View Full Version : POLL FINAL (Round 5 of Voting): Which name do your prefer for the forum's new identity?
(Just because a Common Ground Politics banner is up doesn't mean the contest is over!!)
Down to 2 choices after five rounds voting.
In making a choice think about these things:
- aim of the forum is to attract people with a variety of viewpoints from the left, middle, right and everywhere in between
- aim is to promote discussion between people who may not otherwise communicate, and to provide a non-partisan-specific, non-candidate-specific online space in which to do that
- aim is to provide something that is not provided by DU (Dems) and FR (Repubs), something for those who find themselves somewhere in between
- aim is to have a name that captures the above sentiments in a way which is both catchy, informative & positive/inviting & useful for "name/brand recognition"
- aim is to provide a name which can, at times, mobilize people to achieve some positive practical outcome
joeysky18
11-10-2008, 08:52 AM
bump
Thanks Ace. Voted.
foxyladi
11-10-2008, 12:01 PM
voted mid point..
foxyladi
11-10-2008, 12:02 PM
ooops.bump
Mrsawd
11-10-2008, 12:06 PM
I am not sure what the forum is going to be doing so i can't vot at this time !
whether it will be obot territory or what !
this was a place that we all could look forward to and now well I am just not sure any more !
Mad_Jasper
11-10-2008, 12:15 PM
(Just because a Common Ground Politics banner is up doesn't mean the contest is over!!)
Down to 2 choices after five rounds voting.
In making a choice think about these things:
- aim of the forum is to attract people with a variety of viewpoints from the left, middle, right and everywhere in between
- aim is to promote discussion between people who may not otherwise communicate, and to provide a non-partisan-specific, non-candidate-specific online space in which to do that
- aim is to provide something that is not provided by DU (Dems) and FR (Repubs), something for those who find themselves somewhere in between
- aim is to have a name that captures the above sentiments in a way which is both catchy, informative & positive/inviting & useful for "name/brand recognition"
- aim is to provide a name which can, at times, mobilize people to achieve some positive practical outcome
I think "Common Ground" is an excellent name. It represents what I've witnessed here for the last two months - people reaching across party lines to support a better cause.
If we are ever going to experience "real change" in this country, partisanship must be set aside. We often join a party based on just a few issues and accept the party's talking points for the issues we care little or nothing about. Those issues may be very important, but we can no longer afford to do this.
This can be more than just a forum. We have the abilty to reach the people. How many times did Hannity, Greta, or Drudge jump on a story that orginated from these boards? All of you made a difference! This doesn't need to halt because the election is over.
I ask all of you that are leaving to reconsider. I may have some fundamental disagreements with many of you, but let's not let this opportunity to make a difference pass us by.
Let's find "Common Ground" for the "Common Good" of the people.
I think "Common Ground" is an excellent name. It represents what I've witnessed here for the last two months - people reaching across party lines to support a better cause........I ask all of you that are leaving to reconsider.....let's not let this opportunity to make a difference pass us by.
Let's find "Common Ground" for the "Common Good" of the people.
I agree. This IS an opportunity. The opportunity for finding common ground presents itself on a web site - this particular site - like nothing in our everyday lives does. We may find common ground in our other interests with friends and associates, but politics is still something of a no-no. The anonymity of web sharing allows a person to speak more frankly (though respectfully, please) - to contemplate what the other person has said - and to take time to put our thoughts together before "speaking." Never know what seeds can be planted in that fertile, common ground! ;)
voted mid point..
stamp.
vote for midpoint :rolleyes:
Santiago
11-10-2008, 02:27 PM
I think "Common Ground" is an excellent name. It represents what I've witnessed here for the last two months - people reaching across party lines to support a better cause.
If we are ever going to experience "real change" in this country, partisanship must be set aside. We often join a party based on just a few issues and accept the party's talking points for the issues we care little or nothing about. Those issues may be very important, but we can no longer afford to do this.
