(Sept. 19, 2008): "Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan" (NewsCred)

[G4Hillary]

The Washington Post isn’t the only daily D.C. newspaper to rave about Sandra Bernhard’s anti-Palin ranting. Wednesday’s Washington Examiner joined in, with the headline "Comedienne delivers enraged optimism." Barbara Mackay claimed "in the end, oddly and subtly, Bernhard’s message is positive."

That’s not the impression you’d get from the blog of Theater J, where Bernhard is appearing. It has video of Bernhard calling Palin "Uncle Women," a "turncoat b—h" and a "*****." One complaint on the blog that Bernhard crosses a line of political incorrectness draws a defense from Ari Roth of Theater J that really drops the curtain on how coarse this show is:

In fact, the play wears its politically VERY correct heart on its sleeve with its indictment of America as "A Man’s World, It’s a White Man’s World, It’s a F–ked Up White Man’s Racist World" and can only be suggested to be racist in its content if one is hell-bent on protecting White Folk for Sandra’s blistering indictment.When Sandra warns Sarah Palin not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers, she’s being provocative, combative, humorous, and yes, let’s allow, disgusting.

The fact that the show has a few riffs like this does not — to my mind — make it a "disgusting show." there’s too much beauty, variety, vitality, and intelligence to label the entire show as "disgusting." I’ll agree with you that we produced this show because we did find it to be edgy — because we wanted to give right wing conservative Jews a good run for their money by being on the receiving end of some blistering indictments from Sandra.Does it go over the edge sometimes? On the gang-rape joke, yes. Sure. Not much else. It goes over the edge and then comes right back to the cutting edge. [Profanity editing is mine.]

Forgive me if gang-rape jokes don't greet my ears as oddly and subtly positive, as the Examiner suggests, and forgive me if gang-rape jokes aren't "a rotating sprinkler that a spectator washes in most happily," like the Washington Post insists.

Roth insisted to the complainer that the D.C. Jewish Community Center is loving their Bernhard show, and partied with Bernhard on opening night. They’re in tune with her right-bashing rage:

We’re proud of our producing -- proud of Sandra’s sense of timing -- taking the fight out to the house and to the street beyond, channeling so much of our rage and frustration at the bizarre recent twists of fortune since Karl Rove trotted out Sarah Palin for John McCain to briefly meet and then get in bed with.Sandra’s face is hanging 10 feet tall in a banner over the DCJCC steps and we’re proud that she’s a new emblem and ambassador for our theater and our center. She’s not the only one who represents us. But her large heart, her generous talent, and her big mouth are all a big part of who we are.

"Who we are" at this theater clearly isn't someone who's interesting in presenting anything other than rage. The video itself, presented like a commercial for the show, explains who the show is intended to please. The average person probably wouldn’t find it the least bit funny. But if you really, really hate Sarah Palin or Christian conservatives, this show is for you. Here’s some of what she says in the promo:

Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s--t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b---h! Don’t you f--kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b---h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You ***** in your f--kin' cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls--t moment.

Is it too broad an interpretation to suggest that when Bernhard attacks Palin's "new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t," she means the New Testament? It sounds like she's telling the Christian to stay away from "her" Old Testament, as if Christians don't have an Old Testament in their Bible. It's quite clear that the D.C. Jewish Community Center is not attempting an interfaith dialogue with this rantfest.
http://newscred.com/article/show/title/sandra-bernhard-palin-would-be-gang-raped-by-blacks-in-manhattan-48d394f7c4979

[Avalon]

Could these people be any more wicked and hateful? :mad:

[HumbleDave]

Sandra Bernhard has gone beyond simply being revolting to a point well into the realm of vulgar. These are the kind of people embracing Obama. That says it all in my opinion.

[Horizon]

What could one expect from her? She hangs with Madonna and Co.

My message to her;It's only cool to vote for the Black Man if he's the RIGHT Black Man!
I seriously think a lot of these celebs guzzling the Haterade are doing so because the feel it is the politically correct thing to do.To be able to say,"I'm not racist,I voted for Obama,the Black Man.I am therefore,cool"!!!
They make me sick.
Cosby isn't even voting for him,and I doubt if Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice are either.

[SugnSpicesmom]

What in the living hell is going on in this world? When did this kind of stuff become acceptable? To call Palin these kinds of names is beyond disgusting - it is just outright hate.

[DC_Mark]

Rome

[hillary1]

http://newscred.com/article/show/title/sandra-bernhard-palin-would-be-gang-raped-by-blacks-in-manhattan-48d394f7c4979

let's see the last civil war was in 1861, north vs south, now we may be seeing the second, blacks vs whites, this is what obama has created with his racist lies, this is what the democratic party has created, someone who will divide this country more than any red or blue state could, when the likes of a bernhard can deliver from her own lips the vulguarities against a women who has tried to do nothing but good for her own constituents, bernhard has literally thrown civil rights back to cave man days

VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN - they are not racist

[Bacio83]

Ummmm...... Sandra Bernhard..... *added to shit list*

I'm sorry how is it funny to call a woman a bitch that many times? Feminist, womanist my arse.

