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Jester
04-13-2009, 12:45 AM
Somali pirates vow retaliation after captain freed
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=181

MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — Somali pirates on Monday vowed to retaliate for the deaths of three colleagues who were shot dead by U.S. Navy snipers hours before in a daring nighttime assault that freed a 53-year-old American captain.

The Navy Seals late Sunday rescued freighter Capt. Richard Phillips, who had been held by pirates on a lifeboat that drifted in the Indian Ocean for five days.

"Every country will be treated the way it treats us," said Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding a Greek ship anchored in the pirate den of Gaan, a central Somali town.

"In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," he told The Associated Press by telephone. "We will retaliate for the killings of our men."

He gave no details and it was not clear in what way the pirates could retaliate, though some fear they could take their revenge on the hundreds of other foreign nationals they hold on seized ships.

The rescue dealt a blow to pirates who regularly seize passing ships and hold them captive until multimillion dollar ransoms are paid. But it is unlikely to help quell the region's growing pirate threat, which has turned the Gulf of Aden and the waterways along Somalia's coast into some of the most dangerous shipping lanes on the planet.

Pirates currently hold more than a dozen foreign ships, most moored along the Horn of Africa nation's long coast, with about 230 foreign sailors from Russia to the Philippines.

The American rescue followed a similar operation Friday carried out by French navy commandos, who stormed a pirate-held sailboat, the Tanit, in a shootout at sea that killed two pirates and freed four French hostages. The French owner of the vessel was also killed in the assault.

Residents of the Somali town of Harardhere said tensions were growing there.

Abdullahi Haji Jama, who owns a clothing store in the town, said: "We fear that the pirates may retaliate against the foreign nationals they are holding."

But he also said people feared "any revenge taken by the pirates against foreign nationals could bring more attacks from the foreign navies, perhaps on our villages."

Vice Adm. Bill Gortney, commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, said the American operation "could escalate violence in this part of the world, no question about it."

Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old self-proclaimed pirate, told The Associated Press that the three pirates' deaths were "a painful experience." Speaking from the pirate hub, Eyl, he added: "this will be a good lesson for us."

"From now on, if we capture foreign ships and their respective countries try to attack us, we will kill them," Habeb said. "Now they became our number one enemy," he said of U.S. forces.

So far, at least, it has been rare for Somali pirates to harm captive foreign crews.

Several years ago, a crew member of a Taiwanese fishing boat hijacked for six months was killed by pirates, but no reason was given but it appeared to be an isolated incident, according to Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. No reason was given but it appeared to be an isolated incident, he said.

Somalia has been engulfed in fighting and anarchy since the 1991 overthrow of Siad Barre, and remains today a country with no effective government, a nation ruled by tribal clans.

The piracy scourge appears to have evolved partly out of an attempt by Somali fishermen to protect their waters against illegal foreign trawlers who were destroying their livelihoods. Some of the vigilantes morphed into pirates, lured by the large profits they could win in ransoms.

Somalia's prime minister welcomed the U.S. Navy's operation Sunday.

"The Somali government wanted the drama to end in a peaceful way, but anyone who is involved in this latest case had the choice to use violence or other means," Abdulkhadir Walayo, the prime minister's spokesman, told The Associated Press. "Anyway, we see it will be a good lesson for the pirates or anyone else involved in this dirty business."

Pirates were defiant though, vowing the events would not stop them form seizing more ships.

One pirate vowed the events would not stop them from targeting more ships.

"The mere killing of three and capturing one will not make us change our mind," said one pirate holding a German ship anchored in the Somali town of Harardhere who refused to give his name. "We are determined to continue our business regardless of the recent killings and arrests."

Muhumed reported from Nairobi, Kenya. Associated Press writers Michelle Faul, Tom Maliti and Todd Pitman in Kenya, and Salad Duhul and Mohamed Olad Hassan in Somalia also contributed to this report.


Let's just be glad Obama *inherited* the US Navy. The negotiations were a disaster.

Brooke
04-13-2009, 12:52 AM
I love how they said "We don't kill, we just want money" Really? Then why bother pointing an AK-47 to the back of the captain's head? A**holes. They won't do anything, they're scared shi*less of the US now.

Kbentleyis
04-13-2009, 01:15 AM
These are people that have nothing to lose. All they want is money? Now the USA is their #1 enemy? Who was #1 before us???? Screw them.

TheTaoOfBill
04-13-2009, 01:29 AM
oh no! The big bad pirates are going to get us!! :eek::eek:

Seriously... why should we be scared of a bunch of idiots with guns and no formal training who are too chicken shit to attack any ships that aren't defenseless.

Horizon
04-13-2009, 02:53 AM
Obama was all over this shit, whether you want to believe it or not! He TWICE gave the ok to use force.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30182256/

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama twice authorized the military to rescue a U.S. captain who was being held by Somali pirates and whose life appeared to be at risk, administration official said after Sunday's rescue.

The Defense Department twice asked Obama for permission to use military force to rescue Capt. Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast. Obama first gave permission around 8 p.m. Friday, and upgraded it at 9:20 a.m. Saturday. Officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations said the second order was to encompass more military personnel and equipment that arrived in the Indian Ocean to engage the pirates.

