View Full Version : Rendell says Clinton will win PA (but not by as much as expected?)
Annie
03-31-2008, 11:37 AM
Important for those calls and all you can do in Pensylvania. Obama is catching up according to Rendell. Has he been arm wrestled by Obamobomb?
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-03312008-1511610.html
JJ4Hillary
03-31-2008, 11:47 AM
Noooooooooo this can not happen. We need hillary to win by 20point.:(:(
Amy Dugan
03-31-2008, 11:48 AM
i hope he is just lowering the bar. you know it is set so high (15% ahead of obama) that if she wins by 9% it will be percieved as a hillary loss. trying to make it look like tx and nh, where her 15-20 lead is a dead even or 3-5 behind on election day.
governor rendell is not succombing to the kool-aid
Smart cookie
03-31-2008, 11:50 AM
Hillary won't win Pa. by as much as previously expected.
She will win it by more!
AlexG
03-31-2008, 12:09 PM
Well, after the Media treating Obama like a golden child, I am not surprised. I officially think Media runs this country. The democratic party also tries to help him and be unfair to Hillary Clinton. It is appalling.
(1) No one (No media) ever goes after him after he said "Never been to one of these sermons" and 4 days later said "Yes" he was. They never go after him on this.
(2) They never address that : The speech didn't address why Obama took this guy's advise for 20 years. And, if Obama is so close to this guy, why Obama has zero influence on Rev. Wright and put these hate speeches to stop. Heck! They even sell the DVDs for years.
(3) They never asked :Why that Obama knows fully well that Rev. Wright make contraversial speeches, and Obama still appointed him to be religious theologist senior advisor?
(4) In the View, morning talk show, one of the host, a black woman (I forget her name) said the speech Obama gave was so good, she switched her vote frorm Hillary to Obama, but didn't stated why. -- I personally think the speech was terrible, not addressing issues, making excuses, and promoting white guilt. Additionally, it is unpatriotic.
(5) The media CNN, MSNBC, etc. go on about the great speech Obama made. Eventually, the viewers are brainwashed. Just like Advertisement he placed on TV, except this time it is free. Chris Mathews said "The speech should be read over and over. 6th graders should read it like Huckaberry Fin. The Senior college needs to read it before they graduate. All of us should every now and then." Give me a break. Most people I know who are hardcore democrats said the speech was not great as Obama double talk. Obama avocated why the blacks thought the way Rev. Wright said, but his camp and he never give the same treatment to Ferraro, Hillary, Bill Clinton, or anybody from Hillary camp.
(6) Richardson endorsed Obama for his speech trying to divert people from Rev. Wright's speech. The media is all over it to blind people from the hate speech.
(7) Obama said on the View and many places that Rev. Wright speeches which were played over and over on TV and youtube were over a course of Rev. Wright's lifetime or over 20 years. Give me a break. There were only TWO or THREE speeches that they got on TAPE. That is not snippets from over a lifetime. It is from two. And, I am sure there are many more since it seems (from the video) to give joy Rev. Wright and his people (who listen in that church.)
It is the media's fault. He only gets his votes because of the medias.
tcbwriter
03-31-2008, 01:00 PM
Well, after the Media treating Obama like a golden child, I am not surprised. I officially think Media runs this country. The democratic party also tries to help him and be unfair to Hillary Clinton. It is appalling.
(1) No one (No media) ever goes after him after he said "Never been to one of these sermons" and 4 days later said "Yes" he was. They never go after him on this.
(2) They never address that : The speech didn't address why Obama took this guy's advise for 20 years. And, if Obama is so close to this guy, why Obama has zero influence on Rev. Wright and put these hate speeches to stop. Heck! They even sell the DVDs for years.
(3) They never asked :Why that Obama knows fully well that Rev. Wright make contraversial speeches, and Obama still appointed him to be religious theologist senior advisor?
(4) In the View, morning talk show, one of the host, a black woman (I forget her name) said the speech Obama gave was so good, she switched her vote frorm Hillary to Obama, but didn't stated why. -- I personally think the speech was terrible, not addressing issues, making excuses, and promoting white guilt. Additionally, it is unpatriotic.
(5) The media CNN, MSNBC, etc. go on about the great speech Obama made. Eventually, the viewers are brainwashed. Just like Advertisement he placed on TV, except this time it is free. Chris Mathews said "The speech should be read over and over. 6th graders should read it like Huckaberry Fin. The Senior college needs to read it before they graduate. All of us should every now and then." Give me a break. Most people I know who are hardcore democrats said the speech was not great as Obama double talk. Obama avocated why the blacks thought the way Rev. Wright said, but his camp and he never give the same treatment to Ferraro, Hillary, Bill Clinton, or anybody from Hillary camp.
