View Full Version : (Mar 21, 2008): "Bill Richardson Endorses Obama" (AP & NY Times) - A Grave Mistake!
floorrunner
03-21-2008, 04:48 AM
The AP has announced that Bill Richardson has endorsed Obama. Here is a link to the New York Times article about it.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Obama-Richardson.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
shellyaz
03-21-2008, 05:05 AM
It just breaks my heart.I wonder what Bill Richardson was offered by Obama.
What a foolish and irresponsible endorsement.
But we knew this was coming from his comments prior to March 4th & it is in no way surprising - see this thread (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=666).
And he is only making it now given the desperate state of Obama's campaign.
I don't think it carries any weight at all given that BR had to drop out of the presidential race so quickly as he lacked any significant support.
Next...
no_more_bush
03-21-2008, 05:17 AM
Whatever, if Obama starts rebounding in the polls I think Hillary should begin with the swift boating. Somebody's gonna do it eventually...
There is just so much material that continues to surface. Rev. Wright for 20 years? Proud of my country for the first time? Communist leader's Flag hung in campaign office? Refusal to wear a Lapel pin? Photographed not holding his hand to his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? Even if it's all not true, this is enough to persuade millions of Americans to an opposing candidate.
Patsy
03-21-2008, 05:20 AM
Bill Richardson is an ungrateful and irresponsible man.
But, he won't help O any.
Forget about him.
Paine_Incarnate
03-21-2008, 05:21 AM
when i saw that headline on MSN, the first thing i said was god damnit, with a mix of anger and just disappointment.
WHERE THE HELL IS EDWARDS WITH HIS ENDORSEMENT of Hillary?!!
lucky-ann
03-21-2008, 05:23 AM
uninteresting...won't help him much...latinos are yet in hillary's corner...
when i saw that headline on MSN, the first thing i said was god damnit, with a mix of anger and just disappointment.
PI - I would not worry about it. It's an "endorsement" that carries no weight whatsoever. :rolleyes:
foreigner4hillary
03-21-2008, 05:39 AM
Probably's been offered the VP position. It makes sense. 2 points here:
1. This will help Obama with the hispanic votes
2. As Dave Chappelle puts it, this is insurance. You should watch this...prophetic and funny :)
YouTube - Vice President Santiago
ProHiLL
03-21-2008, 07:47 AM
But we knew this was coming from his comments prior to March 4th & it is in no way surprising - see this thread (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=666).
I thought he was going to come out for Obama after the Texas and Ohio vote but was staved off by Hillary victories. Now with Michigan and Florida all but nixed everyone is calling Obama the presumptive nominee. Is this just an attempt to make us feel like Hillary doesn't have a chance anymore?
xyndau
03-21-2008, 07:55 AM
I would not put much into this endorsement. We all knew it was coming. I'm just glad it was not before the Texas vote, where the endorsement may have actually had an impact. That aside, it is another automatic delegate for Obama. Hopefully the news media today will be more on Obama's "typical white person" statement and Kerry's gaffe of saying Obama's being black is why he would be a good president (I would venture we will being hearing from Gerry Ferraro during the day on Kerry's comment). I don't think Richardson will carry much weight with other automatic delegates.
Bloomer
03-21-2008, 08:32 AM
Wow! Mr. Richardson you too have been sucked in by the Mr. "Bridge the Gap" Obama. and all his FLUFF!How very sad for you! Where is your LOYALTY to those who have trusted you, empowered you and strengthened your resume. I was almost sick when I heard it!
But.......then after thinking, I have to agree, I do not think that this endorsement will carry as much weight as the Obama camp is hoping it will. Between "O's" connections to Wright and now Kerry I think the people will be chewing on these judgement errors for awhile and rightly so. Richarson will be lost in the shuffle today. And "Fluff's" mistakes have only just begun, mark my words, he will have more to sweep off his backdoor step before this is all said and done.
Keep the Faith! Hillary will be the Nominee! Do not forsake her now....she is the comeback kid! :)
Robin Orlowski
03-21-2008, 08:36 AM
He and Hillary were so much more in synch on the issues. And he is a much stronger speaker than Obama could ever dream of being in a million years. I saw the headline and was PRAYING it was another Hispanic Governor.
swannyj
03-21-2008, 08:37 AM
But the way the DNC is shoving him down our throats, I would not be surprised if this is not
part of a last ditch attack. We may see more today. I wanted to leave a comment but did not see a comment button. To endorse him is one thing, but to say he has the judgement to lead and to unite the country is to blatantly say to hell with the American people and what they are saying. If this whole primary is not sexist I don't know what is......and I thought it would come from the Republicans.
Stuart
03-21-2008, 08:44 AM
The AP has announced that Bill Richardson has endorsed Obama. Here is a link to the New York Times article about it.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Obama-Richardson.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Good Kool-Aid huh Mr. Richardson?:(
Way to go Bill, keep dividing the party!
Bloomer
03-21-2008, 08:47 AM
I second that one! Worst part is the REPUBLICANS are getting this all done for them for free. WAKE THE %*#@ UP DNC!
mjoynaples
03-21-2008, 08:50 AM
What a foolish and irresponsible endorsement.
But we knew this was coming from his comments prior to March 4th & it is in no way surprising - see this thread (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=666).
And he is only making it now given the desperate state of Obama's campaign.
I don't think it carries any weight at all given that BR had to drop out of the presidential race so quickly as he lacked any significant support.
Next...
I am shocked is this Richardson and others idea of "colorblind"? do they all want us to drink from the cup of insanity? Obama is NOT GOING TO WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION... no one wants a president whose pastor and church has spent their lifetime endorsing hate... if he were white and attended a church that did that to AA he would have been history and someone needs to say this... we would not tolerated racist and hatred amongst whites toward others how come obama and company think this is okay... PLEASE TELL ME THIS MEANS NOTHING and what do we need to say here ?? how can anyone with intelligence say"this is a leader of a liftime?" this is a stunt to try to keep going because they know they are sinking... ah reason is returning ...disappointment and anger is subsiding... thanks!
luvhillary
03-21-2008, 08:55 AM
This hurts. I'm so disappointed and can't help but think, who's next? It scares me to think about it. Augh! I'm so pissed! :mad: How could Richardson go against the voters in his own state? How could he do this with everything that has been going on with Obama this week? I was thinking that some of BO's superdelegates would end up switching sides. Can someone please give me the positive spin of this? I'm not giving up, but I am getting tired. And then I think of Hillary. What a woman! You know? The uphill fight she fights every single day. The absolute pure crap people throw at her every day! And she still carries on. She is tougher than anyone I know and a huge inspiration.
