View Full Version : Obama Busted - Possibly attended controversal sermon one Sunday
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 02:44 PM
Last night on FOX news in an interview, Obama said in response to a question, "Yes I would have stopped attending that church if I knew the sermons were as offensive as the ones showed in your clips of my pastor because I do not at all find that kind of talk acceptable. But all of the services I attended, his sermons were about eternal life through Jesus Christ and how to help the poor as Jesus would." WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday. So this story is likely to continue on into next week. YEY
WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday.
This is what is required.
G4Hillary
03-15-2008, 02:49 PM
Wow! Busted.
PuppyDogMom
03-15-2008, 02:51 PM
I hope this is true. Why would they wait, though? It would be great to have the video released before the Sunday morning pundit barage.:cool:
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 02:55 PM
there is already a more extensive discussion on this in another thread called
Obama Is Not Telling The Truth About Not Being In Church When Things Were Said!
check it out too
Qulin
03-15-2008, 03:04 PM
I can't wait for them to play this, he is so busted.
there is already a more extensive discussion on this in another thread called
Obama Is Not Telling The Truth About Not Being In Church When Things Were Said!
check it out too
It's this thread:
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=1834
Qulin
03-15-2008, 03:23 PM
After they air this Obama should drop out of the race. You know they would want Hillary to do that. I agree with Hannity, he should drop out of the race and resign as the senator.
neutralplayer
03-15-2008, 03:25 PM
If this is true, it is over for Obama.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 03:25 PM
i really feel somewhat mean, but i can't help, i'm just so HAPPY that they have this tape...if it's true and they play it, obama is DONE:D:o;)
ILLHillGuy
03-15-2008, 03:52 PM
i really feel somewhat mean, but i can't help, i'm just so HAPPY that they have this tape...if it's true and they play it, obama is DONE:D:o;)
Dont feel "Mean" lucky...feel fortunate. and KNOW if anything like this came up for another candidate, HE would be calling for a resignation!
emmyCA
03-15-2008, 03:54 PM
We will never heal in this country with people like the Rev Wright spouting his venom. After 9/11 I thought we were finally coming together as a nation. Barack Hussein Obama is a racist and bigot just like his pastor. How can he ever be the President of all the people of the UNITED STATES? By the way Obama never knew what it was to be a "black" boy living in America, he was raised in Hawaii and admitted in his book he never knew what it was to be like other black boys. Obama has not been honest with the American people. The American media should have been investigating Barack Hussein Obama. He should not be running for President. Absolutely No Obama.
blueskygal
03-15-2008, 03:58 PM
It just shows what a hypocrite he is. Willing to divide the nation AGAIN for his own blind personal ambition. He is divisive and a divider just like Bush!
Thank God this story came out.
"By their fruits shall ye know them."
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 04:19 PM
Dont feel "Mean" lucky...feel fortunate. and KNOW if anything like this came up for another candidate, HE would be calling for a resignation!
thx for the advice:D
neutralplayer
03-15-2008, 04:21 PM
So the whole story with NewsMax having a video is accurate... or just a rumour.
jgilmore
03-15-2008, 04:32 PM
We need to encourage Fox so they don't bow out or have someone get to them.
G4Hillary
03-15-2008, 04:39 PM
They don't need a video. They have church members that they can ask to verify. I'm sure someone will talk once you pay them enough.
The republicans are already on this. But somebody needs to release this info soon.
JJ4Hillary
03-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow, odrama is in big trouble. he better drop out now.:D:D
neutralplayer
03-15-2008, 05:13 PM
I'm just hoping this video is credible.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 05:15 PM
They have church members that they can ask to verify.
do they yet have one? but i think a video is much more telling, a church member could speak out against obama because of various reasons...maybe he doesn't like him or they pay him for it or whatever...so i do think we need a video proof if it shell not only bring him in trouble, but bring him down...and apparently we will get it!:D
I hope this has the desired effect of showing Obama's true colors even to his die-hard brainwashed robots. I'd love to see the look on the faces of Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, and Dean when this airs. I wanna see who'll endorse him openly again.
neutralplayer
03-15-2008, 05:33 PM
I think a video is the only thing that could topple Obama.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 05:44 PM
I think a video is the only thing that could topple Obama.