This can be more than just a forum. We have the abilty to reach the people. How many times did Hannity, Greta, or Drudge jump on a story that orginated from these boards? All of you made a difference! This doesn't need to halt because the election is over.
I ask all of you that are leaving to reconsider. I may have some fundamental disagreements with many of you, but let's not let this opportunity to make a difference pass us by.
Let's find "Common Ground" for the "Common Good" of the people.
Stamp!
SoCal4Hillary
11-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Voted. Definitely Common Ground Politics (and not just because I made the banner that says that!).
marcelmarcel
11-10-2008, 02:35 PM
voted for midpoint.
I started a new thread with the copied bellow post, because I wanted to lobby for MidPoint. I hope we get more votes. Go MidPoint!
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This forum was and still is pro- HRC because she is a centrist. She speaks to the center, to the core of this country. Thus, MidPoint. :)
What has changed? Nothing in my mind. HRC was not running for president, and she still is a formidable force in the senate. ;)
"How many divisions does the pope have?" Stalin asked sarcastically when told that the Holy Father objects to his actions. Today, the question is: how many divisions does Hillary command? :rolleyes:
Nobody gets things for free.
As long as we stand behind her, watching her back, she will be respected, and MidPoint values will be respected by BHO and others. What counts is the power of her constituency and their determination. There is no other politician, who can better represent our centrists core values than HRC. Thus, MidPoint Politics. ;)
Common Ground is a wish-wash. Common ground with what values, for what reasons? :confused:
Thus: MidPoint Politics! Socially liberal, fiscally prudent. Remember: politics are for long distance runners! We are in the middle of a long race. We may change out outfit, but we are not changing our values and we are going to keep fighting for MidPoint America! :)
I rest my case. :)
marcelmarcel
11-10-2008, 02:50 PM
MIDPOINT!!!!!
bump
hobbitt
11-10-2008, 03:01 PM
I voted for "Common Ground" but reluctantly.
"Common" has some negative connotations.
Why not "Uncommon Ground" ?
...because I wanted to lobby for MidPoint. I hope we get more votes. Go MidPoint!
I was formerly for Mid-Point, but changed to Common Ground, in part for the following reasons which will alternate with your points:
This forum was and still is pro- HRC because she is a centrist. She speaks to the center, to the core of this country. Thus, MidPoint. :)
This forum was pro-Hillary but has taken a new direction, not centered on any one candidate or party. The emphasis, as I understand it, is to be on issues and on seeking common ground on those issues. It's possible that there could be more Hillary supporters here at any given time, or there may not be; that's not the point. I agree that Hillary speaks to the center - the core of the country - which imo, is definitely in sync with the "Common Ground" term.
What has changed? Nothing in my mind. HRC was not running for president, and she still is a formidable force in the senate. ;)
Things HAVE changed considerably with the election, though I agree that Hillary is still a formidable force and many of us will continue to support her in whatever endeavors she undertakes.
"How many divisions does the pope have?" Stalin asked sarcastically when told that the Holy Father objects to his actions. Today, the question is: how many divisions does Hillary command? :rolleyes:
Not sure exactly what you mean here, but I'd say it's up in the air at the moment. She is still a respected United States Senator with the ability to get a lot of things done. My personal wish is that she becomes Majority Leader, if not Secretary of State.
Nobody gets things for free. As long as we stand behind her, watching her back, she will be respected, and MidPoint values will be respected by BHO and others. What counts is the power of her constituency and their determination. There is no other politician, who can better represent our centrists core values than HRC. Thus, MidPoint Politics. ;)
This could be true, no matter what the name of this forum is. It's possible that Common Ground Politics actually carries more weight as a name, than does MidPoint, in that it infers a broader coalition within.
Common Ground is a wish-wash. Common ground with what values, for what reasons? :confused:
"Wish-wash" seems to put down values and views right off. However, I would give you "mish-mash," which says a "mix of views" which after all, is representative of "common ground." Our views speak from our values - our values are expressed through our views, in the hope and with the purpose of finding common ground through understanding of how a person thinks on any one issue, and why.