(6) Richardson endorsed Obama for his speech trying to divert people from Rev. Wright's speech. The media is all over it to blind people from the hate speech.
(7) Obama said on the View and many places that Rev. Wright speeches which were played over and over on TV and youtube were over a course of Rev. Wright's lifetime or over 20 years. Give me a break. There were only TWO or THREE speeches that they got on TAPE. That is not snippets from over a lifetime. It is from two. And, I am sure there are many more since it seems (from the video) to give joy Rev. Wright and his people (who listen in that church.)
It is the media's fault. He only gets his votes because of the medias.
This is the very same media who failed to give us the details of GW Bush's background/history. This is the very same media who repeated the lies that carried us into war on a country who had never harmed us nor were any threat to us. This is the very same media who played the swifboat ads so often the group never had to pay any money to get their filth to the public, half of whom believe anything they hear on TV and think all Democrats are the Devil incarnate.
It's the media stupid!
lanney
03-31-2008, 01:21 PM
Last Dec there was election in Indian state, Chief Minister of that state was blamed for riots in 2002. Actually he failed to control it after 57 Hindu women and children were burnt alive by Muslim mob. Riots were huge. Even after that riot he won election, but left media of India and international organization kept hate propaganda against him. Even US government revoked his visa for his US trip. In 2007 before state election, whole media went against him, he was demonized in every newspaper, TV, every world forum etc. all polls were showing his doom, but despite all this he won election again with landslide. There was absolutely no voting fraud.
Why people voted him, he is an excellent administrator, zero corruption, single, never been married, he just work for people of state. His state is best performing state in India and he is best performing chief minister in India.
So India public rejected everything said about him and gave him landslide victory, third in row.
I think we should not presume people are stupid, majority will do right thing.
Same I have seen in South Korea, Taiwan.
foreigner4hillary
03-31-2008, 01:40 PM
Well, after the Media treating Obama like a golden child, I am not surprised. I officially think Media runs this country. The democratic party also tries to help him and be unfair to Hillary Clinton. It is appalling.
(1) No one (No media) ever goes after him after he said "Never been to one of these sermons" and 4 days later said "Yes" he was. They never go after him on this.
(2) They never address that : The speech didn't address why Obama took this guy's advise for 20 years. And, if Obama is so close to this guy, why Obama has zero influence on Rev. Wright and put these hate speeches to stop. Heck! They even sell the DVDs for years.
(3) They never asked :Why that Obama knows fully well that Rev. Wright make contraversial speeches, and Obama still appointed him to be religious theologist senior advisor?
(4) In the View, morning talk show, one of the host, a black woman (I forget her name) said the speech Obama gave was so good, she switched her vote frorm Hillary to Obama, but didn't stated why. -- I personally think the speech was terrible, not addressing issues, making excuses, and promoting white guilt. Additionally, it is unpatriotic.
(5) The media CNN, MSNBC, etc. go on about the great speech Obama made. Eventually, the viewers are brainwashed. Just like Advertisement he placed on TV, except this time it is free. Chris Mathews said "The speech should be read over and over. 6th graders should read it like Huckaberry Fin. The Senior college needs to read it before they graduate. All of us should every now and then." Give me a break. Most people I know who are hardcore democrats said the speech was not great as Obama double talk. Obama avocated why the blacks thought the way Rev. Wright said, but his camp and he never give the same treatment to Ferraro, Hillary, Bill Clinton, or anybody from Hillary camp.
(6) Richardson endorsed Obama for his speech trying to divert people from Rev. Wright's speech. The media is all over it to blind people from the hate speech.
(7) Obama said on the View and many places that Rev. Wright speeches which were played over and over on TV and youtube were over a course of Rev. Wright's lifetime or over 20 years. Give me a break. There were only TWO or THREE speeches that they got on TAPE. That is not snippets from over a lifetime. It is from two. And, I am sure there are many more since it seems (from the video) to give joy Rev. Wright and his people (who listen in that church.)
It is the media's fault. He only gets his votes because of the medias.
Of course...they twist every damn thing to suit their purpose. TBH, I won't be surprised if Obama wins the GE. The media are the true kingmakers. Just have a look at the headlines everyday.
on ABC "Clinton says she's in it till the Bitter end"....no where did she use the words "bitter end". Why put it there then? Sensationalism? I'm truly pissed off with them.
