View Full Version : (March 17, 2008): "Edwards' Endorsement Of Clinton Imminent?" (Huffington Post)
G4Hillary
03-18-2008, 12:59 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/edwards-endorsement-of-c_b_91980.html
The problem for Edwards is that the window of opportunity to make such an endorsement (and have it be relevant) is fast closing. I have written about this before, calling on Edwards, Gore, and Richardson to make up their minds, already. And it bears mentioning that if Edwards endorses Clinton, but Gore (or, to a lesser extent, Richardson) endorses Obama, it could be seen as balancing out for the two campaigns.
Soaring Eagle
03-18-2008, 01:01 AM
That would be awesome! To bad it was not before Iowa edwards supporters gave Obama 7 more delegates.:(
neutralplayer
03-18-2008, 01:02 AM
This would help Clinton in NC.
B positive
03-18-2008, 01:05 AM
Check out ABC nightline now!! okay - it's done... was just referring to Obama's LIE FEST II tomorrow.
G4Hillary
03-18-2008, 01:07 AM
B positive, what did I miss?
I would be VERY shocked & confused if Gore endorse Obama. I see no overlap in their respective styles of politics.
neutralplayer
03-18-2008, 01:21 AM
From what I can see, I think Gore has shown no interests in getting involve in the presidential race.
Charlie Brown
03-18-2008, 01:24 AM
I hope Edwards Endorses her...Damn he should of done it before Iowas county conventions. That would of made a huge differance, I know it would have, I talked to many Edwards people and they were waiting for his lead,
Rita Lyn
03-18-2008, 01:45 AM
Hey! I don't think there's any chance whatsoever that Al Gore, Bill Richardson or John Edwards will ever endorse Obama. I think before the Pa. voting, you'll see them all come out in support of Hillary. Why do you say that Rita Lyn? OK, I'll tell you.
Hillary's healthplan is the most like John Edward's plan. Like Hillary, he wants everyone covered. Also, Hillary's economic experience links close to his idea of 2 Americas. As for Al Gore, he knows the Clintons. The Clintons also know the very best man to put in charge of America's global warming issues is Gore. Obama will want to put John Kerry in charge of it. Bill Richardson, will stay within his circle of comfort.
Not to mention the fact that with the Rev. Wright comments lingering in America's ears, none of them will touch Obama. His chances of winning the general election with the type of swift boat hits the Republicans are going to pelt him with, are zero. We as Democrats may get beyond the comments, but trust me, the Republicans are licking their chops over them.
mooaks
03-18-2008, 01:50 AM
I would be VERY shocked & confused if Gore endorse Obama. I see no overlap in their respective styles of politics.
I believe that he is going to keep his minister as his friend and follow it up with the reason for the anger in his church. Sort of like a plea for understanding and that he can bridge those racial feelings gap. Maybe he'd like to explain how he fired the first shot across the Clinton's bow in South Carolina and why he derisively said that Hillary was a Punjab. I have never witnessed such a stark turnaround towards Hillary and Bill Clinton. It's almost as though they are saying "We don't need you anymore whitey" We've got our own guy now. Well, they can have him. We need a president for all the people. Not one that will make excuses for behavior like his spiritual leader spews from the pulpit.:eek:
Sincere
03-18-2008, 02:03 AM
I sent John and Elizabeth an e-mail a couple days ago. I implored them to endorse Hillary. I said the time was now. I said the two of them together could get an adequate health program in place for everyone.
I mentioned that my daughter has breast cancer that has metastasized to her bones and I knew Elizabeth also had that concern. i mentioned some of us can afford the extremely expensive treatments and medicines for cancer but so many just cannot.
I hope my plea made an impact.
Hillary and John's plans are so similar.
B positive
03-18-2008, 02:17 AM
B positive, what did I miss?
Nothing... it was a teaser and after the commercial Bashir just advertised the speech to be made tomorrow and that Nightline would be covering it Tues pm.
