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encarn
09-20-2008, 08:38 PM
Via the Standard, I’m simply weak at the thought of the magnificent theatrical sorrow to which we’ll be treated when the blogosphere’s shrillest Obama mega-shills find out. If Joe Klein and Sullivan don’t already have pieces prepared for the occasion, consider their weekend schedules cleared.

Remember, The One himself calls this a “legitimate issue.”

Don’t be shocked if you see the McCain campaign pull the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright out of mothballs in new attacks against one-time parishioner, Barack Obama.

McCain advisers say that they see “attack by association” as fair game now, arguing that Obama’s campaign has been using that technique to go after McCain. In particular, the Obama campaign has hammered McCain on the stump and in TV ads on the number of one-time lobbyists working for his campaign. (The McCain campaign is also angry about a Spanish-language TV ad that ties McCain to Rush Limbaugh on immigration, without ever saying that McCain took on Limbaugh and others to fight for comprehensive immigration reform.)

“They played it one way, we played it another way,” said one of McCain’s top advisers, Mark Salter. “Now we’re both going to play it the same way.”…

Salter said to expect more of the same, saying the campaign was tired of “catching the spears.” Asked whether to expect attacks involved Wright, campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb said: “We’ve seen all throughout the (Democratic) primary this guy has a lot of associations that are very problematic.”

By “catching the spears” I take it he means Team Barry’s proliferating negative ads, bad-faith accusations of racism, mass mobilization efforts to shout down or otherwise “get in the faces” of people who utter the slightest criticism, and thinly veiled ridicule of McCain’s VP as a moron to whom people are drawn because she’s “cute.” But maybe I’m wrong. Exit question: How does six weeks of guilt-by-association one-upsmanship sound?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/19/its-on-mccain-camp-hints-theyre-ready-to-hit-obama-on-wright/

Game on, Barry. Game on.

PS - And you guys were worried about the nuclear option. ;)

kpmom
09-20-2008, 08:47 PM
It sounds good.

p.s. Wonder if "catching the spears" will be considered racist??

willy
09-20-2008, 08:51 PM
Wow I Was Wondering The Same I'm Sure Some Fool Will Say So.cause We All Know If U Say Anything About The One U R A Big Fat Racist!!!!!!!!!!!

encarn
09-20-2008, 08:53 PM
It sounds good.

p.s. Wonder if "catching the spears" will be considered racist??

In Obamaland, everything is racist. Unless you place your children at Obama's feet to anoint them with oil, you are obviously a racist. Not voting for him? Racist. Hillary and Bill not flagellating themselves for having campaigned against the Obamessiah? Racist. ;)

NSTYLE77
09-20-2008, 08:57 PM
What goes around comes around!:)

encarn
09-20-2008, 09:00 PM
And when BO tries to run to the MSM, crying with a bloodied nose, they will point him to his own remarks:

"People were legitimately offended by some of the comments he had made in the past," Obama said. And, "the fact that he is my former pastor ... makes it a legitimate issue" in the presidential campaign.

ssmith
09-20-2008, 09:07 PM
as someone who has NEVER voted for a repubs... I am SOOOOO rooting for the repubs to rip BO apart..

I love this country too much! I could care less if the Undemocratic party and their nominee fall apart..

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

Agent 00½ FL
09-20-2008, 09:11 PM
They would have to have a picture of BO sitting in the church witnessing one of these sermons. Otherwise the media is going to say "been there, we are over this".

Christines
09-20-2008, 09:15 PM
It's about time. They have to fight fire with fire. McCain can't be too nice. Obama has all of these skeletons in the closet that the MSM refuses to let out!
The public doesn't know the real Obama!

dandanna
09-20-2008, 09:18 PM
Yahoo! I'm soooooo glad!

encarn
09-20-2008, 09:19 PM
They would have to have a picture of BO sitting in the church witnessing one of these sermons. Otherwise the media is going to say "been there, we are over this".

The vast majority of Americans have no idea who Rev. Wright is. They paid no attention during the Democratic Primaries. This will be a "shock and awe" campaign that redefines Obama to millions who never saw this man before. The majority of Americans probably spend 1/100th of the time we do learning about candidates and the election.

ssmith
09-20-2008, 09:25 PM
The vast majority of Americans have no idea who Rev. Wright is. They paid no attention during the Democratic Primaries. This will be a "shock and awe" campaign that redefines Obama to millions who never saw this man before. The majority of Americans probably spend 1/100th of the time we do learning about candidates and the election.

really?

were people NOT paying attention?

