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Ace
06-20-2008, 04:41 PM
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/062008obamaweb.jpg_20080620_13_36_02_44-282-400.imageContent
Obama seen thinking about breaking US Code: Title 18,713 in above photo.

From my Blog (http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/should-obama-be-arrested-for-breaking.html):

Obama has been known to display a "personal" seal on his website (http://www.barackobama.com/images/bg.jpg) and at various campaign events.

§ 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/images/2008/06/20/economy_200.jpg

Kaylin
06-20-2008, 04:43 PM
works for me :)

Bad Kitty
06-20-2008, 04:44 PM
Where are the handcuffs?

SadStateOfAffairs
06-20-2008, 04:44 PM
Send him to the "slammer". He can campaign from there.

lalene
06-20-2008, 04:45 PM
Jailed for this? Perhaps, but I think he should be locked up for decieving the American people.

mkreyns
06-20-2008, 04:46 PM
In a heartbeat! I would love to see this. How can we make it happen?

SadStateOfAffairs
06-20-2008, 04:47 PM
From my Blog (http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/should-obama-be-arrested-for-breaking.html):

Obama has been known to display a "personal" seal on his website and at various campaign events.

§ 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

How do we file a complaint and with whom? Any ideas?

Bad Kitty
06-20-2008, 04:47 PM
In a heartbeat! I would love to see this. How can we make it happen?

Really. Who do we call first?

kjcanon
06-20-2008, 04:49 PM
Are there pictures of such? This would be GREAT if there were!!!! I can't recall any, tho. I just went to his website (then I had to go wash my hands.... and my keyboard... and my mouse...) to see if there's any such graphics. I couldn't stand the site, so I didn't dig any further. (was starting to getting sick to my stomach)

JOY TO THE WORLD
06-20-2008, 04:50 PM
If Larry Sinclair can get arrested surely Obama. Who do we contact about this?

Annie
06-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Where are the handcuffs?

And the ball and chain...and I don't mean Michelle!:p

mkreyns
06-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Can you post that legal post as a comment on CNN?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

bangorgirl
06-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Yes please take that man into custody! If I thought I could make a citizen's arrest I would. I say give him solitary confinement!

CGP
06-20-2008, 04:54 PM
I shouldn't participate but allow me this one indulgence...

Maybe Rezko, Sinclair & Obama can all have coffee & scones in the prison yard and decide on "where to from here guys?"...!! :rolleyes:

Ace
06-20-2008, 04:54 PM
Really. Who do we call first?

I think those listed below:

(f) A violation of the provisions of this section may be enjoined at the suit of the Attorney General,
(1) in the case of the great seal of the United States and the seals of the President and Vice President, upon complaint by any authorized representative of any department or agency of the United States;
(2) in the case of the seal of the United States Senate, upon complaint by the Secretary of the Senate;
(3) in the case of the seal of the United States House of Representatives, upon complaint by the Clerk of the House of Representatives; and
(4) in the case of the seal of the United States Congress, upon complaint by the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House of Representatives, acting jointly.

Viktoriya
06-20-2008, 04:54 PM
From my Blog (http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/should-obama-be-arrested-for-breaking.html):

Obama has been known to display a "personal" seal on his website (http://www.barackobama.com/images/bg.jpg) and at various campaign events.

§ 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Can you send it to McCain camp? or Fox?

Ace
06-20-2008, 05:05 PM
Can you send it to McCain camp? or Fox?

I'm not sure how you would go about doing that??

Mrs L
06-20-2008, 05:09 PM
yes Go Get Him.

Lock Him Up With Rezko And Put A Bug In The Cell.

Agent 00½ FL
06-20-2008, 05:13 PM
Not sure this would hold up in court. "Citizens Arrest"?

Ace
06-20-2008, 05:17 PM
Not sure this would hold up in court. "Citizens Arrest"?

It would?