yes, and that it seems like Fox is actually having the video is the fun part!:D
no_more_bush
03-15-2008, 05:50 PM
This is such excellent news. Thank God Fox has the balls to expose Obama for the Fraud he is and thank God Hillary won Ohio and Texas!:D
I would bet money that Obama and the DNC are doing everything in their power to stop this tape from surfacing.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 05:51 PM
yes, but once Fox (or someone on Fox...) said they have the tape, they have to play it, because otherwise they look stupid...
neutralplayer
03-15-2008, 05:55 PM
So FNC actually said they have the tape.
tcbwriter
03-15-2008, 05:56 PM
They don't need a video. They have church members that they can ask to verify. I'm sure someone will talk once you pay them enough.
The republicans are already on this. But somebody needs to release this info soon.
Having a video is worth so much more in my opinion. I know one of the main reasons I didn't believe Jennifer Flowers or Paula Jones was because both of them received a lot of money to "tell their stories". That takes away from any credibility they might have. Actual documentation of his attendance, be it video, in writing or otherwise provides factual evidence on which nobody can legitimately cast aspersions.
josephm
03-15-2008, 05:58 PM
I think this is just the beginning... There is probably more Obama's baggage coming out.... If DNC smart and want to win this year General Election, they would have the two candidates sit down and make a decision to pick Hillary as president nominee and Obama as vice. Then start to heal and bring both side supporters together. However, I am not sure they are that smart or smart enough. Remains to be seen. It could have been a big golden year for the Democratic Party, and it still can if the party acts now.
B positive
03-15-2008, 06:02 PM
from PuppyDogMom:Why would they wait, though? It would be great to have the video released before the Sunday morning pundit barage
NO NO... waiting 'til Monday is perfect. That way it is still in play all wknd and it will be "advertised" as being out there all wknd so that more people will tune in and look for it on Monday.
Also, to lucky-ann, who stated a feeling of guilt for being happy about this. I don't think you should feel guilty for two reasons:
1. FLUFF chose to state that he had never been present during inflammatory sermons. He further stated that had he ever heard these types of comments that he would have quit the church. This is an unforced error on his part.
2. MSM will not be asking for refills on Kool-aid as often.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 06:09 PM
@B positive: thx, good points :D
So FNC actually said they have the tape.
i haven't seen it myself, but someone here wrote they said (or someone from a company who was on as a contributer...but who cares if Fox News or someone else has it...the main thing is it exists :p
edit: okay, i've just been to the Fox News website and there is no evidence, that they have some tape...is it advertised on TV?!
no_more_bush
03-15-2008, 06:32 PM
Wait wait, before we get excited... Is there an actual source that someone can provide a link to? Fox news has spoken about Obama today but not mentioned any evidence they might have that proves he was there, there's also nothing on their site(or any others that I know of) to legitimize the claim that fox has this tape.
Ohio mom
03-15-2008, 06:33 PM
I think this is just the beginning... There is probably more Obama's baggage coming out.... If DNC smart and want to win this year General Election, they would have the two candidates sit down and make a decision to pick Hillary as president nominee and Obama as vice. Then start to heal and bring both side supporters together. However, I am not sure they are that smart or smart enough. Remains to be seen. It could have been a big golden year for the Democratic Party, and it still can if the party acts now.
I DON'T WANT OBAMA ANY WHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER ALL THIS IS OUT!!!!
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 06:37 PM
well, that's the first post:
Last night on FOX news in an interview, Obama said in response to a question, "Yes I would have stopped attending that church if I knew the sermons were as offensive as the ones showed in your clips of my pastor because I do not at all find that kind of talk acceptable. But all of the services I attended, his sermons were about eternal life through Jesus Christ and how to help the poor as Jesus would." WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday. So this story is likely to continue on into next week. YEY
so, I take Amy by her word and hope the best...I mean it seem newsmax (what's that???) has the video, not fox...
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 06:40 PM
I said a guy from NewsMax was on Fox and said NEWSMAX HAS A VIDEO TO BE SHOWN MONDAY!
pearson
03-15-2008, 06:46 PM
I think the other hypocrisy is Obama staying on with the church even though this church awarded Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award. It seems there were enough red flags about Wright and this church that Obama should have left long ago.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 06:46 PM
great! :D thank you, i was just confused that there was nothing about it on the Fox News web site (at least i didn't find it) and i thought it would be big news for them, even if they don't have the tape themselves...but now I'm eased and can't wait till monday!:p
memphis
03-15-2008, 06:46 PM
Anything could happen between now and Monday. Why would he announce versus just showing it. Is he wanting someone to buy him out?