I find this amazing...

encarn
09-20-2008, 09:29 PM
I just asked 3 co-workers who Rev. Wright is.

They had no idea.

PS - They don't know who Sarah Palin or Joe Biden are either.

Amy Dugan
09-20-2008, 09:37 PM
They would have to have a picture of BO sitting in the church witnessing one of these sermons. Otherwise the media is going to say "been there, we are over this".

RIGHT ON JUST LIKE HILLARY SAID. "I am more electable because I am vetted, all my garbage has already been rummaged through"

McCain needs to shift the economy issue to The Repubs are not to blame, Bill Clinton signed a bill in 99 is to blame not McCain. then all those Clinton economists who are on Obama team need to be named



this is not me talking, but Rush on friday

mesofreee
09-20-2008, 09:47 PM
The vast majority of Americans have no idea who Rev. Wright is. They paid no attention during the Democratic Primaries. This will be a "shock and awe" campaign that redefines Obama to millions who never saw this man before. The majority of Americans probably spend 1/100th of the time we do learning about candidates and the election.

I agree with you, they do not know. I'm glad he's revisiting Wright.

buffaloboy
09-20-2008, 10:41 PM
The vast majority of Americans have no idea who Rev. Wright is. They paid no attention during the Democratic Primaries. This will be a "shock and awe" campaign that redefines Obama to millions who never saw this man before. The majority of Americans probably spend 1/100th of the time we do learning about candidates and the election.

Sad but true - this has been a pretty eventful week in the news, right? Most of the water cooler talk at my office has centered on fantasy football, the weekly session of Call of Duty, and our upcoming session of team-building at Lasertron.

Although while most Americans don't know about Ayers, Rezko, Raines, Johnson, et al, I do think that most Americans already know about Rev. Wright. So it will be interesting how this plays out when people are reminded about him.

writerchick
09-20-2008, 10:42 PM
McCain needs to shift the economy issue to The Repubs are not to blame, Bill Clinton signed a bill in 99 is to blame not McCain. then all those Clinton economists who are on Obama team need to be named

Uh... that's a bad idea for two reasons. First, McCain throwing Bill Clinton under the bus would backfire politically. He's trying to win Democratic moderate votes of Clinton supporters, not Republicans.

Second, I don't believe Bill should shoulder the blame in the first place. Congress is to be blamed more than Clinton signing a Bill repealing Glass-Steagall Act in 99. Yes, in hindsight we can all say it opened the can of worms, but at the time the market seemed unduly constricted in such a great economy (remember the surplus?!) and it would open new growth.

No one predicted 9/11 and spending billions or trillions of dollars on a war, etc. In any case, if the subprimes had been regulated properly it would have lead to healthy growth and allowed a lot more people to buy homes. But the Democrats were the ones PUSHING subprimes in poor areas knowing perfectly well the buyers would NEVER be able to pay once the interest rates were adjusted. Democrats like Hillary were screaming about this getting out of control 2 years ago while Democrats like Obama were pushing these loans in their states. Why?

Because Obama wanted to claim, "Look at how many minorities bought new homes under my watch! I really did a lot for minorities this year! Look how much better off they are now that I'm in office..."

Congress was asleep at the wheel for 8 years on this issue, but the problem grew exponentially since 2004 and the highest from 2006 until now. Look who was in charge.

Amy Dugan
09-20-2008, 10:43 PM
remember i was speaking as Rush

Jen the Michigander
09-20-2008, 10:44 PM
I agree with you, they do not know. I'm glad he's revisiting Wright.

I wonder if the Repubs are planning to use the same old footage or if they've uncovered something even more vile?

SugnSpicesmom
09-20-2008, 10:45 PM
In regards to laying blame for today's economy on Bill Clinton - I don't necessarily see that as a smart tactic but McCain could somehow weave it into a Democratic failure and not so much President Clinton's failure.

