(March 15, 2008): "Pelosi's Delegate Stance Boosts Obama" (AP)

[G4Hillary]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbmaeGHPflyoZifK0IsXS9tCsWvwD8VE3FU00

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses, a declaration that gives a boost to Sen. Barack Obama.

Pelosi has just confirmed what we already knew about her. She has come out of the closet at last. This traitor to feminists, who made her who she is, should be shown the door in the next election. Time for you to go home Nancy.

[lucky-ann]

first of all: even someone as stupid as Nancy Pelosi has to know that the delegate count is meaningless when the candidate with fewer dlegates won the popular vote, which really represent the will of the people.

second: so she really want to nominate someone who's pastor for 20 years said things like "god damn america"? the people who voted up to now didn't know about that and i promise you, the republicans will destroy him...

third: i hate pelosi anyway;)

[Sherry]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbmaeGHPflyoZifK0IsXS9tCsWvwD8VE3FU00



Pelosi has just confirmed what we already knew about her. She has come out of the closet at last. This traitor to feminists, who made her who she is, should be shown the door in the next election. Time for you to go home Nancy.

I know that's right!!!!

[B positive]

How can Pelosi support someone who is now soooo unelectable! :confused:

[diane]

"....it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses,"

Wow! So now it's our own Government Leader's who are insinuating, once again, that any vote for Hillary is somehow against the "will of the people". Please please PLEASE let PA be a landslide!! and every other State after that! I still can't believe that after winning all the BIG STATES and KNOWING it's going to be a close race---that these people are inferring that any Super Delegate vote for Hillary is against the will of the people! Aren't all of us from those States who voted for Hillary part of the "people" whose "will: they keep talking about?! Now I have to call, phone, fax and email MADAM SPEAKER and remind her that this is a close race and will be and votes for Hillary are not against the people....they're reflecting half of the population that voted for HER!!!

[Les33]

are we allowed to say that word that means female dog?

[hobbitt]

[QUOTE=diane;13319]"....it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses,"


Today:

"California voters set a record, of sorts, in the Feb. 5 presidential nominating contest.

Secretary of State Debra Bowen says just over 9 million voters cast ballots, the most ever in a California primary.

In the popular vote, Clinton beat Obama by 8 points. She received 51.5 percent to his 43.2 percent "

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Nancy Scrooge Pelosi just might be looking at Election Future here.

"and the results are in! Pelosi 43.2 per cent, Anyone Else, 51.5 per cent"

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Nancy's email address for non-Californians:

AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

And for Californians:

sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

[AdrienneJ]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbmaeGHPflyoZifK0IsXS9tCsWvwD8VE3FU00



Pelosi has just confirmed what we already knew about her. She has come out of the closet at last. This traitor to feminists, who made her who she is, should be shown the door in the next election. Time for you to go home Nancy.

I'm with you. When I was making calls to Texas, I spoke to some savvy grandma who had the same suspicions about Nancy. What's funny is I've seen Pelosi's daughter on numerous shows saying that superdelegates should vote in accordance with the general popular vote-- and that her mother had the same viewpoint. Well, mama ain't right in the head, obviously. I hope the daughter stands by her viewpoint. Or maybe I just misheard. Maybe I censored what the daughter said so my brain wouldn't explode. We've seen how downright idiotic the selection of the delegates is. If you really want a headache, read how Texas allocates even the primary votes (forget about the caucas votes-- I want you to be able to sleep at night.) The Texas democratic party decided to weigh votes (and thus assignment of delegates) based on how Texas voters had voted in the previous presidential election in which John Kerry was nominee. Now how is that for utterly bizarre? Linking the 2008 candidate to Kerry's failed run. Oh my goodness...

We know that the delegates don't mirror the people. If the dem "leaders"
(and I use that terms very loosely) say they want to show what the people want-- wouldn't it be obvious to go by the PEOPLES VOTE???!!! It isn't very hard. It's not like you need a calculator or a road map. These "leaders" seem so hell bent (and I mean both for their headstrong position and their possible ultimate personal location)-- they are just trying to take the 'democratic' out of our party. I guess it will soon just be known as
"the party."

As for possible future leaders named Nancy... anyone know where we can get ahold of Nancy Drew? Now her, I like. Leadership, intelligence, loyalty to her female buddies, strength, creativity. Can we get her to take Pelosi's place? (As an extra bonus, Ms. Drew could probably solve the mystery behind Obama's candidacy, to boot.)

