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brussell
03-25-2008, 06:31 PM
Any thoughts on this?

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The Las Vegas Review-Journal's Molly Ball has Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the record seeming to imply that high-level, uncommitted Democrats are ready to tell Hillary to quit the race:

Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?

Reid: Easy.

Q: How is that?

Reid: It will be done.

Q: It just will?

Reid: Yep.

Q: Magically?

Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.

Cryptic. But as I wrote yesterday, the tide is truly changing -- power players such as Reid and Nancy Pelosi are now willing to say on the record that they believe primary campaigning should end after the remaining states have voted and pledged delegates have been allotted. That means things are looking dismal for the Clinton camp, since extending the race indefinitely into a superdelegate fight is their only practical strategy.

--Dana Goldstein

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2008&base_name=harry_reid_it_will_be_done

johnny51981
03-25-2008, 06:34 PM
I'd tell the DNC to F-Off if that were the case. If Obama is the nominee...they will see that they will be trying again to get a President in 2012 because BO will not win the GE.

lanney
03-25-2008, 06:42 PM
That is why BHO is on vacation, these loser gang had told him, you will be our appointed nominee.
Now get ready to lose GE and some Congress and Senate seat.
I for sure will move my residence, so that I can vote against Botox queen.

Patsy
03-25-2008, 06:43 PM
Harry Reid is a senile old fool and Howard Dean is utterly useless.

BO is unelectable in the GE. Period. End of Statement.

I HAVE NOT VOTED YET! And no one will know until these primaries are over and they do something with MI and FL. who actually has the pop vote. I could give a rat's behind about delegates.

If I were HRC I'd tell them to F off too until they have ALL the votes counted. If they push her out and then seat the MI and FL delegates, all Hell will break loose. No rioting, but I envision picketing in Denver.

And the DNC and all those old Party losers will have no one to blame but themselves because McCain will make 2008 look like a walk in the park when he spanks their Golden Boy and turns some blue States red.

Soaring Eagle
03-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Where are these democrats minds? Do they not understand WE WILL LOSE THIS RACE IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE? Get off the Kool-Aid and start thinking democrats!

neutralplayer
03-25-2008, 06:52 PM
That's not much for the record.....

Reid could have been implying anything.....

Tea toaD
03-25-2008, 06:53 PM
How in the world can they being saying such a thing. Correct if I'm wrong but didn't it take at least until June for Bill Clinton to secure his nomination? It wasn't even messed up like this one is. MI and FL are getting the shaft because of almighty Dean?:confused: Dirty hands are stirring the pot of witches brew.

Patsy
03-25-2008, 06:54 PM
How in the world can they being saying such a thing. Correct if I'm wrong but didn't it take at least until June for Bill Clinton to secure his nomination? It wasn't even messed up like this one is. MI and FL are getting the shaft because of almighty Dean?:confused: Dirty hands are stirring the pot of witches brew.

Double bubble, toil and trouble.....

Peppermint Patty
03-25-2008, 07:02 PM
This is from part of my blog today:

The Democratic party has lost any sense of integrity when leaders like Kennedy, Kerry and Richardson say that their delegates should vote the way their states did (MA and NM went for HRC) and then turn around and support BO. When they continue to support a candidate caught lying on camera several times.

I am completely disgusted by the party literally trying to shove Hillary Clinton off a cliff. It doesn't seem to make any difference if we point out how she is still in this race to win the nomination and CAN do it. Nope. The main stream media, CNN, MSNBC, etc. continues to push and shove and shout against her. I suspect Obama could be caught on camera shaking hands with Osama Bin Laden and people would STILL find some way to explain it away!!!

The rancor toward Hillary Clinton is unbelievable but it points up the basic truth: a woman has to work twice as hard for half the money, praise and promotion than a man. That Hillary has lasted this long, has withstood this onslaught and maintained her dignity and strength is a testament to her capabilities as the leader of the free world.

Hillary made one, slightly insignificant mistake in speaking about her trip to Bosnia. Never mind that she wrote about it the right way in her book. This one slip had the media, the women on The View ready to tar and feather her! What misplaced outrage! Did this remark hurt anyone's feelings? Blast someone as a racist? Put down a group of people? Change the course of the world? No.

Where was their outrage over Obama lying on camera over his knowledge of Rev. Wright's sermons? I'll tell you where it was. BURIED under the words, words, words, pretty little words of Barack Obama. His "fabulous" speech on race relations mesmerized 'em again. As P.T. Barnum observed, there's a sucker born every minute!