Amy Dugan
09-20-2008, 10:50 PM
In regards to laying blame for today's economy on Bill Clinton - I don't necessarily see that as a smart tactic but McCain could somehow weave it into a Democratic failure and not so much President Clinton's failure.

until bill turns his magic on campaigning for obama then that is mccain's only hope

cindyb
09-20-2008, 10:52 PM
I was reading an email today that put alot of the blame on Jimmy Carters shoulders. Here is the link.

http://townhall.com/blog/g/845dcea6-c876-45d9-8c8c-f6baa111eec2


I agree with not putting the blame on Bill Clinton's shoulders also.
We have had some really crummy Congresses.

ssmith
09-20-2008, 10:55 PM
I was reading an email today that put alot of the blame on Jimmy Carters shoulders. Here is the link.

http://townhall.com/blog/g/845dcea6-c876-45d9-8c8c-f6baa111eec2


I agree with not putting the blame on Bill Clinton's shoulders also.
We have had some really crummy Congresses.

guys.. the repubs will never blame BIll considering bill just said 2 days ago "mccain is a great man"


at the most they will blame the dems (and bill knows how this game is played)...I hope they blame carter.. I so used to respect carter a lot .. but NO MORE.. ever since he turned a blind eye to voters in causus not being to vote.. and then goes on and on about voter fraud in other countries... WHAT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY!

encarn
09-20-2008, 11:02 PM
This mortgage and financial service meltdown was a bipartisan effort. Democrats got to push up the number of minority owned homes by a tremendous percentage. This helped them keep their constituency happy. Republicans received praise from Wall Street and investors due to the new lax regulation that allowed financiers to play fast and loose with debt and liquidity requirements. Then the Bush administration dumped fuel on the fire via a continuation of these policies, execution of the Iraq War, and inability to contain soaring energy and food prices.

Everyone had a piece of the pie that made them happy. Very few people spoke out against the situation because the majority of America was happy. This was a financial Katrina that no one expected, nor prepared for. Now we will see if Congress and the President can step and properly respond.

Carolyn
09-20-2008, 11:13 PM
really?

were people NOT paying attention?

I find this amazing...

I remember a poll at the height of the Wright controversy showed that an astonishing percentage (>20%) of people hadn't heard anything about Wright or Obama's race speech!

patrioticlady
09-20-2008, 11:14 PM
The vast majority of Americans have no idea who Rev. Wright is. They paid no attention during the Democratic Primaries. This will be a "shock and awe" campaign that redefines Obama to millions who never saw this man before. The majority of Americans probably spend 1/100th of the time we do learning about candidates and the election.

I totally agree, the vast majority of the population don't tune in to the elections until the month before voting. Let's face it, most of us here, if not all, are political junkies. We follow politics, it is like an addiction, not a bad thing mind you.:D I would rather discuss political issues with people who are informed.
Bringing the Wright issue back into the spotlight, as well as Obama's other unsavory associations can have devastating consequences for the Obama campaign.

PhillyGuy1
09-20-2008, 11:15 PM
I just asked 3 co-workers who Rev. Wright is.

They had no idea.

PS - They don't know who Sarah Palin or Joe Biden are either.

Huh? Where do you work?

PhillyGuy1

ragdoll
09-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by Agent 00½ FL
They would have to have a picture of BO sitting in the church witnessing one of these sermons. Otherwise the media is going to say "been there, we are over this".

Listen at about 9:41 Obama reads from his book. Then you can see in the following video clips that Rev. Wright talks about Hiroshima and Shanksville in more than one sermon. It seems that Obama lied when he claimed in the next clip that he never heard Rev. Wright makes these statements while he was in church.


YouTube - SHOCKING Obama words: what he really thinks of white folks

From "Dreams of My Father"

The reverend looked up at me then, a look that made me nervous. I decided to shift the conversation to more familiar
ground, telling him about DCP and the issues we were working on, explaining the need for involvement from larger
churches like his. He sat patiently and listened to my pitch, and when I was finished he gave a small nod.
“I’ll try to help you if I can,” he said. “But you should know that having us involved in your effort isn’t necessarily a
feather in your cap.”
“Why’s that?”
Reverend Wright shrugged. “Some of my fellow clergy don’t appreciate what we’re about. They feel like we’re too
radical. Others, we ain’t radical enough. Too emotional. Not emotional enough. Our emphasis on African history, on
scholarship-”

“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see
in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another
hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!”
And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend
Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State
House.

I think that Obama suffers from the same amnesia that Rev. Wright was talking about.


