Why are you posting/participating at HCF? [Archive]

Suzan

01-28-2009, 11:05 PM

I agree with Joey. It's fun. Also, I learn things and can share my thoughts. It's a stimulating place to be, but I'm not fond of the attacks. That's my least favorite part of it, but I suppose it goes with the territory. When a forum is open to different points of view, people are going to clash and it's going to get personal.

joeysky18

01-28-2009, 11:14 PM

Also, I learn things and can share my thoughts. It's a stimulating place to be, but I'm not fond of the attacks.

You are right. I think it's fun because I can share my thoughts. And I don't like the attacks as well. When we can exchange opposite idea and discuss without hostility, it is fun.

LucyTN

01-28-2009, 11:15 PM

Gotta have some place to hang and it's too cold to stay on the streets with the rest of the kids.;)

Spang

01-28-2009, 11:17 PM

I'm here to have healthy debate with people who may or may not think like I do.

Aria

01-29-2009, 12:26 AM

Agree with all of the above - plus getting the news and insights into the news of the day.

CGP

01-29-2009, 12:29 AM

I am always interested to read what other people think/feel about various issues, even if they are expressing ideas I may not agree with. There are some issues (gay rights) where my tolerance for dealing with opposing viewpoints is extremely limited, but on most other issues I don't mind communicating with people who have a different point of view.

I am not interested in watching & managing interpersonal conflicts/disagreements as it's very draining and unproductive.

RE:

01-29-2009, 04:19 AM

For starters...you sent me an email.;)

Actually, I keep thinking that if I log on, we will retro back to how it was before plan B....when we were a bunch of busy bees working towards something fantastic. We had a focus and it was awesome. It didn't matter if you were Dem, Third Party, Indy, Repub...if you were for Hillary, that's all that mattered.:cool::D

When plan B came around, we lost many and gained many 'others'. We were still working towards that 'something' and the 'others' just sat back and watched us. Then they were there to pick up the pieces when our hearts got broken and used that to their advantage.

I don't wish for those days, ever again.:(

So...why do I participate/post here at HCF? Well, it used to be a blast and now, not so much, which is why I don't post/participate as much. Now, when I do post, it's usually to counter some off the wall statement and my response is usually negative. I didn't used to be that way.:confused:

It's definately not fun anymore...Without focus, HCF is just a chatroom with everyone yelling/talking over each other.

Lillie

01-29-2009, 04:34 AM

Because I like to be able to have a discussion about Hillary and/or politics with grown-ups. :D

This place, like many others, can get crazy from time to time, but, overall, I feel like I'm reading the posts of people who are generally interested in the DISCUSSIONS and not just slamming others opinions.

foxyladi

01-29-2009, 11:21 AM

Agree with all of the above - plus getting the news and insights into the news of the day.

me too.i get all my news here,except for local weather ...

mcgowan.swan

01-29-2009, 11:28 AM

i enjoy reading what others here think about issues and people.

i enjoy putting in my two cents ( or often less, sometimes more) on certain topics.

i enjoy watching some of the posters go at each other. it is entertaining if you don't get too involved in it. lol

i enjoy seeing what muzza thinks is important and what he thinks about it.

i enjoy the familiarity of the posters and the board.

i feel at home here.

i love the history this board has for me and many others.

it is just fun. like joey said. and there is really no one reason that makes it so. it just is.

i love my hcf posters and my administrator. so i come to be around you all. :)

Redladybird

01-29-2009, 12:50 PM

~~Mostly to be among other Hillary supporters.

~To get information on both side of the coin not just Obama's.

~To read other peoples opinions.

~To share my own opinions.

~To get the latest political news.

xfiles

01-29-2009, 01:17 PM

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/

me too.i get all my news here,except for local weather ...

thebword

01-29-2009, 01:47 PM

To quote Hercule Poirot, to use the "little grey cells".

Honestly, it is addictive.

