(9/25/08) "Obama Admits Dual Citizenship" (TD Blog) -- He admits Kenyan citizenship on his OWN website!!

[sadie]

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/#comments

So, at long last, Senator Obama admits that he was born with Dual Citizenship:

From “Fight the Smears”

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

Now nice Anti-Pumas, please admit that the Senator has been selling snake oil and you have been buying it. I said he was probably born with Dual Citizenship under the 1948 Act at the outset, and I wasn’t wrong. Likewise, I wasn’t wrong about the Kenyan Constitution and his Kenyan Citizenship. Don’t take any bets that I’m wrong about Indonesia. Or the US Constitution and what it means.

Please note that I, once again, state that I, personally, believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that it doesn’t affect my opinion on his Eligibility for the Office of POTUS at all. In my understanding Article II Requires that one be a “Natural Born Citizen”, and in terms of the Law as understood by the Framers, anyone with Dual Citizenship could not be “Natural Born”. It does not matter that they no longer hold that Citizenship, they fall into the same bracket as a “Naturalized Citizen” because they have/had Divided Allegiance. That is my view and I haven’t moved an inch on it.

However, the Kenyan Citizenship Issue may not be the main point here, WAS HE, OR WAS HE NOT, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN? The Senator isn’t saying, isn’t mentioning it, is trying to avoid producing any Paperwork at all. Why? If he is/was an Indonesian Citizen, too, the Senator’s entire narrative is a fiction and he should be ashamed of himself.

He’s lied about Kenya, at least by omission, for months/years, so why should I assume he isn’t lying about Indonesia? Note Kenyan Citizenship automatically lapses if it isn’t renewed at age 21, Indonesian Citizenship doesn’t. If he was an Indonesian Citizen he would have to actively repudiate that Citizenship. Did he? Has he? Because if he hasn’t, Senator Obama is Dual National Indonesian at this moment, subject to the Laws of BOTH Countries, equally.

That is true under US Law, Indonesian Law and International Law and until LAST YEAR Indonesia DID NOT Recognize Dual Citizenship and the USA did not Recognize that one could be a Dual US/Indonesian Citizen. It does not matter that the Senator was not Responsible for the change of Citizenship because he was a child when it happened. Governor Schwarzenegger was not Responsible for the fact that he was born in Austria, or that under Austrian Law he is not a US Citizen, or under the US Law and Rules he is not a Citizen of Austria.

Senator Obama needs to produce his Paperwork, all of it, not just a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, but all his other Paperwork too.

So, the Senator WAS a Dual National. That is now an admitted fact, admitted by his own Campaign and by Annenberg. The Senator is a Constitutional Lawyer which means that he knows, and has always known, that he is probably Ineligible to Hold the Office of POTUS, or that, at the very least, there is a strong Legal Argument that that is the case. In turn, that means that as he lied about his Kenyan and British Citizenships he is probably lying about his Indonesian Citizenship.

I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.

Please don’t tell me that the US doesn’t have to concern itself with the Laws of Indonesia because, in this case, the US does have to do so. By the way, under US Law of another time the Senator would not have been a US Citizen at all, and he knows that.

If a Naturalized Citizen cannot hold the Office of POTUS because they previously held another Citizenship it is egregious, so far as I am concerned, that a Dual Citizen/Former Dual Citizen should claim to have a Legal Right to do so. I refer the reader to my Articles on Dual Citizenship and ask you to read the quotes from Blackstone. [TD NOTE: I will be re-posting all of Judah's work shortly].

This new material at “Fight the Smears” displays arrogance, hubris and bad faith, in my opinion. It is the Senator’s reaction to Phillip Berg’s Law Suit, and, basically, it amounts to an open admission of mens rea. He is flaunting his bad faith and in so doing destroys his own case.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

OMG! He's getting flushed out....

Here's the link to fight the smears: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

He's been covering up this story for months now and where there's smoke.....

