Breaking : Obama And Dnc File Motion For Protective Order To Delay Discovery In Birth Certificate Case

[Power of Palin]

This is the real deal here folks and a legit link from the courthouse. I wonder Why Obama and the DNC are doing this?

BREAKING : OBAMA AND DNC FILE MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER TO DELAY DISCOVERY IN BIRTH CERTIFICATE CASE


Scroll down on the link to Oct 6 where they filed the motion

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SOqDdvvKgsI/AAAAAAAABCs/-fxtW2-XaUU/s1600-h/Lavelle+--+Motion+for+protective+order.bmp

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/

[sarge]

I emailed ameese@mccain08hq.com.

Please everyone, do the same.

I really thought there was nothing to this when it was first filed.

But unless there is something I am completely missing, I see no other reason for BO to not show his COLB other then he doesn't have one.

[AnnaB]

So in other words, they don't have his COLB....and have to figure out the next step. The DNC must pretty stupid right about now.

[Tea toaD]

"If the candidate is eligible under the Constitution" hmm isn't that what Bill Clinton was referring to;)

[Carolyn]

Do we know for certain that the judge has signed off on Berg's request for discovery of documents? Last I heard, the motion had not yet been signed. The document curculating the Internet did not show judge's signature.

[HumbleDave]

Obama is hoping to run out the clock. If the judge can't see this than he's no man supporting the constitutional oath he took.

[Horizon]

"If the candidate is eligible under the Constitution" hmm isn't that what Bill Clinton was referring to;)

One would start to think so!

[Den2006]

At this point if they don't have documentation the DNC is party and knowingly trying to commit fraud on the American People.

[Power of Palin]

Do we know for certain that the judge has signed off on Berg's request for discovery of documents? Last I heard, the motion had not yet been signed. The document curculating the Internet did not show judge's signature.As of yesterday he had not signed and that means that Obamas request to have a protective order on discovery of his Birth Certificate is denied. That is Good news and bad news for Obama because this proves by filing he is hiding something because what he has on his website is obvious a fake Birth Certificate.

[chris.y]

Something is rotten.

[sarge]

"If the candidate is eligible under the Constitution" hmm isn't that what Bill Clinton was referring to;)

Wow.

There really might be something to that!

[Lodi]

I emailed ameese@mccain08hq.com.

Please everyone, do the same.

I really thought there was nothing to this when it was first filed.

But unless there is something I am completely missing, I see no other reason for BO to not show his COLB other then he doesn't have one.

Done.

[Lodi]

"If the candidate is eligible under the Constitution" hmm isn't that what Bill Clinton was referring to;)

Agree. And I'm hoping one of the October surprises is that Bill Clinton quits the Democratic Party, say roundabout mid-October.

And btw, I'm listening to the local CBS station: NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE POLICE RAIDING OF ACORN'S LAS VEGAS OFFICE. I'm going to e-mail them now.

[mondayblues]

This is scary. If Obama wins and then it is eventually found out that he is not qualified to be the President under the consitution, Biden becomes the new President! :eek:

[ivotedforhillary]

This is the real deal here folks and a legit link from the courthouse. I wonder Why Obama and the DNC are doing this?

BREAKING : OBAMA AND DNC FILE MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER TO DELAY DISCOVERY IN BIRTH CERTIFICATE CASE


Scroll down on the link to Oct 6 where they filed the motion

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SOqDdvvKgsI/AAAAAAAABCs/-fxtW2-XaUU/s1600-h/Lavelle+--+Motion+for+protective+order.bmp

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/

rickdavis@johnmccain.com

governor@alaska.gov

info@johnmccain.com

honestelection@mccain08hq.com

sean.hannity@foxnews.com

info@gop.com

Chairman@gop.com

hannity@foxnews.com

[ivotedforhillary]

This is the real deal here folks and a legit link from the courthouse. I wonder Why Obama and the DNC are doing this?

BREAKING : OBAMA AND DNC FILE MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER TO DELAY DISCOVERY IN BIRTH CERTIFICATE CASE


Scroll down on the link to Oct 6 where they filed the motion

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SOqDdvvKgsI/AAAAAAAABCs/-fxtW2-XaUU/s1600-h/Lavelle+--+Motion+for+protective+order.bmp

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/

sounds like GUILT to me!!
looks like they have something to Hide

[SugnSpicesmom]

And btw, I'm listening to the local CBS station: NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE POLICE RAIDING OF ACORN'S LAS VEGAS OFFICE. I'm going to e-mail them now.

