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kjcanon
10-26-2008, 02:03 PM
This is very disturbing... As we all know, voter registration fraud is happening nation wide. It's everywhere. It started in the caucuses, and hasn't let up yet. They're registering dead people, mickey mouse, the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys... you name it. But, I've been asking myself this question all along - What's the point in registering all of these names/people, if the voter rosters on election day are going to force those very same people to be assigned a "provisional" ballot at their precincts? And why all the rush to vote early? To avoid long lines? That sounds reasonable. To avoid a possible chance of not making it in time on election day to the polling place (i.e., accident or family emergency, bad weather, road blocks, or whatever)? Ok, that sounds reasonable too, right? Well, apparently, there's ANOTHER reason that people are NOT wising up to... a secret that the democrats DON'T want the "mean ol' evil republicans" to figure out. (Trouble is, they already DID.)

All of this concern about fraud prompted me to also vote early, so that I, in turn, could sign up to be a poll watcher for the republican party. (I felt I had to do SOMETHING, right?) I went to a poll watching training session yesterday, which was very informative. Here's what the polling folks are trained to look for at the precinct's voter sign-in table in TEXAS:

If there is a discrepancy between the ID and the List of Registered Voters, determine which of the following situations applies and follow the steps to resolve it.
Registration Issues:
Situation #5: Expired Voter Registration Certificate
Situation #6: Name Not on the List of Registered Voters
Situation #7: Incorrect Precinct on the Registration Certificate
Situation #8: No Evidence of Registration
Early Voting Issues:
Situation #10: Early Voting Cancellation
Situation #11: Notice of Defective Delivery
Residency Issues:
Situation #3: Voter Moved
ID Issues:
Situation #2: No Voter Registration Certificate
Situation #4: First Time Voter without a Texas Driver's License or Social Security Number
Situation # 9: No ID

All of the above situations require an ID. What caught my attention was "Situation #9". It states as follows:
Provisional Voter:
A voter who cannot produce acceptable ID may vote a Provisional Ballot, but it will not be counted. Generally, the following two categories of voters may vote a provisional ballot:
#1 - Voter with no ID
#2 - Voter not on the List of Registered Voters and not confirmed by the Voter Registrar.
* Have the voter complete the "Provisional Voter Affidavit". (a copy of this form goes to the DA's office, they told me)
* In the Poll List next to the voter's name, indicate the voter was accepted as a provisional voter.
* Provide the voter with the "Notice to Provisional Voter" which explains the provisional process to the voter. Tell the voter that the Voter Registrar will investigate their situation and that they will be notified as to whether or not their ballot was counted, and why or why not.
* Have the voter sign the Signature Roster.
* Enter the voter's name on the List of Provisional Voters.
* Direct the voter to pick up a ballot marked "provisional" and proceed to the voting area.
*Direct the voter to put his/her paper provisional ballot into the white secrecy envelope and seal it before putting it in the ballot box.

Provisional ballots are specifically designated as such, to flag the ballot, and call it to the attention of election officials, for possible invalid information, or worse - FRAUD. (i.e., stuffing the ballot box!) THEY ARE NOT COUNTED AMONG THE REST OF BALLOTS. (This very thing is what the democrats are all up-in-arms about, as you will soon see. Keep reading...)

I finish the training yesterday, and come away thinking to myself, "Cool. Safeguards for fraud are in place. No need to worry". WRONG. A little voice in my head told me to keep digging. Why the push by ACORN to register so many freaking people? WHY?? Is it a simple numbers game to them? And why the push for early voting? I did a little google search on "provisional ballots, and fraud" in the search window. It didn't take me long to get my answer...

The folks over at MSNBC have been very busy, along with good ol' Bobby Kennedy Jr himself! This video may have already been posted before, but it bears watching again. Go to the 8:00 mark! Here we have Robert F Kennedy Jr - The nephew of an AMERICAN PRESIDENT - basically telling voters to CHEAT, by instructing them, "Don't accept the provisional ballots!"

YouTube - Rachel Maddow & Robert Kennedy Steal back your vote!!

Wow... Just wow.

Another link I stumbled on to in my google search, was this movie promoted by Rolling Stone (http://www.gregpalast.com/sbyv/download-the-movie.html) from the site, "http://stealbackyourvote.org/". Funny website name huh? "Steal"?

Apparently, to democrats, it's ok let convicted felons vote? It's also ok for them to vote twice, or more? If provisional ballots are NOT used, whats to keep these same people from "poll hopping" to several counties??? These guys just don't get it.