PuppyDogMom
03-21-2008, 09:01 AM
I know the general consensus is that this endorsement is meaningless in the long run. But it's still disappointing. My guess is that Richardson will show up on the Obama ticket.
Boy, Obama sure has gotten a lot of free press this week. :(
ImmaSlave4U
03-21-2008, 09:02 AM
Disapointing! :(
Bloomer
03-21-2008, 09:06 AM
He can have all the free "BAD JUDGEMENT PRESS" he really doesn't want kind of help, as far as I'm concerned. Free Press is great when the reports are good and you are BRILLIANT! But this kind of Free Press I am sure Mr. "O" would just as soon go away and the quicker the better. I say.....it's about time!
mjoynaples
03-21-2008, 09:11 AM
about not going against the states votes... which I do not think is the point of the superdelegate vote however, now I wonder where Pelosi is on this one... Richardson is doing the exact opposite so I guess that big problem Pelosi and dems are trying to avoid has begun... and none of this will bode well for the democratic party... except maybe something new will emerge... clarity like we do not want a candidate that spews hatred for a particular race or listening to it on a regualar basis and forming his moral compass and discernment faculites in this manner... I am with you on can this get anymore uphill for Hillary... WE MUST REALLY BE DOING WELL for them to throw Richardson or him to volunteer for this mission... can you see these dems gathered together as if it is some kind of act of heroism to support obama because obama blew his chance not last week but 20 YEARS AGO when he didn't walk out of the church and go somewhere else... someone commented on Fox last night(I think) that well "Oprah, went there and she left and thenthe pastor dumped on her too and it seems like Obama didn't want to go because he didn't want to get dumped on by the Pastor so he stayed... this commentator said he made the wrong decision and it will cost him...
The diffcult thing here is to wrap one's mind around the reality that some public officials and the BIASED NEWS MEDIA is trying to still make a legitiamate case to vote for Barack... I feel like the dsyfunction in an abusvie situation is mindblowing and their DENIAL is systemic... SOMEONE NEEDS TO SAY the EMPEROR is NAKED and NEEDS TO LEAVE THE BUILDING... the only solution is for barack to step aside... for the sake of unity and to be the first to step up improved relaltionships with "typical white folks" ...
Stuart
03-21-2008, 09:13 AM
An Edwards endorsement for Hillary would be really SWEET right now!:)
Bloomer
03-21-2008, 09:19 AM
OMG! White and Black Resentments are now the new RACISM! Reported on NBC.....Obama explaining away his "typical White person" comment. Saying it wasn't racist but was referring to the white and blacks resentments for each other.
I don't resent African American people......Do you? I have many good friends who are black. He is really starting to tick me off!!!!It is Obama who keeps this race issue in the forefront. It is sickening!
Stuart
03-21-2008, 09:25 AM
He keeps fanning the flames of racism. Way to go BO! Let's keep on unifying!:rolleyes:
bernie gagliano
03-21-2008, 09:27 AM
The wedding took place in the dark of the night. A very proud moment when loser one weds loser two.
Probably, a deal made last year for Richardson to run to draw votes from Hillary and when that didn't work, he didn't continue the farce.
Then Hillary won his state without a breath of help from Richardson who was out of the race.
Bill Clinton had to babysit him during the superbowl so he wouldn't come out early for the Divider.
There is no end to the treachery in politics.
Now we wait on John Edwards and his wife.
And what is that worth? North Carolina is going to be Hillary's anyway.
We are going to see to that.
Shakespeare couldn't have written the treacheries of this 2008 campaign.
It is all uphill for Hillary, but we will win this for her.
Give Hillary real support on the phones. Pledge an hour of phoning every day.
Work from your home, go to a nearby phone bank. Sacrifice if you want the leader who earned the job.
Put an end to Hate and Division. Put an end to this misery foisted upon our country.
Get off your butt, and do something constructive to elect Hillary.
This weekend sell something you own in your garage or basement and give the money to Hillary.
Join with friends and relatives and get on the phones and call voters in PA and NC and gather support for Hillary.
Bloomer
03-21-2008, 09:30 AM
Poor Grandma! Now she's only a typical white woman with resentments toward black people.
neutralplayer
03-21-2008, 09:30 AM
Richardson's endorsement means nothing now. Should have done it before Texas.
Edit: Doesn't also seem kinda hypocritical of Richardson to endorse a candidate despite the fact NM went to Clinton. I mean he is the person that says superdelegates should follow to will of their states.
Area504
03-21-2008, 09:35 AM
That sucks.
It may have been discussed before, but one would think Mr. Richardson could have shown better judgment after the events of the past 10 days.
Stuart
03-21-2008, 09:37 AM
Richardson's endorsement means nothing now. Should have done it before Texas.
His endorsement may be weak, however his support for BO just keeps the party divided.
This hurts. I'm so disappointed and can't help but think, who's next? It scares me to think about it. Augh! I'm so pissed! :mad: How could Richardson go against the voters in his own state? How could he do this with everything that has been going on with Obama this week? I was thinking that some of BO's superdelegates would end up switching sides. Can someone please give me the positive spin of this? I'm not giving up, but I am getting tired. And then I think of Hillary. What a woman! You know? The uphill fight she fights every single day. The absolute pure crap people throw at her every day! And she still carries on. She is tougher than anyone I know and a huge inspiration.
The key sentence in your post, I think, is "How could Richardson go against the voters in his own state." Maybe his doing so, as governor of NM and superdelegate, sets a precedent for superdel Hill supporters in states that have gone Obama? They could always point to Richardson, who endorsed after and in spite of the outcome of the NM primary.
In any case, I agree with Murray--Richardson is of no consequence. We have to hope that Edwards endorses Hill or stays mum. If he endorses Obama, Edwards can forget about my support in future. And I'll be voting against any local pols who didn't support Hillary.
Area504
03-21-2008, 09:40 AM
Richardson thinks he's helping to unify the Democratic Party, but I won't be hoodwinked. He's really helping John McCain.
Robin Orlowski
03-21-2008, 09:42 AM
That sucks.
It may have been discussed before, but one would think Mr. Richardson could have shown better judgment after the events of the past 10 days.
And I would think with the election results--that he would want to represent the will of his own state. The voters already realize Obama is not qualified to be nominated for the presidency. They want Hillary--and so should Richardson.
Area504
03-21-2008, 09:42 AM
PI - I would not worry about it. It's an "endorsement" that carries no weight whatsoever. :rolleyes:
Murray, I wish I could be as optimistic as you.