Common Ground may require compromise in order to reach a midpoint. We can't assume a midpoint, but we can work toward it. Common ground, or Common Ground Politics, gives us the room to work in, to grow, to look for those midpoints of compromise.
Thus: MidPoint Politics! Socially liberal, fiscally prudent. Remember: politics are for long distance runners! We are in the middle of a long race. We may change out outfit, but we are not changing our values and we are going to keep fighting for MidPoint America! :)
Thus! Common Ground Politics! Much yet to be determined, but we are long-distance runners, to be sure! And the door is open to those who seek common ground in order to bring this country together with the intent of living harmoniously.
I rest my case. :)
I rest my case. :) I do hope that you will be content with either name. This can truly be a gathering place to move forward from - together.
ScottVA
11-10-2008, 09:41 PM
maybe it should be BeatNoBamasAss Politics..... :-) hey it was just a thought LOL
Common Ground is an oxymoron this year.......because there isn't any....
This could be true, no matter what the name of this forum is. It's possible that Common Ground Politics actually carries more weight as a name, than does MidPoint, in that it infers a broader coalition within.
Common Ground may require compromise in order to reach a midpoint. We can't assume a midpoint, but we can work toward it. Common ground, or Common Ground Politics, gives us the room to work in, to grow, to look for those midpoints of compromise.
I liked all your points, but especially the above 2.
EsmeraldaB
11-10-2008, 09:49 PM
maybe it should be BeatNoBamasAss Politics..... :-)
It's got my vote...
AnnaB
11-10-2008, 09:51 PM
I chose MidPoint, but honestly I like them both.
MrSandMan
11-10-2008, 09:53 PM
Which domain has more age? That's the one that I'd go with.
Which domain has more age? That's the one that I'd go with.
What do you mean in regards to "age"?
MrSandMan
11-10-2008, 09:56 PM
What do you mean in regards to "age"?
Older domains tend to rank better in search engines. Also, do either of these have back links [inbound links].
I'm assuming that you already own both domain names.
As far as name itself goes, they both get the point across. I have drawn more attached to CommonGround because it's what we're currently using.
ScottVA
11-10-2008, 09:56 PM
Which domain has more age? That's the one that I'd go with.
you know NO OFFENSE but why do all of you Bots have to bring Hillary into your points? I am very fascinated by this..... If NoBama told you to jump off of a bridge and Hillary seconded it I guess that means you'd still do it! You know some people aren't lemmings..... LOL
MrSandMan
11-10-2008, 10:00 PM
you know NO OFFENSE but why do all of you Bots have to bring Hillary into your points? I am very fascinated by this..... If NoBama told you to jump off of a bridge and Hillary seconded it I guess that means you'd still do it! You know some people aren't lemmings..... LOL
Make a new thread about it. Let's just keep this thread on subject. ;)
Older domains tend to rank better in search engines. Also, do either of these have back links [inbound links].
I'm assuming that you already own both domain names.
As far as name itself goes, they both get the point across. I have drawn more attached to CommonGround because it's what we're currently using.
Actually they are both new and I have them both, so they have no history and no back links. So it would be starting from scratch with getting recognition in search engines.
The old HCF domain would forward directly to the new domain.
MrSandMan
11-10-2008, 10:38 PM
Well then, it's a toss up for me. I like them both. I think they both get the message across
Scratch that, I like commonground best.
michu
11-10-2008, 10:43 PM
I dislike "Common Ground" immensely. It sounds like a place where we're supposed to reach common ground with Obots. I, for one, will not entertain the ideals of the wacko, extreme left where Obama lies (unintentional pun). Midpoint is at least center.
I dislike "Common Ground" immensely. It sounds like a place where we're supposed to reach common ground with Obots. I, for one, will not entertain the ideals of the wacko, extreme left where Obama lies (unintentional pun). Midpoint is at least center.
