FORUM VOTING: 26 x VP Options for Hillary - Phase 1 of Forum Voting!

[CGP]

YOU CAN VOTE FOR MULTIPLE CANDIDATES
(But you only get one chance to do so!)

In this first phase of voting for VP options for Hillary, you can select as many candidates as you like - but you can only do so on one occasion!

So if you think 10 on the list could be viable VPs, select 10. If you think only 5 are viable, vote for those 5.

Phase 2 would involve culling this list to about ten and than we would have another round of voting to see who would go forward to Phase 3!

If there are any on this list who should be removed due to formal ineligibility, let me know and I will remove.

[CGP]

Ok, the horses are out and the race is on!!! :)

[WV4Hillary]

Guuuyyysss...don't forget WV's awsome Gov. Joe Manchin. -plug- Mwuhaha.

[RayinAR]

Murray, I am really begining to like Evan B. I think he would be a really strong VP.

[EngCindy]

Sorry Murray, but I feel quite ignorant, as I don't even know who some of these folks are. Ralph Nader....can he actually be on a democratic ticket ?

I voted Wesley Clark, as a strong "supportive" VP, military and all. But, we do have to have someone that can take over,and yet, without constantly struggling with Hillary; no over-shadower.....

I am interested in what some of the other forum members opinions are !

[HillWill]

I think she really needs to pick an AA. I hate to say it, but I think we will have problems if we don't. But maybe I'm just worrisome! As much as I like Nutter, I think Harold Ford is a good choice. He is very smart. I heard Evan B. speak at a MI dem event and nobody was paying attention to him. He may be a great guy, but he totally lost the whole room. just my 2 cents worth.

[CGP]

I meant to put Obama in the list but I forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe my brain was telling me something - don't even consider him!

And can't add it now the poll has started....

I was interested to see how he fared....

Oh well, maybe he can be added to Phase 2 given he is the other nominee....

[CGP]

I voted for (in order of how they appear in the poll list)

Evan Bayh
John Edwards
Michael Nutter
Sheila Jackson-Lee
Wesley Clark

[SD]

I meant to put Obama in the list but I forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he is so not an option. :D

i like bill nelson but he isn't that well-known. i think Sheila Jackson-Lee
would be good, but being a woman might backfire.

i choose Michael Nutter. :)

[Area504]

I meant to put Obama in the list but I forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He definitely would NOT have gotten my vote.

I voted for:

Ed Rendell
Evan Bayh
Harold Ford Jr.
Wes Clark

Harold Ford Jr. would be my first pick. I would hesitate to put another female on the ticket. Having Ford as VP might also alleviate some hurt feelings among African Americans who supported Obama. Finally, he could help to carry some Southern states.

[floorrunner]

I was dissappointed that Diane Watson was not on the list. She is the congresswoman from California that said she would not waver in her support of Hillary even at the rick of losing her seat in congress.

[CGP]

I was dissappointed that Diane Watson was not on the list. She is the congresswoman from California that said she would not waver in her support of Hillary even at the rick of losing her seat in congress.

She wasn't mentioned in the previous 2 threads about potential nominees so she wasn't included. :( (unless I missed reading her name!)

[SunnyInCal]

Are we speaking ideally or realistically?

Realistically you can't have two women on the ticket. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but we may not even get one woman on the ticket.

So I stuck with only men with Wesley Clark being my first choice. He was actually my choice for the nomination in 2004, which is when I left the Dem Party (Kerry? Yuck.)

[SunnyInCal]

Another reply. It's Harold Ford Jr. the missing Jr threw me off for a moment. I LOVE him. He is always very very articulate when he's on tv. Has he endorsed Hillary?

[SunnyInCal]

Sorry for the duplicate postings, but why didn't he run for President? He certainly would have been a better choice than Obama.. geez. Here is a link to his bio:

http://www.fordfortennessee.com/

[CGP]

Another reply. It's Harold Ford Jr. the missing Jr threw me off for a moment. I LOVE him. He is always very very articulate when he's on tv. Has he endorsed Hillary?