I think the weight this endorsement carries is in the message it sends; the perception will be that Obama is not damaged goods as we all would like to think.
neutralplayer
03-21-2008, 09:47 AM
The only people Richardson may influence is Hispanics, and the only race where they will count now is PR.
Luckily, Clinton has strong ties to the island and plus Obama is endorsed by a governor who I hear is deeply unpopular there.
jbohio
03-21-2008, 09:52 AM
I see the "establishment" rally around Obama it just p*#@^* me off more...:mad:
It just looks like all the men going against her.:p
Hmmm.......time to go donate to Hillary again....
Sign me as a typical, ANGRY white woman! LOL!!!!:D
Robin Orlowski
03-21-2008, 09:56 AM
I sent a letter to Richardson which expresses my extreme disappointment. After everything which has happened in the past days, I felt that it was particularly irresponsible of him to endorse Obama....let alone in such 'gushing' terms.
While I am not a NM resident, I believe that at a bare minimum, a candidate for the U.S. presidency should be somebody liking America with coherent debate skills. His own experiences demonstrate that these qualities are important ingredients for success.
And I reminded Richardson (or his office as the case may be) that Obama's health care plan will continue leaving people with pre-existing health conditions uninsured, supposedly also a big concern for this Governor. Obama's campaign is backed by the insurance industry!
ALL4HILLARY
03-21-2008, 10:00 AM
PI - I would not worry about it. It's an "endorsement" that carries no weight whatsoever. :rolleyes:
Kennedy and Kerry endorsement was much bigger. Did nothing.The only thing for me it looks as a bias endorsement. Hillary won NM even with small margin, and he has support of a big latino margin. But probaply Obama sold him with his new unity message. If anybody has Bills email I would like to send him some videos with Obama's preast and Obama lying about it to see who he is endorsing.
ALL4HILLARY
03-21-2008, 10:01 AM
Murray, I wish I could be as optimistic as you.
I think the weight this endorsement carries is in the message it sends; the perception will be that Obama is not damaged goods as we all would like to think.
The main purpose is to get back the Latino votes in PA and other coming states
neutralplayer
03-21-2008, 10:04 AM
Whatever, if Obama starts rebounding in the polls I think Hillary should begin with the swift boating. Somebody's gonna do it eventually...
There is just so much material that continues to surface. Rev. Wright for 20 years? Proud of my country for the first time? Communist leader's Flag hung in campaign office? Refusal to wear a Lapel pin? Photographed not holding his hand to his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? Even if it's all not true, this is enough to persuade millions of Americans to an opposing candidate.
If Hillary starts swift boating, she will lose.
Now if an independent group starts I have no doubt it would send a shockwave among the superdelegates and they'll start thinking "is this just a warm up for the general?"
Veritas
03-21-2008, 10:15 AM
Didn't Richardson along with Dodd run on experience? Can someone put together a video of these guys talking about that and then list-Community Organizer, age 24-28, Part time State Senator and part time lecturer.
(I'm not sure of the dates or ages but roughly) then Hillary's-- it's immense-
Definitely write to him and tell him what you think- there was an offer made for sure- these guys are purely ego driven. Shame on them- In the end it's WE THE PEOPLE that decide- let's keep on working as hard for Hillary as she has for us.
Robin Orlowski
03-21-2008, 10:18 AM
Our side of the spectrum can be too clean in elections. And it might be a lingering reaction to Watergate.
But we have to start weed out ineffective and dangerous candidates in the primary season so that we have candidates who DO perform effectively in the general election. We can't be afraid of being assertive during campaigns.
I hate the GOP issue positions. But I admire the non-illegal tactics during the campaigns. They want tough candidates.
Part of being a tough candidate is yes, telling that your opponent has a shady past.
Everything I've seen from the Obama's themselves leads me to believe that they aren't that thriled about America. So nominating them for the front runner candidates in a job to promote America internationally makes no coherent sense.
We need to make advertisements with Wright's and Michelle's comments. They doccument that this campaign wants to attack the country. There is a reason why it's been VERY light on details.
Charlie Brown
03-21-2008, 11:05 AM
PI - I would not worry about it. It's an "endorsement" that carries no weight whatsoever. :rolleyes:
Are you sure about that???? What about the spanish vote,
samkm
03-21-2008, 11:13 AM
Irresponsible.. and thoughtless.. says that he was always on the other side -- the timing says it all.
Bernie is absolutely right. Thanks Bernie; your words inspired me.
Time to get to hard work.
Charlie Brown
03-21-2008, 11:14 AM
This hurts. I'm so disappointed and can't help but think, who's next? It scares me to think about it. Augh! I'm so pissed! :mad: How could Richardson go against the voters in his own state? How could he do this with everything that has been going on with Obama this week? I was thinking that some of BO's superdelegates would end up switching sides. Can someone please give me the positive spin of this? I'm not giving up, but I am getting tired. And then I think of Hillary. What a woman! You know? The uphill fight she fights every single day. The absolute pure crap people throw at her every day! And she still carries on. She is tougher than anyone I know and a huge inspiration.
I Know it is amazing the fighter she is...Richardson just demosratated he is a member of the BOYS CLUB...this is so disapointing to wake up to this. :(
lanney
03-21-2008, 11:14 AM
I am not worried, it was open he will endrose Obama, because Obama had offered him VP and he is also very close with King of loser gang Kennedy.
This endrosemnt will not help him. Richardson is no where near Bill Clinton.
Korn4hillary
03-21-2008, 11:21 AM
Guys,
Calm Down Don"t Be Too Upset
We Should Be Grateful That He Didn"t Endorse Before Tx And Oh!!! That Would Have Been Disatorous For Us!!!!
I Think He Do Respect Hillary But Then Again He Has To Follow His Heart Or Whatever He Believe.
Here Is My Point, Hillary Proved Time And Time Again That Despite Huge Endorsement On Obama Camp, She Can Win Them!!!!!
Let Us Now Focusing On How To Reach Out To Pa Voters And Get Them Registered According To "march Madness" Announced
By Campaign
Travel To Pa If You Can!!!
We Have Lots Of Work To Do
All The Way To The Hill!
blueskygal
03-21-2008, 11:23 AM
didn't do anything for Obama, i wouldn't think Richardson would either. he's a lightweight.
these people have no values or morals.
Check this link and cheer up:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/20/787719.aspx
Bill Richardson is another lousy sore loser. I'm not surprised.
