're constantly overridden by the Obama bots and really don't have any effect.
-"The bomb" threads. Nothing has materialized yet. We all know something's coming, we don't need fifty billion threads about it
-Threads about contacting Dean or the DNC. I know we've all tried but really it's a dead end it's past time we spend our efforts elsewhere to get them the message.

And lastly, and this is a HUGE annoyance for me..

-Threads discussing tabloid trash that have to do with Bill. Yes, I've posted in it, just to be defensive. But they serve no purpose here and everybody gets all riled up thinking the Obama campaign's behind it. Unfortunately, Bill's past has always fueled the stigma, but it doesn't help us here and as true Clinton supporters, we should be ignoring it. It's trash, plain and simple. The only reason I get upset is because I sometimes feel people here actually believe this garbage.

Threads I'd like to see:

-Mobilizing for PUMA and Just Say No Deal
-Retiring Hillary's Debt (I can't help right now but I'm willing to encourage everybody else to)
-Helping on ideas for Denver. Won't be able to be there myself but I'm willing to do what I can from here
-Helping the McCain campaign and posting any articles that are positive about him or about HRC supporters supporting him. This I have been involved in doing myself and it's been quite helpful.
-Any news that relates to the election and supports what we all believe about Obama or the DNC.

[Area504]

My interests vary from day to day, depending on what's hot in the news.

As for Michelle Obama, she made herself to be a political figure, so criticism of her is fair game. We know sexism when we see it and hear it; it's not automatically sexist to criticize her anymore than it is racist to criticize her or her husband.

[houna]

1. larry sinclair
2. MO
3. whether he is a muslim or not

[CGP]

We know sexism when we see it and hear it; it's not automatically sexist to criticize her anymore than it is racist to criticize her or her husband.

True.

[Alex01]

The number one topic that I am not interested in:

THE FACT THAT ED HALE NEEDS MO' MONEY!!! He sounds like a conman, and I don't think he should be raising funds here.

As far as Michelle is concerned: I love hearing about her, because it gives me more ammunition against the two of them. Someone gave a good analogy concerning her yesterday:

Saying you're proud of your country for the first time in your adult life is like saying "You know, I love you for the first time" after being married for several decades." It's sad, pathetic, disgusting, and ridiculous, not to mention unpatriotic.

She should be nowhere near the White House, and everyone in the country needs to be told or reminded about that as often as possible. Except you, Murray. I give you a special dispensation.:)

I'll tell you who I'm sick of hearing about: Obama! I'm sick of his name, I'm sick of his face, I'm sick of his voice, I'm sick of his lies and hypocrisy. Is there some way we could win the nomination for Hillary WITHOUT discussing BO (I'm just kidding, of course - but it was a nice 10-second fantasy;)).

[hipelayne]

Many topics get discussed on this forum. We all have our favorite topics that we like to comment on. And then there are those topics that we may have no interest in at all! I'd like to know - which topics do you roll your eyes at? I know there are a few topics that I have zero interest in and which get the eye rolling treatment from me!

I will start...

My number one "not interested" topic? MICHELLE OBAMA

I have no interest. And no opinion, either positive or negative. I know she is a popular discussion point for many both in this forum and all across the Internet. But talking about her just doesn't interest me. If anything, I feel sorry for her.

So which topic/s do not interest you or annoy you?!?


I totally agree - I have no desire to even look at anything that has her name attached to it. I didn't care about her being on The View, I don't care about her thesis, even the "Whitey" tape doesn't interest me! Just not interested in her - period!

[Tea toaD]

My least favorite is the number of Whitey Tapes. I don't mind them but for awhile it was a bit much. I don't read the things that don't have a title that is clear unless it's changed and fixed by a Mod.

The Obama news articles that are critiquing him are my favorite to read.

I MISS Hillary Primary news articles:confused:

[Brooke]

I MISS Hillary Primary news articles:confused:

Me too...me too... I miss all the campaign pictures and stuff.

[teachgrd3]

First, I'd like to thank Murray for this forum, without which I would have been a nervous wreck months ago. I find that I come here for different reasons all the time, and probably others do also: to share something, for the latest news(it's always here immediately!), to lift my spirits and give me hope, or just to relax.

That said, the topics I'm interested are always changing, depending on what's currently in the news, or what's new with the movement to support Hillary and oppose Obama....almost anything that gives me hope!