Perhaps anti-commonground = anti-american ?
Are people Americans before they are voters?
Or is their voting preference more important than their identification as Amercian?
Country first? I guess not.
Or is it country first only if your favored candidate wins?
My partner voted for Obama - do you recommend I divorce him & banish him to the streets for being an evil Obamabot?
(oops forget, can't get married, not straight)
Seeking common ground has nothing to do with Obama or his supporters. It has everything to do with allowing people of all political persuasions to participate in discussion.
CT-Hilltopper
11-10-2008, 10:46 PM
Jeez.
At this point I don't care what you call it.
Would you just settle on something already?
MrSandMan
11-11-2008, 01:05 AM
I dislike "Common Ground" immensely. It sounds like a place where we're supposed to reach common ground with Obots. I, for one, will not entertain the ideals of the wacko, extreme left where Obama lies (unintentional pun). Midpoint is at least center.
You don't have too, that's why it's "common ground", not "one common ground" or the "one and only common ground".
We're a living, breathing human beings. Isn't that common enough? :D
Horizon
11-19-2008, 09:46 PM
If HRC takes the SoS position,could we not keep our name??
There will be LOTS to discuss if she does.
If HRC takes the SoS position,could we not keep our name??
There will be LOTS to discuss if she does.
Perhaps. Time will tell.
diane
11-19-2008, 10:20 PM
At first I was "MidPoint Politics" all the way. But then the forum has shifted from being a Clinton (especially Hillary) Democrat in it's ideology, to the type of people who voted for and support Obama. So just trying to reach some kind of common ground with that mentality lends itself to the term "common ground". So that's how I voted.
Although a "common ground' doesn't just come from two opposing views. There has to be something outside of that to draw such differing peoples together. We were PUMAs against Obama and that created a "common ground" with members of the GOP. Unfortunately, the PUMAs delivered on election day and the GOP didn't. But I cant' see the "common ground" with anyone who supported Obama... what's the larger goal to bring such differening views together? Many of them seem to be anti-gay or they pretend they're pro-gay just not in any real life marraige kind of way. We saw and expereinced the rampant misogyny during the Primary and the GE, so we' know they're anti-Women, or they pretend to be pro-Women but just spew the most vitrioloic hatred at any Woman running against their "chosen one".
But either way... "common ground" seems to work as the new title.
But then the forum has shifted from being a Clinton (especially Hillary) Democrat in it's ideology, to the type of people who voted for and support Obama.
Diane - the second part of the statement above is so inaccurate. On what basis can you possibly say that? Where is the evidence? To have a few Obama supporters posting in the forum - along with a group primarily consisting of prohillary supporters, nobama supporters & republicans - is hardly an indication that the forum has "shifted" towards being a forum of "people who voted for and support Obama". Seriously, that's just so untrue.
Ranger375
11-19-2008, 10:33 PM
I still say there are going to be a lot of very unhappy people once Obama does not deliver. I am hoping they come to this forum. It is going to take a lot of people to stop some of the things that I believe are coming.
The people that are beginning to feel buyers remorse will want to do something about it. If we can't bridge that then we lose valuable allies.
eyedoc333
11-19-2008, 11:41 PM
If HRC takes the SoS position,could we not keep our name??
There will be LOTS to discuss if she does.
I agree!
mcgowan.swan
11-20-2008, 09:05 AM
i voted common ground. i am not crazy about either name, but common ground seems to present a broader space for views.
i dislike losing the name recognition we had as hcf, and i am a proud puma that was a proud hcf member. i do not know how i feel about the forum yet in it's new incarnation, but i find i cannot stay away. lol
therefore, i will watch and try to stay clear of ranting against any jonesville like postings by the large number of obama supporters that seem to believe he is the next coming. to those obama supporters that are respectful, i will return the favor.
i come here because so many posters are intelligent, articulate, and so well informed. i hope that trait continues.
