Unity New Hampshire 6/27/08

[lanesharon]

I have a personal feeling that there may be something more to Unity New Hampshire this Friday. There are too many things happening this week that seem to be converging on this little town. Premonition? Wishful thinking? I don't know. But, I do know that if I were within a 200 mile radius of Unity New Hampshire, this Friday, I would be there. :D

Details on time, location, shuttle service, etc.:

--> Unity New Hampshire - Obama & Clinton Rally (http://forum.hillary-clintons-voice.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=172)

[VotingHillary]

Time to show the nation, and the DNC and superdelegates, one thing and one thing only..........PUMA!

[NewHamster]

What do you mean, lanesharon?

[Mrsawd]

PUMP UP

PUMA!


WE WANT CHOICE NOT CHOSEN for us !

[lanesharon]

She acquiesced this week.
He backed off this week.
The media was mute this week.
Bill came out today and declared support for Obama BEFORE the convention.
Hillary turned over her big fundraising people this week.
Her campaign offices got cleaned out this week.
She went back to the Senate today to a whole lot of hoopla that I did not expect at all.
And, Unity is a small town, but most of the press corps will be there from what I am reading.
I just have a feeling that is going to be more than a 'kumbaya' moment.

[NewHamster]

So you think he'll announce her as VP pick? I think I'm the only person here who wants that.

If I weren't working I'd go. It's like 30 miles from my house.

[martreasures]

Obama just said she will continue to do a good job as senator and have a bright future.... who is this clown... he aint gonna offer her nothing... he just wants thoses checks remember....

[lanesharon]

I'm no clown. ;)

[Arctic907]

It seems there are 3000 of them according to this email I received from the Dems. Unfortunately you have to go to BHO's website. If you go to the site you can enter your ZIP code and find nearby events in your area.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/uniteforchange/

[jgilmore]

I am scared to death that this guy is going to win....If he did, I don't know whether I would want Hillary there as VP or not....we will see what happens in NH, but I bet it is just more being nice..

[Mrs L]

My prayer is that she will NEVER accept his VP position.

Something just keeps telling me she knows something we don't know and she is just playing the game until it happens.

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.

I am praying every day for whatever it is to hurry up and happen.

[wasGOPnowInd]

I will not vote for him if she is nominated as VP - PERIOD!!!!!

Obama must be defeated.

[wasGOPnowInd]

My prayer is that she will NEVER accept his VP position.

Something just keeps telling me she knows something we don't know and she is just playing the game until it happens.

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.

I am praying every day for whatever it is to hurry up and happen.

Now, don't get me wrong. I have been around politics long enough to know that to be as effective as she is, you have to have a steel spine, and a great poker face. But, I think she also knows that she cannot lose in the position she is in...she can, however, lose if she accepts VP.

[SusanfromPA]

My prayer is that she will NEVER accept his VP position.

Something just keeps telling me she knows something we don't know and she is just playing the game until it happens.

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.

I am praying every day for whatever it is to hurry up and happen.

I still think it has to do with his clearance. His mother was several years too young when she had him to give him the proper credentials (because his father was Kenyan his mother had to have spent five years after the age of 16 in America for him to have the needed citizenship to be President. His Mother was 18 when he was born in 1961. This could be the reason Obama tried to make it seem that he was conceived after his parents witnessed the Selma march in 1965.

[neutralplayer]

So you think he'll announce her as VP pick? I think I'm the only person here who wants that.

If I weren't working I'd go. It's like 30 miles from my house.

You are not the only one NewHamster :p

[mjoynaples]

sorry hillary I love you and want you to be pres more than anything... and that blue looks amazing (what she came back to WASH DC in... WOWOW ) presidential... I am surprise all the fashion designers were not pushing for her either... (lol... because that is important...) anyway I just heard on some station I was flipping NOT LISTENING TO that BO has asked his suppporters to help pay down her 20.2 million dollary debt... is this true???? we have not made a dent??? give me a break... I guess $5.00 really didn't make a difference from all of us????

[AlwaysforHillary]

I received an e-mail and they want it passed around. There will be a PROTEST RALLY to protest THE SHAM that the Democratic Party is unified.

http://pumaaction.com

Even THIS will be "staged" by Obama. He will FLOOD the place with HIS supporters in a vain attempt to show the country that the party is unified! It truly is a SHAM!!!

If anyone lives in or around the N.H. area, and you are able to attend, I think it would make an important statement!

[ALL4HILLARY]

My prayer is that she will NEVER accept his VP position.

Something just keeps telling me she knows something we don't know and she is just playing the game until it happens.

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.

I am praying every day for whatever it is to hurry up and happen.

Same here. This guy is very bad news in any way and Hillary close tohim will damage her. This guy is a cancer for USA.

[Gerry2008]

I will not vote for him if she is nominated as VP - PERIOD!!!!!

Obama must be defeated.

Exactly. Nothing is more important than defeating Obama. The person he eventually selects will never change the fact that he is unqualified to be POTUS.

[lanesharon]

At this point, VP might be okay. It might get me my Universal Health Care Coverage.

[Lynne]

Okay, I'm always cynic. But this is my theory about Unity, NH. Obama has talked more about her debt. Hillary's email today seemed like this was a final plea for help. I think Obama will buy her delegates. The joint appearance will be about how Obama is generous kind. Hillary will give Obama her delegates as a show of Unity. If Hillary does not have delegates then she will not be on the roll call. This makes some sense of what Howard Dean's office said about the convention. I was told Obama's name would be the only name called for roll call. I asked why and was told that it is assumed everyone is for him.
NEVER in the history of the US has there been only one candidate on the ballot. This is indeed a coronation.