I don't mind the Michelle stories when it's something that has a possible effect on the campaign.

Some of my favorite threads have been the postings during the debates..... they were fun!

I also really, really, enjoy when posts are written with humor. Many times I have just cracked up while reading through a thread..... some people have a great sense of humor!

[ILBlue]

Well I know I"m voting for McCain if not Hillary but I don't like McCain so I don't like to see too many stories going on and on about him.

I will not give money to him either. So I say let the real Republicans give him money I don't want to be on his email lists or his website either.

Might feel differant about that after the convention but till then not real interested in him, since I'm not a republican . And of course I want him to beat BO, but doesn't mean I have to like him . He is just the lesser of two evils to me.

Everything else is ok.

Would request since I have dial up that when people post video's they please explain alittle more about them.

Thank you for asking !

[CT-Hilltopper]

I'm tired of the speculation concerning the "whitey tapes". If anyone has the tape, bring it on. If not, I'd rather not hear about it.

I think we do need to be social here and keep each other's spirits up. I think we need more threads about the constructive things that we can do to keep the pressure on, because I love to see Dean, Obama, and the DNC squirm. I think they are downplaying our numbers in the MSM, but I believe that the letters and e-mails are starting to get to them.

Sending monopoly money to them in response to their donation requests is a great idea, and we need to keep coming up with new, fresh, things to make our point. Half checks too, and half credit card numbers. Great ideas.

[Kbentleyis]

Well, I feel if there is something I don't like, I won't click on it. I can't express my opinion about subjects because it would be just my opinion. And, that's not what this forum is about. Everyone has something that they feel is important to them and someone else, so it should be their choice. Not mine.

I'd like the freedom of everyone's subject continue.

Thanks, Murray

[ScottVA]

I agree with number 4 with a few things added: In these type of threads there also tend to be about 100 posts where people "agree" with each other. Then if someone posts a different opinion that person gets a chorus of "I disagree" posts.... personally I want to hear different perspectives and new and different thoughts (preferably rational and logical responses to posts rather emotional responses to posts that aren't personal). I'm not saying I want radical posts...just ones with some different twists or perspectives would be nice (of course Hillary first...no need for anyone to reiterate that...tell me some new reasons why!).

THIS IS TRUE! HOWEVER I SEE A LOT OF MISINFORMATION IN THIS FORUM! So I think it's RIGHT to set some people straight! LOL

[ScottVA]

Well, I feel if there is something I don't like, I won't click on it. I can't express my opinion about subjects because it would be just my opinion. And, that's not what this forum is about. Everyone has something that they feel is important to them and someone else, so it should be their choice. Not mine.

I'd like the freedom of everyone's subject continue.

Thanks, Murray

YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT! If you don't want to read something.........DONT CLICK ON IT! LOL It's like the TV if you don't want to watch it DONT TURN IT ON!

[ScottVA]

I PERSONALLY think that many people that come in here SHOULD BE MORE REALISTIC about what is going on....

I am A DIEHARD CLINTON SUPPORTER! I fundraised for her and personally gave her money to both her Primary (maxing out the contribution) and also some to her GE fund too!

NOW, that said........ and as much as I'm all for seeing positive Clinton stuff............the REALISTIC aspect has to kick on for some people as to what is POSSIBLE, at this point, for her in a political realm!

I've been around politics and law for a long while here in DC. I can tell you that I don't see her getting the nomination! You have to understand now that she is in suspension there is only so much she can do... basically she can only sit back and wait for something to knock him out before the Convention! Barring a major bomb I see him getting the nomination regardless of her still having some leverage against him. All we can do is BLOG AND BLOG and talk about EVERYTHING possible that paints him into a negative box! Now saying that it also has to have some truthful aspect behind it too... It allows anyone new coming in here to read it... that much more apt at understanding where others are coming from in here. This could sway a persons decision about him if they're fencing sitting... which I'm sure millions of voters are right now!

I think all realistic material shoud be on the table in here....
Whether you agree or disagree with it!

[Tea toaD]

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/576791.html


Summoning a time of political upheaval in Miami, a great-uncle of Elián González plans Friday to publicly denounce two Barack Obama campaign advisors who helped send the boy back to his father in Cuba eight years ago.
One day before the expected Democratic nominee addresses a conference of mayors in Miami, Delfín González will hold a 1 p.m. news conference outside the Little Havana home where Elián lived with relatives for several months in 2000.
Earlier this week, CNN reported that Elián, now 14 years old, has joined Cuba's Young Communist Union. Obama was an Illinois lawmaker during the 2000 dispute and did not take a public position.

