Latest PA Poll (Rasumussen) - 1/4/08

[WV4Hillary]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary

New poll out of PA from Rasmussen has Hillary at 47 and Obama at 42. What's going on there?

Meanwhile the daily tracking poll at Rasmussen is Obama 46 to Hillary 45. Still...PA worries me.

[movingtous]

I wouldn't worry about the polls, too much. There's seems to be one constant recently, and that is that they're constantly off!

[Soren]

I went to C's house on Saturday to meet people and to work. I asked C.: "C., Do you think she still can win?"

C. said, "I don't care! I'm not quitting. I'm going all the way, every day. She's not quitting and I'm not quitting; I'm taking her as far as I can. Look how far she's taken us!"

In fact, C's going all the way to Pennsylvania to help on the ground. That's the spirit!!!!

Keep on Keeping on. Obama has the capacity to fall flat on his face. Hillary has the capacity to rise! Well, I should change that. Obama has the capacity to fall flat on his face (again) and the populace might notice it next time. Hillary has the capacity to change hearts: look what she did to Joe Scarborough!

[mjno7777]

Let's not give up and remember our goal: PA by 75 to 80% then we have North Carolina and Indiana. Winning North Carolina would really make a STATEMENT.

[Mom4Hillary]

New poll out of PA from Rasmussen has Hillary at 47 and Obama at 42. What's going on there?

Meanwhile the daily tracking poll at Rasmussen is Obama 46 to Hillary 45. Still...PA worries me. Is this starting to get hopeless...?

Folks -- I live in PA and we desperately need to you commit to making phone calls for Hillary. Obama is touring the state and there are a lot of college students here who support him. But there are also a lot of blue-collar, working middle-class folk as well who are more likely to support Hillary. But they will only go to the polls for her if they hear that it's not impossible for her to win... The media has been so negative and I fear that a lot of the votes that were planning to go her way may not... So PLEASE take time today to make 10 phone calls for Hillary. Go to HillaryClinton.com and you will find directions for how to make calls. THANKS so much from your Pennsylvania friend! Love goes out to all of you!

[brussell]

I take this poll very seriously.

Juan Williams on Fox News, whom I respect, said today if Obama keeps this up then it could be game over for Hillary.

We need to get to work in PA. - blogs, calls, etc.

[supra5677]

Last reputable poll yesterday was 51/38.. Haven't you guys figured it out yet. The poll they take is slanted to begin with. Do you remember New Hampshire 12 points off!! Don't pay any attention to the media. Hillary represents us " the little guy" Obama and Mccain represent the corporate types meaning the corporate media. Hillary just needs to out do Obama on the ground meet more people 1 on 1 not with commercials or the awful cable news..

Brian
California

[davo_pa]

Last reputable poll yesterday was 51/38.. Haven't you guys figured it out yet. The poll they take is slanted to begin with. Do you remember New Hampshire 12 points off!! Don't pay any attention to the media. Hillary represents us " the little guy" Obama and Mccain represent the corporate types meaning the corporate media. Hillary just needs to out do Obama on the ground meet more people 1 on 1 not with commercials or the awful cable news..

Brian
California

I was wondering, do we have a lot of people working on the ground in PA?

Apparently he is everywhere on TV: PA, IN, NC, even PR very soon I was told. I've been on the phone all day calling PA I assure you. :p

[jgilmore]

Remember a poll is a quick snapshot. She's been beaten up a lot in the media. We need to refocus and remember the protest on the 11th, and come up with other ways to shake this thing up and let people know Hillary can still win. She is supposed to be on with Leno Thursday. That will help. She needs similar events and we need to be vigilant in our calls, blogs, protests, emails, etc.

[rene.d]

She needs more primetime ads in PA.
Yesterday's fundraising goal was really important, but she will need more support over the next couple weeks.

[Charlie Brown]

Last Time I Looked The Aol Straw Poll Has Her Ahead In Every State And 20 Points Ahead In Pa..

Also,Some seniors dont blog or even have a computer, those are the people that need to be at there voting day . I speak to many and they do see through the medias bias. they will vote Clinton for that reason alone. BUT!!!!! they need to get there voting day.
Go to you local retirement homes and speak about Hillary and if they need rides or just incouragement...many want to see another Clinton in office again.