Read the story about people who made Ron Paul currency:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/16/illegal-ron-paul-currency-seized/

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ngvf5-NGoXgC0M:http://files.meetup.com/512809/ron_paul_gold_coin.jpg
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:twsHIr4fl1GYZM:http://bp0.blogger.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/Rz8jSNw3i5I/AAAAAAAABBI/z6h949Knd6g/s400/RonPaulGoldHighResRev.jpg

mkreyns
06-20-2008, 05:18 PM
Mukaskey is the Attorney General. Is he in cahoots with Obama?

Here is the information

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/

SusanfromPA
06-20-2008, 05:18 PM
Fitzgerald?

Brooke
06-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Git 'er Done!!!!!!!!

ILBlue
06-20-2008, 05:25 PM
Works for me. Actually that would be a dream come true for me.

Also I read today of someone who had a vision of BO in an orange jump suit and walking handcuffed holding a folder with his head down. They said he had been arrested and appeared to have been found guilty since his head was down.

Seriously did read that today !:D:D:D:D:D

Qulin
06-20-2008, 05:28 PM
He should go to jail, this is just awful.

Ace
06-20-2008, 05:30 PM
This just got posted on a Texas Aggie business and politics forum lol. Looks like this is starting to get attention.

LucyTN
06-20-2008, 05:30 PM
Not sure this would hold up in court. "Citizens Arrest"?Worked for Gomer didn't it?:D

Ace
06-20-2008, 05:32 PM
Are there pictures of such? This would be GREAT if there were!!!! I can't recall any, tho. I just went to his website (then I had to go wash my hands.... and my keyboard... and my mouse...) to see if there's any such graphics. I couldn't stand the site, so I didn't dig any further. (was starting to getting sick to my stomach)

I added them right after I posted it.

GaGirl
06-20-2008, 05:32 PM
Send it to Lou Dobbs. I think he would be quite annoyed.

Brooke
06-20-2008, 05:33 PM
At this point, I don't think much is going to get him into trouble. Obama could run over a bunch of people with a bus a few times and not get arrested.

He already has.

foxyladi
06-20-2008, 05:43 PM
HERE COME DE JUDGE:rolleyes:

agalfromcal4hill
06-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Another example of BO ripping off someone else's work. Unfortunately a citizens' arrest or more correctly called "Any Person's Arrest" (you don't have to be a citizen to arrest someone) is not possible in this case. The arrest must carry with it a penalty which would carry at least 5 years. So no luck on us arresting him as lay people. But the Feds could and should. This is a disgrace, what's next a remake of Mt. Rushmore. I can see it now, he'll have to throw the others on the mount under the bus to make room for his grand image:eek:

bangorgirl
06-20-2008, 05:47 PM
At this point, I don't think much is going to get him into trouble. Obama could run over a bunch of people with a bus a few times and not get arrested.

He already has.

Yeah, I have the same feeling, but it is nice to dream.

Ace
06-20-2008, 05:50 PM
Another example of BO ripping off someone else's work. Unfortunately a citizens' arrest or more correctly called "Any Person's Arrest" (you don't have to be a citizen to arrest someone) is not possible in this case. The arrest must carry with it a penalty which would carry at least 5 years. So no luck on us arresting him as lay people. But the Feds could and should. This is a disgrace, what's next a remake of Mt. Rushmore. I can see it now, he'll have to throw the others on the mount under the bus to make room for his grand image:eek:

Umm....that was actually a subject that the AP threw out there.

Obama's Ears too Big for Mt. Rushmore.

(http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j0yiknRBE30J2EVtaA6z_0K6GJKwD910GB2G0)

ScottVA
06-20-2008, 05:53 PM
I just think it makes him look more like an idiot! If the MSM even picked this up a bit..... it would just be another little splinter for the mainstream voters in this Country to pick on.....LOL

Linda C
06-20-2008, 05:53 PM
He is really starting to remind me of the brown shirts

agalfromcal4hill
06-20-2008, 05:54 PM
I was going to say something about his ears, but I felt personal insults about his physical appearance were below me. Glad to see somebody else felt the same way. Look out country the change is coming Obama land next stop:eek:

SusanfromPA
06-20-2008, 05:56 PM
Wolf Blitzer just mentioned this as a teaser saying is it too much like the one at the White House.

wildheart4mcpalin
06-20-2008, 05:56 PM
can you get arrested for being an....292

samkm
06-20-2008, 05:59 PM
Next, he will have his own currency. Call it the "Rules Play Money."