[CT-Hilltopper]

Well, I feel if there is something I don't like, I won't click on it. I can't express my opinion about subjects because it would be just my opinion. And, that's not what this forum is about. Everyone has something that they feel is important to them and someone else, so it should be their choice. Not mine.

I'd like the freedom of everyone's subject continue.

Thanks, Murray

That's true.

I don't click on the "whitey" threads anymore. But I don't want people who enjoy speculating about it to be done out of anything that they enjoy.

P.S. If they actually do come out with the "whitey" tape, please mark it clearly when you post the thread, because I wouldn't miss it for the world.;)

[Brooke]

I have to agree with Scott. I lived in DC for a long time and I've seen a lot, much like Scott has. But what living in DC has taught me is that ANYTHING can happen. I lived through so much crap down there that nothing surprised me, and nothing surprises me still. So while I am being realistic about all of this, I still think that anything's possible.

The Elian thing drove me crazy. I was in DC when all that was going down and I was DEEPLY against sending him back. And now look, he's become a member of Castro's regime.

[CT-Hilltopper]

I am A DIEHARD CLINTON SUPPORTER! I fundraised for her and personally gave her money to both her Primary (maxing out the contribution) and also some to her GE fund too!
I've been around politics and law for a long while here in DC. I can tell you that I don't see her getting the nomination! You have to understand now that she is in suspension there is only so much she can do... basically she can only sit back and wait for something to knock him out before the Convention! Barring a major bomb I see him getting the nomination regardless of her still having some leverage against him. All we can do is BLOG AND BLOG and talk about EVERYTHING possible that paints him into a negative box!

I'm not a novice to politics, although I haven't been as active on the ground as I was a few years ago. Unfortunately, I see the reality of what Scott is saying. I know deep in my heart that as much as I want to see Hillary as President in 2008 that my vote will most likely be going to John McCain.

I'm just hoping that by people like us nipping at his heels, we can jar something loose that will forever alter his "change" and give Hillary her chance. But I am old enough to know that in actuality that probably is not going to happen.

Ironically, even after acknowledging all of this, I'm not ready to give up. I think that little glimmer of hope is what keeps a lot of us here and involved.

I know that sounds a bit contradictory.

[Angelica91]

I think the truth comes to destroy our minds!
We know it's too hard, probably Hillary hasn't any plane, she won't go to Denver to get nomination. But One thing I say is...Hillary always told us we would have gone to Denver and ...YES WE WILL WE WILL WIN THE NOMINATION AND THE WHITE HOUSE.

I agree with you, Scotty, but if it won't happen it'll be a dissapoinment, above all because Hillary promised that to us!

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Many topics get discussed on this forum. We all have our favorite topics that we like to comment on. And then there are those topics that we may have no interest in at all! I'd like to know - which topics do you roll your eyes at? I know there are a few topics that I have zero interest in and which get the eye rolling treatment from me!

I will start...

My number one "not interested" topic? MICHELLE OBAMA

I have no interest. And no opinion, either positive or negative. I know she is a popular discussion point for many both in this forum and all across the Internet. But talking about her just doesn't interest me. If anything, I feel sorry for her.

So which topic/s do not interest you or annoy you?!?
In some subtle, heretofore unspoken way, I knew you felt this way! ROFL!

I guess I have never considered her to be a person I could feel sorry for.

I do find SOME posts about Mrs. Obama of interest. Obviously, any posts which might reference anything about her personally, I find offensive, other than her words and actions. Because she, the media, the campaign, and her husband have made her front and center in this sideshow...uh..er... campaign, I think we all need to hear what she has to say. After all, a POTENTIAL first lady has always come under the glare of media and voter scrutiny.

