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emmyCA
03-16-2008, 10:18 PM
I cam accross Obama website and see this thread that they are going to attack Hillary and Bill on this video below. Any one has any idea on this? This video created on Feb 27, 2007. I don't know if it is the truth, we need to send this to Hillary camp so they can be prepared because they sent this to every major media on the country. Here is the whole statement I got from Obama blog, let's discuss:

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This Link is Very Important
By Nickie - Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:41 pm EDT
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This is not a fear tactic by me. This is an investigative report into Bill Clinton while he was Governor in Arkansas. There is a media blackout about this and it is essential that you arm yourselves with the truth. I just emailed every major newspaper in the country this. Please take a look.

Why haven't I seen this report on the news? This is bigger than WATERGATE!!! Why has there been a media black out? Where is the justice in this? I would appreciate the truth coming out about this story.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6470450895164255089

Optixmom
03-16-2008, 10:28 PM
they have this listing on Wikipedia that discusses this film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Chronicles

They claim that Snopes has debunked this as an Urban Legend.

xyndau
03-16-2008, 10:29 PM
lol - coke dealers/smugglers? Well, I cannot see anyone in the MSM running with that.

Carla
03-16-2008, 10:32 PM
Hi Emmy,

First, please don't be upset or worried about this video. Obamabots are just running scared. But you should definitely send it to the campaign at tips@hillaryclinton.com, or print out a copy of the post and fax it to Hill's camp. I've done that with e-mails I get from Obama's camp. I think Hillary's camp should keep in mind that they are under attack so they don't give up the fight themselves. Maybe you could start documenting Obama's blog smears, and then we can decide what the best course of action would be from there. His camp is always saying how mean we are and everyone believes them. Well, so are they. Again, don't worry, I watched it for about 2 minutes and didn't know if I should laugh or just take that nap I was planning on taking before I saw your post. You can tell that it is a bunch of people just saying lies. Plus, it is really old, is it from before Clinton got impeached? If so, it is a joke, because the powers that be would have would have used it already. We have to keep going!

G4Hillary
03-16-2008, 10:35 PM
This is all old right wing nonsense.

This has been discussed hundreds of times already.

Obama people are just desperate.

Amy Dugan
03-16-2008, 10:36 PM
I remember this. It was something I THINK Jerry Falwell had something to do with. OLD NEWS

jbohio
03-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Yep....that is the same old crap that was tried against the Clintons during , may I say, the marvelous years of the Clinton administration.

tcbwriter
03-16-2008, 10:40 PM
This was done by the same people who have tried for more than 20 years to bring Bill Clinton (and Hillary) down. It has all been debunked.

Does ANYBODY honestly believe that with the multitude of investigations into every aspect of the Clinton's lives from the moment they met, after Ken Starr spent over $40 MILLION in our taxdollars investigating them that anything like this would be ignored by the media? The media whose members hate the Clintons with every fiber of their beings? Hardly. :confused:

For the record (In case anybody really needs reminding):

For his entire presidency, Clinton, his wife, and members of his administration were hounded by accusations of wrongdoing. When Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives and the Senate after the 1994 elections, congressional committees conducted investigations and lengthy hearings on accusations of misconduct. Also, an unprecedented seven independent counsels (special prosecutors) were appointed to investigate allegations of misconduct.
The most troublesome and damaging investigation involved a real estate deal that Clinton and his wife undertook in 1978, while he was attorney general of Arkansas. The investigation became known as “Whitewater,” after the name of the land development company, Whitewater Development Corp., which the Clintons formed with James D. and Susan McDougal of Little Rock.

The probe was expanded to look into the 1993 suicide of Vincent Foster Jr.—a Little Rock lawyer who became deputy White House counsel—as well as the firing of the White House travel staff and other activities at the White House.

Yielding to Republican criticism, Clinton asked Attorney General Janet Reno in 1994 to appoint an independent counsel on Whitewater. Her appointee, a Republican lawyer named Robert B. Fiske, was later removed by a panel of judges in Washington and replaced with Kenneth W. Starr, who had been solicitor general under President George H. W. Bush.