Also, this still does not explain why he is listed as being born in two different hospitals in Hawaii nor does it prove that he is not a dual citizen. I for one still believe that he was actually born in Kenya and his grandmother submitted the information for his birth certificate. Wow. This is getting interesting.

[xj550]

My son and daughter were born in Ohio. Grandma placed an ad in my hometown WI paper.

[greenleaf]

FighttheSmears.com cites FactCheck.org.


FactCheck story link:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

[SadStateOfAffairs]

From "Fight the Smears":

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

For those of you who have been here a while, you will know that I have repeatedly stated that when I was researching Obama in November of 2007 that I came across the TUCC website. On that site, members of TUCC are requested to pledge their allegiance to Africa. You will also know that this statement had been scrubbed from the TUCC website by early Feburary. Since Barack attended TUCC for 20 years, I would find it hard to imagine that he didn't pledge his allegiance to Africa. This is why he appears so unpatriotic, desimates american symbols and is so disrespectful of Americans in general IMHO.

I also think that the republicans have an actual birth certificate for Barack....from Keyna.

[samkm]

My son and daughter were born in Ohio. Grandma placed an ad in my hometown WI paper.

I dont get the connection???

[samkm]

From "Fight the Smears":

For those of you who have been here a while, you will know that I have repeatedly stated that when I was researching Obama in November of 2007 that I came across the TUCC website. On that site, members of TUCC are requested to pledge their allegiance to Africa. You will also know that this statement had been scrubbed from the TUCC website by early Feburary. Since Barack attended TUCC for 20 years, I would find it hard to imagine that he didn't pledge his allegiance to Africa. This is why he appears so unpatriotic, desimates american symbols and is so disrespectful of Americans in general IMHO.

Great point there.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

FighttheSmears.com cites FactCheck.org.


FactCheck story link:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

Factcheck can no longer be believed as they are in cahoots with I believe the Annenberg project which was founded by William Ayers's father. (Bill Ayers, the unrepentent terrorist, whose home Barack Obama launched his political career from)

[G4Hillary]

As long as Obama is born on US soil there can be no argument against eligibility. Americans just won't buy it. If he willfully as an adult accepted being a dual citizen, then that is something important.

But if they were to actually find that he was born on Kenyan soil, that would be the end.

[xj550]

I dont get the connection???

He could have born outside of Honolulu, so what if there was an announcement in the paper. It does not have to be true.
They may have just wanted to have US citizenship. No grand plan just incase he would be POTUS someday

[Mrsawd]

we should send to all medias now maybe this will get coverage

[xfiles]

Obama deliberately tried to cover this up. That in and of itself should disqualify him and prove that he cannot be believed on anything. His whole life is a bunch of lies and exaggerations.

Besides all that, since he cannot produce a valid, real, certified, legal, legitimate Hawaiian BIRTH CERTIFICATE, that further leads us to believe he is not a natural born US citizen!

I hope the media and everyone else is on top of this!

[brussell]

Let's see .... why did Obama help Odinga in Kenya????!!

[SadStateOfAffairs]

As long as Obama is born on US soil there can be no argument against eligibility. Americans just won't buy it. If he willfully as an adult accepted being a dual citizen, then that is something important.

But if they were to actually find that he was born on Kenyan soil, that would be the end.

And therein lies the problem. He will not submit an original Birth Certificate. It's a simple request, but instead he has this Certificate of Live Birth which has been argued to be a forgery by a forensic document specialist. In fact, this specialist made an excellent case that the document was made on the computer. Barack will not allow anyone to actually look at the COLB. Instead, he had some of his buddies (Annenberg or factcheck) hold the document up for reporters to photograph. Not a great way to check authenticity.

And this is why the lawsuit might get some attention. It certainly seems to have Barack's attention if he's updating his "Fight the Smears" website.

[We_Count]

Omg

[Power of Palin]

Where is the link where he admits it? I know that they had to respond to Bergs Suit today but where did he admit or his camp admit it? What person from his camp spoke for him?

[G4Hillary]

Obama deliberately tried to cover this up. That in and of itself should disqualify him and prove that he cannot be believed on anything. His whole life is a bunch of lies and exaggerations.