I can add the Jr !

[Annie]

Sorry for the duplicate postings, but why didn't he run for President? He certainly would have been a better choice than Obama.. geez. Here is a link to his bio:

http://www.fordfortennessee.com/

I didn't tick his box because I didn't know who he was. He is currently at Merrill Lynch and not in Congress - does that matter? And it doesn't look as though he is supporting anybody but Bill Clinton seems to have had very good words for him which Ford has in that short bio thingummy. So... I would probably add him to the list.

My list was:
Bill Nelsen
Ed Rendell
Evan Bayh
Joe Scarborough (just because lol!)
Michael Nutter
Ted Strickland
Wesley Clarke

Didn't put Edwards as I feel he should have come out for Hillary by now and especially as her Universal plan is almost the same as his and Obama's is not. I think he should have a place in her cabinet though...Attorney General.

[HillWill]

Another reply. It's Harold Ford Jr. the missing Jr threw me off for a moment. I LOVE him. He is always very very articulate when he's on tv. Has he endorsed Hillary?

I heard him the other day that he has not endorsed anyone because he is a super delegate.
He's at Merril Lynch cause he lost his run for senator in TN. He was a great congressman. Very well spoken, smart and a real leader. Now, I don't know if he's getting pressure from obama supporters, but for now he hasn't endorsed.

[Brooke]

I'm surprised Vilsack isn't on the list. But I chose Evan Bayh, I've always liked him. I was going to chose Eddie or Michael but neither want the job and I kinda wanna keep them here in PA with me.;)

[B positive]

Seeing so many wonderful names on this list reminds me of the many great supporters Hillary has on the campaign scene!!! We luv you all !!!:)



p.s.
Jamie Rubin would be a good choice, as well;) He's on to something... reality!!

[HillWill]

I love this article 'cause I hope the college kids have it right! They've been wrong only once in past 60 years!

Democratic Nominee "Picked" at VA. College
Jan. 27, 2008

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012602119.html

Excerpts:

"It's the 100th year of Washington and Lee University's mock convention, an event that has featured elephants, speakers such as Harry S. Truman and Jimmy Carter, more than a few epic parties and one dramatic death.
The convention predicts the nominee of the party not currently in the White House. It is meticulously researched and not infrequently giddy. And it has a remarkable record for accurate picks -- only once in 60 years has it chosen the wrong nominee.

The delegates gathered yesterday to make this year's call -- a toughie. Nothing like decades of pressure and having a national spotlight on you.

The leaders of the student-run convention, who worked on it for 2 1/2 years, have had their share of sleepless nights. Not only are there 100 years of tradition to uphold and the sense that this year's election will make history, but the field is more unpredictable than it has been for years...

A gym at the school was transformed into a convention hall with state signs on poles, a forest of TV cameras, huge video screens and about 3,000 people, many waving "Hillary" and "Obama" signs. Student delegates wore jackets and ties or dresses and heels and, not infrequently, boater hats.

This year's lineup of speakers was impressive: Jackson, Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, Sen. James Webb (Va.), former senators Max Cleland (Ga.) and Carol Moseley Braun (Ill.), former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro, rising Democratic star Harold Ford Jr. and Charlie Wilson, the former representative whose support of Afghan rebels fighting Soviet troops in the 1980s is the subject of a current film.

After speeches yesterday, the roll-call vote was held.

"The great state of California, where my governor could beat up your governor, casts 260 votes for Senator Clinton."

Someone shouted, "Clinton!" Then someone else yelled, "That's my lady!" drawing laughter from the mostly Republican students.

When the final vote was cast, red, white and blue balloons dropped to the floor, and the crowd chanted, "Hillary! Hillary!"

Then Bill Clinton called, his raspy voice echoing through speakers as he thanked voters for nominating his wife.