And could she have been more racist? Her big black brothers are going to gang rape Sarah...... riiiiight that's not racial profiling at all. Hey Sandra... it's been what 15 years since Rosanne has been off the air? Welcome to hasbeen land

[gaziza]

Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s--t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b---h! Don’t you f--kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b---h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You ***** in your f--kin' cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls--t moment.

It is sort of funny that this rambling mess makes no sense (I did laugh when I read "Uncle Women" - but because it was ridiculous). The only thing I got out of it is that she doesn't like Sarah Palin and is an eyewear snob.

This reminds me a bit of the "Michael Richards Incident," where he went off on a crazed rant, repeatedly screaming racial slurs at a heckler. A lot of comedians at the time said things like "You know, you can use this sort of material as a comedian, you can walk that line, push those boundaries, but... it has to be funny, there has to be a joke in there somewhere, there must be a point. You can't just yell hateful things with a look of disgust on your face, that is not comedy."

Anyways, it seems like Bernhard has slipped into Richards territory.

[freethinker]

I hope the theater has a vomitorium.

A vomitorium (plural: vomitoria) is a passage situated below or behind a tier of seats in an amphitheatre, through which crowds can "spew out" at the end of a performance.

[samkm]

Invoking terrorist activities should be treated just like terrorism. She is invoking terrorist activity within the country.

[foxyladi]

What in the living hell is going on in this world? When did this kind of stuff become acceptable? To call Palin these kinds of names is beyond disgusting - it is just outright hate.

sad sad sad!!!!!!!

[Linda C]

Rape is a tool of violence to subjugate women period. There is no such thing as a politically correct "gang rape" to promote the virtues of liberalism.

[greenleaf]

I'm disgusted, thanks Obama supporters.

[kathleen]

No words to describe this type of speech. Disgusting doesn't fit. Vulgar is too tame. Is this woman posessed? :confused:

[ModerateRepublican]

Rome
Sadly I think you may be right. :mad:

[Ijane]

Roth insisted to the complainer that the D.C. Jewish Community Center is loving their Bernhard show, and partied with Bernhard on opening night. They’re in tune with her right-bashing rage:

Right...and after Obama is elected and Israel, which is about the size of the state of Vermont, gets blasted into the sea, can we show re-runs of the Bernhard show to the same D.C Jewish community?

[Vici57]

I now believe that most of the actor that support Obama are so far to the left that it is scary. Most of these people are just robots that says their lines, makes millions of dollars and then trashes the American way of life. This election is leaving a bad feeling within the United States. We can damn sure thank OBAMA AND THUGS for all of this negative crap. He must not win in November no matter what. It will be the in of American values if he does!

[Linda C]

Rape is a tool of violence to subjugate women period. There is no such thing as a politically correct "gang rape" to promote the virtues of liberalism.

Dd I just get my post edited?

[writerchick]

Ugh, I will be the lone voice of defense because I work in the creative community - as much as reading what Bernhard says in a blog on the internet seems shocking, it is totally unsurprising to me. This is the general tone of her one person shows (I haven't seen this one, but I've seen "Without You I'm Nothing" and another one as well). She always goes after current celebrities and makes fun of them in a shocking edgy way, in the early nineties she made fun of Prince, Jodie Foster, Warren Beatty, Madonna, etc. In her last show (which I didn't see) this is the ending:

In Bernhard's 2006 Off-Broadway show Everything Bad and Beautiful, she concludes by showing the final footage from this film: an African American woman writing "F*ck Sandra Bernhard" on a tablecloth in lipstick.

Anyway, art is art and her show is her show. Artists expressing their opinion (bad or good) in a show doesn't bother me in the least. If you don't like it, don't go. Artists expressing their opinion on CNN or in a taped interview for the public (ala Matt Damon) does bother me as they're a medium intended for another purpose to express their political views.

[ragdoll]

Well, wasn't that another disgusting peek at the type of people that we are dealing with. Why do I feel like everytime I read one of these articles, I'm boarding some kind of insane horror ride? This is the second article that I have read this morning where a woman has said things about Palin that makes me want to puke. What has happened to humanity? People really get a kick out of this kind of humor? I can just see her lining up to push the button on a gas chamber or laughing while an innocent person is being brutaly murdered in public view. If this kind of hatred was leveled at Obama, it would be making headlines and the persons career would be over. Sandra Bernhard should be seen as an embarressment as a woman. Another step backwords for our gender!

[Laura Cereta]

What American society has shown, and continues to show, not just ourselves, but the rest of the world, as to how far we really HAVEN'T come on the issue of gender discrimination is truly sad. Despicable comments are being highlighted daily. Gang rape is not a joke. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs their head examined. These people are not educated or enlightened; they are the epitome of ignorance.

[Avalon]

What American society has shown, and continues to show, not just ourselves, but the rest of the world, as to how far we really HAVEN'T come on the issue of gender discrimination is truly sad. Despicable comments are being highlighted daily. Gang rape is not a joke. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs their head examined. These people are not educated or enlightened; they are the epitome of ignorance.