Sincere- I am sorry to hear about your daughter's breast cancer... she is in my thoughts.
Cooney
03-18-2008, 02:40 AM
I have no idea what Edwards and Richardson have been waiting for. The press "Huff Post", if you call that press had BO meeting with Gore X2 in the past weeks, what is that about. I would not be surprised if Gore endorsed BamBam. I would be fired up though if Edwards endorsed Hillary, every new nail helps seal the political coffin lid. :o I still have friends who are saddened he dropped out of the race.
Sincere
03-18-2008, 02:43 AM
Nothing... it was a teaser and after the commercial Bashir just advertised the speech to be made tomorrow and that Nightline would be covering it Tues pm.
Sincere- I am sorry to hear about your daughter's breast cancer... she is in my thoughts.
Thanks much. My daughter is doing well and mostly because of family helping her and a Johns Hopkins vaccination clinical trial. We learned quickly how expensive cancer can be though.
Peppermint Patty
03-18-2008, 03:00 AM
I would be utterly shocked and saddened if Gore endorsed Nobama. Considering how close the Clintons and Gores "appeared" to be all those years, why on earth would he consider endorsing BO? :eek:
I have such great admiration for Gore and I hope he stays out of it. I don't see why he'd want to enter the fray especially now after the Rev. Wright debacle.
My last ounce of faith in the Democratic party would be shattered if Gore endorsed NObama. :(
As for Edwards, who knows what he's going to do -- but I hope that he wisely held back all this time to wait and see what shakes out. Hopefully this Rev. Wright issue will prevent him from finally endosing BO.
I am really afraid of the NObama speech tomorrow night. If he weasels his way out of this once again with the facaca boneheaded decision excuse, and everybody falls for that line AGAIN, "oh, there, there, you poor little Barack you had no idea, we understand, etc." I will absolutely SCREAM!!!!
Meanwhile, where's MY email invite to the Wilshire theatre event??? :D
tcbwriter
03-18-2008, 03:25 AM
I just read an article about Rob Reiner's endorsement of Hillary several months ago. In the article Rob mentioned that he is really good friends of Al Gore.
I know Al was a little miffed with Bill and.didn't ask for his help when he ran for President, but I don't think that carries over to Hillary. I frankly think Al is a bigger person than that.
Remember too that Gore endorsed Dean in 2004, not Kerry and not Lieberman.
tcbwriter
03-18-2008, 03:28 AM
Edwards has said all along he's not sure about Obama because he doesn't think he's a fighter. He recognizes that the Republicans will run all over him.
It's a little hard to know what he thinks of Hillary. Early on in the campaign they were very friendly and then he started attacking her. That may just be because she was the front runner at the time but it seemed he kept it up well after Barack rose to frontrunner status. It wasn't until his last debate that he came down on Barrack . . .
MarkMiller
03-18-2008, 04:06 AM
I'm thinking this will all play out over the next couple of days.
Keep positive thoughts.:D
I'm thinking this will all play out over the next couple of days.
Keep positive thoughts.:D
Let's hope so!
foreigner4hillary
03-18-2008, 04:11 AM
Edwards is probably working out an agreement with Hillary now. There's no other reason why he would have requested for his delegates to remain his.
If they have already worked something out, then I'm pretty sure he's just waiting for an appropriate moment.
joeysky18
03-18-2008, 04:33 AM
If they have already worked something out, then I'm pretty sure he's just waiting for an appropriate moment.
The sooner he come out the better. And he better not endorse Obama.
Patsy
03-18-2008, 04:49 AM
I just read an article about Rob Reiner's endorsement of Hillary several months ago. In the article Rob mentioned that he is really good friends of Al Gore.
I know Al was a little miffed with Bill and.didn't ask for his help when he ran for President, but I don't think that carries over to Hillary. I frankly think Al is a bigger person than that.
Remember too that Gore endorsed Dean in 2004, not Kerry and not Lieberman.