She also has THE POTENTIAL to be a liability to the Obama campaign, and the more she talks, (especially in more unscripted off-the-cuff
types of venues) (as well as those where she is off-camera) the more apt she is to speak candidly. Of course, this is true for both of them! If you notice, "Sweetie, I'll get to you in a minute" and "Just let me eat my waffle" etc. When he does not have a handler feeding him scripted info to his ear or reading from a teleprompter, Sen Obama has difficulty articulating his ideas to reporters questions and sometimes even delivering his "canned speeches"

I do think it might be a good idea to have a "room" or "balcony view" whatever, where topics can be discussed which might be of more "human interest" views. Some of the people who post on this forum are hilarious, sometimes when they do not even mean to be. I guess I enjoy reading a variety of posters and topics. I am going to comment on other topics as I scroll down through the posts!:D:rolleyes:;):cool:

[lovehillary]

Well, the problem with not talking about Michelle Obama is that you can't ever criticize either of the Obamas anywhere else, so then people are stuck with their anger.

I just click on the threads that interest me and ignore the ones that don't. It's good to know what's going on, so I wouldn't say any of it annoys me. It seems like there's something here for everyone.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

Threads I like are the one we can build upon. Ones that we can use to get together a portfolio of information to use to help Hillary. There are so many things on the net that we have not even researched yet. Had a guy from Chicago say that if the media would research the old stuff they would find Obama in the middle of the corruption..so I now am looking at the old.

Least favorite is when things start getting irrational as that does not solve anything.

I am interested in this. I would love to have a list of sites or areas to research. I have no idea what most of the people who post on the forum do for a living, but I suspect there are people who are professional writers, armchair political analysts, and experts in a variety of fields in which they could educate the rest of us about a variety of fascinating topics. I think many of us want to learn more about pertinent political information. I have learned a tremendous amount about the campaigns, the process, etc. since joining this forum.

Perhaps I missed this when I was not paying attention, but I feel it would be helpful to have a simple explanation when a post is removed. I think only a couple of my posts have been deleted, since joining the forum, and that maybe they were deleted when a whole thread was deleted, but generally, I try to be a courteous poster. I have a live and let live philosophy, and try to be respectful of all opinions. SO WHERE IN THE HELL DID THOSE POSTS GO?:D:rolleyes::(:eek::cool:

[NewHamster]

I don't care one hoot about Obama's (or McCain's, or Hillary's, or Bill's, etc.) sex life.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

I PERSONALLY think that many people that come in here SHOULD BE MORE REALISTIC about what is going on....

I am A DIEHARD CLINTON SUPPORTER! I fundraised for her and personally gave her money to both her Primary (maxing out the contribution) and also some to her GE fund too!

NOW, that said........ and as much as I'm all for seeing positive Clinton stuff............the REALISTIC aspect has to kick on for some people as to what is POSSIBLE, at this point, for her in a political realm!

I've been around politics and law for a long while here in DC. I can tell you that I don't see her getting the nomination! You have to understand now that she is in suspension there is only so much she can do... basically she can only sit back and wait for something to knock him out before the Convention! Barring a major bomb I see him getting the nomination regardless of her still having some leverage against him. All we can do is BLOG AND BLOG and talk about EVERYTHING possible that paints him into a negative box! Now saying that it also has to have some truthful aspect behind it too... It allows anyone new coming in here to read it... that much more apt at understanding where others are coming from in here. This could sway a persons decision about him if they're fencing sitting... which I'm sure millions of voters are right now!

I think all realistic material shoud be on the table in here....
Whether you agree or disagree with it!

NO, NO, NO SCOTTVA....TAKE IT BACK! SAY IT AIN'T SO! Many of us look to you, to be one of the people on this forum, REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO HEAR IT, that yes, indeed Senator Clinton will take this to Denver, and she will BE THE NOMINEE. Many of us come here several times a day, because we are looking for the latest information about the campaign. I KNOW HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. There are just too many indications "OUT THERE" that make me know this is true! BTW, A post I made on this topic yesterday was deleted?!?!? Hummmm...I cannot imagine why!

[ScottVA]

NO, NO, NO SCOTTVA....TAKE IT BACK! SAY IT AIN'T SO! Many of us look to you, to be one of the people on this forum, REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO HEAR IT, that yes, indeed Senator Clinton will take this to Denver, and she will BE THE NOMINEE. Many of us come here several times a day, because we are looking for the latest information about the campaign. I KNOW HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. There are just too many indications "OUT THERE" that make me know this is true! BTW, A post I made on this topic yesterday was deleted?!?!? Hummmm...I cannot imagine why!


OH BELIEVE ME.... ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.... I want her to end up with the nomination too! I was just being realistic with my assessment... I'm holding my money back for McCain until I see what happens but I'll max him out once I see if the 'messiah' is crowned in August...