muzza and the moderators participate as well as guide us, and i hope that continues as well.
if those factors stay in place, i will be happy with whatever name you pick, muzza. i do wish that you would take back your muzza name.
i like the name common ground for a forum, but it is hard to think of muzza when i read common ground under a thread or reply.
won't you come back, muzza??? :):)
and i was just wondering, maybe since we are no longer going to represent one candidate or party over another, would it be a good idea to suggest that we take our view of our choice in this past election, winner or loser, out of our signature?
i will take out the amadinejad/chavez reference to obama being a socialist, if say, sandman takes out the obama supporter/hillary voted for obama reference from his? i think it is plain to see how mine might irritate him and his would irritate me. kind of puts us at odds before the first word is spoken, doesnt it?? just a thought.
the suggestion would have to come from you and be done within a time period. i will keep my signature until that time. lol
and i meant what i said about not being able to stay away. i wrote a huge goodbye the day before you closed, and i meant to give it a lot of time before i returned, because i thought it would take a few months to calm down in here, but when you opened again i was just drawn over here.
now that i have been reading for a day or so, i find that most of the really obnoxious immature obots whose sole intent was to rub his win in our faces have left, and the obama supporters now here are at least keeping to other subjects.
a good sign.
i will never change my mind about how devious obama is and how bad for this country obama he will be, but i agree with the poster above about needing a place where all the reasonable people, those who love america above their political preferences and personal issues, can gather to help save her.
i too believe that it is going to get very bad very soon. peace to all. love swan.
Spang
11-20-2008, 01:01 PM
Since YesWeCan was not one of the choices, I chose CommonGroundPolitics.
and i was just wondering, maybe since we are no longer going to represent one candidate or party over another, would it be a good idea to suggest that we take our view of our choice in this past election, winner or loser, out of our signature?
i will take out the amadinejad/chavez reference to obama being a socialist, if say, sandman takes out the obama supporter/hillary voted for obama reference from his? i think it is plain to see how mine might irritate him and his would irritate me. kind of puts us at odds before the first word is spoken, doesnt it?? just a thought.
Good points/suggestions.
56/25.
I wish "midpoint politics" received more votes!
It's a catchy phrase and a little easier to type.
But maybe "midpoint politics" doesn't provide much of a framework for discussing topics?
56/25.
I wish "midpoint politics" received more votes!
It's a catchy phrase and a little easier to type.
But maybe "midpoint politics" doesn't provide much of a framework for discussing topics?
I voted Midpoint... it's still my fav.:p Common ground just sounds so blah!
I voted Midpoint... it's still my fav.:p Common ground just sounds so blah!
As in too "kumbuya"?! :confused:
As in too "kumbuya"?! :confused:
Kinda, but it just doesn't make you really want to try anything.:D You'd come here and expect common ground already.:p
Kinda, but it just doesn't make you really want to try anything.:D You'd come here and expect common ground already.:p
Maybe "common ground" wrongly implies that "unity" is the goal, when it isn't. The goal is to be "inclusive" of different views, not "unified" in the approach to discussion & expression of views.
Maybe "common ground" wrongly implies that "unity" is the goal, when it isn't. The goal is to be "inclusive" of different views, not "unified" in the approach to discussion & expression of views.
Yes, common ground makes it seem as though we want everyone to "uinfy" So maybe that's why I like midpoint.:confused:
Maybe "common ground" wrongly implies that "unity" is the goal, when it isn't. The goal is to be "inclusive" of different views, not "unified" in the approach to discussion & expression of views.
My first choice, way back, was MidPoint Politics, but Common Ground Politics won me over.
I think Common Ground Politics implies "seeking" common ground - thus, people from different backgrounds and views coming together for that purpose - searching for understanding as a road to the answers that we can all live with.
CGP is both an acknowledgement and a challenge. An acknowledgement that we have common needs as human beings and share the common ground that we live on - but it also poses a challenge, to find the way to serve/solve those needs. Does this make sense to you?