Obama thinks he doesn't have to worry about Clinton supporters or Independents or Hispanic votes. Check out this link where it states "Obama Poised to Win Historic Level of Support from Women Obama" He states that in exit polls Hillary was +16 margin and he is +24 margin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/obama_presentation_062508.pdf

This debt needs to be paid now !!!! Called everyone you know for donations. Pull out your lose change/penny jars. Go to ebay and sell stuff. I

[trading wine for beer]

Okay, I'm always cynic. But this is my theory about Unity, NH. Obama has talked more about her debt. Hillary's email today seemed like this was a final plea for help. I think Obama will buy her delegates. The joint appearance will be about how Obama is generous kind. Hillary will give Obama her delegates as a show of Unity. If Hillary does not have delegates then she will not be on the roll call. This makes some sense of what Howard Dean's office said about the convention. I was told Obama's name would be the only name called for roll call. I asked why and was told that it is assumed everyone is for him.
NEVER in the history of the US has there been only one candidate on the ballot. This is indeed a coronation.

Obama thinks he doesn't have to worry about Clinton supporters or Independents or Hispanic votes. Check out this link where it states "Obama Poised to Win Historic Level of Support from Women Obama" He states that in exit polls Hillary was +16 margin and he is +24 margin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/obama_presentation_062508.pdf

This debt needs to be paid now !!!! Called everyone you know for donations. Pull out your lose change/penny jars. Go to ebay and sell stuff. I

ugh!! Why can't it be July 1st today??... I can't make another donation until then :mad:.. I hope it won't be too late. IF this is the plan (which, I sincerely hope not!), I hope she waits until after the middle of next month. I think a lot of people get paid on the first of the month and in them middle of the month. Fingers crossed!!!

[Bad Kitty]

At this point, VP might be okay. It might get me my Universal Health Care Coverage.

You have to remember that OB debated her on her health care plan stating how it wouldn't work. For some reason I believe that he is not as in to it as she is. Unless she is in the forefront heading the path, it won't happen. BO will crack under the pressure instantly. If she excepts a VP from him, I'm still not voting for him....McCain it is.

[JamieKuuipo]

She acquiesced this week.
He backed off this week.
The media was mute this week.
Bill came out today and declared support for Obama BEFORE the convention.
Hillary turned over her big fundraising people this week.
Her campaign offices got cleaned out this week.
She went back to the Senate today to a whole lot of hoopla that I did not expect at all.
And, Unity is a small town, but most of the press corps will be there from what I am reading.
I just have a feeling that is going to be more than a 'kumbaya' moment.

May be, but It will ;not be in Hillary favor what ever it is, His ego is too big
to make Hillary vp.....

[SadStateOfAffairs]

I'm glad Hillary's doing this on a Friday. Poor news cycle day.......She's no fool.

[Meg]

All of this unity talk is enough to make me gag!:rolleyes: I can't take hearing hope, change, or unity anymore... it's gone waaayyy to far.:mad:

[Bad Kitty]

All of this unity talk is enough to make me gag!:rolleyes: I can't take hearing hope, change, or unity anymore... it's gone waaayyy to far.:mad:

I thought I was the only. Every time I hear the word unity now I cringe.

[Meg]

I thought I was the only. Every time I hear the word unity now I cringe.

Oh no don't feel alone. ;) Anytime I hear or see anything that involves BO I freak out... it's like a disease or allergy or maybe a phobia... don't know which one suits it better. lol :D

[Bad Kitty]

Oh no don't feel alone. ;) Anytime I hear or see anything that involves BO I freak out... it's like a disease or allergy or maybe a phobia... don't know which one suits it better. lol :D

Obamaphobia- Fear of lying, deceitful politicians. (formerly Bushaphobia)

[Meg]

Obamaphobia- Fear of lying, deceitful politicians. (formerly Bushaphobia)


That sounds good... I think I'll use that.:D

[Bad Kitty]

That sounds good... I think I'll use that.:D

Good. :D I heard the only cure is to vote for Hillary or McCain.

[Charlie Brown]

ugh!! Why can't it be July 1st today??... I can't make another donation until then :mad:.. I hope it won't be too late. IF this is the plan (which, I sincerely hope not!), I hope she waits until after the middle of next month. I think a lot of people get paid on the first of the month and in them middle of the month. Fingers crossed!!!

Good to see you beer for wine...I have been thinking of you and all that sand bagging...Hows it look in Iowa City...My husband will be there for a Doctors Opt tomarrow????

[Charlie Brown]

Good to see you beer for wine...I have been thinking of you and all that sand bagging...Hows it look in Iowa City...My husband will be there for a Doctors Opt tomarrow????

oopps..I ment wine for beer...hehe....

[Karee Wyoming]

sorry hillary I love you and want you to be pres more than anything... and that blue looks amazing (what she came back to WASH DC in... WOWOW ) presidential... I am surprise all the fashion designers were not pushing for her either... (lol... because that is important...) anyway I just heard on some station I was flipping NOT LISTENING TO that BO has asked his suppporters to help pay down her 20.2 million dollary debt... is this true???? we have not made a dent??? give me a break... I guess $5.00 really didn't make a difference from all of us????

