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WV4Hillary
10-26-2008, 03:22 AM
Replace:

Truman = McCain
Dewey = Obama
Republican Controlled Congress = Democrat Controlled Congress
Republican = Democrat and vice versa

Given Truman's sinking popularity and the seemingly fatal three-split in the Democratic Party, Dewey appeared unbeatable. Top Republicans believed that all their candidate had to do to win was to avoid major mistakes; in keeping with this advice, Dewey carefully avoided risks. He spoke in platitudes, avoided controversial issues, and was vague on what he planned to do as President. Speech after speech was filled with non-political, optimistic assertions of the obvious, including the now infamous quote “You know that your future is still ahead of you.” An editorial in The (Louisville) Courier-Journal summed it up best: “No presidential candidate in the future will be so inept that four of his major speeches can be boiled down to these historic four sentences: Agriculture is important. Our rivers are full of fish. You cannot have freedom without liberty. Our future lies ahead.” Truman, trailing in the polls, decided to adopt a slashing, no-holds-barred campaign. He ridiculed Dewey by name, criticized Dewey's refusal to address specific issues, and scornfully targeted the Republican-controlled 80th Congress with a wave of relentless, and blistering, partisan assaults. He nicknamed the Republican-controlled Congress as the "do-nothing" Congress, a remark which brought strong criticism from GOP Congressional leaders (such as Senator Taft), but no comment from Dewey. In fact, Dewey rarely mentioned Truman's name during the campaign, which fit into his strategy of appearing to be above petty partisan politics.


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Truman simply ignored the fact that Dewey's policies were considerably more liberal than most of his fellow Republicans, and instead he concentrated his fire against the conservative, obstructionist tendencies of the unpopular 80th Congress. For his part, Dewey remained aloof. Following the advice of his campaign staff, he did not respond directly to Truman's attacks. This would prove to be a major mistake.

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Truman toured -- and transfixed -- much of the nation with his fiery rhetoric, playing to large, enthusiastic crowds. “Give 'em hell, Harry,” was a popular slogan shouted out at stop after stop along the tour. However, the polls and the pundits all held that Dewey's lead was insurmountable, and that Truman's efforts were for naught. Indeed, Truman's own staff considered the campaign a last hurrah. The only person who appears to have considered Truman's campaign to be winnable was the President himself, who confidently predicted victory to anyone and everyone who would listen to him. However, even Truman's own wife had private doubts that her husband could win.

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In the final weeks of the campaign, American movie theatres agreed to play two short newsreel-like campaign films in support of the two major-party candidates; each film had been created by its respective campaign organization. The Dewey film, shot professionally on an impressive budget, featured very high production values, but somehow reinforced an image of the New York governor as cautious and distant. The Truman film, hastily assembled on virtually no budget by the perpetually cash-short Truman campaign, relied heavily on public-domain and newsreel footage of the President taking part in major world events and signing important legislation. Perhaps unintentionally, the Truman film visually reinforced an image of the President as engaged and decisive.

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On election night - November 2 - Dewey, his family, and campaign staff confidently gathered in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City to await the returns. Truman, aided by the Secret Service, sneaked away from reporters covering him in Kansas City and made his way to nearby Excelsior Springs, Missouri, a small resort town. There he took a room in the local hotel, had a Turkish bath, and went to sleep. As the returns came in Truman took an early lead which he never lost. However, the leading radio commentators, such as H. V. Kaltenborn of NBC, confidently predicted that once the "late returns" came in Dewey would overcome Truman's lead and win. At midnight, Truman awoke and turned on the radio in his room; he heard Kaltenborn announce that, while Truman was still ahead in the popular vote, he couldn't possibly win. Around 4 a.m. Truman awoke again, heard on the radio that his lead was nearly two million votes, and decided to ride back to Kansas City. For the rest of his life Truman would gleefully mimic Kaltenborn's voice predicting his defeat throughout that election night. Dewey, meanwhile, realized that he was in trouble when early returns from New York and New England showed him running well behind his expected vote total. He stayed up throughout the night examining the votes as they came in. By 10:30 the next morning he was convinced that he had lost; he then sent a gracious telegram of concession to Truman.


...Sound familiar?

CountryFirst
10-26-2008, 03:39 AM
Sounds good to me :D

Eeery parallels, don't ya think???

JamieKuuipo
10-26-2008, 03:41 AM
Bring It On You Know Obama Stuff Is All Hype And No Truth

Just Lots Of Money!!!

CognitiveDissonance
10-26-2008, 03:49 AM
OMG! That whole section describing how Dewey ran his campaign sounds so much like Obama! I'll take this article as a good omen, especially since McCain has mentioned the Truman/Dewey race a number of times in his campaign speeches.

pagirl4sarah&hillary
10-26-2008, 04:20 AM
:D history will repeat itself

Ikasu
10-26-2008, 04:22 AM
just little bits of history repeating

Skylight
10-26-2008, 04:24 AM
:D history will repeat itself
Yes it will!

lynfreedom
10-26-2008, 05:28 AM
that was the one. I was trying to remember yesterday who they mentioned on pbs. They were discussing whether McCain this far behind could win and they all agreed it was difficult but could be done. IOne of them said it hasn't been done, the onye one that had been that far behind was many years ago ...and I couldn't remember..thought it was Truman.

