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Sandy in PA
08-15-2008, 10:54 PM
Good article on the obama "taxation without representation" plan and how it impacts women, in particular.

The Obama campaign has at long last lifted the veil of mystery that has surrounded the Democratic presidential candidate's tax increase plans. Mr. Obama's two economic advisers, Jason Furman and Austan Goolsbee, have an op-ed piece in today's Wall Street Journal, and it isn't pretty. To begin with, they propose bringing back the 39.6% top income tax bracket, an increase from the 35% current top rate. On top of that, he'd impose a new payroll tax on those top earners of 2% to 4%, bringing their marginal tax rate to as high as 43.6%. Add to that the top New York City income tax rate of 3.648% and the top New York State income tax rate of 6.85%, and the nominal marginal income tax rate mounts to a staggering 54%. Because Mr. Obama proposes to put the capital gains and dividend tax rate at 20% even for the "rich" — a mere 33% increase over the current 15% rate — expect to see plenty of high earners scurrying to find creative ways of structuring their income as capital gains or dividends rather than as earned income.

Meanwhile, the most astonishing sentence in the op-ed is this one: "His plan would not raise any taxes on couples making less than $250,000 a year, nor on any single person with income under $200,000." It amounts to a declaration of war on two-income families, a marriage penalty of punitive proportions. If those two single persons with income just under $200,000 get married, Mr. Obama is going to hammer them with a huge tax increase. If the second earner, who in many cases is the woman, is going to have to give 54% of what she earns to the government, she might as well stay home with the children. Mr. Obama may be able to get away with symbolic slights to women, such as not picking Senator Clinton as vice president. But punishing them with confiscatory taxes for participating in the workforce at a high income level moves the slight into the realm of substance.

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obamas-war-on-women/83871/

Optixmom
08-15-2008, 10:57 PM
Whoa...I never thought about this from the single to married scenario. Holy Crap!

Sandy in PA
08-15-2008, 11:12 PM
Whoa...I never thought about this from the single to married scenario. Holy Crap!

Never occurred to me, either.

You have to wonder who is advising the idiot.

santafegal
08-15-2008, 11:18 PM
The last thing any of us needs right now is higher anything. :rolleyes:

ragdoll
08-15-2008, 11:26 PM
Look for more increases. Obama has already increased the tax amount and he isn't in office yet. With the amount of spending that he has in mind and the tax cuts to many others on top of his admitting that he will not even try to budget the deficit, but will indeed increase it, that money will have to come from somewhere. If he makes President, all will suffer. If you are not in the bracket to be taxed, than the tax increases will be passed on to the consumer.

swannyj
08-15-2008, 11:30 PM
We are in deep trouble if he gets in AND has a Dem majority in Congress.

santafek
08-15-2008, 11:50 PM
We are in deep trouble if he gets in AND has a Dem majority in Congress.
That sums it up. That article does not tell the whole story. Capital gains taxes will increase--hellooooo--our pensions, small businesses will suffer.
Tax and spend. Tax and spend. And what about the national debt?

Vici57
08-16-2008, 12:18 AM
I think Obama and staff are completely brain dead! This is unbelievable. I hope the MSM reports on some of this tax plan. I don't think anyone will be happy with it.

SantaCruzen
08-16-2008, 12:22 AM
Obummer!

No, we cannot allow that!

Annie
08-16-2008, 12:23 AM
We are in deep trouble if he gets in AND has a Dem majority in Congress.

He must not get in and unfortunately for the Democratic Party and those rats who voted against their constituents wishes - hopefully they won't get re-elected either.

Best scenario is a 50 50 Repub/Dem in congress - or maybe 50% Repub/48% Dem with 2 Independents.

Hillarysmygirl08
08-16-2008, 12:32 AM
yes does he dispise women. Goodness.

We_Count
08-16-2008, 12:33 AM
Never occurred to me, either.

You have to wonder who is advising the idiot.

or why does he hate women so much. This is the first I had seen of his tax plan.

Kbentleyis
08-16-2008, 12:49 AM
And, this is such a small part of this economy platform. What next? wait I didn't ask that right?

Holy crap!

This is so BHO. Only part of the information so he can later say "I've always said in my policy... blah blah blah

Hillicrat
08-16-2008, 01:09 AM
Raising taxes will flock people to the republican party. I don't intend to remarry anyway.

SoCal4Hillary
08-16-2008, 01:12 AM
Now, tell me again...WHY are people supporting this dolt? :confused:

wildheart4mcpalin
08-16-2008, 01:37 AM
Real man o' the people, eh? Real "friend" to the working class, huh? Tax the hell out of everything, bloat the national debt, have tea with terrorists, let's see....... oh right- he is sooooo much better than Hillary. What was I thinking? I'd better run right over to his campaign office and sign up...... NOT

MaryKay
08-16-2008, 01:40 AM
If I recall, Hillary said NOBODY who was making under 250g would see any increase. Big difference. Obama's plan is supposed to impact anyone making over 42 g's.

Tim4Hillary
08-16-2008, 04:49 AM
included how she would pay for it. And she always had great arguments to back everything up. These Obama people don't know what they are doing.

Perry Logan
08-16-2008, 08:12 AM
It's small wonder his economic ideas suck. Obama comes from the University of Chicago, whose crackpot (i.e., right-wing) economic ideas have ravaged countries all over the globe.