I so agree, being a comic doesn't let these people with their hateful and wicked dialogue off the hook. There is nothing funny about rape period, and how anyone could think that this is Ok to wish on someone is beyond me.:mad:

[Merrick98]

I agree with writer chick art is art.. It not fact... I think palin would have to offend the black community more than obama to say the raw rape not funny joke. Marget cho makes more sense where she wants to do a person she wouldnt talk to. Sex, not rape is funny to me.

[Sundy]

So, is she saying that if you don't agree with black men that they'll rape you? :confused: Sandra sounds pretty racist to me.

[Ijane]

Sarah Bernhard's method of making a profit is no different then many rap artists. I would hardly classify this as art.

[kathleen]

What American society has shown, and continues to show, not just ourselves, but the rest of the world, as to how far we really HAVEN'T come on the issue of gender discrimination is truly sad. Despicable comments are being highlighted daily. Gang rape is not a joke. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs their head examined. These people are not educated or enlightened; they are the epitome of ignorance.

I agree. And I don't want to hear another word about Don Imus and his comedy routine since hearing this..and a host of other vile things. Where are the 'outrage police'? Sharpton doesn't find this inappropriate? Why are they not calling for boycotts and demonstrations for these far worse slurs?

[Andy_Licious]

With friends like this, BO doesn't need any enemies. :p

[mesofreee]

Ugh, I will be the lone voice of defense because I work in the creative community - as much as reading what Bernhard says in a blog on the internet seems shocking, it is totally unsurprising to me. This is the general tone of her one person shows (I haven't seen this one, but I've seen "Without You I'm Nothing" and another one as well). She always goes after current celebrities and makes fun of them in a shocking edgy way, in the early nineties she made fun of Prince, Jodie Foster, Warren Beatty, Madonna, etc. In her last show (which I didn't see) this is the ending:



Anyway, art is art and her show is her show. Artists expressing their opinion (bad or good) in a show doesn't bother me in the least. If you don't like it, don't go. Artists expressing their opinion on CNN or in a taped interview for the public (ala Matt Damon) does bother me as they're a medium intended for another purpose to express their political views.



I would classify her 'art' as expressionism (if it werent' for the fact that she's been doing over 20 years, by now it's a worn out gimmick). I think the fools who flew airplanes into the WTC towers were also trying to 'express' themselves, is that also art?

Spewing bile onto crouds of onlookers -art-. How very creative! What talent!

Change the scene from nightclub to streetcorner, her clothing to rags, and you have a more realistic venue for this nonsense.

[DemKR]

Hollywood hearts Obambi

[Christines]

Sandra and Randi Rhodes make a good pair!

[SeattleDem]

Gee...wonder what would have happened if Bernhard would have gone after the chosen one with the same intensity and in a racist vein? ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE!

Perhaps Ms. Bernard should remember that Sarah Palin can field dress a 1300 lb. animal before she suggests that she would be "gang-raped" by ANYONE!

[Kbentleyis]

It's things like this I wish Barbara Striesand, Matt Damon, and other celebrities who support BHO would receive a copy of this. Showing what kind of people they support. Where have all the morales of this nation gone? Do these people even know of the word integrity?

Perhaps it's people like this and who write this type of trash that America is hated by so many other countries.

[writerchick]

Gee...wonder what would have happened if Bernhard would have gone after the chosen one with the same intensity and in a racist vein?

She has gone after AAs. Please see the quote from my above post. If it was specifically directed at Obama, I agree there might be an uproar as well. But it still would be her right to go after him in a piece of theater.

I would classify her 'art' as expressionism (if it werent' for the fact that she's been doing over 20 years, by now it's a worn out gimmick). I think the fools who flew airplanes into the WTC towers were also trying to 'express' themselves, is that also art?


I don't think you can compare a piece of theater to terrorists, LOL.

Bernhard isn't forcing anyone to see her show. She has a right to put whatever she wants into it. Obviously, most here find it offensive, but people find a lot of art offensive - Mapplethorpe, Marilyn Manson, Salmon Rushdie, etc. If you don't like it, don't look at the painting, listen to the record or read the book.

Again, I'm not saying I personally think it's funny or arguing that it's not offensive, I'm just not into censorship. :)

[freethinker]

It is sort of funny that this rambling mess makes no sense (I did laugh when I read "Uncle Women" - but because it was ridiculous). The only thing I got out of it is that she doesn't like Sarah Palin and is an eyewear snob.

This reminds me a bit of the "Michael Richards Incident," where he went off on a crazed rant, repeatedly screaming racial slurs at a heckler. A lot of comedians at the time said things like "You know, you can use this sort of material as a comedian, you can walk that line, push those boundaries, but... it has to be funny, there has to be a joke in there somewhere, there must be a point. You can't just yell hateful things with a look of disgust on your face, that is not comedy."

Anyways, it seems like Bernhard has slipped into Richards territory.

yup.

"Lynch 'em!"

Har Har.

I don't remember too many comedians stepping up to support that. Or too many AA's getting the joke. Or other people for that matter.

Because it wasn't said in an ironic way. It wasn't a castigating social commentary. It was a personal, revealing, serious, "Git um!"

So now we're on to :"gang rape 'er!"

What's next?

"Drag 'em from the back of yer car!"

I'm less bothered by the comedians than I am by the size of the audience cheering.

Rome, indeed.