One candidate is all smoke and mirrors, false hope and illusion.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is a candidate of substance, intelligence and a real sense of leadership that this country needs.

As one man asked on the Hillary Clinton forum recently, maybe it's time for a second Democratic party. We can gather up the disenfranchised voters of Florida and Michigan and anyone else fed up with this party and start a second Democratic Party.

Because I'll tell you this, the Democratic party is headed for a huge crash and burn and a rude awakening if they don't nominate the better candidate, Hillary Clinton.

I hope that after Hillary Clinton CRUSHES Obama in Pennsylvania, the powers that be in the DNC will wake up and face the music. Face the reality that their MAN cannot and will not beat McCain. And that it will be their fault that the Democrats fail miserably in November.

There are none so blind as those who will not see...:(

Ohio mom
03-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Well hang on guys...you guys automatically jump to the conclusion against Hillary...Who's to say they haven't chosen Hillary because they do realize the back lash of Obama would be detrimental!!!! chin up!!!!:;)

ALL4HILLARY
03-25-2008, 07:03 PM
obama when to far at attacking hillary we should do the same

Ohio mom
03-25-2008, 07:05 PM
obama when to far at attacking hillary we should do the same

don't sink to that level..sounds like you are giving up:eek:

EH
03-25-2008, 07:12 PM
You know, I'm kinda getting sick of all these whispers down the corridor that insinuate that all these pro-Obamanites want to ask Hillary to step down...why don't they just sprout a pair of balls and tell it to her face already? What are they scared of? Put your money where your mouth is! They're already committed to Obama anyway - or are they starting to have buyer's remose as well? Not 100% sure so let's keep our mouths shut just in case?

Amy Dugan
03-25-2008, 07:14 PM
right before NV caucus,the media was harping on reid's pro-hillary ties and how that could help hillary there

she won NV

neutralplayer
03-25-2008, 07:16 PM
I think people are reading too much into his words.

Reid's done a pretty good job so far remaining netural.

Annie
03-25-2008, 07:19 PM
I think people are reading too much into his words.

Reid's done a pretty good job so far remaining netural.

Reid wanted to remain neutral but his son was not neutral - he was with Clinton and probably still is.

Ijane
03-25-2008, 07:19 PM
That means things are looking dismal for the Clinton camp, since extending the race indefinitely into a superdelegate fight is their only practical strategy.


Can they stop her?

Doesn't she have a legal right to continue for as long as she wants?

SD
03-25-2008, 07:19 PM
i'm not giving up until hillary does. and she is going strong. i don't know if these "party muckymucks" even have the power to tell either candidate to just drop out,,, but hillary is showing just why she is the best candidate! she is not responding to crap like this, at least not that i have seen, and is staying strong. :)

CGP
03-25-2008, 07:20 PM
These DNC FOOLS are absolutely IDIOTIC if they think Hillary supporters will vote for Barack Obama under such circumstances in a general election - after cheating the process and cutting it short to hand the nomination to him on a platter. They - the DNC FOOLS - are handing the general election to the GOP.

Do they honestly think the 50% of people who have voted for Hillary will donate the Democratic campaign if BO is GIVEN the nomination?

They have lost their minds...

WHY DO THEY HAVE A SUPERDELEGATE SYSTEM & A CONVENTION IF THEY HAVE NO INTENTION ON USING IT?

DNC LEADERSHIP = BUNCH OF FOOLS!

CGP
03-25-2008, 07:22 PM
Time For Obama To Step Down.

He Is Dividing The Democratic Party Via Racism, Sexism And Ageism.

And Huge Doses Of Dishonesty, Deception & Propaganda.

Mom4Hillary
03-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Well hang on guys...you guys automatically jump to the conclusion against Hillary...Who's to say they haven't chosen Hillary because they do realize the back lash of Obama would be detrimental!!!! chin up!!!!:;)

Thank you, Ohio Mom! Let's hold on and not think the worst. I know it's easy to get paranoid, especially in the type of work we're doing right now (reading web posts, reading hate-rant after hate-rant on post comments by Obamaniacs, and Chris Matthews, et.al.,), BUT, Hillary is a smart one and she won't be easy to brush off. She's got Bill too.

Should BO get the nomination, I believe it's because the DNC needs to "hit bottom," as they say in Alcoholics Anonymous. They will die. Perhaps the phoenix that will rise from the DNC ashes will be a better political party.