Bottom line? Provisional Ballots are hopefully going to save us from potential fraud, but it could get VERY DICEY on Nov 5th. Thankfully, the state of TEXAS (by historical data) has always been a republican state. The democrats, however, are trying to CHEAT the system at a national level, to win at all cost. We've already seen it happen in the primaries, and are STILL waiting for the authorities to prosecute these thugs!

My challange to all of you: Do what I did. Go to your election offices in YOUR countys/states and demand to know how they will be handling these types of situations. MAKE SURE THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS to protect this election from the unthinkable. :mad:

ggreen
10-26-2008, 02:13 PM
I was the presiding judge for our precinct in 2004. We did a lot of provisional ballots which was very strange for a relatively stable little suburban precinct. If a doubt existed about a person's eligibility, I would give them a provisional ballot. (A provisional ballot at the time was a remedy to ensure all effort was made to include the voter and not merely dismiss him/her outright.) In most cases I actually thought they were ineligible, but thought it best to err on the side of allowing them to cast some kind of ballot. I did read later that most were excluded. This made sense, because if no irregularity had existed, they would have been in the normal voting rolls. Your post is revealing in why the DNC is working to avoid provisional ballots.

The other theory I've heard is that ACORN seeks to turn in all of it's fraudulent registrations because it knows that will tie up the county elections boards with so much work, bad ballots are bound to slip through. Given the numbers of suspicious registrations here in Ohio and elsewhere, this seems plausible.
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ILBlue
10-26-2008, 02:17 PM
The very short time I was able to get to NQ this a.m I read a comment with the warning::

That Obama campaign has encouraged their supporters that have voted early to still go out on Election Day and create havoc at the polls to slow the lines down and discourage others from voting .

This should be on every MSM headline story!

And I use to Greatly admire Bobby Kennedy Jr. I don't know what has happened to him. It just makes me sick to my stomach to think how even he has changed. He was in my mind an honorable man like his father.:mad:

kathleen
10-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Wow! Good work on piecing this together.

I am just sick about this. You know what? I don't think I can ever rejoin the democratic party again. Ever. This is the deal breaker for me. It made me accept, at long last, there is no going back. Way too much corruption that can never be fully purged. I'm not getting my party back.

The best I can hope for is that a new party, a reformed party, rises from the ashes and will not allow its members to be Obamafied or Pelosified again.

From what I'm hearing, the repubs are going through the same thing with their party.

Maybe it's time to cast off both parties and form a bi-partisan party called the American bi-partisan party. Or the Country Firsters. Or an official PUMA party. The repubs and Bush have always been a turn off to me because of their narrowmindedness. Up until I discovered something far worse. The dem party with Obama and Pelosi at the head. They've been downright un-American to the point of treason.

lynfreedom
10-26-2008, 02:41 PM
it is going to be a Obama challenge if he does not win everywhere

peachick
10-26-2008, 02:44 PM
I have been wondering if all these bogus registered are an attempt to cause mass confusion and when not counted the dems will have grounds for a law suite and claim....fraud because the were not counted. Here again claiming that they were "cheated again." The method I'Ve seen over and over again with the ob camp is to do something and then accuse the other guy of doing it.

Mrsawd
10-26-2008, 02:49 PM
Maybe some one should send this to fox excellent work !

lanesharon
10-26-2008, 02:59 PM
Passing it all on to my Mom. She has worked at the polls.

xfiles
10-26-2008, 03:02 PM
Do a print out for yourself and to give to the precinct captains, poll watchers, etc.


This is very disturbing... As we all know, voter registration fraud is happening nation wide. It's everywhere. It started in the caucuses, and hasn't let up yet. They're registering dead people, mickey mouse, the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys... you name it. But, I've been asking myself this question all along - What's the point in registering all of these names/people, if the voter rosters on election day are going to force those very same people to be assigned a "provisional" ballot at their precincts? And why all the rush to vote early? To avoid long lines? That sounds reasonable. To avoid a possible chance of not making it in time on election day to the polling place (i.e., accident or family emergency, bad weather, road blocks, or whatever)? Ok, that sounds reasonable too, right? Well, apparently, there's ANOTHER reason that people are NOT wising up to... a secret that the democrats DON'T want the "mean ol' evil republicans" to figure out. (Trouble is, they already DID.)

All of this concern about fraud prompted me to also vote early, so that I, in turn, could sign up to be a poll watcher for the republican party. (I felt I had to do SOMETHING, right?) I went to a poll watching training session yesterday, which was very informative. Here's what the polling folks are trained to look for at the precinct's voter sign-in table in TEXAS:



All of the above situations require an ID. What caught my attention was "Situation #9". It states as follows:


Provisional ballots are specifically designated as such, to flag the ballot, and call it to the attention of election officials, for possible invalid information, or worse - FRAUD. (i.e., stuffing the ballot box!) THEY ARE NOT COUNTED AMONG THE REST OF BALLOTS. (This very thing is what the democrats are all up-in-arms about, as you will soon see. Keep reading...)