[Oregonian4Hill]

once I see if the 'messiah' is crowned in August...

I'm holding on to that magic word "if."

I'm going to wait until after August to be realistic. In the meantime, I'll write, call, donate, do my daily actions for Clinton Dems. When I read things that say people don't think Clinton can get the nomination, I get discouraged.

And to keep this from going too far off-topic, I usually skip over threads that have anything to do with The View, BO as Muslim, astrology/numerology, or anything that has a title like, "CNN says Obama is the Messiah. :mad:"

[ALL4HILLARY]

Michelle Obama does not interest me at all! I think we sound like hypocrits when we talk about sexism but we trash talk Michelle. However, I understand she is fair game by her controversial statements!

We trash talk Michelle because she is a hatefull person, with values straight out of Pastor Wright mouth. Again I ephasize person which is neutral(not sexism here) only the believes and statements of a person. The same way we are not voting for Mccain because we hate Obama or because his is Black as he wants us to do, but because the facts speak for the selves about this person. So again discusion about Obama's wife is more important to me than the discusion about his pastor. This is a serious matter guys

[ScottVA]

I'm holding on to that magic word "if."

I'm going to wait until after August to be realistic. In the meantime, I'll write, call, donate, do my daily actions for Clinton Dems. When I read things that say people don't think Clinton can get the nomination, I get discouraged.

And to keep this from going too far off-topic, I usually skip over threads that have anything to do with The View, BO as Muslim, astrology/numerology, or anything that has a title like, "CNN says Obama is the Messiah. :mad:"


That's my point about being realistic... Clinton has stepped aside and even keeping her delegates she'd need a HUGE amount of his SD's to turn on him. I don't see it happening unless a big bomb drops on him before the Convention. I can tell you the GOP will not do any major damage to him until he's secured the nomination in August. Clinton herself even knows what she's up against at this point.... that's why her priority is to get her debt paid off right now. That's about all she can do.... We were just so lucky that she had 15 million bucks of her own money to put into this thing....otherwise he would have outspent her back in March... that was his plan the whole time. He underestimated her using so much of her own money to keep her in until the end...

[VotingHillary]

Even though I satarized him in another thread...I don't give a damn what Keith Olbermann has to say...let's keep his arrogant self out of this forum...and Obama's like-self out of the White House.

[ZY123]

THIS IS TRUE! HOWEVER I SEE A LOT OF MISINFORMATION IN THIS FORUM! So I think it's RIGHT to set some people straight! LOL

I think we're talking about two different things....based on what I think you're talking about I agree. One of the best things about this forum is getting the real information out there instead of what the MSM is feeding people.

[hillary4change]

Least favorite is mo, I could care less. No. 1 least favorite is negativity.
ie: Woah is me! Complaining! I can't stand it.

Most favorite, news articles, Pro-Hillary stuff. Action type things. Funny things too!
I love positive, revealing , and/or funny videos too.

[monirod]

Typically in any forum, threads that are not of interest fall by the wayside because no one replies and few even read the thread. For instance, if MO was not fair game, no one would respond or even click on the thread to read it.

That said, my least favorite threads are the ones that "claim" new developments on an ongoing story, but when you read the first post, there is nothing factually new at all. It's just more speculation about a "maybe" situation. I prefer not to see another "whitey" tape thread, until I release the tape. Ooops. I mean, until such tape actually shows up. :eek:

I agree, what I like about this Forum is the democratic nature of it -- you know, kinda like our Party used to be? Everyone has a voice, as long as it's within the parameters of the Forum, of course. I like that we have a place where people agree with one another and can openly state it, or if they disagree, can also air that out here safely. Anyway, threads of no interest generally fall to the wayside, and inappropriate ones are quickly deleted by our wonderful moderators. So, if there's a movement toward restricting the content, I hope that doesn't happen. There seems to be enough restrictions on information out in the MSM, IMO, we don't need that here, too.

And, musicdude, enough with the teasing, already -- we want whitey!!!!:D

[CGP]

So, if there's a movement toward restricting the content, I hope that doesn't happen.

No, that's not the intention behind the thread. I started it really as "light relief", to hear from others about what topics they roll their eyes at! The thread has turned into something much bigger and it contains lots of useful info, ideas and perspectives.

[ZY123]

No, that's not the intention behind the thread. I started it really as "light relief", to hear from others about what topics they roll their eyes at! The thread has turned into something much bigger and it contains lots of useful info, ideas and perspectives.

