Death of My Husband & My Departure from this Forum

[jlynne]

My husband of 20 years passed away on March 22. I don't know how long it will take me to regain my interest in politics, if I ever do. For awhile, I've felt like the forum was moving too far left for me but I know with a certainty that I can't tolerate attacks on the Catholic Church, the right to bear arms, or purebred dogs right now. I am sorry to see the tolerance that once existed here being replaced with political certainty and polarization but I am not in a position to advocate civil discourse any more. I wish you all the very best but it is time for me to say goodbye.

[UKSocialist]

Sorry for your loss regarding your husband, however if discussion of gun control upsets you this deeply you probably don’t really belong on any political forum which isn't right wing.

[Horizon]

My husband of 20 years passed away on March 22. I don't know how long it will take me to regain my interest in politics, if I ever do. For awhile, I've felt like the forum was moving too far left for me but I know with a certainty that I can't tolerate attacks on the Catholic Church, the right to bear arms, or purebred dogs right now. I am sorry to see the tolerance that once existed here being replaced with political certainty and polarization but I am not in a position to advocate civil discourse any more. I wish you all the very best but it is time for me to say goodbye.

That is sad, so sorry to hear of your loss. You may never get over it, but you will, in time, get through it. I wish you well and Peace.@};-@};-

[Tim4Hillary]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

[Bubba Grizzly]

Sorry for your loss regarding your husband, however if discussion of gun control upsets you this deeply you probably don’t really belong on any political forum which isn't right wing.

And apparently you belong in another board.... Thought this was a "middle of the road" site. And your response couldn't be anymore CRASS coming from a Brit. When the day comes that you lose a loved one, I hope you think back to your comments here..... Not likely, Arrogant PUTZ.....

[smiledr]

I am sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you. You will be missed.

[UKSocialist]

And apparently you belong in another board.... Thought this was a "middle of the road" site. And your response couldn't be anymore CRASS coming from a Brit. When the day comes that you lose a loved one, I hope you think back to your comments here..... Not likely, Arrogant PUTZ.....

Yes a middle of the road site must be heavily pro gun otherwise she won't be able to read the forum :( :( :(
Are you seriously suggesting that a "middle of the road forum" not discuss gun control?

The Catholic Church has been involved in oppressive acts which deserve criticism, countries with relaxed gun laws have far more fatalities involving guns and the mass breading of dogs to fit people who are too good to be expected to take in that ratty disgusting homeless dog is repulsive, sorry this didn’t change because she lost her husband (which I genuinely offer real commiserations for)

When a loved one of mine dies I will mourn and it will hurt, however I seriously doubt that it will suddenly cause me to be unable to read opinions from people who have different view points from me.

Also what does my nationality have to do with this exactly? My comment was not insulting, yours was, you are the arrogant "putz".

[Horizon]

Yes a middle of the road site must be heavily pro gun otherwise she won't be able to read the forum :( :( :(
Are you seriously suggesting that a "middle of the road forum" not discuss gun control?
The Catholic Church has been involved in oppressive acts which deserve criticism, countries with relaxed gun laws have far more fatalities involving guns and the mass breading of dogs to fit people who are too good to be expected to take in that ratty disgusting homeless dog is repulsive, sorry this didn’t change because she lost her husband (which I genuinely offer real commiserations for)

When a loved one of mine dies I will mourn and it will hurt, however I seriously doubt that it will suddenly cause me to be unable to read opinions from people who have different view points from me.

Also what does my nationality have to do with this exactly? My comment was not insulting, yours was, you are the arrogant "putz".

So basically in summery, genuinely honestly sorry for your loss, however the forum isn't going to bend over backwards to accommodate stupid views due to a personal tragedy.

When you lose a loved one, you are RAW for quite sometime and little things that would normally not bother you, irritate the hell out of you. Cut her some slack! She was not posting for an argument, just stating why she is leaving.

For F**ks sake, she just lost the love of her life, and you had to be a rude ass to her! A simple "sorry for your loss" would have sufficed here!

[UKSocialist]

The issues mentioned have nothing to do with her husband.

By the way I didn't come for an argument either I was just stating how a middle of the road forum wasn't going to be completely pro gun.

[Ikasu]

So sorry for your loss jlynne. We've enjoyed having you while you were here.

[supra5677]

by the time you come back we'll be raising money for Hill's 2012 run!!

[Jester]

Good luck jlynne. Try not to retreat into yourself. Go ahead and pull back, but please don't withdraw. I get numb when a friend of a friend dies, but a parent/spouse/sibling/child is an entirely different world.

[UKSocialist]

I'm very sorry you guys are right. Clearly pernamently blocking out all opposing opinion on every issue you care about is the healthy response to a sorrowful event.

[Horizon]

I'm very sorry you guys are right. Clearly blocking out all opposing opinion on every issue you care about is the healthy response to a sorrowful event.

It happened to me last Spring when I lost my mom. I am totally getting where jlynne is coming from, and I cant blame her for feeling this way. She needs hugs and support right now.