Ace
06-20-2008, 06:03 PM
I was checking my website stats. I've already had a couple of visits from the House of Representatives, NASA, and some big corporations in Chicago lol!

Linda C
06-20-2008, 06:03 PM
The meaning of the Latin phrase..Vero possumus.. Not to be confused with possum the animal. I am flabbergasted. The next rendition will be instead of "Obama for America" "Obama is America"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/obama-goes-loca.html
While many in the press corps scratched their heads about the meaning of the phrase, they accurately guessed that it was latin for the campaign slogan, 'Yes We Can.' Latin scholar Matthew Crozier explains that the precise definition of vero possumus is "In truth we are able."

Justmy.02
06-20-2008, 06:04 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/eeobtour/images/seal-presidential-color.html

Go here to find pic of Presidential Seal...

Ace
06-20-2008, 06:06 PM
The meaning of the Latin phrase..Vero possumus.. Not to be confused with possum the animal. I am flabbergasted. The next rendition will be instead of "Obama for America" "Obama is America"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/obama-goes-loca.html
While many in the press corps scratched their heads about the meaning of the phrase, they accurately guessed that it was latin for the campaign slogan, 'Yes We Can.' Latin scholar Matthew Crozier explains that the precise definition of vero possumus is "In truth we are able."

Obama for America = anagram for = A Rare Mafia Combo

SusanfromPA
06-20-2008, 06:06 PM
I was checking my website stats. I've already had a couple of visits from the House of Representatives, NASA, and some big corporations in Chicago lol!

Cool! I love website stat details. Do keep us posted!

Dahlia
06-20-2008, 06:15 PM
I am so happy you found that code!

I hope the campaign spent some big bucks on seal paraphernalia and has to trash it all.


... and that he goes to jail!

But I know that will never happen so a nice fat fine will have to do.

wildheart4mcpalin
06-20-2008, 06:20 PM
Obama for America = anagram for = A Rare Mafia Combo

THAT IS GREAT!!!:D

samkm
06-20-2008, 06:39 PM
In my opinion, this is a desecration of a national emblem. It is right up there with the desecration of flag. I bet he got the idea from the church where he did the Father's day lecture. There was a big eagle on the brick wall behind and he got lots of pictures taken.. But that is not as big a deal, as when a pretense of a presidential seal shows up.. This is a real shame.

I think average Americans will react negatively to this. Presumptuous and preposterous.

(yes, sent to Lou, Hannity, Oreilly, Greta.. )

pc4hillary
06-20-2008, 07:00 PM
Well, I think he needs to abide by the RULES! We all know he does that all the time right. So if this is punishable by law, I think the law is a set of the BIGGEST RULES there are. I say PLAY BY THE RULES Obama!

Alex01
06-20-2008, 07:03 PM
How do we file a complaint and with whom? Any ideas?

I just talked with Operator Nine at the White House, and she suggested we call the Justice Department on Monday.;)

Tea toaD
06-20-2008, 07:06 PM
I was checking my website stats. I've already had a couple of visits from the House of Representatives, NASA, and some big corporations in Chicago lol!

Is this because of the US Code: Title 18,713? Were they viewing that article?

Ace
06-20-2008, 07:18 PM
Is this because of the US Code: Title 18,713? Were they viewing that article?

It was specifically that article.

Tea toaD
06-20-2008, 07:21 PM
It was specifically that article.

