View Full Version : Pelosi is in the tank too
LJSNAustin
03-15-2008, 07:52 PM
I wish she would just HUSH!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/15/pelosi-superdelegates-may-do-damage/#comment-735038
email her here (http://speaker.house.gov/contact/)
RayinAR
03-15-2008, 08:07 PM
I wish she would just HUSH!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/15/pelosi-superdelegates-may-do-damage/#comment-735038
email her here (http://speaker.house.gov/contact/)
I wish her district would vote her out in this next election. She needs a very strong opponent.
B positive
03-15-2008, 08:30 PM
http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
Go there and tell her what you think of her comments and how they are out of step with her pledge to remain neutral.
I sent her an eLETTER yesterday stating her comments to be RECKLESS!!!
GoHillaryGo!!!
Katie
03-15-2008, 09:25 PM
I agree completely, and I couldn’t believe her comments. There is nothing wrong with what Hillary said because there is nothing wrong with stating the obvious the way she did. Pelosi and other’s reaction to Hillary’s comments is what has harmed the general election because no one would deny his experience in that area but that experience is not all the county needs right now and they have put out the talking point that Hillary said McCain would be a good commander-n-chief, or maybe I just missed that statement.
She has completely back tracked on her pledge. If she doesn’t think that in actuality she is the one who is doing harm to her party, then she is the one who is mistaken. One could also see her attempt to divide democrats as some kind of proof of why the congress is as divided as it is, if she has any interest in dividing her own party than one can imagine her approach to working with republicans and maybe that is why they can’t get anything accomplished.
I wonder if when Kerry asked McCain to be on the ticket with him if they saw this as some kind of endorsement for what was at the time a possible future republican nominee. Kerry can not endorse Obama for real because he has already endorsed the republican candidate.
I am going to send an e-letter as well.
samkm
03-15-2008, 09:30 PM
sending a well-worded, well thought out e-letter to Ms.Pelosi.
LetsHelpAmerica
03-15-2008, 09:32 PM
I just sent a note to Pelosi as well. What a dissapointment
she has been!
She's sounding more and more like and Obama supporter. :eek:
B positive
03-15-2008, 10:50 PM
Pelosi says, "The dream ticket is impossible... it will not happen."
B pos says, "D/\mn, straight- after this wknd, ain't no way Hillary could have that kind of anti-American association on her ticket."
Pelosi says, "It's impossible 'cuz HRC said he is unfit for Commander-in-Chief."
B pos says, "D/\mn, straight- after this wknd, it's pretty clear we can't have that kind of anti-American association answering the phone at 3am."
Okay, so let's see how many SuperDels have to switch to HRC now that their elected positions are in jeopardy for supporting an Anti-american person.
Qulin
03-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Peolsi has been a big disappointment to me. She has done nothing for us, that I can tell. She needs to go. I don't believe she will increase the democratic base, we will see.
RayinAR
03-16-2008, 10:26 AM
When is she up for Re election? Anyone know? Has there been democrats that have ran against her? We need a strong contender.
Patsy
03-16-2008, 10:26 AM
I wish her district would vote her out in this next election. She needs a very strong opponent.
I just sent my second email to the lovely Madame Speaker last night. I told her she was being disingenuous to stay in the closet. She should just come right out and say it. And by continuing to run her mouth to the Press she is doing nothing to unite the Party.
Then I had to throw a wee bit of venom in and assure her that I would go to California and go door to door to ensure that she lost her Congressional Seat because of her disdain for the members of this Party. It would give me great pleasure to say once again "Mister Speaker."
I'm sure she's not reading any of them, but I felt the need to tell her pipe down.
RayinAR
03-16-2008, 10:33 AM
I just sent my second email to the lovely Madame Speaker last night. I told her she was being disingenuous to stay in the closet. She should just come right out and say it. And by continuing to run her mouth to the Press she is doing nothing to unite the Party.
Then I had to throw a wee bit of venom in and assure her that I would go to California and go door to door to ensure that she lost her Congressional Seat because of her disdain for the members of this Party. It would give me great pleasure to say once again "Mister Speaker."
I'm sure she's not reading any of them, but I felt the need to tell her pipe down.
I just sent mine. I think she is a disgrace to this party and this country. She should not win re election.
hills
03-16-2008, 11:07 AM
I think it is clear that some in the Democratic Party do not want Hillary to win. This goes all the way to the top. Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Pelosi are all part of Obama's hitmen gang to take down Hillary. I think it was these people that talked Obama the opportunist into running for the nomination. I am beginning to think this is a conspiracy. Florida and Michigan weren't the only states to break the rules but they were the only ones punished.