Besides all that, since he cannot produce a valid, real, certified, legal, legitimate Hawaiian BIRTH CERTIFICATE, that further leads us to believe he is not a natural born US citizen!

I hope the media and everyone else is on top of this!

timefor...,
Obama's entire life is full of cover ups. From Wright to Ayers to his lost years at Columbia U. The media seems to care not. They will do anything to get him elected. Even ignore entire years of his life!

I just checked the latest North Carolina Poll. Obama has taken the lead according to it.

The MSM is 110% behind Obama. They are practically an Obama infomercial. I don't get it........

[xfiles]

It's on his website link above--first or 2nd post.

Where is the link where he admits it? I know that they had to respond to Bergs Suit today but where did he admit or his camp admit it? What person from his camp spoke for him?

[xfiles]

You are exactly right! And the fact that he covered this up for so many months and years, should let people know what a liar he is. He should step down!


timefor...,
Obama's entire life is full of cover ups. From Wright to Ayers to his lost years at Columbia U. The media seems to care not. They will do anything to get him elected. Even ignore entire years of his life!

I just checked the latest North Carolina Poll. Obama has taken the lead according to it.

The MSM is 110% behind Obama. They are practically an Obama infomercial. I don't get it........

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Let's see .... why did Obama help Odinga in Kenya????!!

So he'd be up for a good cabinet position in case he's deported????:eek::D

[michu]

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

[Joe from WI]

As long as Obama is born on US soil there can be no argument against eligibility. Americans just won't buy it. If he willfully as an adult accepted being a dual citizen, then that is something important.

But if they were to actually find that he was born on Kenyan soil, that would be the end.

The big problem with BO is he doesnt give us straight answers, even on simple things like citizenship. Why? Coz he's an opportunist who panders to all sides. This is the same for his muslim background. He claims he is christian, but doesnt renounce his muslim lineage. When the convenience arises, he'll pull out his muslim lineage to cheat and pander to the middle east.

This is one of the biggest problem i have with him.

[lynfreedom]

I don't see that it will matter. Indonesia has the same law as Kenya. He would have automatically lost his citizenship there also. Berg is looking elsewhere for answers.

[xfiles]

His coverup is just as important as the possiblity he is ineligible. He lied by omission and still has not produced a valid Hawaiian birth certificate.

I hope people would care! With this big question mark hanging over him, he should not be allowed to run.

As long as Obama is born on US soil there can be no argument against eligibility. Americans just won't buy it. If he willfully as an adult accepted being a dual citizen, then that is something important.

But if they were to actually find that he was born on Kenyan soil, that would be the end.

[Power of Palin]

But it says he didnt renounce his US citizenship so his Kenyan expired in 82 giving him a single citizenship. I think? Where does the Indonesia passport come in in 81? Wouldnt that mean he was triple country citizen????because Pakistan was off limits to Americans then? Very Confused. Could someone explain or does this put him in a position like Arnold in California and that he is ineligible as POTUS.

[xfiles]

If he wasn't born in Hawaii but rather Kenya, then yes, he is ineligible like Arnold. The problem is that he cannot PROVE he is a US citizen because the certification of birth is probably a forgery and even if it isn't, it doesn't really prove much. His grandmother could have many years ago submitted documents or paperwork to get this certification which is not really legit. I think that's what happened and why the confusion about being born in 2 different hospitals.

I also find it interesting that NOT ONE person has come forward in Hawaii and said, "I was present at his birth at XYZ hospital."

Where are the witnesses?

But it says he didnt renounce his US citizenship so his Kenyan expired in 82 giving him a single citizenship. I think? Where does the Indonesia passport come in in 81? Wouldnt that mean he was triple country citizen????because Pakistan was off limits to Americans then? Very Confused. Could someone explain or does this put him in a position like Arnold in California and that he is ineligible as POTUS.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

But it says he didnt renounce his US citizenship so his Kenyan expired in 82 giving him a single citizenship. I think? Where does the Indonesia passport come in in 81? Wouldnt that mean he was triple country citizen????because Pakistan was off limits to Americans then? Very Confused. Could someone explain or does this put him in a position like Arnold in California and that he is ineligible as POTUS.