CGP is both an acknowledgement and a challenge. An acknowledgement that we have common needs as human beings and share the common ground that we live on - but it also poses a challenge, to find the way to serve/solve those needs. Does this make sense to you?
Yes, definitely. CGP is a more positive framework in that it provides more clear guidelines for pursuing action. MPP is less useful in that regard as it doesn't provide as clear a framework.
Yes, definitely. CGP is a more positive framework in that it provides more clear guidelines for pursuing action. MPP is less useful in that regard as it doesn't provide as clear a framework.
I agree that MidPoint Politics is catchy - it "got me" first time around! But Common Ground grew on me fast - it just seemed so right for the direction and inclusiveness the forum was going. And now, MidPoint, though it's a clever, lively phrase, leaves me wondering what it really means. It sounds narrower than CG to me, or in fact, a definite goal we are to arrive at. Just my thoughts at this time. Common Ground Politics sounds welcoming, also, and that's good. Whatever the name - may this forum live on!:)
I agree that MidPoint Politics is catchy - it "got me" first time around! But Common Ground grew on me fast - it just seemed so right for the direction and inclusiveness the forum was going. And now, MidPoint, though it's a clever, lively phrase, leaves me wondering what it really means. It sounds narrower than CG to me, or in fact, a definite goal we are to arrive at. Just my thoughts at this time. Common Ground Politics sounds welcoming, also, and that's good. Whatever the name - may this forum live on!:)
Interesting points. I am always interested to know how people come to their conclusions about these kinds of matters!
SoCal4Hillary
11-21-2008, 12:38 AM
Hillaryforchange08 has expressed my feelings very well. I, too, initially voted for MP but changed to CG, and I'm sticking with it. I just think it's a better description of what we're trying to accomplish here--and implies SEEKING common ground as opposed to being about unity.
Alessandro Machi
11-21-2008, 03:25 AM
Since YesWeCan was not one of the choices, I chose CommonGroundPolitics.
Murray, can we have a knife through the heart icon added?
I vote for "YesWeCanCheat&GetAwayWithit", or,
"YesWeCanSPEND200MILLIONdollarsinundocumentedfunds&BRAGaboutit"
Oh wait, I liked CommonGroundPolitics as well. Hmmm, opposite sides agreeing on the same title.:eek:
(I did not put that space between funds and &, it just is automatically added for some reason).
TheTaoOfBill
11-21-2008, 12:56 PM
I think this poll might be unfairly motivated by the admin's username. But I don't mind since I prefer CommonGround anyway lol.
SoCal4Hillary
11-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Murray, can we have a knife through the heart icon added?
I vote for "YesWeCanCheat&GetAwayWithit", or,
"YesWeCanSPEND200MILLIONdollarsinundocumentedfunds&BRAGaboutit"Great suggestions!
Horizon
11-21-2008, 02:35 PM
I have a new idea for our name!!!
How about "DAZED AND CONFUSED"??? I think it fits!!!
sojourner
11-21-2008, 03:21 PM
I have a new idea for our name!!!
How about "DAZED AND CONFUSED"??? I think it fits!!!
That certainly fits my current state :)
p.s. That Ron White definitely has the right idea.
Soren
11-21-2008, 08:11 PM
Hillary Clinton now has the most important job in the world, so I suggest this forum be called :D ta da :D
Hillary Clinton Forum
:p
Hillary Clinton now has the most important job in the world, so I suggest this forum be called :D ta da :D
Hillary Clinton Forum
:p
Might have to do a head to head between:
www.HillaryClintonForum.net
and
www.CommonGroundPolitics.net
Might have to do a head to head between:
www.HillaryClintonForum.net (http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net)
and
www.CommonGroundPolitics.net (http://www.CommonGroundPolitics.net)
I think you should just keep it HCF and have a line underneath saying, "A place to find common ground." I think with Hill becoming SoS it gives you more than enough reason to keep the name!:p
I think you should just keep it HCF and have a line underneath saying, "A place to find common ground." I think with Hill becoming SoS it gives you more than enough reason to keep the name!:p
Imagine if I had a banner with pics of both HC and BO - that would send some people into a major tiz! ;)
Imagine if I had a banner with pics of both HC and BO - that would send some people into a major tiz! ;)
Oh no! No BO on the banner... I'd choke someone!:eek:
But I think if HCF does win having the tag line be what I just said would be ok.;)
Horizon
11-21-2008, 08:44 PM
I think you should just keep it HCF and have a line underneath saying, "A place to find common ground." I think with Hill becoming SoS it gives you more than enough reason to keep the name!:p
I like this the best.