Acording to MSM tonight he only asked his big doners (If they were so inclined) to pay off her vendors but nothing for her money that she lent the campaign so in that sense maybe we are making a dent on her end of it!! I wish we knew the stats!!! Anyway to find out????

[samkm]

I'm sleeping early tonight... so I can be ready for the big drama tomorrow.. and same tomorrow night for day after. What say folks?

I know it's going to be a lot of drama.. but that dont change nothin' for me. So, might as well rest up.

[dandanna]

Please don't let her accept the VP position...oh, god, that would be terrible!

[Alex01]

I'm sleeping early tonight... so I can be ready for the big drama tomorrow.. and same tomorrow night for day after. What say folks?

I know it's going to be a lot of drama.. but that dont change nothin' for me. So, might as well rest up.

I say we need to ready ourselves for anything. Allow yourselves to imagine various scenarios, so you will at least be somewhat prepared for whatever might happen. Then latch on to the one you want. I picture Senator Clinton, with her brilliant, huge smile, waving to the adoring crowd, that is so happy to have her in their sights again. She has Bill and Chelsea there, and they are likewise so happy that their smiles light up the entire room. It's a happy, joyful time for everyone, and we will never forget how the mood in the country lifted, and we knew that President Clinton would lead America, and the world, to greater heights than we ever imagined! Sorry, I'm jumping ahead to the convention:rolleyes:.

As for Friday, she will be subdued, will smile, who the hell knows - it will probably be torture on many different levels. But aren't we learning to live with daily torture? It makes us stronger, so we can fight harder.:cool:

[Molly]

Hillary & Bill Clinton are VERY SMART - Hillary only SUSPENDED her campaign - AND has Kept All her Earned Delegates. Wait until the convention!

[Meg]

As for Friday, she will be subdued, will smile, who the hell knows - it will probably be torture on many different levels. But aren't we learning to live with daily torture? It makes us stronger, so we can fight harder.:cool:


I say campaigning for BO is worse than waterboarding

[lanesharon]

I have been thinking about this today. I realized that I don't want to become another 'jerk' that tells Hillary what she can or can't do. Between the media, Obama, obamabots, and the DNC, this lady has seen more than her share of jerks telling her what she can and can't do.

After giving this some very serious thought today, I know that I have to respect her for any decision that she has made. And, I have to accept the fact that she is much more politically savvy than little ole me. I am a pea-brain politically. And, I would be the last one to kick her when she is down. She has been beat up enough.

My personal goal - Universal Health coverage for all. And, in one of her town meetings I got to have my question placed before her. This was her answer to me, paraphrased a little -- Sharon, I guarantee you that my health plan will cover every person in your Rare Cancer group and every person in the United States. My question was whether she would guarantee me, personally, that ALL people in the US would be covered.

So, now, I have to sit back and realize that in order to give me that, she will make the decision that will get it. I trust her implicitly to make the right decisions for me, my rare cancer group, and the rest of the country. And, who am I to tell her differently? I am just a pea-brain, remember??

Honestly, I am behind Hillary Clinton 1000%, NO MATTER WHAT.............

[Joe from WI]

Anyone who thinks Hillary as VP would make a difference in the next 4 years is naive. BO is narcissist. And dont forget his ugly wife MO.

They will send her away on some peace mission like a mommy ambassador.

So pleaseeeeeeeeeeee, dont fall for the unity crap.

[SugnSpicesmom]

Anyone who thinks Hillary as VP would make a difference in the next 4 years is naive.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. Hillary as VP for four years will absolutely result in nothing - NOTHING!! Because of national security concerns, the President and VP are literally kept apart much of the time. Hillary would have virtually no pull in day-to-day operations of the country. She would have virtually no impact on anything Obama did.

Add to that, that Obama would simply be using her to attempt to win the GE and after that he'd shred her to pieces and undermine her at every opportunity. And believe me, he wants NO part of having President Clinton anywhere in the White House. If President Clinton is there, he is going to have quite alot to say about the issues at hand, even if he isn't supposed to. And.....people will LISTEN to him. Obama doesn't want anyone listening to anyone but himself.

So, forget Hillary as VP. I don't see it happening and even if she does run as VP, I love my country more and I will NOT for Obama if he's anywhere on the ticket - even with Hillary at his side. Can't do it.

[Calico]

So, forget Hillary as VP. I don't see it happening and even if she does run as VP, I love my country more and I will NOT for Obama if he's anywhere on the ticket - even with Hillary at his side. Can't do it.

I won't vote for Obama. Period. And, I believe Hillary is wise enough to say no deal to the VP position.

[LadyVT]

If she does accept the VP position (and I, too, hope she doesn't), remember that if he's elected, she will be President if something happens to BO (he's declared ineligible because of his birth certificate, he's indicted, a felony is found in his past criminal record, etc.).

She is a very, very savvy politician and she's doing the right thing, even if we don't know why at the moment. Also remember, she and Bill seem to recognize the danger in a BO presidency.

[samkm]

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. Hillary as VP for four years will absolutely result in nothing - NOTHING!! ..
.. except hurting her image..

[Folamix]

I am scared to death that this guy is going to win....If he did, I don't know whether I would want Hillary there as VP or not....we will see what happens in NH, but I bet it is just more being nice..

Unfortunately, baring a major scandal, I think he will win.

[neutralplayer]

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. Hillary as VP for four years will absolutely result in nothing - NOTHING!! Because of national security concerns, the President and VP are literally kept apart much of the time. Hillary would have virtually no pull in day-to-day operations of the country. She would have virtually no impact on anything Obama did.