Starr continued the investigation through the rest of the Clinton presidency. While several Arkansans were indicted in various property dealings in Arkansas, including Governor Jim Guy Tucker, neither the Clintons nor others in his administration were ever implicated in any wrongdoing in the Whitewater-related activities. The investigations concluded that Foster had committed suicide and that the firing of travel staff involved no wrongdoing.

neutralplayer
03-16-2008, 10:44 PM
This was just some old conspiracy crap that was rebuffed over a decade ago.

Let the Obama campaign try to bring this up. The media and core Democrats will have a field day.

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 10:44 PM
If you study the Counter Intelligence and Intelligence Operations and Operatives, you would see that they know how to set each other up. The games people play are horrendous and hillarious.

Look at the Monika Lewinski ordeal. Although there may be an issue with that whole incident, why did the Republicans attack President Bill Clinton at the time when Al Queda was becoming a Real U.S. National Security Threat?

Patsy
03-16-2008, 10:47 PM
they have this listing on Wikipedia that discusses this film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Chronicles

They claim that Snopes has debunked this as an Urban Legend.

Kenn Starr spent $70mil investigating the financial dealings of the Clintons and found NOTHING.

His Step Mother can attest to the balanced budget? His brother was the one in jail for cocaine, not Bill. Laughable!!!!

This is absolutely preposterous and the media, as in love with Obama as they are, will never touch this.

It has been disproven.

I suppose this is part of the"full assault" the Chicago Tribune reported on today regarding O's Campaign strategy.

Nothing new. Not to worry.

This is how DESPERATE the Obamanots are.

Patsy
03-16-2008, 10:48 PM
If you study the Counter Intelligence and Intelligence Operations and Operatives, you would see that they know how to set each other up. The games people play are horrendous and hillarious.

Look at the Monika Lewinski ordeal. Although there may be an issue with that whole incident, why did the Republicans attack President Bill Clinton at the time when Al Queda was becoming a Real U.S. National Security Threat?

Amen to that!

tcbwriter
03-16-2008, 10:48 PM
By the way, what does this say about Obamites that they are so eager to believe something like this about a fellow Democrat?

I mean wouldn't you agree that accusing somebody of this far-fetched criminal activity is a far cry from questioning a candidates judgement in choosing a radical pastor who fires 'em up to hate people of another race?

Were we all jumping on the bandwagon and demanding why the media wasn't investigating Obama's ties to radical Muslim terrorists?

Give me a break!

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 10:54 PM
April 1996: US Aware of Al-Qaeda Cell in Kenya, Begins Monitoring It It will later be revealed in a US trial that, by this time, US intelligence agents are aware that an al-Qaeda cell exists in Kenya. (In fact, it may have been aware of this since late 1994 (see Late 1994)). [East African, 1/1/2001] Further evidence confirming and detailing the cell is discovered in May and June of 1996 (see May 21, 1996). By August 1996, US intelligence is continually monitoring five telephone lines in Nairobi used by the cell members, such as Wadih El-Hage. The tapping reveals that the cell is providing false passports and other documents to operatives. They are sending coded telephone numbers to and from al-Qaeda headquarters in Afghanistan. The surveillance is apparently being conducted without the required approval of either President Clinton or Attorney General Janet Reno. [Associated Press, 12/19/2000; East African, 1/1/2001] Prudence Bushnell, the US ambassador to Kenya, will be briefed about the cell in early 1997, but will be told there is no evidence of a specific threat against the embassy or American interests in Kenya. [New York Times, 1/9/1999] Ali Mohamed, an al-Qaeda double agent living in California, will later admit in US court that he had been in long distance contact with Wadih El-Hage, one of the leaders of the cell, since at least 1996. It will also be revealed that US intelligence had been wiretapping Mohamed’s California phone calls since at least 1994 (see Late 1994), so presumably US intelligence is recording calls between Mohamed and the Kenya cell from both ends. The Nairobi phone taps continue until at least August 1997, when Kenyan and US agents conduct a joint search of El-Hage’s Nairobi house (see August 21, 1997). [United States of America v. Ali Mohamed, 10/20/2000; Associated Press, 12/19/2000; East African, 1/1/2001]