Oh no! No BO on the banner... I'd choke someone!:eek:
But I think if HCF does win having the tag line be what I just said would be ok.;)
I was joking. Partly.
But I like the idea of the byline.
I was joking. Partly.
But I like the idea of the byline.
Well if he's there... he's got to be TINY!:eek:
But yes, if Hillary can do it... so can we!:D
ZY123
11-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Yes, common ground makes it seem as though we want everyone to "uinfy" So maybe that's why I like midpoint.:confused:
I don't like midpoint at all, that just means everyone on the middle which is not all views. I'm defining it from the geometry point of view.
I don't like midpoint at all, that just means everyone on the middle which is not all views. I'm defining it from the geometry point of view.
HEY! Mid-point was the only thing I could actually do in geometry! I hated that class!:eek:
ZY123
11-21-2008, 08:48 PM
Imagine if I had a banner with pics of both HC and BO - that would send some people into a major tiz! ;)
While I don't like the idea of BO on the banner I do like the idea of a major tiz. (That's bad of me! :eek:)
ZY123
11-21-2008, 08:48 PM
HEY! Mid-point was the only thing I could actually do in geometry! I hated that class!:eek:
did you use the protractor? :p
did you use the protractor? :p
Gosh, I haven't heard that word in many years!!! :eek:
Now it sounds like some kind of sordid implement!
did you use the protractor? :p
Unfortunately, but only to draw the angles.:p
Gosh, I haven't heard that word in many years!!! :eek:
Now it sounds like some kind of sordid implement!
I know it sounds like it's used for torture!:eek:
Ikasu
11-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Now that Hillary has a powerful job that has a larger influence than a Senator, I think it should stay www.hillaryclintonforum.net
Now that Hillary has a powerful job that has a larger influence than a Senator, I think it should stay www.hillaryclintonforum.net
Yes, there is certainly a stronger argument for that now.
Horizon
11-21-2008, 10:33 PM
Yes, there is certainly a stronger argument for that now.
;);););)Please??? With the nice common ground comment attached??
It would be fab!:p
Spang
11-21-2008, 10:34 PM
With an 8 x 10 of Barack Obama, too. Please?
With an 8 x 10 of Barack Obama, too. Please?
Yeah right!
If he makes an appearance in a banner, it will be in small size.
Horizon
11-22-2008, 06:55 PM
Murray,I think I smell Round 6 in the air!;);)
Murray,I think I smell Round 6 in the air!;);)
Yes, most likely.
Alessandro Machi
11-23-2008, 12:10 AM
Yes, most likely.
How about "The Moat, enter if you Dare".
joeysky18
11-23-2008, 12:20 AM
Yes, most likely.
I've changed my mind. I vote for keeping HCF name in honor of Hillary Clinton.
calmati
11-23-2008, 12:27 AM
Imagine if I had a banner with pics of both HC and BO - that would send some people into a major tiz! ;)
Actually... After he makes the "official" declaration of Hillary as his choice for SoS, AND if there is a decent "photo-op" type pic of the two of them from whatever media...
Of course, I'm assuming such instances would occur...
Why not make that into a banner? "Here's Hillary (SoS), and that dude she works with... in banner form!"
Yeah, I probably need more caffeine.
How about "The Moat, enter if you Dare".