I think all you have to do is look the role Vice President Cheney has played in this administration to see that the vice presidency does indeed carry some weight in terms of policy and decision-making. Plus it is the best stepping stone to the presidency in the entire country and find it hard to believe Mrs. Clinton would pass it up if offered.

[foxyladi]

Unfortunately, baring a major scandal, I think he will win.

MAJOR SCANDAL YEP THATS IT ALRIGHT
ITS COMMNG

[wasGOPnowInd]

...it is the best stepping stone to the presidency in the entire country and find it hard to believe Mrs. Clinton would pass it up if offered.

This may be true for someone of Obama's experience, but for Hillary, it could only mean that she would be on a losing ticket (because I feel that any ticket with his name at the top will go down in flames). If somehow they were to win, she would not get her shot at the Presidency until 2016!

No folks, it is 2008 or 2012 for Hillary. Period. She did not work this hard to play second banana to a neophyte megalomaniac.

[samkm]

This may be true for someone of Obama's experience, but for Hillary, it could only mean that she would be on a losing ticket (because I feel that any ticket with his name at the top will go down in flames). If somehow they were to win, she would not get her shot at the Presidency until 2016!

No folks, it is 2008 or 2012 for Hillary. Period. She did not work this hard to play second banana to a neophyte megalomaniac.

Totally agree with you. It is so important to not let BHO win this.. Dont let anything influence you to favor him.

And I agree, it is Hillary 2008 or 2012. But no BHO.

[lanesharon]

I think all you have to do is look the role Vice President Cheney has played in this administration to see that the vice presidency does indeed carry some weight in terms of policy and decision-making. Plus it is the best stepping stone to the presidency in the entire country and find it hard to believe Mrs. Clinton would pass it up if offered.

The Vice President carries weight, if their political stature going in allows it. Cheney carries weight because it was his money and his connections that got GW into the Prez position and it is his supporters and their financial backing that has kept him there.

On the other hand, Al Gore did not have a great deal of power in the WH. He was being primed to be the heir apparent.

If she chooses to run as a VP, before you balk at it, ask yourself:

Do you think Hillary is politically smarter than you are?
Does Hillary have stature going in?
Does she wield a little power of her own?
Would she keep an eye on the WH activities?
Do you think she would have negotiated for delivery of some of her major issues, before making any VP decision?
Is having an eye in the WH better than nothing at all?
Is an ascendency into the WH better than nothing at all?

A personal note on all of this: I was sitting at Burger King 2 days ago in the morning sipping on a senior coffee to wake myself up. There was an older married couple in the booth behind me. Keep in mind that I live in a Republican stronghold. Wife says to hubby - "Oh, that HILLARY! She is trying to wrangle a place in the White House." (This tells me they are Republicans :D) Husand replies, "Yeah, but it is better than having her in there as President". Wife quickly replies, "NO, it isn't! Then we would be stuck with a Democrat in the White House for 16 years!!"

I had to ask myself, in all my anger and stupidity, am I missing the obvious?

So, this is my constant prayer since then - "Please give her the wisdom and knowledge to do the next right thing for the country."

I vote issues, not candidates. My top issues are health care coverage for everyone in the US and investment in our children's educations. That is why I chose Hillary, that is why I stick with her, regardless of her decisions. She promised me, personally, she would work on my number one issue; I promised her I would stick by her, no matter what.................

[Tague]

Priceless....


http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/could-it-really-besynchonicity/#more-1370

Okay this is just too much. Tomorrow, Barack Obama is staging a joint appearance with Hillary Clinton near a school in Unity, NH at what is to be called a “Unite for Change” rally. The Manchester Union Leader reports that the location was chosen not only because of the town’s symbolic name, but also because the votes for Clinton and Obama in this tiny NH town were tied 107-107. Oooooh, strange!

But it gets even stranger. Recently we learned that the Unity, NH school mascot is a panther, which is another name for puma. So will there be Unity school kids at the rally wearing their panther T-shirts? Will there be a panther flag? Will Barack and Hillary congratulate the Unity Panthers (pumas) in their speeches?

[Amy Dugan]

So you think he'll announce her as VP pick? I think I'm the only person here who wants that.

If I weren't working I'd go. It's like 30 miles from my house.

whispers here near IN say Bayh wants it and Obama offered.

[CriticalOne]

Unity Panthers/Pumas...oh, the irony.

[Meg]

But it gets even stranger. Recently we learned that the Unity, NH school mascot is a panther, which is another name for puma. So will there be Unity school kids at the rally wearing their panther T-shirts? Will there be a panther flag? Will Barack and Hillary congratulate the Unity Panthers (pumas) in their speeches?


Hahaha... wow that is definitely ironic.:D See all the signs are there... DON'T DO IT HILLARY!!!:eek:

[Laura Cereta]

My prayer is that she will NEVER accept his VP position.

Something just keeps telling me she knows something we don't know and she is just playing the game until it happens.

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.

I am praying every day for whatever it is to hurry up and happen.

I have never heard of one instance in Hillary's entire well-known life where she has "rolled over". I don't believe for a second that it is happening now.

[Meg]

I do have this gut feeling, she continually looks so happy, I can't believe she is just rolling over.


She's had to be "happy" for the past 15 years dealing with everyone... so I think dealing with BO is nothing to her.

[Brooke]

Oh man, lanesharon, don't bring me down. I've had the best week ever (started my new job).