JustMom

01-30-2009, 01:30 AM

I read here to be fair and balanced (to quote Fox). I read a couple of forums that have both liberals & conservatives, I read one very conservative forum, and I read here. This way I don't miss anything. :D

hillary4change

01-30-2009, 01:37 AM

LucyTN

01-30-2009, 01:46 PM

This was the only place on the net (back in Feb.) that you could speak about Hillary in a positive way and not get shouted down. The web was an echo chamber of Clinton negativity!

Then this became a whirl wind of positive work towards electing the most exciting President in my adult life time!

Now I can come here and get the news on her without having to comb the web searching for a tid bit of info! It really was the only place to read anything positive about Hillary, wasn't it? I left most every other forum I was on after being called about every name in the book for supporting Hillary and failing to idolize Obama. That still happens a lot. ;)

thebword

01-30-2009, 02:07 PM

It really was the only place to read anything positive about Hillary, wasn't it? I left most very other forum I was on after being called about every name in the book for supporting Hillary and failing to idolize Obama. That still happens a lot. ;)

Yeah, the sad thing is - now it happens here too.

Folamix

01-30-2009, 03:20 PM

Redladybird

01-30-2009, 03:52 PM

I will be blunt here. It has been my experience that all of the other pro-Hillary sites are so into bashing all things Obama and have blinders on when it comes to Hillary. Sometimes it comes off like she has been elevated to Goddess status. At any rate, time will tell.

"Sometimes it comes off like she has been elevated to Goddess status."

Hillary was simply the most qualified. I doubt anyone here would call her a Goddess and she does not act like she thinks she's a Goddess. Very refreshing.

Folamix

01-30-2009, 04:43 PM

Hillary was simply the most qualified. I doubt anyone here would call her a Goddess and she does not act like she thinks she's a Goddess. Very refreshing.

I am not saying that she is acting like she is a goddess, far from it. The fact that she is the most qualified goes without saying; she has proven that countless. However, I do think that some of the comments I have seen about her have elevated her a status where she can do no wrong.

I will say this, I have much more faith that she will perform much more admirably as SOS than Obama as POTUS.

joeysky18

01-30-2009, 08:50 PM

This was the only place on the net (back in Feb.) that you could speak about Hillary in a positive way and not get shouted down.

Exactly. That's why I was here too. The rest of the net enjoyed Hillary bashing. And if I tried to defend her, I became a target. It's a bully mentality of the high school transferred to the net.

CGP

01-31-2009, 02:42 AM

I will be blunt here. It has been my experience that all of the other pro-Hillary sites are so into bashing all things Obama and have blinders on when it comes to Hillary. Sometimes it comes off like she has been elevated to Goddess status. At any rate, time will tell.

You are right. It's important to remember HC is by no means perfect and its reasonable/normal for even her supporters to criticize things she does if they are problematic.

VotingHillary

01-31-2009, 03:01 AM

This was my home since March of 2008....and I am just not ready to move out at this point.

CGP

01-31-2009, 03:02 AM

This was my home since March of 2008....and I am just not ready to move out at this point.

Yay! :cool:

CGP

01-31-2009, 03:03 AM

This was my home since March of 2008....and I am just not ready to move out at this point.

Me too. That partially explains my own inability to keep the forum closed!

VotingHillary

01-31-2009, 03:18 AM

Me too. That partially explains my own inability to keep the forum closed!

I more than understand...I swore I would get my life back and leave all of this behind after the November election, but then I thought if I put a TIME FRAME on the goal....then how committed was I to the goal?

There is still a goal yet unachieved....

thebword

01-31-2009, 09:39 AM

You are right. It's important to remember HC is by no means perfect and its reasonable/normal for even her supporters to criticize things she does if they are problematic.

Exactly! That goes for all politicians, even Pres. Obama!

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Brooke

01-31-2009, 09:54 AM

Because I love Hillary, I love the people here, and I love politics.

CGP

01-31-2009, 02:11 PM

Exactly! That goes for all politicians, even Pres. Obama!