Well, we don't know that his citizenship expired in Kenya. I believe a constitutional lawyer/s would have to examine that claim. He had to have Kenyan citizenship in order to obtain a passport for Pakistan as US citizens were not allowed to travel there. But the problem is becoming one of a cover-up wherin the lies to hide the truth are becoming as big of an issue as the problem itself. He keeps claiming he is an American citizen but has yet to prove it which is why he's being sued. Further, the person who would investigate this matter would be the head of the FEC. And that person would be none other than Harry Reid.............which is probably why the DNC is being sued as well. It's a total cover up.

[Power of Palin]

If he wasn't born in Hawaii but rather Kenya, then yes, he is ineligible like Arnold. The problem is that he cannot PROVE he is a US citizen because the certification of birth is probably a forgery and even if it isn't, it doesn't really prove much. His grandmother could have many years ago submitted documents or paperwork to get this certification which is not really legit. I think that's what happened and why the confusion about being born in 2 different hospitals.

I also find it interesting that NOT ONE person has come forward in Hawaii and said, "I was present at his birth at XYZ hospital."

Where are the witnesses?Probably because who would have thought he would amount to anything later on which he really hasn't. He was just another baby in their minds. That birth certificate sure looks brand new to be that many years old. Flawless!!!??? So if he went to Pakistan and he had dual citizenship in 81, he would not have been able to enter the country because of that part US citizenship, since Pakistan banned Americans then.

[Suzan]

I'm confused too. Has anyone in the media investigated/reported on this? Fox? Anyone? I can't imagine why they wouldn't dig into this. I can understand why the MSM is ignoring it, but what about Fox and the conservative blogs?

I just don't understand why this hasn't been resolved. It seems so fundamental.

[Suzan]

Well, we don't know that his citizenship expired in Kenya. I believe a constitutional lawyer/s would have to examine that claim. He had to have Kenyan citizenship in order to obtain a passport for Pakistan as US citizens were not allowed to travel there. But the problem is becoming one of a cover-up wherin the lies to hide the truth are becoming as big of an issue as the problem itself. He keeps claiming he is an American citizen but has yet to prove it which is why he's being sued. Further, the person who would investigate this matter would be the head of the FEC. And that person would be none other than Harry Reid.............which is probably why the DNC is being sued as well. It's a total cover up.
Okay, just saw this, which explains some of it.

[Annie]

OMG! He's getting flushed out....

Here's the link to fight the smears: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

He's been covering up this story for months now and where there's smoke.....

Also, this still does not explain why he is listed as being born in two different hospitals in Hawaii nor does it prove that he is not a dual citizen. I for one still believe that he was actually born in Kenya and his grandmother submitted the information for his birth certificate. Wow. This is getting interesting.

Oh I think he was definitely born outside of the US adn Hawaii as his sister was.... His sister has two birth certificates - one from Kenya and one a year later in Hawaii. Obviously his Mother brought him in to get a birth certificate on american soil after he was born out of the country...probably Kenya - or maybe British Columbia as somebody found a bc there in his name - might not be him though.... could be another Barack Hussein Obama.

I think though the main thing is his Indonesian Citizenship - Indonesia laws are different from Kenya - and as his step father Soetoro (who he looks a lot like) has him listed as Indonesian and his religion as Islam in his school records. And he by reports travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport to visit his Mother and go shooting with some Pakistani friends. He is a world citizen right enough... as his reported father , born in Kenya, was at that time under the British Commonwealth..... very complicated.

What happens now is anybody's guess..... Joe Biden for DNC Potus nominee?

[Bad Kitty]

Will the real BO or BS please stand up?