Juli, surely this doesn't surprise you, does it? They are just as bad here in Vegas as everywhere else. There was a guy from the LV Sun at the McCain HQ today interviewing people (NY Gov. Pataki was there for awhile) and I KNOW he saw my "Democrats for McCain" and "Women for Hillary" buttons. He saw me from across the room and was staring right at them (and I know he wasn't looking at my non-existent boobs). Then he came over and sat down right next to me and interviewed the guy one seat over. I tried talking to him and he COMPLETELY ignored me. Asswipe!!!! Asshat!!!! Dickweed!!!! Faux-journalist!!!

[Power of Palin]

rickdavis@johnmccain.com

governor@alaska.gov

info@johnmccain.com

honestelection@mccain08hq.com

sean.hannity@foxnews.com

info@gop.com

Chairman@gop.com

hannity@foxnews.comDid you email the findings to all those addresses?

[Charlie Brown]

Agree. And I'm hoping one of the October surprises is that Bill Clinton quits the Democratic Party, say roundabout mid-October.

And btw, I'm listening to the local CBS station: NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE POLICE RAIDING OF ACORN'S LAS VEGAS OFFICE. I'm going to e-mail them now.

OMG Julianne do you think that is possible...This would be so great...I wish Hillary would also...But Im not greedy Bill will do...;)

[ivotedforhillary]

Did you email the findings to all those addresses?

I am about to, we all should, it will have more impact!
I spend hours emailing information, every day!

[sarge]

rickdavis@johnmccain.com

governor@alaska.gov

info@johnmccain.com

honestelection@mccain08hq.com

sean.hannity@foxnews.com

info@gop.com

Chairman@gop.com

hannity@foxnews.com

I hit all of them!

[marc]

just emailed them all

[Power of Palin]

Thank you for emailing them everyone.

[Destiny]

I sent this information to Senator Dianne Feinstein and Senator Barbara Boxer and asked them to go public with this information because, they know about the lawsuit and it will come out that they knew about it and hid it from California voters. I said "do the right thing and be a hero for us Californians and speak about this lawsuit in the media".

Cowards - all of them.


No Obama - Never

[Carolyn]

This is scary. If Obama wins and then it is eventually found out that he is not qualified to be the President under the consitution, Biden becomes the new President! :eek:

Section 3 of the 20th Amendment provides that if, on Inauguration Day, the President-elect does not qualify for the presidency, the Vice President acts as president until a president is chosen or the President-elect qualifies. Finally, Section 3 allows the Congress to provide by law for cases in which neither a President-elect nor a Vice President-elect is eligible or available to serve.

This suggests Biden would serve "until a President is chosen," until Congress has "provided by law" the terms by which a new president would be chosen. Or am I being optimistic here?

[Molly]

The DNC and obama gang have a plan - he hopes to win the election - and the whole birth certificate issue will explode. He will then ask congress - (which is DEMS) to amend the constitution to include candidates with dual citizenship. He will get this to pass all in time to be sworn in by January. He will argue that he did win the election - so the American people must want him - and to cover the shame from the DNC and election officials for not investigating this years ago (US Senator??) - they will pass it.
Where the hell is the media and our elected officials on this?????

[Molly]

Agree. And I'm hoping one of the October surprises is that Bill Clinton quits the Democratic Party, say roundabout mid-October.

And btw, I'm listening to the local CBS station: NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE POLICE RAIDING OF ACORN'S LAS VEGAS OFFICE. I'm going to e-mail them now.
It was reported on the nightly news ABC - Charlie.

[Got Angelou]

Same here... emailed the list.

Amazing how tense I felt while *begging* some form of response from these folks. Not producing a vault copy of the COB is the singular issue with which I find Obama's candidacy most offensive.

And to think Hillary was pushed out for this... <sigh>

[Bad Kitty]

Something is rotten.

....and it smells like ACORNs.

[TexasFlower]

OMG Julianne do you think that is possible...This would be so great...I wish Hillary would also...But Im not greedy Bill will do...;)


Oh cripes. If that happened I might have a heart attack. That might be a little too pie-in-the-sky. How would Hillary ever hope to get the Dem nomination in 2012 if Bill did that?