This would absolutely ruin my high. It'd kill it right down. It better not be true.

No VP for HRC. NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless it's for McCain.

[SusanfromPA]

What time is the event in Unity tomorrow?

[PA_Voter]

So you think he'll announce her as VP pick? I think I'm the only person here who wants that.

If I weren't working I'd go. It's like 30 miles from my house.
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I want her as Prez, not VP... Sorry but if she doesn't come out of the convention as the nominee, I'd rather fight for BHO to lose so that she can rerun in 4 years... 8 years is too many to wait! My vote will go to McCain because BHO can't be trusted.... Soon he'll throw his wife under the bus, just watch and wait.

[hillarypower08]

Now, don't get me wrong. I have been around politics long enough to know that to be as effective as she is, you have to have a steel spine, and a great poker face. But, I think she also knows that she cannot lose in the position she is in...she can, however, lose if she accepts VP.
Yes, yes, yes! I agree. Hillary knows something and cannot make it public. She must show support for Obama or the Party will never support her in the future. Though it would be poetic justice to see her turn her back on the Dems, she can't afford to do that because it would be the end of her political career. Let's just trust Hillary, let her do what she needs to do, and keep the faith. I am so relieved that so many of us continue to feel as stronly about one thing--WE WILL NEVER, NEVER, NEVER SUPPORT BO!

[wasGOPnowInd]

She's had to be "happy" for the past 15 years dealing with everyone... so I think dealing with BO is nothing to her.

Besides, she is a professional politician. You learn early to tough it up when you have to.

[Musicdude]

I think all you have to do is look the role Vice President Cheney has played in this administration to see that the vice presidency does indeed carry some weight in terms of policy and decision-making. Plus it is the best stepping stone to the presidency in the entire country and find it hard to believe Mrs. Clinton would pass it up if offered.

1) Obama has severe character flaws. He is not qualified to be president.
2) He's a national security risk.
3) He would have a distasterous presidency.
4) His VP would suffer the fate of a permanently ruined reputation.
5) If that VP was Hillary, it would also negatively affect future women running for president because sexism would add fuel to the fire.

[martreasures]

I just heard one of obama's spokes person say " some hillary supporters will still not come over to obama because they let other things in their bitter life make them mad...made no sense to me...

[Meg]

Is anyone actually watching the rally aside from me?:confused:

[lucky-ann]

I just heard one of obama's spokes person say " some hillary supporters will still not come over to obama because they let other things in their bitter life make them mad...made no sense to me...

WTF??

[JJ4Hillary]

Yeah i'm watching it right now.

[Meg]

ok so at least I'm not alone...

[hipelayne]

Obama just said she will continue to do a good job as senator and have a bright future....

So WTF gives this kid the balls to even turn around and say something so condescending about Senator Clinton? What the hell does he know about being a senator? All he's done for the past 8 years or whatever is run for office and learn how to get people thrown off ballots! :mad::mad::mad:

[bangorgirl]

I am watching, and getting rather ill.

[Meg]

yeah this is way to much "unity" for me today!:eek: It is funny he has to compliment her every few minutes.;):p:D

[Dahlia]

I cannot believe I tuned in just in time to see BO do that shoulder brush thing. Ack.

[evolin]

it is unbelieveable what I am watching. Bad for my heart!

[bangorgirl]

Wheres mo? She's probably on alot of meds right now.

[sflady]

WTF ... was that comment about HEELS??? THAT WAS NOT SEXIST? He said it TWICE! I feel ill.

[Meg]

he just referenced himself in the 3rd person... what the hell

[lakerchick4life]

Hillary I love ya but I just can't vote for that man..I'm sorry..Vice President or no Vice President I just can't. I know why she is doing this..because she has to pay off her damn debt. Believe me, NO WAY IN HELL would she be kissing his ass like this if it weren't for the fact that she is millions in debt. I will be voting for McCain..not because I want to, but because I have to..Obama will DESTROY this country..Hillary is accepting blood money

[bangorgirl]

Oh God it's our time to change, thank god it's over.

[Musicdude]

Any PUMA or No Deal signs there?

[Meg]

no purely the followers!:mad::(

[SusanfromPA]

They would never allow PUMA signs in there. I couldn't watch it, It was making me physically ill. I only take comfort in the fact that there are many people out there who hate that man even more than I do.

[RAFREE]

Well she just made the Obama supporters fall in love with her...that will come in handy when she is the nominee or when she runs in 2012. How smart is that?? She's got an agenda to get her work done for the American people and no Obama or anyone else is going to make her take her eye off the ball.:)

[Musicdude]

They would never allow PUMA signs in there. . I thought there might be some outside the assembly area. If there are I wonder if the MSM will ignore them.

[LadyVT]

Some people called out "Hillary!!" at the beginning. On CSPAN, you could see that the Obamabots with signs were all in a tight swath in the middle (just behind the podium, of course) and all around them were people who had folded arms and hardly clapped at all.

CSPAN is replaying it all at 8 PM EST. I want to see Hillary's speech (missed it; she spoke first).

[mkreyns]

The only thing I know is that Rush does not think there was any unity at all. He said Hillary was acting and faking.

