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writerchick
08-15-2008, 06:34 PM
O M G. Huffpo has gone over the edge. They have lost their minds! The spin in this is unbelievable - of course everything is backed up by pro-Obama journalists like Mark Arbinder and the ever popular "Clinton Confidentes"... and of course, a LANNY DAVIS foot in the mouth comment... why does he sell himself out like that?! Anyway, apparently we're all a Republican plot and Hills and Obama are BFFs!!! (uh, okay, I guess us and Bill Clinton are the only ones who don't realize there's a love fest going on?)

Here is the authors email in case you might want to drop him a note: stein@huffingtonpost.com

Over the past few weeks, the Republican National Committee has made it a point of pride to send out memos portraying a great fissure between the respective camps of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Last Thursday, for instance, saw an email with the subject line "The Healing Process Was Far From Over." Earlier the party blasted out stories showing Clinton supporters demanding a vote at the Democratic Convention. Then, when that vote was granted on Thursday, the RNC sent out a clip from Michael Goodwin of the New York Daily News, titled "Barack Obama blinks in Hillary face-off."

It's enough to give the impression (certainly, it's designed to give the impression) that chaos is ripping apart the Democratic Party, leading waves of Clinton backers to the precipice of defecting to John McCain.

It is almost completely untrue. In actuality, as Marc Ambinder noted on Friday and as several Clinton confidantes have told the Huffington Post, the two Democrats are far closer towards political unity than imagined when their primary fight ended.

"This is all a tempest in a teapot driven by a whole lot of media sources and the RNC looking to make trouble," said Mike Berman, a longtime Democratic hand and friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Moreover, Thursday's announcement that Clinton would get a roll call vote at the convention -- in the process placating her supporters and providing her with the chance to state her support for Obama -- is seen even by the most hardened Clinton fanatics as an important step towards reconciliation.

"I was on record saying I didn't think this was a good idea, because I was worried about the PUMA [Party Unity My Ass] supporters, people who are indifferent to a McCain presidency and are only driven by anger, which is not to criticize them, that is a genuine emotion," Lanny Davis, one of Clinton's more vocal supporters, told the Huffington Post. "That is reality and I thought that giving her a roll call vote would be destructive and counterproductive at the convention, because it is impossible to control the way the media would cover it. The most vocal Obama critics would be surround by 50 television cameras and be given their 50 seconds of fame."

It turned out, Davis went on, "that I had less faith than my candidate and Sen. Obama... The compromise they have just announced pulls off the exact solution that allows people to cast their votes and allows people like me to separate ourselves from the five percent of folks who weren't going to support Obama no matter what."

So how to explain the incessant speculation that the Clinton and Obama camps are irreconcilably at odds? There are a number of theories. The primary battles, which went on longer than any prior, are still fresh in people's minds. Bill Clinton's off-the-cuff failure to offer even the slightest hint of rhetorical support for Obama is giving observers a false impression. Certainly the relatively slow mutual fundraising efforts haven't helped matters. And the occasional political misstep (like, say, having a "Pray for HRC and her supporters" event posted on Obama's website by his backers) is an irritant as well.

But the most significant contributor towards the overstated perception of animosity is also the most obvious: the individuals invested in the idea that Obama and Clinton cannot overcome their differences are the ones speaking the loudest.

On Friday, a superdelegate told the Huffington Post that after the roll call vote was announced, she was sent more than 250 separate emails from PUMA representatives urging her to buck the primary results.

"The Democratic VOTERS want you to support a real winner and leader. The American PEOPLE want you to. Common Sense wants you to. A commitment to DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES wants you to.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. AMERICAN DEMOCRATS AND VOTERS WILL SUPPORT YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND WILLINGNESS TO STAND UP TO PARTY INSIDERS BY REPRESENTING THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS."

There is no similar effort, for obvious reasons, coming from Clinton supporters who are content with how the process has played out.

