Is there a Doctor in the house?

[movingtous]

I need someone who is gifted in psychology to help me figure out why I feel the way I do. I feel very confused right now.
From the start of the primary election, I have always felt a little removed from everything. I was just content to wait until it was my turn to vote for a candidate. I decided to help out Hillary after I could no longer sit back and ignore the incessant attacks on her. The unfair and biased media spurred me to act. I started donating money to Hillary. I ordered campaign gear, went to two campaign rallies, and also blog for her. I started becoming such an addictive supporter that my husband got mad and told me that I had to promise that I would stop donating money! I promised, then I had to find other ways to contribute. I still blog, make phone calls, and try to inform people about Hillary. I have Hillary signs hung up in my day care.
I would always cringe every time Obama would make a speech. I do not trust him. I really think that he has not paid his dues, yet, and that he needs time. The time is not ripe for him to become our next president. To me, he has the audacity of ambition.
And, here's why I am confused. I have never thought that I would feel sad about the truth coming out and that people would see that Obama is not all he's cracked up to be. I felt that it was a question of time, and that when he falls, it will be big. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. This whole business with his pastor will end up costing him the nomination. I feel it in my bones, and these bones are not as old as the media tends to portray 40-something voters! Anyhow, as I am watching the networks slowly go after Obama, I have to admit that I feel somewhat sad. I don't understand this feeling. I watch Obama try to answer questions from one journalist on Fox, and I felt awful for Obama. I got really angry at the journalist for treating Obama with such disrepect! Is there a reason for my feeling this way? The disrespect was what spurred me to take action for Hillary. I am starting to feel sorry for Obama, yet this was exactly what I have been waiting for, all along. I knew and sensed that he would be brought down, and I think this is it. I just don't see how he can survive all the controversial remarks from someone so close to him. Having said all this, is there someone out there who can put my feelings in perspective? I feel very confused. Why am I so sad that this is happening to one of our rivals?

[CGP]

Well, I think it says something about your good nature, more than it says anything about Obama. Sure, you find Obama disturbing on many levels, but unlike some anti-Hillary supporters, you would not find pleasure or relief in watching him crucified. That's not about Obama, that's about you and your kind nature. I don't think you need to feel concerned about your reaction - I too felt somewhat sorry for Obama watching him try and defend the indefensible. Again though, this said more about me than about Obama. I have a kind heart and extreme ill-will does not sit well with me at all - nor should it sit well with anyone. Negativity is toxic, regardless of the reasons for its existence. In reality, however, Obama is responsible for his own decisions and actions and it is no-one's responsibility or role to shield him from having to face the consequences of his actions. The laws of the universe always prevail in the end, even without our human intervention! Unfortunately for Obama, some of his behaviors and actions have been so appalling, that the eventual consequences of these will be severe - he only has himself to blame for this and it is no-one's responsibility to try and recuse him from these consequences.

[YesSheCan]

My question to you is: what TV stations are you watching for the Obama interviews? I haven't seen any interviews with him that were not *respectful* The questions, for a change, were hard. But, frankly, I was shocked that they were so respectful, because if it had been Hillary at the other end, or one of Hillary's workers, she would have been grilled with such aggressiveness and rudeness and obvious hatred by the journalist. If you look at msnbc you can see that they are doing everything they can to rescue their man and are even trashing Hillary harder.

[joeysky18]

Why am I so sad that this is happening to one of our rivals?

You feel sad because you are a good human being. you don't gloat over someone mishap.

For me, I feel sad for his supporters. I think he really let them down. I read in a blog after the primary in TX and OH. A lot of college students were really disappointed. They donated him the money that they didn't have. Their GPA will be bad because they been volunteered for him and didn't study enough. It pained me to hear that those kids squeezed their last dollars to support this man.

Obama owes a big apology to his supporters. He tricked them, fooled them, and lied to them.

[swannyj]

Murray, I would bet this has been a day of inward reflection for all of us. But, I think you will soon be back to your old self because Obama is going to survive this. I just turned off our local news as they replayed Obama's speech in Indiana with him going on about how this primary has caused such racial division. I couldn't stand to watch anymore of it.

[memphis]

Just remember that if Hillary was in this same position, Obama would not hesitate to demand that Hillary drop out of the race.
That puts everything into perspective.