Oh, one other thing...
I've been wondering why these dem "leaders" are so hot for Obama. I think I've got it. It's because when you have a really incompetent person in charge of an organization, all of middle management gets to run around doing whatever they want. So to Pelosi, etc. Obama means unfettered freedom to do as they like. No one to account to. Ah... doesn't that feel nice? But have someone who is a true leader, and you might just be asked to be accountable. You might actually be expected to produce results and to do your job. For people who are ready to work, who want to work-- there is nothing better in the world than a good boss. For those who want to play the middle-management thug role, nothing worse than a good boss.

To quote Cindy Lauper: "I see your true colors shining through..."

[G4Hillary]

AdrienneJ,

I think I've got it. It's because when you have a really incompetent person in charge of an organization, all of middle management gets to run around doing whatever they want. So to Pelosi, etc. Obama means unfettered freedom to do as they like. No one to account to. Ah... doesn't that feel nice? But have someone who is a true leader, and you might just be asked to be accountable. You might actually be expected to produce results and to do your job. For people who are ready to work, who want to work-- there is nothing better in the world than a good boss. For those who want to play the middle-management thug role, nothing worse than a good boss.


I never saw it from that angle. Good point! What did they call Nixon..oh yeah, "tricky dick." We'd have to find similar name for Nancy because her motives are so selfish.

[joeysky18]

another bad apple.

[neutralplayer]

The only thing is the superdelegates are suppose to vote "independently" of the delegates chosen.

Obama & Friends say they opposes changing the rules in the middle of the game. So I suggest they practice what they preach.

[B positive]

From AdrienneJ: I've been wondering why these dem "leaders" are so hot for Obama. I think I've got it. It's because when you have a really incompetent person in charge of an organization, all of middle management gets to run around doing whatever they want.

Yes- this is exactly how I see it


P.S.
AdrienneJ- the entire original post was right on and humorous, too :) always a plus!

[Disfranchised]

Hmm! Her district is the Eighth District which includes most of the City of San Francisco including Golden Gate Park, Fisherman's Wharf, Chinatown, and many of the diverse neighborhoods that make San Francisco a vibrant and prosperous community!
Take your time NANCY! You should have learned from Daschel's mistakes!

[joeysky18]

http://speaker.house.gov/contact/


Could all US citizen here in the blog send email to Pelosi please?

Tell her to stop weighting her comment in public. If she has something to say about DEM party rules and regulation, call a meeting and discuss it with her peer. She is contributing in the mess created in this DEM primary.

Stop making more comment that will further driven apart the supporters of DEM party.

[floorrunner]

She is just jealous that she will never be where Hillary is.

[B positive]

She is just jealous that she will never be where Hillary is.

Yes, I am beginning to think this is true... and I just don't see how... they are of approximately the same generation. Pelosi knows they fight the same battles. Why would she do this?

Oprah & Pelosi... I can't help but see them as traitors... maybe I'm wrong but I really don't think I am... not on this. :confused::(

[JamieKuuipo]

I SAW THAT RIGHT AWAY SHE'S JEALOUS, LET HER TALK, SHE WILL HANG HERSELF AS THEY SAY.

SHE;S STUPID!

I wonder how Teddy kennedy , and family taking the Obama preacher think,
do you think he will distance himself, or continue to make a fool of
him self , or per peloski he should have to vote for HILLARY ! HA

BECAUSE HILLARY WON IN MASS

WILL HE STAND BY HIS MAN, OR HAVE THE GUTS TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!

[sapacey]

I have always thought the DEM's that want Obama want him because they can control him. If he gets the nomination I'll vote for McCain and maybe even turn Republican permenately. All of a sudden the Democractic party is looking pretty stupid. Except Hilary of course.

[Soren]

Rules do not change when the game is in play. Superdelegates since the 1980s are the rules of the Democratic Party nominating process. Your job as Speaker of the House does not include swaying Superdelegates to vote according only to one of the several principles that are intended to guide them: electability, effectiveness, delegate vote, popular vote - the combination of which, in the mind of the Superdelegate, leads to what is called, democratically, conscience. That is, their conscience, Speaker Pelosi, not your conscience - which is for Senator Obama. Their conscience might be for Senator Clinton. You don't know.

You, like so many others, claim to be neutral which only makes me wonder how unaware you are of the transparency of your actions. I am disappointed in the way your character is playing out its role. I had been so happy to see you sitting right there for the Inaugural Address on your Day One. How disappointing have been your days since then.

