View Full Version : HCF in 2009: HCF is PRO-HILLARY & NEUTRAL everything else!
(Note - If you have been relatively active in the forum over the past 2 weeks, or if I emailed you initially to notify of the forum's re-opening, I didn't include you on the list of people who received this email as you will be reading the message here at the forum!).
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http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net
Dear HCF participants (both past & present),
The forum re-opened in late January 2009 after a couple of brief closures. I am slowly getting round to emailing participants who were active in the forum during Nov/Dec 2008 before HCF had a couple of shutdowns! In HCF 2009 I am encouraging broad political discussion amongst people of all political persuasions - Democrats, Independents & Republicans. While the forum retains a clear focus on pro-Hillary news/events, there is also broader discussion about all political news and events.
From the perspective of ADMIN, HCF is now neutral on Obama, being neither explicitly for nor against his presidency. Given the election is now over and Hillary Clinton is part of the Obama administration, and given the forum’s name is “Hillary Clinton Forum”, allowing an exclusively oppositional tone towards discussion of Obama aross the entire forum would not be appropriate at all. Hillary and Obama are now part of the same team.
It is also the case that my own feelings towards Obama have improved (now in the neutral category) and I would no longer feel comfortable being associated with a forum that didn't allow expressions of positivity/support for Obama by those who wish to express them. It goes without saying, however, that criticism of all politicians should be expressed when justified & necessary. No politician, including Obama (& Hillary also), should be spared from analysis by the public and in that respect nothing has changed.
So, individual participants at HCF can be either for or against Obama's presidency (or neutral on the matter), but the forum per se (from an admin perspective) will not be pushing any particular theme in this regard. If those who don't support Obama are completely unable to communicate with those who do support Obama, HCF may not be the place for you anymore. Equally, for those who support Obama but cannot communicate with those who do not support him, HCF also may not be the place for you anymore either.
Regardless of who one does/doesn't support politically, the standard rules of respect & civility that have always been encouraged at HCF still apply. Extremism of all types (be that anti-Hillary extremism, anti-Obama extremism, anti-Palin extremism etc) is not welcome.
Hope to see you soon!
Admin (aka CGP),
http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net
Nichelle
02-07-2009, 09:31 PM
I love it!
I love it!
Well that's one vote! A start. ;)
It states your positions and purpose clearly - and to the broad range of participants welcome, invites civility in discussion of persons and issues. What more could we ask?
joeysky18
02-07-2009, 11:12 PM
Excellent. It is good to lay down the house rules.
thebword
02-08-2009, 01:14 AM
[B]
Regardless of who one does/doesn't support politically, the standard rules of respect & civility that have always been encouraged at HCF still apply. Extremism of all types (be that anti-Hillary extremism, anti-Obama extremism, anti-Palin extremism etc) is not welcome.
Hope to see you soon!
Admin (aka CGP),
http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net
Love it! Respect & civility are the attributes that made HCF stand out from the rest. Thank you!
VotingHillary
02-08-2009, 01:21 AM
Love it! Respect & civility are the attributes that made HCF stand out from the rest. Thank you!
Completely agree...glad things have become much more civilized even though the board has expanded the political discussion.
Laura Cereta
02-08-2009, 01:28 AM
It's a good e-mail, IMO. Healthy discussion and debate can be experienced with respect and without extremism.
Healthy discussion and debate can be experienced with respect and without extremism.
It's certainly a goal worth striving for, even if it's not always achieved!
Carla
02-17-2009, 01:00 AM
Hi Murray,
I'm just happy that this is a pro-Hillary site.
Hi Murray,
I'm just happy that this is a pro-Hillary site.
ALWAYS!!
Hello by the way! :)
ImmaSlave4U
02-17-2009, 04:40 AM
Doesn't sound like I've been in any violation! :)
foxyladi
02-17-2009, 03:26 PM
Excellent. It is good to lay down the house rules.
gotta have rules..
Brooke
02-17-2009, 05:55 PM
It's good.
nancyincali
02-18-2009, 12:02 AM
FANTASTIC. I love Hillary and love all the videos, love the blog "All things Hillary" and yes, am now neutral towards BHO.....bottom line - better Obama than Bush, better obama than the Repugs who got us into this mess...
BUT
still wish it was Hillary, still believe it shoulda been Hillary, still hope it will be Hillary someday SOON....
FANTASTIC. I love Hillary and love all the videos, love the blog "All things Hillary" and yes, am now neutral towards BHO.....bottom line - better Obama than Bush, better obama than the Repugs who got us into this mess...
BUT
still wish it was Hillary, still believe it shoulda been Hillary, still hope it will be Hillary someday SOON....
Welcome back! :cool:
normita
02-18-2009, 03:28 AM
Great, thanks for sending me an invite to join on my birthday.
normita
02-18-2009, 03:32 AM
Welcome back! :cool:
Why doesn't my picture show up with my name? I uploaded one but didn't show up.
hillary4prez2008
02-18-2009, 08:55 AM
Glad to be a part of this forum. I'm still bitter about the way the primary turned out, but glad Hillary is Secretary of State. I hope for more in 2012!:)
pcwood
02-18-2009, 11:10 AM
It will be a relief to find an online forum that is respectful and civil! I look forward to participating and learning.
collhic
02-18-2009, 12:46 PM
Well, I don't know if i'll ever be pro-obama, but I can certainly put a muzzle on my opinions. And I'm certainly glad to be a part of something that keeps the discussion alive about HRC.
Well, I don't know if i'll ever be pro-obama, but I can certainly put a muzzle on my opinions.