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Absolutely, of course. No politician should be immune from analysis & criticism.

evolin

01-31-2009, 07:18 PM

CGP

01-31-2009, 07:54 PM

This forum was the only sane, balanced place on the net during the campaign. Now that HRC has lost, my next hope would be that this group of people who fought for Hillary will be willing to fight for a better government process.
I am not unhappy with the moves Obama has made so far. I don't intend to criticize him unless there is something to criticize.
I read to find new information and others reaction to the news. I hope that this forum can maintain a watchdog capacity over events and the people here will be able to influence events in a positive manner. I hope this forum can evolve and continue as a force for good. That is the reason I came back.
My only compaint about Obama so far is having to look at his face EVERYWHERE. ....almost like Saddam. This morning I noticed he is even on the Incredimail letters and cards.

A fair and balanced approach. I like it.

I agree also that Obama coverage has reached saturation point. It did a long while back but now its worse he is the president. I would like to see increased media coverage of other figures in the government. Although Obama is the "leader", he is ultimately just one person. There are many other influential figures involved in operating the government at the highest level and more coverage of them would help reduce the overdosing on Obama.

CGP

02-21-2009, 09:00 PM

Bumping.

joeysky18

02-21-2009, 09:03 PM

Why are you posting/participating at HCF?

Because I'm obsessed! Just kidding. I've got to go now before I'm really obsessed. :)

CGP

02-21-2009, 09:13 PM

Because I'm obsessed! Just kidding. I've got to go now before I'm really obsessed. :)

I think anyone who has been posting since the start of the forum (& has endured all of the changes!) is obsessed - that means you and me both!!!

joeysky18

02-21-2009, 09:17 PM

I think anyone who has been posting since the start of the forum (& has endured all of the changes!) is obsessed - that means you and me both!!!

You are right, and denial is a typical symptom. :D

CGP

02-21-2009, 09:20 PM

You are right, and denial is a typical symptom. :D

Did you vote in this poll?

Are you addicted to HCF? (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=18363)

IndyPUMA

02-21-2009, 09:21 PM

I'm just simply addicted.

CGP

02-21-2009, 09:22 PM

I'm just simply addicted.

You will have to vote here (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=18363)!!

Mallory

02-21-2009, 10:55 PM

I joined originally last August because I was so disillusioned at the result of the Primaries. I was just ELATED to find so many rational people. I'd come to think that to be Democrat meant to be like Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean or Harry Reid. (SHUDDER!) When I found other people who thought as I did, it was an awakening.

I returned because I am SO, SO, SO, disillusioned about Obama. I KNOW he's only been in office for a month. IF he had done nothing... I'd have been fine with that. Learning curve, getting a feel for things, whatever. The fact that he has rushed in and just forced bad legislation, that he continues to fear-monger and send the stock market into the pits... the fact that he does not appear to be competent, can't even chose a cabinet that is moderately respectable and he doesn't instill confidence scares me. I thought that PERHAPS I would find people that could RATIONALLY explain some of his actions. I would LIKE to feel better about him because I truly do not want to see this country go through another period like the Great Depression. I truly do not want him to fail at keeping us safe or fail this country's financial needs.

So far, I haven't seen anything that is making me feel better. I've just seen lot of practical people who share my concerns and lots of blind devotion from Obama fans mixed with a heavy dose of "What's wrong with Socialism" from some.

IndyPUMA

02-21-2009, 11:06 PM

You will have to vote here (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=18363)!!

Done :0)

Meg

02-21-2009, 11:09 PM

I think anyone who has been posting since the start of the forum (& has endured all of the changes!) is obsessed - that means you and me both!!!

Hey... it's not an obsession! :p

Why am I posting here? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/bagelbite90/JC_thinking.gif That is a good question.

PartyOfOne

02-21-2009, 11:20 PM

The British novelist E. M. Forster (Where Angels Fear to Tread and A Passage to India among his works) is credited with posing the rhetorical question, "How do I know what I think until I see what I say?" If he were around today he might also ask "How do I know what you think until I see what you post?"

The_Basseteer

02-22-2009, 02:02 AM

I post here because the forum where I used to post, Ankle Biting Pundits, had folded. I find this educational because it lets me polish my arguments against liberal/democrat talking points.