Do you believe that forums can become self restrictive? (I'm asking in the general sense.)

[CGP]

Do you believe that forums can become self restrictive? (I'm asking...in the general sense.)

Yes, definitely, but it's kind of unavoidable. If a dominant view emerges about a particular topic, those with an opposing view may be less likely to challenge and present their different point of view - especially if they are not the kind of person to speak up. The same thing happens "out there" in the non-Internet world - certain views become dominant and those who don't share that view either (a) speak up & challenge or (b) stick around but stay silent or (c) avoid the confrontation & move on to a more like-minded group of people.

[ZY123]

Yes, definitely, but it's kind of unavoidable. If a dominant view emerges about a particular topic, those with an opposing view may be less likely to challenge and present their different point of view - especially if they are not the kind of person to speak up. The same thing happens "out there" in the non-Internet world - certain views become dominant and those who don't share that view either (a) speak up & challenge or (b) stick around but stay silent or (c) avoid the confrontation & move on to a more like-minded group of people.

I think it's a hard line to define, but I think the Internet is more susceptible to self restriction than the real world because on the Internet people feel invisible in a sense, so they are more likely when sharing the dominant view to squash the less dominant one (and usually the more interesting one...not always of course). I feel like an Internet society is a real world society on steroids...the negative can be much worse but on the flip side the positive can be much more positive. I think the line blurs if the dominant view becomes too black and white instead of a nice shade of gray.

At this point in time I have to agree that it's unavoidable, but it would be nice if it wasn't...more views and more perspectives lead to more intelligent conversation and more enlightened people IMHO. The only way it can be avoided I think is if each individual makes an effort to do so...a next to impossible undertaking.

EDIT: Groups b and c can be very interesting people - I'd love to hear from them more. =)

[monirod]

Do you believe that forums can become self restrictive? (I'm asking in the general sense.)

Luckily, as I think we have seen in this thread and throughout the Forum's existence, we are not very restrictive with appropriate content. But, within the context of the Forum, I think we have a very open place to inform, discuss, and take action. It's one of the most informational forum/blogs I have ever seen. It is human nature to go towards what we have in common with others and move away from those we don't. Just like the mass exodus most of us did from HuffPo and DailyKos, etc. Kudos to Murray for getting this off the ground and for all our members for keeping it going.

Originally posted by Murray No, that's not the intention behind the thread. Phew! Thanks Murray, I thought maybe we were using up all the cyberspace and we had to cut back! :D:D

[CGP]

I think it's a hard line to define, but I think the Internet is more susceptible to self restriction than the real world because on the Internet people feel invisible in a sense, so they are more likely when sharing the dominant view to squash the less dominant one (and usually the more interesting one...not always of course). I feel like an Internet society is a real world society on steroids...the negative can be much worse but on the flip side the positive can be much more positive. I think the line blurs if the dominant view becomes too black and white instead of a nice shade of gray.

Isn't what you are describing at the start the opposite of self-restriction? While in the physical world people may be more reserved/contained in expressing their views, they may be less reserved/contained when expressing their views anonymously on the Internet. The "anonymity" (which is an illusion) of the Internet leads some people to feel less self-conscious in expressing their views and therefore more able to speak up. So in a sense their actual views may be the same in both settings, but the environment impacts on them differently and therefore the extent to which they express their views varies across the 2 settings. So I would say the opposite of your opening sentence - that in fact, the Internet is less suseptible to self-restriction and that people's behavior in the physical world is more susceptible to self-restriction. That being the case, it would then account for why, online, the negative becomes more negative and the positive becomes more positive. The reduction in self-restricting behavior leads to a stronger expression of a particular opinion.

[ZY123]

Isn't what you are describing at the start the opposite of self-restriction? While in the physical world people may be more reserved/contained in expressing their views, they may be less reserved/contained when expressing their views anonymously on the Internet. The "anonymity" (which is an illusion) of the Internet leads some people to feel less self-conscious in expressing their views and therefore more able to speak up. So in a sense their actual views may be the same in both settings, but the environment impacts on them differently and therefore the extent to which they express their views varies across the 2 settings. So I would say the opposite of your opening sentence - that in fact, the Internet is less suseptible to self-restriction and that people's behavior in the physical world is more susceptible to self-restriction. That being the case, it would then account for why, online, the negative becomes more negative and the positive becomes more positive. The reduction in self-restricting behavior leads to a stronger expression of a particular opinion.