~Change minds one at a time~

[samkm]

These are posted elsewhere so dont need to start new threads..

I just want you to know that the world is realizing what we have in this sham of a candidate.

(March 31, 2008): "Obama Won't Fly" (Tampa Tribune)
http://www2.highlandstoday.com/content/2008/mar/31/obama-wont-fly/

Quote:
A Japanese proverb declares, "When the character of a man is not clear to you, look to his friends." And so it is that we now know more about Sen. Barak Obama. His former spiritual minister, adviser and close friend, Rev. Jeremiah Wright has made it abundantly clear that his America is not Ronald Reagan's "shining city on a hill." Far from it.
Obama has been criticized for not having enough experience. America didn't know much about him other than his excellent public speaking persona. We now know the experience factor is vastly overshadowed by his pathetic poor judgment.

I might understand how difficult it is for Barack Obama to balance black racism and yet give the appearance of being a uniter in his run for the Democrat ticket. For him it's a Catch-22 situation. You can't support one without insulting the other. However, the days of Jim Crow are long past. Many white Americans are offended by racism and will not identify with it. In spite of the fact that when it comes to interracial crime today, 80 percent are black on white, not the other way around

(April 1, 2008): "Hate speech inexcusable" (Ventura County Star, CA)
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/apr/01/hate-speech-inexcusable/

Crisp thinks that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's comments are just black church business as usual and that Wright is a prophet. I say baloney. Let's call a duck a duck. Wright's speech is hate speech.

I think a lot of Americans are sick and tired of the excuses being made for Wright and of people like Crisp who attempt to justify such comments. Wright's hate speech is inexcusable, and he makes no attempt to hide his loathing of the United States. But Crisp says Wright is just a little over the top.

Sen. Barack Obama makes excuses for Wright, as well. Wright's association with Louis Farrakhan and his visits to countries hostile to the United States only confirm his obvious anti-American convictions.

I'd like to ask Obama which is worse: making hate speech or excusing it?

— David Ray, Agoura Hills

(April 1, 2008): "The Other Rev. Wright Scandal" - How the Media Covered Up Known Info on Wright
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31470.html

In March of 2007, The New York Times reported that Obama had "disinvited" Rev. Wright to his announcement of his presidential campaign, on the advice of an unnamed campaign adviser, and told Rev. Wright that it was necessary to do so because his sermons could be "rough."

Voters in Iowa should be furious that The New York Times did not follow up back then.

If it had, would Barack have won the Iowa caucuses?

Of course not.

Even Huffington Post had an article yesterday with "Should Obama drop out" or something like that for title, and it was a seriously written article.

Today's the news about Barack's false claims are big time hitting the news. He has no place to hide except back once again in Virgin Islands but this time media may not let him take a drink of life.

What was that again... lies coming home to roost? Yes, that fits quite aptly.

On the flipside, media has clarified that Hillary did have an exciting trip to Tuzla and she was indeed taken quite fast on the tarmac (for a First Lady), without any planned reception (she was briefed on this), and the small girl who welcomed her was unexpected/unplanned, yet Hillary was gracious, there were two other stops in the trip, and she does have that and a LOT MORE experience in actual international work which is the point anyway.

Meanwhile, just yesterday, popular Media has shared with audience two key factors:
- O'Reilly said on radio that 3 key media were asked by Barack's side to go on "drop-out Hillary" campaign.
- Lou Dobbs shared the results of his audience polled...72% of his audience thought/felt that media is biased against Hillary.

[Joe from WI]

Dont read too much into the polls.

But i do agree with some of you that we should STEP UP. Because 4/22 is still far away, anything can happen. We cannot take anything for granted. PA is crucial; if Hillary can win BIG, all her critics will shut up. So we need to STEP UP and :
1) Make Calls
2) Donate
3) Volunteer in PA (please more bodies on the ground).

PLs contact Hillary Clinton official website to do all above 3. Everyone makes a small effort and we will have a HUGE effect on campaign.

Thank you.

[xfiles]

Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 03/10 - 03/31 - 52.0 37.8 Clinton +14.2
Rasmussen 03/31 - 03/31 730 LV 47 42 Clinton +5.0
SurveyUSA 03/29 - 03/31 LV 53 41 Clinton +12.0
PPP (D) 03/15 - 03/16 597 LV 56 30 Clinton +26.0
Franklin & Marshall 03/11 - 03/16 294 LV 51 35 Clinton +16.0
Quinnipiac 03/10 - 03/16 1304 LV 53 41 Clinton +12.0


Per Real Clear Politics.....