I finish the training yesterday, and come away thinking to myself, "Cool. Safeguards for fraud are in place. No need to worry". WRONG. A little voice in my head told me to keep digging. Why the push by ACORN to register so many freaking people? WHY?? Is it a simple numbers game to them? And why the push for early voting? I did a little google search on "provisional ballots, and fraud" in the search window. It didn't take me long to get my answer...

The folks over at MSNBC have been very busy, along with good ol' Bobby Kennedy Jr himself! This video may have already been posted before, but it bears watching again. Go to the 8:00 mark! Here we have Robert F Kennedy Jr - The nephew of an AMERICAN PRESIDENT - basically telling voters to CHEAT, by instructing them, "Don't accept the provisional ballots!"

YouTube - Rachel Maddow & Robert Kennedy Steal back your vote!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nna4_7k7UoM)

Wow... Just wow.

Another link I stumbled on to in my google search, was this movie promoted by Rolling Stone (http://www.gregpalast.com/sbyv/download-the-movie.html) from the site, "http://stealbackyourvote.org/". Funny website name huh? "Steal"?

Apparently, to democrats, it's ok let convicted felons vote? It's also ok for them to vote twice, or more? If provisional ballots are NOT used, whats to keep these same people from "poll hopping" to several counties??? These guys just don't get it.

Bottom line? Provisional Ballots are hopefully going to save us from potential fraud, but it could get VERY DICEY on Nov 5th. Thankfully, the state of TEXAS (by historical data) has always been a republican state. The democrats, however, are trying to CHEAT the system at a national level, to win at all cost. We've already seen it happen in the primaries, and are STILL waiting for the authorities to prosecute these thugs!

My challange to all of you: Do what I did. Go to your election offices in YOUR countys/states and demand to know how they will be handling these types of situations. MAKE SURE THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS to protect this election from the unthinkable. :mad:

foxyladi
10-26-2008, 04:58 PM
it is going to be a Obama challenge if he does not win everywhere

challange away..

Horizon
10-26-2008, 05:03 PM
Great work KJ!!! I think the ACORN plan all along was to generate mass confusion at the polls.

kjcanon
10-26-2008, 06:46 PM
I was looking for how I could edit my original post, but can't seem to find the little button.... so I'm adding this here:

As a poll watcher, one of my most important duties is to make sure the judge has his/her precinct registered voter list up-to-date. At this training seesion, they said that there's a possibility that the judge may not have an updated list, and if so, that they should have a separate list of those who voted early. The judges are suppose to take this list of early voters (BEFORE the polls even open!) and mark their regular list of voters accordingly. This duty is HUGE. If they fail (for whatever reason) to do so, then chaos will most certainly be a result, once the polls open! I'm supposed to make sure that each name has been identified as an early voter or not - by way of a special notation, pre-printed next to the name, or by observing that the judge hand-marks these names against the separate early voter list). Can you imagine what would happen if this list were not updated before the polls open?

CountryFirst
10-26-2008, 10:24 PM
Excellent analysis, KJ.

But not all states require ID, right?

How do they even get to the provisional ballot stage if they can't verify ID?

I feel like I'm watching my country being stolen :(

cynthia2
10-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Georgia requires your voter card and drivers lic, passport or other form of approved picture ID. Georgia will definitely be a red state.

mjno7777
10-26-2008, 11:24 PM
Excellent work!!!! I think voters should be prepared for OBAMABOTS causing havoc, but to NOT GIVE UP, and get their vote in.

pnevai
10-26-2008, 11:44 PM
Thank you for your service as a poll watcher, we need many more like you volunteering. As I mentioned in another post. If a person does not have proper ID, then they have to use a provisional ballot. If they do not want to accept it they should be asked to leave. Plain and Simple. If that is the State Law then it is the State Law. Don't get into an argument just get out the cell phone and Call the cops if you have to.

This can either be done by the rules or they can not vote at all. It is their choice. If everything is on the up and up then their vote will be counted, fair and square. Watch Donna Brazile and the DNC nuts will acuse us of changing the rules again when nothing of the kind is happening. They did that back in the Primaries don't cha know.

Lynne
10-27-2008, 12:26 AM
In one Dallas precinct, Obama supporters were chanting and talking non stop to voters who were waiting in line. The Obama supporters might want to be careful because the public is getting tired of their behavior and some "adult" might back talk them. What happens to an Obama supporter that is challenged?