Hmmm....well I agree for type A personalities for sure. However I think the effect on the more shy individual is the opposite...due to the larger amount of resistance and negativity they will receive on the Internet (due to the resistors perceiving themselves as anonymous) they're even less likely to speak up on the Internet if they have an idea that will breed resistance and more likely to follow options b or c in your original post. In fact I think that the Internet may make the people more likely to speak up in the real world louder and the people less likely to speak up in the real world even softer. I may be wrong....I do know people like that though, they tend to not be active forum posters on any forums.

The Internet is an interesting phenomena for sure....I can think of a lot of different reasons I think posters often may hold back or self censor. These ideas apply to all the different types of forums I've been on....I've tried forums on a number of different topics. =)

I definitely agree we should be like minded on the big ideas (no Obama supporters of course!) but on the details of the ideas I like the different opinions.

[CGP]

Add "Roe v Wade" to the topics I am not interested in anymore. And not because abortion issues are not important but because this R v W propaganda is being used to threaten Clinton supporters into voting for a failed candidate - Obama.

So it's on my hit list of topics to ignore.

[Alessandro Machi]

The type of threads that I would like to see more of:

1. Plans of action about how we will get Hillary nominated at the convention and as President in November. The time is ticking, we must do something now.

We need a plan to reach the general population across America. I have seen threads that contain great suggestions and information get “buried” and never seen again. And, great threads get completely off-topic. Concrete action plans with organization should be a priority.

2. News articles with cited sources are one of the first things that I read. We need to keep informed as to what the msm is saying.


That's a pretty good list.

[Laura Cereta]

I'm not interested in anything that doesn't advance the theme of Hillary 08'. I'm fine with negative BO stuff because it helps with this cause. Hillary 08' is Plan A; anything that jumps the gun to Plan B or C annoys me. One step at a time!

[ScottVA]

I'm not interested in anything that doesn't advance the theme of Hillary 08'. I'm fine with negative BO stuff because it helps with this cause. Hillary 08' is Plan A; anything that jumps the gun to Plan B or C annoys me. One step at a time!


It might annoy you but it's part of the reality of life! I'm a total realist and there's no sugar coating what's going on right now. Hillary as Prez is always the most important thing BUT you better pray for the bombs to fall on Obama before the Convention....that's the ONLY thing that's going to advance her at this point.... I'm believing that the bombs won't come for him until after September 1st unfortunately.....

[Laura Cereta]

It might annoy you but it's part of the reality of life! I'm a total realist and there's no sugar coating what's going on right now. Hillary as Prez is always the most important thing BUT you better pray for the bombs to fall on Obama before the Convention....that's the ONLY thing that's going to advance her at this point.... I'm believing that the bombs won't come for him until after September 1st unfortunately.....

Oh, I understand what you're saying and don't think my head is in the clouds somewhere; the odds of her getting the nomination aren't good. Here's the thing, though, if we all decide it's over already and don't even try, the odds are non-existent. There has been so much damage inflicted by the DNC and the BO campaign and the time to protest it in a unified movement is now. It will continue through November and possibly longer, but I believe in grabbing the opportunities of today, instead of trying to make predictions for the future and just giving up. That doesn't mean not having long term plans, it just means being tenacious, even when many people count you out, just like Hillary! :)

[Ginger4Hillary]

OH BELIEVE ME.... ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.... I want her to end up with the nomination too! I was just being realistic with my assessment... I'm holding my money back for McCain until I see what happens but I'll max him out once I see if the 'messiah' is crowned in August...

Well, I'm hoping that BO gets "crowned" in August (or before), but I don't think I'm using the same definition of crowned, somehow. :D

[santafegal]

I'm not interested in anything that doesn't advance the theme of Hillary 08'. I'm fine with negative BO stuff because it helps with this cause. Hillary 08' is Plan A; anything that jumps the gun to Plan B or C annoys me. One step at a time!

I too am totally focused on Plan A until the convention.

[thebword]

I'm not interested in any post that makes this Forum start looking like a Super Market tabloid. It diminishes our cause to promote Sen. Clinton, and to vet Obama on the legitimate issues we have for NOT voting for him. In short, they make us look like the "nut jobs hold outs" the media and the DNC are trying to paint us, so we can be dismissed and sidelined like Sen. Clinton.