I want to know what it is that these people fear. There has got to be more to this story that we are not seeing. Why do they fear Hillary?
Angelica91
03-16-2008, 11:27 AM
Well, I think Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi may will help Obama because they are strong with him! but anyway Hillary belive they will vote for her at Convention because:
1°-Hillary is stronger and she can win aganist McCain.
2°-Hillary won in their states (MA for Kerry and Kennedy; CA for Pelosi)
Anyway Hillary will win!:mad:stop! Obama can't win!:mad:
mcgowan.swan
03-16-2008, 11:34 AM
thank you for the link. i just sent her an e=letter. i was already upset with her because she threw the unemployment benefit ryder out to make a deal with the republicans about the stimulus package. she chose to give rebates to people making $80,000 a year, but denied extended unemp. bene. and also threw out the rebates for social security recipients. the congress put back the social security, but my unemp. was not reinstated. i got a job finally last week, but i was really upset that she did that. She met in secret with bush and the republicans and that upset me too. now she cant keep her mouth shut. she knows the superdelegates are there to pick the most electable candidate regardless of the popular vote. she is pushing because she wants to help obama, and she was afraid hillary would get it as she should. If the superdelegates only went with the popular vote, what would we need them for. we already have the popular vote from the pledged delegates. the super delegates are supposed to make an informed decision for the good of the party, basing their decision on the popular vote, the qualifications of each candidate, and the electability of each, and make the best choice for the party, not just voice a repeat of the popular vote. Since the democratic party is not a government funded party, i dont know why the superdelegates are not anonymous anyway. why put them in a position where they cannot make a fair decision without risking their health and political career. their vote should be anonymous as well. it is a private organization, not a public one. the votes should be written on ballots and publicly put in a fishbowl, and counted in front of all, but they should only be known by a number, not their name. but who am i to criticize the dnc? lol nancy pelosi knows all of the reasons for having the supers, and yet she still makes irresponsible and divisive comments. I have not liked her for quite some time and now she is aware of it. im sure she'll lose sleep over this tonight. lol not!!! go hillary
RayinAR
03-16-2008, 11:50 AM
thank you for the link. i just sent her an e=letter. i was already upset with her because she threw the unemployment benefit ryder out to make a deal with the republicans about the stimulus package. she chose to give rebates to people making $80,000 a year, but denied extended unemp. bene. and also threw out the rebates for social security recipients. the congress put back the social security, but my unemp. was not reinstated. i got a job finally last week, but i was really upset that she did that. She met in secret with bush and the republicans and that upset me too. now she cant keep her mouth shut. she knows the superdelegates are there to pick the most electable candidate regardless of the popular vote. she is pushing because she wants to help obama, and she was afraid hillary would get it as she should. If the superdelegates only went with the popular vote, what would we need them for. we already have the popular vote from the pledged delegates. the super delegates are supposed to make an informed decision for the good of the party, basing their decision on the popular vote, the qualifications of each candidate, and the electability of each, and make the best choice for the party, not just voice a repeat of the popular vote. Since the democratic party is not a government funded party, i dont know why the superdelegates are not anonymous anyway. why put them in a position where they cannot make a fair decision without risking their health and political career. their vote should be anonymous as well. it is a private organization, not a public one. the votes should be written on ballots and publicly put in a fishbowl, and counted in front of all, but they should only be known by a number, not their name. but who am i to criticize the dnc? lol nancy pelosi knows all of the reasons for having the supers, and yet she still makes irresponsible and divisive comments. I have not liked her for quite some time and now she is aware of it. im sure she'll lose sleep over this tonight. lol not!!! go hillary
She would lose sleep if it were alot of people in her own congressional district that were writing to her saying they would vote for the other person in the next election. I think she would take it very seriously.
Patsy
03-16-2008, 11:54 AM
I think it is clear that some in the Democratic Party do not want Hillary to win. This goes all the way to the top. Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Pelosi are all part of Obama's hitmen gang to take down Hillary. I think it was these people that talked Obama the opportunist into running for the nomination. I am beginning to think this is a conspiracy. Florida and Michigan weren't the only states to break the rules but they were the only ones punished.
I want to know what it is that these people fear. There has got to be more to this story that we are not seeing. Why do they fear Hillary?
The three gentlemen all have one thing in common...each has a very distinct failed Presidential Bid.
Pelosi does not want another woman to outrank her in Washington.
The men do not want Hillary because of their own flaws and a bitter envy of Bill Clinton being the only Democrat to hold two terms in 45 years.