Disfranchised
03-21-2008, 11:51 AM
The longer this primary season goes on the more we learn about our party's ELDERS! Wow! To me any super delegates endorsing BO at this critical time shows what they truly stand for! And it just becomes more clear to me their agendas are very different than the reasons I joint Democratic party 20 years ago. This is the time to take notes and REMEMBER to support better candidates in future. We can not take our voting privileges for granted. The only way to get rid of these hypocrites is to show them the door comes next election. I have decided to NEVER send DNC a penny but to send my donations direct to people I like to see being in-charge of my party. And not a penny of mine will go to the kind of Kennedy's, Kerry's, Dashcle's, Richardson's,...
Renee in Florida
03-21-2008, 12:12 PM
The beard, the hair-piece. This man is having a mid-life crisis and wants to be part of the starry eyed youth movement.
A sad an extremely ungrateful man who would be nowhere were it not for the Clintons!!
Dendy
03-21-2008, 12:13 PM
One has to be reminded of what happened in Iowa.
He’s not helping anyone here.
A sad an extremely ungrateful man who would be nowhere were it not for the Clintons!!
Same applies to Obama. Hillary Clinton helped him campaign for the US Senate position. I bet she regrets that now that it is obvious what a turncoat Obama is. His allegiance is to one entity only - himself.
david m
03-21-2008, 12:29 PM
as an american citizen whose parents were born in mexico i am not surprised that br endorsed obama. for him to do this indicates exactly where he is coming from. but no way in hell will this change my support of hillary and i am sure that most hispanics feel the same way. br is only about himself and that stuff about bo inspiring people is all nonsense. look at kirk watson here in texas where i live. he said the same thing and it looks like not only does bo copy peoples comments but people who endorse him do the same. as for the person who asked if he was getting anything out of this what do you think?
Renee in Florida
03-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Same applies to Obama. Hillary Clinton helped him campaign for the US Senate position. I bet she regrets that now that it is obvious what a turncoat Obama is. His allegiance is to one entity only - himself.
Turnocoat indeed!! Obama is a political maniac who joined Trinity church to bolster his career in Chicago politics
and now he continues to stay tied to this church to pander to the African American vote.!!
G4Hillary
03-21-2008, 12:35 PM
Richardson has very little clout at this point. I'm glad he didn't endorse before Feb. 5 and Texas. That might have made a difference in the latino support.
But Obama is trying desperately to change the topic from his Pastor so he is throwing everything out there into the news media.
That's all this is.
mooaks
03-21-2008, 12:37 PM
Turnocoat indeed!! Obama is a political maniac who joined Trinity church to bolster his career in Chicago politics
and now he continues to stay tied to this church to pander to the African American vote.!!
Exactly right Renee, No other reason under the sun. Many of the old time politicians in Chicago discovered this the hard way. Obama was assigned the job of helping to pass legislation, which he did, but did not give those people credit for the legislation. Took it all himself. Everyone knows someone like that and it doesn't set too well! Obama kicked many of those people who initially helped him to gain notoriety in the Chicago area under the bus.:mad::mad::mad:
G4Hillary
03-21-2008, 12:38 PM
The only thing Hillary must be cautious of is if Obama names Richardson his VP and a Florida revote is done, then she will have to increase the profiles of her main Latino supporters like Villaraigosa, Huerta, Cisneros, and others.
Cooney
03-21-2008, 12:39 PM
I don't think we need to swift boat, but I do know there is the Hamas story brewing in the blogosphere, it will hit the surface eventually. I am not sure what it is all about, but it may be the straw that breaks the Obama's back.:D
hillary4change
03-21-2008, 01:37 PM
I think it is obvious what bo is doing. He has a handshake deal with br for v.p and the latino vote. It will start coming out.
But ..I don't think it will matter, hears why: I have latinos in my family and lots of latino friends, they are very very loyal to their family's and people that support them. (br aside obviously) Who does that sound like Hillary. She supports ALL races not just ones that will give her an edge in some demographic war. Who does that sound like, bo!!!
Truth and honesty, integrity and loyalty will always win out in the end! Who does that sound like..Hillary!
bo supporters have shown NO loyalty just that they are voting based on the color of his skin.
br looks desperate to me at this point. Again words JUST words will come back to haunt him too. He said the Supers should endorse who their constituancy voted for...loyalty to your base!!!! Not your ambitions Bill!!
Renee in Florida
03-21-2008, 01:41 PM
The only thing Hillary must be cautious of is if Obama names Richardson his VP and a Florida revote is done, then she will have to increase the profiles of her main Latino supporters like Villaraigosa, Huerta, Cisneros, and others.
Huerta, cisneros, and Villaraigosa are all great Hispanic supporter for Hillary. Hillary get them all out this week for exposure to counter any if all fallout from this Richardson endorsement.
Brooke
03-21-2008, 02:26 PM
I know this endorsement won't hold much weight but personally, I'm crushed. I thought for sure he was behind Hillary after everything. Especially after she won NM and has the support of the latinos. This will mean zip here in PA where there isn't much of a hispanic population and even they probably don't know who he is anyway.
But I am fed up. ABSOLUTELY FED UP TO HERE WITH THIS PARTY. I can't take it anymore. I almost threw the remote at the TV this morning, I'm so angry.
You can add him to the list of kool aid drinking, piece of crap traitors along with Lewis, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi and Patrick Murphy.
But I had a lot of admiration and respect for Richardson and thought he'd make a great VP for Hillary.
What did Bill and Hillary do to ANYONE to get the shaft they've gotten?? They go and help these people campaign, fundraise, support and get thrown under the bus over and over again.
It hurts me, as a 16 year Clinton democrat emotionally invested in both of them, it hurts me to no end. And if Obama gets the nomination and MI and FL are disinfranchised, I will be leaving this party and registering as an Independent. I'm sick over this.:(
And who the heck jumps on a sinking ship when it's going down?
P.S.--Murray, I apologize if this post was too angry, I just need to get it out.
tcbwriter
03-21-2008, 02:33 PM
As meaningless as this endorsement is, it still makes me very angry! What a disloyal SOB!
"My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver," Richardson wrote in his e-mail. "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against [presumptive GOP presidential candidate] John McCain in the fall."
Really Bill? So what you're saying is that Hillary should be a quitter like you and just drop out now to pave the way for the guy who people are just beginning to know? Is that because he's a guy??? Hey, I have a thought! Maybe you should have shown an iota of loyalty and just kept your stupid mouth shut??? :mad: Other than mealy-mouthed Dodd, none of the other presidential candidates have apparently felt that overwhelming need to say, "screw you Hillary" or in your case, "screw you too Bill!"