In the end, the tally was not that close. With 2,025 votes needed for the nomination, Clinton had the backing of 2,117 delegates; Obama, 1,642; former senator John Edwards (N.C.), 288; former senator Mike Gravel (Alaska), 2.

After the vote and a much less serious selection of Ford as vice president -- he was many students' favorite speaker -- people began clearing away. The sounds of hundreds of balloons popping filled the hall...

In the opinion of the mock convention, it's not going to be over on Super Tuesday," said Southern regional chairman William Waller, a senior from Georgia. "It's going to be months."

[skc1976]

I voted:

Rendell
Bayh
Edwards
Warner
Strickland
Clark

Now, I know that Warner wouldn't accept as he's running for the Senate. But a Clinton/Warner ticket would be unstoppable. I also think any of the others I voted for would be awesome. And I'd like to second Manchin being added!

[freethinker]

Bayh
Edwards
Strickland
Clark

:)

[leahchamblee]

evan bayh

I really like http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/
Harold Ford Jr. I like his idea for education.
and I also liked the two Congresswomen Stephanie Tubb Jones and Sheila Jackson Lee. Even though Lee is more liberal than I tend to go.

[leahchamblee]

I wrote Evan bagh's name down to remember it, I didn't vote for him though. It is depressing these guys have to be interesting to vote for them. It's probably a bad reason to vote for someone. Harold Ford will need an image overhaul, Sheila is really tough, I think that a lot of people would like her, because she is likeable. Stephanie Tubb Jones the smile is kinda big, but I like her work on health care.

evan bayh

I really like http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/
Harold Ford Jr. I like his idea for education.
and I also liked the two Congresswomen Stephanie Tubb Jones and Sheila Jackson Lee. Even though Lee is more liberal than I tend to go.

[pnevai]

Charlie Crist Florida Governor. Good guy, Pro Choice and was a Great Florida DA. She will need FLorida in the GE.

[CGP]

After 50 members have voted, here is the Top 10 so far!
(remember, each member could vote for multiple candidates)

1. Wesley Clark (28 votes)
2. Even Bayh (26 votes)
3. John Edwards (24 votes)
4. Ed Rendell (17 votes)
5. Harold Ford Jr (16 votes)

6. Sheila Jackson-Lee (13 votes)
7. Ted Strickland (13 votes)
8. Michael Nutter (11 votes)
9. Al Gore (8 votes)
10. Bill Nelson (8 votes)

[Max565]

It's not a good idea to choose a woman, imho. There are already people against the idea of a female president, this will just further alienate those voters with a double bill of woman...

I chose Wesley Clark, Ted Strickland, Ralph Nadar and Ted Rendell...

But I think Hillary should really consider Obama. There's a strong chance that the AA, youth and maybe even the up-scale voters part of his 'movement' will not vote for her.

[CGP]

Get your votes in!

You can vote for multiple candidates at the same time when you vote!

[Charlie Brown]

Dont forget Joe Biden...My personal favorite...

[CGP]

Dont forget Joe Biden...My personal favorite...

He was removed as a number of people identified him as an Obama supporter.

Just like Pelosi was removed from the list for the same reason!

[joeysky18]

I voted. In no particular order.

Evan Bayh
John Edwards
Ed Rendell
Joe Scarborough
Wesley Clark

I know Joe Scarborough probably is not a viable option. But I like his backbone.

Obama Who?

[CGP]

Obama Who?

I honestly forgot to include him on the list! What does that tell you?!?

[joeysky18]

I honestly forgot to include him on the list! What does that tell you?!?

I don't blame you at all mate! :)

[joeysky18]

But I think Hillary should really consider Obama. There's a strong chance that the AA, youth and maybe even the up-scale voters part of his 'movement' will not vote for her.


Hillary offered. And Obama mocked the idea and declined in an undiplomatic way.

[CGP]

Keep voting!

