Who is the biggest threat to the U.S. - left or right wing extremists?

[Tim4Hillary]

The far right scares me much more than the left. After all - all there is on the left is a bunch of pansy socialists. Where we have the "soldier of fortune" characters on the right, the white supremacy racist groups; and lastly the churches and all their undue influence.

Discuss!

[Laura Cereta]

This one is hard. I think the far right is more dangerous within the borders and the far left is probably more dangerous outside the borders, but even that explanation doesn't really cover it. The far left could actually cause the country to implode and then be taken over. The far right however could oppress and imprison so much of the population as to change the very face of the country. The far right could cost lives over aggressive foreign policy and the far left could cost lives over weak foreign policy. This is too hard a question to answer!!

[supra5677]

The biggest threat to humanity is the Rothchilds bankers. Underneath them are George Soros, Malloch Brown and Felix Rohatyn. Ask ANY honest Senator from either party and they will tell you who is in charge.

The right and left ideologies were created in 1968 via think tanks like the Hoover institute. There are no parties its just the bankers who control the media, corporations, and policies. Hillary was going and is going to take on the bankers that's why I love her.

[Tim4Hillary]

The biggest threat to humanity is the Rothchilds bankers. Underneath them are George Soros, Malloch Brown and Felix Rohatyn. Ask ANY honest Senator from either party and they will tell you who is in charge.

The right and left ideologies were created in 1968 via think tanks like the Hoover institute. There are no parties its just the bankers who control the media, corporations, and policies. Hillary was going and is going to take on the bankers that's why I love her.

I think this if very interesting. Do you have any further info on this that we could read?

[Horizon]

I think this if very interesting. Do you have any further info on this that we could read?

There was much posted on this in the last year, try to do a search and see what you an dig up.

[supra5677]

Give me the specific topic... We'll start with the Powell Memo. I have thousands of pages..

[supra5677]

http://www.progressiveu.org/powell_memo

[Suzan]

Maybe we could start with the definition of left and right-wing extremists. I always thought the left wing extreme was communism, which ultimately is totalitarianism and suppression/oppression of individual rights. And I always thought right-wing extreme was Fascism, which, ultimately, is also totalitarianism and oppression of individual rights. But recently, on another thread of Tim's, left-wing extremism was defined as Fascism.

So, how are left and right-wing extremism different? And at the furthest extremes are they both Fascism?

[Jester]

The extreme right is anarchy.

[Jester]

So, how are left and right-wing extremism different? And at the furthest extremes are they both Fascism?

Fascism is left


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


If we are going to have the discussion, then let's at least make sure the terms are defined properly.

The far left is pure govt. control and the far right is pure individualism (no govt.).

With that said, I fear the extreme left by leaps and bounds. I'm not for anarchy though.

[agatha]

If we are going to have the discussion, then let's at least make sure the terms are defined properly.

The far left is pure govt. control and the far right is pure individualism (no govt.).

With that said, I fear the extreme left by leaps and bounds. I'm for from anarchy though.


Using those definitions I would completely agree that the far left is worse than the far right!!!

[mavfin]

I fear both. They are both equally bad for the country, in different ways. Letting either one loose to run the country unchecked would spell disaster, just the way in which it was a disaster would be different.

[supra5677]

Jester:

What do you call what's going on in Taiwan?

[Brooke]

The Right. They have guns. I rest my case.

[sojourner]

I fear both. They are both equally bad for the country, in different ways. Letting either one loose to run the country unchecked would spell disaster, just the way in which it was a disaster would be different.

True, but there are orders of magnitude more on the left than on the right.

[Speedy]

Depends who you are. If are either gay, black, hispanic, or any other minority, immigrant, catholic, or women, life would be hell for you under far right extremists. Just look at the far right groups like KKK and neo nazis and imagine living under their rule.

[sojourner]

Depends who you are. If are either gay, black, hispanic, or any other minority, immigrant, catholic, or women, life would be hell for you under far right extremists. Just look at the far right groups like KKK and neo nazis and imagine living under their rule.

I can't imagine it. They are not interested in ruling.

[Speedy]

I can't imagine it. They are not interested in ruling.

Oh of course they are but they can't. It's impossible for them right now because US has a two party system where they can at best only hope to hijack the party like the Evangelicals or neo-conservatives did but they cannot form their own.

But in multi parties systems around the world, far right parties like this are common. Like in England and France with the racist and white-only National Front and holocaust denying Front Nationale respectively

[Mangolynn]

Who is the biggest threat to the U.S. - left or right wing extremists?

There is no difference in my mind. It doesn't matter to me that Timothy McVeigh might have considered himself a Libertarian... he was an extremist, a terrorist and he murdered people. It doesn't matter to me that the hijackers on 9/11 were Muslims... they were extremists and terrorists and they murdered people. The left is a lot more than just "pansy socialists", as Tim4Hillary calls them. Their intent is to bring about the demise of the United States. Hitler ran a Socialist state and no one... no one.. was safe from his reign of terror.

I view all extremists with the same disdain.

[Jester]

All I have to say is DNC - RNC. Protesters at DNC Convention, very subdued. Protesters at RNC Convention, violent.

[Mangolynn]

All I have to say is DNC - RNC. Protesters at DNC Convention, very subdued. Protesters at RNC Convention, violent.

Again, from a Minnesota perspective, it appeared that the protesters at the RNC were of two varieties. One group was the Ron Paul supporters who were also holding a convention in Minneapolis but what APPEARED to be some very ugly signs held for media purposes were actually being held by people who had "infiltrated" the demonstration. They had nothing to do with Ron Paul or his group and in fact, belonged to the liberal fringe. The other group protesting at the RNC were pro-abortion groups and anti-war groups... again, both from the liberal fringes.

I still think anyone who fits into "extremist" is dangerous and it doesn't really matter to me if it's right or left... to me, they're all WRONG. It's your right to object and disagree... even to protest... it's just wrong to take that to a level where you're infringing on other people's rights. The anti-war protesters who show up at funerals of fallen soldiers are a prime example. They have a right to their opinions and freedom of speech, but they don't have the right to infringe on the private pain of families who have lost sons, daughters, husbands, wives and parents or to impinge the honor of the men and women who died while in service to this country.

[Jester]

Again, from a Minnesota perspective, it appeared that the protesters at the RNC were of two varieties. One group was the Ron Paul supporters who were also holding a convention in Minneapolis but what APPEARED to be some very ugly signs held for media purposes were actually being held by people who had "infiltrated" the demonstration. They had nothing to do with Ron Paul or his group and in fact, belonged to the liberal fringe. The other group protesting at the RNC were pro-abortion groups and anti-war groups... again, both from the liberal fringes.


Ron Paul is a liberal. Ask Classical Liberal here. I was talking about the actions of the far left (your liberals) as opposed to the far right (Ron Paul Libertarians).

And yes, the whole idea of an extremist is that they are abusing and misunderstand the very position they think they are supporting. As has already been said here, Nazis were on the left side of the political spectrum (possibly with the gamma rays). So if a neonazi thinks they are on the right side of the spectrum, that would be becuase neonazis are morons. Anybody want to argue otherwise?

Lets stop the Religious Left Fascists. I agree on that one.

[Tim4Hillary]

The Right. They have guns. I rest my case.

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