[i hate nbc and cnn]

knowing obama it is probably true he was born in kenya all he does is lie, him and his liberal friends will do what ever it takes for him to be president. thing is would the msm media even report it. the only person i could think of bringing this up is hannity or rush and they be out numbered by the msm they would call them racist classless i dont see them or anyone else bringing this story up

[Pepper]

Will the real BO or BS please stand up?

Please stand up! Please stand up!

[Pepper]

So he'd be up for a good cabinet position in case he's deported????:eek::D

Finally, my homegirl's back. And may I add...HAHAHAHA! If it were only true, I'd vote for him in that position.

[indigo]

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/

now we need an admission that he traveled to Pakistan with Indonesian citizenship aka Barry Soetoro.

[mjno7777]

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/

now we need an admission that he traveled to Pakistan with Indonesian citizenship aka Barry Soetoro.

Is this the same thread/link as last night or new information?

[Eddie3dfx]

Now it's kenyan?

Kenyan-Indonesian passports.. whats next? He's probably some Iranian spy.

[PA_Voter]

So now BHO's organization, softly admits he had 21 years of dual Citizenship. What else are they hiding.... Is Indonesian citizenship going to be his 3rd?

How can anyone trust this guy to be our United States President?

[Michelle M]

Obama strategically placed this information at this particular time in hopes that it would be lost in the crush of press surrounding the financial crisis and the debates. Pretty good timing. Obviously, he knows it's going to come out. I pray someone pays attention.

[foxyladi]

Now it's kenyan?

Kenyan-Indonesian passports.. whats next? He's probably some Iranian spy.

would'nt surprise me????:mad:

[Chris11]

Article II Requires that one be a “Natural Born Citizen”, and in terms of the Law as understood by the Framers, anyone with Dual Citizenship could not be “Natural Born”. It does not matter that they no longer hold that Citizenship, they fall into the same bracket as a “Naturalized Citizen” because they have/had Divided Allegiance.

If the above quote is true then this is the HUGE breakthrough we have all been waiting for. I agree that he strategically placed his expired dual citizenship on his fight the (so called) smears website at this time because it would likely be overlooked or ignored with everything going on. If this is in fact true, then it is definitely "change we cannot afford!" :eek:

[Phoenix]

The timing of this admission is very predictable. We have a financial crisis dominating the MSM right now.

[MS BLUEGRASS]

The timing of this admission is very predictable. We have a financial crisis dominating the MSM right now.

HUMMMM....Interesting!

[Memphis_Blues]

Drop Obama and add Hillary. Sounds like a plan to me.

[Bad Kitty]

merged. :D

[Bad Kitty]

The timing of this admission is very predictable. We have a financial crisis dominating the MSM right now.

Exactly.

[Tea toaD]

Now it's kenyan?

Kenyan-Indonesian passports.. whats next? He's probably some Iranian spy.

Or has them on his staff:eek: I read back several months ago about this.

[JamieKuuipo]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_18_3.gifLETS XRAY HIS BRAIN, SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT HE IS HIDING

[samkm]

Drop Obama and add Hillary. Sounds like a plan to me.

Where's the dotted line for the signatures on this? My pen is ready.

[HumbleDave]

This Obama character is the 21st century hoax of all time. The guy is a walking, talking hologram. It's time to pull the plug on the imaginary candidate. The Trojan horse.

[mjoynaples]

From "Fight the Smears":



For those of you who have been here a while, you will know that I have repeatedly stated that when I was researching Obama in November of 2007 that I came across the TUCC website. On that site, members of TUCC are requested to pledge their allegiance to Africa. You will also know that this statement had been scrubbed from the TUCC website by early Feburary. Since Barack attended TUCC for 20 years, I would find it hard to imagine that he didn't pledge his allegiance to Africa. This is why he appears so unpatriotic, desimates american symbols and is so disrespectful of Americans in general IMHO.

I also think that the republicans have an actual birth certificate for Barack....from Keyna.


there was a time when the Trinity Church site listed them not sure if they are still there however, committment to Africa was one of them....

[Laura Cereta]

It seems we're making progress... :)

[Tea toaD]

there was a time when the Trinity Church site listed them not sure if they are still there however, committment to Africa was one of them....