^ No need for the muzzle - criticism of any public figure should be expressed when justified and warranted! ;)
And I'm certainly glad to be a part of something that keeps the discussion alive about HRC.
^ That's the main point - these days the Internet is central to developing & maintaining support for politicians & other public figures, and contributing to websites which aim to showcase Hillary's works/roles is a good endeavor!
Why doesn't my picture show up with my name? I uploaded one but didn't show up.
I have fixed that for you!
(you had added a "profile picture", but not the "avatar")
Tizhyla
02-19-2009, 02:06 PM
I think it's an outstanding idea, and I like the new format and goal - a lot!
rickya
02-19-2009, 03:45 PM
Sure, it's fine. I'm glad that this is a pro-Hillary site. Admin, you are free to become neutral as I am free to be anti-Obama. I am glad that I am free to criticize Obama on this site.
I think it's an outstanding idea, and I like the new format and goal - a lot!
Great!
carmaken
02-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Just the clarification I was looking for. Thanks. It is nice to find some civil people.
Laura Cereta
02-22-2009, 02:42 PM
Courtesy of CGP in another post, here's a way to keep up with HRC (there's no better way to show how "pro" you are than to stay informed, right? ;)):
HC's SOS Twitter profile:
http://www.twitter.com/dipnote
Flickr Profile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/statephotos
YouTube Profile:
http://www.youtube.com/statevideo
Facebook Profile:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Washin...te/15877306073 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Washington-DC/US-Department-of-State/15877306073)
Blog Site:
http://blogs.state.gov/
Main Website:
http://www.state.gov (http://www.state.gov/)
__________________
(there's no better way to show how "pro" you are than to stay informed, right? ;)):
I'd agree with that!
Tim4Hillary
03-01-2009, 08:42 PM
Perfect! :thumbsup:
G'aal
03-02-2009, 02:44 AM
Though I wouldn't exactly call myself "pro-Hillary" per se (really an Independent, though I am a registered Republican), I am a supporter of her and the current Administration. These are critical times and I'm certainly hoping that this Titanic of an economy can be turned before it hits the iceberg.
Having said that, I do admire her, like much of what she's done and am glad to see the board stick with its roots. It's a balancing act, paying homage to both her and this site's own history, while at the same time opening up to everyone. I think it's the right move and that it can be done.
Obviously, the negative "us vs. them" did do one thing that was (in a way) good for this site: it drove traffic through the roof. That's the most difficult challenge we'll face here, getting people enthusiastic again. It may not be possible, but even if not, this is still the correct course.
Obviously, the negative "us vs. them" did do one thing that was (in a way) good for this site: it drove traffic through the roof. That's the most difficult challenge we'll face here, getting people enthusiastic again. It may not be possible, but even if not, this is still the correct course.
Agreed.
Alces95
06-04-2009, 11:07 AM
(Note - If you have been relatively active in the forum over the past 2 weeks, or if I emailed you initially to notify of the forum's re-opening, I didn't include you on the list of people who received this email as you will be reading the message here at the forum!).
---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net
Dear HCF participants (both past & present),
The forum re-opened in late January 2009 after a couple of brief closures. I am slowly getting round to emailing participants who were active in the forum during Nov/Dec 2008 before HCF had a couple of shutdowns! In HCF 2009 I am encouraging broad political discussion amongst people of all political persuasions - Democrats, Independents & Republicans. While the forum retains a clear focus on pro-Hillary news/events, there is also broader discussion about all political news and events.
From the perspective of ADMIN, HCF is now neutral on Obama, being neither explicitly for nor against his presidency. Given the election is now over and Hillary Clinton is part of the Obama administration, and given the forum’s name is “Hillary Clinton Forum”, allowing an exclusively oppositional tone towards discussion of Obama aross the entire forum would not be appropriate at all. Hillary and Obama are now part of the same team.
It is also the case that my own feelings towards Obama have improved (now in the neutral category) and I would no longer feel comfortable being associated with a forum that didn't allow expressions of positivity/support for Obama by those who wish to express them. It goes without saying, however, that criticism of all politicians should be expressed when justified & necessary. No politician, including Obama (& Hillary also), should be spared from analysis by the public and in that respect nothing has changed.
So, individual participants at HCF can be either for or against Obama's presidency (or neutral on the matter), but the forum per se (from an admin perspective) will not be pushing any particular theme in this regard. If those who don't support Obama are completely unable to communicate with those who do support Obama, HCF may not be the place for you anymore. Equally, for those who support Obama but cannot communicate with those who do not support him, HCF also may not be the place for you anymore either.
Regardless of who one does/doesn't support politically, the standard rules of respect & civility that have always been encouraged at HCF still apply. Extremism of all types (be that anti-Hillary extremism, anti-Obama extremism, anti-Palin extremism etc) is not welcome.
Hope to see you soon!
Admin (aka CGP),
http://www.HillaryClintonForum.net
I hope people read this again. Lately, this site has been just a bash fest. Some of the Anti-Obama, the sky is falling, pro-nothing stuff has been unreal.
Laura Cereta
06-23-2009, 10:13 AM
I hope people read this again. Lately, this site has been just a bash fest. Some of the Anti-Obama, the sky is falling, pro-nothing stuff has been unreal.
I think some of us-- well, I'll just speak for myself-- I have tried to be neutral on Obama; I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and unfortunately, that lasted for about two weeks. He has been everything I thought he would be.
I think it should be mentioned that there's plenty of opposition to other people and political ideologies here as well. It's a mixed bag and that's O.K.
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