We need to keep sending stuff to the media and blogging Obama's lies.

Often his comment is I can't remember so if he can't remember things very well, he shouldn't be President. A president needs an iron clad memory!

[Area504]

I'm actually fully expecting some "funny business" to come out of the PA primary; and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Howard Dean has something up his sleeve to get a win (by any means necessary) for BO or at least make it very close.

It wouldn't be the first time that election fraud was committed by a major political party. :rolleyes:

[SunnyInCal]

I actually skimmed the article that breaks down the poll. I think a lot of this has to do with the Bosnia fiasco. This is the kind of mistake that is such a non-issue but can really hurt Hillary. She need to take a pause and know what she's saying is correct. The polls will then go back in her favor.

It really is amazing to me that Bosnia mis-statements mean more to the American people than Rev Wright.

[SunnyInCal]

Another piece of advice for the campaign. Make better use of Murtha's endorsement. Murtha was against the war, but he hasn't come out and said in a big way that he was against it then, as was Obama, yet he's choosing Hillary. He needs to get some air time somewhere. Obama still leads in PA by 17 points for those who consider Iraq their top concern. That is the lead Hillary needs to cut into.

[SD]

do not give up! most of these polls are crap. there is one i have voted on every single day it has been up. what real poll allows a person to vote repeatedly? this is a scare tactic to get hillary supporters to toss up their hands, decide it is not worth their time and not vote.

turn off the news, ignore the polls, and keep hillary going! if she drops out, anything later revealed that will take obama down will be moot. and i do believe that eventually somebody will find a way to make these clones stop and look at the real obama. don't let that happen too late.

[samkm]

Our leader is strong and gaining momentum... very fast.
So, no way, we are backing out of anything.

[JJ4Hillary]

Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 03/10 - 03/31 - 52.0 37.8 Clinton +14.2
Rasmussen 03/31 - 03/31 730 LV 47 42 Clinton +5.0
SurveyUSA 03/29 - 03/31 LV 53 41 Clinton +12.0
PPP (D) 03/15 - 03/16 597 LV 56 30 Clinton +26.0
Franklin & Marshall 03/11 - 03/16 294 LV 51 35 Clinton +16.0
Quinnipiac 03/10 - 03/16 1304 LV 53 41 Clinton +12.0


Per Real Clear Politics.....

We need to keep sending stuff to the media and blogging Obama's lies.

Often his comment is I can't remember so if he can't remember things very well, he shouldn't be President. A president needs an iron clad memory!


Thank you!:) I think the odrama camp contact Rasmussen site for them to lower the score.:mad::mad::mad:

[tommy]

Guys, keep the spirit up. Hillary needs us, and we need her. We are fighting till the very end. :)

[Alessandro Machi]

New poll out of PA from Rasmussen has Hillary at 47 and Obama at 42. What's going on there?

Meanwhile the daily tracking poll at Rasmussen is Obama 46 to Hillary 45. Still...PA worries me. Is this starting to get hopeless...?

No offense but you sound like a secret Obama fan.

it's this type of panic attack they have set on via the media and the internet.

[WV4Hillary]

Secret...Obama...fan?

Ummm...yeah...let me take a break from emailing the media and organizing a protest against media bias so I can send Obama a donation. Give me a break...

[JJ4Hillary]

He is not a odama supporter. I guess he was just worried or mad at the false polling.:(:(

I was heated too, but after i check SuveryUSA poll, i feel bettter.:D:D:D

[WV4Hillary]

SHE!?

Guys...for the 2nd time..I am NOT a woman. Do I need to add this to my signature!? I am a straight male for Hillary! GEEZE!

[Carolyn]

I agree with the poster above who said Hill took a big (and grossly unfair) hit on the Bosnia non-issue, and dipped sharply in the national polls (and apparently in this single poll out of PA - the others have all had her up in PA by double-digits). However, she is beginning to narrow the gap again in Gallup & Rasmussen polls, so fear not!

