(4/7/09): "Young, Black and Republican (But, more importantly, conservative)" (RWN)

[The_Basseteer]

From:RightWingNews (http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/04/young_black_republican.php)



Yes, young, black Republicans exist. I think of a scripture, and I'm going to paraphrase it here, "The fields are black with harvest, if only there were enough workers." The Black and Hispanic communities are naturally conservative. Voters, enough to swing elections, are waiting to hear and be convinced of the conservative message.

That the majority vote Democrat shows the power of homeostasis. Once a body finds a comfort zone whether individually or as a group, change is challenging.

Ironically, Barack Obama's success in capturing the presidency changed the energy around Blacks in positions of political power. A Black activist group here in Houston, the Raging Elephants, is calling for the "second emancipation". It is time.

Here is a video you absolutely must watch. Republicans and conservatives need to stop writing off the African American community. The conservative movement needs to cultivate relationships and build on the conservative values of the Black and Hispanic communities. Moreover, as much the Republican party needs new voters, disenfranchised conservative minorities need the strength and power of the conservative message.

If America is going to remain strong, vibrant and growing, a socially liberal, socialistic philosophy needs to be confounded by the truth. That truth is that liberty doesn't come from government, it comes from God. The truth is that the government cannot guarantee happiness, it can only leave us free and safe to pursue it. Generations of an ever-intrusive government have not made a happier, more secure populace. Just the opposite has occurred. These messages will ring true to minority populations, some of whom have lived under the harsh master of a supposedly "caring" government. These messages will ring true to hard working minority populations who have succeeded by their own hand with no help from the government.

Anyway, here's the video. Watch the whole thing!



The future is now. It's time to reach out and bring back these minorities communities to their natural home.





http://blip.tv/play/AfiWS5XGHg


I'm not sure if the video link will work here, but you can find it on the topic link to right wing news above if it doesn't. Its about 20 mins. long.

[mavfin]

a socially liberal, socialistic


Where is it written that these two necessarily go together?

[UKSocialist]

That truth is that liberty doesn't come from government, it comes from God.
Ugh I hate it when people state their opinion on something and then label it "the truth" or "fact".

Anyway good luck GOP but I sincerely doubt you're going to convince waves of minorities to vote against their own interests.

[CGP]

Anyway good luck GOP but I sincerely doubt you're going to convince waves of minorities to vote against their own interests.

Yes, I don't think there is much chance of that happening.

[agatha]

Ugh I hate it when people state their opinion on something and then label it "the truth" or "fact".


It is take directly from the Declaration of Independance.

That truth is that liberty doesn't come from government, it comes from God.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

[CGP]

It is take directly from the Declaration of Independance.

Still, it was written by human beings.

Just like the Bible.

I choose not to idolize human beings & their creations.

[cinnamongirl]

The idea that minorities are ripe for "harvest," just waiting for conservatives to come along and tell them en masse what to think, is insulting.

It undercuts the idea that maybe all of these people have made their own political decisions. If conservatives want to view that decision as flawed, then fine, but don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying "minorities need the strength and power of the conservative message." Notice nothing is said about maybe reshaping the conservative priorities or policies to be more welcoming or inclusive. It's all about making minorities see the light--the light of unchanging, unevolving policies.

[UKSocialist]

It is take directly from the Declaration of Independance.

Although in a way my point still stands, I was unaware of the comments original reference, thanks for pointing it out.

[CGP]

The idea that minorities are ripe for "harvest," just waiting for conservatives to come along and tell them en masse what to think, is insulting.

I agree.

That said, given their horrible positions towards gay people and gay rights, any improvement in that regard would be welcomed.

[mavfin]

I agree.

That said, given their horrible positions towards gay people and gay rights, any improvement in that regard would be welcomed.

I think the biggest ray of hope that I saw was in a thread that few noticed, where the Iowa majority leader relates what his daughter said.

Your day will come when the old fogies no longer hold all the legislatures, because my generation to some extent, and definitely the ones younger than me, really don't care who marries who. As long as the people involved are of age, and voluntarily enter into it, it's fine.

There's definitely an age component in the opposition to gay marriage.

You vilify the Republicans all the time on this, and yes, their social conservative/religious wing deserves your ire, but there *are* Republicans that treat you better than some Democrats do. Don't tar them all with the same brush, please.

However, you keep saying that the Democrats will be your salvation, and I have yet to see that. They've been promising you stuff for years, and they haven't done (as VoteHillary said) jack for you. What gays have gotten, they have gotten for themselves with their own activities.

Actually, this resembles what the Democrats have done for years to get the black vote. Yet, I don't see the inner cities getting any better through the Dem's efforts. Are we really sure that they're not just telling you things to get your vote, but not *doing* anything about it?

Social change takes time, but I think you'll succeed in your aims. Anything else doesn't make any sense.

[Suzan]

You make some good points, Mavfin. I was also impressed by the Iowa Republican Justice who wrote the opinion. The quote is on another thread, but he said everything I would have expected a Dem justice to say about gays being denied their rights.

Actually, the Dems are the party of civil rights, but last I heard they left gay rights out of their 2008 platform, and they've often done little more than pay lip service to causes they promote heavily during elections. OTOH, the Republicans as a party have never supported gay rights, so it makes sense to look to the Dems to lead the way. but in reality the Dems won't get this done without the Republicans and Independents who also believe in gay rights, so it doesn't make sense not to look beyond party affiliation and reach out to anyone and everyone who's willing to support the cause.

[CGP]

YouTube - Gronstal blocks amendment to reverse Iowa marriage equality


Without the support of Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal, efforts to amend the Iowa Constitution can not move forward in the Senate.

Below is the text of Senator Gronstal's response to Senate Minority Leader Paul McKinley of Chariton on April 6, 2009, the first day the Senate met after the unanimous decision by the Iowa Supreme Court to allow same sex couples to marry.

Transcript:

One of my daughters was in the workplace one day, and her particular workplace at that moment in time, there were a whole bunch of conservative, older men. And those guys were talking about gay marriage. They were talking about discussions going on across the country.

Any my daughter Kate, after listening for about 20 minutes, said to them: You guys dont understand. Youve already lost. My generation doesnt care.

I think I learned something from my daughter that day, when she said that. And Ive talked with other people about it and thats what I see, Senator McKinley. I see a bunch of people that merely want to profess their love for each other, and want state law to recognize that.

Is that so wrong? I dont think thats so wrong. As a matter of fact, last Friday night, I hugged my wife. You know Ive been married for 37 years. I hugged my wife. I felt like our love was just a little more meaningful last Friday night because thousands of other Iowa citizens could hug each other and have the state recognize their love for each other.

No, Senator McKinley, I will not co-sponsor a leadership bill with you.