Obama scoffed at the idea of being Hillary's VP - she's done her duty and doesn't need to offer him the role a second time round if she indeed wins. His reponse was so arrogant and disrespectful that he effectively ruled himself out as a possibility.

[CGP]

Please vote if you have not already!

[Charlie Brown]

He was removed as a number of people identified him as an Obama supporter.

Just like Pelosi was removed from the list for the same reason!

NOOOOOOOOO!!! REALLY????WHY???

[CGP]

Please vote if you haven't already - 65 members have voted so far.

If you do vote, you can select multiple candidates.

[Annie]

evan bayh

I really like http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/
Harold Ford Jr. I like his idea for education.
and I also liked the two Congresswomen Stephanie Tubb Jones and Sheila Jackson Lee. Even though Lee is more liberal than I tend to go.


omg! THAT Train and throwing Grandma under the train - awesome - should be a poster..... Maybe at the Rockefeller protest against the media..... :D

[CGP]

Please vote if you have not already.

[Viktoriya]

I think she should choose for VP young ( less that 50) smart latino man.

[CGP]

72 voters!

Please vote if you haven't already.

You can select multiple candidates when you vote.

[CGP]

bump

[CGP]

Please vote if you have not!

Mutiple selections accepted when you vote.

[CGP]

80 voters thus far!

If you have not voted, please do so - you can make mutiple selections when you vote.

[Area504]

Murray, will there be a "Phase II" of voting at some point?

[HRH Jorge]

Evan byah
Harold Ford Jr
Mark Warner
Wes Clark
and Robert Rubin

[hillary4change]

Keep voting!

Obama scoffed at the idea of being Hillary's VP - she's done her duty and doesn't need to offer him the role a second time round if she indeed wins. His reponse was so arrogant and disrespectful that he effectively ruled himself out as a possibility.

Funny you should mention that. I thought that when she made that announcement, there was a possibility she would put him on her ticket. I thought, I wonder why she said that..to get people to see her as the frontrunner? At that time there was no way people would believe she could win the nom. So I started thinking again ...HMMMM then it hit me. She knew he would be his rude arrogant self and be "dismisive" of her like always, which would open the door for her to start wailing on him as he "Poo-Pooed her offer!! I think she wasn't trying to be presumtious and try to hand him V.P with one hand as she stole Prez. with the other. Like the Media in their infinite wisdom was trying to paint it. She is too smart. I think she did it to break the idea of a combo ticket in the minds of Americans so she could be freer in her fight against him!!! Just a thought!! She's one smart cookie!!

[hillary4change]

I didn't vote for Harold Ford Jr.
Back when I still watched T.V I saw him on a show (?) as part of the panel, and he said something that made me feel he was Pro-Obama. It was kinda rude against Hillary. I can't remember the comment, but I felt he was for the "King of Change". so I didn't vote for him but I was Pro-Harold before his untoward statement.
I voted in no particular order:
Rendell, Bayh, Carville, Edwards, Wms., Jackson-Lee, Tubbs-Jones, & finally Clark. My number one pick is Clark, Military Male, trusted, smart, well known. No introductory period!!

[Angelica91]

Absolutely John Edwards!:)

[Tea toaD]

I already voted but I heard Ted Strickland's name being tossed around more lately:) Dee Dee Myers said on Fox News today" she thought Obama was a good choice':eek:

[Linda C]

Hey we are keeping Ted Strickland in Ohio. We need him so he can't go..He has already been spoken for.:D

Bill Nelson is very popular in the south...He got guts, brains and level headed. Pulled Florida through the last insurance crisis there when Andrew came through. May not be a bad ides since The Florida Gov is highly considered for VP on the republican ticket.

I always like Wes Clark...smart, military, experienced in foreign relations, NATO

Edwards another great choice. His job could be poverty and the domestic agenda. That is right up his alley. He is probably the Poverty Czar that Hillary wants.

Evan Bayh..I remember his father...humm I feel old.