Call me deluded -- I just have this really good feeling about how this is gonna play out, and it won't be played out until the convention. Period. Lots of time for the death blow to be dealt to the Obama campaign, and I feel it coming. :D

[SunnyInCal]

Woo hooo, welcome :)

Guys...for the 2nd time..I am NOT a woman. Do I need to add this to my signature!? I am a straight male for Hillary! GEEZE!

[Carolyn]

"Hillary Clinton has pulled closer to Barack Obama in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on the election, with Obama up 49% to 45%. John McCain has a 2 percentage point advantage over both Democrats in the latest general election trial heats."

She keeps going, and going, and going...until she wins.

[JJ4Hillary]

SHE!?

Guys...for the 2nd time..I am NOT a woman. Do I need to add this to my signature!? I am a straight male for Hillary! GEEZE!


Sorry about that!;) I didn't know. :o

[Valencia]

New poll out of PA from Rasmussen has Hillary at 47 and Obama at 42. What's going on there?

Meanwhile the daily tracking poll at Rasmussen is Obama 46 to Hillary 45. Still...PA worries me. Is this starting to get hopeless...?

She will win :)

[Christines]

I just heard that Obama was gaining in Pennsylvania on CNN. They said it was more Obama money. He is spending 3 times more on TV ads.

[WV4Hillary]

Ha..it's alright. She did go up in Gallup and Rasmussen today...he now leads by only 1 pt in Rasmussen and only 4 in Gallup, compared to like 6 and 10 three days ago.

Funny thing is...only that one poll showed him getting anywhere near her in PA. According to the post above me, he's spending 3 to 1 against her in PA also. She hasn't even put a TV ad up yet. So if he can't beat her even when outspending her like that...then once she starts with her ads she'll probably go up.

[johnny51981]

New poll out of PA from Rasmussen has Hillary at 47 and Obama at 42. What's going on there?

Meanwhile the daily tracking poll at Rasmussen is Obama 46 to Hillary 45. Still...PA worries me. Is this starting to get hopeless...?

I kinda have to laugh that you have a quote regarding Hillary's stunning win in New Hampshire there in your signature, but are worried about PA based on the polling. :)

I have a strong feeling that this mini surge of Obama's in PA is a flash in the pan.

[rene.d]

WV4Hillary--She has ads out, but I haven't seen any in primetime hours where I live. I think they're concentrating on Philly area. I read in NYT, I think, that she is using the same ad strategy that she used in Ohio.

[WV4Hillary]

Ha, Johnny, that's true. I wasn't worried about her winning PA...just worried about her winning it huge..like 12+. Also...you stole my avatar dude!!

[johnny51981]

They are clearly different avatars. LOL Compare them side by side like we used to do in the Highlights Magazines. :D

[MaryKay]

Did you all notice that Rasmussen is way off from those other polls? We should not let our guard down, but there's something strange going on there for sure.

[WV4Hillary]

Haha..WELL...mine's brighter...yours has for president at the bottom, while mine has it at the top...mine has her website.

Conclusion: You have a vintage sticker..I have the newer one.

[johnny51981]

Lol.

[foreigner4hillary]

Show them his lies and his inaction!

YouTube - "Hope!"

[HillWill]

Remember they registered a lot of new voters, so maybe these numbers are reflective of the addition of the new bunch. Most likely college students who weren't registered in PA.

[Peppermint Patty]

I sense the sneaky hand of the DNC today we know they asked the media to start calling for her to quit; I suspect they fixed the polling too and whatever else they can. and now the media is focusing on her campaign's financial troubles Yes, they are in for the slaughter.

They obviously decided they can no longer ask her directly to quit so the new tactic is to show the polls going down in PA for her and try to get her to quit before PA happens.

21 days is a long time until PA.

[Carla]

Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/ to find all the PA location headquarters. Call them and find out what you can do for them.

Make calls! I have phone scripts from the campaign that I email out to people. The calls can be made from any state as Hillary is paying for the calls through a conference call system.

Right now I have PA and Oregon scripts. Everyone must be registered in Oregon by April 29 as a democrat in order to vote for Hillary. I know making calls is not always fun, but it is the best way to inform people. Make 5 calls a day, if that is all you can do. I have 50 people making calls for Hillary right now, so that is 250 calls a day minimum!