[Den2006]

She's nothing more than female version of Andrew Dice Clay and these people have the nerve for call us white trash. Somehow I don't think this is what women mean by you've come a long way baby. Gang Rape, and this woman wants to identify herself as a feminist? Not funny Sandra not funny at all. The self esposed elite and the extreme lowest rung of the ladder are behind Obama and both are exposing themselves for the creatures they are. These people are without a soul.

[writerchick]

I'm less bothered by the comedians than I am by the size of the audience cheering.


Agreed. THAT is the most bothersome thing.

[patrioticlady]

Unfortunately, I have seen this type of hateful talk many times and elections before. Maybe many people here are having their eyes opened to what has been going on for a very long time. You see as a Republican, I have experienced this type of nasty, disgusting talk......why?....b/c someone felt entitled to demean and belittle someone else b/c they thought/believed differently from them. This isn't new folks, it is just that perhaps the behavior is getting worse than before. Very sad to think of how low and uncivil our society has become.

[thebword]

So lets get this right, to be a progressive Democrat liberal:

You most tear down any female politician who is Republican, because only Democrats can promote the cause of women.

You have to believe all gang rapes are perpetrated by black men, while telling everyone else they're racist if they don't vote for the black candidate.

You have to believe religion can have nothing to do with politics, since clearly separation of Church and State means NO FAITH ALLOWED in a leader, while claiming hold of 1/2 of the Bible as yours.

Sandra (whatever her name is) is a Sanctimonious Hypocrite. People like this just drive away voters, I hope she keeps on spewing her vile mouth off McCain/Palin will win in a Landslide.

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[blueskygal]

Sandra Bernhard is one of the ugliest people on the celebrity stage. I don't mean her looks - but her insides - and you can see it on her face.

People like her feel very threatened by someone like Sarah whose goodness shines out from within. She would look that way even if she didn't have beauty queen looks.

Bernhard recognizes what she isn't when she looks at Sarah and tries to destroy it because she can't stand to look in the mirror and see what she really is.

The comments that have been made against Sarah are beyond unacceptable.

If these kind of comments were made towards a black person you would have race riots in this country.

[ragdoll]

I don't want to argue and I don't want to offend anyone, but I do have a question. I am a nobody outside my family and friends. I sing, write poetry, draw, paint murals, love art shows , musicals, some operas, most music, remodel houses,etc. You can say that I dabble in the arts. But I do think that there are some things that should not be qualified as art. I'm not saying Sandra should be censored, but where is the line drawn in the world of art and free expression? Is it still free expression when they talk that way about people we care about and love? What if she said these things about Hillary, Princess Dianna, Mother Theresa or many other women in the public eye? When do rational people stop supporting this kind of art? Who really pays the price for the demeaning of another woman?

I would never give money to the art world, because I feel that art should be beautiful and bring about wonderful feelings. This is not! It is pure filth! I'm sorry, but I think this verbal hate is only one step away from violent abuse that feeds people with already twisted minds. My free expressive opinion!

[CountryFirst]

Celebrity rot

[Bad Kitty]

:eek:

*faint*

What the hell is wrong with these people?!?! :mad:

[efemall]

This is the far left's idea of unity and tolerance folks... ive seen it coming for a long time i just never new it was as ugly as this, and this is why i have more in common with moderate republicans than i do with this fringe, i dare to even say leftists...Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more subdued and tolerant than these wackos.

[Bad Kitty]

This is the far left's idea of unity and tolerance folks... ive seen it coming for a long time i just never new it was as ugly as this, and this is why i have more in common with moderate republicans than i do with this fringe, i dare to even say leftists...Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more subdued and tolerant than these wackos.

Compared to this filth, he looks like an angel.

[Justmy.02]

Sorry, but I don't see the necessity for this type of 'art.' Hate is hate no matter where it's found. This world doesn't need more hate.

And I agree...where's the uproar, where's the outrage. We would certainly hear it if this type of diatribe was aimed at BO or even MO.

[mesofreee]

I don't think you can compare a piece of theater to terrorists, LOL.

Again, I'm not saying I personally think it's funny or arguing that it's not offensive, I'm just not into censorship. :)

I think you can compare the two because they both fit into the same category of expression of personal opinion. Just because she was standing in a theater doesn't make it art, it's closer to propaganda.

BTW no one is censoring her (obviously) so I don't know why you are saying this. The people here commenting in disgust of her rants have a voice too. Telling them not to watch is a censorship of sorts, like saying 'if you don't like it don't watch it but shut up (implied)'.

[eviee]

Never thought Sandra as funny, so I don't listen to her.

[Evergreen]

I don't want to argue and I don't want to offend anyone, but I do have a question. I am a nobody outside my family and friends. I sing, write poetry, draw, paint murals, love art shows , musicals, some operas, most music, remodel houses,etc. You can say that I dabble in the arts. But I do think that there are some things that should not be qualified as art. I'm not saying Sandra should be censored, but where is the line drawn in the world of art and free expression? Is it still free expression when they talk that way about people we care about and love? What if she said these things about Hillary, Princess Dianna, Mother Theresa or many other women in the public eye? When do rational people stop supporting this kind of art? Who really pays the price for the demeaning of another woman?

