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Tague
08-16-2008, 02:09 PM
If Plan A (Hillary) does not happen, then Plan B (Mcain) needs our help

I know we need to focus on Plan A right now, but IMO it is at our own peril if we are not starting to at least think about Plan B.

Since Mcain agreed to public financing, he can only accept direct outside contributions to his POTUS election fund until 8-31-08.

For those who are serious about going with Plan B (if necessary), I would think that should mean that the very instant BO is announced the coronated DNC selectee, we should set the Mcain web site on fire with donations. We need to come up with a formula that lets them know its from the PUMAs.

I say this because it is clear that BO has "bought" himself to where he is right now... we cannot let him "buy" a win in Nov too.

The one and only donation I have made to Mcain was on July 4th for $5.44 (same day I donated more to Hillary's debt reduction drive). I winced when I clicked the JSM donate button.

If BO comes out of Denver as the Dem nominee, then the DNC needs to know that they indeed have accomplished helping me "get over" something. I will have gotten over wincing.

SusanfromPA
08-16-2008, 02:26 PM
Agreed! If Hillary is the nominee obviously a donation to Her campaign the very next day. If Obama is the nominee a donation to Sen. McCain's campaign the very next day.

Tea toaD
08-16-2008, 02:35 PM
I think JM will see an influx of funds to his campaigan if Obama secures this in Denver:cool:

neophyter
08-16-2008, 02:37 PM
I got that newletter and noted the last day to contribute to Mac. Will do if Obama makes that acceptance speech (right after I get sick).

Plan A - Hillary
Plan B = McCain

Suzan
08-16-2008, 02:46 PM
I'll be donating too--TO HILLARY, I HOPE! But McCain, if it comes to that.

Think about how financially lopsided the GE would be with McCain on public financing with an $83 mil cap and Obama raking in that much almost every month!

skc1976
08-16-2008, 03:29 PM
I think that those of us that are able and are going to support McCain over Obama should make a plan to donate during Obama's speech. Let's light up the internet with donations for John McCain at that very moment and speak out AGAINST ELECTING BARACK OBAMA!

BRTL12
08-16-2008, 03:33 PM
Yep, my partner and I are ready to donate to McCain if necessary.

Plan A Senator Clinton
Plan B Senator McCain


Saw 2 Obama bummer, woopsie... bumper, stickers on cars today. The college students are back.

What fun this will be- lots of dialogue potential.

:D

Calico
08-16-2008, 03:34 PM
I think that those of us that are able and are going to support McCain over Obama should make a plan to donate during Obama's speech. Let's light up the internet with donations for John McCain at that very moment and speak out AGAINST ELECTING BARACK OBAMA!

Hopefully, we will be donating to Hillary instead. But, if the worse happens, I think your idea is brilliant! :D

LetsHelpAmerica
08-16-2008, 03:36 PM
I think JM will see an influx of funds to his campaigan if Obama secures this in Denver:cool:

I totally agree with you!!!

foxyladi
08-16-2008, 03:37 PM
If Plan A (Hillary) does not happen, then Plan B (Mcain) needs our help

I know we need to focus on Plan A right now, but IMO it is at our own peril if we are not starting to at least think about Plan B.

Since Mcain agreed to public financing, he can only accept direct outside contributions to his POTUS election fund until 8-31-08.

For those who are serious about going with Plan B (if necessary), I would think that should mean that the very instant BO is announced the coronated DNC selectee, we should set the Mcain web site on fire with donations. We need to come up with a formula that lets them know its from the PUMAs.

I say this because it is clear that BO has "bought" himself to where he is right now... we cannot let him "buy" a win in Nov too.

The one and only donation I have made to Mcain was on July 4th for $5.44 (same day I donated more to Hillary's debt reduction drive). I winced when I clicked the JSM donate button.

If BO comes out of Denver as the Dem nominee, then the DNC needs to know that they indeed have accomplished helping me "get over" something. I will have gotten over wincing.

AGREED

LetsHelpAmerica
08-16-2008, 03:37 PM
Hopefully, we will be donating to Hillary instead. But, if the worse happens, I think your idea is brilliant! :D

Agreed!

santafegal
08-17-2008, 12:04 AM
I think that those of us that are able and are going to support McCain over Obama should make a plan to donate during Obama's speech. Let's light up the internet with donations for John McCain at that very moment and speak out AGAINST ELECTING BARACK OBAMA!

If Hillary is not the one delivering that speech, that is a wonderful idea.

Jen the Michigander
08-17-2008, 01:09 AM
If Hillary is not the one delivering that speech, that is a wonderful idea.

I think so too.

Plan A= Money bomb for Hillary
Plan B= Money bomb for McCain

SugnSpicesmom
08-17-2008, 01:21 AM
Plan A= Money bomb for Hillary
Plan B= Money bomb for McCain

Yep! That's the way it's gotta be! Someone suggested to me that McCain's camp needs to have a special "donation" button for us to donate through. I'm going to pass that onto them.