Here is more info regarding Oregon: http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/dbcs/elections/index_ue.shtml

I am going to Philly from April 12-23 and will be canvassing colleges there. I need people to send me any leads from facebook, myspace, etc.. so I can connect college kids with campaign people all over the state. I was able to connect Cal U of PA this way.

Register at my website and on my myspace page to see what you do and how you can help. Check out other people's pro-Hillary websites.

Email me with suggestions and ideas. I will use them.

No matter what state you are in,you should have a Hillary sign in your yard. Go to her website and buy one. They are eight dollars.

Contact me at Carlaforhillary@gmail.com

Thanks, all!

[Mrsawd]

People to get to the colleges !

the young people are the ones that Obama has believing his BS

[maximuss]

.WE MUST TAKE THIS POLL SERIOUSLY> The good news from the polls out today is that the PA vote is 3 weeks away.The polls now are important but it is the polls during the 2-3 days before voting that really matter.Just look at Texas and Ohio. Before this poll came out , It had occured to me that there was too much focus on attacking Obama rather than promoting and taking action for Hilary. I like these attacks on Obama but what really matters is what actions we are taking for Hilary. PA is still ours to loose and we have a very good chance of a 20%+ victory only if we continue to work for Hilary. Voters registration work in PA seemed to have been good but we must now take action to get out the votes. Hilary's chance of getting the nomination depends on winning the popular vote count. This is achievable and victory in PA is crucial.

Does anyone have any news about the voter registration efforts and the ground game in NC and Indiana ?.

[joeysky18]

I think the poll reflected that the Bosnia snipper hurt her.

Although it's trivial, but MSM were successful in fanning the myth that Hillary is not trustworthy.

We need to fan Obama's problem of integrity and dishonestly. And we have a lot a ammo. Rezko tie, Wright is now not his mentor, etc. MSM refused to cover the story.

[pearson]

Rasmussen, Public Policy Polling (PPP) and SurveyUSA (among others) use Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology. It is an automated method that does not use humans for interviewing - all questions are pre-recorded. The respondent presses in their response on the phone keypad ("Press 1 for Clinton, Press 2 for Obama...")

Problems with this method include:
1) Higher "break-off" rates -- people quit the survey sooner. No human to persuade them to finish the poll.
2) No way to verify that the person who answered the call is the intended sample unit.
3) Higher non-response: people who refuse to interact with a recorded voice.
4) As far as I can tell, no way to take back an answer: if you accidentally press the wrong key, you don't get to correct your mistake.

Also, I think that these polls are not as good as, say Gallup, in doing "call-backs" -- calling back numbers where there was no answer. Gallup tries from 3 to 7 times to get a hold of a person.

At PPP's web site, they mentioned that their sampling frame consists of a voter registration database. So they will be missing newly registered voters. This will bias their results.

All polls need to be assessed cautiously. The methodology as well as the wording of the question can really affect results.

[joeysky18]

I think the Bosnia snipper story might have hurt her a bit.

We need to talk to the voters directly. This means more of us must man the phone, and involve with the phone bank.

I don't know how many of us are active in making call. My gut feeling says: Not Enough.

[SunnyInCal]

Polls showed she was losing in Texas after having a big lead and she won the primary. I hate polls but regardless of what they say we gotta keep on going with Hillary.

[Patsy]

There's another poll out there that has her up by 12% so I don't put much credit in them.

Scott Rasmussen was on FOX about an hour ago and he said that the same thing happened in Ohio and she till won by a hefty margin. Even he, who did the poll, doesn't think it holds much relevance when it comes to election day.

[Suzan]

I agree. Don't take this polls so much to heart!!!!!

I heard a commentator say this was the normal tightening of the race as the election nears. Also remember that Obama tends to overpoll before the elections, especially in the big states and then underperforms at the election. The exit polls confirm this. When people actually vote they say the economy is what matters and they vote for Hillary.

[Patsy]

I take this poll very seriously.

Juan Williams on Fox News, whom I respect, said today if Obama keeps this up then it could be game over for Hillary.

We need to get to work in PA. - blogs, calls, etc.

Scott Rasmussen was on Fox an hour ago and he did the polling. He said the very same thing happened in Ohio and she still won by a hefty margin. These polls do not reflect what happens on election day.

There's also another poll out today that has her up 12%.

Polls mean nothing at this point.

[bernie gagliano]

The money Ob**a is spending and the Media turning aside the Rev Wright and focusing on Hillary in Bosnia.