ALL4HILLARY
03-25-2008, 07:26 PM
She was thinking for the good of the democratic Party until now and she did not attack Obama hard. She should. Because now people showing the Bosnia case as the biggest problem ever for Hillary, and comparing the Pastor as almost nothing compares to this. They are sick in the Media. She should go all the way against Obama so people could see who he really is

pnevai
03-25-2008, 07:27 PM
This is troubling news. After watching the documentary Bush's war on PBS last night I could not believe the high power back stabbing that went on in the west wing no less.

We need a repsonse to this from the Campaign. Because if anything the documentary made clear that if powerful insiders want you out. Then one way or another you will either be bypassed or strong armed out of your position.

Until this new is clarified by the campaign this is the first news that really makes me nervous.

Patricia GA
03-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Do they honestly think the 50% of people who have voted for Hillary will donate the Democratic campaign if BO is GIVEN the nomination?


You know I wrote to the DNC about counting the votes in Michigan and Florida more than once. I started getting e-mails for contributions. I wrote them after the second or third request and told them I would not contribute to the Democratic Party unless they counted votes of Florida and Michigan or did a re do. I also stated that until the votes are counted I would be contributing all my donations to Hillary Clinton. I have not heard a peep from them since. Has anyone else had this happen? I

Ijane
03-25-2008, 07:35 PM
I think Hillary needs to threaten the DNC that if she doesn't get the nomination she'll register as a "write-In" candidate for the general election. That ought to scare the hell out of the DNC. Their thinking if they shut out Hill now, there'd be enough time for the DNC and Obama to reunite the party. If she threatens to register herself as a Write-in, they'll know they won't be able to unite the party before the election.

I don't think she'll do it. She'll fight like hell and then take the high road, but she should do it :mad:

CGP
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
She was thinking for the good of the democratic Party until now and she did not attack Obama hard. She should. Because now people showing the Bosnia case as the biggest problem ever for Hillary, and comparing the Pastor as almost nothing compares to this. They are sick in the Media. She should go all the way against Obama so people could see who he really is

Agreed. Did you vote in the poll about this?

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=3154

PuppyDogMom
03-25-2008, 08:22 PM
Sounds to me like Harry Reid seems to have an overblown sense of self-importance. Remember the playground kid who would snottily say "I know something you don't know..." :p:p:p

Harry Reid, et. al., don't get it.

tcbwriter
03-25-2008, 08:28 PM
Any thoughts on this?

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The Las Vegas Review-Journal's Molly Ball has Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the record seeming to imply that high-level, uncommitted Democrats are ready to tell Hillary to quit the race:

Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?

Reid: Easy.

Q: How is that?

Reid: It will be done.

Q: It just will?

Reid: Yep.

Q: Magically?

Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.

Cryptic. But as I wrote yesterday, the tide is truly changing -- power players such as Reid and Nancy Pelosi are now willing to say on the record that they believe primary campaigning should end after the remaining states have voted and pledged delegates have been allotted. That means things are looking dismal for the Clinton camp, since extending the race indefinitely into a superdelegate fight is their only practical strategy.

--Dana Goldstein

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2008&base_name=harry_reid_it_will_be_done
Well I disagree with the analysis in the article.

If it goes until all the states have voted, the superdelegates can make their choice at that point. They can announce their decision prior to the convention, as more than half have already done . . .

If she has shown she is more electable, who knows what they're going to do.

BTW, in case you didn't know, Harry Reid's son was chair of Hillary's campaign in Nevada.

SantaCruzen
03-25-2008, 08:34 PM
The percentage between the election votes is so small that it constitutes a duel. Hillary Clinton is not losing per se. If those caucuses were unlegalized like they should be as outmoded, she would have won more due to winning primaries. BO's team is such a sham that they are embarrassment to all of us knowing that the DNC is really pulling a scandal on the entire Democratic Party.

skc1976
03-25-2008, 08:34 PM
If the DNC suceeds in getting Hillary to step aside, they can rest assured they will have many people to answer to in the general election as they throw their Hillary support behind McCain. If things had been done in a more fair manner, maybe they could rely on the support to go to Obama. But with the way this ignorant national committee has treated an amazing candidate, they can kiss our butts!!!!

I'm to the point now of saying, screw the Democrats and sieze BACK the nomination!

tcbwriter
03-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Maybe we should this article to our advantage.

Write to Harry Reid and tell him what you think about 1)the party suggesting she should step down and 2) how upset you are about Michigan and Florida voters being disenfrachised.

Maybe somebody other than Dean needs to hear it . .