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 06:47 PM
extreme right group
go to newsmax.com
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 06:54 PM
okay thanx, do they have a promotion for the video on their site?
abigailadams
03-15-2008, 07:05 PM
Yes, I think the Farrakahn stuff will be the second part to all of this. Farrakahn went to Libya to with Rev. Wright in 1984 to visit Kaddafi. Now, I ask all of you here, if HRC had a pastor like Wright who went to LIBYA to meet Kaddafi do you honestly think she would be campaigning still? This is how coddled Barack has been in this primary.
RUSSERT: The title of one of your books, Audacity of Hope, you acknowledge you got from a sermon from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the head of the Trinity United Church. He said that Louis Farrakhan "epitomizes greatness." He said that he went to Libya in 1984 with Louis Farrakhan to visit with Muammar Qaddafi and that, when your political opponents found out about that, quote, "your Jewish support would dry up quicker than a snowball in Hell."http://mediamatters.org/items/200802270006
TeejDee
03-15-2008, 07:14 PM
After a lecture he gave at Johns Hopkins University in 1993, Barack Obama was overheard and caught on tape muttering to a close associate, "F**k the white man." This story and the full transcript, I have been assured, will hit the news media hard on Monday or Tuesday of next week.
Only Hillary has managed to stay out of the racially charged atmosphere this week. If she can distance herself, she might have a chance when this is all over. Of course, it make be over for Obama sooner than later.
Posted by: TonyaSigne | March 15, 2008 12:56 PM
This was a blog on Baltimoresun.com
Its going to come crumbling down on him very soon.........
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 07:17 PM
okay, i really have no time for feeling guilty because i'm happy about this. Yeah!!!:D;)
Jayling
03-15-2008, 07:22 PM
Have a direct linky, TeeJDee?
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Juan Williams (black commentater on Fox ) just said "the mainstream American media came down hard after Geraldine's comments, have been quite hard on Hillary, but seem to want to give the Rev Wright comments a pass, as just black politics. They should look at his relationship with Obama. He {Obama} has known this pastor a long while"
TeejDee
03-15-2008, 07:24 PM
Confession I don't know how to get it here...sorry
B positive
03-15-2008, 07:31 PM
A NewsMax article written by Jim Davis, August 9, 2007, says Barack Obama was in attendance at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago on July 22, 2007, when Davis attended the service.
In that service, Davis says Jeremiah Wright used profanity throughout the message and referred to the "United States of White America," and "white arrongance" during his sermon - to nodding agreement by Barack Obama.
Here is Davis' account of the 8/9/08 service he attended last August. It is quite long and the FLUFF nodding statement is just past half-way down the page:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml?s=lh
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 07:34 PM
is BO also nodding in the video they have? Because if yes, he isn't just done, then he's really absolutely toast!:D
xfiles
03-15-2008, 07:53 PM
TeejDee,
Go to the link where this video or text is and in your browser window at the top of your page it will say: http://www.blog.....com....maybe /net. or /something after it. Copy the whole thing (make it blue with your left click button) then right click. It will give you a drop down window of cut, copy, paste, delete, etc. Choose "copy" and click on it. Now it's pasted to your clipboard. Come here and "paste" it into the reply window.
(paste your cursor in the window,right click and paste it) Now the link is posted in the window and you can submit.
I really want to see it/hear it/read it. Thanks so much!
Jayling
03-15-2008, 07:58 PM
I did a search and found the reference TeeJDee was talking about. It's down in the Comments section:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/is_there_a_double_standard_for.html
All Just heresay though until something more tangible is found.
xfiles
03-15-2008, 08:11 PM
Jayling, I don't have time right now to read through it but if you can, post here who the poster was or whatever. I think we should ask that person for a link to this information. (not sure if there is a way to contact the person with a PM on that blog)
Anyway, I'll take a closer look when I get back. Thanks!