Meanwhile,

We have been doing very little to work for her campaign from this Forum. We can do much, much, more.

Blogs and posts do not generate votes, nor do they excite voters.

1000 members from this Forum calling everyday would build her lead. Carla and others have been trying for three weeks to recruit members for phoning. Some twenty or so have joined. She has found many more outside the Forum. Soon she will have hundreds. But Forum members need to get active.

It is free. It is easy. You can do it for twenty or thirty minutes or hours.

Phoning for Hillary is practically your duty. This is what she needs.

If just 250 members would join the action every day we can reach hundreds of thousands of voters in PA.

There are simple steps to get involved. contact:carlaforhillary@gmail.com

Please donate activism to Hillary. There are scripts everyday in four states.

You say you support Hillary? Well, her campaign needs every last one of you.

We have time to win this for her in the magnitude that will shock the nation.

Many of you know I can write all day also. I would like to expound on some things, but for three weeks I have been devoting most of my free time, not to blogs, but to the grassroots movement that begins with phoning.

Every single person here on the Forum should call for Hillary. And if you personally are so fearful of talking on a phone, then find someone who will.
One for one. Get on the phone, fight for Hillary.

I see it as our patriotic duty, not a political act of choice.

We here understand just how profoundly the right candidate means for our nation. Stand and be counted.

It is one reason why Murray built this Forum. To Help Hillary with Action.

[Bless]

Don’t worry about polls, it is just a snapshot in time, Hillary will win PA

[Amy Dugan]

the other night on the conference call with governor rendell, he said while ads on the air help a candidate, in PA physical presence on the ground is far better here to garner votes and persuade undecided voters (canvassing, honk and waves, rallies with the clintons, phone calls)

PLEASE consider going to PA

contact

Samantha Casne
Out of State Volunteer Coordinator
Midwest and Western States
Hillary Clinton for President
(608) 628-8394 (cell)
scasne@hillaryclinton.com
TELL HER Amy Dugan recruited you so she knows you really are a HRC supporter. If you live somewhere else, she can still help.

[Chichi]

SurveyUSA has Hillary up by 12 and that pollster has been the most reliable this election season. PA should not be taken for granted. I encourage everyone to make phone calls.

[Brooke]

You know, I really can't wait until our primary is over because you guys will see how silly you were for freaking out about Hillary and this state. I and everyone else here, is working night and day for her, but there's no need to get all upset! I've been saying this over and over and over and it doesn't seem to be resonating with anyone on this board. Those polls are ridiculous. Mayor Nutter said two days ago in response to a comment that Obama is basically promised Philadelphia "I wouldn't be so sure about that". A lot of people here are angry as hell about this Wright thing and don't like Obama AT ALL. And these aren't just people I've been talking to a campaing rallies.

The other thing is, Obama isn't guarenteed the college vote. I've been seeing a ton of college kids come out for Hillary at the rallies and volunteering.

Once again, the question isn't whether Hillary will win PA. The question is by how much. She's got the GOVERNOR, incredibly well respected member of Congress and MAYOR OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CITY IN THIS STATE BEHIND HER (sorry, Pittsburgh). He's got some nobody congressman from my county and Bob Casey (who most people don't know either).

So in Bill's words..chill guys. There's still three weeks to go. I am so sure about her victory here, that if she loses, I'll move back home to Jersey.;)

PENNSYLVANIA IS CLINTON COUNTRY..NOT OBAMA COUNTRY.

[maximuss]

.WE MUST TAKE THIS POLL SERIOUSLY> The good news from the polls out today is that the PA vote is 3 weeks away.The polls now are important but it is the polls during the 2-3 days before voting that really matter.Just look at Texas and Ohio. Before this poll came out , It had occured to me that there was too much focus on attacking Obama rather than promoting and taking action for Hilary. I like these attacks on Obama but what really matters is what actions we are taking for Hilary. PA is still ours to loose and we have a very good chance of a 20%+ victory only if we continue to work for Hilary. Voters registration work in PA seemed to have been good but we must now take action to get out the votes. Hilary's chance of getting the nomination depends on winning the popular vote count. This is achievable and victory in PA is crucial.

Does anyone have any news about the voter registration efforts and the ground game in NC and Indiana ?.

