Obama Is Not Telling The Truth About Not Being In Church When Things Were Said!

[debbrad]

I found a piece written by Jim Davis from NewsMax.Thur. Aug 9 2007 I posted about it on my blog.

my blog (http://mccaindemocrats.blogspot.com/)

[G4Hillary]

Now, if they can verify that he was nodding his head while such anti-American and racist things were said, I think that would pretty much be it.

[lucky-ann]

Now, if they can verify that he was nodding his head while such anti-American and racist things were said, I think that would pretty much be it.

do you think there is any chance they can verify it?

[Ohio mom]

I found a piece written by Jim Davis from NewsMax.Thur. Aug 9 2007 I posted about it on my blog.

my blog (http://mccaindemocrats.blogspot.com/)

not sure if this is the same one...this was posted on this forum by someone else(can't remember who) but I sent it to hillaryspeaksforme.com and then I went to the saturday night live site where people can post comments on the site and pasted it there too, and I also sent it to cnn. We need to get this out to everyone!!!
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml

[CGP]

And there is this article where the Rev. Wright disses Natalee Holloway...

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59887

[debbrad]

not sure if this is the same one...this was posted on this forum by someone else(can't remember who) but I sent it to hillaryspeaksforme.com and then I went to the saturday night live site where people can post comments on the site and pasted it there too, and I also sent it to cnn. We need to get this out to everyone!!!
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml

I have been trying to contact as much media as I can find links for. CNN, MSNBC,FOX NEWS, MEET THE PRESS. I have links on my blog to contact media. The more people who send this in the better the chances are they will talk about it. Lou Dobbs had a man on last night from NewsMax, this was before Mr. Obama went on all the networks saying he wasn't there. I think this proves he was not telling the truth. E-mail press, let them know. I will look for more on this subject and put it up on my blog. Have a good day all.

[Christines]

Let's see if we can get a video of Obama at the sermon by Pastor Wright!


Presidential candidate Barack Obama preaches on the campaign trail that America needs a new consensus based on faith and bipartisanship, yet he continues to attend a controversial Chicago church whose pastor routinely refers to "white arrogance" and "the United States of White America."

In fact, Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22.

Obama has spoken and written of his special relationship with that pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

[BooskerD]

Even if he wasn't there on that day, he's doubtless listened to countless similar sermons. It's crazy to think he doesn't share the same feelings as his pastor- after all, this is Obama's spiritual mentor, his friend of 20+ years and his church of choice. If only there were some way we could verify his presence on that day...

[blueskygal]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/us/politics/06obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

I JUST SENT THE OBAMA STORY TO ABC INVESTIGATIVE NEWS. HERE'S ANOTHER STORY ON BO AND WRIGHT.

[Amy Dugan]

Last night on FOX news in an interview, Obama said in response to a question, "Yes I would have stopped attending that church if I knew the sermons were as offensive as the ones showed in your clips of my pastor because I do not at all find that kind of talk acceptable. But all of the services I attended, his sermons were about eternal life through Jesus Christ and how to help the poor as Jesus would." WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday. So this story is likely to continue on into next week. YEY

[Qulin]

Why is it that only Fox is covering this? MSNBC and CNN are Obama's puppets.

[Amy Dugan]

because they Are Fair and Balanced. They dig dirt up on everybody. BUT at least that is fair

[Imwithhillary]

Why is it that only Fox is covering this? MSNBC and CNN are Obama's puppets.

Fox is only covering it because they want to take down Obama; they feel they've already done their job on Hillary. You can bet they'll be backing McCain full steam in the G.E, and attacking whomever gets the Dem nomination.

Still---I'm happy Fox helps open the eyes of some Democrats to Obama's deceit. Heaven knows, none of the other media outlets will be responsible.

[lucky-ann]

yes, we all know Fox will root for McCain as soon as the GE starts...but during the primaries they are probably really the most "fair and balanced" network, at least they hate all democrats the same;) if hillary wins the nomination (and she will!) i will stop watching Fox, should Obama win, i can continue to watch it, because then i root for McCain as well!;)

[blueskygal]

I have had this feeling of knowing every since the day after Ohio.

The truth is coming out. She is a true penny, just like the 91 year old said,
"polished gold."

GO HILLARY!

[Soren]

Even if he wasn't there on that day, he's doubtless listened to countless similar sermons. It's crazy to think he doesn't share the same feelings as his pastor- after all, this is Obama's spiritual mentor, his friend of 20+ years and his church of choice. If only there were some way we could verify his presence on that day...


Um, excuse me Mr. Obama, but aren't these rants by the minister in a boxed set? I heard that FOX just got the boxed set. If that is true, then a reasonable person would conclude that these are seen as "the best of ..." this "spritual mentor."


Who knows if these were in a "boxed set"? I heard that FOX simply bought a boxed set. :rolleyes: I doubt that the gift set is currently available, however.

[Smart cookie]

According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

This is from the Washington Post article. It seems pretty obvious that Obama knows first hand what Wright is like in the pulpit. I wonder if he is referring to the sermons he got up and walked out in protest. Hmmm...

[emmyCA]

I have noticed that anything related to Obama's church and his church websites have been taken off the internet......Hope that it is too late for him to hide information about his lie and his racist church.