But still - it's a fun dream. :p

[Charlie Brown]

Oh cripes. If that happened I might have a heart attack. That might be a little too pie-in-the-sky. How would Hillary ever hope to get the Dem nomination in 2012 if Bill did that?

But still - it's a fun dream. :p

If Obama gets in there will be no 2012 and if they leave the party and save the country they will be able to go Indy and take All their money backers plus 18 million PUMAS with them for starters...It would be a Brilliant move IMO....

[hipelayne]

Juli, surely this doesn't surprise you, does it? They are just as bad here in Vegas as everywhere else. There was a guy from the LV Sun at the McCain HQ today interviewing people (NY Gov. Pataki was there for awhile) and I KNOW he saw my "Democrats for McCain" and "Women for Hillary" buttons. He saw me from across the room and was staring right at them (and I know he wasn't looking at my non-existent boobs). Then he came over and sat down right next to me and interviewed the guy one seat over. I tried talking to him and he COMPLETELY ignored me. Asswipe!!!! Asshat!!!! Dickweed!!!! Faux-journalist!!!


LOL! You intimidated him ....... he wanted to talk to you badly, but was afraid he would be embarrassed.

[APS1956]

The DNC and obama gang have a plan - he hopes to win the election - and the whole birth certificate issue will explode. He will then ask congress - (which is DEMS) to amend the constitution to include candidates with dual citizenship. He will get this to pass all in time to be sworn in by January. He will argue that he did win the election - so the American people must want him - and to cover the shame from the DNC and election officials for not investigating this years ago (US Senator??) - they will pass it.
Where the hell is the media and our elected officials on this?????


One serious problem with this. Congress would have to amend the Constitution. They would have to pass an amendment then have 34 states aprrove it. By the time the states got around to it, it would be 2012. When was the last amendment added and how long did that take. Not going to happen.

[Horizon]

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[Horizon]

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[Centipede]

I sent this information to Senator Dianne Feinstein and Senator Barbara Boxer and asked them to go public with this information because, they know about the lawsuit and it will come out that they knew about it and hid it from California voters.

In case you weren't aware, Berg amended the lawsuit to include Diane Feinstein. There's no way she's going to talk about it.

[Horizon]

Feinstein.How could she support Obama??? WTF is wrong with her???

[Coach]

I am a lawyer (besides being a coach). If Mr. Berg really wanted the most essential information produced quickly, he should have put more thought into his request. He just set it up for Obama and the DNC to win a "protective order."

For example, Berg has requested that Obama be required to produce (within 10 days) not only his US Birth Certificate, but also any and all registrations of birth from 3 other countries, all of his passport records, including application and travel logs, all of his adoption records, a certified copy of the US Oath of Allegiance required to regain U.S. citizenship, a copy of Obama's FBI background check, his application for a social security number, and numerous other documents.

Produce all this in 10 days? That's not reasonable. If Berg had limited his first request to Obama's birth certificates he would have had a much better case. You have to have them to apply for a passport, so they can usually be produced quickly without imposing an undue burden on anyone.

Berg has also requested many other categories of documents be produced in 20 days, including:

1. all of Obama's college and law school applications
2. all of his requests for financial aid
3. All of his college and law school papers
4. a copy of his entire presidential file pertaining to being vetted
5. all documents in the possession of the DNC relating to Obama
6. All of his essays about his life
7. a detailed list and copies of membership of all clubs, organizations, etc. Obama belonged to.

The DNC and Obama may have something to hide, but Berg has made it a whole lot easier for them to do so.

[sarge]

shouldn't there be some ruling any day now?

PS: I'm not getting my hopes up!

[kkforhillary]

send this to mccain campaign so they can make ad that should be shown in virginia where people are anti war:

douche bag obama lies after lies. why cant mccain stand up to his face and tell he was not even in US senate when the war was authorized. obama keeps bragging he never voted for the war in the first place when he wasn't in the US senate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rs1iqexYh4&eurl=http://www.nobama.tv/page37/page37.html

[BooskerD]

Heh. Finally, something comes along that may have some teeth to it! If there's nothing to hide, why file an order of protection to prevent discovery?