You can email him here:

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Suzan
03-25-2008, 08:46 PM
You know I wrote to the DNC about counting the votes in Michigan and Florida more than once. I started getting e-mails for contributions. I wrote them after the second or third request and told them I would not contribute to the Democratic Party unless they counted votes of Florida and Michigan or did a re do. I also stated that until the votes are counted I would be contributing all my donations to Hillary Clinton. I have not heard a peep from them since. Has anyone else had this happen? I
I'm a registered independent, but I honestly wish I was a registered democrat so I could get one of those emails. Boy would I have fun.

Suzan
03-25-2008, 08:52 PM
These DNC FOOLS are absolutely IDIOTIC if they think Hillary supporters will vote for Barack Obama under such circumstances in a general election - after cheating the process and cutting it short to hand the nomination to him on a platter. They - the DNC FOOLS - are handing the general election to the GOP.

Do they honestly think the 50% of people who have voted for Hillary will donate the Democratic campaign if BO is GIVEN the nomination?

They have lost their minds...

WHY DO THEY HAVE A SUPERDELEGATE SYSTEM & A CONVENTION IF THEY HAVE NO INTENTION ON USING IT?

DNC LEADERSHIP = BUNCH OF FOOLS!
That's powerful, Murray. I'd send it to the DNC. Under another name, maybe, but I'd send it. They need to see that they're dealing with a time bomb.

Speaking of which, Obama's dealing with one too. Did y'all hear that the Rev Wright canceled--or had canceled for him--all three of his speaking engagements, one of which was to be today in Florida. I wonder if the BO has him tied up and gagged somewhere.

pnevai
03-25-2008, 08:55 PM
Maybe we should this article to our advantage.

Write to Harry Reid and tell him what you think about 1)the party suggesting she should step down and 2) how upset you are about Michigan and Florida voters being disenfrachised.

Maybe somebody other than Dean needs to hear it . .

You can email him here:

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

I would suggest that you first go to superpages.com and find a Address in Nevada to fill in for the address!!!

Since you must enter an address to send a message. It is most likely that if you enter a outof state address their spam filter will dump your email!!!
Make sure the zip code is correct for nevada as well. Otherwise your tiime writting your email can be wasted.

tcbwriter
03-25-2008, 09:05 PM
I'm a registered independent, but I honestly wish I was a registered democrat so I could get one of those emails. Boy would I have fun.
I did the same thing with the same result . . .

I'd love to think they were getting the message but somehow I doubt it.

SD
03-25-2008, 09:06 PM
Patricia GA , the same thing happened to me. :D i kept hitting "reply" and telling them i will not donate to the democratic party until florida is counted. i stopped receiving their emails. :D

xyndau
03-25-2008, 09:11 PM
We need to send strongly worded, but positive, emails to Reid's senate office letting him know our feelings on his inuendos.

Ohio mom
03-25-2008, 09:14 PM
Sounds to me like Harry Reid seems to have an overblown sense of self-importance. Remember the playground kid who would snottily say "I know something you don't know..." :p:p:p

Harry Reid, et. al., don't get it.



HAHAHA...I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT...BUT I CAN PICTURE THAT NOW :p

Ohio mom
03-25-2008, 09:17 PM
Thank you, Ohio Mom! Let's hold on and not think the worst. I know it's easy to get paranoid, especially in the type of work we're doing right now (reading web posts, reading hate-rant after hate-rant on post comments by Obamaniacs, and Chris Matthews, et.al.,), BUT, Hillary is a smart one and she won't be easy to brush off. She's got Bill too.

Should BO get the nomination, I believe it's because the DNC needs to "hit bottom," as they say in Alcoholics Anonymous. They will die. Perhaps the phoenix that will rise from the DNC ashes will be a better political party.
Well I can tell youright now..the obama people are just looking soooo petty and well frankly stupid...everyone knows she was asked a question about it and it was probably an obama person asking the question....It's not going to stand!!!! they just keeping digging their own hole!!!:p

CGP
03-25-2008, 09:17 PM
Yes, it will be done alright - Hillary supporters will exodus the democratic party en masse if the DNC cheats the process and installs a candidate who embraces racism, sexism, ageism, dishonesty and perception!

Ijane
03-25-2008, 09:30 PM
You can email him here:

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm


Thank you TCBWriter for Reid's contact link.

Yes, it will be done alright - Hillary supporters will exodus the democratic party en masse if the DNC cheats the process and installs a candidate who embraces racism, sexism, ageism, dishonesty and perception!