I think this is just the beginning... There is probably more Obama's baggage coming out.... If DNC smart and want to win this year General Election, they would have the two candidates sit down and make a decision to pick Hillary as president nominee and Obama as vice. Then start to heal and bring both side supporters together. However, I am not sure they are that smart or smart enough. Remains to be seen. It could have been a big golden year for the Democratic Party, and it still can if the party acts now.
Here's my prediction:
I think Hillary's going to thrash Obama in the remaining states. In which case, she'll have more of the popular vote. All Hobama can say in that case is "the people have spoken, congratulations, see ya later, bye."
I think the backlash is going to be bad, so bad that he won't even be a viable pick for VP. She picks Edwards.
To recap:
*Hillary resoundingly wins all the remaining states
*Barack concedes a fair defeat and leaves the scene
*Hill picks John Edwards to fill the VP spot
Should we get a pool going? (Hey, I live in Vegas--whaddya expect! ;))
xfiles
03-15-2008, 08:28 PM
Before I go out to dinner, I was just thinking....
Obama said he would not now leave the church. He has about 6-8000 church family members.
Are we to believe he wants to continue to associate with people who have been endoctrinated in the ways and ideals of Wright?
Certainly many, many of them heard Wright's vitriol and support it--think much like he does.
So, Obama is really continuing to align himself with this church and these beliefs of its former "pastor" and current members.
We should bring that out also....
TeejDee
03-15-2008, 08:35 PM
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/is_there_a_double_standard_for.html
Thanks Jayling now I know how......
It may be hearsay but it may not...I am hopeful
G4Hillary
03-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Julianne,
I think you are right. Obama is destroying his career right now. He will not be a viable pick for VP, not that I could stand him anyways.
I think it will be someone else and Obama will go back to Chicago to see if he can still win in his Senate seat back. After all the controversy around him, he's going to have a difficult time at that.
is BO also nodding in the video they have? Because if yes, he isn't just done, then he's really absolutely toast!:D
LOL! That's for sure. And if he's saying amen, he'll be breadcrumbs!
TeejDee
03-15-2008, 08:39 PM
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/is_there_a_double_standard_for.html
Thanks Jayling now I know how.
I maybe hearsay but it may not...I am hopeful...
luvhillary
03-15-2008, 08:43 PM
Wow! I thought I was good at doing my research, but you are the Queen. I am so impressed with how much you know and how fast you respond. I'm glad you are on our side!:)
Amy Dugan
03-15-2008, 08:47 PM
I think he will quit that church and by March 22 (Easter Sunday) the Messiah will rise from the dead, resurrected from political death by the mainstream media who always hated the Clintons.
Sorry guys, but we keep getting unpleasantly surprised like now when the Iowa delegate vote today showing Obama gaining more delegates. Edwards supporters picked Obama over Hillary, EVEN after WRIGHT!
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 08:55 PM
well, i don't really think so, i suppose your right if this mysterious video won't come out, but if there is really such a video with him in the audience, i'm pretty sure it will stick! let's be positive guys! especially because it's very likely that hillary will win PA (unimportant which media coverage leads up to that contest) and than she has the momentum to go on!:)
G4Hillary
03-15-2008, 09:00 PM
Amy,
Though I acknowledge the fact that Edwards delegates favored RezkObama, I think we should remember this is Iowa. For some odd reason they have been the worst state for both Bill and Hillary.
I really don't understand Iowa. I don't think most people do. That is more reason why they should not be amongst the first two states voting in the primaries. Reform is long overdue.
It seems very polar extreme in Iowa. If you analyze how Huckabee and Obama won you realize those two are the most extreme of both parties. Huckabee to the far right and Obama far left.
lucky-ann
03-15-2008, 09:03 PM
ditto, if the election had started in whichever state except for iowa hillary would long have the nomination safe...
B positive
03-15-2008, 09:33 PM
From: by JoePittsburgh on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54:14 PM EST
posted on:http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/13/14167/3166
Just imagine if we discovered that Hillary had been attending KKK rallies every week for over 20 years and had called the Imperial Wizard (or whatever it is those crazy sh*theads call their leader) her spiritual adviser. Would we allow her to dismiss it by saying, "there are some things I disagree with him about"? Would we demand that she remove him from her campaign? Hell, no! We'd be demanding to know why the hell she went to Klan rallies for over 20 years, and in short order we'd declare her unfit for the Presidency.
