View Full Version : McCain vindicated, Dodd, Frank and Pelosi have egg on their face
jsdjason
09-29-2008, 03:20 PM
There never was a deal!! John McCain didn't interject presidential politics! He came to Washington last week because this deal was going to fail miserably and now it has thanks to the presidential politics played by the democrats.
Obama's first chance to lead and he fails! Thank you Ted Poe, thank you republican party for sending the Pelosi-Dean lead, radical democrats a message!
freethinker
09-29-2008, 03:27 PM
Go, go Johnnie, go!
CountryFirst
09-29-2008, 03:29 PM
Unfortunately, they're going to spin it that McCain couldn't bring everybody together on this.
I'm just waiting for that.
Everything from the meeting at the White House where Obama attacked the house Republicans to Nancy's speech today has been designed to cast the blame on McCain.
It's all McCain's fault ... They'll spin, spin, spin ...
Tea toaD
09-29-2008, 03:31 PM
Your are right. JM was there so the vultures couldn't feed off the taxpayers un-necessarily.
sadie
09-29-2008, 03:31 PM
Unfortunately, they're going to spin it that McCain couldn't bring everybody together on this.
I'm just waiting for that.
Everything from the meeting at the White House where Obama attacked the house Republicans to Nancy's speech today has been designed to cast the blame on McCain.
It's all McCain's fault ... They'll spin, spin, spin ...
I agree...just waiting for Obama's henchmen to release the statement. McCain needs to jump on this NOW!!! Beat Obama to the punch! However, I heard McCain was encouraging passage of the bill this morning :eek: So he might not say much at all.
BillDemo
09-29-2008, 03:32 PM
We know that's what really happened, but is the media going to report that?
The MSM seems to just promote the lies of Pelosi, Reed, Frank, Dodd, Kerry and Schumer. These people are lying thru their teeth!
I'm at a point where I despise the majority of the Senators in my OWN PARTY.
foxyladi
09-29-2008, 03:35 PM
looks like the dems just dropped the ball.
palosi made the members maaad.:mad::mad:
xj550
09-29-2008, 03:35 PM
It's all McCain's fault ... They'll spin, spin, spin ...
94 dems did not vote for it. Obama needs to get them in line
Horizon
09-29-2008, 03:36 PM
Pelosi getting the blame.Love it!!!
Kbentleyis
09-29-2008, 03:37 PM
Pelosi really pissed off those republicans! Some dems as it seems. Holly crap! They were showing the Pelosi speech and said this is the reason why this didin't pass.
Skylight
09-29-2008, 03:37 PM
The Republicans just went on air and told that this was definitely Pelosi's fault for the failure. Go Republicans!
samkm
09-29-2008, 03:39 PM
It Was The Partisan Statement By Pelosi At The End Of The Debate That Caused That Result.
Speaker had to give a partisan voice that caused the people to vote against.
FAILURE OF THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN INTERJECTING POLITICS.
Pelosi pissed off Republicans. She seems to have pissed off some dems too.
GET HER OUT!!!!
I'm hearing that about 40% of Dems were against the bailout.
Had all the Dems voted together, the Republicans could not have stopped it.
McCain played poker on this one, and let Obama, Pelosi, etc. lose.
A bitter but just victory. There are some good politicians in D.C. afterall!
sadie
09-29-2008, 03:43 PM
The Republicans just went on air and told that this was definitely Pelosi's fault for the failure. Go Republicans!
Wow, they beat Obama to the blame game?? Wonder what he'll say now??
samkm
09-29-2008, 03:43 PM
Yes, there were no Dem votes.. They needed 100% or at least 90% of Dem votes.
Meanwhile, dont forget:
"Call me if you need me.. I'll be giving a campaign speech." said who??? :D:D:D
I'd been listening to the news on TV and just learned from reading HERE that Pelosi caused this to fall through. Now if the whole planet panics, it's Pelosi's fault. :)
Her book was what, "Know Your Power"? haha
samkm
09-29-2008, 03:56 PM
Pelosi SPEWED partisan talk up and down this "negotiation" process and concluded it with her partisan lecture.
Of course, the representatives caught on to that. Even Dems did not like it.
freethinker
09-29-2008, 03:57 PM
Pelosi needs to resign NOW! She is a disgrace. Fleecing of America indeed! Thank you John McCain!!
freethinker
09-29-2008, 03:59 PM
Pelosi and Reid are LIARS! That's why they feel so comfortable with Obama. Peas in a pod. Or acorns in the pouch of Wall Street!!
Laura Cereta
09-29-2008, 03:59 PM
Pelosi needs to resign NOW! She is a disgrace. Fleecing of America indeed! Thank you John McCain!!