And thank you Murray for the message that I just sent him! :D

david m
03-25-2008, 09:38 PM
just remember this-quitters never win! and winners never quit! do you really think that hillary will quit? then you should read her book. she's never backed down from anyone and she is not going to start now. also there are 13,000,000 people and counting who support her and what would happen if we let the dnc know that third parties can be formed and that the dnc will become history if we abandoned them for our own good and not theirs. i for one will never vote for that bleep and based on what i have read about him and who may really be backing him we will be better off if mccain win in the ge.

CGP
03-25-2008, 09:41 PM
And thank you Murray for the message that I just sent him! :D

Always happy to help spreading the truth!

CGP
03-25-2008, 09:43 PM
just remember this-quitters never win! and winners never quit! do you really think that hillary will quit? then you should read her book. she's never backed down from anyone and she is not going to start now. also there are 13,000,000 people and counting who support her and what would happen if we let the dnc know that third parties can be formed and that the dnc will become history if we abandoned them for our own good and not theirs. i for one will never vote for that bleep and based on what i have read about him and who may really be backing him we will be better off if mccain win in the ge.

You realize you are speaking to the converted?!!! :)

It's the media/obama peddling the "needs to quit" story. Most Hillary supporters have, thankfully, not fallen for the vile trap to help Obama cheat his way to victory.

Charlie Brown
03-25-2008, 09:48 PM
I'm a registered independent, but I honestly wish I was a registered democrat so I could get one of those emails. Boy would I have fun.

LOL!!!!!

hobbitt
03-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Maybe we should this article to our advantage.

Write to Harry Reid and tell him what you think about 1)the party suggesting she should step down and 2) how upset you are about Michigan and Florida voters being disenfrachised.

You can email him here:

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Great idea. I will bet that the Dem Party leaders are not expecting a tidal wave of protest. And Pelosi in California (won by Clinton) and Reid in Nevada (won by Clinton) should mind their own instructions about superdelegates.

And how it would be so embarrassing in November if they could not deliver their states -- which they obviously could not do if Obama was the candidate.

And somewhere in your message, if appropriate, mention the demographic realities: 54 per cent of the electorate is female, 12 per cent of the population is black.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
or, if you live in California, sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

pearson
03-25-2008, 09:57 PM
If you read that article carefully, it does say that something will be done after all the primaries are over. So it seems that the point is the powers that be want a nominee declared after all the primaries are over but well in advance of the convention.

If I'm reading that correctly, then I could live with that -- I really do want all the primaries to be conducted. Once all the states have their say (including MI and FL, by the way!), then I think the Super Delegates could make their decisions...

RayinAR
03-25-2008, 09:57 PM
Thank you TCBWriter for Reid's contact link.



And thank you Murray for the message that I just sent him! :D

I sent the same message only I went further and said we would unite and vote Republican in November and Also vote out some Key people along with it. I also said I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

B positive
03-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Sen. Reid-
1. Michigan & Florida deserve to be part of the process. Why starve the children if you're upset with the parents?!

2. Obama is UNELECTABLE. Listening to and financially supporting racist & anti-American teachings will not match up well against the "McCain =American war hero" campaign coming this Fall!

3. BIG BLUE STATES mean everything! States like No.Dak will never vote Dem so why bother? When Hillary won New York it was the equivalent of 40 North Dakotas!

4. The overwhelming majority of SuperDels are MALE while >55% of likely voters are female. How do you think WOMEN will feel if the nomination is stolen from them ?

5. Hillary is TOUGH and that's what we need in dealing with world leaders. I can't even fathom Obama making any headway with Putin! Can You? He's just not tough enough!

6. Hillary has the strength, intelligence and experience to lead the nation!

Thank you for taking the time to read my email.

mooaks
03-25-2008, 10:10 PM
Didn't anyone read the "Three Myths piece from the Hillary Clinton web sight" My gosh, There are millions of people that havent voted yet. I wouldn't read too much into your subject matter. The DNC knows very well that people are not bluffing out there and if it was possibly spun the way some think, (which I don't)
He wouldn't be a very popular president. About half for him and half against. No universal health care, nadda, ziltch, zero, nothing, :o:o:o

evolin
03-25-2008, 10:12 PM
I heard part of Hillary's interview today and it appeared they had asked her about some wanting her to get out.
She indicated every one she knew was telling her to stay in and she was going to do just that.!!!!!!

diane
03-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Reid may be aluding to the proposal that is being put forth by the Dem of TN. It was discussed on NPR--Diane Rehm show the other day.