[movingtous]

I have to admit that I sort of banned CNN and MSNBC lately, so I've been watching Fox because they trash both candidates alike, so to me that's an element of fairness:rolleyes:
I watched one journalist in particular, after the Hannity show, ask Obama a series of questions which I found entirely disrespectful. And Obama thanked him at the end of the interview! I don't know, it was the first time I felt that Obama was going to lose, and that thought made me a little sad. I want Hillary to win, but I really get sad when I see someone's downfall. I also felt sad watching the scandal with spitzer, or whatever his name is. Just weird feelings. Spitzer has a wife and kids, they're already suffering. He resigned, end of story, move on. Life is about moving on. We shouldn't continue to pound people on the head, but I guess that's where I keep feeling confused. I should be happy, right?

[CGP]

I don't know, it was the first time I felt that Obama was going to lose, and that thought made me a little sad. I want Hillary to win, but I really get sad when I see someone's downfall. We shouldn't continue to pound people on the head, but I guess that's where I keep feeling confused. I should be happy, right?

This is the key. I have not "felt sorry" for Obama at any point until I thought that he was on the verge of losing - like yesterday. So my reaction, like your's, is about not getting "satisfaction" in seeing someone else crumble - even if that's what they deserve. This is about your nature, my nature. This is not about Obama. So, with that in mind, it's natural that you would not feel "happy" at Obama's demise. This shows you are not a vindictive or vengeful person. This is a good thing!

And yes, it is true, if this passes over and Obama is back gloating and spreading untruths, my current "empathy" will certainly subside because he will no longer be in a position where he would elicit such a reaction in me. My empathy only kicks in when I see someone at risk of tremendous suffering. When that person is not suffering, I don't have empathy. When Obama is "winning", he is not suffering, and I won't be feeling empathy for him!

HILLARY 4 PRESIDENT! :)

[joeysky18]

You should be happy that the truth is coming out. This blanket brainwash of Obama supporters need to stop.

If you are Christian - "the truth will set you free"

If you are Buddhist - "you pay for your own karma"

[handymanhdw]

No need to feel guilty. I'm a 47 year old WHITE MALE

[CGP]

If you are Christian - "the truth will set you free"

If you are Buddhist - "you pay for your own karma"

Agree with both.

[SD]

i don't have cable so i don't see the news.

i see his supporters on the internet, and i cannot see anywhere that any of this has hurt him, and in fact, he seems to be gaining even more support. i cannot watch this farce any longer.

he will get the nomination. he just keeps gaining. i am baffled by it, and disheartened.

monday i am going to change from democratic party to republican. i have had enough.

[AdrienneJ]

I can share with you my thoughts on the subject... I am turning cartwheels (well, internal cartwheels as there's the furniture to consider, etc...) over Obama's possible end-of-nomination-run. But at the same time I do have those feelings of empathy for someone having to deal with the media circus... It is a tricky line to walk.

I want his candidacy stopped and as soon as possible. I want this to happen because I think he would be terrible for our country and the rest of the world.

However, people who have goodness inside them, happen to have compassion. (Which is actually one of the most compelling things about Hillary.) So we feel sorry when someone is going through a hard time.
And we have all learned during this campaign (while many of us knew it before) that the media has been a spotty and seedy lot, not even adherring to the rather low standard of current journalistic ethics. It is hard to admire the glee with which they go after people. Usually, almost exclusively the one they have gone after has been our girl, Hillary. Seeing them turn their tactics to someone else produces in us mixed feelings --- a feeling of 'well, it's about time' to see the guy who's been given a free pass finally being scrutinized, but also a sense of damn- that's a little underhanded how the media is going about that.

I think something to remember is the fact that these allegations and stories coming out now about Obama dealing with this preacher appear to be true. They are not media manufactured like much of the stuff that Hillary has had to contend with. Obama was a member of this guy's church; this guy has spouted pure hate; Obama has given really poor responses on the manner of his realtionship with this guy; Obama seems to have set himself up to be caught in several lies: if he knew the guy preached offensive comments and it seems really hard to believe he wouldn't know that--actually pretty impossible to believe.

I don't think it's strange to find yourself with mixed feelings right now. The media could have gone about this is a much more responsible way. They could have actually flushed out the story and gotten the facts before they represented it in these little sound bites they like to use. It would have been nice if they had reported this story in a responsible manner when they first had it. But they like to be how they like to be.