WOW! That's really something else. Thanks:)

Ace
06-20-2008, 07:24 PM
WOW! That's really something else. Thanks:)

I'm seeing that law being posted in comments on various news websites. Google has already scrubbed my website. :D

samkm
06-20-2008, 07:40 PM
shd the title be
(June 20, 2008) Should Obama be Arrested for breaking US Code: Title 18,713? (ChangeandExperience blog)

SadStateOfAffairs
06-20-2008, 07:46 PM
ChangeandExperience,

Hope you don't mind, I did a cut and paste over at the ABC blogs of the following off of your post.

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

I'm gonna go watch the BOTS go nuts.......:D It's ALL OVER the ABC website! I don't think Jake Tapper is too amused.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/the-audacity-of.html

Ace
06-20-2008, 07:53 PM
ChangeandExperience,

Hope you don't mind, I did a cut and paste over at the ABC blogs of the following off of your post.

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

I'm gonna go watch the BOTS go nuts.......:D It's ALL OVER the ABC website! I don't think Jake Tapper is too amused.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/the-audacity-of.html

The post is from public law. It's in the public domain :)

Charlie Brown
06-20-2008, 07:54 PM
I just talked with Operator Nine at the White House, and she suggested we call the Justice Department on Monday.;)


LMFAO.................

Ace
06-20-2008, 07:55 PM
I just talked with Operator Nine at the White House, and she suggested we call the Justice Department on Monday.;)

I think Operator Nine deserves to be commended lol.

mjno7777
06-20-2008, 08:00 PM
If it is violating a LAW, why is he NOT FINED?????????????

Musicdude
06-20-2008, 08:12 PM
If it is violating a LAW, why is he NOT FINED?????????????

It has to be investigated first. If we can get it officially under investigation, that is enough to stir the pot with in the MSM. One way to get the D.O.J. to take action if they are hesitant to do so, is to say, "Our group wants to do the same thing with the official seal, immediately. So if Obama can do it, we can do it, and we are informing you in advance so that there is full disclosure beforehand."
I have successfully used this tactic before with gov. agencies to get them to draw a conclusion right then and there about particular issues (not this one). It forces their hand. Otherwise, they will just lazily sit on it.

thebword
06-20-2008, 08:16 PM
Great work! I think we all have to email and blog this one all weekend. Law or no law against the seal, Obama looks like a little kid playing dress-up. It's too funny not to share the information and photos.

jerseygirl7
06-20-2008, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=Dahlia;196167]I am so happy you found that code!

I hope the campaign spent some big bucks on seal paraphernalia and has to trash it all.


... and that he goes to jail!

He will say he never noticed it (probably doesn't know what the real Seal even looks like!) and blame it on one of his flunkies!

The "rulz are the rulz" except when it applies to the Chosen One! :p

santafegal
06-20-2008, 10:56 PM
I've seen an AP news item on this reported, but it was treated as no big deal:

http://www.comcast.net/news/politics/index.jsp?cat=POLITICS&fn=/2008/06/20/990977.html&cookieattempt=1

Also here is a picture of the real seal. Aside from the eagle, the other elements in BO's are different, including the latin. P.S. I think BO's latin logo is a stretch LOL. He probably won't get thrown in the clink for it, but I think it just showcases his arrogance and it is insulting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Seal_Of_The_President_Of_The_Unites_States_O f_America.svg

ginamc
06-20-2008, 11:20 PM
I shouldn't participate but allow me this one indulgence...

Maybe Rezko, Sinclair & Obama can all have coffee & scones in the prison yard and decide on "where to from here guys?"...!! :rolleyes:

And, waffles and latte :)

santafegal
06-20-2008, 11:40 PM
Where did he come up with that latin phrase on his seal???

I think we should all come up with latin logos for BO's seal.

Here's mine:

Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus

(false in one thing, false in everything)

SadStateOfAffairs
06-20-2008, 11:41 PM
He is intentionally making a mockery of the United States to appease his radical friends here and abroad. Think about it. What must our enemies think? They are having a good laugh over this one. He's sending them messages and I cannot for the life of me understand why this jerk is not being stopped.