I would never give money to the art world, because I feel that art should be beautiful and bring about wonderful feelings. This is not! It is pure filth! I'm sorry, but I think this verbal hate is only one step away from violent abuse that feeds people with already twisted minds. My free expressive opinion!
ITA.

[Horizon]

In defense of writerchick: I don't think she was telling us not to comment on our opinions or how we feel about Bernhards vile comments.I think she was reminding us about free speech and this,and Cho's vile comments,do fall under the umbrella of free speech.We have all laughed and had a good time at Obama,and his wife's expense.Maybe this was far grosser than what we say about them,but it is kind of hypocritical to call for them to shut up.I agree that if you don't like it,don't watch it,listen to it,or read it.I personally find Marilyn Manson to be vile and disgusting,but I would never tell you not to listen to him.I find Toby Keith to be a complete whackjob,listen away if you so choose.
We should not be attacking writerchick for reminding us what free speech entails.As an artist herself,she will see things differently.She works in an industry where this kind of expression is commonplace.You listen,or you don't.
Her opinion is as valid as anyones'

[Still-a-Republican]

YouTube - Sandra Bernhard dishes Sarah Palin at Theater J

[VANITY4HILLARY]

What could one expect from her? She hangs with Madonna and Co.



Madonna and Sandra are not friends anymore since madonna stole sandra Bernhard lover Ingrid casares back in 1992

[writerchick]

madonna stole sandra Bernhard lover Ingrid casares back in 1992 I remember that! Right around the time of Madonna's "Sex" book. :p:p:D

[scully931]

Time and time again the people that support Obama have shown themselves to be lowclass and thuggish. All you have to do is look at how the people who support him act to see what kind of presidency he's going to have.

I used to teach acting at a place where the owner was catty, talked badly about the students, talked about me behind my back, etc. and the students she attracted were like that too. After two years I opened my own place and we have absolutely none of that. Leaders attract their own kind.

[EsmeraldaB]

Just because she was standing in a theater doesn't make it art, it's closer to propaganda.

You're so right, mesofreee. If this is "art," I now have a totally different outlook about supporting the arts. Thanks Sarah and Randi, I will now work against supporting the arts in the future. What you and your type spew is pure rot. It rots the heart and it rots the mind, and puts ugliness to action in the mindless who feed off it.

Who can we complain to about this trash? It's similar in nature to the rot that came from the media about Hillary, and continues today.

[Avalon]

Sorry, but I don't see the necessity for this type of 'art.' Hate is hate no matter where it's found. This world doesn't need more hate.

And I agree...where's the uproar, where's the outrage. We would certainly hear it if this type of diatribe was aimed at BO or even MO.

Absolutely and hate, as one can tell from a the crowd reaction, brings out the dark side lurking in those who might just have a tiny bit of prejudice. If one looks at our society, does one really think spewing hate is helping make this world a better place?:mad: This isn't art, this is sickness inside the dark recesses of her mind.

[Deepel]

I know it's not every woman, but geez! The sick and hate filled comments of these type of women have taken the 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling and just cemented it in for good.

Is WUMA a word because Women Unity My _ _ S is starting to sound like a reality.

[velocet]

Who's advocating censorship? It's SB's right to perform in such a way. It is also the right of the rest to either cheer or shout back.

If SB is spreading untruth, even in the thin guise of art, should it remain unchallenged?



On another tip, at the risk of becoming repetitive, this kind of patented obot fringe bilge need not be directly associated with "libs" or "democrats." I'm saying that as a repub.

There's no way I'm throwing my political rivals under THAT f*cking bus.





velocet

[Horizon]

I know it's not every woman, but geez! The sick and hate filled comments of these type of women have taken the 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling and just cemented it in for good.

Is WUMA a word because Women Unity My _ _ S is starting to sound like a reality.

WUMA and PUMA it is!!

[VANITY4HILLARY]

If SB is spreading untruth, even in the thin guise of art, should it remain unchallenged?




Well she is not spreadng a untruth since blk men account for the majority of rape on white women.Who would have thought the liberal media would make it seem asif white men rape blk women in higher numbers.But I am sure they will not state that fact in the media.

[LetsHelpAmerica]

I hope the theater has a vomitorium.

I feel like I need one right about now!
This is the most revolting, disgusting, violent, vulgar nonsense I've heard in some time from an Obama supporter. These people need to move to an-other country! I cannot relate to this absolute trash!
Maybe they can raise money and buy some real estate in Africa, Asia, Europe or where ever and form their own country and appoint The Fraud as their king. I am sick of these leftest wingnuts! They are DANGEROUS!
These kind of comments make me want to put 50 McCain/Palin lawn signs up today!

[BooskerD]

Sandra Bernhard has gone beyond simply being revolting to a point well into the realm of vulgar. These are the kind of people embracing Obama. That says it all in my opinion.

Yes. Bernhard has always been disgusting, but this time she's reached new depths. I see equally disgusting commentary about Palin in my local online "liberal" forum. Their true colors have been showing for quite some time.