I hope this helps some.

[B positive]

My question to you is: what TV stations are you watching for the Obama interviews? I haven't seen any interviews with him that were not *respectful* The questions, for a change, were hard. But, frankly, I was shocked that they were so respectful ...

I must agree... I heard Major Garret tell him it is always an honor to speak with him and wished him safe travels at the end. AC (CNN) threw him a chuckle rope at the end about singing the national anthem for the us so that the interview would end on a light note. msNBC (?can't remember was it Olbermann?) was also very pleasant.

I would have said, "specifically Senator, which comments do you denounce?" One of the reporters asked this and FLUFF sidestepped it. I would have pushed him to specifically site the comments he denounces... that should leave no question as to what he disagrees with.

Additionally, FLUFF put Wright on his campaign advisory staff... which is the opposite of distancing oneself from someone.

Indeed this day has been upsetting to me... as I have gone from seeing him as a FLUFF that may be required for VP in order to solidify all party votes to seeing him as just plain dangerous. I'm thinking he should not even be in the US Senate at this point! Please keep him as far away from HRC as possible!

[CGP]

he will get the nomination. he just keeps gaining. i am baffled by it, and disheartened.

monday i am going to change from democratic party to republican. i have had enough.

You should tell the DNC about your reaction & decision. And help them to realize that Obama's divisive politics is leading to major, major problems, including democrat defections to the republican party! I'm sure they would like to know about that.

[tommy]

I remember how many times Hillary was kicked by both the media and the opposing supporters when she was down, they tried to step on her as much as possible...none of them has ever felt bad for her except her supporters.

I did feel a bit bad for Obama, but then after reading his supporter blindly comments, it even out the feelings.

Most of us Hillary supporters have such warm hearts, I'm so happy with you guys.

[handymanhdw]

superdelagates need to do their job, grow some balls and stand up for the party, I'm not going to pay 4.00 bucks per gallon for gas to help DICK AND BUSH OUT, This is why the super dupers were put in place. We can't trust the Jeb Bush Republican party in Florida to count votes, as they are kind to George and can't count to four, and this will never happen again, if I have to personally take it to the supreme court. If the republicans of Florida can pass rules for the Democratic party, then something is wrong with the whole picture, we're in the wrong country! No wonder People are voting for Osama/OBAMA, THEY ACTUALLY THINK HE CAN CHANGE IT!!!!!!!

[CGP]

I can share with you my thoughts on the subject... I am turning cartwheels (well, internal cartwheels as there's the furniture to consider, etc...) over Obama's possible end-of-nomination-run. But at the same time I do have those feelings of empathy for someone having to deal with the media circus... It is a tricky line to walk. I want his candidacy stopped and as soon as possible. I want this to happen because I think he would be terrible for our country and the rest of the world. However, people who have goodness inside them, happen to have compassion. (Which is actually one of the most compelling things about Hillary.) So we feel sorry when someone is going through a hard time.

Exactly.

[CGP]

Well, regardless of anyone's views, this was clearly a good topic to start based on the rapidity of the response submissions! :)

[ouihillary]

dear Movingtous, I saw the interview you were refering too, on Fox with Major Garret, he sounded like a cop, I also felt bad or something I cannot describe for Obama because I have never seen him in such a situation (whereas Hillary has constantly been under attack), I believe it was the first time he was asked such inquisitive questions. But I am happy that finally reporters strt asking questions, even if its coming from FOX. lol

[Lodi]

I'm still joyful that the truth is being revealed. I feel neither empathy nor hatred for Obama. I do sympathize with his supporters who are now beginning to open their eyes. (But I'm bewildered by the ones that are in denial.)

There is a general element of sadness in watching people with so much potential bring themselves down through their own bad judgment and misdirection. Everybody loses out.

But no, I'm feeling less hysterical; way more balanced overall by the dawning of the truth before it's too late.

Maybe try not to overanalyze or judge yourself and just go with your feelings. You're entitled to them! :) We all process stuff differently.

P.S. None of the interviews I saw with Obama were anything but gentle.

[Lodi]

I can share with you my thoughts on the subject... I am turning cartwheels (well, internal cartwheels as there's the furniture to consider, etc...) over Obama's possible end-of-nomination-run. But at the same time I do have those feelings of empathy for someone having to deal with the media circus... It is a tricky line to walk.