[BRTL12]

She spoke the longest, and it looked to me, like he was getting really edgy in his chair, as if she was eating up alot of his time. Then, towards the end of her comments he got this scowl on his face, crossed his arms and kept leaning over to look to see how much more she had to read. :D

[Meg]

She spoke the longest, and it looked to me, like he was getting really edgy in his chair, as if she was eating up alot of his time. Then, towards the end of her comments he got this scowl on his face, crossed his arms and kept leaning over to look to see how much more she had to read. :D


I noticed that too... he was on the end of his seat(literally) the whole time... it was funny.:D

[PA_Voter]

1) Obama has severe character flaws. He is not qualified to be president.
2) He's a national security risk.
3) He would have a distasterous presidency.
4) His VP would suffer the fate of a permanently ruined reputation.
5) If that VP was Hillary, it would also negatively affect future women running for president because sexism would add fuel to the fire.
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I agree.. BHO is dangerous and Hillary should stay as far away as she can from this selected candidate.

[samkm]

Well she just made the Obama supporters fall in love with her...that will come in handy when she is the nominee or when she runs in 2012. How smart is that?? She's got an agenda to get her work done for the American people and no Obama or anyone else is going to make her take her eye off the ball.:)

;)How can anyone not like her. She has even stretched the olive branch without even being given the VP spot.:D

What we do in voting against BO is our choice as individual voters who know what the party establishment did to push their candidate over the choice per democracy. We dont like people who undermine democracy. And that includes DNC, BO, and all the people who are standing against Hillary. Hillary is the choice of democracy in this country.

[endodoc79]

Glad this unity thing is over. We can exhale.

[jencul]

it looked like the chair was too high for her to sit without looking pretty undignified climbing up:(

[samkm]

PUMA would have had a separate rally outside. There was one in discussion and I had seen some notices flying around in their site.

[VANITY4HILLARY]

At this point, VP might be okay. It might get me my Universal Health Care Coverage.

ha trust universal health care is not going to be on anybody mind when isareal bomb iran azz when this man is elected President.America better hope they azz dont get nuked

[Meg]

it looked like the chair was too high for her to sit without looking pretty undignified climbing up:(


That was a real funny mental image...:D Bad I know :o I can't help it!

[reddirtgirl]

May be, but It will ;not be in Hillary favor what ever it is, His ego is too big
to make Hillary vp.....


That twit wouldn't be able to handle a strong woman. (I don't consider MO a strong woman, just a racist b****.)

[reddirtgirl]

Obamaphobia- Fear of lying, deceitful politicians. (formerly Bushaphobia)

:D:D

[reddirtgirl]

I think all you have to do is look the role Vice President Cheney has played in this administration to see that the vice presidency does indeed carry some weight in terms of policy and decision-making. Plus it is the best stepping stone to the presidency in the entire country and find it hard to believe Mrs. Clinton would pass it up if offered.


Frankly, I disagree. A NORMAL VP has very little standing. In Cheney's case, I believe he ran this country into war and into the ground. Dubya is too dumb to run a presidency. Cheney is VERY powerful, and has been a very big contributor in setting policy. That's one reason no one has impeached Bush, they see Cheney as worse - for good reason.

Interesting, but just yesterday someone on Hannity & Colmes opined that any impeachment proceedings would have to start with Cheney, then Bush. When asked why, that's exactly what he said - can't have a Cheney presidency.

Not only that, but Hillary would have to wait 8 years most likely, to run for President if she accepted any VP slot. I doubt she wants to run at 70.

[mslas4hillary]

Can someone tell me what happend at Unity? Did people protest????????

[Amy Dugan]

Any PUMA or No Deal signs there?

what about on the periphery of the event?

[reddirtgirl]

Hillary I love ya but I just can't vote for that man..I'm sorry..Vice President or no Vice President I just can't. I know why she is doing this..because she has to pay off her damn debt. Believe me, NO WAY IN HELL would she be kissing his ass like this if it weren't for the fact that she is millions in debt. I will be voting for McCain..not because I want to, but because I have to..Obama will DESTROY this country..Hillary is accepting blood money


Thank God I chose not to watch....I wouldn't be able to watch Hill kissing his ass.:mad: and sick to my stomach just hearing y'all talk about it.

[justme819]

Can someone tell me what happend at Unity? Did people protest????????

Not that I know of... BUT A PUB STRATEGIST STATED AFTERWARDS ON MSNBC...THAT THE THING LOOKED OVER-THE-TOP AND SCRIPTED WITH COLOR-COORDINATION, ETC...EVEN RIDICULOUS...AND THEN EVVEN MENTIONED PUMA AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR...AND HOW/WHY MANY HILL DEMS. LIKE US ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR McCAIN...MENTIONED COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY, HIS STRENGTH AS A LEADER IN A WORLD CRISIS, (ALMOST CERTAIN TO COME IN THE NEXT YR OR TWO), HIS BEING A WAR HERO, ETC!

AND THEN WENT ON TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THE MANY BO WEAKNESSES WHICH WE POINT OUT ALL THE TIME ON THIS FORUM!...HOW BADLY HE GOT BEAT IN THE LAST FEW CONTESTS...AND WAS LEAKING OIL, GAS, ETC., AS HE CROSSED THE FINISH LINE...AND GUESS WHAT...THIS GUY WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...FOR A MOMENT, I FOUND MYSELF THINKING THAT HE MUST READ THIS FORUM SINCE HE HIT ON MANY OF OUR MAIN REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR BO...AND TO VOTE FOR McCAIN INSTEAD!!

BOTTOM LINE: REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS SAID, ACTED OUT AS SCRIPTED, NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

PLAN A - WORK ON SD`S TO GET HILL THE NOM., ETC!
PLAN B - CAMPAIGN FOR McCAIN TO DEFEAT BO
PLAN C - HILLARY...12!!!