((((jlynne))))

[UKSocialist]

Reminder I do offer honest commiserations and I genuinely do hope she moves on to have the happy life I'm sure her husband would have wanted her to have, I just don’t see where guns and puppies really come into play in this and why it is too distressing to read about them.

by the time you come back we'll be raising money for Hill's 2012 run!!

This rules, Supra you have won me over.

[Bubba Grizzly]

Yes a middle of the road site must be heavily pro gun otherwise she won't be able to read the forum :( :( :(
Are you seriously suggesting that a "middle of the road forum" not discuss gun control?
The Catholic Church has been involved in oppressive acts which deserve criticism, countries with relaxed gun laws have far more fatalities involving guns and the mass breading of dogs to fit people who are too good to be expected to take in that ratty disgusting homeless dog is repulsive, sorry this didn’t change because she lost her husband (which I genuinely offer real commiserations for)

When a loved one of mine dies I will mourn and it will hurt, however I seriously doubt that it will suddenly cause me to be unable to read opinions from people who have different view points from me.

Also what does my nationality have to do with this exactly? My comment was not insulting, yours was, you are the arrogant "putz".

So basically in summery, genuinely honestly sorry for your loss, however the forum isn't going to bend over backwards to accommodate stupid views due to a personal tragedy.

Where I come from(NOT england),we allow those that are mourning some slack. No matter how "stupid"(your words) their views may be, we allow them to rant...
Weather we agree with them or not, we do not berate them.

[Jester]

done

[UKSocialist]

UKLib, now you are coming off as a spoiled little kid. Any other thread I would just be irritated, but recognize your right to speak your mind in an open forum. This is different and now the thread is hijacked. I will personally not bring it up if you do us the favor of editing out your previous posts to only include the condolences so jlynne can have the dignity she needs right now. If you do that, I will edit all my posts chastising you for what started out as simply bad judgment but is now reprehensible.

You’re coming of as arrogant egotistical and self important as you seem to think people really care that much whether they have the shame of your disapproval. So sorry, no Jester I personally could not care less what about your posts about me and the arrogance of the idea you have the authority to tell people to edit their posts for the privilege of your approval is irritating.

[Jester]

done

[Kaylin]

jlynne, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your husband.

Kaylin

[Bubba Grizzly]

This has nothing to do with me j*ckass. It has to do with respecting somebody that is going through one of, if not the hardest time in her life right now. You are making this about you. If anything, I was not arrogant because I did not try to speak for others, but only spoke for myself.

I was hoping you let a competitive nature get the best of you and you were looking for a way to correct a moment of hostility, but it turns out you are rotten to the core.

Your name on this board, hopefully, will be sh*t now. I don't care about my name on this one because I know 1% of the hurt of jlynne is going through right now and I am just hoping she makes it through the worst of it with as little pain as possible.

It's called empathy. Have some respect for your fellow man, you so called bleeding heart liberal. You've been exposed as loving the cause more than the people of the cause.

hey, come on, let it rest..

[UKSocialist]

Edit- Deleted so this can end, if this has caused jlynne any distress I apologize, my original intention was certainly not to cause any.

[Jobu86]

Jlynne, so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how that feels, and wish you nothing but happiness for the future. Being apathetic towards politics is pretty understandable at this time.

And I'm pissed at how many people acted like complete jackasses in this thread; UKLib is far from the only one that did.

[tired]

I'm so very sorry for your loss jlynne, I can only imagine how alone you must feel. I hope time helps your understandly raw emotions heal, and that you are able to move forward with the things you are passionate about. {{{{hugs}}}}

[CGP]

My husband of 20 years passed away on March 22. I don't know how long it will take me to regain my interest in politics, if I ever do. For awhile, I've felt like the forum was moving too far left for me but I know with a certainty that I can't tolerate attacks on the Catholic Church, the right to bear arms, or purebred dogs right now. I am sorry to see the tolerance that once existed here being replaced with political certainty and polarization but I am not in a position to advocate civil discourse any more. I wish you all the very best but it is time for me to say goodbye.

First and foremost, I am sorry to hear of the loss of your husband. That is very sad and I know his passing will change your life forever. That more than anything else is the most important part of your post above. At this time you must take care of yourself.

But since you mentioned other issues in your post, and these have led to some heated discussion, I am going to respond to those as well...

I am not sure of the "tolerance" you are speaking of, but perhaps you are referring to the mono-view adopted by this forum in 2008 in its opposition to Obama. Clearly those mono-view days are over and the forum has been opened up to a wider group of participants in 2009, including those who support Obama. For the most part discourse in this forum in recent months has been very civilized - even during disagreements about political issues.

Just like many people here have no hesitation in slamming Obama, others should not feel obliged to hold back from criticizing the Catholic Church, gun rights & other such matters. If Obama is open to critique, so too is everyone else, including the Catholic Church. While you may take offense to people criticizing the Catholic Church (& other people/issues you support) others may take offense to the people/issues you make critical comments about.

But all of these matters about the forum aren't at all important when you lose a loved one so please don't spend a minute worrying/thinking about them & best wishes to you as you grieve the loss of your husband of 20 years. @};-

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