This quote says it all! FLUFF needs to leave the race right now! Oh, and he need not throw his support to Hillary... no dirt on her bright red pantsuit, please!
abigailadams
03-16-2008, 01:18 AM
Amy, Was the guy on FOX who said he had a tape Jim Davis who wrote the article (cited in this thread) from Newsmax?
If he does have this video this is huge.
Amy Dugan
03-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Go to this article below just out today. I think it sounds very similar to what I heard being discussed on Fox (see my initial post) Sorry I don't know how you IT people paste a purple post
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/03/16/what-did-obama-know-about-his-pastor-s-hateful-sermons
Carolyn
03-16-2008, 06:32 PM
I don't know about a tape, but here's a link to a newsmax August 2007 report in which a reporter attending one of Wright's sermons noted that, "Wright laced into America's establishment, blaming the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the "United States of White America." Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made."
archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml
Carolyn
03-16-2008, 06:52 PM
Here's the link to the Newsmax article by Jim Davis, a reporter who attended one of Wright's sermons in August 2007 also attended by Obama. He noted that, "Wright laced into America's establishment, blaming the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the "United States of White America." Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made." :rolleyes:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml
tcbwriter
03-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Here's the link to the Newsmax article by Jim Davis, a reporter who attended one of Wright's sermons in August 2007 also attended by Obama. He noted that, "Wright laced into America's establishment, blaming the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the "United States of White America." Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made." :rolleyes:
archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml
Interesting that the story was written in August, 2007 but nobody has cared enough to mention it on TV/Cable News. I'd heard a few grumblings here or there but assumed it was more of that "he's a Muslim" stuff. I can't believe I was still naiive enough to believe that a story as big as this has become would have been reported on by the big guys if there was any validity to it.
As it is, I was recently accused by a friend (Hillary supporter) as trying to demonize Obama for forwarding an article about this . . . People still don't want to know.
G4Hillary
03-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Wow, this is a great article Amy.
And yet no one wants to ask him the tough questions. I think that is precisely why he is not doing an interview with FOX. Everyone else is in the tank for this guy. I hope ABC or FOX really digs into this.
Amy Dugan
03-16-2008, 07:55 PM
Tcwriter
i agree
i am leary. afterall, much of this info was actually reported on and responded to by obama in the spring and summer and mr. hope is ahead in the race. not sure how this time around is different.
stinks for hillary
SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 07:59 PM
The News only Want Ratings. So, we know that we need those videos to come out and we need them coming through the News Media. We need to keep this topic up all day. We need to keep making noise about it. My partner has been hitting the YouTube Videos over and over because they also keep track of people watching those. So, keep watching and collecting those videos on YouTube. They are watching: We want them to Watch Us Watch them!
G4Hillary
03-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Amy,
Remember it's all about ratings and readership!
If we keep pushing ABC and FOX they will keep investigating. The dirty laundry will all be out for everyone to see.
If we show interest they will go for it. It's all about money for them.
lucky-ann
03-16-2008, 08:05 PM
Amy,
Remember it's all about ratings and readership!
If we keep pushing ABC and FOX they will keep investigating. The dirty laundry will all be out for everyone to see.
If we show interest they will go for it. It's all about money for them.
exactly and fox had the highest ratings of the three major cable networks when it went after the story...so i'm pretty sure they keep it up! I think the major reason that it wasn't a big story in 2007 was that at this time nobody really took obama's candidacy seriously...okay that's maybe a bit exaggerated, but hillary was the likely nominee and clear front runner...
Amy Dugan
03-16-2008, 08:07 PM
good point. front runners have a bullseye on them
UpstateNYRN
03-16-2008, 10:06 PM
O boy ma! :eek: I can't wait to see the fall out from this one. :D
UpstateNYRN
neutralplayer
03-16-2008, 10:16 PM
I'm just waiting until tomorrow to see if this tape thing pans out.
lucky-ann
03-16-2008, 10:20 PM
me too...i don't want to get to excited about this video until i actually watch it...
emmyCA
03-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Last night on FOX news in an interview, Obama said in response to a question, "Yes I would have stopped attending that church if I knew the sermons were as offensive as the ones showed in your clips of my pastor because I do not at all find that kind of talk acceptable. But all of the services I attended, his sermons were about eternal life through Jesus Christ and how to help the poor as Jesus would." WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday. So this story is likely to continue on into next week. YEY
I hope it is true. There should be people who attended that church coming out the tell the truth about Mr Wright and his racist political point of view on his sunday speech...I hope there are people taking courage coming out to talk about this...
emmyCA
03-16-2008, 10:31 PM
They don't need a video. They have church members that they can ask to verify. I'm sure someone will talk once you pay them enough.