Disfranchised
03-16-2008, 10:56 PM
I would love to see them use it. It will just discredit them further. Then I can sing Lier lier Bo's pants are on fire again!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_120.gif
Any intelligent person on this planet would know with all the probing Kenneth Starr and his kind has done over the years there is no leaf in Clinton's past that has not been turned over and examined with microscope.

Jayling
03-16-2008, 10:56 PM
I just found this with a search of 'debunk clinton chronicles'. It's a book called -- 'The Hunting of the President, the 10 year campaign to destroy Bill & Hillary Clinton (http://books.google.com/books?id=AAmNjBw5EQ0C&pg=PA142&lpg=PA142&dq=debunk+Clinton+Chronicles&source=web&ots=POFsC79X1v&sig=lWF0dd9qg9K92gJag0ZFxVUCOj8&hl=en)'

Just now reading the book, so not sure all that's in it.

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Summer-Autumn 1997: CIA Fails to Connect Saudi Charity to Al-Qaeda Plot on US Embassy in Kenya

An informant tells an intelligence agency allied to the US that the Nairobi, Kenya, branch of a Saudi charity named the Al Haramain Foundation is plotting to blow up the US embassy in Nairobi. The chief of the CIA station in Kenya passes on this informant’s warning to Ambassador Prudence Bushnell and others at the embassy. On October 31, 1997, the Kenyan government acts on the informants’ tip, arresting nine Arabs connected to the charity and seizing their files. The CIA sends a special team to analyze the files and finds no evidence of a plot. This team wants to question the nine arrested Arabs, but the CIA station chief refuses to ask the Kenyan government for access to the suspects, saying he doesn’t want to bother them any more about the issue. The CIA drops the investigation and the nine Arabs are deported.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?warning_signs:_specific_cases=1998USE mbassyBombings&timeline=complete_911_timeline

Teri B.
03-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Yeah, I've seen this before. Not very credible sources. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Charlie Brown
03-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Id be worring about what Hannity has to show come Monday if I was Obama.
I thought he was the party of Hope and Not old politics...NOT!

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 11:02 PM
August 7, 1998: Al-Qaeda Bombs US Embassies in Kenya and

Two US embassies in Africa are bombed within minutes of each other. The attack in Nairobi, Kenya, kills 213 people, including 12 US nationals, and injures more than 4,500. The attack in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, kills 11 and injures 85. The attack is blamed on al-Qaeda. [PBS Frontline, 2001] The Tanzania death toll is low because, remarkably, the attack takes place on a national holiday so the US embassy there is closed. [Miller, Stone, and Mitchell, 2002, pp
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?warning_signs:_specific_cases=1998USE mbassyBombings&timeline=complete_911_timeline

freespirit
03-16-2008, 11:02 PM
I think we should write letters to the editors of papers in PA, KY, NC, and other upcoming states, responding to this as a desperate attempt by BO because of his own campaign being destroyed by preacher-gate.

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 11:06 PM
Hillary has already called the Al Queda cards on Heroin trafficking on her Foreign Affairs article Dec 2007. The C.I.A. lost track of Al Queda several times. According the 911 Commission issued by President Bush. See the next threat for the Official Report details of Al Queda.

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 11:07 PM
THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT

Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

A Shock, Not a Surprise
The 9/11 attacks were a shock, but they should not have come as a surprise. Islamist extremists had given plenty of warning that they meant to kill Americans indiscriminately and in large numbers. Although Usama Bin Ladin himself would not emerge as a signal threat until the late 1990s, the threat of Islamist terrorism grew over the decade.