They did put him up to it and they're going to get bitten by it in the end.
This is their only chance of pulling the puppet strings in the White House.
Hillary actually probably would have offered Kennedy a Cabinet position or advisory role on Health and Education. Two pet projects they've worked on together. He backed the wrong one, which now that I think about it is always the case. He's never backed anyone that won the Presidency.
But, jealousy has reared its ugly head again.
And poor Howard Dean. He's practically bankrupted the DNC in 2006 and I think must now know that he couldn't raise money from an open bank vault.
Personal Ambition before the Party. Plain and simple.
twain_harte
03-17-2008, 01:44 AM
I like the observation,
>>The three gentlemen all have one thing in common...each has a very distinct failed Presidential Bid.
That was a really good catch.
Pelosi is an entrenched politician. It would be hard to unseat her. I wonder
who Boxer is supporting, though. She is the third of the California trinity in
the Congress: Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer. Feinstein campagned for HRC in CA.
The longer this drags on the more skeptical I get. I just bought the book by
Bernstein about her to catch up on more details.
twain_harte
03-17-2008, 01:54 AM
Wasn't the purpose of Super Delegates to evaluate and decide who should be the nominee in the event nobody got enough delegates? Seems really odd that the uncommitted Super Delegates want to hide under a rock. They don't want some exclusive group deciding who should represent the party. Well we got stuck with Bush because an exclusive group (the Supreme Court) picked him.
This is really perplexing to me. The DNC sets this system up, then they freak when it has to be used.
I don't believe any state should allow "open" primaries. The DNC thinks they get more crossover vote in the general when open primaries are allowed, but I think it has the opposite effect. Hillary has won Blue states for a reason. When open primaries are run allowing Indies and Republicans to vote for the Democrat of their choice, then they vote against that person in the general and for their Republican. It's not rocket science.
Viktoriya
03-17-2008, 02:35 AM
If most of them love Obama, they could go to him yesterday and finish Hillary run.
So far, it is not happening. Super delegates are not going to cast their vote based on Pelosi comment.
Peppermint Patty
03-17-2008, 04:00 AM
The first was was dashed off in haste and I never copied it. This time I copied it and offer it here for your perusal. :D
Dear Madame Speaker,
I write to you like so many others to express my disappointment regarding your apparent position on the superdelegate issue.
You state that the superdelegates shouldn't overrule the will of the people, their vote for the best candidate. Right. But I thought the whole idea of superdelegates was in case of "no clear winner" in the primaries (ahem, which is where we are now) to decide the BEST possible nominee for the party who can win the White House? This primary process isn't over yet. Shouldn't you wait and reserve your remarks for the convention?
What with the lies Obama has now told over his involvement with Rezko and denying now that he ever knew his pastor of 20 YEARS held such hateful stances on America, women and white people it would appear the tide is changing. Will you continue to deny the people want HRC when she wins in PA and continues to pick up more delegates? Neither candidate will have the required majority to be the clear nominee come convention time.
(And if the DNC hadn't punished FL and MI, it looks like Clinton would be AHEAD in delegates at this point.)
At that point you and the DNC people need to take a good hard look at the statistics of where Hillary Clinton won and what states she can carry in November as opposed to the real divisive candidate Obama.
Hillary Clinton can beat John McCain in November. Barack Obama will not. You may deceive yourselves into believing this but look around at the division HIS candidacy has caused! Not Hillary's. We have been dissed and dismissed by the Obama people (who helped trash our blog forum on HRC's official site so we no longer have an open blog forum, btw!) who might then come asking for our votes after all that? I don't think so. No. I KNOW so.
I will gladly vote for McCain as a protest against an Obama run for the White House.
And finally, Madame Speaker, I pray that someone on your staff will let you read some of the missives you are getting on this subject so you can't hide your head in the sand. Why can't women in power SUPPORT other women? You have a powerful position and you should be supporting the first woman to run for president not another MAN with FAR LESS EXPERIENCE that the woman!! What is it with women not supporting women?
In conclusion, I am at least proud that HRC won California. Oh yes, she's won a lot of big urban states, hasn't she? Can you at least take that into consideration?
So, I've said my piece and I believe I have been respectful. Let's see if your office is respectful enough to show you some of these comments you are receiving.
B positive
03-17-2008, 04:26 AM
Great, Patrice in L.A.!!
I sent one to her, as well, indicating that her comments were Reckless! Superdelegates are in NO WAY bound by the pledged delegates!