Yes, I will accept her resignation, effective immediately! ;)
Christines
09-29-2008, 04:00 PM
Pelosi is a disgrace. She must be thrown out! Obama has been part of this whole mess and none of the MSM will say the truth!
Ca Teacher
09-29-2008, 04:01 PM
Pelosi is speaking now--she seems a bit shaken.
They have hung this failure on her.
ginamc
09-29-2008, 04:02 PM
Unfortunately, they're going to spin it that McCain couldn't bring everybody together on this.
I'm just waiting for that.
Everything from the meeting at the White House where Obama attacked the house Republicans to Nancy's speech today has been designed to cast the blame on McCain.
It's all McCain's fault ... They'll spin, spin, spin ...
They are already spinning it! Tweety Matthews says that JM is not a leader, that he called charged and no one followed, unlike BO.
Well, we must get out there and spin that JM does what is BEST FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Unlike BO who is FIRST AND FAST to stick us with $700 Billion to the American taxpayers!
BLOG BLOG AND MORE BLOGGING REQUIRED!
Ca Teacher
09-29-2008, 04:06 PM
They are already spinning it! Tweety Matthews says that JM is not a leader, that he called charged and no one followed, unlike BO.
Well, we must get out there and spin that JM does what is BEST FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Unlike BO who is FIRST AND FAST to stick us with $700 Billion to the American taxpayers!
BLOG BLOG AND MORE BLOGGING REQUIRED!
LOL before McCain got involved they didn't have Republicans on board and they had a terrible bill. He worked--improved the bill as much as he could (no ACORN) and drummed up enough R support to get it through--
and then Pelosi derailed things by acting in such a partisan manner.
That is how I see it.
Ca Teacher
09-29-2008, 04:07 PM
oh yeah--and Obama? He wasn't even "present" except for an hour or so--and that was only because Bush twisted his arm and MADE him be there. What a sorry excuse for the "leader" of the Dem party.
SadStateOfAffairs
09-29-2008, 04:10 PM
Pelosi and Reid are LIARS! That's why they feel so comfortable with Obama. Peas in a pod. Or acorns in the pouch of Wall Street!!
:D:D:p
kathleen
09-29-2008, 04:11 PM
Barney Frank is speaking blaming guess who.
How did he even get elected?! He speaks like a drunken hobo and resembles one too. But then, how did Pelosi get elected? How did BO get elected...never mind. Cheating explaines that one.
Pelosi SPEWED partisan talk up and down this "negotiation" process and concluded it with her partisan lecture.
Of course, the representatives caught on to that. Even Dems did not like it.
"Even the Dems didn't like it," - I hope that there are many Dems who didn't like the bad-mouthing of McCain by Reid last week and whatever partisan remarks Pelosi made today. She's always preaching this "bi-partisan" line and then does just the opposite - same as Reid - same as BO. Do they really think the American people are stupid enough to not see through them?!! I guess that as long as it appears to work, they will keep it up - but I hope that the polls soon reflect a wisened-up public. C'mon, America! Wake up!!
kathleen
09-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Barney Frank now mocking repubs for being over sensitive putting their hurt feelings above country. Said he will talk very nice to them next time. Reporters laugh.
sadie
09-29-2008, 04:14 PM
They are already spinning it! Tweety Matthews says that JM is not a leader, that he called charged and no one followed, unlike BO.
Um, what? Did the bill pass? NO. Who exactly did BO lead?? What did he do to reach across the aisle and get a bill done that would work for everyone? NOTHING. He did nothing. He kept campaigning and told them to call him if need be. He did NOTHING!!!
Mrsawd
09-29-2008, 04:16 PM
I agree Go John McCain and Republicans show them we are people with heads on are shoulders !
Lealy
09-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Barney Frank is speaking blaming guess who.
How did he even get elected?! He speaks like a drunken hobo and resembles one too. But then, how did Pelosi get elected? How did BO get elected...never mind. Cheating explaines that one.
When he said bring me those 12 Rep who changed their mind because of Pelosi's speech so he could speak nicely to them since they want to put party before country. I think we should take up that challenge. Email Barney and say those that voted no did their jobs and listen to the people they work for and not the people who give them kickbacks.
How did BO get elected...never mind. Cheating explains that one.
Reminder - he hasn't been elected. Don't think that way, and please don't say it - it hurts too much! We have to keep faith and confidence to make sure that doesn't happen!
Here's to John McCain! Hopefully, with serious trouble brewing for the nation, people will be looking more for trusted, courageous, experienced leadership. This may work to his advantage yet!
Linda C
09-29-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm hearing that about 40% of Dems were against the bailout.
Had all the Dems voted together, the Republicans could not have stopped it.
McCain played poker on this one, and let Obama, Pelosi, etc. lose.
A bitter but just victory. There are some good politicians in D.C. afterall!