The proposal is that after all the States Primary Voting is done, all the Super Delegates would then have their own special vote ahead of their actual voting day so as to make the day they actually vote just a formality. In this way, each would declare their preference, and whomever gets the most votes "wins", therefore enabling Unity once again in the Dem Party.

To me, this seems like it undermines the actual voting process and it pre-emptively would "force" out the other candidate as the pressure would be unrelenting to drop out, especially if during the Super Del pre-vote choosing, there was a clear "winner". I'm not in favor of it, I think there is too much of a chance for voter fraud.

Surprisingly, the DNC--Dean, is not in favor of the proposal either, which surprised me as I thought he and the DNC would be all for it. I guess maybe they not so sure Hillary won't win! : ) Or perhaps they're afraid the Suer Dels may just uphold their duty and nominate for the best most qualified candidate--again Hillary! : )

evolin
03-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Great idea. I will bet that the Dem Party leaders are not expecting a tidal wave of protest. And Pelosi in California (won by Clinton) and Reid in Nevada (won by Clinton) should mind their own instructions about superdelegates.

And how it would be so embarrassing in November if they could not deliver their states -- which they obviously could not do if Obama was the candidate.

And somewhere in your message, if appropriate, mention the demographic realities: 54 per cent of the electorate is female, 12 per cent of the population is black.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
or, if you live in California, sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

And I do not know the percentages but many men are seriously having the same thoughts as women!!!! We could make it a rout!!! even congress!!

endodoc79
03-25-2008, 10:27 PM
I just emailed Harry Reid, but as stated if you are not in his Nevada district it might be bounced. CALL HIM- 202-224-3542 -I left this email as a voice message:
I am so disappointed by the actions of Democratic party operatives in the hotly contested Democratic primary for president. If it takes 2024 delegate votes to reach the nomination, and no one has reached that goal the race should go on. Having operatives announce that Hillary should step aside demeans the voting process, and makes this whole spectacle a farce. Disenfranchising voters under the guise of party unity is a sham. All the Democratic voters should have a say in this process, not just the lucky ones who get to vote first. I am just "a typical white person" who wants Democrats in Florida to have a say in our nominee, not only Texas Republicans who had the option to vote in our primary. As a lifelong Democrat I feel that my support for Hillary is an attempt to save the party, not hurt it. I want a Democrat in the White House to appoint Supreme Court justices with Democratic values, and Hillary is that person. For me and many other Democrats, Obama just does not pass the gut test - in a time of crisis, I just don't know enough about him to trust him to do the right thing for the American people. Please save the Democratic Party NOW - LET ALL THE DEMOCRATIC VOTES COUNT - FL, MI AND ALL THE PRIMARIES.

freespirit
03-25-2008, 10:33 PM
Well hang on guys...you guys automatically jump to the conclusion against Hillary...Who's to say they haven't chosen Hillary because they do realize the back lash of Obama would be detrimental!!!! chin up!!!!:;)

If they have one grain of sense, they've chosen Hillary, if not, to hell with them. If it takes destroying the party to get Hillary on the ticket on the General Election then so be it. I think even Hillary, a loyal Dem. must feel betrayed enough by now to support leaving the party if the best judgement of party leaders is to back BO. TO HELL WITH ALL OF THEM, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

B positive
03-25-2008, 10:52 PM
... I think even Hillary, a loyal Dem. must feel betrayed enough by now to support leaving the party if the best judgement of party leaders is to back BO...

Gee, R U referring to Judas Richardson ?????

memphis
03-25-2008, 11:31 PM
I sent Senator Reid a forceful but respectful email.

luvhillary
03-25-2008, 11:56 PM
Maybe, and just maybe this might be in our favor. Maybe they are trying to figure out a way to count FL and MI (which might be the things being done) and having a clear winner after the primaries might mean the meeting between the superdelegates in June.

Once again I must say that I will NEVER EVER EVER vote for BO. I don't give a crap about the Demorcratic Party. I vote according to who the best candidate is. This time around, there is no doubt that Hillary is the clear choice.

hillary4change
03-26-2008, 12:01 AM
I went to the site and read the story.
I could not believe the blogs.They were so bad.
I left this message:

I have to say this. I want to know why Hillary has to step aside.
Because she is a woman & he is A.A. man, that hasn't won yet??
Do you see how insane that is? He hasn't won.

I am so tired of the sexism of people. Get a grip.
She doesn't have to quit because he said so.
Or conversely he doesn't have to quit because she said so!!!