[VANITY4HILLARY]

Okay lets try this again.Can you even imagine a White woman comedian making a joke about a blk being gang-raped by whites? She would be arrested on the spot and her bail would be at least a million dollars, if she made it to jail. The Al Sharpton's would be screaming for her blood!
I do not have my television on.So where are the white groups on this ?Oh they don't have any.
lawd this is some sick shyt

[mcgowan.swan]

musician here. sandra bernhardt has never been funny to me, so i do not watch her or follow her work. i agree this is vile, even for a comedienne, but someone is paying her for this show, so it is their money and their choice. i have to agree that what is scary is that there is an audience to enjoy and pay for this trash.

i also believe that should she have said the same about obama or michelle, there should be no outrage there either, since there is none on women's behalf. it cannot be art for one, and abuse and racism for the other.

so, if sandra is free to trash bo as well as palin, but chooses not to, then all is well. however, if she chooses to do the same to obama and it is treated as racism, then it is no longer art and both trashes become hate speech and public domain for censoring.

the line is very fine. ask me as an entertainer and ex-comedienne. i know personally. to be funny is an art, and if the funny ingredient is missing, then you are just an ass. lol :):):)

[eviee]

I know this may be on a different level, but you do know that the British, just yesterday, allowed the door to open for Sharia law into their courts? It will not include arranged marriages, beheadings, cutting off of the hands, etc. thay said, but will give the Muslims some say in their own religious laws.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1687576.ece


OMG, people have left their countries for America because of such laws. As for Britain, I thought it be among the last few places to alow such laws.

[blueskygal]

what's missing in the art, politics, journalism of our time is a sense of decorum and decency - a sort of self-restraint - and a basic respect for people.

personal attack has become acceptable in our society and is "legitimized" by the media. the stuff that passes for journalism these days used to be called "yellow journalism" years ago and was relugated to the tabloids.

unfortunately personal attack and lies sell. people want to read the "dirt."

i was glad to see Sarah refute the outrageous things that were said against her in her interview with fox.

in the last 30 years we have thrown out the "social graces" as being quaint, uncool, and "old fashioned" and this is what has replaced it.

[mcgowan.swan]

oops, wrong quote...here's the right one!



Vanity, you're so crazy! :eek::D Don't make me get off my chair and come over there...read this and educate yourself :rolleyes:

well, if the media were jewish hillary would be the nominee. lol go hillary. but dont worry vanity, i still love ya' :D:D

[peachick]

She has to rely on a trashy street mouth to get ANYONE to even pay attention to her. There is no way you can convince me that that profanity and violence toward woman is creative or artistic. More like LACK of creativity. But then nothing that obots think surprises me anymore. obama sure brings out the very WORST in this country and seems to attract the lowest types. Maybe he "is the one"...........the anti-christ. He certainly has not shown that he is a uniter. :eek::eek::eek:

[NBM]

I'll try to fit into what's being said here... I understand what writerchick is saying, and I appreciate that she pointed it out. I too am part of the "art community", or rather I'm a music composer and graphic artist - my stuff is published internationally.

The definition of art today is SO broad, it now includes any clever form of personal expression. It's art as long as it produces some reaction, and the more controversy the better, etc.

But the purpose of art to me is not just to offer a new perspective and challenge norms, but to also increase awareness. It should deepen human insight and understanding, not reduce it. It should enlighten us. (Yes, I'm probably old fashioned that way.)

While Sarah Bernhard's "art" offers a new perspective, it appeals to the lowest human instincts, so it doesn't qualify as art to me. It's clever, but it's just freedom of speech gone wild, IMO. Under the guise of art, you can get away with anything these days.

As an antidote to her nasty, artistic tirade, here's a clip where Obama was heckled today by "Blacks Against Obama".

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html

[Ijane]

I'll try to fit into what's being said here... I understand what writerchick is saying, and I appreciate that she pointed it out. I too am part of the "art community", or rather I'm a music composer and graphic artist - my stuff is published internationally.

The definition of art today is SO broad, it now includes any clever form of personal expression. It's art as long as it produces some reaction, and the more controversy the better, etc.

But the purpose of art to me is not just to offer a new perspective and challenge norms, but to also increase awareness. It should deepen human insight and understanding, not reduce it. It should enlighten us. (Yes, I'm probably old fashioned that way.)

While Sarah Bernhard's "art" offers a new perspective, it appeals to the lowest human instincts, so it doesn't qualify as art to me. It's clever, but it's just freedom of speech gone wild, IMO. Under the guise of art, you can get away with anything these days.

As an antidote to her nasty, artistic tirade, here's a clip where Obama was heckled today by "Blacks Against Obama".

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html

Did you notice on that video that MSNBC censored the signs the kids were holding up. They censored the signs!!! WTF???

[Hillarysmygirl08]

First of all as an African American woman rape survivor I find her statement to be both racist and sexist. I have discovered that only racists of all races vote for Obama. Now if you have never had a knife to your throat and been raped that is one of the worst things you can do to a woman. I know this I would prefer death to rape again. It was the worst experience in my life. I am sick of Rape being made into as a joke.
As an African American I am sick of the "black men will rape White Women remarks that is racist and basicially untrue. Black Men and White Men as well as Hispanic Men, Jewish Men, Muslim men ect. rape because it is an act of violence and they have some sort of inner rage at women. There have been millions of black men killed in the South for this offense even though no rape had occured. This is a way to make black men into animals. Do black men rape? of course Rapists come in all sizes and colors. They even come in both genders.
Sandra would not be so flippant if she had trouble sleeping at night due to the fact that she continues to have nightmares of a rape that occured over 30 years ago. I was an 8 year old child when I was raped.