I had forgotten that Gore endorsed Dean in 2004. I think that spells a big problem. He has no affection for the Clintons and that escalated after he "lost" in 2000. And we know what Dean is up to. If Al is in cahoots with Dean, then that's not good.
joeysky18
03-18-2008, 04:56 AM
I had forgotten that Gore endorsed Dean in 2004. I think that spells a big problem. He has no affection for the Clintons and that escalated after he "lost" in 2000. And we know what Dean is up to. If Al is in cahoots with Dean, then that's not good.
If he really believe in his "Save the World from Global Warming" campaign, he will know that the best thing for him to do is endorse Hillary.
Patsy
03-18-2008, 05:02 AM
If he really believe in his "Save the World from Global Warming" campaign, he will know that the best thing for him to do is endorse Hillary.
I hope his time off from Politics and his full-time dedication to Environmental Causes, which were a huge concern of his during the 90s, will bode well. I hadn't really thought of it like that before. He and Hillary were both ahead of their times. He with the Environment and she with Health Care. Perhaps they will have much common ground and he will be able to look at it that way.
Thank you for reminding me and opening my eyes up again.
Well what good would an Edwards endorsement be now? Its' like the victory of Pyrrhus!
Patsy
03-18-2008, 05:43 AM
Well what good would an Edwards endorsement be now? Its' like the victory of Pyrrhus!
Every Super in NC had endorsed him, so it could bode very well for her in NC if he were to endorse before the Primary on May 6.
no_more_bush
03-18-2008, 05:59 AM
I didn't know Gore met with Obama twice lately... Didn't Hillary help him campaign? I know she at least made an appearance with him during his campaign because there's a picture of them hugging at a campaign event.
Has Hillary gained any super-delegates since her loses in mid-February? The fact that she still has the lead in super-delegates really makes all those petitions and calls for her to get out of the race look meaningless.
Every Super in NC had endorsed him, so it could bode very well for her in NC if he were to endorse before the Primary on May 6.
Let's hope that Edwards really pitches for her then...I wish he'd done the same in Iowa!
Patsy
03-18-2008, 06:12 AM
Let's hope that Edwards really pitches for her then...I wish he'd done the same in Iowa!
I'm not sure what he's playing with right now. He did ask his delegates not to switch to anyone, but they did anyway.
He's pretty much guaranteed the AG position from whomever he endorses, but I think he must not be enjoying this Rev. Wright stuff very much at the moment.
He really needs to endorse her. I mean their HC plans are the same and Bill's Charity organization is huge and down in New Orleans right now. Which could be viewed as a sign...if I'm lucky!!!
no_more_bush
03-18-2008, 07:03 AM
I'm not sure what he's playing with right now. He did ask his delegates not to switch to anyone, but they did anyway.
He's pretty much guaranteed the AG position from whomever he endorses, but I think he must not be enjoying this Rev. Wright stuff very much at the moment.
He really needs to endorse her. I mean their HC plans are the same and Bill's Charity organization is huge and down in New Orleans right now. Which could be viewed as a sign...if I'm lucky!!!
Why do you say that? Is Edwards involved in that organization or does he live in New Orleans?
Also about the delegates, was that Iowa convention held in order to decide who received Edward's pledged delegates?
RayinAR
03-18-2008, 09:04 AM
I sent John and Elizabeth an e-mail a couple days ago. I implored them to endorse Hillary. I said the time was now. I said the two of them together could get an adequate health program in place for everyone.
I mentioned that my daughter has breast cancer that has metastasized to her bones and I knew Elizabeth also had that concern. i mentioned some of us can afford the extremely expensive treatments and medicines for cancer but so many just cannot.
I hope my plea made an impact.
Hillary and John's plans are so similar.
How do you Email them? could you post here and send me a private with the link? I have to go to the hospital right now and I want to email them when I get back.