Anyway he said Truman and we all know how that came out. So it is possible.

Kbentleyis
10-26-2008, 05:32 AM
Yes, this is exactly how it went. I think it was the Chicago Tribune that ran the story that Dewy won the presidency. Anyhow, what is never mentioned, and I feel like I'm telling stories out of school, but Truman could cuss like nobody's business. If he didn't like someone, he had no problem calling them a SOB, even with news media writing as fast as they could.

Truman was one of a kind and will never be another, I expect. During WWII, he personally traveled the country making sure no one (big business) was profiting off the war. You were a patriot, or your services were not needed for the government. He probably would have had Halliburton (sp) CEOs up for treason!

Even JFK as president, I always thought that there was no other president in the White House. That's how much I admired Truman. McCain kind of reminds me of him, except he would have verbably call BHO a lying SOB without a second thought. And, be the day someone would have the nerve to call Truman a racist!! No there was never a president like him again. And, you know what? He loved his Bess, no rumors or cheating on his wife. He had moral standards.

Mrs L
10-26-2008, 08:14 AM
They had the newspapers printed with


DEWEY WINS in huge headlines.

Truman is the one who said "if it it too hot then get out of the kitchen"

Once, when his daughter Margaret, who sang, was panned by the media for a concert she gave, he blew up and called them down on it.

He was not a big man in physical size but like John McCain he was a giant.

Debi/CA
10-26-2008, 09:02 AM
I've thought about this famous photo several times lately---the one of Truman holding the "Dewey Defeats Truman" newspaper:

http://members.aol.com/ondinemonet/images/dewey%20wins.jpg

I've also been thinking about the 2000 election, and how all the major networks announced that Gore had won Florida several hours before the polls closed in Florida.

At the time, I was upset (along with other Republicans), that the strongly conservative panhandle on the west side of Florida wouldn't bother going to the polls, because the networks had already announced that Gore had won the State.

As you remember, of course, Florida ended up changing colors more than once during that same evening, even before the ensuing two-month fiasco that followed. (We won't get into that here.)

My point is: HOW DO WE KEEP THE MSM FROM CALLING STATES FOR OBAMA BEFORE THE POLLS CLOSE; THEREBY, SUPPRESSING VOTER TURNOUT FOR McCAIN? We all know they'll do it if they can get away with it.

Even though the MSM made a point to not call an early winner for any States during 2004, I don't trust them when it comes to Obama.

We need to warn people--especially the elderly in Florida--if you know anyone in that State (which I don't.)

reddirtgirl
10-26-2008, 09:14 AM
Holy Toledo! That's as eery as the whole Kennedy/Johnson/Lincoln thing.

Pray God history repeats itself!!

Mrs L
10-26-2008, 09:19 AM
It was Ohio who did Kerry and Edwards in.

WV4Hillary
10-26-2008, 11:27 AM
Yup. It's following the same path.

I hope there's a picture of McCain holding up the Chicago Tribune "Obama Defeats McCain" after he wins.

foxyladi
10-26-2008, 12:35 PM
Bring It On You Know Obama Stuff Is All Hype And No Truth

Just Lots Of Money!!!

he thinks our votes are for sale......silly wabbit.......

Mrsawd
10-26-2008, 12:40 PM
Can we Call Him Obama Dewey ?

12counts
10-26-2008, 12:54 PM
The one thing Truman did that McCain hasn't is make this a referendum on the do-nothing Democratic Congress. I wish he had done so.

Regardless, I still think McCain will win.

kathleen
10-26-2008, 05:19 PM
The one thing Truman did that McCain hasn't is make this a referendum on the do-nothing Democratic Congress. I wish he had done so.

Regardless, I still think McCain will win.

Actually, McCain did say something similar. Here's to repeating favorable history!

NileQT87
10-26-2008, 05:27 PM
The race also reminds me of Dwight D. Eisenhower vs. Adlai Stevenson in terms of the personalities and backgrounds of the two candidates.

Cooney
10-26-2008, 05:27 PM
Spookingly similar. History will repeat itself again.

WV4Hillary
10-26-2008, 06:10 PM
Lol, something else I didn't notice.

"However, the leading radio commentators, such as H. V. Kaltenborn of NBC, confidently predicted that once the "late returns" came in Dewey would overcome Truman's lead and win."

NBC biased in favor of the other candidate!? lol now that's just TOOO eerie.


" At midnight, Truman awoke and turned on the radio in his room; he heard Kaltenborn announce that, while Truman was still ahead in the popular vote, he couldn't possibly win."


Kaltenborn = Keith Olbermann's ancestor.