[foxyladi]

"If the candidate is eligible under the Constitution" hmm isn't that what Bill Clinton was referring to;)

thanks big dawg....:eek::eek:

[Mrsawd]

Shouldn't there be a way that Papers can be submitted to the court to make obama and all prove now because of the crisis that is effecting the world and how eminent that this information is to our Country ! This is discusting that they are trying to prevent the truth from coming out !


This is vital information that our country neds to know now and the facts of all the lies deceptions and fraud should have an over weight being on this case because He is breaking every rule that this Country is allowing him to get away with !

Time is of the essance !

[Frances]

What are the DNC his parents?...........are they named in the proceedings? Didn't think so, it is Barack Hussein Obama.........(also his other names).... You can bet your last dollar bill he's hiding something! Why does he not come clean on this.....like everything else, Rev. Wright, Ayers, everything comes after the primary, and now they want it to come out after the general election.

Lord forbid if he should be elected, if we thought we've had enough of coverups...wait
for the ONE!

[sarge]

Anyone know when the judge is suppose to rule by?

I though Berg said it would be 5 days. He said that some time last week I thought.

[ModerateRepublican]

The DNC and obama gang have a plan - he hopes to win the election - and the whole birth certificate issue will explode. He will then ask congress - (which is DEMS) to amend the constitution to include candidates with dual citizenship. He will get this to pass all in time to be sworn in by January. He will argue that he did win the election - so the American people must want him - and to cover the shame from the DNC and election officials for not investigating this years ago (US Senator??) - they will pass it.
Where the hell is the media and our elected officials on this?????

That wouldn't work. You can't amend the constitution with simple majority. An amendment requires 2/3 vote in both houses (hundreds more votes than the bailout which failed initially) THEN must be ratified by 3/4 (dozens of red states) of the states. One state legislature short and the proposed change dies.

No IF (and this is big IF) the DNC knows Obama is invalid they are waiting to delay until he is sworn in. If next day courts ruled against him Biden (who got 0.9% of the vote in primary) would become President and DNC/Congress would select new VP.

[ModerateRepublican]

What are the DNC his parents?...........are they named in the proceedings?

Yes Berg names the DNC and Obama as separate defendants.

[Roberto Bear]

What do we say in the email to the folks on the list???

[Bets1]

Tuesday, October 7, 2008
Berg v. Obama Update -- Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Intervening Party Filings, and Possible Media Attention

Today, a fairly litigious intervening party named T.B. Bradley filed a pair of motions in conjunction with Philip Berg's case against Barack Obama in Federal Court in Philadelphia. The first motion, a motion to intervene, was better-constructed than the previous intervening motion filed by a gentleman from California, and stated many of the same allegations as did Phil Berg...


In the meantime, I heard from one of my contacts here at the courthouse that she received a telephone call from a "very interested" reporter at the Washington Post. I have no doubt that certain folks in the mainstream press have been keeping an eye on the case -- this leads me to believe (again, I cannot know for certain) that an order from Judge Surrick will likely spark a little bit of media interest. On that front, we'll see...

As for that order, as of right now--3:51 p.m. on Tuesday --there is nothing from Judge Surrick. I have a completely unsubstantiated hunch that we'll see something in the next few days, possibly an order addressing all four pending motions. Again, it's just a hunch -- we'll see.

Posted by Jeff Schreiber

America's Right (http://www.americasright.com/)

[HumbleDave]

The judge needs to get off his ass and get this moving.

[Agent 00½ FL]

Just for comparison sake, I recently applied for a job. I had to undergo a background check and drug testing. I received a letter today including the following:

Please note that all employees are required to complete an I-9 form “Verification of Citizenship” upon hire. Attached is a list of acceptable identification that you will need to present to us within three days of your hire date. Original documents are the only acceptable proof. If you do not have the documents necessary to certify your citizenship in your possession, please make arrangements to obtain them now. (For example, if you need to have a new social security card issued, it will take 10 to 15 working days for the new card to be processed after filing the request with the Social Security Office).

This is acceptable proof:

LISTS OF ACCEPTABLE DOCUMENTS
Employees are required to present either one of the documents from List A or one of the following documents from List B and one of the documents from List C.