I want his candidacy stopped and as soon as possible. I want this to happen because I think he would be terrible for our country and the rest of the world.

However, people who have goodness inside them, happen to have compassion. (Which is actually one of the most compelling things about Hillary.) So we feel sorry when someone is going through a hard time.
And we have all learned during this campaign (while many of us knew it before) that the media has been a spotty and seedy lot, not even adherring to the rather low standard of current journalistic ethics. It is hard to admire the glee with which they go after people. Usually, almost exclusively the one they have gone after has been our girl, Hillary. Seeing them turn their tactics to someone else produces in us mixed feelings --- a feeling of 'well, it's about time' to see the guy who's been given a free pass finally being scrutinized, but also a sense of damn- that's a little underhanded how the media is going about that.

I think something to remember is the fact that these allegations and stories coming out now about Obama dealing with this preacher appear to be true. They are not media manufactured like much of the stuff that Hillary has had to contend with. Obama was a member of this guy's church; this guy has spouted pure hate; Obama has given really poor responses on the manner of his realtionship with this guy; Obama seems to have set himself up to be caught in several lies: if he knew the guy preached offensive comments and it seems really hard to believe he wouldn't know that--actually pretty impossible to believe.

I don't think it's strange to find yourself with mixed feelings right now. The media could have gone about this is a much more responsible way. They could have actually flushed out the story and gotten the facts before they represented it in these little sound bites they like to use. It would have been nice if they had reported this story in a responsible manner when they first had it. But they like to be how they like to be.

I hope this helps some.

;)

[SoCal4Hillary]

As others have said, it's more a reflection of your make-up than it is anything to do with Obama himself. You're not happy to see another human being treated disrespectfully, or to [potentially] have his campaign go down the tubes. I think we're all juggling some mixed feelings right now...I know I am.

But you know what? I highly doubt that our counterparts in the Obama world would have the same problem! Judging by their nastiness and their blind devotion to their leader, I suspect that they would be jumping for joy if it were Hillary having the problems Obama is right now.

[movingtous]

Thanks,
you guys are great. I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for Obama. Even my husband, who thinks Obama's a cool guy, sees this as a huge problem for Obama. I forced my husband to support Hillary, by talking his ears off. It's true, it is so unusual to see Obama treated any other way than with kid's gloves. I got so used to Hillary getting all the attacks. But, that's what finally got me off my bottom and start working for her, I couldn't stand seeing her take the punches all the time.
I find it far fetched that Obama says he was unaware of his pastor's feelings and controversial views. OK, give me a break:rolleyes:
He's known the guy for over 20 years and it's finally dawned on him? If he's being truthful, which I seriously doubt, than he shows a complete disconnect from reality and doesn't deserve to hold the highest position in the country!

[CGP]

But you know what? I highly doubt that our counterparts in the Obama world would have the same problem! Judging by their nastiness and their blind devotion to their leader, I suspect that they would be jumping for joy if it were Hillary having the problems Obama is right now.

Exactly, and win or lose, I know which group I would rather be associated with!

[handymanhdw]

Agree with both.

jOEYSKI 18: Please call all the people you can so we can be insured she wins the popular vote. We had a primary in Texas, and then for the first time in my life I was entitled to participate in a caucus), and Hell yeah, i voted for Hillary, twice! It was cold out there, they kept us out for an extra hour after polls closed, and the longer we waited, the more blacks showed up to cast their caucus votes! bY 8:30, WE HAD AN EXTRA 25 VOTERS that were'nt there at 7:15 like they should have been! If this is what has been going on in In all these Caucus states, there's no WONDER HILLARY'S BEHIND! This man will NOT WIN AN ELECTION! The rest of the states behind Texas will be just as confused if they have this caucus crap built in. My dad was 75 years old and I've never heard of it before, so after hearing it on CNN i went to the internet, "Texas Delegate selection plan" We didn't know it, but we actually had a caucus the night after we we went and voted. What an F'd up system we have. Whatever state you're in from now till the end, I'd suggest you do some strong searching and find out if your state is not in this same gimmic as texas was. I'm 48 years old, have voted in a few elections, and have never heard crap like that before. By the way, Hillary got 6 extra delegate votes, and Omama got 3. Of course in the city of Houston Texas, Crap HAPPENS! And many, many, many, young unknowing unsuspecting, people that don't know what's going to happen, or how bad shit will get, are still voting for this WHITE MAN OBAMA.... my god help us....