Then, of course, there is the Republican Party, which directly benefits from the perception of irreconcilable differences between the two camps. John McCain, for starters, has made direct overtures to Clinton backers. The RNC, meanwhile, has resorted to an email campaign that seems more designed to drive a media narrative than document actual political events.

"I don't think Hillary has pushed [the Obama camp] hard about what she wanted in particular... so I don't know what the big deal is. People are looking to make something that is not here, which is my view. And if it is the Republicans doing it that drives home the point that they are making something out of nothing," said Berman. "She will give a great speech at the convention. Her supporters will cheer for her vigorously, and then Obama will take it over and very few people will remember that there was ever talk of problems."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/15/clinton-obama-conflict-ma_n_119217.html

Mrsawd
08-15-2008, 06:38 PM
Lies and more lies !

Lanny no wonder he did not answer my email !

B positive
08-15-2008, 06:41 PM
On Friday, a superdelegate told the Huffington Post that after the roll call vote was announced, she was sent more than 250 separate emails from PUMA representatives urging her to buck the primary results.

:pROAR!!!:p

Tim4Hillary
08-15-2008, 06:43 PM
If that's the way the want to play the game then we need to save all of these articles and statements by Democrats so that if Obama loses and they start crying it's all Hillary and her supporters fault we can throw this back in their face and say well "here you said we were unified!"

Alex01
08-15-2008, 06:54 PM
O M G. Huffpo has gone over the edge. They have lost their minds!

Thanks, WriterChick. Here's my post:

Here's what's actually happening in the Democratic Party. It's kind of like a fairy tale. Once upon a time, Howard Dean and Donna Brazile heard a pretty speech by a pretty man called Barry Soetoro. Well, he used to be called that, now he's called Barack Obama. Whatever.

Then they thought, "Wow, lots of people thought he gave a really good speech - let's make him be president!" One person asked, "Shouldn't we see what this guy is all about first?" Donna and Howard laughed, "No, you silly person. Why would we want to know if he has an terrorist friends, or has been going to an anti-American church for 20 years, or anything about his voting and legislative records? That would be stupid!"

So Howard and Donna and Barry/Barack merrily made their way from 2004 to 2008, setting up what they thought was a foolproof system to steal an election. And they almost succeeded! It was very exciting. But they were fooled by the brains and ethics of the American people. See, Howard and Donna thought that the American people had no ethics and no brains, just like them.

But it turns out that there was a magical machine called the "internets," and the people went on the internets and found out astonishing things about Barry/Barack that made them not want to vote for him, ever. The end.

Bella
08-15-2008, 07:05 PM
De nile aint just a river in Egypt. :rolleyes:

neophyter
08-15-2008, 07:13 PM
Hey, hey Alex01 .... that was a great 'press release'.

I feel like I'm living in a separate world where fantasy reigns and the truth is false. Turn it around and what's false is true. :confused:

writerchick
08-15-2008, 07:28 PM
Thanks, WriterChick. Here's my post:


OH, that made me laugh so hard. I'm sure they're all a'flutter over it!

Justmy.02
08-15-2008, 07:42 PM
I had to quit reading the Obots comments or I might have had to take some of that 'medication' they're talking about.

Talk about spineless minions...

CGP
08-15-2008, 07:47 PM
If that's the way the want to play the game then we need to save all of these articles and statements by Democrats so that if Obama loses and they start crying it's all Hillary and her supporters fault we can throw this back in their face and say well "here you said we were unified!"

Good point. ;)

mesofreee
08-15-2008, 08:05 PM
If there is no rift, and most Dems are happy with the process so far, and this is all a republican ploy...

Then Obama is IN A LOT WORSE SHAPE than if there were a rift.

That would mean that all of us are really "republicans posing as democrats" and Obama HAS ALL THE SUPPORT HE IS GOING TO GET! In other words, there are no 18 million Clinton supporters waiting to come back to the party and boost BO's numbers! The Dem's are S C R E W E D either way!