[Tea toaD]

She has to rely on a trashy street mouth to get ANYONE to even pay attention to her. There is no way you can convince me that that profanity and violence toward woman is creative or artistic. More like LACK of creativity. But then nothing that obots think surprises me anymore. obama sure brings out the very WORST in this country and seems to attract the lowest types. Maybe he "is the one"...........the anti-christ. He certainly has not shown that he is a uniter. :eek::eek::eek:

I agree. Trash talk isn't an art as far I am concerned. Calling someone a wh*re isn't art. Greta called the writer of the article about Palin supporters being white trash and Palin being likened to a porn star a pig yesterday on her show. She said it about 3 times:eek: That's what Bernhard is to me.

[NBM]

More like LACK of creativity. Exactly.

Did you notice on that video that MSNBC censored the signs the kids were holding up. They censored the signs!!! WTF??? I didn't notice that - I saw it online. They actually censored the signs? Geez.
(And sorry for the link, now that I see a thread has been started on it.)

[Annie]

Sandra Bernhard has gone beyond simply being revolting to a point well into the realm of vulgar. These are the kind of people embracing Obama. That says it all in my opinion.

Sandra Bernhard hs always been about 'shock value' nothing else. She has no class and indeed probably would condemn it in others anyway. I think that Sarah Palin has shown such class in face of the sick and tormented females who have thrown such shit at her.

Where is Hillary Clinton - Senator of New York? I really think she should speak up and against this kind of hate.

[LetsHelpAmerica]

She has to rely on a trashy street mouth to get ANYONE to even pay attention to her. There is no way you can convince me that that profanity and violence toward woman is creative or artistic. More like LACK of creativity. But then nothing that obots think surprises me anymore. obama sure brings out the very WORST in this country and seems to attract the lowest types. Maybe he "is the one"...........the anti-christ. He certainly has not shown that he is a uniter. :eek::eek::eek:

Well said, Peachick!
That type of trash has NOTHING artistic or creative about it. And, as we approach election time, it seems to me that the level of creepiness from the Obama camp has increased. Maybe they are getting ready for Halloween! I have no real idea of just what to think of Mr Obama other than I know he is a corrupt, lying, cheating, sexist, race baiting, inexperienced fraud! But his influence certainly brings out the monster in people!!! He is one scary person!

[SantaCruzen]

Ummmm...... Sandra Bernhard..... *added to shit list*

I'm sorry how is it funny to call a woman a bitch that many times? Feminist, womanist my arse.

And could she have been more racist? Her big black brothers are going to gang rape Sarah...... riiiiight that's not racial profiling at all. Hey Sandra... it's been what 15 years since Rosanne has been off the air? Welcome to hasbeen land

It's no more funny than rapping to those terms for women is sexy.

[AdrienneJ]

Vile and disgusting.
I'm just wondering how these pieces of garbage would react if I wrote
"Sandra Bernhard would be gang-raped by blacks in Manhattan."
First of all joking about rape in any way is about as funny, as well, joking about rape.
Second this is an incredibly f-ing racist statement that she made.
To equate blacks with gang-rape as though this is a part of our cultural fabric is really disgusting and offensive.

When does the pursuit of trying to be funny and "cutely" shocking
come up against the wall of being a decent human being?

These people are just embarassments to our species.

[EH]

Another desperate attention ***** whose 15 minutes were up a long time ago. Time to move on.

[Maddie Kaddison]

Ugh, I will be the lone voice of defense because I work in the creative community - as much as reading what Bernhard says in a blog on the internet seems shocking, it is totally unsurprising to me. This is the general tone of her one person shows (I haven't seen this one, but I've seen "Without You I'm Nothing" and another one as well). She always goes after current celebrities and makes fun of them in a shocking edgy way, in the early nineties she made fun of Prince, Jodie Foster, Warren Beatty, Madonna, etc. In her last show (which I didn't see) this is the ending:



Anyway, art is art and her show is her show. Artists expressing their opinion (bad or good) in a show doesn't bother me in the least. If you don't like it, don't go. Artists expressing their opinion on CNN or in a taped interview for the public (ala Matt Damon) does bother me as they're a medium intended for another purpose to express their political views.

I agree to some degree Writer, but she begged someone in the audience to film it and release it to the media.

[victory]

Sarah's just jealous and threatened by a woman who is more intelligent and attractive than she is. Truth is... she was never that funny.

[Tom Terrific]

I don't want to argue and I don't want to offend anyone, but I do have a question. I am a nobody outside my family and friends. I sing, write poetry, draw, paint murals, love art shows , musicals, some operas, most music, remodel houses,etc. You can say that I dabble in the arts. But I do think that there are some things that should not be qualified as art. I'm not saying Sandra should be censored, but where is the line drawn in the world of art and free expression? Is it still free expression when they talk that way about people we care about and love? What if she said these things about Hillary, Princess Dianna, Mother Theresa or many other women in the public eye? When do rational people stop supporting this kind of art? Who really pays the price for the demeaning of another woman?