Ford Jr. another good choice... very bright

[Annie]

Hmmm just a thought and a question?

I think we should consider the fact that if and when Hillary gets the nomination and then the Presidency (for 8 years) her running mate should be a very good choice to be President for the next 8 years.

Why not?

Real Question - when is the second poll coming up?

[CGP]

Real Question - when is the second poll coming up?

Maybe after all the primaries have been completed would be a good time.

[CGP]

BO thinks he is read to start his own "search" for a VP running mate!

We can play that GAME too - we will help Hillary do the same thing! Search for her VP running mate!

I bet more than a few of you wish you could take your vote for Edwards back!

(127 v)

[CGP]

The Current Top 10 (as voted by forum members):

1. Wesley Clark (62 votes)

1. John Edwards (62 votes)

3. Evan Bayh (53 votes)

4. Ed Rendell (40 votes)

5. Harold Ford Jr (24 votes)

6. Sheila Jackson-Lee (22 votes)

7. Ted Strickland (21 votes)

7. Michael nutter (21 votes)

9. Al Gore (18 votes)

10. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (17 votes)

[LetsHelpAmerica]

I'm thinking that Hillary will be more likely to get more biased crap if she choses
a female VP. I would love for her to have Shelia Jackson-Lee, Geraline Farraro, and
Tubbs-Jones in her administration........ But, for the VP position.........
Joe Bidden
Wesley Clarke
Rendall
Bayh
No to Ford because he is sickeningly for Obama.

[CGP]

If you have not yet voted, please do so.

Note that you can vote for more than one candidate when you vote.

[Annie]

The Current Top 10 (as voted by forum members):

1. Wesley Clark (62 votes) LIKE LIKE LIKE Great in any capacity

1. John Edwards (62 votes) ONE BIG NO Obamacrat.

3. Evan Bayh (53 votes) STILL MY VOTE OF CHOICE

4. Ed Rendell (40 votes) DOESNT WANT IT SUSPECT WOULD TAKE AUTONOMOUS CABINET POS.

5. Harold Ford Jr (24 votes) FORGET IT

6. Sheila Jackson-Lee (22 votes) CABINET POS

7. Ted Strickland (21 votes) okay..... BUT heard OB was doing that here

7. Michael nutter (21 votes) CABINET POS.

9. Al Gore (18 votes) HE WONT DO VP....

10. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (17 votes) YES DEFINITELY OR IMP. POSITION


When do we go to the next session - taking off the rat above. The rest are still aok though Rendell doesn't want it and said he would work for Obama if he is the nominee.

[RE:]

I only chose 2...Wesley Clark and Ed Rendell. I wish you would have left Joe Biden on the list. I just heard an interview with him, I think, yesterday and he was staying neutral. I like him just as much as WC!!

You're absolutely right about everyone that voted for John Edwards wishing they could take their vote back....He's such a LOSER!!!!!

[Kbentleyis]

After reading all this... I forgot who I voted for! Ha, ha, ha

[ProudClintoniteMI]

Wesley Clark is my first choice.

[Diamond Tiger]

Murray,

Is Lt. General Russel L. Honore even a viable choice?

[ILBlue]

How about Byron Dorgan??

He's good on trade and Immigration.

[Suzan]

Just voted. I think an AA as VP would be excellent, for obvious reasons.

Why would she ever need John Edwards on the ticket? She has strong populist appeal, and she already has the southern and working class dems. What else could he bring? I wouldn't want to see her choose turncoat John "waterfall bangs" Edwards.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Westly Clark was my pick. But really, I'd like Colin Powell for two reasons, military/negotiating skills and moderate republican. I think he would be such an asset in a time of war and would send a clear message to congress that the partisan days of bickering are OVER!

[hillguy08]

Oh no! I voted but forgot to put a check next to Wesley Clark. He's my pick.