[G4Hillary]

Rules do not change when the game is in play. Superdelegates since the 1980s are the rules of the Democratic Party nominating process. Your job as Speaker of the House does not include swaying Superdelegates to vote according only to one of the several principles that are intended to guide them: electability, effectiveness, delegate vote, popular vote - the combination of which, in the mind of the Superdelegate, leads to what is called, democratically, conscience. That is, their conscience, Speaker Pelosi, not your conscience - which is for Senator Obama. Their conscience might be for Senator Clinton. You don't know.

You, like so many others, claim to be neutral which only makes me wonder how unaware you are of the transparency of your actions. I am disappointed in the way your character is playing out its role. I had been so happy to see you sitting right there for the Inaugural Address on your Day One. How disappointing have been your days since then.
Right on Soren!

[Les33]

I wrote to her:

The Superdelegates are charged with a clear duty and don't require further directive. Your decision to enter into the fray serves no purpose, other than as an attempt to manipulate the nomination process to benefit one candidate over another. It is neither neutral nor democratic. As a lifelong Democrat, I wish to have it on record that you do not "speak" for me.

[G4Hillary]

Les,

Great work. She needs to know. I also wrote here a note. My family lives around her district and I have a friend who held a fundraiser for her. I will encourage everyone I know from the San Francisco area to support her opponent in the next election. She can't get anything done in the Congress as it is.

[Joe from WI]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbmaeGHPflyoZifK0IsXS9tCsWvwD8VE3FU00
Pelosi has just confirmed what we already knew about her. She has come out of the closet at last. This traitor to feminists, who made her who she is, should be shown the door in the next election. Time for you to go home Nancy.


DNC, Dean, Pelosi -- are you so desperate to force us core democrats to sit out the GE or vote Mccain? Is that what you really want?

[Dendy]

I don’t know why anybody will listen to what Pelosi has to say.
But if thing keep going the way they are and all those people do everything in there power to get rid of Hillary then I’m not going to be sorry to see them all lose in November.
In 4 years they’ll be begging her to run again.

[KarenN-LA]

I am a Southern California girl who has always wondered about Pelosi. I am a moderate and Pelosi is extreme, as many are in the San Francisco area.

I am glad that my Senators - Feinstein and Boxer - are for the California people and what we want.

I believe that San Francisco county (where Pelosi resides) supported Obama, one of the few counties in the entire state that did.

I used to support Pelosi until this last CA primary election.

[EH]

She is just jealous that she will never be where Hillary is.

Right on! Apart from all those facelifts that are starting to make her look like Joyce Wildenstein, you almost wanna pray the Dems lose Congress as well if Fluff is the nominee so she can just get the hell out! She's as slimy as a snake!

[AdrienneJ]

Soren and Les33,
You are absolutely right about the role of the superdelegates. In my earlier post, I was addressing why the delegates (not superdelegates) are a poorer snap-shot of the actual 'voice of the people' than the popular vote.

The superdelegates were created with the intention that they would be casting their support to whomever they individually felt would be the stronger candidate for the party. They actually were created in part to avoid a kind of mob take over of the party by a weaker candidate (go figure!) To be even more dry, in "The Federalist Papers" James Madison wrote that factionalism was a great danger to the country and that is why we needed a system of checks and balances. I believe that the superdelegates were created along that same line of reason. But that's just my opinion. There is all manner of stuff written about them which states they are to use their best judgement. If they weren't to be an independent voice in the nominee selection, there would be absolutely no reason for them to have been created in the first place. What does Nancy not understand?

As you all have stated, the superdelegates will be considering a number of factors in their choice of who to support for the dem presidential candidate. Two factors that perhaps might be in opposition to each other (but hopefully not) are the "awarded delegates" and the popular vote compiled from the primaries. Hillary should have the popular vote lead by the time of the convention. This is simply a good fact for superdelegates to point to in order to silence their critics. The mob (and hopefully there will be no mob- but if there is one) will have a hard time saying that the superdelegates should follow the awarded delegate leader rather than the true, clear voice of the people as seen in the popular vote. Daschle tried it, and he really looked ridiculous in the attempt.

Superdelegates do not have to make their decision on some simple mathematical formula either. Their job is to choose the best nominee. The do not have to weigh awarded delegates or the popular vote in any pre-determined manner.

[mooaks]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses, a declaration that gives a boost to Sen. Barack Obama.

She should talk with Geraldine Ferraro about whether delegate count should rule the decision making process. She would find out that Pelosi's opinion is bunk.
Bye! Bye! Nancy, The only thing that impresses me about you, is your lack of impressiveness.

[Disfranchised]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080316/pl_bloomberg/adf5jjbbppxw

[lanney]

Pelosi needs another shot of Botox.

[Qulin]

Pelosi is a traitor, she has not done one thing for us dems. She needs to go and soon!