I would never give money to the art world, because I feel that art should be beautiful and bring about wonderful feelings. This is not! It is pure filth! I'm sorry, but I think this verbal hate is only one step away from violent abuse that feeds people with already twisted minds. My free expressive opinion!

I think the best thing to do with people like Bernhard is to turn them off.

I think many entertainers don't live in the real world, anyway. They want success, naturally; but they often seem only interested in the approval of their peers. To them, the rest of us are a bunch of rubes.

That being said, there may be a sound rationale for silencing the most extreme forms of outrageous expression. There are no rights in the US that have absolute protection under the Constitution. Given a compelling government interest that cannot be served by less intrusive measures, even those rights that are fundamental may be violated. For example, while there is a right to free speech, there is no right to yell, "Fire!" in a crowded theater; the likelihood that such a false alarm will cause injury to persons and property far outweighs the value of permitting someone to yell, "Fire!" just because it will be amuse him.

There are some forms of expression that are so incendiary that they have significant potential to cause public unrest. Some self-expression may not be worth the cost. Living in community with other human beings necessarily means accepting limitations on the exercise of our natural rights; it's the price we all pay in order to avoid stepping on each other's toes and, ultimately, killing each other.

I'm not saying the speech in this particular case qualifies for such restriction. My only point is, some speech may legitimately be restricted. And I think this is the reason.

Is WUMA a word because Women Unity My _ _ S is starting to sound like a reality.

May I suggest "FUMA," for "Feminist Unity My Ass"?

This reinforces the idea that you're still a feminist, even if you don't agree with the NOW crowd.

[Frances]

We've seen it all, his supporters are vile, aggressive and maladjusted types.
This is a take off from Obama's "typical white women" who are afraid of big black men.
And then she sizes up the black *****, which is a 200 year old take off from white men,
who have ***** the size of toothpicks.

There's nothing funny about rape, whether it's one male or a gang of males.
She needs to do community time at a rape crisis center!

[diane]

Now all Bernhard needs is Annie Sprinkle and Karen Finnley in her show and she'll be good to go!

[coyoterex]

While I agree that free speech is a cornerstone of what makes our country great, I sometimes wonder when shock value became the prime criteria rather than adding intrinsic beauty to the world. I am no professional artist, but I am an amateur poet and I perform as part of a stage act (act and do magic in an illusion show). IMHO, art is meant to inspire, and too often cheap theatrics and offense is used as a substitute for talent. The libertarian part of me gets really offended that taxpayer money is used to pay for some of this type of art.

[reddirtgirl]

I think you can compare the two because they both fit into the same category of expression of personal opinion. Just because she was standing in a theater doesn't make it art, it's closer to propaganda.

BTW no one is censoring her (obviously) so I don't know why you are saying this. The people here commenting in disgust of her rants have a voice too. Telling them not to watch is a censorship of sorts, like saying 'if you don't like it don't watch it but shut up (implied)'.

I completely agree with you. Hate is hate, no matter what form it takes.

I've never liked Bernhard, have always thought of her as despicable. Her kind of comedy is pure hatred. As someone else said, she's an ugly ugly woman and it shows in her face.

This type of HATRED *should*be* censored! Many lesser disgusting comments have resulted in race riots and firings. She should be no different. And the theatre that allows such garbage should be closed down.

I am personally sick to death of everyone yelling "free speech free speech!". Somewhere a line has to be drawn. IMO, it's one reason for the increased decadence in our society.

I can't imagine having a president who instills this kind of behavior in people (although Bernhard in particular didn't need Obama to inspire her, she's always been nasty).

[michu]

First of all as an African American woman rape survivor I find her statement to be both racist and sexist. I have discovered that only racists of all races vote for Obama. Now if you have never had a knife to your throat and been raped that is one of the worst things you can do to a woman. I know this I would prefer death to rape again. It was the worst experience in my life. I am sick of Rape being made into as a joke.
As an African American I am sick of the "black men will rape White Women remarks that is racist and basicially untrue. Black Men and White Men as well as Hispanic Men, Jewish Men, Muslim men ect. rape because it is an act of violence and they have some sort of inner rage at women. There have been millions of black men killed in the South for this offense even though no rape had occured. This is a way to make black men into animals. Do black men rape? of course Rapists come in all sizes and colors. They even come in both genders.
Sandra would not be so flippant if she had trouble sleeping at night due to the fact that she continues to have nightmares of a rape that occured over 30 years ago. I was an 8 year old child when I was raped.


I nominate this for Post of the Day. Thank you for making it.

Sarah Bernhardt has zero talent; thus she has to run her filthy mouth to make a buck. I understand this and choose to ignore her. But this? To use rape as a joke? Why aren't the feminists decrying this woman? SB is worse than a disgrace. I do not have words strong enough to describe what I feel about her and what she has done by her so-called comedic use of rape.

[scully931]

Ew... she is gross. I feel like I need a shower after watching that.