Sincere
03-18-2008, 12:46 PM
How do you Email them? could you post here and send me a private with the link? I have to go to the hospital right now and I want to email them when I get back.
http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/
samkm
03-18-2008, 12:48 PM
I had been emailing there for sometime BUT not lately bec it gives an immediate stock response.. so not sure it is getting checked.. Your thoughts on this? If you feel it is worthwhile, i will email him and Liz and often.
Sincere
03-18-2008, 12:56 PM
Were seen having lunch a a week or so ago.
Sincere
03-18-2008, 12:59 PM
I had been emailing there for sometime BUT not lately bec it gives an immediate stock response.. so not sure it is getting checked.. Your thoughts on this? If you feel it is worthwhile, i will email him and Liz and often.
I am not sure it is being checked either. I did not get a response.
lucky-ann
03-18-2008, 01:19 PM
wow, that would be great! i didn't expect edwards to endorse her:)...how reliable is this information in your view??
tcbwriter
03-18-2008, 02:25 PM
Were seen having lunch a a week or so ago.
Who's Clyborn?
Sincere
03-18-2008, 02:36 PM
Who's Clyborn?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x610
Charlie Brown
03-18-2008, 02:41 PM
Why do you say that? Is Edwards involved in that organization or does he live in New Orleans?
Also about the delegates, was that Iowa convention held in order to decide who received Edward's pledged delegates?
The Iowa County convention is like a caucus with the delegates already seated. There you want to pick up the delegates form the cannidates that dropped out. We didnt get any because no Richardson people turned up and the Edwards stayed put with him. For instance Hillary had 3 BO had 4 and edwards had 1. In our county alone mind you...The state- Bo 28, Hillary 14 and Edwards 7. It is good though because some of them would have gone to BO and hillary would have picked up more. But Bo would have benefited. Now John can deside. Or this will go on to the state convention and then the national. It depends what they are worth to Hillary. He wants a spot in the white house Im sure.
Laura Cereta
03-18-2008, 02:59 PM
I emailed Edwards a while ago and implored him to endorse Hillary. I'm sure he's heard plenty from both campaigns. Despite the "union thing", I think it's obvious that the core group of voters that Edwards was appealing to are consistently voting Clinton.
An Edwards endorsement would be awesome. I think it WOULD help in NC and I'm still holding out hope that Hillary can take my ex-state (used to live there). A 7-8 point deficit is not too much to overcome, especially with some (hopefully) big momentum from Pennsylvania. A NC win for Hillary but be a big psychological blow to BO as well.
Laura Cereta
03-18-2008, 03:04 PM
The Iowa County convention is like a caucus with the delegates already seated. There you want to pick up the delegates form the cannidates that dropped out. We didnt get any because no Richardson people turned up and the Edwards stayed put with him. For instance Hillary had 3 BO had 4 and edwards had 1. In our county alone mind you...The state- Bo 28, Hillary 14 and Edwards 7. It is good though because some of them would have gone to BO and hillary would have picked up more. But Bo would have benefited. Now John can deside. Or this will go on to the state convention and then the national. It depends what they are worth to Hillary. He wants a spot in the white house Im sure.
I have never studied the Iowa delegate convention process. Can anyone explain to me how BO was supposed to get 16 (I think) delegates from the state, and instead he got 28? I understand he somehow "picked up" delegates, but what about the will of the voters? Do these delegates that switched not feel a need to speak accurately for the voters they represent? Doesn't seem right... Anyone out there from Iowa who can tell me what's up?
tcbwriter
03-18-2008, 03:13 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x610
Okay thanks . . . I knew that, just didn't put it together when I read it. Another senior moment. :O)
Jayling
03-18-2008, 03:14 PM
I have never studied the Iowa delegate convention process. Can anyone explain to me how BO was supposed to get 16 (I think) delegates from the state, and instead he got 28? I understand he somehow "picked up" delegates, but what about the will of the voters? Do these delegates that switched not feel a need to speak accurately for the voters they represent? Doesn't seem right... Anyone out there from Iowa who can tell me what's up?