To use an analogy in a way that most of these men can understand - let's say your sports team had won their way to play the superbowl; all the sports analysts were saying they had the deepest team but that the other team had a meaner defense. They are in the third quarter, down by a touchdown (and maybe a field goal too) when suddenly the players walk off the field. :eek:
The announcer explains that the coach and players all agreed that they probably weren't going to win so they might as well quit now. Just how would you react? How would everybody in the sports industry react? Would the "pundits" deem it an honorable move - or would they call them quitters? Would the players be able to hold their heads up knowing that they had decided it was easier to just quit for the good of football then to try and fight for the win? :confused:
As for somebody's comment that this would sway the Hispanic vote - most of the areas having a large Hispanic population have already voted and apparently they have a lot more sense then the Gov. of New Mexico because they voted for Hillary. Maybe the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy, Jr. and the grandson of Cesar Chavez holds more weight with the Hispanic community?
Okay, I'm done venting.
Moving on . . .
Tea toaD
03-21-2008, 03:16 PM
It may be a shot in the arm for Obama but I don't think he will be fully inoculated:mad: More superdelegates may be waiting to see the outcome of N.C. and Indiana. I sure hope Hillary fares well in these states because this will be a major turning point in the election as a whole.
Brooke
03-21-2008, 04:04 PM
"My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver,"
What a load of crap! Reminds me of Al Gore in 1999 "Bill Clinton is my friend and I will always support him" Yeah, we saw how supportive he was in 2000.:rolleyes:
You know what though guys..remember one thing:
KARMA IS A BITCH!!!
It'll come back to haunt them all and Bill and Hillary are better off.
God, I just want to give them a big hug right now. It makes me so sad.
LisaW
03-21-2008, 04:17 PM
I was also very dissappointed when I heard about this early this morning. However, if the Obama campaign thinks they can get the Latino vote by offering Richardson the VP they are wrong.
When I heard the news the first thing I thought was that he must have been bribed with the promise of being Obama's running mate and I think everyone else can see it also, including Latinos.
I know alot of Latinos and they have their own mind. Like someone else posted, Latinos are very loyal and they remember what Hillary has done in the past and they know they can trust her to do what she says she will do in the future. They know that action speaks much louder than words, promises, or paid off endorsements.
Only a fool would endorse Obama at this time, with all his skeletons starting to come out of the closet and the polls showing the non-blacks now leaving him in droves.
ninadhan
03-21-2008, 04:28 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/03/a_review_of_the_pennsylvania_p.html
This article contains great analysis. An effort to convince indepenedents and undecideds to vote for Hillary is critical (there are 14% undecided in PA). Also the article sheds like on where Obama is strong and we need to win these areas for Hillary to get the maximum number of votes and increase her spread in the popular votes.
It is about popular votes, as well as delegates, as well as the electoral map looks for a strong arguement in Denver. We need more of the super delegates to begin announcing their endorsements for Hillary - perhaps one-a-day. I am sure there are a few out there that are leaning for Hillary...
Nina
Dendy
03-21-2008, 04:30 PM
LITZER: All right. So you say you will -- you're about to endorse somebody? You're thinking about endorsing either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? Make the news. Go ahead.
RICHARDSON: Well, no. I'm going to decide very shortly. But the reality is I think there are too many superdelegates. There are over 800. That's the latest count that I saw.
BLITZER: There's almost 800.
RICHARDSON: Who elected these people? I think it's important that those...
BLITZER: Well, you're a superdelegate. You were elected by the people of New Mexico.
RICHARDSON: Well, that's right, but that doesn't mean that you appoint every big fundraiser, you appoint every governor, every member of Congress, every leader that contributes money.
I just think this should be decided by voters. And in my view, there are too many superdelegates. They have too much influence. I would cut down the number.
But I think superdelegates should vote according to who they represent. If somebody's appointed as a superdelegate because they're Hispanic or a governor, they should pay attention to what their voters and their constituencies are saying.
BLITZER: Well, the Democratic caucuses in your state, New Mexico, decided that Hillary Clinton got the most votes. Does that mean you have to go with the Democrats of New Mexico, because she won the caucuses there?
RICHARDSON: Well, she won by 1 percent, you know. It was a very contested race.
BLITZER: Well, you know what they say. A win is a win.
RICHARDSON: No, I know that. But I'm going to decide in the next few days. I just think superdelegates have too much influence. It should be voters in states. It should be delegates according to the proportion of the vote or the candidate.
It shouldn't be, you know, fat cats, big contributors, politicians deciding this. Let the people -- let the Democratic voters -- decide. That's my view.
skc1976
03-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Bill Richardson who? Oh wait...he's the man that couldn't even garner enough momentum to make a difference or a splash in the water. Oh...he's the man that was calling upon Clinton to quit before Texas and Ohio and then held off on his endorsement because the results didn't fall as he thought they would. Oh...he's the man that's really done nothing but think that his endorsement is some magic wand. Again...Bill Richardson who?
Christines
03-21-2008, 09:04 PM
Gov. Bill Richardson decided today to back Obama! Why? Did Obama promises him something?
This is a blow to us but it is not something that can't be overcome! I think he will regret this and find that this is a mistake!
B positive
03-21-2008, 09:12 PM
...This is a blow to us but it is not something that can't be overcome!
No blow for us (pun intended)! Richardson stabbed us in the back on March 2 political shows. The voters saw him and said, "We're not listening to you!":rolleyes:
Brooke
03-21-2008, 09:13 PM
I'm just wondering to all these traitors: IS OBAMA REALLY WORTH IT? I mean, seriously?
Disfranchised
03-21-2008, 09:18 PM
I know this endorsement won't hold much weight but personally, I'm crushed. I thought for sure he was behind Hillary after everything. Especially after she won NM and has the support of the latinos. This will mean zip here in PA where there isn't much of a hispanic population and even they probably don't know who he is anyway.
But I am fed up. ABSOLUTELY FED UP TO HERE WITH THIS PARTY. I can't take it anymore. I almost threw the remote at the TV this morning, I'm so angry.
You can add him to the list of kool aid drinking, piece of crap traitors along with Lewis, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi and Patrick Murphy.
But I had a lot of admiration and respect for Richardson and thought he'd make a great VP for Hillary.
What did Bill and Hillary do to ANYONE to get the shaft they've gotten?? They go and help these people campaign, fundraise, support and get thrown under the bus over and over again.