AdrienneJ
06-20-2008, 11:52 PM
I seem to have a different gut reaction to this than everyone else.

This makes me really angry. This is descecration of a national symbol.
This little asswipe puts his Orwellian logo on top of the chest of the American eagle. I have no doubt that is what he wants to do. I want to %$#@##$#@##$#.

I have always been luke-warm about burning of the flag. However, I don't like to see people with running shorts made out of the flag. Political
protest is one thing, wearing the flag on your ass is another.

And this is beyond all that, to me.

This little shit bag thinks he can descecrate a national symbol and run for president by doing it. Oh please, punish him for this hubris.

Mrsawd
06-21-2008, 12:10 AM
He is intentionally making a mockery of the United States to appease his radical friends here and abroad


Yes indeedy he most certainly is !


We need to find the right las that he has broken Jail him then straight to prison!

Let him find out what kind of caos can really happen in there!

SadStateOfAffairs
06-21-2008, 12:18 AM
He is intentionally making a mockery of the United States to appease his radical friends here and abroad


Yes indeedy he most certainly is !


We need to find the right las that he has broken Jail him then straight to prison!

Let him find out what kind of caos can really happen in there!

Could you imagine that little priss in prison? :eek:

sansu
06-21-2008, 12:21 AM
My thought was he needed a symbol so just used one, just like he can't debate usless someone else goes first. The candidate for change never has a new idea.

monirod
06-21-2008, 12:27 AM
[QUOTE=santafegal;196694]I've seen an AP news item on this reported, but it was treated as no big deal:

http://www.comcast.net/news/politics/index.jsp?cat=POLITICS&fn=/2008/06/20/990977.html&cookieattempt=1

Also here is a picture of the real seal. Aside from the eagle, the other elements in BO's are different, including the latin. P.S. I think BO's latin logo is a stretch LOL. He probably won't get thrown in the clink for it, but I think it just showcases his arrogance and it is insulting.QUOTE]
While I totally agree with the arrogance part of your post, unfortunately, it's even more than that -- it's also a tried and true propaganda technique of mass hypnosis -- put it into the heads of the brainless masses that he IS the POTUS, and he will BECOME the POTUS.

Kbentleyis
06-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Nothing in this man's campaign is beneath them. Our US seals belong to the government and the American people. How dare he even consider such a thing.

I wish his legs would grow together!

Charlie Brown
06-21-2008, 12:36 AM
He is intentionally making a mockery of the United States to appease his radical friends here and abroad. Think about it. What must our enemies think? They are having a good laugh over this one. He's sending them messages and I cannot for the life of me understand why this jerk is not being stopped.

Does anyone give a shit about this happening...besides us!!! Damn it Im worried....Please please stop this Im tired of this constant nightmare...It doesnt end...it just keeps getting worse...

SadStateOfAffairs
06-21-2008, 12:39 AM
I just talked with Operator Nine at the White House, and she suggested we call the Justice Department on Monday.;)

O.K. So who's wants to make the call? And, do you have to be a government employee as stated in an earlier post.

SadStateOfAffairs
06-21-2008, 12:45 AM
Does anyone give a shit about this happening...besides us!!! Damn it Im worried....Please please stop this Im tired of this constant nightmare...It doesnt end...it just keeps getting worse...

Well, I will say that it is getting a ton of media attention. It's all over the MSM websites. I don't think it's being taken lightly. We'll see where it goes come monday morning. I truly believe it could cause a big rukas.

If it was intentional, then there are some serious security questions to be answered by Barack. If it was unintentional there should be major concerns about this form of disrespect to sacred U.S. symbols from a man who is running for POTUS.

This guy has got to go NOW!