List A (Documents that establish both identity and employment eligibility)

• United States Passport
• Permanent Resident Card or Alien Registration Receipt Card (I-551)
• Temporary Resident Card (I-688)
• Employment Authorization Document (I-766, I-688B, or I-688A)
• Foreign Passport with temporary I-551 stamp
• For aliens authorized to work only for a specific employer, foreign passport with Form I-94 authorizing employment with this employer

List B (Documents that establish identity only)
• Driver's license issued by a state or outlying possession
• ID card issued by a state or outlying possession
• Native American tribal document
• Canadian driver's license or ID card with a photograph
(for Canadian aliens authorized to work only for a specific employer)
• School ID card with a photography
• Voter's registration card
• U.S. Military card or draft record
• Miltary dependent's ID Card

List C (Documents that establish employment eligibility only)

• Social Security account number card without employment restrictions
• Original or certified copy of a birth certificate with an official seal issued by a state or local government agency
• Certification of Birth Abroad
• US Citizen ID Card
• Native American tribal document
• Form I-94 authorizing employment with this employer (for aliens authorized to work only for a specific employer)

How is it that someone can be running for President and not have to prove citizenship!

[IndyPUMA]

Get your updates here.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

[Destiny]

If the judge favors Obama/DNC in this lawsuit, it will be because he is being paid off by the millions of dollars that Obama is generating for this very reason. You can only imagine how many people have been given 'thank you' money. I think CNN has been given money by the Obama campaign.

OBAMA = CORRUPTION

NO OBAMA - NEVER

P.U.M.A.

[Adayamo]

@Destiny:
You are probably right, and that worries me! :(

[RickKS]

I was doing some unrelated research on adoption and came across an idea that I do not recall being brought up on this blog. I think that it is highly probable that Obama is in possession of a valid Hawaii Birth Certificate.

The following scenario seems to be the only way to change a birth record....

1. Obama was issued a birth certificate from Hawaii when born (The name on the certificate is not relevant)

2. Obama was adopted by Soetoro and was issued a new birth certificate under the name Barry Soetoro. The original Birth record is sealed. (His Mother or Grandmother may have retained an original certified copy though)

3. As an adult Obama could have petitioned for an "annulment of adoption" in his situation he would have the grounds. At this time his birth record for Barry Soetoro would be sealed and a new birth record and certificate would be issued under the name Barack Obama. (He may still be in possession of a certified copy of the Barry Soetoro certificate though) From my limited research I do not find that an investigation is carried out to determine if the adult is even still a US citizen or has duel citizenship.

An adoptee by having an adoption annulled can literally make a past identity disappear. All records are sealed, even the record of annulment. (The birth certificate would be in a modern format at this point and not in the same format as the original)

Also it appears that there is leeway in the state of Hawaii as to what information the adult wants listed on the New Certificate.

This is where I started

http://www.geocities.com/annuladoptions/howtoannulanadoption.html
---snip---
"Finally, there is the category of adoptees wishing to annul their adoption in order to regain their birth identity. An example of a successful attack of this nature is documented at www.adoption-fraud.com. This Web site was created by Michael Chalek.
Several points need to be made about how to go about annulling an adoption procedure. It is important to note, that upon completion of a successful procedure, that confidentiality ends. Therefore, either before, or during the procedure, a reunion must have taken place between the adoptee and his parents. Furthermore, as in all civil proceedings, input from all living parties to the original hearing must be available to the Judge. This means that both adopters, and both parents must be found and apprised of the proceeding, if they are still alive. The courts might also wish to contact the lawyers involved in the original proceeding, if they are still alive, although in practice this seems to be more formality then necessity."

[LadyVT]

Yes, CNN is being paid by the Obama campaign.

ADVERTISING dollars. Big ones. Biggest in history.

[Centipede]

Remember that Berg is not only asking for his "vault" Birth Certificate. He's also requesting his Oath of Allegiance and Certification of Citizenship. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii and has the birth certificate, it doesn't mean he is currently a US citizen. If he didn't take the Oath of Allegiance when he turned 18 or there abouts, he would be an illegal alien.

While Berg does mention Obama may have been born in Kenya, it's more probable that he would get him on the Indonesia citizenship thing.

[Adayamo]

The judge has to hurry up!

[Eddie3dfx]

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

[HeatherL]

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

Digg: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/BERG_v_OBAMA_et_al