"If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me," Mr. Wright said with a shrug. "I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen."
http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/merevaudevillian/2008/apr/30

/one_year_ago_today_rev_wright_predicted_obama_woul d_need_to_publicly_distance_himself

He's a politician and I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician and I say what I have to say as a pastor, those are two different worlds. I do what I do, he does what politicians do so what happened in Philadelphia, where he had to respond to the sound bites, he responded as a politician.

http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/jeff_emanuel/2008/apr/25/rev_wright_barack_does_what_politicians_do

I think they are trying to hoodwink us!

nette60
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
I totally agree, the vast majority of the population don't tune in to the elections until the month before voting. Let's face it, most of us here, if not all, are political junkies. We follow politics, it is like an addiction, not a bad thing mind you.:D I would rather discuss political issues with people who are informed.
Bringing the Wright issue back into the spotlight, as well as Obama's other unsavory associations can have devastating consequences for the Obama campaign.

I feel this would be an excellent idea to remind people of Wright and his asssociates. I recall there were many AA churches that were offended by Obama trying to link all Black churches to be the same as Trinity. Play Rev Wright and remind everyone of his associates like Farrakhan who says that they want the whole damn country. I find it amazing that no Blacks such as Sharpton and J Jackson have done any campaigning for Obama. The word is to 'just let him get in' then he will take care of us. Well they will be waiting a long time. Obama is all about Obama. and what about Farrakhan whom he denounced only after hillary stated he should. However Obama and Farrakhna re close aw well. They attended the million man march together and eeach church honored the other....take a look....YouTube - LOUIS FARRAKHAN: White Folks, You Owe Us The Whole Country!

Lodi
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
RIGHT ON JUST LIKE HILLARY SAID. "I am more electable because I am vetted, all my garbage has already been rummaged through"

McCain needs to shift the economy issue to The Repubs are not to blame, Bill Clinton signed a bill in 99 is to blame not McCain. then all those Clinton economists who are on Obama team need to be named



this is not me talking, but Rush on friday

Rush couldn't be more wrong on this one! I've been making calls for McCain, from a list of Democrats. Here are three overarching themes re those who hate Obama:

1. He's a liar
2. Twenty years with Rev. Wright = racist (and btw, they say, what are we stupid? Had it been 20 days or even a year, forgivable, but 20 years--no way!)
3. THEY HATE OBAMA BECAUSE ALL HE'S DOING RE THE ECONOMY IS BLAMING MCCAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS. People want ideas--workable ones.

So relevant to item three, Rush will SURELY lose votes for McCain were the campaign to follow his flawed thinking. Dems for McCain RECALL FONDLY HOW FOR THE FIRST TIME DURING THE BILL YEARS THEY DID SO WELL FINANCIALLY.

Leave the Clintons out of it, OR ELSE!

One Dem veteran hates McCain. It was painful to listen to him. He's in his sixties and served in Vietnam. He actually doesn't believe or buy at all that McCain could've been released from the POW camp and said no. Sheesh, I've heard even the biased media verify that one.

He doesn't like BO either, for reason related in item 3, and he thinks BO is selfish. The only person he wanted was HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lodi
09-20-2008, 11:33 PM
This mortgage and financial service meltdown was a bipartisan effort. Democrats got to push up the number of minority owned homes by a tremendous percentage. This helped them keep their constituency happy. Republicans received praise from Wall Street and investors due to the new lax regulation that allowed financiers to play fast and loose with debt and liquidity requirements. Then the Bush administration dumped fuel on the fire via a continuation of these policies, execution of the Iraq War, and inability to contain soaring energy and food prices.

Everyone had a piece of the pie that made them happy. Very few people spoke out against the situation because the majority of America was happy. This was a financial Katrina that no one expected, nor prepared for. Now we will see if Congress and the President can step and properly respond.

There you go! The two parties cancel each other out. Therefore, let's hear about solutions, or else. People I called are pissed off something fierce, and they want workable solutions.

Lodi
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
In regards to laying blame for today's economy on Bill Clinton - I don't necessarily see that as a smart tactic but McCain could somehow weave it into a Democratic failure and not so much President Clinton's failure.

Not one of the folks I spoke with was interested in finger pointing. McCain will lose Dem votes. They definitely want solutions. McCain should push his transparency idea, based on Palin's having the Alaska state checkbook visible online. People WANT this.

nette60
09-20-2008, 11:46 PM
Not one of the folks I spoke with was interested in finger pointing. McCain will lose Dem votes. They definitely want solutions. McCain should push his transparency idea, based on Palin's having the Alaska state checkbook visible online. People WANT this.
I agree with this theory. However the Washington Post did a story on how Obamas ads were much more negative then McCains..I don't think people necessarily want to hear doom and gloom but info on what McCain and Palin will do to change things such as using Palin's open book policies and givingback to the people....