Hillarysmygirl08
06-21-2008, 12:59 AM
:):D:DI have had one extremely bad day today but this was funny. I love it lol you guys are such badddddddddddddddddddddddd folks lol :):D:cool:

Ace
06-21-2008, 01:00 AM
Well, I will say that it is getting a ton of media attention. It's all over the MSM websites. I don't think it's being taken lightly. We'll see where it goes come monday morning. I truly believe it could cause a big rukas.

If it was intentional, then there are some serious security questions to be answered by Barack. If it was unintentional there should be major concerns about this form of disrespect to sacred U.S. symbols from a man who is running for POTUS.

This guy has got to go NOW!

The story is all over the MSM websites, the story about the actual law being broken is being reported by multitudes of websites.

SadStateOfAffairs
06-21-2008, 01:05 AM
Hillary needs to cancel her fundraiser with BO. She can simply say she cannot support someone who desecrets our most honored traditions. And, she needs to confront him about this....in the media. Take this SOB to the mat!

Ace
06-21-2008, 01:08 AM
Sample Links that now mention the story:

http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/should-obama-be-arrested-for-breaking.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/06/is_obamas_great_seal_illegal_1.asp
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2034190/posts
http://amerpundit.com/2008/06/20/obamas-new-seal-illegal/
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/the-great-seal-of-obamaland/
http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=45
http://cbslocalblogs.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=kpix_eyeonblogs

Ebinger
06-21-2008, 01:09 AM
http://weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#7423

Broder reports that this seal was on display while Obama spoke to Democratic governors in Chicago this morning.


It is emblazoned with a fierce-looking eagle clutching an olive branch in one claw and arrows in the other and is deliberately reminiscent of the official seal of the president of the United States. Around the top border are the words “Obama for America;” across the bottom is the campaign’s Web address. It also contains the logo of the Obama campaign, variously interpreted as a sunrise or a view down an open road.

Just above the eagle’s head are the words “Vero Possumus,” roughly translated “Yes we can.” Not exactly E Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One), the motto on the presidential seal and the dollar bill.

Oh, fer cryin' out loud. Pretentious indeed, just like the candidate himself. Yeah, fine him and make him stop using this. Twit. :rolleyes:

CGP
06-21-2008, 01:45 AM
Obama's new "seal" is a direct LIFT of the presidential seal. It's basically copying and altering another entitie's logo. It would be like Hillary using Obama's general logo (the sunrise propaganda one), blotting out his name and putting her own name on it and her website address! :eek:

Bethany
06-21-2008, 02:10 AM
Does anyone give a shit about this happening...besides us!!! Damn it Im worried....Please please stop this Im tired of this constant nightmare...It doesnt end...it just keeps getting worse...

My thoughts exactly :-(

If the media covering for him got Obama off scot-free for the clear-cut fraud of Rezko helping Obama buy that house and property, I don't think we are going to any real public awareness of this outrage...

PA_Voter
06-21-2008, 04:42 AM
A Hefty fine & MAX prison sentence works for me!

EH
06-21-2008, 05:31 AM
I'm just appalled with all the things he gets away with!

Christines
06-21-2008, 06:43 AM
There is not enough room to list the reasons that Obama should be arrested!!

Molly
06-21-2008, 07:09 AM
This is on the FOX news web site - pictures & story!

EH
06-21-2008, 07:14 AM
This is on the FOX news web site - pictures & story!

Thanks for the heads up!

*runs over to FOX to read the story*

Angelica91
06-21-2008, 07:16 AM
This is on the FOX news web site - pictures & story!
thanks!:D

Alex01
06-21-2008, 10:14 AM
He'll be like "What? No way! The United States has a seal? Who knew?"

It would be funny (I know it won't happen) if this is what took him down. A perfect ending to this tragic, tragic, comedy of Barack Obama's "errors.":rolleyes:

[quote=Dahlia;196167]I am so happy you found that code!

I hope the campaign spent some big bucks on seal paraphernalia and has to trash it all.


... and that he goes to jail!

He will say he never noticed it (probably doesn't know what the real Seal even looks like!) and blame it on one of his flunkies!