[mslas4hillary]

Thanks for explaining... what happend to our protesters? Atleast Unity is over with I'm still with you - Hillary 08'!... I just saw when they got on the stage and how much Hillary stole the spotlight from him. You could tell she didn't want to be there at all.

[samkm]

Wonder if the PUMA demonstration/protest/procession happened.


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[eyedoc333]

Wow, good coverage of PUMA people on CBS News at "Unity"! :)

[reddirtgirl]

ABC news is showing some protesters outside. And during the rally, when BOzo was yapping, someone in the audience yelled out "Hillary rocks!!" She grinned and waved, and all BOzo could do was agree.

YES!!

[justme819]

ABC news is showing some protesters outside. And during the rally, when BOzo was yapping, someone in the audience yelled out "Hillary rocks!!" She grinned and waved, and all BOzo could do was agree.

YES!!

yeah...he agreed by saying, "Yes. Hillary does rock!"...he appeared a little bit enbarassed tho...LOL

[Arctic907]

http://camille424.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/from-political-punch/

Just a random scene? Don’t be so sure.

According to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, 24% of Clinton’s supporters are thinking of supporting McCain in November, with Obama only winning 62% of them as of now. That’s why Clinton directly told them not to go for McCain today.

Also see this:
Prominent Dems to to lead McCain Group (in NH)
http://www.politickernh.com/brianlawson/2169/prominent-dems-lead-mccain-group

[nette60]

Hearing about it over the radio...and then on the news....I can 't take it

[samkm]

ABC news is showing some protesters outside. And during the rally, when BOzo was yapping, someone in the audience yelled out "Hillary rocks!!" She grinned and waved, and all BOzo could do was agree.

YES!!

Awesome!! That's the way to keep her on the campaign trail!! She is going to win them over!!

Exposed to Hillary? You will be influenced. :)

[Patricia GA]

I thought she out did Obama all the way around today. She sparkled. You know she is a smart cookie. She knows she has to have Dems united for her when the time comes. Now, no crystal ball as to when ...but she will be back. Hey, she said their paths have joined to make Obama president...but if he has a problem between now and November and he gets knocked off the path...Hillary will be on the path for the White House for Hillary to be president. And if Obama is able to stay on the path and does get the nomination she will be on the path for 2012 cause he is going to lose and out go the sorry DNC with him. She is one smart cookie.

[lanesharon]

When you look at the entire speech, split up in 4 equal parts, you see the truth:
http://forum.hillary-clintons-voice.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=177

First two parts are Hillary pretty much giving a campaign speech, replete with platform. The third part is Obama thanking her and trying to 'make nice'. And, the last is Obama. I think 3/4 of the speeches being dedicated to Hillary is pretty good! :D

She is a class act!

[CriticalOne]

Ok, just got in here.

I saw clips of the rally, and from what I saw Hillary (as usual) outshined him at his own phoney rally event. For anyone that watched "Yes, Clinton does rock." :)

As sickening as it was to watch Hillary lead along the Unity Pony so he could strut and show, again, she did outshine him. She looked like the president up on that stage, and he again looked lacking and in need of her help. I'm really not sure why Obama would ever want to have her on stage with him. It must have been really difficult, for him. You could tell that even his supporters knew who the real deal was.

Yes, despite the role she had to play, she was a total class act.

BTW, was anyone else gagging at the signs the campaign gave to his followers for the campaign? The "United for Change" signs? *gag*

[Calico]

I was watched the speeches on FoxNews and am wondering did anyone catch what was said between Hillary and BO, before she went to the microphone? I thought I heard this, but wasn't sure, since it was so fast and I was not expecting it:

BO said something along the lines of . . . "not going to talk about it" and something about "speech."

Hillary responded with . . . "don't worry it is all good." (I am fairly certain that is what she said.)

And, then she pointed to something in the crowd. And, started her speech.

Just wondering . . . wish I had recorded it.

[reddirtgirl]

I was watched the speeches on FoxNews and am wondering did anyone catch what was said between Hillary and BO, before she went to the microphone? I thought I heard this, but wasn't sure, since it was so fast and I was not expecting it:

BO said something along the lines of . . . "not going to talk about it" and something about "speech."

Hillary responded with . . . "don't worry it is all good." (I am fairly certain that is what she said.)

And, then she pointed to something in the crowd. And, started her speech.

Just wondering . . . wish I had recorded it.



I read or heard somewhere that Hillary wrote her speech and refused to allow BOzo's people to review it. So I assume he had no idea what she was going to say HA! Love it! Still showing her power over him!

I caught a few words between them, but don't remember now what i heard (yeah, I broke down and watched the re-run on CSPAN). You may be referring to the point where she said to him "Look at that t-shirt...." couldn't hear the rest of it.

Does anyone know who the women in yellow t-shirts were? There was only a side shot, so couldn't read what the tees said. They also had on hats which appeared to say "Peace".

Two things stood out for me. One was that BOzo is really a poor speaker. He stumbles quite a lot, even when he's reading his own damn speech. Hillary did definitely outshine him all the way around. And 2nd, did anyone else notice how FAST Hillary exited that stage? LOL She lit off of there like a house afire!

[Bad Kitty]

Does anyone know who the women in yellow t-shirts were? There was only a side shot, so couldn't read what the tees said. They also had on hats which appeared to say "Peace".

Hopefully they said "Take Your Unity and Shove It!".

