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Patsy
04-01-2008, 03:39 AM
Op-Ed by two staffers regarding the Bosnia trip.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/opinion/01muscatine.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=login

During a week of nonstop coverage, few journalists went beyond the irresistible video footage to ask what else happened on this trip and how Mrs. Clinton might have erred in the details about the landing in Tuzla. So here are some facts that provide context:

And as to why the time on the ground was extended...

In a recent e-mail message to a British blogger, Ejup Ganic, who was the acting president of Bosnia during Mrs. Clinton’s visit, wrote: “I remember that visit quite well. Although the NATO troops were in Tuzla, we still believed that some positions on the hills were occupied by radical Serbs, so I was worried about the overall safety.” The planned welcoming ceremony was shortened, he said, but it still lasted a bit longer than expected because a nongovernment group brought along a little girl to sing to the first lady.

Annie
04-01-2008, 03:56 AM
Op-Ed by two staffers regarding the Bosnia trip.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/opinion/01muscatine.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=login

Kitty why don't you blog that over at Fox - Greta's blog. I just copied and pasted two from the Marxist article re Odinga and they were pretty long so it might be a bit much to do this one on Bosnia too but I think it is important as people are still talking about it.

I would copy and paste the article and of course also put in the link.... Somebody should do it.... Greta seems to be interested in doing a good job....let's help her. My blogs are on page 7 of comments...wow....amazing...

appalachian blue
04-01-2008, 04:00 AM
check out this article

and i think its genuine ..it was found on a comment of a blog during a washington post blog fight against hilary today...i think its says something about this issue

that is critical to the race and the public's awareness of what was going on on that trip to tuzla

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/25/224531/594 Lexis-by Ron Fournier, AP, March 25, 1996 Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal �thank you� to US troops�Mrs. Clinton hosted a USO show with comedian Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow�highlight of her trip were visits to two fortified posts outside the US base in Tuzla. Even President Clinton, restricted to base by bad weather in Jan., did not see as much of this war-wracked region as Mrs. Clinton�Riflemen rushed to brush line as the helicopter landed and surrounded her as she walked in the post. Located in a �separation zone,� the US outpost nestles between two tree lines�Security was tight-fighter jets accompanied her C-17 cargo plane to Tuzla�

Annie
04-01-2008, 04:04 AM
check out this article

and i think its genuine ..it was found on a comment of a blog during a washington post blog fight against hilary today...i think its says something about this issue

that is critical to the race and the public's awareness of what was going on on that trip to tuzla

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/25/224531/594 Lexis-by Ron Fournier, AP, March 25, 1996 Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal �thank you� to US troops�Mrs. Clinton hosted a USO show with comedian Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow�highlight of her trip were visits to two fortified posts outside the US base in Tuzla. Even President Clinton, restricted to base by bad weather in Jan., did not see as much of this war-wracked region as Mrs. Clinton�Riflemen rushed to brush line as the helicopter landed and surrounded her as she walked in the post. Located in a �separation zone,� the US outpost nestles between two tree lines�Security was tight-fighter jets accompanied her C-17 cargo plane to Tuzla�

Appalachian Blue (love your name) Anyhow it would be good if you would blog that over at Greta's van sustern's blog.... the link is in one of the other posts and also if you could add the link that I listed above your post also. I already left two large ones and don't want to hog the space but I can. Just seems the more people the merrier and the more we contain this Bosnia stuff the better. I put in the Odinga stuff and Dick Morris....ha ha.....

appalachian blue
04-01-2008, 04:07 AM
lets get this out to the watching world


it NEEDS TO CORRECT THE NOTION THAT HLLARY SIMPLY MADE UP THE DANGERS THAT CONFRONTED HER IN THAT PERIOD AND ON THE VISIT

IT IS AMAZING HOW THE DETAILS OF A REPORTED AP NEWS ITEM WERE OVERLOOKED BY ALL OF THE NATIONAL MEDIA LAST WEEK AND THAT NOTHING BUT DISDAIN AND SMEAR TACTICS WERE MOUNTED AGAINST HER

AND IT WAS VERY VERY DAMAGING TO HER AS PER SOME NATIONAL POLLING ISSUES

AND AGAIN IT RAISED THE NEGATIVE

WAS THIS THE SWIFT BOATING TACTICS OF OBAMA's MEDIA DRIVEN ELITES?

Patsy
04-01-2008, 04:32 AM
Kitty why don't you blog that over at Fox - Greta's blog. I just copied and pasted two from the Marxist article re Odinga and they were pretty long so it might be a bit much to do this one on Bosnia too but I think it is important as people are still talking about it.

I would copy and paste the article and of course also put in the link.... Somebody should do it.... Greta seems to be interested in doing a good job....let's help her. My blogs are on page 7 of comments...wow....amazing...


Done blogging with Greta.

Off to bed now though. Heavy Fund Raising today and have to hit up the rest of the town tomorrow, which is actually today:)

I'm going for $50k in 2 days!!! Wish me luck....

CGP
04-01-2008, 10:09 AM
Yes, please leave this woman (Hillary Clinton) alone!!!!

She did a tremendous thing - travel to a war torn country to represent the USA in diplomacy - and 12 years later she gets crucified for it by ungrateful and desperate Obama supporters (and that's includes the media as they are Obama supporter #1).

Disgusting.

swannyj
04-01-2008, 10:54 AM
That could be dangerous, Fox is only Hillary's friend when talking about BO. Not sure we want to bring Bosnia to the forefront again. That info was out there when they were slamming her, didn't matter then will not matter now.

endodoc79
04-01-2008, 12:03 PM
This article also speaks to the mean-spirited, sexist coverage that Hillary has received. The late night comics have not been kind and that is part of what the Women's Media Center has been trying to deal with and is the focus of Our Peaceful Protest scheduled for Friday April 11 at 8am, Rockefeller Center, NYC. The quote by Mr. Ganic is an important one, about the inherent danger of the mission and in my own mind makes sense as to why someone my have remebered it the way Hillary did.

foreigner4hillary
04-01-2008, 01:58 PM
You know, that's what annoys me. All this +ve info, but they choose to ignore it. Instead, they go dig up that little kid who claims she feels insulted. Gee.

Annie
04-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Well last night or early this am depending where you live I blogged the other stuff..... It was full of haters late at night...But some will read and perhaps think - even if only one. I wonder how Greta feels this mornign....