VotingHillary

02-22-2009, 02:07 AM

I post here because the forum where I used to post, Ankle Biting Pundits, had folded. I find this educational because it lets me polish my arguments against liberal/democrat talking points.

so does that mean you are going to leave us moderates alone? :p

(just teasing ya, Bass)

Tim4Hillary

02-22-2009, 02:52 AM

I love; the vibe of the community, the leadership of the forum, politics, and Hillary!

The_Basseteer

02-22-2009, 02:17 PM

so does that mean you are going to leave us moderates alone? :p
No, you moderates are on my radar too. I am surprised at the number of agreements I do have to some of my posts; either I'm not as offensive as I have to be (Should I try harder?) or a lot of you people are more constitutional conservatives then you are willing to admit.

Aria

02-22-2009, 02:28 PM

...I am surprised at the number of agreements I do have to some of my posts; either I'm not as offensive as I have to be (Should I try harder?) or a lot of you people are more constitutional conservatives then you are willing to admit.

I'd say that you are making your points just fine, and offensive we don't need.:eek: Your last observation is interesting.

joeysky18

02-22-2009, 05:21 PM

If he were around today he might also ask "How do I know what you think until I see what you post?"

Interesting thought.

CGP

02-22-2009, 06:30 PM

I find this educational because it lets me polish my arguments against liberal/democrat talking points.

And vice versa for me against conversative/republican talking points.

Amy Dugan

02-22-2009, 06:32 PM

promoting a fundraising event

CGP

02-22-2009, 06:46 PM

promoting a fundraising event

Very practical!

Yes, do keep the forum informed about any Dem fundraising events of note.

CGP

02-25-2009, 09:40 PM

Please share your answers.

mavfin

02-25-2009, 10:52 PM

And vice versa for me against conversative/republican talking points.

Problem with that is, Murray, that while I'm a conservative, I'll get hostile if someone calls me a Republican! (or a Democrat). I'm also not a *social* conservative, which is really the kind of conservative that is the most hostile to you.

So where does that leave you and me? :D

As far as why I'm here, I enjoyed the dialogue pre-election, and, I work 3rd shift IT helpdesk, and have time to kill four nights a week. There's a pretty good core of independent thinkers here who I seem to get along with. We agree to disagree on many things, but agree on the important things. Those of you who are really really pro-Obama, well, don't expect me to like the man anytime soon. I don't think he understands the important things, and I didn't vote for him.

CGP

02-25-2009, 11:01 PM

Problem with that is, Murray, that while I'm a conservative, I'll get hostile if someone calls me a Republican! (or a Democrat). I'm also not a *social* conservative, which is really the kind of conservative that is the most hostile to you.

So where does that leave you and me? :D

We're fine. The "hawaii" thread just confirmed that! ;)

I should be more specific with what bothers me rather then grouping them all under a "conservativism" umbrella.

It's really views/agendas which are anti-gay/anti-choice/anti-immigration/anti-women/anti-minorities which bother me the most.

I don't have much of a reaction to different viewpoints on financial/economic matters.

That said, I think it's helpful to participate in discussions with people whose views I do not share and do not agree with. Hence, why I am encouraging people of all political persuasions to participate at HCF rather than just those people whose views I can "stamp" all day long!

The only other issue which gets a strong reaction from me is healthcare.

DeLana

02-25-2009, 11:32 PM

This is simply the best political forum on the net :D It's extremely busy and the number and variety of articles posted is just amazing. I checked out a few other forums and they were very slow and/or very boring (it's no fun to argue with someone who shares your opinion). I love a good political discussion!

Plus, of course, I get all the news about Hillary, the most qualified woman to become POTUS in a generation. Oh, I wish it could have been :( Still, it's good to keep informed about her activities as SoS and to hear positive news about her.