[lynfreedom]

I think he probably feels inferior on the same stage as she is on so does worse than even the usual.

I have the utube links for the speech but I have not been able to get myself to listen to it yet. Probably later today.

Just caught the very end on one of the local stations where they were talking with a spectator about not voting for Obama. Didn't hear the reporter but heard the woman say...

I am not bitter...I am just informed!


I loved that comment..wish I had heard the whole discussion.

[Bad Kitty]

I think he probably feels inferior on the same stage as she is on so does worse than even the usual.


He should feel inferior because he probably doesn't know half of the big words she is saying.

[Morgan]

I think he probably feels inferior on the same stage as she is on so does worse than even the usual.

I have the utube links for the speech but I have not been able to get myself to listen to it yet. Probably later today.

Just caught the very end on one of the local stations where they were talking with a spectator about not voting for Obama. Didn't hear the reporter but heard the woman say...

I am not bitter...I am just informed!


I loved that comment..wish I had heard the whole discussion.


Sorry Lyn, I disagree about him feeling inferior. I think he thinks very highly of himself and can do no wrong. He thinks the sun revolves around him.

[Angelica91]

UNITY??? Ever with that man! Hillary '08! This is my one unity!
HILLARY AT WHITE HOUSE NOW!

[Bad Kitty]

Yeah the word unity has become a four letter word to me lately.

[marcelmarcel]

Just caught the very end on one of the local stations where they were talking with a spectator about not voting for Obama. Didn't hear the reporter but heard the woman say...

I am not bitter...I am just informed!


I loved that comment..wish I had heard the whole discussion.


This was my very dear friend C. She is a wonderful speaker! We both drove up to Unity from MA.

You were right: Hillary did outshine BHO! The audience was very friendly. They both got equal cheering and applause.
The Mayor of Unity. Upon greeting the audience, he said he is a Republican and will vote for McCain. When he said that -- he got considerable applause as well, LOL!
I will write more later. To sum up though: There were about 10 PUMA members
We were interviewed by many media outlets: BBC, Al Jazeera, NPR, Der Spiegel, Boston Harold -- to name a few. We were a mighty few and I believe Hillary was well represented.
I will write more later
Cheers!

PS: Luckily you cannot see me. I forgot the sunscreen and I look like a red lobster!
And more: the people with the funny shirts were peace activists.

[reddirtgirl]

Sorry Lyn, I disagree about him feeling inferior. I think he thinks very highly of himself and can do no wrong. He thinks the sun revolves around him.


On the other hand, sometimes when an egomaniacal man is sharing the spotlight with a strong woman, he can get pretty unnerved.

[reddirtgirl]

audience was very friendly. They both got equal cheering and applause.
The Mayor of Unity. Upon greeting the audience, he said he is a Republican and will vote for McCain. When he said that -- he got considerable applause as well, LOL!

:D:p No wonder they call it Unity, NH!! What an agreeable bunch!:D

I groaned out loud when they started chanting "Yes we can", but then I LOVED it when immediately afterwards some woman bless her soul yelled out "Hill-ar-y!" and got the crowd going for us too! I was so afraid they weren't going to respond back to his highness.

So glad you represented Hillary and us so well! And thanks for the explanation about the peace activists.

[Kbentleyis]

I sure wish I could have been there. I would have chanted "Hillary" too. I couldn't watch it because it bothers me to see her with him.

[Soren]

Hillary way outshone him. He was laundry list; she was here and now and radiant and unbelievably strong.

HE MADE AN INTERESTING FREUDIAN SLIP while .... oh, I just heard him make another one. He said, "You can join Senator Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ..." he put her first.

His slip was when he tried to quote Anne Richards. He said while commenting on the historic nature of her campaign, "She proved that women can do everything that men can do, only better." He meant, "backwards." He said "better!" Bingo!

Anne Richards quote is that Ginger Rogers could do everything Fred Astaire could do, and "she did it backwords and in high heels."

[Tea toaD]

Hillary way outshone him. He was laundry list; she was here and now and radiant and unbelievably strong.

HE MADE AN INTERESTING FREUDIAN SLIP while .... oh, I just heard him make another one. He said, "You can join Senator Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ..." he put her first.

His slip was when he tried to quote Anne Richards. He said while commenting on the historic nature of her campaign, "She proved that women can do everything that men can do, only better." He meant, "backwards." He said "better!" Bingo!

Anne Richards quote is that Ginger Rogers could do everything Fred Astaire could do, and "she did it backwords and in high heels."

I remember a clip on the news during NC Primary when a woman asked him to quote a passage from the bible. He was talking about this and that and tried to reference it but couldn't quote which passage:rolleyes: She looked stunned but probably still voted for him:confused:

[Brooke]

I got Hillary's "Unity" email today and decided to try watching the video from yesterday and I got about halfway through where she's talking about McCain staying in Iraq for decades and the SC Roe v. Wade thing. The whole "I strongly urge my supporters to reconsider" just had me stewing. I just can't. I found myself talking to the screen "Hillary, I love you, I do, but I can't, and I can't keep listening to you sing praises for the fraud sitting right next to you"

If she is just simply doing this for party unity and reading a speech, she's doing a great job at being sincere because I almost started to feel guilty.

Anyway, I turned it off almost halfway through.

[samkm]

Same here.

I will not be party to letting the country be blanketed with Chicago style politics. You know from the suspension speech she gave that many of her core messages were not in the Unity meeting.

Didnt change a thing for me. Still in Plan A.