It hurts me, as a 16 year Clinton democrat emotionally invested in both of them, it hurts me to no end. And if Obama gets the nomination and MI and FL are disinfranchised, I will be leaving this party and registering as an Independent. I'm sick over this.:(
And who the heck jumps on a sinking ship when it's going down?
P.S.--Murray, I apologize if this post was too angry, I just need to get it out.
hmmmmmmmmm a politian going against his constiuents, something the Obama supporters and Richardson himself frown upon.
To me it sounds like someone just sold his soul to have a cabinet position!:eek:
lakerchick4life
03-21-2008, 09:26 PM
WOW Bill Richardson endorses Obama..wake me up when someone of actual VALUE endorses him..He is the governor of New Mexico right..maybe Richardson isn't aware of this, sorry to break the news to him..but HILLARY WON NEW MEXICO
Annie
03-21-2008, 09:36 PM
bill richardson - WHO?:rolleyes:
Oh New Mexico - but didn't Hillary win New Mexico?
HILLARY - YES, WE WILL WIN!
Ijane
03-21-2008, 09:37 PM
Richardson endorsed Obama for one reason: The vice Presidency
I think the reason he took so long to give obama his endorsement was to give Hill a chance to offer him the VP. Hillary couldn't do that though because although Richardson has a lot of good experience, she's thinking about who will help her win the election. That person is not Richardson. Hillary already won New Mexico without Richardson's help so she doesn't need him for that and Hillary has the support of the Latinos and that's not changing so she doesn't need him for that.
Richardson and Bill Clinton like each other. Richardson was Bill's energy guy and he appointed him U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations...and they watched the super bowl together. I'm sure Richardson talked to Bill and Hillary before giving up his endorsement and they were aware of it. I think Richardson would rather have been Hillary's running mate, though.
The only reason this is a problem for Hillary is because Richardson is a super delegate :eek:
Ijane
03-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Awesome music video!! Choked me up!
no_more_bush
03-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Obama will NOT pick him as a vice presidential candidate, the only thing he would potentially offer Obama is the Latino vote.
What really pisses me off is politico writes an article that says Clinton has no chance of winning and we shouldn't consider her a candidate anymore. Now the MSM is reporting and discussing this article giving the perception that choosing Hillary will be a worthless vote.
I am honestly starting to believe that Obama is "THE CHOSEN ONE" by both the democratic leaders and the press.
Brooke
03-21-2008, 09:45 PM
Richardson endorsed Obama for one reason: The vice Presidency
I think the reason he took so long to give obama his endorsement was to give Hill a chance to offer him the VP. Hillary couldn't do that though because although Richardson has a lot of good experience, she's thinking about who will help her win the election. That person is not Richardson. Hillary already won New Mexico without Richardson's help so she doesn't need him for that and Hillary has the support of the Latinos and that's not changing so she doesn't need him for that.
Richardson and Bill Clinton like each other. Richardson was Bill's energy guy and he appointed him U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations...and they watched the super bowl together. I'm sure Richardson talked to Bill and Hillary before giving up his endorsement and they were aware of it. I think Richardson would rather have been Hillary's running mate, though.
The only reason this is a problem for Hillary is because Richardson is a super delegate :eek:
No offense but that's a riduclous assesment. Plus it makes no sense. If he was intending to stay with Hillary, what benefit would it be for him to endorse Obama?
Not to mention that I doubt an Obama-Richardson ticket would win, though it would get the black and latino vote.
Just from a realistic standpoint and political standpoint, this endorsement just makes no sense whatsover. And if he is going to look for a cabinet position or any position in Hillary's adminstration, she's going to tell him what to do with himself. There's no way, not after this. And I can't see him calling Bill tonight and being like "Hey buddy, wanna go get something to eat?"
He's a traitor. No matter how you slice it, he's a traitor. And I will no longer support him. I have a huge issue with loyalty and this gets under my skin.
jgilmore
03-21-2008, 09:51 PM
I am so disappointed in this party and all of the people going against Hillary. If we lose this nomination, I don't want to be a Democrat anymore.
victory
03-21-2008, 09:55 PM
I wouldn't worry about this guy having any influence on people in Puerto Rico. Being of Puerto Rican descent, I honestly didn't know who the hell this guy was until I started reading all the posts. I think this pathetic opportunist's decision to endorse Obama is a knee-jerk reaction to all the recent reporting that Obama has all-but wrapped up this nomination.
Have faith... I still have a gut feeling like things are about to get a lot worse for Obama.:D
Christines
03-21-2008, 09:58 PM
He is the chosen one. Ask Farrakahn, Wright, and Rezko! We can't let any of these supporters of Obama be forgotten. Keep reminding the media and blogs to other states.
Remind the Superdelegates!
Obama want to distract people so they will forget! I have been blogging about these ugly Obama supporters for months! Continue to blog Fox News and Hannity and CNN! Blog the regular news networks!
Don't let them forget! As long as we keep up the blogs ands noise they will carry the news!
Sorry Obama, you can't distract us from the truth!!
RayinAR
03-21-2008, 10:07 PM
when i saw that headline on MSN, the first thing i said was god damnit, with a mix of anger and just disappointment.
WHERE THE HELL IS EDWARDS WITH HIS ENDORSEMENT of Hillary?!!
There is an article if you google John Edwards endorsement news that says he is unlikely to endorse either candidate until one is the nominee.
Ijane
03-21-2008, 10:13 PM
No offense but that's a riduclous assesment. Plus it makes no sense. If he was intending to stay with Hillary, what benefit would it be for him to endorse Obama?
Well, if you actually read what I wrote you'd see that I said he was waiting (and hoping)for a decision from Hillary but she made it clear that she wouldn't be picking him so he went with Obama.
Obama will NOT pick him as a vice presidential candidate, the only thing he would potentially offer Obama is the Latino vote
Richardson might be able to bring a small amount of Latino votes to Obama but his endorsement won't affect the vast majority of Latino voters across the country whose support has always been with Hillary.
I see know common sense reason for Richardson to throw his support behind Obama other then a strong indication from Obama to Richardson that he'd be his running mate. I really believe this! Bill Clinton named Richardson as a good choice for a Hill running mate back in 2007. So if he's good enough for Bill, he's got to be good enough for Obama. I think Obama was desperate for Richardson's super delegate votes.
My prediction is that if Obama doesn't pick Richardson as running mate we'll hear about it as a Democratic party controversy. It will be because Obama was doing to Richardson what he does best, gave him false promises to gain Richardson's super delegate votes.
What super delegate politician would be so stupid to endorse Obama in the midst of such controversy if not for being promised the running mate position?