[CGP]

I'm not interested in any post that makes this Forum start looking like a Super Market tabloid. It diminishes our cause to promote Sen. Clinton, and to vet Obama on the legitimate issues we have for NOT voting for him. In short, they make us look like the "nut jobs hold outs" the media and the DNC are trying to paint us, so we can be dismissed and sidelined like Sen. Clinton.

In reality, a forum with any significant number of members will always probably include elements of both high-level constructive discussion AND tabloid-style gossip. Obviously the former is the most useful but it's also hard to stop people engaging in the latter!

Personally, I much more enjoy reading constructive, well-reasoned, unemotional posts that present a solid argument. So I strongly encourage high-level discussions OVER tabloid-style gossip.

[Ace]

Tired of:

1. MO
2. Donna Brazile
3. Nader (though I'm trying to be tolerant of this. I just don't see him putting a big dent on current events.)

Agree with ClintonFan1992 on this-

Threads I'd like to see:

-Mobilizing for PUMA and Just Say No Deal
-Retiring Hillary's Debt (I can't help right now but I'm willing to encourage everybody else to)
-Helping on ideas for Denver. Won't be able to be there myself but I'm willing to do what I can from here
-Helping the McCain campaign and posting any articles that are positive about him or about HRC supporters supporting him. This I have been involved in doing myself and it's been quite helpful.
-Any news that relates to the election and supports what we all believe about Obama or the DNC.

A John McCain specific area for On-Going Discussion be great when the time comes.

[Bad Kitty]

A John McCain specific area for On-Going Discussion be great when the time comes.

I agree with this idea. :D

[CGP]

Tired of:

1. MO
2. Donna Brazile
3. Nader (though I'm trying to be tolerant of this. I just don't see him putting a big dent on current events.)

Agree with ClintonFan1992 on this-

A John McCain specific area for On-Going Discussion be great when the time comes.

Agree with 1 and 2. I think both have been discussed to breaking point!

Nader - I think anyone who can put together a presidential bid is worthy of some discusion. And for people whose interest to politics is more recent, not everyone will know his history and what he is about.

JM area - there is already a subforum for archiving JM threads but as we progress towards the general election I will be re-organizing some of the sections of this forum.

[Ace]

Agree with 1 and 2. I think both have been discussed to breaking point!

Nader - I think anyone who can put together a presidential bid is worthy of some discusion. And for people whose interest to politics is more recent, not everyone will know his history and what he is about.

Indeed. It will probably come to the point where we discuss what type of lapel pins they wear and why lol.

Nader doesn't bother me as much. He's fine.

[EsmeraldaB]

I want to know every time Michelle screws up or shows her true self. I don’t want that woman anywhere near the White House. She is not First Lady material.

I wish we as a Denver contingent would become a little more solidified. The convention is not that far away, and RHR has nothing on their board regarding updates on possible lodging. I’m afraid for those of us who haven’t booked rooms already, we’ll be staying 100 miles from Denver or be out sleeping with the REAL pumas. Otherwise I'm happy with no plan, just as long as tons of people show up for the march and then exert as much Hillary influence as possible the whole week.

I don’t like downer threads. Call me crazy, over optimistic or a dreamer but I don’t want to hear from those who have “given up”. Go cry in your beer someplace else. Until the last vote goes down on the floor of the Convention, I will continue to support the best candidate out there, i.e. Plan A. If the nightmare of BHO goes on, Plan B is already in place, but until then I’m not going to give up hope. After hope comes vengeance.

I still like hearing about sticking it to the DNC. As for letter writing, which I have been doing, whether the addressee reads them or not, somebody still has to pay someone every day to open each one of those emails or snail mails and read them, and that money comes out of the DNC budget.

Well, I feel if there is something I don't like, I won't click on it. I can't express my opinion about subjects because it would be just my opinion. And, that's not what this forum is about. Everyone has something that they feel is important to them and someone else, so it should be their choice. Not mine.

I'd like the freedom of everyone's subject continue.
I agree with Kbentleyis

I also don’t like any hint of Hillary bashing because she’s being forced to campaign for BHO. Those people can leave now. This is still a Pro-Hillary site.

[CGP]

I’m afraid for those of us who haven’t booked rooms already, we’ll be staying 100 miles from Denver or be out sleeping with the REAL pumas.

That could be a little scary! ;)