Cultfree, it's a very complex system. It's so complicated it could make a lawyer squirm.
Here's a link to the GreenPapers (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/IA-D.phtml#0103), which explains it all, even showing the math, plus links to the official rules and guidelines. The only place on the internet that does.
RayinAR
03-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Dear John and Elizabeth, I am begging you now. Please come out and endorse Hillary Clinton. After this Jeremiah Wright stuff has come out this really scares me. Your health care plan was almost like Hillary's. She has the experience and the guts to do what needs to be done. If Obama wins this nomination I and every democrat I know will give as much money and time as we possibly can to John Mccain. Let the Democrats win in November. Endorse Hillary now....Thank you.
This was the Letter I sent to John Edwards. Hopefully they check the site.
freespirit
03-18-2008, 06:12 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/edwards-endorsement-of-c_b_91980.html
Great news about Edwards - and about time! On Gore and Richardson - They would be fools to endorse BO at this point with preacher-gate questions still looming large. Hope they realize that!
lucky-ann
03-18-2008, 07:42 PM
i hope he hurries up with his endorsement (if it's true)...i think that could change the media spin and she would get the Edwards delegates, right?
Ohio mom
03-20-2008, 01:22 PM
I haven't had much time to check out any of the news channels lately,, any word on John Edwards and his possibly endorsing Hillary???
G4Hillary
03-20-2008, 01:55 PM
I haven't had much time to check out any of the news channels lately,, any word on John Edwards and his possibly endorsing Hillary???
nothing new. he's still on the sidelines.
Ohio mom
03-20-2008, 01:56 PM
nothing new. he's still on the sidelines.
ugh!!! he's taking too long...thanks though!!!
Robin Orlowski
03-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Given past joint work. I am however noticing that he's not as obvious on the campaign trail anymore. Maybe it was the fallout over the minister. I don't hear stories about him stumping around the country anymore. ;)
LetsHelpAmerica
03-20-2008, 02:25 PM
nothing new. he's still on the sidelines.
By Friday or Saturday ( AM ) John Edwards will endorse Hillary Clinton. He will be clear that his decision was difficult, that he was driven by the need to unify the democratic party. He will have nothing negative to say about Obama, just that he feels that Hillary will be better suited to win in the general election due to the current climate.
Carolyn
03-20-2008, 02:25 PM
Leno announced this last night with a little teaser, "I wonder if he'll announce who he's endorsing?" wink wink. watch and see!
mrkalbo
03-20-2008, 02:37 PM
Given past joint work. I am however noticing that he's not as obvious on the campaign trail anymore. Maybe it was the fallout over the minister. I don't hear stories about him stumping around the country anymore. ;)
Just old time political tricks by old long overdue politicians. These guys just wants a free ride on BO's recent surge with the masses but now because of this scandal we can see them hiding hurriedly under their bed.
movingtous
03-20-2008, 02:44 PM
He's got to come out before PA and NC! Otherwise, I don't see the point in such late endorsements.
handymanhdw
03-20-2008, 11:54 PM
We're nearing the time frame that if this doesn't happen soon, it may be too late. OB can not possibly be elected. The republicans are going to throw him in the shredder. It ticks me off to see the CNN networks talking up the fact that the Dem party is in disarray, NOT AT ALL, WE believe in finding the RIGHT CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB! and that the cream will come to the top! I believe it has! The repubs somehow settled for a "less electable candidate" than the two we have. Our X-Joe Liebermann has to correct him in his foreign policy replys. Is that really what we need? Fox noise continues to tote that the Dems are behind in the polls in the national election. Hog Wash! Hillary will win by 15 points over the retirement center republican.... count on it! The repubs are running skit-less and are selling their gas stocks as we speak! Go figure..... OBAMA IS NOT ELECTIBLE, HILLARY IS!!!!!!
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