The republicans are already on this. But somebody needs to release this info soon.
I think Repbulican is investigating witnesses from the church goers so they can use these stories against Obama on general election if Obama wins nominee...Obama needs to step down NOW so the party can be united. It he is smart, he needs to step down and accept the VP before it is too late. He is not going to win the nominee and I don't think he can continue as a senator as well.
mrkalbo
03-16-2008, 10:40 PM
All I can say is that BO's political future is almost at the end. Within days from now, he will quit the race and endorsed Hillary so he can become her veep...but NOT to fast senior BO, you're done and even your seat in the U.S. senate will be in jeopardy.
Musicdude
04-05-2008, 02:21 PM
I'm just going to repost what I said on April 1, in another thread...
Obama should stay in the race at least until a tape is found of him applauding Rev Wright's hate mongering in church.
Then it's Game over. We don't want him coming back in 2012. :D
Musicdude
04-07-2008, 07:43 PM
WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday.
Well....it's Monday. Haven't seen it. Anyone else?
Ohio mom
04-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Well....it's Monday. Haven't seen it. Anyone else?
I stopped watching all news stations...can't take it!!! Keep us posted if you hear anything or could you provide a link???
Mrsawd
04-07-2008, 08:19 PM
That we find some kind of proof and that we can spread the word of knowledge about Obama s ignorances I pray all the time that proof comes forward that will make the goverment have to stop him running as President of our Counrty I feel they already have enough proof to stop him due to suspicisions of terrorist and terrorist ties ! !
nette60
04-07-2008, 08:38 PM
Last night on FOX news in an interview, Obama said in response to a question, "Yes I would have stopped attending that church if I knew the sermons were as offensive as the ones showed in your clips of my pastor because I do not at all find that kind of talk acceptable. But all of the services I attended, his sermons were about eternal life through Jesus Christ and how to help the poor as Jesus would." WELL, a guy from NewsMax was on FOX news just said they have video proof of Obama in attendance during at least 1 of these controversial sermons. He said it will be aired Monday. So this story is likely to continue on into next week. YEY
They already have videos of him in the church many times....The point is the media knows it and so do the superdelegates but they still try to 'push' him through...It should be shown all over the news as was Hillarys Bosnia gaff(which pales in comparison) How many times has Obama visited troops?
It disturbs me so much how the media spins everything against Hillary. Maybe Fox will have the guts to show it.
Musicdude
04-13-2008, 05:28 AM
This thread doesn't make sense. Can someone explain?
Why would there be a grand conspiracy amongst everyone including Fox to not show such a tape?
...assuming it actually exists.
xfiles
04-13-2008, 05:36 PM
I can't comment about a grand conspiricy but I did see a clip of Obama at a sermon nodding his head and clapping. I don't know if it was a controversial one but I suspect most or all of Wright's sermons were a little "rough" as Obama told him when disinviting him from his announcement to run for president (which by the way, he said he wouldn't do, ie. run for president).
Most MSM, networks, etc. are afraid of offending Obama since they hope he will grant them interviews and access should he become president.
They don't mind offending Hillary since they know she'll be gracious and statesment-like in granting them access to her presidency.
For whatever reasons, Obama is the "annointed" candidate and too much neg. cannot be allowed to be reported about him.
Gypsy
04-14-2008, 02:36 PM
Here is the latest polls I found today, and this is a direct quote.
A new poll by the American Research Group has Hillary Clinton with a 20-point lead in Pennsylvania over Barack Obama, just over a week before that state’s April 22nd primary. Clinton leads in the survey 57 percent to 37 percent and that’s a huge turnaround from the ARG poll earlier this month which had the race deadlocked at 45 percent each. According to the poll, Clinton leads among white voters 64 percent to 29 percent. Moreover, 10 percent of respondents in the poll said they would never vote for Clinton in the primary while 24 percent said they would never support Obama.
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