YesSheCan
03-21-2008, 10:43 PM
It just breaks my heart.I wonder what Bill Richardson was offered by Obama.
I heard on the radio, the Democrat who invented the superdelegates, told Hannity's sub on the radio that Richardson wants to be Secretary of State and he thinks this factored into his decision to go with Obama.
Annie
03-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Probably's been offered the VP position. It makes sense. 2 points here:
1. This will help Obama with the hispanic votes
2. As Dave Chappelle puts it, this is insurance. You should watch this...prophetic and funny :)
YouTube - Vice President Santiago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QullehqLQ78)
Why would it - I think the Hispanic voters are too intelligent to fall for that one.
Annie
03-21-2008, 10:52 PM
He is the chosen one. Ask Farrakahn, Wright, and Rezko! We can't let any of these supporters of Obama be forgotten. Keep reminding the media and blogs to other states.
Remind the Superdelegates!
Obama want to distract people so they will forget! I have been blogging about these ugly Obama supporters for months! Continue to blog Fox News and Hannity and CNN! Blog the regular news networks!
Don't let them forget! As long as we keep up the blogs ands noise they will carry the news!
Sorry Obama, you can't distract us from the truth!!
Just google and you will be very surprised at everything that is already known and not talked about for some unknown reason.
Also - don't forget Raila Odingo - his cousin (paternal) "Raila Odinga has, in his own words, a "close personal friendship" with Barrack Hussein Obama Junior. When Obama went to Kenya in August of 2006, he was hosted by Raila and spoke in praise of him at rallies in Nairobi... Obama’s bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenya government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila’s “stooge.”
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/01/barack-obama-backs-taliban-supporter-in.html
Enjoy :(
Brooke
03-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Well, if you actually read what I wrote you'd see that I said he was waiting (and hoping)for a decision from Hillary but she made it clear that she wouldn't be picking him so he went with Obama.
I did read it and I just misunderstood. Sorry.
Ijane
03-21-2008, 11:18 PM
I heard on the radio, the Democrat who invented the superdelegates, told Hannity's sub on the radio that Richardson wants to be Secretary of State and he thinks this factored into his decision to go with Obama.
That could be...he gave his endorsement to Obama for a promise of a high level position for sure!
The only reason why I doubt Richardson wants to be Secretary of State is because he wants to be President one day. Being VP gives a person a better shot at the job then does Secretay of State.
Only six people who served as Secretary of State went on to become President : Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Van Buren, and Buchanan
While fourteen vice Presidents went on to become President. That number includes Nixon, Johnson, Ford, and George Bush.
Whatever the offer Obama made to him, it had to be pretty high for Richardson to risk his governorship by giving up his votes to the person who lost his state's primary.
Ijane
03-21-2008, 11:20 PM
I did read it and I just misunderstood. Sorry
Thank you.
...and sorry if I sounded snarky in my reply :o
freespirit
03-21-2008, 11:42 PM
It just breaks my heart.I wonder what Bill Richardson was offered by Obama.
I'm guessing a good chance at the VP spot if obama gets the nom. Richardson is making a big mistake, I believe. His comments about Obama starting a "discussion about race" is absurd - more like a division about race. His tactics and the comments of his rabid, racist pastor have set back black-white relations by a few decades.
leahchamblee
03-21-2008, 11:52 PM
[QUOTE=Ijane;21083]/QUOTE]I think it has to do with the rumor that Obama will have a Hispanic vice president
SoCal4Hillary
03-22-2008, 12:02 AM
I think what bothers me the most is that Richardson said Obama "demonstrated his leadership abilities this week with his speech on race" and that Obama is "a once-in-a-lifetime leader...Above all, you will be a president who brings this nation together." Um...hello?! Bring this nation together?! Is he kidding? :confused: After we've all just found out that Obama has been a devout follower of a white-hating, America-hating "preacher" for TWENTY YEARS?! Oh, yeah, he's really going to unite us...
Brooke
03-22-2008, 12:06 AM
Just sent:
Mr. Dean,
I am a 28 year old registered Democrat in PA. I have been proud to be a Democrat for most of my life, until this year. The behavior of this party lately has disgusted me. With all due respect, I'm disappointed with how you've handled the issue of Florida and Michigan. It's obvious you are behind Obama and don't want to seat the delegates for Hillary. I have news for you: If these states are disinfranchised and you give the nomination to Obama who won't stand a chance in the General Election, I will be gladly switching my registration to Independent. I know you've been getting quite a bit of emails like this and frankly, I'm glad. Please don't do this to our party. I don't want to leave but the current situation has left me no choice. Thank you for your time.
God bless America.
Brooke Davis
B positive
03-22-2008, 07:39 PM
Just google and you will be very surprised at everything that is already known and not talked about for some unknown reason.
Also - don't forget Raila Odingo - his cousin (paternal) "Raila Odinga has, in his own words, a "close personal friendship" with Barrack Hussein Obama Junior. When Obama went to Kenya in August of 2006, he was hosted by Raila and spoke in praise of him at rallies in Nairobi... Obama’s bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenya government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila’s “stooge.”
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/01/barack-obama-backs-taliban-supporter-in.html
Enjoy :(
************check out this link********OPINIONS PLEASE!!!**************
hillary4change
03-22-2008, 07:48 PM
I was shocked, but did my duty as an American, Democrat and most of all Hillary supporter. I forwarded it to Fox news of course!!! :p :D Hey, if you can't beat 'em, sort of join 'em!! We can't get the media to vett these stories, then we have to find a way to see what they are and how accurate they may be. However, I think if that is true it is a disgrace!!! I bet it probably is true!!! :eek:
Go Hillary, they are running scared now!!!
blueskygal
03-22-2008, 08:15 PM
We MUST remember that this is a campaign about LIBERTY - OUR LIBERTY! The press and the dem establishment want to take it away from us. To have liberty you must fight for it - Washington lost most of the battles in the Revolution but won the war. it was hard fought. so is ours because we are overthrowing the special interests of all kinds that have invaded and dominated american politics and they are not going with out a fight!
Stay strong and donate and above all CALL. I'm calling PA right now.
Peppermint Patty
03-22-2008, 09:22 PM
Okay, my anger is unabated at this point. But I sent the following:
Dear Gov. Richardson,
As a staunch Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter I cannot believe what a Judas you are for turning your back on Hillary Clinton. NOT that I believe your endorsement means anything at this point. I remind you that NM went to Hillary Clinton. And your own words were that the delegates should vote they way the people voted. Well your people in NM wanted Hillary and yet you have the gall to turn your back on your constituents AND Hillary Clinton. With friends like you, who needs enemies.