[SD]

i ignore the polls. there are so many people who don't have myspace, that kind of thing, yet do vote. these are the people the internet people seem to forget about.

forget the polls. get the seniors out. drive them. help them vote. many want to vote but have no transportation, and are feeling left out. i have heard, many times, that the older folk just don't have a way to go to vote. they feel they are being railroaded by college kids with computers.

i wish i could drive to pa. and help drive the people who are going unheard - seniors.

[neutralplayer]

The only poll I really trust is PPP.

[no_more_bush]

I'll hold off on my concern until a series of polls show Obama closing the gap in PA. Right now there is another poll that conflicts with Rasmussen's results.

Some good news though is that Indiana, a state Obama's camp predicted they would win in, shows Hillary ahead by 9 points. That's excellent news because this could offset a possible loss in NC, or make a big statement by winning both NC and Indiana. Until the Bosnia crap happened she was very close to Obama in the NC polls , so it's completely feasible for her to win both with a lot of work(and some kitchen sink).

Other good news, all polls indicate that she's recovering from the Bosnia "fiasco".

[Joe from WI]

You know, I really can't wait until our primary is over because you guys will see how silly you were for freaking out about Hillary and this state. I and everyone else here, is working night and day for her, but there's no need to get all upset! I've been saying this over and over and over and it doesn't seem to be resonating with anyone on this board. Those polls are ridiculous. Mayor Nutter said two days ago in response to a comment that Obama is basically promised Philadelphia "I wouldn't be so sure about that". A lot of people here are angry as hell about this Wright thing and don't like Obama AT ALL. And these aren't just people I've been talking to a campaing rallies.

The other thing is, Obama isn't guarenteed the college vote. I've been seeing a ton of college kids come out for Hillary at the rallies and volunteering.

Once again, the question isn't whether Hillary will win PA. The question is by how much. She's got the GOVERNOR, incredibly well respected member of Congress and MAYOR OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CITY IN THIS STATE BEHIND HER (sorry, Pittsburgh). He's got some nobody congressman from my county and Bob Casey (who most people don't know either).

So in Bill's words..chill guys. There's still three weeks to go. I am so sure about her victory here, that if she loses, I'll move back home to Jersey.;)

PENNSYLVANIA IS CLINTON COUNTRY..NOT OBAMA COUNTRY.


Thank you CF, but can we do more to move up Hillary's edge? We cannot take for granted her win in PA. BO will try to do what he can to disrupt her win. We need to step up and keep the momentume going -- we must take PA BIG. Only then will the SD, DNC, and even BO's kiddy supporters start coming to terms and seat FL and MI as they were.

[Annie]

Last Time I Looked The Aol Straw Poll Has Her Ahead In Every State And 20 Points Ahead In Pa..

Also,Some seniors dont blog or even have a computer, those are the people that need to be at there voting day . I speak to many and they do see through the medias bias. they will vote Clinton for that reason alone. BUT!!!!! they need to get there voting day.
Go to you local retirement homes and speak about Hillary and if they need rides or just incouragement...many want to see another Clinton in office again.


~Change minds one at a time~


I go in and vote on the straw poll each week but honestly that poll means absolutely nothing.

[Annie]

I'll hold off on my concern until a series of polls show Obama closing the gap in PA. Right now there is another poll that conflicts with Rasmussen's results.

Some good news though is that Indiana, a state Obama's camp predicted they would win in, shows Hillary ahead by 9 points. That's excellent news because this could offset a possible loss in NC, or make a big statement by winning both NC and Indiana. Until the Bosnia crap happened she was very close to Obama in the NC polls , so it's completely feasible for her to win both with a lot of work(and some kitchen sink).

Other good news, all polls indicate that she's recovering from the Bosnia "fiasco".

Well the similarity between Hill and Barak is Hill WAS in Bosnia and Barak WAS in Wright's church. Now which is better? :D

[CGP]

Don’t worry about polls, it is just a snapshot in time, Hillary will win PA

Yes, Yes, Yes.

[pnevai]

Funny thing I noticed is that so long as one poll or another is going our way, well then it is the best. But as soon as it starts going south then polls are worthless.
Have to show some consistancy people, if it's bad, it's bad, when it's good it's good. To act otherwise is like putting our heads in the sand. If it's bad the we work hard to make it improve, If' it's good we work to make it better.