[Patsy]

I have to admit that I sort of banned CNN and MSNBC lately, so I've been watching Fox because they trash both candidates alike, so to me that's an element of fairness:rolleyes:
I watched one journalist in particular, after the Hannity show, ask Obama a series of questions which I found entirely disrespectful. And Obama thanked him at the end of the interview! I don't know, it was the first time I felt that Obama was going to lose, and that thought made me a little sad. I want Hillary to win, but I really get sad when I see someone's downfall. I also felt sad watching the scandal with spitzer, or whatever his name is. Just weird feelings. Spitzer has a wife and kids, they're already suffering. He resigned, end of story, move on. Life is about moving on. We shouldn't continue to pound people on the head, but I guess that's where I keep feeling confused. I should be happy, right?

I think you are undergoing what a lot of us are. We want Hillary to win desperately and we have invested our time, our money and more importantly, our full emotions. Yes, we've all secretly wanted something to come out about Obama, but that was never wishing him or his family any hardships, but because we knew he has not been truthful with us.

There is an old, or not so old, saying that misery loves company. But, we are not miserable and I think I speak for a great many of us when I say that we and you, love our Country and do not wish any more harm to fall to it. That is why this has been such a great Forum to come together because we do all have the same ultimate goal.

It has been emotionally draining for us all to watch the hatred spew from every avenue conceivable. That never makes us feel good and to watch so many people, in the news especially, refuse to see things as they are, speaks more about them than us. But, knowing this does not make us feel any better.

We have watched respected members of our Party, whom we thought had our best interests at heart, stand by and allow such a campaign of lies and hatred go forward. Some have been silent and some have been very vocal, but they have all been hurtful to us. Perhaps the silence is the most telling part of all. We feel abandoned by our Party and its ideals.

I watched the Fox interview last night with Major Garrett and I have to say, that I did not find his line of questioning disrespectful, rather it was very direct and pointed. Garrett sounded like a Lawyer asking questions. And, there was a purpose to asking the questions that way. Obama stated unequivocally that he had never heard any of those sermons. Thus, his political career is on the line if evidence to the contrary should be discovered.

I think none of us would ever wish anything permanently damaging and so horrible to happen to a family. For all his faults, Obama has two small children and they should never be subjected to anything like that. I think it would be strange if you did not have those feelings. We all remember watching in 1997 as Chelsea stood by her parents having all their dirty laundry aired to the World. We also understood that she was an innocent bystander in the choices her Father made. Senator Obama has made choices in his life and there will always be consequences to those choices. That is his own undoing. We have all been there at one time or another in our own lives.

We keep our positive message going and let the Obamas deal with whatever may come from their life choices. We shall never pass judgment, nor shall we ever feel gleeful when something happens to them. We shall always be mindful of his two children and all the people who gave so much to him and believed so ardently in him. That is what makes us human.

Take a break from it all if you can. Come back to us when you have had some time to invest in the things you know make you smile and are a joy to do. This is very much a roller coaster and sometimes in life we need to step off of it for a minute to regroup. But there is another option for you too. You are in very loving and good company here. We spend the bulk of our time talking about issues involved with the election, but we also welcome discussions about anything. You are in a very embracing environment and we can always take a break from the grind and talk about anything you like.

We are all on the same page and all are seeking the same goal. You are an integral part of this team and you are most decidedly not alone in your feelings.

Kitty

[CGP]

Thanks,
you guys are great. I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for Obama. Even my husband, who thinks Obama's a cool guy, sees this as a huge problem for Obama. I forced my husband to support Hillary, by talking his ears off. It's true, it is so unusual to see Obama treated any other way than with kid's gloves. I got so used to Hillary getting all the attacks. But, that's what finally got me off my bottom and start working for her, I couldn't stand seeing her take the punches all the time.
I find it far fetched that Obama says he was unaware of his pastor's feelings and controversial views. OK, give me a break:rolleyes:
He's known the guy for over 20 years and it's finally dawned on him? If he's being truthful, which I seriously doubt, than he shows a complete disconnect from reality and doesn't deserve to hold the highest position in the country!