Please if you see any important information online about this scandal , take note of the website, save the URL, save the information, just incase it will be gone before we can find it again.

[lucky-ann]

I wonder if he is referring to the sermons he got up and walked out in protest. Hmmm...

that's something i'd like to know as well ;)

[LJSNAustin]

I have noticed that anything related to Obama's church and his church websites have been taken off the internet......Hope that it is too late for him to hide information about his lie and his racist church.

Please if you see any important information online about this scandal , take note of the website, save the URL, save the information, just incase it will be gone before we can find it again.


emmy, I can still access the "church's" website at http://www.tucc.org

[Laura Cereta]

I'm watching Fox News now, and they've started the top of their segment "Beltway Boys", with examples of "how the Clinton campaign is using the race card." So I'm still waiting for the fair and balanced part. They're better than MSNBC, though, and stupid Keith Olbermann!

[sapacey]

Let me get Obama's side straight. He says that normally Wright talks about God, love and helping the poor. So if that is the normal sermon I would think there would be plenty of the talk about a sermon like we saw on tape. Is there really any chance no one said "Obama let me tell you about Rev. Wright's sermon this week"?

[Soren]

it would be pretty hard to wipe the internet clean of residue from the minister
http://mccaindemocrats.blogspot.com/

[october2]

The website for his church has changed fairly recently:

Trinity United Church of Christ

http://web.archive.org/web/20061231183234/http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

As it appears now:

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

[G4Hillary]

Sapacy,

I think you hit the nail on the head. Obama is lying and playing with words in order to conceal the truth.

[GoHillary]

Let me get Obama's side straight. He says that normally Wright talks about God, love and helping the poor. So if that is the normal sermon I would think there would be plenty of the talk about a sermon like we saw on tape. Is there really any chance no one said "Obama let me tell you about Rev. Wright's sermon this week"?

A better question is: did Rev. Wright step up to the pulpit, look around for Obama, not see him and change his sermon because he could say anything he wanted to because the Obama's weren't there? You can't tell me that this was a "once" in a while oops kinda thing. This is something done on a regular basis - the audience wouldn't respond the way they do if it was an OOPS moment. Give me a break BO, you got caught, and don't have someone else to steal your speech from to get out of it!

[lucky-ann]

This is something done on a regular basis - the audience wouldn't respond the way they do if it was an OOPS moment.

that's a very good point...i think most people were shocked -or at least irritated- if they would here something like that the first time! But the audience was absolutely fired up!

[blueskygal]

http://www.tucc.org/pastoral_staff.htm

here's the link to BO's church

[xfiles]

Another way to refute Obmanation is to point out that he disinvited Wright from being on the stage and giving an invocation over a year ago.

Why?

Because he know what Wright was and knew he himself was also what Wright stood for and didn't want to expose himself.

But yesterday Obama lied and said he just recently heard of these sermons and statements of Wright.

Which is it?

He also praises Wright in his memoirs as his mento, teacher, confidante, role model with some controversial quotes there also.

Obamanation is a LIar and dangerous to lead this country.

Maybe he didn't like the Iraq war because his pasator didn't and not because Obamanation is to wise with great judgment as he wants us to believe.

If he agrees with Wright about the US, then maybe as president he wouldn't defend this country properly should it be necessary.

All, very legitimate concerns!

[wv voter]

Now, if they can verify that he was nodding his head while such anti-American and racist things were said, I think that would pretty much be it.

You know what I think would be even better? obama said that the only thing he ever heard when he was in church was sermons on peace and love. So we should ask Obama to produce those tapes where wright is preaching about peace and love, ( they don't exist) and not just one or two considering how long he went there. You would see him really squirm around then. ;)

[wv voter]

Let me get Obama's side straight. He says that normally Wright talks about God, love and helping the poor. So if that is the normal sermon I would think there would be plenty of the talk about a sermon like we saw on tape. Is there really any chance no one said "Obama let me tell you about Rev. Wright's sermon this week"?

I agree. This is a man that obama said was his mentor, and spiritual adviser. And he said he was like an uncle to him. obama went to that church for close to twenty years. How could he not know. He is either lying or he is very unobservent. And if that was the case, I don't want a man in the white house for the next four years that doesn't even know what is going on around him for the last twenty. :eek:

[Ijane]

The depth of Obama's relationship with Wright is well documented which is why this is such an important issue.

A person DOESN'T throw their mentor of 20 years AND 8,000 members of the church under the bus for political gain while running a campaign based on "change you can believe in"!! By doing so he's reduced himself to the sterotypical politician he's trying to convince everyone he's not.

If he were a man that truly believed in himself he would have had no problem standing up and saying, yeah, I go to this church. I believe in this church. I believe in Wright. I understand what his message is and I believe in it and I'm not a racist and this is why...

I think that had he done that he would have been applauded. He would have shown credibility in his campaign. But he didn't do that! He tried to hide a huge part of why he is who he is today...because he didn't think the public would understand. Well what else is there about him that we won't understand?

If I were one of the 8,000 that attends his church, I'd be pissed as hell at Obama right about now! I'd be asking him how he's going to help us after he's just abandoned us. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!!

[Amy Dugan]

curious if this abandonment by Obama of his pastor will upset some black voters. see how PA and NC blacks vote


Has Al Sharpton come out upset at Obama over this shifting of loyalty to Wright?