RE:
08-17-2008, 01:31 AM
Yep! That's the way it's gotta be! Someone suggested to me that McCain's camp needs to have a special "donation" button for us to donate through. I'm going to pass that onto them.

How about if someone starts a 'Selection PAC'? That way we can give money to the PAC and the money can be used through out his campaign for commercials, radio ads, media, etc. The money raised through the PAC cannot be given to him directly...;)

Kaylin
08-17-2008, 06:45 AM
I made a couple of contributions to him since the beginning of July. Considering the race is much closer than people expected, his camp seems to be doing a good job with a lot less money.

After I donated I started getting their fundraising solicitations and they're hoping for between 28-31 million dollars in August to remain competitive. Based on the amounts we've been hearing over the primary season this number sounds do-able, but it's more than McCain's ever raised in a single month (maybe because he gets fewer anonymous donations than Obama??? LOL).

Hillary was the first candidate I ever donated to, so I have no idea if campaigns send different pitches to different donors, but the last letter I received from the McCain camp (just this past week) was titled "Final Push" and asked for a contribution of either 75 or 100 dollars.

there's something I don't get that maybe someone can explain to me. I've heard that because McCain accepted public funding he's got to spend whatever he raises in private donations by the end of the Republican Convention. so how does that work? are they allowed to use the private donations to pre-pay their ad buys, or pre-pay their staffers through November? Or do they hold back payment on some of their pre-convention expenses and use the private donations to pay up with those vendors?

justme819
08-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Well...we better be quick on this one...just heard that BO raised 51 million in July! :eek: :(

Adayamo
08-17-2008, 07:53 AM
I wonder how much money BHO will raise until November.
I freaked out when I heard his statement about public financing.

But as our Hillary showed us, BHO has one very strong weakness: Money can't buy you the election in the states!

Remembering Texas?
Remembering Indiana?
Remembering ...
etc.

Johnf
08-17-2008, 08:04 AM
I think that those of us that are able and are going to support McCain over Obama should make a plan to donate during Obama's speech. Let's light up the internet with donations for John McCain at that very moment and speak out AGAINST ELECTING BARACK OBAMA!

Agreed, if that happens, those are the next steps. Immediately so that the world can see.

Johnf
08-17-2008, 08:28 AM
I wonder how much money BHO will raise until November.
I freaked out when I heard his statement about public financing.

But as our Hillary showed us, BHO has one very strong weakness: Money can't buy you the election in the states!

Remembering Texas?
Remembering Indiana?
Remembering ...
etc.

Currently, Hillary supporters are supporting Hillary which stays that way until the party leader has been chosen. The switch for supporters and money would only come if Obama's camp somehow manages to cheat his way over Hillary. What the DNC does not have power over, is the Republican campaign. The Obama camp can't threaten McCain with "unity" to keep him from questioning Obama and raising issues, or concerns and the Obama campaign will have a tough time crying racism. They have no control over another party or us if it comes down to Obama being chosen. At that point, you would see a mass support for McCain; the majority of HIllary supporters, and Republicans will vote McCain if it comes to that.

We need to announce to everyone what the plans are for it to have impact. This needs to be joint effort.

Plan A, Hillary.
Plan B, if it comes to this, McCain

The DNC need to realize what they have done. Voting for HIllary is not just voting for Hillary the candidate and everything Hillary stands for, her policies, fairness, respect, that Hillary took up and continues to take up the fight for those who need a voice, on the issues, and never quit; it also stands for the respect of people, treating people fairly. Voting Hillary stands for the voices of the voters in Florida, and Michigan who were oppressed and first told by Obama, and the DNC, their votes wouldn't be counted, then just recently, their votes wouldn't count if they voted for anyone other than Obama. Essentially, these people were lied to, manipulated so that their vote would only count for Obama - that they had no choice if they wanted to vote; all done by the Obama camp and DNC so that Obama could win their votes - to give Obama a majority - it means the people of Fl, and Mi don't have a choice, it's a dictatorship, it's a lie.

Voting Hillary means respect of an individual, opposing cheating, media bias, the Obama camp lies and abuse. The next step should it be necessary, is to not vote Obama, to vote McCain and to unite in this vote. A vote for Obama is to support and reward all the lies, deceit, abuse, fraud that Obama engaged in, and stands for. I cannot with conscience vote for Obama - it is:

Hillary first
McCain second

Under no condition would I vote for Obama.

If it comes down to Mi, Fl, voters and Hillary is not involved; those voters do have a choice, not to vote Obama. They can make their voices heard. They need to speak out, that they will never accept abuse the party and the Obama camp directed at them, all for one purpose in mind, victory. Nothing else, no one mattered. With Obama and the DNC, people of America don't matter.

Vote Hillary