I think they've been scrubbed from the list.

[AnnaB]

How do you say 527? I know the left has move-on.org. Who does the
527 "commercials" for the right?

[Bad Kitty]

How do you say 527? I know the left has move-on.org. Who does the
527 "commercials" for the right?

Whoever they are, they need to get on their job.

[Phoenix]

I suspect the 527s on boths sides are holding fire until they see the "white of their eyes". Human nature is short memory.

[Bad Kitty]

I suspect the 527s on boths sides are holding fire until they see the "white of their eyes". Human nature is short memory.

True especially with the biased MSM. They would report it one day and then forget about it....except for Fox of course.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Finally, my homegirl's back. And may I add...HAHAHAHA! If it were only true, I'd vote for him in that position.

:D:D

[SadStateOfAffairs]

there was a time when the Trinity Church site listed them not sure if they are still there however, committment to Africa was one of them....

Yes, they do pledge committments to Africa, which I think is noble. But, TUCC is a church which is exclusive to the BVS, not an inclusive teaching of the christian religion. So I find their teaching to be an oxymoron. Also, Africa is the worlds poorest nation and I find it commendable that a group would seek out those less fortunate than us to lend a helping hand.

What really bugged me was the page they scrubbed which was an actual "Pledge of Allegiance to Africa". One who is running for POTUS cannot pledge their allegiance to another nation without putting ours in peril. I think this is why he likes to call himself a citizen of the world, not the USA. His commitments are not soley to America as they should be for POTUS.

[Kbentleyis]

One's citizenship does not "expire". There is more to this than I expect. Has this gone out to media, i.e., Hannity, etc.?

[Angelica91]

Sorry but if he wasn't born in USA he cannot be President...is it right??:confused:

[xfiles]

I did but the more people who put this out there, the more likely it is to get noticed!


One's citizenship does not "expire". There is more to this than I expect. Has this gone out to media, i.e., Hannity, etc.?

[HumbleDave]

What really bugged me was the page they scrubbed which was an actual "Pledge of Allegiance to Africa". One who is running for POTUS cannot pledge their allegiance to another nation without putting ours in peril. I think this is why he likes to call himself a citizen of the world, not the USA. His commitments are not soley to America as they should be for POTUS.

And that's the bottom line. Hyphenated citizenship does not a president make. The POTUS needs to be first and foremost for the needs OF THIS COUNTRY FIRST.

We do not need a POTUS who may be compelled to play a balancing act between the needs of America and those of an African nation or any other nation. He needs to stand for the USA as the representative of the USA and the USA only.

[xfiles]

My Comment:

Obama pledged allegiance to Black Liberation Theology which requires allegiance to NO OTHER entity or country. THIS is why the lying slimball won't wear a flag pin or salute the flage. His allegiance is NOT to the US!


Article:

More at this link:

http://westernfrontamerica.com/2008/02/19/obama-black-liberation-theology/

Barack Obama belongs to an unabashedly Black African-centered church. Its teachings focus on a “black value” system. It has knowledgeable Americans questioning how Obama’s church (Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ) and its pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. influence the man who wants to be President of the United States.

Why couldn’t Obama have chosen to be a Methodist, a Pentecostal or a Lutheran? What drew him to a church that many find questionable?

Many Americans attend churches their parents attended. Others choose denominations where they are comfortable with the teachings.

As a whole, the United Church of Christ does not teach black liberation theology. The main Conference of the denomination is responsible for the theological teachings of its churches and the manner in which they are presented.

The nagging question begs to be answered. Why would the top Democrat presidential candidate feel more comfortable attending an Afrocentric church? Obama’s attendance at a church that encourages blacks to separate themselves from the rest of American society must be explained. How can he claim to be able to unite and reach across to all the people in the nation?

Excerpts from the Trinity United Church of Christ — Black Value System:

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.

A congregation preaching SALVATION.

A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.

A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.

A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.

A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.

A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.