Her pledge of neutrality is as bogus as Sharpton's claim that he has not endorsed either!:rolleyes:
Patsy
03-17-2008, 06:58 AM
I like the observation,
>>The three gentlemen all have one thing in common...each has a very distinct failed Presidential Bid.
That was a really good catch.
Pelosi is an entrenched politician. It would be hard to unseat her. I wonder
who Boxer is supporting, though. She is the third of the California trinity in
the Congress: Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer. Feinstein campagned for HRC in CA.
The longer this drags on the more skeptical I get. I just bought the book by
Bernstein about her to catch up on more details.
Boxer is supporting HRC despite her daughter being divorced from Hillary's brother!
Brooke
03-17-2008, 08:53 AM
I can't right now but I plan on sending Pelosi a letter. I have NEVER liked her and thought she was an awful choice for SOH, so this doesn't surprise me because like Kerry, Kennedy, Gore, etc, she's done nothing to help our party (even though I voted for two of those people I listed).
I'm disgusted by these people. I am considering changing my registration depending on how this election goes on. I've been disillusioned with the Democratic party for some time but this whole thing may be the last straw.
And from a personal standpoint, I cannot swallow what they've done to my Bill and Hillary.:mad: It's jealousy, pure and simple.
Peppermint Patty
03-17-2008, 01:53 PM
>>The three gentlemen all have one thing in common...each has a very distinct failed Presidential Bid.<<
Perhaps they are lulling B.O. into a false sense of security and really are trying to recruit him into their losers club!!! :D
Peppermint Patty
03-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Just got a notice that this message was not received by Pelosi's office. Okay. Am going to chalk it up to an internet glitch or perhaps her inbox was inundated. I just resent it. Fingers crossed!
hills
03-17-2008, 06:01 PM
Here is her phone number (202) 225-4965 got it from http://www.taylormarsh.com/hot_topics.php#1966
kyforhillary
03-17-2008, 08:51 PM
I made my phone call. It says if a constituant leave name and number, but I told her she was My speaker of the House and I thought it was a shame how she was downing Hillary and backing Obama!
RayinAR
03-17-2008, 09:07 PM
I like the observation,
>>The three gentlemen all have one thing in common...each has a very distinct failed Presidential Bid.
That was a really good catch.
Pelosi is an entrenched politician. It would be hard to unseat her. I wonder
who Boxer is supporting, though. She is the third of the California trinity in
the Congress: Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer. Feinstein campagned for HRC in CA.
The longer this drags on the more skeptical I get. I just bought the book by
Bernstein about her to catch up on more details.
I think Senator Boxer already endorsed Hillary along time ago. Didn't she? Or maybe that was Feinstein.
Mom4Hillary
03-17-2008, 10:38 PM
Thanks for sharing the Pelosi contact info. I just sent her the following message:
"Pelosi '07 Pride:
Your comments to the news media about the way YOU prefer for superdelegates to vote just shows how irresponsible you are as a leader in the democratic party. Thanks for continuing to shoot down my prefered candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton. The caucus system does not fairly represent democrats as older voters and voters with small children find it difficult to participate in that medium. Now, it looks like Florida's voters have been disenfranchised and you have the gall to say that superdelegates can't use their judgement as to which candidate has the best chance of winning in the general election? I think I'm going to throw away the "Pelosi 'o7" tee-shirt I wore with pride up until last weeK."
ALL4HILLARY
03-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Where did you send it
B positive
03-17-2008, 10:46 PM
This is one of my favorite DEAR PELOSI letters:
Les33 wrote to her:
The Superdelegates are charged with a clear duty and don't require further directive. Your decision to enter into the fray serves no purpose, other than as an attempt to manipulate the nomination process to benefit one candidate over another. It is neither neutral nor democratic. As a lifelong Democrat, I wish to have it on record that you do not "speak" for me.
You Go, Les33!!!! :p
Mom4Hillary
03-17-2008, 10:53 PM
Send to http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
Les33
03-17-2008, 11:10 PM
Just got a notice that this message was not received by Pelosi's office. Okay. Am going to chalk it up to an internet glitch or perhaps her inbox was inundated. I just resent it. Fingers crossed!
Mine came back too.
Did yours go through the 2nd time?
Peppermint Patty
03-18-2008, 03:24 AM
Mine came back too.
Did yours go through the 2nd time?
So far the 2nd attempt hasn't bounced back.
Patsy
03-18-2008, 03:36 AM
I think Senator Boxer already endorsed Hillary along time ago. Didn't she? Or maybe that was Feinstein.
Both endorsed HRC.
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