Tague
09-21-2008, 12:11 AM
You can tell a lot about a person's character by the company they keep

I truly believe that, and I would think that most Americans do too.

Wright, Ayers, etc,, are not just "guilt by association" accusations, they are a factual means to show that there should be serious concerns about BOs judgement.

And don't forget the "Bitter and clinging to guns and religion with antipathy to those not like them" remarks. These are another example that BO just has no clue whar makes America "tick". He is basically calling folks who feel this
way stupid and low class, as well as saying that if they do not support him for POTUS they must also be racists.

I say, GOP, bring it on. Replay the Rev Wright videos over and over.

Then make an ad with the setting literally being under a bus. Have people already "under the bus" be shown measuring for mud flaps and a politely asking each other how they could make more room.

Remind America that while BO may be now asking all of us stupid, gun hugging, church going racists for our vote, his real plan excludes us. Anybody who is not as far left as him, or anybody who has worked hard, saved, took the initiative to obtain an education. has spent years working their way up in a career and was disciplined fiscally will also soon be under
the bus too.

Sorry if that is harsh - all of this economic crisis is getting to me I guess. It just seems that BO has deliberately turned this entire process into and "we against them" class and economic status war. Seems every economic and social program he talks about is based upon what is essentially wealth redistribution. Never once have I heard him say or reference deferred gratification, and the pride it brings when you succeed on you own. Nope - not once. He is pandering to the "I want it now, and even if I cannot afford it I should be entitled to it, and the gov't should find a way to just give it to me because someone else has it" crowd. That is socialism.... and its scaring the u know what out of me and many I speak to.

GOP bring it on....please.

samkm
09-21-2008, 12:40 AM
Glad to hear it. Bring it on, GOP!!

xfiles
09-21-2008, 01:49 AM
I think the repubs should ask in their ads:

Would you vote for or want THIS man for president? Show a clip of Wright's hateful rampage(s).

Then why would you vote for THIS man (show pic of Obama) who sat in Wright's pews for 20 years, attending church about 2 times a month, listening to his anti-American tirades?

BTW, Obama said Wright was a legitimate political issue.

And of course, ads about Ayres, Khalidi and others Obama has spent a lot of time and discourse with.

Horizon
09-21-2008, 01:54 AM
Oh, it's on like Donkey Kong.

encarn,where the hell did you dig that one up from?? I about died laughing!

Yes,it's past due for Barry to get his comeuppance.Bring it on,John!!!

Styria
09-21-2008, 01:59 AM
I hope they'll do an ad on Obama's associations with Fannie Mae's crooks.

VotingHillary
09-21-2008, 02:10 AM
I feel this would be an excellent idea to remind people of Wright and his asssociates. I recall there were many AA churches that were offended by Obama trying to link all Black churches to be the same as Trinity. Play Rev Wright and remind everyone of his associates like Farrakhan who says that they want the whole damn country. I find it amazing that no Blacks such as Sharpton and J Jackson have done any campaigning for Obama. The word is to 'just let him get in' then he will take care of us. Well they will be waiting a long time. Obama is all about Obama. and what about Farrakhan whom he denounced only after hillary stated he should. However Obama and Farrakhna re close aw well. They attended the million man march together and eeach church honored the other....take a look....YouTube - LOUIS FARRAKHAN: White Folks, You Owe Us The Whole Country! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWxNeGOXSoA)

There is only one group of our citizens that is OWED anything...and that is our Native Americans.

freespirit
09-21-2008, 02:18 AM
It's time to get the show on the road, and remind the Americans what Obama's really about. MSM certainly is not going to tell the truth about Obama.

ragdoll
09-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Styria
I hope they'll do an ad on Obama's associations with Fannie Mae's crooks.

Here you go, plus you get a bonus ad about AIG.

YouTube - Jim Johnson

YouTube - Advice

YouTube - John McCain - Nothing New

Amy Dugan
09-21-2008, 08:25 AM
in Aug a 527 ran Ayers ad right before DNC and McCain started gaining then (Russia attack was on too)

Strongwomenrock
09-21-2008, 09:21 AM
About 'GOD DAMN' time. I was wondering when they were going to do that. They should show old footage of Hitler ranting side by side with footage of Wright ranting. That's all they'll need to do.

reddirtgirl
09-21-2008, 09:34 AM
They would have to have a picture of BO sitting in the church witnessing one of these sermons. Otherwise the media is going to say "been there, we are over this".