You state that that speech on race relations moved you -- really? The speech where Obama inadvertently admitted he lied to a reporter just days before when asked if he knew about Rev. Wright's sermons? That dishonestly doesn't bother you???? His lies about his connections to Rezko? These inspire you to back him? I'm appalled. What is happening to otherwise reasonable people in the DNC? Is this FIX in for Obama because you don't want a WOMAN to run for President??
I hope when Hillary Clinton wins the nomination you hang your backstabbing disloyal head in shame.
And if by some chance BO is the nominee you and the DNC can kiss my "typical white Democratic behind" goodbye as I resign from the Democratic party and vote for McCain.
Happy Easter you Judas! By the way, how many pieces of silver is Obama "paying" you for this endorsement?
B positive
03-22-2008, 09:37 PM
oh, my! YIKES! May I never behave in a way that brings a letter like that in my direction! That was direct, to-the-point and basically what most of us are thinking ! Reading that was like accidentally biting into a hot pepper! :eek:
Imwithhillary
03-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Patrice, I lOVE your email. (And I thought mine was rough! ;) )
All we can do is hope the long list of traitors live to regret their ridiculous choice.
NewHamster
03-22-2008, 10:08 PM
Patrice, tell him how you REALLY feel! :p
Jayling
03-22-2008, 10:12 PM
Patrice, tell him how you REALLY feel! :p
LOL!
You told it like it is, Patrice! Good job :)
Ohio mom
03-22-2008, 10:18 PM
As meaningless as this endorsement is, it still makes me very angry! What a disloyal SOB!
"My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver," Richardson wrote in his e-mail. "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against [presumptive GOP presidential candidate] John McCain in the fall."
Really Bill? So what you're saying is that Hillary should be a quitter like you and just drop out now to pave the way for the guy who people are just beginning to know? Is that because he's a guy??? Hey, I have a thought! Maybe you should have shown an iota of loyalty and just kept your stupid mouth shut??? :mad: Other than mealy-mouthed Dodd, none of the other presidential candidates have apparently felt that overwhelming need to say, "screw you Hillary" or in your case, "screw you too Bill!"
To use an analogy in a way that most of these men can understand - let's say your sports team had won their way to play the superbowl; all the sports analysts were saying they had the deepest team but that the other team had a meaner defense. They are in the third quarter, down by a touchdown (and maybe a field goal too) when suddenly the players walk off the field. :eek:
The announcer explains that the coach and players all agreed that they probably weren't going to win so they might as well quit now. Just how would you react? How would everybody in the sports industry react? Would the "pundits" deem it an honorable move - or would they call them quitters? Would the players be able to hold their heads up knowing that they had decided it was easier to just quit for the good of football then to try and fight for the win? :confused:
As for somebody's comment that this would sway the Hispanic vote - most of the areas having a large Hispanic population have already voted and apparently they have a lot more sense then the Gov. of New Mexico because they voted for Hillary. Maybe the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy, Jr. and the grandson of Cesar Chavez holds more weight with the Hispanic community?
Okay, I'm done venting.
Moving on . . .
YOU ARE FRIGGIN' AWESOME...:D:D:D
Ohio mom
03-22-2008, 10:26 PM
Okay, my anger is unabated at this point. But I sent the following:
Dear Gov. Richardson,
As a staunch Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter I cannot believe what a Judas you are for turning your back on Hillary Clinton. NOT that I believe your endorsement means anything at this point. I remind you that NM went to Hillary Clinton. And your own words were that the delegates should vote they way the people voted. Well your people in NM wanted Hillary and yet you have the gall to turn your back on your constituents AND Hillary Clinton. With friends like you, who needs enemies.
You state that that speech on race relations moved you -- really? The speech where Obama inadvertently admitted he lied to a reporter just days before when asked if he knew about Rev. Wright's sermons? That dishonestly doesn't bother you???? His lies about his connections to Rezko? These inspire you to back him? I'm appalled. What is happening to otherwise reasonable people in the DNC? Is this FIX in for Obama because you don't want a WOMAN to run for President??
I hope when Hillary Clinton wins the nomination you hang your backstabbing disloyal head in shame.
And if by some chance BO is the nominee you and the DNC can kiss my "typical white Democratic behind" goodbye as I resign from the Democratic party and vote for McCain.
Happy Easter you Judas! By the way, how many pieces of silver is Obama "paying" you for this endorsement?
OH YOU GO GIRL!!!!:D
MarkMiller
03-22-2008, 10:29 PM
Just read a quote from Richardson;
"We have a man who's won many, many primaries. Who's won the most primaries and delegates. Who's unifying the party and the country. Senator Clinton has run a great race, I'm not saying she should withdraw that's her decision. But we can't be wounded heading into Denver and the Democratic convention with negative campaigning. And this campaign has gotten too negative," he said.
This very much looks like He and Obama are now joining forces to call for an end to the primaries and for Clinton to drop out now just because Obama has a slight lead in delegates.
With the next primary polls showing Clinton in a good lead in Pennsylvania it appears that not only does Obama not wish for Fl or MI to have a say in this election....he wants to cut out the rest of the country as well....knowing they may well all vote for Hillary in a big way.
Obama is not for true elections.....not if it runs against his winning the nomination. Obama is willing to ignore calls from two states....not just counties within a state...two whole states worth of Americans that the Democratic party has told to "F*** Off". Their right...their RIGHT, is simply being taken away!
American Election credibility has just been given it's death blow. Obama is stealing this election right out from under the noises of America....with the Democratic Party's blessing.
samkm
03-23-2008, 02:29 AM
Another emotional decisionmaker who is unable to articulate the rationale.
Suggest asking him to look at the side-by-side comparison of record of accomplishments. And then start asking more question to scrape below the word hope and ask what is in the hope chest and where is the real blue print... and what is it leading to.
HillBuzzBlogspotCom
03-23-2008, 02:32 AM
One of the lies Obama tells is that Superdelegates should "vote with their constituencies". Richardson, by that logic, should have endorsed Hillary: the same with Kerry, Patrick, and Kennedy of Massachusetts, since Hillary won New Mexico and Massachusetts.
We at HillBuzz wondered what the Superdelegate breakdown would be like if ALL supers voted for the candidate who won their state.
Result: Hillary wins the supers 346-309, based on states that have voted so far.
For the complete results, check this out state by state, with projections for upcoming contests:
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/03/analysis-of-automatic-delegates.html#links
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