View Full Version : (Aug 16, 2008): "The Denver Accords" (NY Times) - according to this author, "peace" has come to the Democratic Party?!
Full Article: NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/opinion/16collins.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin)
More propaganda...:rolleyes:
Crises abound in our troubled world, but think positive. At least it appears that peace has come to the Democratic Party.
Word went out this week that Hillary Clinton’s name is, indeed, going to be put in nomination at the convention, “as a show of unity and in recognition of the historic race she ran,” according to a joint Obama-Clinton press release, written in language so careful that it might have emanated from the United Nations Panel on System-wide Coherence.
The folks at the top of the food chain were the very picture of good fellowship.
Yes, down in the grass-roots, there are still some sullen stalks. But the vast majority of Hillaryites seem prepared to accept the new accord as an indication that their heroine will get the proper respect. The tanks have turned around.
writerchick
08-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Uh... wow. There needs to be some correction about the "sullen stalks"...
Comment here:
http://collins.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/respond-to-todays-column-the-denver-accords/#respond
santafek
08-16-2008, 11:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/opinion/16collins.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
More on the Unity Now theme. That boat has soooo sailed. They don't get it that it's about the undemocratic Democratic party. And PUMAS are now the bad cats.
NYT, Aug. 16, '08
Crises abound in our troubled world, but think positive. At least it appears that peace has come to the Democratic Party.
Seriously — good work, Democrats. There is no greater achievement than the nonviolent resolution of differences, and we’ll take it on whatever level we can get it. Organizing a harmonious convention is not exactly a new Middle East roadmap. But like all settlements between enemy forces, it required leaders who were willing to forego the temptation to appear tough at all times, and followers prepared to get over it, whatever historical wound “it” happens to represent. For an example of a situation in which both these factors are AWOL, see the current conflict in Georgia.
On its face, the Hillary resolution appears pretty obvious. The woman got more than 1,900 delegates, for heaven’s sake. If she wants to be nominated, she’s going to be nominated.
But the last thing the Obamaites needed was a long spectacle on national television in which one state after another stood up, gave a plug for its tourist attractions, and then cast a divided vote, while the delegate lead switched back and forth until Barack won. And Obama had some power — if not to stop Clinton, at least to make her look like a sore loser who was trying to torpedo the party’s chances in November.
Then — happy ending! Barack refrained from flexing his muscles, although any man condemned to a three-month-long steel cage match with John McCain must have been tempted to go for the mindless macho route.
Hillary, for her part, will not see her historic achievement recorded in the convention records. The details aren’t public, but it seems likely that after her name is put in nomination, even before the first roll call, she’ll release her delegates and urge them to vote for Obama. Her most ardent supporters will still get to cast their votes for their heroine. (The word “catharsis” comes up frequently in these discussions.) But most of her delegates, including Clinton herself, would switch over to Barack.
Everybody is not going to be appeased. PUMA, or People United Means Action, is an excellent example of the Ossetia branch of the Hillary camp. Darragh Murphy, the PUMA spokeswoman, said that while her members are extremely happy about the agreement, it will have no effect whatsoever on their plans for perpetual resistance. Unless their state allows write-ins, she said, most PUMA members will stay home or vote for John McCain in November to protest the way Democratic leaders “allowed the primary campaign to go forward with the sexism in the media going unchecked by the party, along with the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan, and the shenanigans in Iowa and Texas in the caucuses.”
Yes, down in the grass-roots, there are still some sullen stalks. But the vast majority of Hillaryites seem prepared to accept the new accord as an indication that their heroine will get the proper respect. The tanks have turned around.
Those Democrats sure do know how to work together. Maybe next they’ll be able to figure out how to keep their primaries from starting around Christmas.
lynfreedom
08-16-2008, 11:09 PM
And what land do they live in...oh kool aid land Maybe we should produce a new gameboard
Alex01
08-16-2008, 11:17 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/opinion/16collins.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
More on the Unity Now theme. That boat has soooo sailed. They don't get it that it's about the undemocratic Democratic party. And PUMAS are now the bad cats.
NYT, Aug. 16, '08
Santafek, thank you for this thread. This article is no more than rank propaganda. It's an attempt to make Hillary supporters think it's all over, when it's clearly not. What it is is:
Same $#!t, different day.
Nice try, Gail. Thanks for doing what your corporate overlords told you to. The only problem? PUMAs aren't stupid. We won't fall for your continued lies and deceit. We've seen it all, and it falls off of us like water off a PUMAs back.
America is on to your fake candidate, whether you're pushing him so McCain can win, or so Obama can be a puppet for corporate America. That is why Barack Obama's polls are streaking towards the ground at supersonic speed, comparitively speaking. Get ready for the nuclear explosion.
Hillarysmygirl08
08-16-2008, 11:19 PM
The thing is there should have not been an Denver Accords in the first place. She should have been given the same respect as anyone who ever came before her. She should not be honored to just take 2ND place. The fact that this whole Accord is phony. It's designed to get our votes. It seems that now PUMA is getting the blame. I do not see the Denver Accords as a peace movement. Just more propaganda. I still think she is going to win this. I just am tired of the way everyone is slamming her.
Bad Kitty
08-16-2008, 11:25 PM
Peace??? That's not a word I would use to describe what has been brought to the Dem party.
santafek
08-16-2008, 11:27 PM
Oh, silly me, you all are still not swept away by unity now. My husband sent this citation to me, and he was irate when he read it. IT seems we are all as ticked off as we were 7 months ago. Just not getting over it.
VotingHillary
08-16-2008, 11:51 PM
Ladies and gentlemen...do not get your knickers in a twist..it is the NY Times that bastion of "integrity" whose reporters have been caught passing off fiction as news.
santafegal
08-16-2008, 11:57 PM
Peace????? That's not the word I would have used, LOL!
Bad Kitty
08-17-2008, 12:01 AM
Peace????? That's not the word I would have used, LOL!
Me neither. This is exactly the total opposite.
Adayamo
08-17-2008, 07:35 AM
Nah ... this author get's it.
Peace before the storm! :D
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