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hillaryhoosier
09-06-2008, 07:44 AM
Evidence so far shows that Palin is not drawing a lot of support from voters outside the Republican base.

An ABC News poll released Friday found the selection of Palin makes people likelier to vote for McCain by just 6 percentage points — half the 12-point margin by which Sen. Joe Biden makes them more likely to support Obama.

And as for Clinton supporters, eight in 10 said they'd vote for Obama in November, according to a Gallup Poll conducted last weekend after McCain announced his selection of Palin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_el_pr/from_clinton_to_palin;_ylt=Aj8_8FX1IEK2NE_8ENFBixR h24cA

So 20% of Hillary's voters are still not backing Obama.

happyfeetprod
09-06-2008, 07:47 AM
what that article doesnt mention is, if palin even gets 10 percent of clinton voters.. thats almost 2 million votes.. thats HELL of a lot of poeple..

Paul F. Villarreal
09-06-2008, 07:58 AM
what that article doesnt mention is, if palin even gets 10 percent of clinton voters.. thats almost 2 million votes.. thats HELL of a lot of poeple..

That is correct. McCain/Palin do not need to peel off many Clinton voters at all, just enough in a few key states.

The great thing is, the states where they need to do this are PA, OH, MI and a few others, states which are very likely to be receptive to Palin.

Don't believe the 'gloom and doom' stuff of some of these articles. They are meant to dispirit us, and are written by media hacks who want Obama to win.

Palin's appeal is growing, and she and McCain don't need many people to shift their way to win.

We're in great shape.

G4Hillary
09-06-2008, 09:06 AM
This is all totally nonsense BS!

They had similar polls during the primaries that showed how Obama had started gaining the womens vote. It never happened!

Palin will take a ton load of Hillary voters. That's just the way it is going to be. Everyone wants to see a woman in the White House. It's that simple.

Karen Keefe
09-06-2008, 09:36 AM
Baloney. Yahoo has been in the tank for BO all along.

Masiro
09-06-2008, 09:47 AM
It's a poll people, guaranteed to skew your view to what they want it to.

abw11
09-06-2008, 10:18 AM
Any poll that says "Biden brings more votes to Obama than Palin brings to McCain' is violating basic laws of observation.

When did you ever see such enthusiasm for a VP nominee?
First time for me.

This election has a lot of firsts. Some good, some bad. A bad one is the extent that so much of the media is out and out lying.

Thank God for the internet.

Wyoming Dem
09-06-2008, 10:24 AM
I think every time we see one of these "Clinton voters won't go to McCain/Palin " we need to blog the hell out of it with a link back to this forum. They can then see for themselves that there are a wole lot more of us than they think willing to vote for McCain.

Laura Cereta
09-06-2008, 11:33 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_el_pr/from_clinton_to_palin;_ylt=Aj8_8FX1IEK2NE_8ENFBixR h24cA

So 20% of Hillary's voters are still not backing Obama.

20% of 18 million is 3,600,000-- that could easily be the difference between a win and a loss in a GE.

nette60
09-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Yahoo is in the tank for Obama...as we know from the priimaries.....many of these polls are biased and presented to distort

hillary2008prez
09-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Again OBAMABOTS doing everything they can to discredit a woman and win at any cost

EH
09-06-2008, 11:39 AM
ABC is on the Obama payroll. Any polls coming from them are dubious to say the least.

Joe from WI
09-06-2008, 12:08 PM
ABC, Yahoo, Gallup are all bull shit.

If the numbers tell a dismay story, why is Hillary and Ferraro and that dumb BO have to make so many interviews debunking Palin?

foxyladi
09-06-2008, 12:14 PM
what that article doesnt mention is, if palin even gets 10 percent of clinton voters.. thats almost 2 million votes.. thats HELL of a lot of poeple..

and they could be the ones that WIN the whitehouse

Isis46
09-06-2008, 12:23 PM
Any poll that says "Biden brings more votes to Obama than Palin brings to McCain' is violating basic laws of observation.

When did you ever see such enthusiasm for a VP nominee?
First time for me.

This election has a lot of firsts. Some good, some bad. A bad one is the extent that so much of the media is out and out lying.

Thank God for the internet.

Everyone here brings up several solid points.

For example, if Palin didn't generate excitement, then why is Palin-oriented merchandise flying off the shelves:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjY1YzMwMzA1M2NiZjI3ZTE0OTc1MWNhNmVlZTYwMmM=

And if all of Hillary-supprorters were so enamored of Obama, then why this forum -- and why are at least 20% of the centerist Democrats not inclined to vote Obama? And the poster who mentioned the key 20% are in the battleground states made another excellent point.

The press is totally in the tank for Obama. That is why we need to keep the alternative media informed of any aspect that is critical (e.g., true crowd size for McCain/Palin rallies).

We also want to keep in mind, I think, that the Clintons are honorable people. They will keep their obligations, to the best of their abilities, to the Democratic party. However, I think the Clintons would be better respected in a McCain administration.

ourcountrypac
09-06-2008, 12:32 PM
what that article doesnt mention is, if palin even gets 10 percent of clinton voters.. thats almost 2 million votes.. thats HELL of a lot of poeple..

And it doesn't take into account Americans of all stripes - including Clinton supporters - getting to know Sarah Palin better.

What the media has missed so far, I think, is that Sarah Palin is an intriguing person. She's not what most Americans typically think of when they think of the Republican Party.

She doesn't seem to be emblematic of the Jack Abramoff-style deal-trading and corruption that brought a black eye to my party.

She seems to be a self-starter and able to work with people from different backgrounds and parties.

And so, if the Sarah Palin we've all seen so far is the real deal, and Americans get to see more of her, they may decide that the shallow characterizations made by the media and Obama supporters are not accurate, and we may find her "appeal" to only grow.

I hope she can make it onto the couch of either Oprah or Ellen. I think she'd do just fine based on what we've seen so far. She at least seems to me to be smart, funny, loving and accomplished. And I think Barack Obama's people are petrified by this fact!

freespirit
09-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Don't believe the 'gloom and doom' stuff of some of these articles. They are meant to dispirit us, and are written by media hacks who want Obama to win.

Exactly!

Artists4Hillary
09-06-2008, 12:40 PM
20% is all we need to hurt Obama in the GE

Masiro
09-06-2008, 12:41 PM
I got a new slightly stolen graphic for these kinds of threads.


http://i35.tinypic.com/2vsi69t.jpg

It used to read "Palin Derangement syndrome"

ourcountrypac
09-06-2008, 12:45 PM
This is all totally nonsense BS!

They had similar polls during the primaries that showed how Obama had started gaining the womens vote. It never happened!

Palin will take a ton load of Hillary voters. That's just the way it is going to be. Everyone wants to see a woman in the White House. It's that simple.

Yes, I think you are right. I hope you are right.

I really believe that Sarah Palin was a much better choice than any other female GOPer that I can think of that McCain could have selected.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson was mentioned as a possible pick, but I just don't think she'd engender the same level of excitement as Palin has. Hutchison was someone who traveled within the known political circles and was at home in the Washington establishment.

I sense that even though many of you will have disagreements with Palin on some policies, that one of the things that makes her exciting for you guys and gals as well is that you see Sarah Palin as her own woman. She seems to be a self-motivated person who marches to the beat of her own drum.

I think that stylistically she shares that in common with Hillary Clinton to some extent. I think there's a similar nature in their strong-willed determination that will make Palin at least compelling to many of Senator Clinton's former supporters.