Obama alone must face the consequences of his actions and choices. It's not my fault nor is it your's that he made such disastrous choices. He alone must feel the pain of his actions. Feeling empathy for a candidate "on the way out" does not mean that we have to condone nor accept his poor choices and unethical actions. It does mean, though, that we can retain our dignity and not resort to vengeful pleasure in watching someone crash.

[handymanhdw]

dear Movingtous, I saw the interview you were refering too, on Fox with Major Garret, he sounded like a cop, I also felt bad or something I cannot describe for Obama because I have never seen him in such a situation (whereas Hillary has constantly been under attack), I believe it was the first time he was asked such inquisitive questions. But I am happy that finally reporters strt asking questions, even if its coming from FOX. lol

You don't need to feel bad about anything. Screw Fox, they are biased, non-equal reporting, and however you look at it. I refuse to watch them anymore. CNN, MSNBC, and the likes, have cost Hilary the election. It's over, unless the scruples of the PARTY ARE GOING TO STAND UP TO THE MINORITIRES! She was 30 points ahead at the end of 2007, and Lou Dobbs, Chris Mathews, Keith Olberman, and all the associates of the NBC network need to be dis-rewarded, with the exception of SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE!
The media claimed Bill Clinton turned this crap into the race issue, NO, the media turned this BMF into an issue!!! i don't know how they can live with themselves.... Of course, they make 3 to 5 million per year, I'm well below that...........

[movingtous]

Take a break from it all if you can. Come back to us when you have had some time to invest in the things you know make you smile and are a joy to do. This is very much a roller coaster and sometimes in life we need to step off of it for a minute to regroup. But there is another option for you too. You are in very loving and good company here. We spend the bulk of our time talking about issues involved with the election, but we also welcome discussions about anything. You are in a very embracing environment and we can always take a break from the grind and talk about anything you like.

We are all on the same page and all are seeking the same goal. You are an integral part of this team and you are most decidedly not alone in your feelings.

Kitty

Thanks, Kitty

I am actually on vacation, skiing with my family. I couldn't be happier. Hillary has a lot of mature supporters, which helps a lot. It's one of the reasons I come to this forum, I think too much. Ranting helps, so I will stick around as long as I can, even on vacation:)

[handymanhdw]

What is it with young women and this person? Is that a racist's question? You watch them all on TV and they all have the little Cocaine dust or whatever it is in their eyes....

MyGod, can't believe this is happening.... You thought BUSH was BAD, Just f'ing wait!

[Patsy]

Thanks, Kitty

I am actually on vacation, skiing with my family. I couldn't be happier. Hillary has a lot of mature supporters, which helps a lot. It's one of the reasons I come to this forum, I think too much. Ranting helps, so I will stick around as long as I can, even on vacation:)

I'm jealous that you're skiing!!!!! But I m so glad that you're having a break. And, still able to join us.

Don't do anything I wouldn't do. (That pretty much leaves the door wide open;))

[JamieKuuipo]

i don't have cable so i don't see the news.

i see his supporters on the internet, and i cannot see anywhere that any of this has hurt him, and in fact, he seems to be gaining even more support. i cannot watch this farce any longer.

he will get the nomination. he just keeps gaining. i am baffled by it, and disheartened.

monday i am going to change from democratic party to republican. i have had enough.

SUSANNAH,

He dose not have the nomination! Don't give up on HILLLARY, GIVE HER A CHANCE TO WOOP HIM FAIR AND SQUARE.

SHE HAS THE STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION TO DO IT, YOU JUST
GOT TO STAND IN THERE WITH HER, AND YOU HAVE ALL OF US.

DON;T GIVE IN AND NEVER QUITE NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS MAY LOOK
THERE IS ALWAYS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
IF POLITICS WERE EASY, IT WOULD NT BE WORTH DOING.

IT MAY LOOK LIKE HE WILL BLOW THIS OVER, THE MAN IS HIDING SOMTHING
IN HIS CLOSET AND THEY HAVE JUST BEGUN TO CLEAN IT OUT.

THEY WON'T LET THIS GO IT IS A CREDABILITY ISSUE, THEY MUST INVESTIGATE.

DON'T GO!!!