Don't we have the next best thing in MO ranting behind the pulpit? Seems funny to me that they have been hiding her for weeks and weeks. Talk about a hatemonger.

I'm wondering (again) if there is a whitey tape...

DC_Mark
09-21-2008, 10:27 AM
I think a Wright ad directly from the campaign would seriously backfire. Americans are worried about the economy. Attack ads should focus on Obama's big money supporters, like the Fannie ones. Penny Pritzker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_Bank_of_Chicago), Obama's national finance chair, would make an excellent target. Ads about Chicago Annenberg Challenge--without the Ayers angle--would be good too. The CCSR's final report on the project (http://www.eric.ed.gov:80/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1b/8c/e1.pdf) paints a picture of failure:

In summary, the failure of the Challenge to achieve an overall effect on school improvement could be due to a number of shortcomings in the design and implementation of the Challenge itself. These include the breadth of its goals and the vagueness of its strategies for school development; the number of participating schools and the inadequacy of the resources they received; and general weaknesses in the levers for change that it developed, particularly with regards to accountability.

Voters should be asked: "Do you really want this guy to fix the economy?"

foxyladi
09-21-2008, 12:45 PM
It sounds good.

p.s. Wonder if "catching the spears" will be considered racist??

of course,,every thing is!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

reddirtgirl
09-21-2008, 02:35 PM
I think a Wright ad directly from the campaign would seriously backfire. Americans are worried about the economy. Attack ads should focus on Obama's big money supporters, like the Fannie ones. Penny Pritzker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_Bank_of_Chicago), Obama's national finance chair, would make an excellent target. Ads about Chicago Annenberg Challenge--without the Ayers angle--would be good too. The CCSR's final report on the project (http://www.eric.ed.gov:80/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1b/8c/e1.pdf) paints a picture of failure:



Voters should be asked: "Do you really want this guy to fix the economy?"


Sometimes I fear Mac really IS 'out of touch', the campaign takes too long to respond to attacks. It's like I wonder if they can't come up with some of the great info here that we have. If they have it, they haven't used it yet. So hurry it up!

And Mac's talk about the economy isn't near strong enough to instill confidence in the voters. I find myself yelling at the TV screen for him to SAY SOMETHING STRONG about what he will do about the financial mess we are in. If he doesn't do it soon, I will really get worried.

SugnSpicesmom
09-21-2008, 02:44 PM
Oh, it's on like Donkey Kong.

encarn,where the hell did you dig that one up from?? I about died laughing!


Mary, it's got to be from a country song called "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" by Trace Adkins. He sings a line, "Got it going on like Donkey Kong." Hilarious!

SugnSpicesmom
09-21-2008, 02:46 PM
Not one of the folks I spoke with was interested in finger pointing. McCain will lose Dem votes. They definitely want solutions. McCain should push his transparency idea, based on Palin's having the Alaska state checkbook visible online. People WANT this.

Juli, of course you are right - people don't want finger pointing. They want solutions. My point was if people are trying to place the entire blame for the economy on Bush, there is sufficient evidence out there that we were headed in this direction long before Bush took over. In fact, I think we can trace some of it back to when Carter was in office.

I personally don't want the finger-pointing either. I want some clear solutions outlined for how in the hell we're going to get out of the mess we are in - hopefully in one piece.

SugnSpicesmom
09-21-2008, 02:49 PM
Sometimes I fear Mac really IS 'out of touch', the campaign takes too long to respond to attacks.

Mac has fought harder battles than the one he's facing against Obama. My guess is every move, every ad, every attack is a slow calculation to take Obama out. Right now, Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot and Biden's not helping him any.

I believe the McCain camp is allowing Obama to keep talking and saying absolutely nothing. Right now that is keeping them pretty much even in the polls (Rasmussen has McCain down by one. With the margin of error they are in a dead heat). McCain will start push, push, pushing in early October and by mid-October will slam the living hell out of Obama. It will be over before Obama knows what hit him.

hillwillwin08
09-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Mac has fought harder battles than the one he's facing against Obama. My guess is every move, every ad, every attack is a slow calculation to take Obama out. Right now, Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot and Biden's not helping him any.