Wait a minute
This was a republican presidential initiative led by a republican administration. Our country is in a mess right now and the republicans are going to say that Nancy Pelosi insulted their feelings? Can't we have something more intelligent from the republicans about why they voted against the bill instead of Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings?
The Republicans have just lost the election folks unless something real different comes out in between now and November.
Skylight
09-29-2008, 04:27 PM
Wait a minute
This was a republican presidential initiative led by a republican administration. Our country is in a mess right now and the republicans are going to say that Nancy Pelosi insulted their feelings? Can't we have something more intelligent from the republicans about why they voted against the bill instead of Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings?
The Republicans have just lost the election folks unless something real different comes out in between now and November.
I disagree with you totally.
sadie
09-29-2008, 04:31 PM
Wait a minute
This was a republican presidential initiative led by a republican administration. Our country is in a mess right now and the republicans are going to say that Nancy Pelosi insulted their feelings? Can't we have something more intelligent from the republicans about why they voted against the bill instead of Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings?
The Republicans have just lost the election folks unless something real different comes out in between now and November.
I disagree with this too. Many Republicans don't support Bush on the bailout...this plan has been more popular with Democrats thus far. And to say that the Repubs are whining about Pelosi ignores the fact that over 90 House Dems voted against the bailout as well. I think it's fair to ask them what their issue is with this plan, because they are the ones that essentially sunk this (not a bad thing at all, IMO!).
What should be disturbing to Democrats voting for Obama is the fact that Obama, Pelosi, and the like all supported this plan backed unabashedly by the current administration!!
JamieKuuipo
09-29-2008, 04:35 PM
The Dems Killed A Bill In 2005 To Reel In Fannie And Mac.
Presented By John Mccain!!!
The Dems Have The Maj Hello!! 94 Dems Voted Against It!
Hello !!! Mccain New It Was Going To Be A Problem And Went To Wash.
Obama Said Call Me, I Will Phone It In..
Dems New They Did Not Have Enough Votes And Using This As
Photo Op To Bash Repubs....
PELOSI CONTINUED TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL ISSUE BY BASHING BUSH AND REPUBS
PELOSI FAILED TO GET THE BILL TO PASS
RachachaSharon
09-29-2008, 04:35 PM
Pelosi and Reid are LIARS! That's why they feel so comfortable with Obama. Peas in a pod. Or acorns in the pouch of Wall Street!!
A bunch of nut jobs - pun definitely intended!!:D
santafek
09-29-2008, 05:04 PM
Barney Frank now mocking repubs for being over sensitive putting their hurt feelings above country. Said he will talk very nice to them next time. Reporters laugh.
And what about all those Dems. who didn't vote for it either--is he going to talk nice to them?
mjoynaples
09-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Pelosi needs to resign NOW! She is a disgrace. Fleecing of America indeed! Thank you John McCain!!
demand her resignation.... yes yes yes no to PELOSI, OBAMA and YES TO PLAN B!!!!
mjoynaples
09-29-2008, 05:10 PM
Barney Frank now mocking repubs for being over sensitive putting their hurt feelings above country. Said he will talk very nice to them next time. Reporters laugh.
they need to go....................oh big joke... HOPE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE see the crap going on here and VOTE FOR McCAIN PALIN....
SantaCruzen
09-29-2008, 05:11 PM
After the Vote on the Bailout Bill:
The vote followed a day of turmoil in the financial sector.
* Wachovia, the fourth-largest US bank, was bought by larger rival Citigroup in a rescue deal backed by US authorities
* Benelux banking giant Fortis was partially nationalised by the Dutch, Belgian and Luxembourg governments to ensure its survival
* The UK government announced it was nationalising the Bradford & Bingley bank
* Global shares fell sharply - France's key index lost 5%, Germany's main market dropped 4% while US shares plunged after the vote result was announced.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7641733.stm
I am glad the bailout bill failed. I work five days a week, save cash and pay my bills. I did not want to pay for Corporate America's greed
Lisa, Baltimore
Banks being Partially nationalized might be a good thing to monitor and govern the Elitist Banking System.
12counts
09-29-2008, 05:15 PM
Wait a minute
This was a republican presidential initiative led by a republican administration. Our country is in a mess right now and the republicans are going to say that Nancy Pelosi insulted their feelings? Can't we have something more intelligent from the republicans about why they voted against the bill instead of Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings?
The Republicans have just lost the election folks unless something real different comes out in between now and November.
Wrong. We knew last week House Republicans were not in support of this bill. We knew they would barely get forty votes. The GOP leadership managed to drum up about seventy votes.
So all Nancy Pelosi had to do was get all the Democrats to vote for the bill. She couldn't even do that! If she had done that the bill would have passed.