Howard Dean and the DNC have a very real agenda!!!
You can see it as plain as the nose on any face!!

You people sound so sexist, because you are!!
HELLO people, Hillary supporters are not stupid,
they will be furious if she is asked to leave.

Oblahblah can't win in the G.E. accept it & move on,
he is done!!!

I wish Hillary would run Independent beat obamas @$$,
while giving Howard Dean the finger.

People pay attention. They are trying to squeeze her
out so she isn't on the ballot for a new vote in Mi. & Fl.

Hoping that they will jump on the oblahblah band wagon.
They wont. They watch T.V & read the paper, they know
what obama has said about them. "Doesn't matter, beauty
contest, they don't count". He is avoiding running against her
because he knows he will lose!!

Hillary has been treated so badly by the media you dont see it
because you are Hillary haters!! But know that they are going to
try to blame it on Hillary, when the real reason is Dean aint fit to lead.

Women are waking up & getting pi$$ed.
That is why her #'s keep going up.
The DNC trys to shoot her down & it makes her #'s go up!!!
Wake up people!!

HONESTY
03-26-2008, 12:10 AM
Hillary is getting way too much criticism today (CNN Larry king, etc) for something that happened 12 years ago in Bosnia. She has apologized for her mistaken recollection and embelishment. Everyone is calling her names and I am hurting. Americans should know that:
-Obama lied to our faces saying he "had not heard" the pastor say those evil things
-Obama lied to us on National TV during a debate when said "he had only worked for Rezko for 5 min worth counseling time" (Rezko is in fact a LONG time friend of his)
-Obama has seriously missrepresented his upbringing and his "exposure" to harships as a child in his biography (see ChicagoTribune 3/22 or 3/24)
-Obama, a man of words, has repeteadly used "exact" quotes in "exact" contents of speech belonging to other people and used them as his own.

Hillary was in Bosnia at a time of war. Her trip was hugely successful. Did she embelish? yes, is that a crime NO!!!!!!

Hillary has received enough poisonous bullets in her lifetime and she is still STANDING!!!

Please blog in as many outlets if the issue is up for debate. They are hurting her.
LETS KEEP WORKING HARD AND HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE ABOUT THIS.
WE NEED PA BIG AND THEN NC AND INDIANA. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE SUPERDELEGATES NOW. LETS GET OUR GIRL TO WIN. THE WRIGHT STORY SHOULD NOT DIE. IT SPEAKS VOLUMES OF THE JUDGEMENT OF BHO.

hillary4change
03-26-2008, 01:02 AM
I sent Senator Reid an E-mail. Here it is:

Dear Sir,

I was writing you in regards to an interview you did the other day about Hillary Clinton and the DNC.
I wanted to let you know that I feel that your comments sounded as if you were implying that the DNC will be pushing Senator Clinton out of the race soon.
I hope sir, that you understand that Senator Obama has hit a very raw nerve with his recent comments about women as well as his refusal to step away from his Minister.
I have seen MANY double standards as to what his campaign and surrogates can say, versus what the Clinton campaign and surrogates can say. I can assure you if the Senator from New York was to say a black person was Typical, I wouldn't be sending this e-mail, it would be over for Senator Clinton.
I want to say, that I think that Senator Obama is unelectable in my opinion. I can't see how he can clean up the mess that is the opinion of the American people.
The media can try as they might but Senator Clinton is not to blame for this. Mr Obama is.
I want us all to focus on the fact that 2 + million voters are being "pushed out of the process" just as Senator Clinton is. I also want to add that there is still several million voters that have not had their Primaries yet. I believe we will see an even bigger shift in what the people are going to say this next Primary akin to what we saw in Tx. & Ohio.
I pray Sir, that you will help to ensure that the Democratic process is preserved and followed through.
I will say that women voters are feeling tread upon and will not be voting Democratic if Senator Clinton is pushed out by the DNC. We will be doing 1 of 3 things I am sure.
1) Vote Mccain
2) Write in Hillary
3) Protest with silence.
I can assure you we will get together and unite in our choice.
Sincerely,

B positive
03-26-2008, 01:56 AM
I will say that women voters are feeling tread upon and will not be voting Democratic if Senator Clinton is pushed out by the DNC. We will be doing 1 of 3 things I am sure.
1) Vote Mccain
2) Write in Hillary
3) Protest with silence.
I can assure you we will get together and unite in our choice.
Sincerely,
Brenda Puccetti

EXACTLY! THE DONATIONS, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, ETC... THAT'S OUR VOICE! AND IN NOVEMBER, IF NEED BE.... WE WILL SEND A CLEAR & STRONG MESSAGE JUST AS YOU HAVE OUTLINED ABOVE!!

foreigner4hillary
03-26-2008, 03:18 AM
The MSM keeps printing misleading things like "A prolonged dispute over how to deal with Michigan and Florida — which defied party rules to hold early contests and now face having their delegates shut out of the nominating process — shows no signs of a quick conclusion."