The "rulz are the rulz" except when it applies to the Chosen One! :p

ALL4HILLARY
06-21-2008, 10:23 AM
He is intentionally making a mockery of the United States to appease his radical friends here and abroad. Think about it. What must our enemies think? They are having a good laugh over this one. He's sending them messages and I cannot for the life of me understand why this jerk is not being stopped.

He is making a mockery of the puplic election finance system a system that is financed by $3 small donnors. The thing with the way he gets money from internet is that could donate online using different names of people that have are not donating anyway.
Him and his wife are mocking the USA as it is for decades that is why his wife just felt proud of her country recently

Lodi
06-21-2008, 10:32 AM
Since Obama puts so much stock in the "rules," I say throw the book at him. Although, a fine might be preferable, since he'll probably enjoy jail too much! ;)

Lodi
06-21-2008, 10:35 AM
My thoughts exactly :-(

If the media covering for him got Obama off scot-free for the clear-cut fraud of Rezko helping Obama buy that house and property, I don't think we are going to any real public awareness of this outrage...

And that's why we have to keep making noise, until we drown out the corrupt, biased, unprofessional, misogynistic, supercalifragilistic mainstream media! Our numbers are sizable. We WILL have an effect. Just hang in there and don't despair. Don't give up. NEVER surrender to tyranny!!!!

SadStateOfAffairs
06-21-2008, 11:15 AM
Here's my email to her:

Dear Senator Clinton,

Barack’s most recent disrespect of one of our most sacred symbols, the Presidential Seal, is not only Un-American; it sends a very dangerous message to our enemies. A message that the United States of America should not be taken seriously. I am pleading with you to please do NOT support this man. I am only one voice in your army, but one by one, we will find a way to retire your campaign debt. I beg you Hillary; do not give this fraud your hard earned credibility. Instead, bring him to task for his blatant disrespect of America and her citizens. We’ve got your back, we are working diligently to raise funds and we will see you in Denver.

Respectfully,

SadStateOfAffairs

aka
XXXXXXXXXXXXX

foxyladi
06-21-2008, 11:44 AM
he has got to be the first presumed candidate
in history to pull a stunt like this
michell is wright he is pathetic
click bump:D

indigo
06-21-2008, 12:03 PM
Here is Patrick Fitzgerald's info

http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com/

This seal thing got some bad press here today in Boston for the self-appointed emporer.

indigo
06-21-2008, 12:04 PM
6 months in prison should just about do it. President Hillary!!!!

LucyTN
06-21-2008, 12:06 PM
I'm still shaking my head and hearing Jay Leno say "What the hell were you thinking"? Exactly what the hell WAS he thinking? One thing, among many, that has turned me completely off of this man is his total arrogance. What was his purpose in getting that seal made and placing it in front of him? Did he not KNOW what a firestorm he was lighting off? Was that his purpose, and if so, why? It seems like someone in his campaign stays awake nights coming up with ways to piss off the general public. Is that any way to win votes?

Ace
06-21-2008, 12:21 PM
This is on the FOX news web site - pictures & story!

Can we get a link please?

Ace
06-23-2008, 07:52 PM
We did it! Obama campaign is retiring the seal.

hillarymyhero
06-23-2008, 07:55 PM
This is breach of law and I believe Law is equal for all of us.

I believe he should be arrested for falsifying this seallllllwhich is a highly respectful seal supposed to be for President, not for any advertisement.

SugnSpicesmom
06-23-2008, 07:58 PM
wearing the flag on your ass is another.

Yeah and most of the time I don't want to see anything with pattern stretched over an ass. It's just too scarey!

And Obama should be arrested for many things, including this seal "lift" issue. But, it has become a moot point as he is "retiring" it. Yeah, my ass he's retiring it. He got his schlong in a wringer AGAIN (are any of us surprised?) and has to two-step his way out of it.

Bardot
06-23-2008, 07:59 PM
Jail the whole DNC!