Somali pirates last week took the Maersk Alabama off the Horn of Africa. The crew fought back the pirates and reclaimed the ship, but Phillips was taken hostage aboard a lifeboat. Navy ships soon were on their way to the area.

Regular updates by phone and in person
White House officials on Sunday said Obama received regular updates by phone and in person at the White House — including 11 memos — and during his daily intelligence briefings with senior officials. The National Security Council last updated the president on a contingency plan for Phillips at 6:30 p.m. Saturday, according to a timeline of events released Sunday afternoon by the White House.

The president was in the residence Sunday when officials called him to alert him the five-day standoff was over, officials said.

Shortly after, the White House released a statement praising Phillips' behavior.

"I share the country's admiration for the bravery of Capt. Phillips and his selfless concern for his crew," Obama said. "His courage is a model for all Americans."

It was Obama's first public comment on the situation. Administration officials said the president made an effort not to call attention to the hostage situation while it was ongoing. Officials said they didn't want to send mixed signals to the pirates or do anything that might threaten Phillips' life.

Obama phoned Phillips and his family
An administration official also said Obama phoned Phillips and his family on Sunday.

In the same public statement, Obama said more must be done to prevent future attacks along the lawless African coast, where other ships remain under pirate control.

"We remain resolved to halt the rise of piracy in this region. To achieve that goal, we must continue to work with our partners to prevent future attacks, be prepared to interdict acts of piracy and ensure that those who commit acts of piracy are held accountable for their crimes," Obama said.

Maybe people would be more happy if he had PERSONALLY made the rescue, I don't know, but he deserves some credit for handling this well, IMHO.

CGP
04-13-2009, 03:42 AM
Obama was all over this shit, whether you want to believe it or not! He TWICE gave the ok to use force.


YouTube - Obama's Role in the Rescue Operation

Jester
04-13-2009, 03:49 AM
Obama was all over this shit, whether you want to believe it or not! He TWICE gave the ok to use force.


Great. It took him over 3 days to give a simple order. Good thing they had the four stooges as Pirates and a US crew and Navy to cover.

Two failed boarding attempts, running out of fuel, watching a failed escape by the captain (which is proof they didn't have shoot to kill at that time because that was a much better opportunity), failed negotiations for a simple exchange of lives. I'm sure all this would be overlooked with any other President.

Horizon
04-13-2009, 03:54 AM
Great. It took him over 3 days to give a simple order. Good thing they had the four stooges as Pirates and a US crew and Navy to cover.

Two failed boarding attempts, running out of fuel, watching a failed escape by the captain (whcih is proof they didn't have shoot to kill at that time because that was a much better opportunity, failed negotiations for a simple exchange of lives. I'm sure all this would be overlooked with any other President.
The facts are the facts, he acted in a responsible manner, gave the orders as necessary and the Captain is now safe. Credit is due to him, whether you like it or not. Obama is not personally responsible for failed attempts, or running out of fuel. Chew on the Navy ass for that.

This hardly compares to past failures of other Presidents.

Jester
04-13-2009, 03:59 AM
The facts are the facts, he acted in a responsible manner, gave the orders as necessary and the Captain is now safe. Credit is due to him, whether you like it or not. Obama is not personally responsible for failed attempts, or running out of fuel. Chew on the Navy ass for that.


:rotfl: So you are going to actually give all the blame to the Navy? Good luck with that one. Especially since all those items (except the negotiations) were the four stooges pirates mistakes.


This hardly compares to past failures of other Presidents.

What failures? It is all the navy's fault.

Horizon
04-13-2009, 04:14 AM
:rotfl: So you are going to actually give all the blame to the Navy? Good luck with that one. Especially since all those items (except the negotiations) were the four stooges pirates mistakes.



What failures? It is all the navy's fault.

You know, I get that you dislike me and my posts, that has been made glaringly obvious time and again, I also get that you like to argue for the sake of arguing. How amusing life must be for you.

Perhaps you missed my meaning AGAIN. The Navy was there, observing all that was going on NOT Obama, he was relying on THEM to feed HIM info, as every POTUS does in these situations. That the Navy watched the stupidity of these guys, is their problem, not Obamas. He did what was right every step of the way. Get over yourself, you're not the be all and end all of intelligence here.

hobbitt
04-13-2009, 06:07 AM
"We are determined to continue our business regardless of the recent killings and arrests."


~ anonymous Somali pirate

Nothing personal, people; it is just business.



similar quotes from...
~ Ken Lay
~ Bernie Madoff
~ Bernard Ebbers
~ Charles Keating
~ Richard Scrushy
~ Franklin Raines
~ David Axelrod
~ John Thain
~ Henry McKinnell
~ Hank Paulson
~ Roger Ailes
~ Wilbur Ross
~ executives at Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley; AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Tyco, Qwest,
Qualcomm, Sunwest, Dow Chemical, Arthur Anderson, oh hell -- the list goes on and on....

Pirates all.

Brooke
04-13-2009, 10:20 AM
These are people that have nothing to lose. All they want is money? Now the USA is their #1 enemy? Who was #1 before us???? Screw them.

The French?:rotfl:

foxyladi
04-13-2009, 10:54 AM
These are people that have nothing to lose. All they want is money? Now the USA is their #1 enemy? Who was #1 before us???? Screw them.

hillarystamp!

Brooke
04-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Well they've already started. Somali insurgants have fired at a plane with a US Congressman.