FLORIDA DID NOT DEFY PARTY RULES. I think there's a very big difference between defying and being forced to.

If the republicans forced the issue on them, how can they be said to defy it?! Howard Dean should be sacked for intentionally conspiring with the republicans to disenfranchise florida voters.

Ohio mom
03-26-2008, 06:58 AM
If they have one grain of sense, they've chosen Hillary, if not, to hell with them. If it takes destroying the party to get Hillary on the ticket on the General Election then so be it. I think even Hillary, a loyal Dem. must feel betrayed enough by now to support leaving the party if the best judgement of party leaders is to back BO. TO HELL WITH ALL OF THEM, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW SHE IS MANAGING TO STAY SO STRONG. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR BO IF THEY STEAL THIS AWAY FROM HILLARY. I SAW HER PRESS CONFERENCE YESTERDAY AND SHE MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS OBAMA THAT WANTS TO DISINFRANCHISE MI AND FL. JUST HAVE TO KEEP THE FAITH!!!;)

emmyCA
03-26-2008, 07:07 AM
EXACTLY! THE DONATIONS, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, ETC... THAT'S OUR VOICE! AND IN NOVEMBER, IF NEED BE.... WE WILL SEND A CLEAR & STRONG MESSAGE JUST AS YOU HAVE OUTLINED ABOVE!!

Vote McCain is the only way to ensure Obama lose and DNC lose the general election.......Let's switch the party to teach DNC , media and Obama a lesson...They cannot win without Hilary supporters!!!!

Ohio mom
03-26-2008, 08:42 AM
Fox news this morning was implying a conspiracy between reid and dean to oust hillary :mad::(

hillary1
03-26-2008, 10:39 AM
Any thoughts on this?

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The Las Vegas Review-Journal's Molly Ball has Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the record seeming to imply that high-level, uncommitted Democrats are ready to tell Hillary to quit the race:

Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?

Reid: Easy.

Q: How is that?

Reid: It will be done.

Q: It just will?

Reid: Yep.

Q: Magically?

Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.

Cryptic. But as I wrote yesterday, the tide is truly changing -- power players such as Reid and Nancy Pelosi are now willing to say on the record that they believe primary campaigning should end after the remaining states have voted and pledged delegates have been allotted. That means things are looking dismal for the Clinton camp, since extending the race indefinitely into a superdelegate fight is their only practical strategy.

--Dana Goldstein

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2008&base_name=harry_reid_it_will_be_done

this should come as no surprise, the democratic party has been trying to squeeze hillary clinton out for some time now, we all know, without michigan and florida voting, hillary will have no chance.

the superdelegates will vote for obama in order to avoid race riots in the streets, but in the end will lose the general election to mccain, that will be inevitable

if i were hillary though, i would take it right to the last primary, and unless something were done with michigan and florida, i would take it to the convention and see if they are seated, turn it into a three ring circus, hopefully delegates will walk out, thereby showing the american public the democrats under pelosi, reid, dean, kennedy, kerry, all losers in their own right, cannot and will not be sustained to bring home a winner

I WILL VOTE HILLARY, IF THE NOMINATION IS NOT THERE, I WILL NOT ONLY VOTE MCCAIN, BUT I WILL CONTRIBUTE, AND VOLUNTEER FOR HIM, AND OBAMA'S RACIST PASTOR, AND OTHERS IN HIS CAMPAIGN, WHO HAVE NOW BLAMED THE JEWS FOR PALESTINE, WILL SEE THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL HAVE VERY DEEP PROBLEMS ELECTING THIS MAN AS PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS DONE A ROYAL SCREWING OF HILLARY CLINTON, AND HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY SAY WITH CONVICTION THAT I AM A DEMOCRAT WITH VALUES, MUST BE ON SOMETHING AS THE SO CALLED ELITIST VOTING FOR OBAMA ARE

THIS COUNTRY HAS RUN OUT OF OPTIONS, THE MORAL DECAY IS ON THE RISE, AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STEM THE TIDE, THEY ARE NOW SHOWING THEIR TRUE COLORS, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT IN WASHINGTON