In February 1993, a group led by Ramzi Yousef tried to bring down the World Trade Center with a truck bomb. They killed six and wounded a thousand. Plans by Omar Abdel Rahman and others to blow up the Holland and Lincoln tunnels and other New York City landmarks were frustrated when the plotters were arrested. In October 1993, Somali tribesmen shot down U.S. helicopters, killing 18 and wounding 73 in an incident that came to be known as "Black Hawk down." Years later it would be learned that those Somali tribesmen had received help from al Qaeda.

In early 1995, police in Manila uncovered a plot by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen U.S. airliners while they were flying over the Pacific. In November 1995, a car bomb exploded outside the office of the U.S. program manager for the Saudi National Guard in Riyadh, killing five Americans and two others. In June 1996, a truck bomb demolished the Khobar Towers apartment complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. servicemen and wounding hundreds. The attack was carried out primarily by Saudi Hezbollah, an organization that had received help from the government of Iran.

Until 1997, the U.S. intelligence community viewed Bin Ladin as a financier of terrorism, not as a terrorist leader. In February 1998, Usama Bin Ladin and four others issued a self-styled fatwa, publicly declaring that it was God's decree that every Muslim should try his utmost to kill any American, military or civilian, anywhere in the world, because of American "occupation" of Islam's holy places and aggression against Muslims.

In August 1998, Bin Ladin's group, al Qaeda, carried out near-simultaneous truck bomb attacks on the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. The attacks killed 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounded thousands more.

In December 1999, Jordanian police foiled a plot to bomb hotels and other sites frequented by American tourists, and a U.S. Customs agent arrested Ahmed Ressam at the U.S. Canadian border as he was smuggling in explosives intended for an attack on Los Angeles International Airport.

In October 2000, an al Qaeda team in Aden, Yemen, used a motorboat filled with explosives to blow a hole in the side of a destroyer, the USS Cole, almost sinking the vessel and killing 17 American sailors.

The 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were far more elaborate, precise, and destructive than any of these earlier assaults. But by September 2001, the executive branch of the U.S. government, the Congress, the news media, and the American public had received clear warning that Islamist terrorists meant to kill Americans in high numbers.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Exec.htm

Jayling
03-16-2008, 11:11 PM
I just found this with a search of 'debunk clinton chronicles'. It's a book called -- 'The Hunting of the President, the 10 year campaign to destroy Bill & Hillary Clinton (http://books.google.com/books?id=AAmNjBw5EQ0C&pg=PA142&lpg=PA142&dq=debunk+Clinton+Chronicles&source=web&ots=POFsC79X1v&sig=lWF0dd9qg9K92gJag0ZFxVUCOj8&hl=en)'

Just now reading the book, so not sure all that's in it.
Sorry for quoting myself, but this lengthy book appears to answer all these charges. If you need answers to the barbs that the bloggers may spew, you'll probably find it there.

The Clintons, young Obamanites, have already been vetted!

SantaCruzen
03-16-2008, 11:17 PM
Sorry for quoting myself, but this lengthy book appears to answer all these charges. If you need answers to the barbs that the bloggers may spew, you'll probably find it there.

The Clintons, young Obamanites, have already been vetted!

Great, now we need to quotes for the blog areas. Also, John Edwards Counsel, Daniel Sheehan, J.D. also worked on Watergate which if I recall right, I read that Hillary Clinton has something to do with Water Gate too? Do you know?

foreigner4hillary
03-17-2008, 03:42 AM
It's a sad fact people. Success breeds contempt. The GOP hated Bill so much simply because he posed a threat to their establishment. He was the only viable democrat. He was and still is popular, influential and savvy.

Small minded fools will always try to bring such people down to their levels. They believe that if you hurl enough mud, something will stick. Monica Lewinsky was one such case. However, while inexcusable, it has no bearing on his ability to lead a nation.

To be honest, I will not be surprised if Monica was an agent. Very few men can unfortunately withstand seduction! I'll quote Chris Rock here "men are as faithful as their options" :p

While it's obviously an exaggeration, it does hold a grain of truth.