Good one! But I don't think there is any moat around this forum anymore!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moat
A moat is deep, broad trench, usually filled with water, that surrounds a structure, installation, or town, normally to provide it with a preliminary line of defense.
Nichelle
11-23-2008, 05:42 PM
Now that Hillary has a powerful job that has a larger influence than a Senator, I think it should stay www.hillaryclintonforum.net
I can understand where you're coming from. But my excitement over the change in direction for the forum was related to moving away from a single individual. If it remains www.HillaryClintonForum.net then I don't think many people with different views will be attracted to the site for positive reasons. It would seem that it would remain all about Hillary, with an anti-Obama undercurrent. People would be here either to express support for Hillary or visit to express anti-Hillary views. And in my glass half empty moment, I think the eventual result will be the forum in its original form.
Of course, that might be okay with some. If the goal changes to be a Hillary support focused forum, then so be it. It's early for me and I still feel like a visitor so, it's cool. I just don't know that I would participate.
Thanks!
SKR01
11-23-2008, 09:56 PM
Midpoint Politics is my second choice, but Common Ground Politics is my first, as it connotes that we share some general principles that we can build on, despite our differences. As much as I admire Gov. Palin, I liked hearing "Country First" more than "Sarah, Sarah" from the crowds. People come and go (and can be corrupted), but adherence to unchangeable principles is key to the longevity of a nation.
However, if the name remains as Hillary Clinton Forum, that is understandable. I'll be posting from a common ground standpoint anyway.:)
As I see it...being anti groupthink does not equal common ground. They sound like opposites, but that's just my opinion.
So I chose mid point, only because there was not an option for 'non of the above'.
being anti groupthink does not equal common ground.
Trying to get my brain around that one!
hillary4change
11-24-2008, 02:11 AM
I voted common ground, I think that we can all have at least one issue that we have common ground on, besides common ground sounds very open and inviting.
Alessandro Machi
11-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Might have to do a head to head between:
www.HillaryClintonForum.net
and
www.CommonGroundPolitics.net
Wow, I did not know that HillaryClintonForum.net was still on the table, or nearby at least.
Alessandro Machi
11-24-2008, 05:37 PM
As I see it...being anti groupthink does not equal common ground. They sound like opposites, but that's just my opinion.
An example of common ground might be a traffic intersection. Half the cars are going one way, half are going the other way, but they agree to acknowledge the traffic light while they are all on that common piece of ground.
Folamix
11-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Midpoint just seems unfinished, incomplete to me. Common Ground implies unity and that is definitely not what this forum is about. I like the idea of remaining the Hillary Clinton Forum with a byline, but I suspect that will not neutral enough for some.
I still like Battle Ground Politics:) because the forum entertains diverse points of view. But I know I am in the minority on that one.
So I suppose Common Ground is the compromise.
I can understand where you're coming from. But my excitement over the change in direction for the forum was related to moving away from a single individual.....It would seem that it would remain all about Hillary, with an anti-Obama undercurrent. People would be here either to express support for Hillary or visit to express anti-Hillary views.....Of course, that might be okay with some. If the goal changes to be a Hillary support focused forum, then so be it. It's early for me and I still feel like a visitor so, it's cool. I just don't know that I would participate.
Thanks!
I tend to agree with this - point being that the goal of inclusiveness, i.e., welcoming people with a variety of views on a variety of issues would not be clear at all. And, Hillary, in her new role, no longer a candidate but representing the U.S. all over the world, will be dealing with issues that a broad spectrum of people will be interested in, not only for her part in them, but more so, for the consequences for our country and around the world. So I think the new focus, with the Common Ground Politics name, makes a new, important, welcoming statement and is right on track!:)
The_Basseteer
11-27-2008, 06:56 PM
I voted for Common Ground...it implies a place where we can all meet.... MidPoint seems to be a locus we just circle around.
MidPoint seems to be a locus we just circle around.
:p That's a good one.
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