[hipelayne]

I don't blame you at all mate! :)

I didn't even notice that his name wasn't on the list - what does that tell you? I made a point of looking for others - especially Harold Ford, Jr. He seems to be a pretty good guy from all accounts! Thanks for doing this!

[CGP]

When do we go to the next session - taking off the rat above. The rest are still aok though Rendell doesn't want it and said he would work for Obama if he is the nominee.

End of the primaries, we can move to Round 2.

[CGP]

156 votes

[Bad Kitty]

Awww man. I guess I voted to late.

[Artists4Hillary]

Remove Al Gore for obvious reasons.

[ImmaSlave4U]

I voted for Tubbs-Jones. Although, I think it would be great if she picked L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa

[Peppermint Patty]

I voted for Tubbs-Jones. Although, I think it would be great if she picked L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa

LOL, Antonio! Our Mayor does love the spotlight! But I think not. He's not ready yet.

I do love the idea of Nutter and Clark. I love the idea of the women on the list, but frankly, I think I'm pushing it to expect this country to go with TWO women on the same ticket, despite the history of always having two men on the ticket. I mean, they can only take so much change, ya know??? :D:p

[hillarymyhero]

Clark W

[CGP]

I love the idea of the women on the list, but frankly, I think I'm pushing it to expect this country to go with TWO women on the same ticket, despite the history of always having two men on the ticket. I mean, they can only take so much change, ya know??? :D:p

Yes, isn't it a sad reality that the idea of 2 women would be just "too much" for some people to cope with. Sexism is so entrenched in society that people just do not grasp what it really, really means. People just accept that patriarchy is normal and okay. They accept and think it's normal and okay that no woman has EVER been a party leader or president in the USA. Only when the absurdity and injustice of this is truly grasped has someone AWOKEN from ignorance on this matter.

[Annie]

End of the primaries, we can move to Round 2.


Oh okay...it is such fun though....

Joe Biden is in BO's corner - he advises him on foreign policy. :p Lot of good that did him - no wonder Joe came out on the appeasement issue....:D:p Maybe he changed his mind.....:rolleyes:

[CGP]

Joe Biden is in BO's corner - he advises him on foreign policy.

Yes, that's why he never made the original list!

[RE:]

Are you sure?? How did I miss that info about Biden!!! Did he come out of 'the Obama closet' at the same time as Dodd did??

Thank you Murray for making JE 'The Loser' unavailable on the list....Hated the fact that he got as many votes as he did, anyway..:mad:

[mukunda22]

was very complimentory to Hillary on Terri Gross this week.

He thinks BO and Hillary should team up, but to be honest, I believe people say these things because it is the politically correct thing to say.

[CGP]

168 voters.

[RE:]

They also say these things because they 'think' if they vote for 'the nominee', they will be a shoe-in when they are up for re-election...B.S., I say!!!

[CGP]

I wonder who people would vote for now if we did this again...?

[CGP]

172 voters.

[wildheart4mcpalin]

The only thing better than Amy Poelher would be Tina Fey! (tho I voted for Nader, Hillary and Nader is my personal dream ticket)

[Sylvia]

Evan Bayh and Geraldine Ferraro

[hillbilly4me]

YOU CAN VOTE FOR MULTIPLE CANDIDATES
(But you only get one chance to do so!)

In this first phase of voting for VP options for Hillary, you can select as many candidates as you like - but you can only do so on one occasion!

So if you think 10 on the list could be viable VPs, select 10. If you think only 5 are viable, vote for those 5.

Phase 2 would involve culling this list to about ten and than we would have another round of voting to see who would go forward to Phase 3!

If there are any on this list who should be removed due to formal ineligibility, let me know and I will remove.



We need one more question Hillary for president.

YouTube - Hey Obama: NO YOU WON'T

[CGP]

Well, I think if we did another round of this poll the answers would be very different after the past couple of months!!!

[jcless]

Evan Bayh
Harold Ford. Jr.
Wesley Clark