I believe the McCain camp is allowing Obama to keep talking and saying absolutely nothing. Right now that is keeping them pretty much even in the polls (Rasmussen has McCain down by one. With the margin of error they are in a dead heat). McCain will start push, push, pushing in early October and by mid-October will slam the living hell out of Obama. It will be over before Obama knows what hit him.


Yeah, I think we have to trust Steve Schmidt, the Karl Rove protégé,
who is running the McCain campaign.

NBM
09-21-2008, 03:22 PM
I agree with SugnSpicemom's points here. McCain relishes political competition and chooses his shots wisely. As you said, he's been through much worse. He's fearless. His camp has responded promptly to Obama's attacks.

No economic plan by either candidate can cover every problem we're facing. McCain put his plan out there - Obama has offered NO plan yet.

And (off topic) I really believe McCain is the right person for president for this time in history. His whole life has prepared him for this moment. It would be a disgrace to our country to lose the chance for McCain at the helm. Obama could always run again, if he's ever once fully VETTED and gains SOME experience.

wulf12
09-21-2008, 03:33 PM
FINALLY! Hit 'em and hit 'em hard on the Rev. Wright stuff.

I think they've deliberately supressed this scandal so it would appear "fresh" when it reemerges

kathleen
09-21-2008, 03:42 PM
FINALLY! Hit 'em and hit 'em hard on the Rev. Wright stuff.

I think they've deliberately supressed this scandal so it would appear "fresh" when it reemerges

Those are my thoughts too. Delay the scandal attacks so BO has less time to defuse the suspicion. The later, the better. With the MSM helping BO, best to wait closer to election day to minimize that endless MSM assistance. And it will be much fresher in the voters minds.

DC_Mark
09-21-2008, 04:56 PM
And Mac's talk about the economy isn't near strong enough to instill confidence in the voters. I find myself yelling at the TV screen for him to SAY SOMETHING STRONG about what he will do about the financial mess we are in. If he doesn't do it soon, I will really get worried.

It might sound counterintuitive, but I think the turmoil on Wall Street actually helps McCain. Before the collapse of Lehman, voters have a vague sense of discontent about the economy. The vagueness allows Obama to blame the Bush tax cuts or Bush mismanagement or import. The line that McCain "doesn't get it" is effective only when voters don't really know what 'it' is. Now, the picture in voters' mind has sharpened: The economy is bad because of corruption at financial institutions and their cosy relations with lawmakers. Linking the difficult economic situation with corruption bringing an area where McCain is weak into an area where he's strong. Even the Washington Post had to acknowledge that he has a record in pushing for tighter regulation of financial institutions.

I think the Fannie ads will draw blood. They need to hit Obama again with Rezko. Now that the halo around the One is gone, the McCain camp can redefine him as what he really is: a typical Chicago Machine pol. The should hit him with Penny Pritzker (chairman of collapsed subprime lender), with Emil Jones (blocking ethics reform in Illinois), with Alexi Giannoulias (banker who lent to convict felons). The list of Obama's bad associates is SO long that you can pick and choose those who fit into the desired narrative. I don't see a need to recycle the Wright stuff. Just a distraction.

Hillarysmygirl08
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
I doubt Obama will ever be run again because that is very uncommon. I believe McCain will do what he has to do. The Republicans have a better record of winning then the Democrats do. They know about early voting and I am sure they will do all they can do to get as many votes as possible.

12counts
09-21-2008, 07:52 PM
McCain will start push, push, pushing in early October and by mid-October will slam the living hell out of Obama. It will be over before Obama knows what hit him.

Starting in October? Sorry, but there's no time to waste. It needs to start yesterday.

The Obama campaign is registering thousands of new voters daily in battleground states, putting ballots in their hand, and forcing them to vote early. The AP is estimating that maybe 1/3 of this years voters may be early voters.

If McCain waits, the election could be decided well before November.

I don't think the GOP understands what it's up against. Obama's foot soldiers are ruthless and they are quietly executing a ground game that could steamroll those of us who wait till election day to vote.

Being a Clinton supporter, I KNOW what these people are capable of. The swift boating must start NOW!

Tea toaD
09-21-2008, 07:57 PM
I wonder if they drag Rv.Wright out of the moth balls, if it will have a reverse affect:confused: I thought a group down in NC tried that during the primaries and it didn't go over real big. I don't know what he has to do other than try to keep the voter fraud down (impossible) and go after BHO's weak points which are many.