On top of that, she then gets up before the vote and bashes the Republicans. This is not a smart thing to do when trying to garner bipartisan support for an unpopular bill.
So not only did she fail in getting her own caucus to support the bill SHE promoted, she then managed to lose crucial GOP votes as well. What a friggin incompetent idiot!
Once again, Nancy Pelosi fails spectacularly in bipartisanship, leadership, and plain common sense. She has accomplished nothing as Speaker and it is time for her to go.
UGH!
JamieKuuipo
09-29-2008, 05:19 PM
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mrkalbo
09-29-2008, 05:27 PM
Wait a minute
This was a republican presidential initiative led by a republican administration. Our country is in a mess right now and the republicans are going to say that Nancy Pelosi insulted their feelings? Can't we have something more intelligent from the republicans about why they voted against the bill instead of Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings?
The Republicans have just lost the election folks unless something real different comes out in between now and November.
I beg to disagree that it shows Barack's "call me if you need me" style did'nt work.
jsdjason
09-29-2008, 10:17 PM
The bill didn't fail because Nancy Pelosi made a handful of republicans mad. 95 DEMOCRATS REJECTED THE BILL!!! Pelosi is an ineffective leader and so is Obama.
philmwri
09-29-2008, 10:21 PM
At this point i would rather have Republicans take back the House and the Senate because the Democrats think they can get away with doing almost nothing over the past 2 years and being corrupt.:)
philmwri
09-29-2008, 10:25 PM
Harry Reid is trying to make it seem like McCain has nothing to do with the crisis and he wants to make it seem that Obama is the leader of the party.:)
He must be gotten rid off.He is up for re-election in 2012.He is viewed unfavorably by 51% of Nevadans.They hate him too.:)
ILBlue
09-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Reminder - he hasn't been elected. Don't think that way, and please don't say it - it hurts too much! We have to keep faith and confidence to make sure that doesn't happen!
Here's to John McCain! Hopefully, with serious trouble brewing for the nation, people will be looking more for trusted, courageous, experienced leadership. This may work to his advantage yet!
Thank you once again for saying what I'm thinking. :)
ILBlue
09-29-2008, 10:40 PM
Dems could have passed it they are the Majority . They did not want total responsibility for this just hung around their necks before the election if the voters get upset by the bill.
That's why they really, reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly wanted it to be bi-partisan so they both stink of it.
Between Obama ( after all he did take credit for this bill, right? ) and Pelosi the majority of those 95 Dems should have voted for this bill. Or at least enough to get it passed.
Obama failed right along with Pelosi.
Problem is....will the voters see that ?????
jdona
09-29-2008, 10:42 PM
According to Politico, the major Dems blocking the bill were the Hispanic and Black Democrats. The Black Caucus refused to back it. Apparently they didn't feel like bailing out a whole lot of rich folks at the expense of their communities.
Folamix
09-29-2008, 10:50 PM
According to Politico, the major Dems blocking the bill were the Hispanic and Black Democrats. The Black Caucus refused to back it. Apparently they didn't feel like bailing out a whole lot of rich folks at the expense of their communities.
Now that is most interesting
cynthia2
09-29-2008, 10:58 PM
Banks being Partially nationalized might be a good thing to monitor and govern the Elitist Banking System
I don't believe nationalization (socialism) is the answer. I think abolishment of the Fed and a return to some sort of gold backed currency is the answer.
Frances
09-29-2008, 11:03 PM
Well if this crisis would have happened a year ago it probably would have passed. But since so many are up for re-election in 5 weeks, they are singing a different tune!
Charlie Brown
09-29-2008, 11:15 PM
explain to me how Bambi saved the day or even had a say....HE WASNT THERE!!!!!! he says he was on the phone making deals....and we trust this....who can account for the phone call?????? no one....He didnt do shit...Mccain is the one that showed up... The proof is in the pudding....
Mccain experience you can trust!!!!!
Joe from WI
09-29-2008, 11:48 PM
Thats why BO the clown was told by the DEM elders to sit on the issue because he could not help, doesnt know what to do, and if the bailout fails he will get the blame together with the rest of the DEM party.
But in sitting out a crisis or impending crisis for the sake of his political career, this makes him worse than GWB in handling the Katrina crisis. Coz he blames and whines but did not even lift a finger to get engaged and help in anyway.
But in sitting out a crisis or impending crisis for the sake of his political career, this makes him worse than GWB in handling the Katrina crisis. Coz he blames and whines but did not even lift a finger to get engaged and help in anyway.
More proof that BO is more like George Bush than McCain is! Remember the fly-over? - and then BO "phoning it in"....hmmmm.....I suppose a lot of Republicans wouldn't care for that in an ad, however.
Hillarysmygirl08
10-01-2008, 03:00 AM
I always said that Barack Obama and George Bush are the same people.
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