Even Fox has an agenda. Hannity is rehashing the same shit day in day out. Same old Hannity vs. Powers talking about the same old spin. Yes! We get it. Hannity thinks it's a big deal, Powers doesn't agree!!#$@#%
Move on ya nut. There's so much more to cover. FFS...is this some pathetic attempt to show balance? Bunch of tools.
mjno7777
03-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Then we must work harder for PA, she must win by 30 points to make this work. Let's see if we can do the phillies game tomorrow night.
Wyoming Dem
03-31-2008, 02:13 PM
All of this "stuff" about Hillary is designed to get her voters to quit donating. No money, no ads, no ads, over.
Fox was announcing today that her campaign is in "financial trouble". All those in the DNC and other ranking Dems are trying to get you, Hillary's supporters to quit donating because you think she cannot win.
I ABSOLUTELY believe that this election has been rigged from day one. NO ONE had ever heard anything about BO and Hillary was the presumed winner as little as a year ago. THE DNC and the media (which is really bigwig Republican owned) and orchestrated this race from the beginning. God only knows if we can stop them. Latest Gallop poll shows her down by 12, even after all the OB stuff. I am keeping the faith and my perhaps, very baice belief that right will win out that the fraud that is OB will be exposed.
hills
03-31-2008, 02:17 PM
Just ignore it and work hard for this as though it is Hillary's last chance. Rendell knows people are taking PA for granted and we shouldn't do that so ignore all the negativity and continue working hard.
foreigner4hillary
03-31-2008, 02:24 PM
Regarding money...how can people be so blind to the truth. The popular vote between Obama and Hillary is very close. Yet the money that snake is drawing is so much more.
How can that be possible unless he's getting alot of lobbyist/corporation $$$. FFS...it's not hard to connect the dots.
endodoc79
03-31-2008, 02:34 PM
A beautiful and inspirational message from Dr. Maya Angelou on
hillaryclinton.com as she celebrates her 80th birthday. Her perspective and support is truly appreciated. I will contribute today to get to the $3M goal before midnight tonight, 3/31. I will be going to PA to do whatever the campaign needs. This website is here to provide support not only for Hillary's campaign, but for us the volunteers. DON'T GIVE UP ON HER, EVER.
hills
03-31-2008, 02:42 PM
Regarding money...how can people be so blind to the truth. The popular vote between Obama and Hillary is very close. Yet the money that snake is drawing is so much more.
How can that be possible unless he's getting alot of lobbyist/corporation $$$. FFS...it's not hard to connect the dots.
He is http://www.stop-obama.org/
MaryKay
03-31-2008, 03:30 PM
I think he's doing it to keep us all focused.
Annie
03-31-2008, 03:39 PM
Hillary won't win Pa. by as much as previously expected.
She will win it by more!
From your typing to God's eyes! :D
unchainthedogs
03-31-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes, her lead is and will continue to shrink until the campaign lights some fire underneath their butts and start promoting Clinton in the media! Find a way to have her on national media just like Obama is doing! Hello!! It seems that Clinton campaign is asleep!!:mad:
hills
03-31-2008, 03:55 PM
Some news from a poster at Hillary's site
So I am back from canvassing for Hillary in Philadelphia. The staff & volunteers are working non-stop to produce an incredible victory on 4/22/08!
This is the first time that I have campaigned for a candidate & I must say the enthusiasm of the volunteers & staff was breath-taking!
On the ground, we found a lot of support for Hillary & the undecided are also leaning towards voting for her.
I want to share an encounter with you....At the end of the day we were waiting for the 6:55pm train to go back to the Campaign office. A gentleman came onto the platform to chat with us. He knew who we supported from all the buttons & stickers we were wearing. He told us the following:
"I am a 58 year old Independent at heart but I have always voted Republican. However, I have not voted in the last 5 years....I changed my registration this Primary season to Democrat in order to vote for Hillary because she will be a President for me, you, you & you...a President for everyone!"
This re-affirms why I will continue to support and help to elect Hillary the next President of the USA!
I encourage everyone to get involve in anyway you can and do not forget to call, blog & donate!
Amy Dugan
03-31-2008, 04:58 PM
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Charlie Brown
03-31-2008, 05:06 PM
Down playing is all this is...she will kick ass...she must.
hills
03-31-2008, 05:23 PM
Amy, I think you should delete your post before Obama supporters see it. They have no new ideas.
Annie
03-31-2008, 05:32 PM
hills agree andyou should too..... lol!
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