[Sincere]

As is easily seen on the video I posted on the topic "Can she still win?".......Obama is clearly seen to have gleaned ideas from others and plagiarized them. He has plagiarized them to make himself a butterfly from a worm in a cacoon. A young man who I admit has advanced to a high aspiration in this country very rapidly.
Most of us choose not to "kick someone when they are down" but he is not down yet.
What I fear greatly is for him to attain the presidency of all our citizens when we do not know enough about him. Rezco, and the Wright issues and WHO is really backing this young inexperienced man who wants to be our president?
Remember he has used the race issue to trash the Clintons and there is no mercy or let up in their pounding and unkindness. They will gladly kick Hillary when she is down.
We need the media to explore this thoroughly.

[Patsy]

As is easily seen on the video I posted on the topic "Can she still win?".......Obama is clearly seen to have gleaned ideas from others and plagiarized them. He has plagiarized them to make himself a butterfly from a worm in a cacoon. A young man who I admit has advanced to a high aspiration in this country very rapidly.
Most of us choose not to "kick someone when they are down" but he is not down yet.
What I fear greatly is for him to attain the presidency of all our citizens when we do not know enough about him. Rezco, and the Wright issues and WHO is really backing this young inexperienced man who wants to be our president?
Remember he has used the race issue to trash the Clintons and there is no mercy or let up in their pounding and unkindness. They will gladly kick Hillary when she is down.
We need the media to explore this thoroughly.

I agree he's not down yet. The MSM won't allow it. He's a puppet for Kennedy, Kerry and Dean because they could never win the Presidency themselves and resent Bill Clinton for being the only two term Democrat in 45 years. And poor old Nancy Pelosi with her rather large mouth can not abide the idea that there might be another woman in Washington who outranks her.

But, if for some unspeakable reason he should secure the nomination. He will NEVER win the General. All those crossovers, whom he sincerely believes are voting for HIM and not against HILLARY, and all those indies are going flying right back to the Repubs because the one thing you can be assured of is that they take National Pride very seriously and no matter what Obama says, or his wife for that matter, the words of his Pastor will continue to resonate in their ears. He truly IS unelectable.

[RachachaSharon]

This caught my eye as I shut down last night (rather this a.m.). In fact, without even looking at any of the blogs, I sort of worked it out in my sleep.

Part of my problem is that I'm reading the actual quotes from Hillary's comments, like on MLK and Johnson, and there's no way it could be construed as racial. In addition, the comment included John Kennedy as having wanted to sign the Civil Rights law. The entire quote never made it to MSM. If you want to see them, you actually have to hunt for them.

With the Iraq vote, I read the entire speech made by Hillary on the Senate floor. She was very succinct in her expectations that Bush pursue diplomatic resolution and rely on the UN to complete its work, which, of course, he didn't do because he was planning to attack Iraq from the beginning. There was nothing in the message that gave carte blanche to Bush and I never saw any reason for her to apologize. Anyone with the same information would have made the same decision. Of course, correcting misrepresentations has not occurred and BO has been using this vote to his advantage.

The dilemma is that the lies are out there and the truth isn't. We know that the public personna of the BO campaign is very different from the behind the scenes reality. There doesn't seem to be any way to break through to MSM except when it comes to scandals that are too juicy to ignore. Of course, MSNBC/NBC and CNN are hopeless and we can't expect too much from them. We have to resort to blogging and the likes of Fox, and the conservative talking heads.

I have never liked BO and I don't want him to be president. I don't think he would be good for the country. I truly believe that what you see isn't going to be what you get. That said, I don't want to destroy him either. I just want him to go away.

With respect to BO's followers. They are not, for the most part, loyal democrats. They are people who are missing something in their lives and have latched on to words which they are mistaking for a promise to improve things. BO's entire history belies the words.

I read the other day at Hillaryis44.com, where someone referred to him as a copycat. He's been copying Hillary since he arrived in the Senate. I can't blame him for wanting to improve his resume with the far more impressive resume of HRC, but, overall, he's not honest. His entire political life his predicated on "you have to do whatever it takes to win" even if it means hurting people who have helped you along the way. His way is to allow operatives to do the dirty work.

Tried and true Democrats are good people who feel badly (and scared) over the direction that this campaign is taking. I cannot remember ever feeling so emotional over the primaries as I am now. I cannot remember ever being as frightened as I am today over what could happen if BO becomes president.
Hillary shines; BO is a dark soul.

Superdelegates, such as Kerry and Kennedy, fired the opening salvo when they came out for BO. I think they had a responsibility to remain silent until the primaries were completed. The process is complicated enough without all of that posturing and preening.