A congregation committed to LIBERATION.

A congregation committed to RESTORATION.

A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

American society has changed positively since the days of Martin Luther King and the freedom marches. Why is there this need by some to retreat back to the days of separatism while claiming that they are moving society forward?

Many people do not understand what black liberation theology is. If Mitt Romney found it necessary to make a speech about his Mormon faith, it’s about time that Obama explain black theology. There has been much controversy over faith in this election year. However, Obama’s church leaves something to be desired regarding social acceptability of its ideology. “Thus saith the Lord” is taught in quite a different fashion.

Black theology teachings began in America during the Civil Rights Movement. A demanding authority of presumptuousness was ushered in claiming black theology as the legitimate Voice of God to all black Americans.

The central theme of black theology puts an emphasis on the oppression of the black people. All aspects of this type of theology become a “subjugating theme.”

According to mainstream doctrinal teaching, black theology falls short. Its cornerstone is one which focuses on the oppression of blacks. The biblical teaching in mainstream Christian denominations is Christ-centered. Their focus is the Lord Jesus Christ who was to come, came, and is coming once again, and will reign forever. “I am the LORD; and they shall be my people.” (Jeremiah 24:7)

Is black theology one of hope or does it purposefully dredge up painful feelings of victimization? If that be the case, it would be wiser to consider a church where it is fully understood that God is no respecter of color or gender. (Acts 10:34)

[indigo]

Why is this admission coming out now? so he can spin it later when the repub produce some evidence. Read the comments under this article---enlightening

[xfiles]

I think because of the Phil Berg lawsuit. Obama needs to PROVE he is NOT a Knyan citizen or Indonesian citizen (some sort of paperwork where he denounced these citizenships) and PROVE he is a US citizen with a LEGITIMATE birth certificate.

Otherwise, he is presumed to be a dual citizen, perhaps not even a LEGITIMATE US citizen!




Why is this admission coming out now? so he can spin it later when the repub produce some evidence. Read the comments under this article---enlightening

[Mrsawd]

Why is this being kept from the medias ??

This should be real big news today !

[indigo]

Read this by one of the bloggers on Texas Darlin..maybe it should be a new thread. At the very lease should inspire further investigation Who else is named Obama?

According to the Social Security Death Index,

Renee ABENA OBAMA died on 25 Dec 2004.

She was born 31 Oct 2004 in Maryland and issued SSN 215-71-0752.

Who were her parents?

[G4Hillary]

His coverup is just as important as the possiblity he is ineligible. He lied by omission and still has not produced a valid Hawaiian birth certificate.

I hope people would care! With this big question mark hanging over him, he should not be allowed to run.
I agree. The problem is that the media will cover up for him until the end. They know all this information but will sit on it until after election day. The only way to actually make anything of this is a massive protest. But then the problem with a protest is that if he indeed does have his birth certificate, the protesters will look silly and further attempts to address his false claims will be thwarted.

[nette60]

Oh I think he was definitely born outside of the US adn Hawaii as his sister was.... His sister has two birth certificates - one from Kenya and one a year later in Hawaii. Obviously his Mother brought him in to get a birth certificate on american soil after he was born out of the country...probably Kenya - or maybe British Columbia as somebody found a bc there in his name - might not be him though.... could be another Barack Hussein Obama.

I think though the main thing is his Indonesian Citizenship - Indonesia laws are different from Kenya - and as his step father Soetoro (who he looks a lot like) has him listed as Indonesian and his religion as Islam in his school records. And he by reports travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport to visit his Mother and go shooting with some Pakistani friends. He is a world citizen right enough... as his reported father , born in Kenya, was at that time under the British Commonwealth..... very complicated.

What happens now is anybody's guess..... Joe Biden for DNC Potus nominee?

I really thinkit was Canada. Just because his mothers friends (there is a video on youtube) were shocked when she showed up with Obama in Washington Sate when he was only a few months old....

[Hillarysmygirl08]

I wonder when this will be picked up and investigated perhaps the law suit is a great idea.