Thanks, Murray, for the good job you're doing. :thumbsup:

DeLana

carmaken

02-25-2009, 11:37 PM

I am here for the same reason I came here over a year ago. It was the most interesting place to talk politics in a sane way. For awhile, after August and through November it became scary, but it's gone back to what it used to be. I really like finding out what other people think. It's more interesting than ever before. I wish our congressmen and senators could work something similar out in the way they debate and pursue their politics.

CGP

02-25-2009, 11:47 PM

For awhile, after August and through November it became scary

I hear ya - I was hiding in a cave somewhere. :surprise:

Laura Cereta

02-25-2009, 11:48 PM

Why? Because intellectual stimulation is the second-best kind! ;)

VotingHillary

02-25-2009, 11:50 PM

I wish our congressmen and senators could work something similar out in the way they debate and pursue their politics.

amen to that...

hillarystamp!genericstamp!obamastamp!

CGP

02-25-2009, 11:51 PM

Why? Because intellectual stimulation is the second-best kind! ;)

I won't ask what the first best is! :e6:

VotingHillary

02-25-2009, 11:53 PM

I won't ask what the first best is! :e6:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

hillary4change

02-26-2009, 01:48 AM

I still love it here. Can't help it. Best place on the net!

Palinfan

02-26-2009, 08:29 AM

A litmus test of people's motivations/interests in being here this time round.

Sometimes it's too easy to hang out with like minded people and make fun of the other side.
Righties hang with righties and talk about how "all" lefties are morons.
Lefties hang with lefties and say the same about the right.

If we make attempts to have conversations and challenge each other, we may not persuade other people, but at least we might learn things we didn't know before.
I can still disagree with liberal democrats here, but I come away with a better understanding of their point of view, and hopefully in the process I can knock down some stereotypes about republicans too.

CGP

02-26-2009, 07:45 PM

Sometimes it's too easy to hang out with like minded people and make fun of the other side.
Righties hang with righties and talk about how "all" lefties are morons.
Lefties hang with lefties and say the same about the right.

If we make attempts to have conversations and challenge each other, we may not persuade other people, but at least we might learn things we didn't know before.
I can still disagree with liberal democrats here, but I come away with a better understanding of their point of view, and hopefully in the process I can knock down some stereotypes about republicans too.

genericstamp!

Aria

02-26-2009, 08:38 PM

Sometimes it's too easy to hang out with like minded people and make fun of the other side. Righties hang with righties and talk about how "all" lefties are morons. Lefties hang with lefties and say the same about the right..

Yes, and it seems a complete waste of time. However, people cling to their own when feeling hopeless, or needing to know they are not alone in their beliefs or opposition. Then, of course, the power of such a group could possibly come into play at some point, and that's one of the underlying objectives.

If we make attempts to have conversations and challenge each other, we may not persuade other people, but at least we might learn things we didn't know before. I can still disagree with liberal democrats here, but I come away with a better understanding of their point of view, and hopefully in the process I can knock down some stereotypes about republicans too.

Exactly, and more and more I am seeing this happening here. Ain't it great!:thumbsup:

CGP

02-26-2009, 08:44 PM

Exactly, and more and more I am seeing this happening here. Ain't it great!:thumbsup:

It's worth a try, that's for sure!

IndyPUMA

02-26-2009, 08:52 PM

This site gives me a 'tingle up my leg'. ;)

Aria

02-26-2009, 09:22 PM

This site gives me a 'tingle up my leg'. ;)

Hee hee.[-X Maybe we should send it to Uno Who!

Palinfan

02-26-2009, 11:16 PM

Exactly, and more and more I am seeing this happening here. Ain't it great!

yes it is.

joeysky18

02-26-2009, 11:33 PM

Sometimes it's too easy to hang out with like minded people and make fun of the other side.
Righties hang with righties and talk about how "all" lefties are morons.
Lefties hang with lefties and say the same about the right.

If we make attempts to have conversations and challenge each other, we may not persuade other people, but at least we might learn things we didn't know before.
I can still disagree with liberal democrats here, but I come away with a better understanding of their point of view, and hopefully in the process I can knock down some stereotypes about republicans too.

I like your style. :thumbsup: